Fantasy Football Daily - 2024 College Fantasy Football Best Ball Strategy + Live Draft

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

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What? What? What you're shaking your head? You're welcome. Once again, time for the CFF All Access show. Eric Froton, Mike Bainbridge, and Josh Follier here. Thank you very much for coming back in. We're sorry about last week.

The travel-related snafus coming back from the Expo were just simply too much to overcome. We had to skip out. But you understand why. I mean, I'm sure everybody who's watching the show knows by now what happened at the Expo. A lot of action at the Expo, right? So myself and Josh were there ran a panel on college fantasy football, C2C, and college prop betting. That was a main stage experience there on Saturday.

That was a big show. We had the King's Classic Dress, which was before the panel, inside the actual NFL Hall of Fame. in the media room. Believe it or not, people are doing tours as they're going by and us degenerates are there with the fan tracks, you know, the draft board right there on the side. We're broadcasting live and all these people were just taking this tour of the NFL Hall of Fame are coming through. So that was really honestly, I mean, pretty fun experience. I mean, Josh, talk a little bit about the King's Classic. What did you think about that and just what you saw at the Expo? Yeah, I mean, pretty usual. I had the first pick in the draft. So that's just how those things go for me. So it was a great experience. I was actually chatting with.

We got, you know, real quick, we have this underdog best ball draft that we're doing tonight, the tailgate $3. So we are cranking that up. We are pick 10 here. Oh, geez. We're rolling. Just to give you guys a heads up. Yeah, it's already gone. But I thought it was a ton of fun.

I was actually on air with. John Lobb, like talking about the draft, and his lady, it's like 60-year-old lady comes up to me, starts talking to me while I'm like on air chatting with John. I think, I don't know if she thinks I'm like talking to her, she does, have my AirPods in, but it was, it was a mess. It was great. It was beautiful. Excuse me. Could you point me to where the Hall of Fame is, please, Josh? Sorry, there you go. That's my six-year-old lady impression. You like that one. I love it. Just be happy I'm not singing right now. This is awesome. Froton, you're in Vegas, right? No, I just got home from Vegas 15 minutes ago.

I was hopped on and went. I was in Vegas this past weekend for my friend Vaughn, my co-host over there at NBCA Sports, Von Dahlzel won the Circa NFL pickum contest. I'm excuse me, is the bowl pickum contest. So we were applied with a at Circa Stadium Swim. We had a cabana all day yesterday from, I guess, dawn until 11 p.m. and we were there until 11 p.m. With, you know, free drinks and booze plied. I'm not a drinker, as we all know.

However, there was food involved. So I was there. And obviously, you know, the attractions of being in the pool. So just got back and we're really excited to get into this. So we have the number 10. That's awesome, don't we? We're up. So, yeah.

Who do you want to go number one, Eric? We'll give you the pick. I can't really see. Oh, geez. I got to, no, don't give me the pick. Oh, we got 15. I just got off the plane. You take away.

Jay Don't Blue, DJ Giddens. Go to go to Jay. Blum. Wild. Okay. Nico? Nico? Okay.

Well, we'll give you the next pick. You already have enough Jadon Blue shares. Don't you, Josh. Josh is holding that camera heading in the season in the champion series best ball because he got all the gym. How many chairs do you have? Oh, geez. I mean, he's my most drafted.

I know. Him and Nick Singleton. So one of those was a good. pick. And now, now it's going to die and you're going to yeah.

That's what's going to happen because that's how these things work, it seems. Yeah. Uh,

what do you want to go here? You want to go running back Froton? We got, uh, we just,

oh, we just went me to go. Jaydon Blue's going to be there. Great, Josh. Come on.

Talk to us about Jade on Blue. Please educate the mess. You are the Jodon Blue guy in the CFF community. So can I say, can I say enough about

the fastest returning running back in college football. 22.5 miles per hour. You know. He's at Bentley? He's right there. I don't think Bentley's been on the field for a couple years.

Just kidding. You're right. What do you do? Real analytics caught him one time. Yeah. You know it. You got it. Yeah.

Good stuff. Yeah. What are your thoughts on that? I mean, obviously, I'm a Texas homer, so we can't go by any of my thoughts. But, I mean,

is Jade on Blue just in for a massive workload, considering they have, three healthy scholarship running backs or like what did y'all thoughts on the running back room at was there was there an article today and i asked you this josh because you look at texas stuff more than anybody in the country perhaps are they looking at transfers potentially i thought i saw that yeah who's out there eric henry uh the 247 and b writer for texas he talked about them looking at the transfer portal but he thinks that maybe they'll go into internal and have like a position switch of some sort, maybe do something where they move like a

Colin Page, kind of a, you know, a guy that's a hard worker just to get some filler. But he doesn't think they'll go transfer portal right away. Because like who's even out there in the transfer portal at this point that's left? Like I can't think of anybody. Yeah. I think whoever they pull out, I think it's just kind of a depth piece. Yeah. I think it's probably the blue Wisner.

and Gibson sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean, I do like, you know, Blue is now up to 207 pounds. So at least he's a little bit bigger. That's what Brooks played at last year during the season. You know, Bainbridge and I went, you know, we saw, what was it, for years that Sarkesian had a running back that was at least like 218 pounds. But he kind of bucked out a little bit last year with Brooks. And now he's going to have to with Blue. So it's a good pick. I got two good picks here and two bad picks. Otten Arnold. Yep. Okay. I mean, I get it. King and Edwards. Yikes.

Mike, will you defend Donovan Edwards for me, please? You're the making guy. Yeah. What is the case for Donovan Edwards? The case is he's in a better head space this year. He just injuries. Is that the case? Yes.

And so he looked much improved in the spring for whatever you can take out of a spring game. His vision did look a little bit improved. he's not running into blockers like he did in the national championship, albeit ended up in a 60-yard touchdown. But I think that sort of stuff. He's always got the physical attributes, right? It's just maybe some of the secondary stuff that comes with being a college football running back. I think he'll be improved at this year.

