Fantasy Football Daily - 2024 Dynasty Fantasy Football Award Predictions

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

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What? What? What? You're welcome. Okay, you know what it is? It's week one. We're back. The season's finally here.

Like, it's no, it's crept up on us so quickly that we forgot we have to do player picks this week. And Ryan, if you can look, is not staring at the camera because he's feverishly late to putting his player picks in. But that's okay. It's his first year doing it. Jacob's no longer the last person to end. his player picks.

This is a new, this is a new beginning for Jacob and this. This, of course, is Dynasty Points. This is your favorite show to watch on Tuesday nights and your favorite show to listen to first thing, Wednesday morning, and we love you for that. I just want to say that this, I got the notification via Twitter today,

that this has been four years since we joined that platform, since I convinced Jacob to create a Twitter handle, even though he did not want to. And we pulled our friend Big Billy, former co-host, in with us. And now we are here. And I'm proud of us for everything we've achieved. And I'm excited moving forward here with FantasyPoints.com, changing the dynasty landscape over at one of the fastest growing fantasy football websites that exists.

It's not hyperbole. It's just factual. Of course, I am your host of the most time of hands. Joining me as always is Jacob Sanderson, Lucas Gilbert, Ryan Heath. No time for a long intro. We have got a lot of stuff to get to. We have got player picks. We have got our fantasy football award predictions, which I cannot wait for the arguments for this.

And we are going to do one final sendoff to the best fantasy football game show that exists. It is five for five. but before we get into any of that, here's a little taste of what you might have missed last week. If you did not tune in to Dynasty Points, Leibs from the Fantasy Points Discord said, didn't Ryan already give his hot take with his iced coffee take? And you're right. That's why he's not on this episode. He didn't want to face the music is really what it is.

I do, however, have his hot takes, even though Ryan's not here. Where is Ryan tonight? Ryan is busy with ass, the new metric at fantasy points. He is writing an ass article that does not feature Megan the Stallion. I would just picture in Ryan just going nuts out on the town. He's just like, ah, man, I won five for five. First time a couple weeks ago. He's like the rainmaker out there.

Oh, shut out, man. Give me that ass. Hey, babe, what are you up to you tonight? I'm working on some ass. I'm just studying ass like every nerd does. I got ass in the spreadsheets, you know what I mean? We could actually confirm now. That is the average separation score that will be releasing soon.

Updates on the average separation score, still in the works, but we promise it is out. The teaser trailer went out yesterday. Go and find it. I love this show. I mean, it feels like every week we are just here having a hell of a time. Before we get into the player picks, I just want to ask everyone one question. We'll go around the horn.

What are you most excited for for week one as a football fan? Not fantasy analyst, not spreadsheet virgin, not just what are you most excited about for NFL week one? I'll start with Jacob. I already posted mine on Twitter. I want to see Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson in the same backfield. I think it's going to be really, really cool. Hall of Fame talent running back with the best Russian quarterback of all time. I drafted like no Derek Henry this year because I am a spreadsheet virgin,

but I'm still going to greatly enjoy just this like kind of surreal experience of watching those two team up and really happy for the big dog that he doesn't have to go through the last couple years of his legendary career on like a sad, Titans team and can go compete for a Super Bowl, run through some wide open lanes in Baltimore. I can't imagine how much you're going to enjoy watching the big dog on your own NFL team this year. I am truly excited, but to add on there,

I'll admit I'm nervous. He's got to get through week one. He made it through training camp on their practice field. Now I just need to see. I've seen too many knees and Achilles go in like the first three weeks of the season. So after week one, I feel like I'm going to be a lot more comfortable rooting for him, Ryan? Yeah, this question is a little hard mode for me because, you know, not a whole lot to be on Patriots in week one.

Yeah, also nothing excites me. I'm hard to excite you. What about them ask? When I first heard that clip, I just want to share this. I was walking down the beach. Like, I had taken the day off. I'm walking down the beach. I got my earbuds in, listen into the podcast.

And I get, I kind of knew the part was coming because Tom had tipped me off a little bit. But I was just like hysterically laughing at absolutely nothing to any passerby on the beach. Assuming we're looking at me thinking I was a crazy person. And I can obviously never explain what is so funny to anybody. So that, that was my experience first listening to that. But anyways, I, I am. going to go with just Kyle Pitts. I just want to be Kyle Pitts in a real offense where they're throwing more than 18 times a game.