So, yeah, I mean, shoot, they're going to run the ball 65% of the time, right? With Alex Orgy, who's 80% probably going to win the job, I would say, at this point. So he'll just be, he'll be productive just based on how much they run the ball by itself. But you're a Mulling's guy too. I don't be like, Molly Lowe's job. It doesn't matter. I'm a Michigan guy. So I'll remember both. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. Damien still here at 3.10. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, we'll go to Damien. It's great deal. It's going to start falling now after the running back cliff. Yeah.

kind of sit tight and wait for that 9, 8, 9, 10 where we get our favorite guys who slip. Yeah. So who's next here, Frotan? Are we going, is Trey Wilson? I mean, he's kind of the top of our rankings, not top of AP necessarily. I've been a little, a little, you know. Trey Harris still there?

Oh, I'm still there. Trey Harris is still there. Bernard. He's gone. Oh, they go straight Harris. Yeah. I do like Bernard. Yeah.

I can't see him not going crazy in Bama. I'm fine with you or those two if they get back to us. We'll see you. Oh, yeah. Two picks. So one of them will. Do you have a preference on Iowa or Bernard? I feel like Iowa is safer.

I mean, well, he just weren't. So let's go Bernard. I mean, talk a little bit of why do you think Bernard is so safe? I mean, I'm with you on that. But what's your take on that? Do the increase in passing volume? I think that we're perceiving that Alabama receivers are going to still be getting the same 24 passes per game volume that they got last year under the, you know, almost Derek Henry-esque

throwback offense that Tommy Reese and Saban were running last year. I mean, that was eight, they threw the eighth fewest passes in the FBS on a per game basis. So you bring in Kelin DeBlor and, I mean, you're going to sit here and tell me that what we've seen from that, from Fresno State, from Washington, Washington, 238, 39, you know, let's say almost 39 passes a game. last year. I mean, sure. Fine. You don't want to go and throw 30. Let's not project him out for full metal year five Michael Pennick sort of a workload for Milro. But I think 30 to 32 is entirely like if not reasonable. I mean, you set an over under on 30 in terms of past attempts. I'm

going to go over. So that's how I feel about it. And if he's just that 30, six more game, ample opportunity for Bernard with Bonnard with Bonn being out. You hear a lot of what Ryan Williams, but he still is a true freshman who reclassified 17 years old on 10 pounds in the offseason. But I do think that I great spring game. Everything kind of adds up for Germany, Bernard being the guy. And, you know, I think it will be a situation where if down the board you want to sort of handcuff the room, if we have eight, nine, you know, depending on what our build is, you toss another, a law or a Ryan Williams who really hasn't been touched much. in this and you can kind of make sure it's like you're going to get a prolific offense you're going to get both of them

but um i think bernard's on the favor for one yeah that's good what is your take you know as you kind of read reports and stuff like that mike what is your take on on bernard you still think he's the surefire wide receiver one yeah i i i think so i mean i don't think you can depend on ryan williams being the wide receiver one at what 165 170 pounds whatever he's at right now He's built 175, so he put it on 10 pounds. Yeah. I just, I don't think you can depend on that, like, assuming the wide receiver one out of the gates.

And it's, you know, Kendrick Law was kind of getting that pub at the start of camp. But I feel like that's kind of quieted down since. And it's been a little bit more Ryan Williams since then. You made the freaks list, though. And it doesn't need to be said, but you're right. And we didn't see a lot do anything outside the manufacturer touches all last season. No, it was all game planned. So we don't know what.

that downfield billy looks like we're up up real quick what do you guys want to do ADP wise we got Carson Beck well Howard Jaden Higgins Colin Lacey Basil Tutton Ripon

what's the build again we got two I mean I'm thinking wait wide receiver maybe wide receiver again I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Tudin and we'll come back with Higgins sorry I got caught up in the

I thought you took Paul and Lacey for a second there my heart skipped a beat. I was like, what's you doing? Higgins got a strong 11-12, week 11-12. Yeah. A little wide receivers, if you do just the full wide receiver board. Because if we're going to take one, let's just get the full picture.

All right. We got Higgins, Williams, Owens. Malachi Fields. I think he's probably a little underrated at 75 compared to Higgins. I feel like Fields and Higgins are pretty close. Like, that's a 1580P difference. Yeah. Who's throwing them the football?

Yeah. Boy, Coheed and Caligrant. hope you know he's not going with calandria it's good no it's gonna be firing that musket did you see right missionary war one if i land two and might see i did read right before today that or right before we came on that they're gonna basically they're comfortable with going with both of them in like the first couple games of the year just figured out thank you just wild see there goes higgins job co higgins yeah i'm bainbridge why don't you talk a little bit about about Higgins. You took them today in our CFF Championship Series draft. What do you,

what are you liking about Higgins? Well, for one, I didn't have any shares up until our 12th and final champion. So I wanted to kind of round out my, my season long roster with that. But I mean, I like the target chair there, right? Daniel Jackson, one of their either wide receiver three, maybe four, he got injured. He's out for the year. And, you know, just kind of last year, you're bringing back the starting quarterback, Rocco Beck, I think what, 60, 50, 60% of that target chair is going to literally go to three players, right? Brommer, the tight end, Higgins and Noel. I think in this format, it's half point PPR, right?

Not full point. Yeah. Yeah. I think you favor Higgins by a long shot over someone like Jalen Noel here. So obviously you like the high target chair type teams, which Malachi Fields kind of fit that description too. Yeah, let me ask you guys this. Will Howard just went, his ADP's been 55 here, just went at the 69th pick.

Do you guys, like, now that we know that he's the starter, are you bumping him up as far as where you're taking them? Are you still fading them because it's Will Howard? And this format, I feel pretty good about him. Yeah. I feel like we always kind of knew he was going to be the starter. Yeah, that's where I can. I mean, let's be honest here. If Devin Brown can't beat out on a cord, he's going to beat out will happen.