That's kind of it. I just am ready for real Kyle Pitts. Yeah, it's been, it's been too long. Lucas? I think right now it's just the fact that the Broncos have a little bit of hope. Not that we'll actually be good, but there's a little bit more of a direction. Look at the room behind them and you wonder why this is the take. Yeah.

So I have suffered for a while. You know, we won our last Super Bowl almost a decade ago. Holy cow. And that's gotten me by for quite a few seasons going through the Trevor Simeans and this absolutely failed Russell Wilson experiment. And I'm ready for some actual hope again. The Bronkers are going to give that to me this season. Either we're going to completely suck and really hit the reset button and, you know, fire's cleansing. It's going to be fun.

or we can actually believe, or sorry, Bo leave and Bo Nix. Oh, God. You guys are all delusional, I'm telling you. I'll say that my, what I'm most looking forward to

for the NFL season is a little bit fantasy related. I have missed setting my lineups. I have missed going through my leagues because I don't play fake fantasy like best ball. I've been excited to look at my rosters again, some of them for the first time

in a little while here. and actually decide who is going to play in week one. That is very exciting. And I'll just hit again, I'm excited to watch Lamar Jackson play football because he is not only the bringer of the most joy in my life week to week. He's also the most infuriating player I've ever watched on a week to week basis. So I'm excited for the season to watch him play football.

Fun fact, treadmill behind uh behind me while I watched the games and my rule was every time I thought lamar jackson did something heroically stupid I would do 10 minutes on the treadmill the Indianapolis colts game where he led the largest comeback in like the franchise of history jacob the first half of that game I might have done an hour on the treadmill uh because I was rolling around crying at how bad they played so just a little bit of love we take this thing very seriously but again remember

Remember, fantasy football is fun. We love this. So I'm truly excited as a football fan to see what this year brings us. Before we get into player picks and I explain the game, we are going to take our first break, knock it out early so Trey doesn't get mad at me. And we'll be right back. Have to, of course, be a company man at all times.

Last week was like 20 minutes in and it was like, hey, you know, what are we doing? All right, look, we have it on the line again. It's player picks. Jacob won last year. Thanks to actually, thanks to Ryan Heath, Jacob went from worst to first

and jumped me in the rankings and I could never recover. I was cruising like 12 weeks straight, guys. But here we go. This is how it works if you're new to listening. We know we're a dynasty show, but we want something to brag about throughout the year because we play fewer games like five or five

and things like that. So, every week we take a quarterback outside of the top 15, a running back outside of the top 15, a wide receiver outside of the top 30 and a tight end outside of the top 12 in PPR. For projections, we each pick a lineup based on that.

Total the points. Person with the most points at the end of the year picks the beverages, the other hosts for the live draft show. It is a great time. Billy almost didn't make it through year one. I struggled last year with the, What was it a pickle?

What was it called a pickle? Oh my gosh. Yeah, I struggled after the pickleback. That thing was evil. That thing still haunts me. Having to finish maple syrup with pickle juice. Yeah. Since Jacob was kind and gave me the alternative, that was still rough.

Yeah, brutal. But it just puts that much on the line because personally, if I'm these guys, I don't want them to have me controlling what they drink for a live draft stream. And I definitely don't want them picking. So let's knock this out of the park. We're going to start with, I'll go first here. My lineup this week is a lot of upside. We're not going to spend a lot of time on this because it is week one.

But I spent over an hour arguing Sam Darnold in the Discord earlier this week, and I'm never going to get that time back in my life. So I figured why not this week put that argument to the test. Sam Donald versus the New York Giants is a matchup that I like very much. hopefully he can come out and just find Justin Jefferson three times in this game and we all live happier lives and we can all sell the rest of the same Donald that we have. At running back, I am taking the healthy James Connor against Buffalo.

We don't know how many times we're going to get healthy James Connor. I don't know how many times we're going to get him as projected below the top 15 at this rate with how much Kyler bumps up running backs. A wide receiver because I do the show sheet first. Jacob was late. I get to pick his boy. I'm going to go Tank Dell versus the Indianapolis Colts. Don't know how many times he's going to be outside of the top 30 this year.

I want to take advantage of that. And I mean, let's let's face it. We got a quarterback running back wide receiver tight end playing against Carolina this week. Outside of the top 12 of tight ends. I'm taking Taysam Hill to be a touchdown vulture for at least one. At the end of the day, that's what we need in this scenario. Give me Taysom Hill at tight end. Donald, Connor, Tank, and Taysam, Jacob.

All right, a quarterback, I'm going with Baker Mayfield. Emmanuel Forbes last year as a rookie was absolutely atrocious for the Washington commanders, also the most undersized outside cornerback in the league. And who do you want him to go up against if you're an opposing quarterback? Perhaps the tall, muscular tree Mike Evans, who might get about a 9 to 10 inch height difference over Forbes this week. I think he'll be targeted repeatedly. Baker Mayfield should get off to a good start in the nut matchup for opposing quarterbacks at running back. This one kind of feels like absolute stealing that he is ranked out to the top 15.

I'm going to go with Joe Mixon. The current battle to be his running back two in Houston is between Cam Acres and Damian Pierce. The only takeaway I can get from that is that I expect to see an 80% snap rate for Joe Mixin in week one at wide receiver. I'm going to go with the Mexico City game. And I'm going to say that Jaden Reed is the Green Bay Packer who's able to start off Red Hot down in Mexico, working against the Philadelphia Eagles in a game with one of the highest totals on the week. And then finally at tight end, I'm going to go with the hen house, Hunter Henry. Patriots are approximately a zillion point underdog this week. That means I think they're going to be having to drop back the pass repeatedly.

Jacobi Berset is a total statue. back there. I think he's going to be dumping it off three, four times to Henry in the fourth quarter of a hopeless, sad Patriots team just waiting until the owner comes down and tells them they have to start the rookie quarterback. That's right. Let's go. Lucas. So for my picks this week, I went with some players that are a little bit older, but I'm thinking that they're going to start off the season hot. They didn't need that preseason to get going. They're going to knock it out. And so at quarterback going with Justin Herbert, I know we have a lot of questions about what this scheme's going to look like for the Chargers.

But they're going up against Las Vegas. Be careful mentioning the Chargers or Thomas might want to argue about Josh Palmer for an hour. 25 minutes. I almost did Josh Palmer as my wide receiver, but I digress. I don't want to do a stack this early. That's whenever I get a little bit more desperate. stack. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. At right back, I'm going to go with Aaron Jones. I can't believe he's outside of the top 15, especially going up against the Giants, absolutely love that matchup. And I think that they're going to run or lean on the running game. I don't think this is going necessarily be a shootout,

give him touches, and hopefully he can find this way into the insinso a couple of times, too. Christian Kirk going up against the Miami Dolphins. I'm expecting that to be a very high school. in game. So I'm hoping that they're going to use him. I don't think Brian Thomas Jr. is going to be as involved as people want initially. And I can't take Evan Ingram. So I'm going to go with Christian Kirk. And then at Tide end, the riskiest pick, I think. I'm going to go with Luke Musgrave as a high upside option at Philadelphia. So Tucker Kraft might be able to come in and compete for that job.

But Luke Musgrave to start off last season was the Tidon one. We do know that Kraft took over. for Musgrave went down. But I'm going with upside here because Hunter Henry was already off the board. It made me sad. I feel like I have to defend my honor here when Neil Orfield, the great planiverse creator says that I'm pro Josh Palmer. I can assure you that the listener only tier sheet and ranking adjustments episode that Ryan Heath and I went through,

it turned into a 25 minute long Josh Palmer argument. 25 more minutes. Anyone ever needed to spend discussing Josh Palmer? That's what I was going for. Ryan kept going. I dared to say maybe Josh Palmer should be ranked higher than wide receiver 90. That's all I said. In what format?

He was Elijah Moore. Okay. I don't care. I hope he doesn't care. He's not to see wide receiver irrelevant. We're not doing it again. Look what Josh Palmer is doing. He's tearing us apart.

and I can't accept that in this outcome. Neil, offline we can book McConkey versus Palmer bets for this year. I'm willing to take from the last episode was that Josh Palmer was going to be the most infuriating asset in fantasy football. It's already happening. Not even a full week.

I'm infuriated that people keep bringing this guy up. It's Hayden Hurst. It's a Greg Roman team. It's Hayden Hurst. He's the tight end. Let's use our brains here respectfully. Ryan Heath, lineup before this goes off the rails on another Greg Roman Josh Palmer nightmare episode.