No, he's not going to do that. And, you know, saying that is time. He needs time anyways. So it always kind of made sense. And I feel like it was kind of priced in. But he's got a very high floor. We're going to have five, you know, four or five QBs. You get four big ones.

It allowed you to be able to go and take some swings and have that extra running back or wide receiver. So, like, let's, I mean, let's be honest. you can have your opinion of him as a passer, but he's still technically a dual threat quarterback, right? And we want those in college fantasy. So, but yeah, I agree with you for a time. Like, my rankings didn't change because you're just overthinking it if you thought Will Howard was not going to be the starter.

Right. Yeah. This seventh round is working out beautifully for us. Josh doesn't get a chance to draft Jeremiah Smith. And Colin Lacey. Ironically, I have. have not drafted journalism and underdog best ball. So what do we want to do here?

We want to go quarterback, wide receiver. What's the quarterback options? I feel like we're getting no, yeah, okay. Do that. Connor Wegman, well, we got Miller Moss, Connor Wegman, Cameron Rising. What do we want? I love Cammer Rising guy and Connor Wegman.

I like both of them. Yeah, if you want to take Rising, that's fine. I want to talk about Cam Rising. There is no more biased fan base and beat writers in the country than Utah. First of all, I have a beef with them because they don't report on injuries, right? They're too busy schmoozing up their own team.

Right. The guy put a poll out, one of the beat writers said he put options of how many yards that Cam Rising was going to throw for, right? 4,000 was one of the last. Are you kidding? I don't do that at Utah. Did you tell, get somebody go and insert in the chat?

One of our subscribers is over under 2550. Yeah. I saw somebody respond to him. I'm like, yeah, no way this is happening. And he's the beat writer's like, well, why can't it happen? And everybody's calling the comments or, you know, an idiot because, you know, again, they're just biased over there. I have a- Well, go, no, okay. Thanks. I'm a cambrising guy. Yeah. Over 2550 in, right, right? Strike. That's a proton whiffle ball strike on 2550 cambrizing, 4,000. 4,000. That's amazing. No, I love that. We just took... We're at Sanger Time, right? Yeah.

We got breaking news while we're on here, but he's already been picked. John Mateer is QB1 for Washington State. There we got. No shocker to anybody. No. Ben draft. Yeah, we'll see how long he keeps that job. Well, that's just...

Okay, so everybody's focus has been on that quarterback situation. And yeah, I like Ben Arbuckle, but, like could they both just stink and we've been focusing on this whole situation for absolutely no reason no because they're playing the mountain west I think some of those teams are going to be better than a half the teams are better than Washington's much they did the same that didn't turn over yeah the Oregon state fine Washington state they kept the whole staff they didn't turn over much it's the same team that's all I will say it's like it feels like you know a little down the mountain west we read like every practice like

There's several of us now that read every practice report. And it's like two to three picks for each player. Every practice like nine of 19. It's like these aren't the numbers that you want coming out of like a offense. That's pretty easy to, you know, have a high completion percentage in. Yeah. Now they're talking about the third guy, some potter guy. I don't even know.

Yeah. Someone's going to get numbers. It's just it's going to happen. Right. Promise. Yeah. The issue is if they both are mediocre and then they start doing a two-quarter. back system, right? In game, then it could...

Yeah, you start doing the dueling banjos routine and everybody loses. That's the ones who didn't pick those guys. Well, hey, let's... Even in seasonal, you can just... Bye-bye. Yeah. We got our pick coming up here and like five picks. I think we have...

Two QBs, three running backs, three wide receivers. We want to go back to Caleb Jackson if he's available. How many... What is our build right now? I don't even know what we have. We got two QBs. Three running backs and three wide receivers. Oh, nice and balanced.

Yeah. So we have lots of flexibility. I like Caleb Jackson, of course. I mean, I'm always down for Caleb. That's pretty easy. Pretty easy. I want to see what else we got. Shuck has the beautiful schedule in terms of buy weeks.

You want to go QB3 here in the ninth round? These guys dry up super cool. All right, ECR, bro. I'm good with that. I'm going to throw in an application. They'd love to have you. That's awesome. Um, vegan's back there.

No, no, he's not. Montrell Johnson, uh, looks like he's going to be cleared for week one. Um, trending in that direction, which is good. Caleb Jackson, yeah, we just went him. Look, we got two of Proton's favorites the last two. I was drafting four Froton here. I got Nick Anderson in the eighth and then Caleb Jackson in the ninth. You want to talk about both of your boys a little bit, Froton?

Yeah, I suppose that is forced by me. Uh, yeah, we'll like us to start with Nick. Mike Anderson. Dionne Burks, a lot of pub, had a great spring game, very fast, led the nation in drops last year. He already had a couple over in camp. Guess what the fastest way to get you jettison down the depth chart is, oh, it's running really fast and then dropping the ball. Dionne Berks, very good at that. That's something like you didn't hear that refrain about Dionne Burks all offseason. It was all gas, no breaks from Mr. Dionne Berks. So the counterpoint is Nick Anderson, which, let's not forget, he was the starting X last year at 10 touchdown

receptions, and now we're on the clock. Yeah, what do you guys? I mean, wide receiver, QB. I don't really see any QBs I like. We got like Wells. You want to go Wells? He's in a black jersey, aka not practicing. Yeah. All right. We're going to go Brazil. Then that's been your boy. You have been a Brazil guy. Fair McNeico. Yeah, there we go. Pared him with Nico. Yeah. I think Brazil, I mean, the thing I like about Brazil is he's so tall, and he can hit those deep routes really well that they love to do that offense. But also, man, he's a guy that can get some red zone targets and seems to have enough flexibility to, like, really be able to run some good routes around the goal line.

And so I think I like that high floor, high ceiling potential of Brazil. We'll see what happens in the Brew McCoy, obviously. But, you know, McCoy is like Halani or Baxter. I mean, there's these players that just get injured every year. get knicked up. And so it's like, McCoy, McCoy is going to eventually get nicked up. And I think Brazil would be the top outside wide receiver there.