Yeah. First, I got to say first about Josh Palmer though, Tom. Oh, no. I don't like him this week. I don't, I don't like him. I dare you. Just to give you that. Just to throw you that bone.

Uh, anyways, my fix. Uh, we are going to talk about Quentin Johnston now. No, no, no, no, no. Okay, yeah. That's enough for that. Enough, enough enough. All right. Gino Smith,

The Broncos is my pick. Just very likely the Seahawks are to increase the pace, increase the pass rate this year. I'm excited for what it's going to look like. I like Gino this week as the favorite. At running back, I'm going Rahim Moster, one of the highest game totals against the Jaguars of the week. Live for multiple touchdowns, I'll take that. I'm just going very upside DFS brain. in this game. We'll see how that goes for me.

At wide receiver, T. Higgins, maybe Jamar Chase plays, maybe he doesn't, maybe he's limited, whatever. Higgins benefits. The Patriots play a ton of man coverage. Higgins was better than Chase against that last year anyway. And then at tight end,

going Noah Fant, literally just to stack a Seahawk. Again, I don't know if this is a good strategy in this game, but we're going to find out how upset I am. We call that kind of the chalk with all those high upside DFS play here. So Nick Fierreis says log on, Jacob mentions QJ, about to become a real life Abe Simpson mean. I'm the bad wide receiver police. Someone brings up on a relevant wide receiver in the comments. I immediately get on the case.

I get my badge. I get my gun and I fire. Oh my God. I'd fire him straight into the sun. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited for this.

QJ takes. I'm excited for this year's player picks weekly because it's been a lot of fun, but now we've got all four of us. We all have four completely different methods in this game. And I have come up in second every year. We have done this. I'm due. I'm due.

This is my year. It's now or never. We're going to take. Our second break here, get that out of the way early, and then it is go time for pretty much the rest of the evening. We're going to come back and run through how we're doing the awards. Shout out, and I'm disappointed. Really, only one person left to suggestions.

I'm disappointed in everyone else. So don't think you're getting away unscathed from that. We're going to be right back, and we're going to get right into prediction time. Okay, so every single year we do this. We pick fantasy awards. We pick who we think are winning the Super Bowl. Who is it going to be against? And who the real life NFL MVP is going to be just for fun.

And, you know, for bragging rights, of course. None of us have been right on the Super Bowl. So who knows? Maybe we just got to stop betting against the Chiefs at this point. I just don't know. But that's what we're going to do. We're going to do the fantasy MVP. We're going to do the fantasy LVP who we think is going to be the biggest.

No, that's not true. I got the Rams three years ago. Did you? I apologize. I retract my statement. But I had the Rams, the Stafford year. Okay. Okay.

I retract my statement. The only one that I've ever gotten right in my life. And I need credit for that. We've got Sleeper of the Year. We've got the biggest dynasty riser. And then we've got from the comments. And when I say from the comments, only Brian Ford. So shout out Brian Ford and everyone else.

Shame on you. Get in those comments when I tell you because you get the shoutouts. 0RB Hero, the Hero RBR0, most likely to inspire a Jacob rant and the Ryan Heath Whole Lot of Ass Award brought to you by Teasers, Strip Club here in Winnipeg, unofficially. So, can you imagine if we got our show actually sponsored by teasers? I mean, I can put some phone calls, put some phone calls, just, you know. Yeah. Hey, why not?

Let's do, let's start this off. You know what? We're going to leave fantasy MVP for last. We're actually going to do this in reverse order. It will be more grandiose that way. Let's start with the, from the comments awards via Brian Ford and no one else, because you all let me down on this.

I expect you to make up for it this week. We're going to go the zero RB hero. Who is the one RB that zero RB enthusiasts are going to love like Austin Echler a couple years ago, for best ball mania, Jacob? I'd probably say Jaliel McLaughlin would be the first pick, just in terms of a guy that you can actually stream right out of the gate, and then also has the potential to be a really good value later on,

if there's contingent value. I kind of changed my mind on this backfield recently. I was previously in mostly on the two bigger backs. Now I'm in on just all three backs after seeing Jalil get some of the long down and distance stuff. So shifted a little bit off of estimate and a little bit more into Jalil, still targeting all three. But I think Jalil is that perfect fit where you could probably stream him early season in ZRB. And then if anything was to happen to Jvante, you might have an every restart for the whole rest of the season. Love that pick. Ryan?

I'm going to go with J.K. Dobbins here. Okay. Guy you can get kind of later, probably the most talented player in the backfield. We can see it kind of immediately how it shakes out week one. wouldn't be like that shocking if he was just projecting as a high-end RV2 after the first couple weeks once we figure out how this backfield's going to be broken down yeah that's that's that's kind of all there is to it um yeah upside upside play for sure uh in the chat here jamie said jerome ford i like that pick lucas i'm going to go with brian robinson junior i mean we've

talked him to death this off season it feels like on the show but i absolutely love him and he's going in the late 20s for running backs right now. I think in the drafts I've been doing, he's an eighth or ninth round pick. Like, that's, that's a perfect spot. And he has the upside to be a top 12 R.B. He already was for a very good stretch last season. Whenever, I think he was RB5 through at least week 11. Like, yeah, give me that all day.

I don't care about Austin Neckler being there. I have us. I have one that might cause some controversy. Are you ready? A likelihood of all of our favorite running back surviving the NFL season is about zero. So there's one handcuff to me that zero RB drafters can be getting a top four round redraft value. We talked about that exact scenario here on Dynasty points. Tyler Algier in the Falcons offense should anything happen to Bejan Robinson can easily become a 13.

to 15 point per game player with blow up potential in this offense. There's even less behind Algier than there is on some other NFL rosters. Some backup situations are questionable. This one is not. There's no veterans coming in to save the day. I mean, hell, Leonard Fournett is being brought into Indy for a workout. We do not fear Leonard Fornett in the year of our Lord Greg Roman 24. Okay.

Algear to me is a smash and if no Bijon were there now I truly believe we're looking at a top four round redraft ADP so to me if you've stashed Algier as a zero redrafter it's kind of the only thing you can be hoping for at this point if it comes true congratulations you have a league winner

it's a little sad a little sad but you know sometimes that shit happens we have to you know all right let's do our next award again courtesy of Brian Ford and no one else for not leaving comments Hero RB Zero

Which running back You're gonna draft You're gonna draft To be your hero RB And it is going to blow up In your face And I know it's a tough one It is a tough one

It can be difficult I have mine I hate every running back So it's hard for you It is true If I have to pick an early one I mean I don't know I'll just pick the guy

That I've been hating on All season I guess So I think that, and Karen Williams is not a great pick where he's been going better, where he's been going after the ridiculous pot return stuff, though. Right. So that's, you know, soak up that discount. But in terms of the first two-round pick, he's going there, not for me, thanks. I predict quorum to work into a two-to-one rotation pretty early, maybe even a little bit more over the course of the season.

I don't think he's going to be a zero. I think the only guys going early that are going to be zeros or whichever guys get hurt. I don't think there's anyone at risk of, like, fully losing their job until the mid-round's but um yeah i think in terms of a hero rb first two rounds i think you're going to look at kairn by the end of the year and say like there's a lot of guys going around six that are performing similarly right um if i'm talking about a hero rb someone that i am taking to be my anchor my the love of my fantasy football life if you would the guy that to me allows me to make a lot of mistakes in the mid-tier rounds that i think could disappoint me it's devon a chan i'll

tell you why don't roll your eyes at me ryan i knew you were i knew you were going to do it i kept a straight face nice you said it and i was like i'm drinking your face your eyes drifted immediately i was watching you can't i will run i will run the film back uh here's why what if what if moster isn't dead okay and what if the dolphins listen what if the dolphins don't rush for a truly obscene amount of rushing touchdowns and they actually let to a throw some passing touchdowns or he just can figure it out late in the year. And not enough of those go to Devon A-Chain. What if Devon A-chan wide receiver three doesn't come to fruition?

There are a lot of ifs here for a guy that does not get enough touches to not need insane efficiency and touchdown luck to hit as a anchor running back. It's not who I trust if I think that there is one person without injury that could let us down enough for it to matter to me. I'm going to pick Devon A-chan. You keep your 10 touches without the touchdowns, Jacob. I know on Twitter, you said that 11 carries for 40 yards and two catches for 10 yards was a usable week. I like more than 7.3 fantasy points for my running back.

You gave A-chan 11 carries, and we can count on a nice, what, 85 yards like that? Yeah, that's fine. It's the 11 with three touchdowns in a game to me that I think can be hilariously unrealistic. Oh, my goodness. The best player in the world. Okay. Okay, Zumer. Lucas.