And then with, I think we finish up with Caleb Jackson, but yeah, with Caleb Jackson, go ahead. Comes into 240. He's running, like, the wind out there. Obviously, if you watching his tape, in the time that he got to spend on

the field, he was electric for that spell. I feel like you see the acceleration and it's there for his side. I feel like it's not something you see all the time. So having that rare acceleration and size, and just hearing all this great stuff out of camp, I feel like Josh Williams is just nominal in terms of his RV-1s-A status.

It is a clear, all right, he was there, and he's been there forever, and that's how it is. But you can't in the ninth round look past that guy, like the talent level of Caleb Jackson. Don't put Roman Hemby in the queue, please. You're good, man. You're good. We got enough running backs right.

You don't like that completely rebuilt offensive line with 21 starts returning for Maryland losing Delmar Glades at left tackle? Yeah. Rubble on the line. Do we want to go tight in here? We got Jolly, Haas, Mason Taylor. I'm thinking Hoover. Okay. We only have two quarterbacks.

Yeah, I'm good with Hoover for sure. Oh, you'll get to? Definitely. Yeah. He's been the QB deal of this whole pretty much underdog season. Just unproreciated. He runs a little. He's opportunistic. We could grab him here and then grab maybe Sorsby and a round or two as well.

Round out of QBs there. Oh, there he is. Uber, ready to go. Oh, yeah. Nico, rising Hoover for reasonable investments. Well, we did take Nico. What are you guys doing at Savian Williams right now? now.

Waited until the later happens. Yeah. They spread it around so much last year. And I mean, what? It's essentially the same group, right? Yeah. Minus one or two pieces with Eric McAllister coming in. So probably spread it around again.

But he's, I think, at this point, it's probably established, right? Savianne Williams, wide receiver one. I think so. I mean, I'm drafted something like that. Yeah, I've drafted him like that. I think that's fair. but we do have a question here about Jeremiah Hunter. I did want to mention that, that at the King's Classic, our boy Purple Rain, G.O.R. Peso, I think I said it correctly, attended the event.

And he is a Washington booster alum. He has dyed in the wool Washington Huskies. and his opinion on that, you know, I always like to get that local spin on anything that we can get opinions on. His opinion was he thinks that Hunter and Boston will kind of cannibalize each other a little bit in terms of taking some of the outside receiving share. And he thinks Jail Jackson will be a little more stable out of that slot role since he's been there a long time, has that standing on the team, and that he will get steady work at the slut role,

but that, you know, not that he'll necessarily be a big fancy weapon, but that he's kind of apprehensive about how the work is distributed between Hunter and Boston. So that gives me a little bit of pause in terms of looking at the two of them, specifically Boston since I think he's going noticeably higher. What have you seen between the two of them? They both just went fairly recently in this draft.

right here goes hunter oh wait Hunter hasn't gone yet has he i don't think so i thought my apologies i saw who were in let me see hunter i know Boston's off okay so Hunter's still there no i think Hunter did go he went

yeah so yeah now that's interesting about Josh Jackson you have any thoughts on that Bainbridge I mean Boston I think got to a point where it's just like I'm gonna back off just a little bit because obviously my Hunter's still there, right?

And just, I mean, what, how many, you know, how many touchdown passes are they realistically going to throw this year for Washington? I mean, Boston or, or Hunter, you know, what, you know, we think Boston, but they can get 100 targets, but what, you know, three, four touchdowns out of that, like, you know, it got to a point where it's like, you got to go invest in dental Boston in the seventh round, like, that's just too steep for me. Yeah. And seventh round, I think most of the time, are we talking to Underdog or that's even in full FBS?

Because when did he go in this draft? Actually, did he go to seven-th round. Yeah, I think he did. Let me check real quick. Get you and your crew to the big shows with Go Transit. Go connects to all the main concert venues like TD Coliseum in Hamilton and Scotia Bank Arena in Toronto. And Go makes it affordable with special e-ticket fairs. A one-day weekend pass offers unlimited travel across the network on any weekend day.

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Oh, not okay. Oh, that's pretty good for us. Acquisition. And then Hunter went 10th. So they're kind of going bang, bang, within reason. Yeah. That's good.

And he's around Singleton, Branch, Boston. That's a pretty good area for him to be in, honestly. Yeah. Have upside, but there's flaws to each of them. This is a little fatal kink. All right. We are on the clock. Do we want to go Swordsby here, finish out QB, about four QBs at that point?

Do you want to go this quick? Yeah, I don't know about that. What's running back looking like? We got, let's see. Roydell Williams Oh, that's my ADP LJ Martin Cetrick Urban

LJ Martin's healthy All right We'll go We'll go LJ So And too With Martin, right? Oh

I tested my memory there I forget What's what I apologize Somebody's gonna Call me out I forget which one Somebody else

Oh Swords we just went That's fine We got We got the perfect Late sleepers At the back end Nah it's all good

Yeah I'm not, Sorzeby was for you guys. I'm not a big Sorosby guy personally. So I just didn't know if you guys wanted to get him. Well, his passing yardage, I suppose, it's kind of capped. But I'm a little leery of projecting Emery Jones's passing acumen on Sorbsby, where I feel like he's a better system QB. So I feel like he'll probably be in that 26, 2,000 range.

Like high twos. I look at we got him in two even when he came out, Mike, on DeVette Rivers. Yep. I think he's still sitting out. He's still sitting out there at 22, 2300, I believe. Yeah, like, I feel like if he just starts every game, there's no, there's no way he doesn't clear that. It's impossible.

All right. We, where do we want to go as far as, I'm going to, we're going to get caught here. I'm just going to go Mitchell Evans at 162. You know, I love Mitchell Evans. first of all. So don't you ever apologize for Mitchell Evans. Any updates on him through camp?

I haven't really been paying him. Fully. He's out there, baby. He's out there. My guy. That's awesome. All right. Where do you guys want to go next?

We will be drafted in kind of the 180 range. You know, I'm just putting random guys in the queue here. Chris Hilton went. That's disappointing. Yeah. So went 163. I can pull up wide receiver. I think we're at.

We are at four wide. receivers, five running backs, three QBs. So wide receiver wise, Eric McAllister's obviously there. We don't probably not going to take him. You know, Noah Thomas, Chris Tyree, Andrew Armstrong. What about Tyree?

Where do we come with Kyrie at this point? Have you come back around on him at all, Bainbridge? Tyree? No. I'm firm in my stance. Jacori Brooks is still. Yeah. Brooks.

Looking like Hudson, H.U.T.S.O.N. He looks like he could be taking a starting spot. Outside. Outside. Outside. It's an outside spot. What about Silas Bold? He's been sexy.

You know, it's interesting. If I get him less, we can get him weight late. He's not even anywhere through. His ADP's 230. Just cue him. Interesting about Bolden, too, or just in general with UT. They just did like a top 22, like best players for 247 with UT. And Bolden, Golden, and Bond made the list.

Bolden was above Bond, who I think Bond was like maybe eight or seven. And then Bolden was number seven, I believe. And I just found that to be super interesting. I mean, based on reports, I'm still seeing that Cook more and Bond will be the starters. But to have Bolden as your top wide receiver. and that list was pretty interesting. I mean, obviously we know he's dynamic. Did you say that the list had golden and bolden

ahead of Cook and More, but you're saying that Cook and More are still projected starters? Yes, and the guy that wrote the top 22 players is the same guy that wrote a Q&A today that said that Cook and More were going to be starters. So I don't know what the heck. all of that means. It kind of makes sense because when you said that, aren't Bolden and Golden, aren't they both slot receivers, right?

Golden's on the outside, but Bolden and more, well, Moore went inside. Maybe, maybe Golden is inside now. I know Moore has been playing on the outside a little bit. I don't know if they're just cross-strain. They, they switch those guys around so much. Do we want to go, looks like Brooks just went. I want to go Bolden here, like Shapen's around ADP. Um, yeah, run bolden. Yeah, let's do it. I'm intrigued by him. I think he's a type in this format, right?

Where he could have some massive hit games. Yep. I mean, his, his name's been all over camp. He did, and he did play some outside, believe it or not, Oregon State. They moved him everywhere. It's just, you had DJ you throwing him, and it was a run-based offense. Yeah. With a giant offensive line, too.

They had Fuwaga there. He's number 10. pick they're the jets and he's like three and six pounds in the right side. They're just mauling people with Damien Martinez. Is there a QB that you guys like here? Who do you guys want to go? We got three picks. So we're out.

Who? I was being sarcastic. Throw Orgy in the queue though. Okay. He's got a week 12 by, I think, and Hoover does too. But like I said, Orgy's likely going to win that starting job at this point. Yeah. Yeah.

you might as well. That's Jalen Milrow Light, so. Okay. Well, let's go, we'll go origin here because we're not going to get them if we wait. Sure. Yeah. I think there's people. We only got four more rounds.

So, yeah. Last year, let's get them out. Do we, yeah, we got right now quick update on us. We got four QBs. My bad. Four QBs, five running backs, five wide receivers, and two tight ends. So just, that's where we're at. Go ahead.

Shane. Shane was asking about the, wide receiver and McBride's spot they just released their depth chart today and we had the two insides are what we expected you know obviously Ashlock and Nishigaya Nighi Shaya I don't know how it goes the uh but then on the outside I'm not mistaken maybe you guys can pull it up it's Perry Alex Perry and Harry was the unexpected one and then I to be honest they might opinion the unexpected one's pinocke you think jona jona pinoleck Alex Perry was running with the starters last year so I didn't feel like that's much of a surprise pinocke's just well

oft-injured you know 27 year old that needs to find a job of a big game for you's in there yeah we've seen pinocke that's fair enough but there it is those are two outside the inside seems to be more preferable and I mean let's be honest like yeah Stephen McBride wasn't on the depth chart, but that doesn't mean he's not going to be available week one week to what happened. That can mean he's suspended for week one. Yeah, he'll show up on the depth chart. You know, stay. See, yeah.

Yeah. That's pretty reasonable. Um, what do you guys want to do here? We got, I'm throwing some running back some wide receivers in the queue. There's so many good wide receivers. The later you get, there's always wide outs. Right. Guys, I've been, I've been liking late.

I'm, I don't think, yeah, we're pretty. What did you say? I like Noah Thomas. I like Samuel Brown's a good shot at Miami, even though I do like Kobe George. But who am I to say? I don't know. That's a classic power three situation. Any of those three guys could pop.

And they've been featuring Sam Brown a lot in scrimmages. I mean, he had massive scrimmage one, but it could have been because he's a new wide receiver there. We'll go Sam Brown there. I mean, that's prolific passing offense that we can take a big high-baric value shot. what, 17? End of 17? Yeah. I feel like we're priced in with that.

That's a good pick. We do need a quarterback that does not have a week 12 buy here. Ouch. Because then we're relying on just Nico and rising. Yeah, good call. I hope our tight end buys are in line because we're going to be in trouble with five QBs. We can't go three here. We got.

Oh, we're up here. We'll look at that in a minute. do we want to go Vandergriff is here he's got a pretty easy Hudson card it's got three and nine yeah Hudson card

Yep Good good Good high floor guy runs a little K is a big Hudson card guy So what we're in? Come on Yeah

What do you love to Che? All right Let me ask you guys You know I was on a show with JD Yonkey And he was talking about Stribbling

As a guy starting outside receiver for Oklahoma State. He got, I think, I can't even remember how many targets right now. Top of me head, maybe 20, 21 targets in the first three games last year. See a guy that you guys are interested in late at all in drafts or just kind of fading him completely. Yeah, wait.

Yeah, I would say very late. I mean, like, you're, to me, you're, you're depending on an injury there, right? I think you need Rashad Owens or Brennan Presley to get injured. for him to have real value. That's just my opinion, right? I don't think you're throwing for $4,000 plus maybe with Alan Bowman. Right. So, yeah, that's just my opinion.