When he gets touchdowns, when he gets efficiency, maybe he's in charge of his own destiny, Boomer. Jesus, Lucas. Oh, goodness. Thomas, I can't believe that one. My hero, or my hero, R.B, who will be a zero, unfortunately, is Travis E.N. Jr. I think that people are going to be seeing him in the second round, drafting him, And they're going to be so excited because they took somebody like CD Lamb in the first round. And you're just going to be so frustrated with them all season, wherever you see the workload.

You see that the efficiency or the poor efficiency from last season rears its ugly head again. And you're going to be sitting there with somebody who is never really a true RB1 each week. But at the end of the season, he might have an RB1 total. and you're just going to be left wanting more. So that's going to be my zero. That's not bad. I actually like that pick. I like that pick.

That's who I thought you were going with. Round three, round three for Dynasty guys is still absolutely criminally insane. What are we doing? Ryan? I'm going to go Isaiah Pacheco here. So I've been on quite a journey with Pacheco this off season. I think summer when he was like a fourth round best ball pick,

I was really interested. to it just on the idea of what if the chiefs don't sign anybody and he just gets the Jerich McKinnon role as well as the Isaiah Pacheco role where he was like a top five running back down the stretch. And then the chief signed somebody and I think Samajai Pryne is a credible threat to at a minimum do the Jerich McKinnon thing. And that just makes me lose all interest in Isaiah Pacheco. I know I'm like a couple weeks late to this news or whatever, haven't been on the show since it happened. But just thought I'd give the take.

I don't care about like Carson Steele or whatever. The real goal line vulture on the Chiefs is Mahomes. Well, the goal line vulture is really Andy Reed and like the seven-street that he wants to call a rugby play for. Exactly, yeah. So, yeah, I don't know that. Yeah, I don't know that Pacheco is going to be like a horrendous bust or whatever, but I think anyone that was taking him in the top two rounds of redraft leagues especially

is going to be pretty disappointed when his production looks fairly similar to last year. Yeah, no, I think that was totally fair. Also remember, a perfectly called landing spot, Samage P. Ryan, right here on this show. We were the earliest. So shout out to us. Let's go with the player most likely to inspire a Jacob Sanderson. rant last year this player was justin fields as people were saying that justin fields uh was a more viable fantasy asset than lamar jackson i got like two weeks worth of content out of that out of

jacob's 20 minute rant on that alone who is it going to be this year guys jacob because it's about you you get to go last i'll start with lucas i got to think about the kind of things that i rant about all right so i i think it might be cheating to use this player since jacob's already had a rant about at least the coaches for this player. And it's going to be Brock Bowers. I think that there's going to be so many chances that Brock Bowers shows out that he has these elite traits. And we're going to get eight fantasy points on the week and sit here and go, what are you

doing, Las Vegas? Yeah. Jacob's going to say that in a way better tone. He's going to articulate his words at an elite level. And we might have 10 minutes of just pure gold sitting here. That's going to live on the internet for the rest of time. And every single time that Brock Bowers disappoints again, we can just replay it.

Right. And I'll be lapping that victory every week just to send them even further into the abyss. Ryan, this is your first year, full time here on this program. You may not be as accustomed to these rants as the rest of us, but who do you have as the player that's going to send Jacob off the hardest? Pause. I'm actually, I'm going to steal my answer from the chat because I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been a Jacob rant about this one in the last five minutes since the comment was posted.

But best ball moderate asking if he should stash Dalvin. If Dalvin Cook gets activated and put into this Cowboys backfield, I know you're already a little bit brainbroken on Twitter over the Rico Dowell stuff. what's going to happen when it's like Dalvin Cook 12 carries for 30 yards and people are treating this as like the not only like oh you were wrong about Rico Douddle but also like shit is Dalvin Cook like the guy I pick up now are we streaming Dalvin Cook this way I'm streaming Dalvin Cook any week it's already starting it's already starting he can't help himself I definitely like the Cowboys backfield is see I mean first of all just hilarious Ryan wins I just made it happen no keep Go it. The Cowboys backfield is definitely the most likely to tilt me at some point. Because there's, in every possible permutation of the Cowboys backfield, like some deeply horrible running back is going to be getting fantasy. So it's going to, in some way or another, it's going to tilt me.