I think it's a good dark throw late, right? You get an injury, and then it's the top two are going to have the huge target chair because they're not really throwing, they're not at all throwing to the tight end, right? So only the wide receivers are really getting targets in that system. A lot of things in his favor there and a lot of metrics boxes they check when I'm looking for sleeper wide receivers. One, like you mentioned, previous target usage to Oklahoma State. We already know what we're getting is continuity in the passing game. You have a senior quarterback, ultra senior, mega senior quarterback and Alan Bowman.

And their pass rates, very, very slanted. And traditionally has been always been that way for Gundy. sixth highest passing rate on passing downs, standard downs, 25th highest passing rate, 36th an adjusted pace. And then when it comes to those you guys, when it comes to stripling, another very important factor that I control out for, 45% of their completions last year, Oklahoma State, went to outside receivers. That was the 18th most in the country.

So with all that distribution going there, with that focus on the outside, like it, it, makes sense from a power three landscape to take shots on somebody there because hey, who says, do we know it's going to be stribling our owns? We really don't. If he takes that spot, he's going to be, he's going to eat. You know, it's funny because I know exactly why JD was

selecting or touting, stribling two. I remember from DFS article write-ups last year, right? Remember Leon Johnson? He was that third wide receiver, or he was opposite Owens, like that target share between those three, nobody else was catching passes from Oklahoma State, not, not anybody. So makes sense with stribling.

Yeah, for sure. I just, I just took Noah Rogers there, my own little Homer pick there. There you go. I like him as a guy that, I mean, the beat riders there at North Carolina State have said that he's potentially the most talented guy in that offense. Now, obviously Casey Concepcion has got something, something. to say about that, but we've seen that Tavian Wicks do well in this system. Last round, do we want to go running back or?

We only got to flyer. Yeah, we're running back. Yep. Do we go Robinson, Roderick? I have a pick if nobody's out. Go ahead. Go do it. Yeah, Claiborne.

Okay, let's do it. He's up there. Yep. I know. In terms all those guys, we see he's the one who's going to get the work. I know. They'll be better than last year. They suck, and they were so bad.

The entire offense collapsed last season. It won't happen again. No, we know the system here. Running back one averages 7, 800 yards per season, right? But you literally read every single report coming out of Wake Forest. Obviously, they're focused on the quarterback competition for the wrong reasons, right? But every single report is saying, Demand Claiborne is the guy, right? The guy in that backfield.

And let's be honest, yeah, we talk about system. but they had a one-off with Kenneth Walker and not saying that Claiborne is Kenneth Walker, but like, you know, sometimes the system isn't always, you know, come to fruition, as you could say, right? Yeah, and I mean, I'm a guy that's been really big on Clayburn. Last year, he was my 40th ranked running back in Debbie. And so he's a guy that I've really liked.

The thing he's a good runner. I mean, past protection's a little not great. But, I mean, if they give him the rock, he's a talented runner. So I think that's all you can ask for is a guy. He can hit home runs too, like crazy. Give to Mon Claiborne the Rock or ask Hank Bachmeier to throw it 30 times. Which one do you choose? Yeah.

You know which one I met, Michael, don't. I have never been more angry than yesterday. Looking for Hank Bachmire's season long under, and it's poop gone. Of course, he's Hank Bachmire. A season long on Hank Bachmire. You know better than that. That's awesome. The thing is about Wake Forest we're talking about.

They scored 36, two years ago, 41 the year before that, 36 the year before that. Last year, they scored 20 a game. Okay, come on. Eight returning starters. I just can't see that happening again. Schedule isn't great, though. Yeah. How soon until Hiklinsky goes and takes that job?

That's the only, that's my only, how soon until the Bachmire experiment is? Man, they're not even mentioning him. It's literally Bachmire and Michael Kern. Really? Yeah. Hence, Playboard, right? Yeah. Jeremy's just so small.

I mean, he got, he got broken in that arm, you know, the All-American game for high schoolers. Yeah. Hey, there's a quick, Shane had another question here. He asked, who do you all like between Great House and Mitchell? Do you guys have an opinion on? Jane and Greathouse and Chris Mitchell at Notre Dame? I'd rather Mitchell. I feel like he has a better outside profile.

And if I'm going to have, do you really want the Notre Dame slot receiver? It's a prolific passing offense or anything. Even with Dan Brock back, I get it. But, you know, this is still a defensive coach's system with, what's his name? He got his name. It alludes me right now. Marcus Freeman? Marcus Freeman, with a defensive head coach.

So I don't think he'll get the same sort of, you know, just sort of gloves off that you got at LSU last year because they couldn't play any deed. But I think he has the better profile for an outside receiver. And Great House just straight. He really did play a lot of slot last year. So I still don't want the slot. Yeah, especially if Mitchell Evans is healthy, right? You got two guys running in the middle of the field.

So, and I guess every highlight you see from that Notre Dame Twitter feed is essentially Chris Mitchell catching long bombs. Yeah. I mean, Chris Mitchell, what did they say? Like, he's like their Will Fuller or like that's what they want him to be. They think he could be the closest thing to that, which, you know, he was something like James Thomas to be that too. Hopefully he is. They have never had, even after Bullock, they still have Kevin Austin who was effective. But they haven't since Kevin Austin a few years.

That's, that's been a wrap. Hopefully that. Yeah. I would say Mitchell. Where does Mitchell going? What's his ADP? Has he gone yet? I mean, yeah.

I don't even go in our draft is what I mean. I didn't see him go. I'm sure he did. Yeah, he's going pretty late though. I mean, he's a good. I can get pretty late in draft. Same with Jane Greathouse, right? Like, they're guys that can get at the end of draft.