Honestly, probably the right answer is probably Rico. Because the thing that I get most tilted about is like when my takes are correct and other people take them too far. and like if we get like a hundred yard and a touchdown Rico Dowdle game and then people start saying like should I trade a first for Rico Dowdle like is what if he's actually good

like that's what I'm going to lose my fucking mind like that would be like I'm going to be out of control. Right. That's that's going to be one. If I think there's one player that I think is actually going to make Jacob lose his mind,

it's got to be the prince that was promised. and if he somehow still doesn't produce the way he wants him to. It's got to be Trevor Lawrence, because if we don't have like top six Trevor Lawrence by like week six, I am going to be so relentlessly obnoxious. Isn't he like QB 17? Yeah, but here's the thing. We said if he doesn't absolutely break out this year

and doesn't light it up as the prince that was actually. Would you let me finish? This is why I know I'm right. this is why I know I'm right. Bra man shit. Look, last week, someone called this unprofessional for talking over each other. And here you are, perpetuating the stereotype on this podcast,

not letting somebody finish. So can I finish? All right, I'm going to finish. Maybe. Pause. Trevor Lawrence, if he does not break out this year and give us the prince that was promised, I'm going to be relentless in saying that party is better

with more than just actual real life data that Jacob fails to recognize because it does not suit his argument. If Trevor Lawrence fails one more time and Brock Purdy is again better, be prepared for me to send Jacob through the window behind him with how obnoxious I am

and the rent will be nothing short of legendary. Tom is the most spiritually accurate because like the one thing in all of football that by far tilts me the most is people standing for these fraudulent scheme Ponzi scheme ass quarterbacks. So like any, like probably the most likely, easily the most tilt that I've ever been about this subject was like when Purdy

took over and I was out there telling anybody to listen to be like, party's going to be great guys. Like it's literally you can't fail on this thing. This is finally going to be the proof that Jimmy G sucked all along. Purdy's going to kill it. And that was fun for like two weeks. And then everybody was like, no, Purdy's actually really good. So like the only thing I could.

think that could tilt me more than that experience is if Sam Darnold, after a career of being like the least efficient quarterback in every statistical category, goes out and has a top 12 EPA season, which I fully expected to do. And then instead of all the people being like, okay, yeah, maybe it is, maybe it is a fraud perpetuated on the public. If in week six, all of the purdy to a goth, Jimmy stands come out and are like, maybe Sam Donald's been good all along. I'm going to lose my fucking mind. I'm going to jump into the ocean and drown myself with an anchor. I will not be able to handle it.

Yeah. Sam Darnold, QB1 season is coming for Jacob's mental health. I just wanted to reply to that comment that was on the screen. Andy Dalton has a top five fantasy season. Trevor Lawrence does not. Does not. Yeah, that's right. That is correct.

Yeah. I want to point that out. Right. Yep. I agree. I agree with all that. we've gotten two. We've gotten two mini rants already.

So that's how I know this season is here, because Jacob's already prepared to lose his damn mind. Let's go to the next one. Let's go the Ryan Heath, a whole lot of ass award brought to you by teasers. Now there's two ways we can, we can do this. Who do we think is going to be the best separator?

That's not fun. Who to me? Who to me? Who's going to make Ryan the most uncomfortable? well I think it's Vita Vaya that's talking about who's not the best ass No I think that's probably going to be the chat Ryan

given this show of history especially when the you know people find out where to comment about Jacob's hog but no we are going to we're going to make this I'm going to say a whole lot of ass award as I mean this is this is a tough one because the best separator the year

like we know that's Tyreekill I'm going to spend this negatively. The whole lot of ass award brought to you by teasers at the end of the year is going to be, let's call it the biggest, we can't even do that because we're doing the biggest bus. This is a tough question. This is really tough to frame it.

Let's go biggest tease. There you go. Who's going to be the biggest fantasy tease of the year? I actually like that one. That was very tough, Brian. Well done. I don't know. I got one.

You ready? Rashad Bateman. People bringing back. The Rashad Bates, Matt Harmon, I blame you. People bringing back the faith in Rashad Bateman. We have seen Lamar Jackson be unable to hit Rashad Bateman, regardless of how open he is, to the point where it doesn't even throw it to him. Not only that, but he might be one of the worst receivers I've ever actually seen try to catch a football.