Yeah, I like, I think Mitchell has such high upside that, and that's what you want in those late round picks. Let's do a roster review here. Yeah. So we got five QB, six running back, seven wide receivers, two tight ends. We went Nico with our first. first pick came back with Cameron rising we kind of punted QB a little bit after that then Cameron rising Josh Hoover Alex Orgy and then Hudson Card to shore up our week 12 QB situation and then we got at running back jadon blue Damien Martinez basil Tutton Caleb Jackson LJ Martin de Monclay

I like that room a lot I think we did pretty good that's pretty good room yeah we will the LJ Martin thing is just people haven't caught up to the news reports that's it yeah just a matter of trade and superior information. Yeah. And then Jeremy and Bernard, we got in round three and then are now round four, actually, Jaden Higgins, Nick Anderson,

Chris Brazel, Silas Bolden, Samuel Brown, and Noah Rogers. Very talented high upside room there. And then Luke Hawley. I thought we did pretty good on the back end, those wide ones. Yeah. Rogers, Brown, Bolden.

I mean, yeah. It really just does further serve to let you know. 178, 202, 26. Three guys that could be pretty darn good. and there isn't a discernible difference, I'd say, between them and, you know, some of the guys that were picked in the round 11-12. Yeah, I totally agree with that. I think, I think, you know, I think at the end of drafts, getting this high-upside wide receivers.

I think, and that's where the value is to me is in these wide receivers late. The Jacori Brooks, I think he went 195, so just a few picks before Brown. There's this guy really late that could boom in this type of format. Nick Anderson's a guy, you know, you've been super high in them, Proton. Our guy, Brett Woodfield at fantasy points. He's like, man, this guy's future first round pick. Brett does a lot of NFL draft work, very talented, knows his stuff. Yeah, Brandon Lejeune from the Debbie Dashboard with a podcast.

He's on YouTube. Excellent YouTube channel does it with my friend Jason Deerian. Anzo, those guys are big on him as well. They're big Nick Anderson guys. And I am, well, I feel like, you know, we're the Nick Anderson guys in this, in this world. So we got to stick together. But I do. I do think he fits an outside X profile that he could do that in the NFL, at least be a wide receiver too.

Maybe he doesn't have that dominant, you know, wide receiver one NFL profile. I do think there's a world where his ability to work sideline, his clean brakes. He's a good route runner. Yeah. I think that shows up a little bit this year. And while Berks does have the big jets, I don't know if he's as complete as Anderson is. But we'll find out.

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Like leftovers at midnight, Our Black Friday offers won't last. Shop now at IKEA.ca.ca slash Black Friday. IKEA, bring home to life. Yeah, I do like to that we attacked outside wide receivers quite a bit in a half-p-R format where, you know, it's just going to matter more to get those touchdowns, you know. And I think all of these guys kind of fit that profile,

except Silas Bolden, but he's a guy, another guy could get you four catches for 125 yards and two touchdowns in a few weeks, right? he's not going to probably do that regularly, but you could totally see him do that. Mike, thoughts on our roster overall? Yeah, we got to make sure those tight. Actually, I should have been looking at that while we.

Oh, they were good. I looked. Okay, cool. Yeah, I don't know. I love actually our tight ends, but I usually am punting a little bit longer with the tight ends in this format just because, like, I've gotten Cole Taylor,

who I've got as the top 20 tight end. Like in the 19th or 20th round, Like that's an absolute steal. Plus, he's got good bye weeks too. So like I've been going later than this, but like, Luke Ha's healthy is top five tight end in the country. And then obviously like there's tons of videos out there with Mitchell Evans. Just the beat writers are chatting about him that he is looking fully healthy at this point,

which again can end up as a top five tight end. So I typically punt a little further than we did. But I mean, we got two top tier tight ends there. that was the casualty of three of us drafting together in my freak out moment like oh shoot if we don't drive somebody we're getting uh you know 45 that o'clock that's how it goes 30 second point 30 second clock excuse me that thing is quick dude pro time when we first drafted on here together I was just like that first time my head was spinning I don't know 30 second clock I'm not used to that And by weeks and 20 rounds.

That's great. Yeah. That's what we do with boys. This is good, man. Any, you know, I was kind of wrapping up here. We got a few minutes left. You guys have any kind of camp news that's kind of stuck out to you guys? I mean, obviously, we broke the material news live here on air.

Danny O'Neill, baby. Daniel. I want to talk about this real quick. I got a bonus pick with ProDone. Here we go. Uh-oh. And you know what? I'm going to recall.

our first ever show, okay, this is payback. You called me out for taking Isaiah and Jacobs over Lee Beebe, and now that is a full... What does that have to do with Daniel O'Neill? Because, no, you gave me crap for that. And now I'm going to return the favor. I'll put it out there. I love this man more than anything. Eric Fro-Ton.

You have zero shares of Danny O'Neill. Yeah. What am I supposed to do? Oh, in the best falls? In Dynasty. So? You're doubting that you foresaw this happening. You wouldn't.

Okay. How many times do I have to go on the show and tell you this is about to happen that AJ Defi was not going to win the job? Did that happen, Mike? Did that happen? Because I'm imparting my wisdom on our viewers and they are taking it. They're using it against me smartly because our viewers are very sharp. Sharpest viewers in the country.

Then I'm being penalized for that. Why? I told you it was going to. going to happen? I'm, Froster Domas has spoken once again. Do you want to take a look at the G5 draft? I took Daniel O'Neill. You, no, you did not. You took A.J. Tuffy. I thought I didn't take Daniel O'Neill with him. No, I think justice took him. Oh, God, Justice. That was my plan. I was like, all right, I'll just, I'll just take the steam out of that. I'll get them both. You did, look, I think you, you did call that that was potentially going to happen. And I think

potentially I said it was going to happen. And you multiple times. I'm very interested. More than anyone else I know I've seen in the CFB sphere adjacent thing. I'm very interested to see how the San Diego state offense does this year because I know for a fact that Eric Proton said that that is not going to be a good offense or not at least up to the standard that we expect. They're not putting up 35 a game.

But yeah, they were brutal last year. They'll put up mid-20s. which is really good. They were horrible last season. You know, like they'll put up 27 a game. And then the year after, they'll be really, really good. You know what, fellas, I needed a good laugh tonight. It's been a long day.

Well, we were talking about camp news. You wanted to talk about camp news. I mentioned the G5 draft where Eric drafted A.J. Duffy. The other quarterback that he drafted in that, Matthew Sluka. Not looking, and not looking great that he's going. going to win that QB1 job, at least from the onset of the season. So, I mean, my defense, I timed out during that. I'm pretty sure that was the draft.

That was the 4th of July. I was on, I was a, that was during the fireworks display in San Diego Mission Bay. So that's why that one happened. I will eat AJ Duffy, but I, yeah, fun. Did we, do we draft, do we draft Washington State with that, uh, Were they G5 with us in that one? G5. Is that the one I got Mitzier?

But then I also pulled off the brilliant Malachi Nelson pick, I think, in the third round. We've all had one of Malachi. Thanks, all right. What are we going to do? He was a great deal in like the early 20s for a long time. Yeah. I think in that draft, I think I got Giovanni McCoy, who's not going to win the job at Oregon State. I got Dexter Williams, who's probably going to be the quarter of,

back three at Georgia Southern. I got Zeviette House, who is now the backup. There's somebody else. Welcome. Welcome, welcome my G5 only pain. Geez. Max Brown, QB1, Charlotte. Yeah, he's looking good.

Finally, that's a hot commodity in the G5 league. Yeah, gosh. Luke and Justice are going to kill us. There's two dialed in on that stuff. Yeah, those dudes are insane. The amount of nuggets that we got from Luke over. the Expo weekend was just crazy. Oh, yeah, he's just dropping, dropping dimes.

Luke also a giant human. He's like six, seven. Yeah, former offense to tackle, like former D3 pitcher. Like, dude, I wouldn't want to be that Luke Probastco fair. Yeah. Dude, Luke was a highlight of the trip, man. That kid, he was. Sweetheart of a guy at 6,7, obviously.

Luke's great. And was great on the panel, too. Yeah. Grand of the pound. He did a great job. Any other news that you guys found over the weekend? Yeah, I had 100% width rate in Canton at the Expo. I said this past weekend.

It means nobody, it means 100% width rate, not strikeout rate, with rate. That means nobody touched a ball when I went live. That's what it was. Any other camp news you want to give us, like? Well, I think our, well, since under, dog was a P5, P4 centric topic. Does not look like Bird Emanuel is going to win the Central Michigan job.

No shocker to us. No shocker to us. I did like Akron. Stole Fred QB. At Akron, there was actually, they posted some pictures from a recent scrimmage, Alex Adams, who've been getting, what, after round 25? You've asked a lot of them. Full pads, looks healthy.

and then Adrian Norton caught multiple touchdown passes in the scrimmage, I believe. So that's a guy, a sophomore, rising sophomore, could get a high target chair there with Alex Adams. Those are kind of a couple of match and nuggets that I found over the weekend. Could be helpful in your all 134 team drafts. Or the waiver wire. Yep, or the waiver wire. Love that. Yeah, I don't have anything else.

I mean, I think a lot of the news we talked about during, I think the Silas Bolden stuff, I mean, just, again, there's interesting nuggets you pick up from reading B-writers where they, like, have him as the highest ranked wide receiver, even though he might not start at the beginning of the season. You know, I think that's interesting nuggets. But I don't have much other than that. I mean, I think, look, we got injury news is always happening, which is a bummer. And, you know, hate that this close to the season where I'm just ready to get into the season. Let's do rankings, projections. You know, let's get this party started.

man, next time we do a show, we'll be a preview into week one. So. Wow. Yeah. So we are coming. Super excited for the season to start. And, you know, we'll see what's going on. Shane is asking for any drafting slates.

I think, you know, here, Shane, we're going to keep it mainly CFF and try to focus on season-long leagues and get you on. We record on Monday. So it's hard to. We won't have any slates out. They usually don't drop until Wednesday, Thursday. Yeah. What do you guys have to promote? I will be doing my Big Ten previews, team by team preview, with my over-under analysis,

dropping those four columns over the course of the next two weeks. I drop one in the next two days, drop one at the end of the week, and then, you know, so on and so forth. Just drop my tight ends, historical analysis and positional primer column. a lot of in-depth numbers and data to parse through with that, put a lot of time into it. That's always a lot of fun going into that. I'll talk about the off-discussed wide rate corollary that we're going into and how you can kind of find some potential sleepers at the time position here in CFF.

Mike? Week Zero projections are out at the CFF site. If you want to dive into that, already found some edges on the underdog prop. releases. Have you seen that, Eric? Preston Stone down to like... 266? Yeah. Yeah. I had seen that, well, I mean, the 35 and a half pass attempts was just flagrant. That actually started off at 34 and a half, went up 35 and a half.

Yeah. And then it's filing down. I was like, who's betting that off on 34 and a half pass attempts against Novot? Somebody that's blessed soul. Somebody that did not see Kevin Jennings get announced as a team captain. for SMU. It's going on. Who's betting that up? But yeah, Week Zero projections are out. We're obviously posting news on the CFF site Discord.

So much of the same that you can expect from the CFFs. Yeah, that's awesome. And both these guys will be riding over at fantasy points during the season. For a time, I have some betting stuff. And then Mike coming back and doing player props. So super excited about that. We also have a special deal with Underdog that if you guys sign up, you can get 50% matching with them up to $250.

And then also you get $55 off the college football subscription at Fantasy Points, which basically makes it free because the amount of money that you'll make back on Mike and Photon's articles will make the entire package totally worth it. But we also got projections. We're going to be doing ownership projections as well this year, at least for the main slate to start off. And if we can get it down, then we'll do it for all of them. And it'll be a really good opportunity there as well.

and then we have CFF projections and rankings as well for you guys on our site and in our package. So, hey, next week we'll be back here, same time, previewing the season. And until next time, do small things with great love. What? What? What you're shaking your head? You're welcome.