He is bad. It got to a point last year where every time they threw him the ball, I was praying that it was going to Patrick Ricard instead. This guy is touted as being an elite separator and can get open. maybe it's because nobody pays attention to him. He's going to be the biggest tease and he will be dropable by the end of the dynasty

drawable right now. There we get well. Not according, not if you're a fan of Matt Harmon and the other people that are pro Rashad Bateman. I'm so sorry. One year earlier on the timeline,

James and Williams, Jay Mattson Williams. He's been nothing but a tease his whole career. He will continue to tease. he's unlike Rashad Bateman where like the truthers kind of know that they're engaging in like harmful behavior where it's like whenever Rashad Bateman stands he's like, I know, I know, I know. I shouldn't be doing this. But like maybe.

Always a little tongue. Jameson, he still has like full-throated defenders. Like I think Lucas is even one of them. Like there's there's people out there like come out there and earnestly believe in Jameson Williams. He's going to be a tease. He's going to be it's going to be two weeks of nothing and victory laps and then it's going to be one week of three catches, 94 yards of a touchdown and the truth was like, uh, see, see, and it's going to be that all year long.

Yeah, I, hey, we're going to talk James and Williams in this program a couple of time, Brian Ford said, sad trombones. Dustin Ross, fellow Winnipeguer, says a super dingy Winnipeg strip club is now sponsoring your show sweet, unofficial, but I mean Hey, Dustin's watching from there right now. Yeah, he is, he pulled it up.

We're playing on the live screen. Well, I don't know. Candy is. is doing the routine. Who knows? Ryan, let's go to you for the biggest tease of the fantasy season. I'm going to go like a slightly different direction with this instead of like washed wide receivers. Not even washed.

Just never, never were wide receivers. I'm going to go with Trey Benson. And the reason for that is going to be it. It's got it's going to be like James Connor 70 to 80% opportunity share. He's got he's going to get. hurt and miss like two or three games like he does every single season. And we're, we're going to get like 60% opportunity share Troy Benson. He's going to, he's going to make some

big plays. It's going to be awesome. We'll be super excited. Like, people will be trading for him in Dynasty pants all the way off. And then Connor's going to come back and it's going to be the, it's going to be the exact same thing as it was before. Like, he's just not going to hold on any role whatsoever and it'll it'll be like a debate we have for the entire 2025 off season is well is trade venson actually good like couldn't he hold on to any sort of opportunity share but it it's just that james connor is inevitable and that he's not going to seat any of it all right i i can vibe with that uh macho's corner wants to know did we crown the best player yet not yet we're doing that towards the end working our way there or crescendo lucas i think i'm going to go with somebody who could

actually win this award, not just for the way we're interpreting it, but also have the biggest award. And that is going to be Jerry Judy. I think that as the wide receiver two in Cleveland, people are going to see the opportunity for him to produce anything. But as a Broncos fan, I've already lived that experience. I've already seen the stellar separation numbers. I know how well he can run a route. And at the end of the day, it just breaks your heart whenever your team still sucks at least offense because the Browns have a good defense but I just I just your fantasy points are still terrible I just want to say there that two of the players that have been mentioned so far have like legitimate blurbs in the ass drop so they they work on

both levels drop yeah they're dropping it they're dropping it real no real low for the ass article that will drop tomorrow I was I was not happy to put my name on anything that had Jerry Judy involved in it. I wouldn't be either. I mean, ask Lucas. He did it for years. And look where that got him.

Yep. Terrible. All right. We're going to take our last break and then we're going to get into biggest risers, biggest bus, MVP,

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I mean, it really starts with college football last night, us today, and then it just does not stop at all, mind you. All right, let's get into who we think is going to be the biggest dynasty riser through the 20-24 season. This one actually took me a while to figure out. And as I stare at it, I hate Ryan's pick. So let's start with that. That was the idea.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you're learning. Welcome. Yeah. Honestly, God, this was the last one on the show sheet I needed to fill out. I'm like, what would go for maximum just make Thomas upset? And no, it's not Christian Watson's left hammie. It's Rashidjit.

So let me make the case here, okay? And I know there's going to be some pushback, I'm sure. Look. I'm about to have a ranch. Oh, my God. So Rashid, she hid. Really efficient player, right, has gotten to the NFL level been insanely efficient on a per out basis in all the nerdy stats, has even just his overall production with Chris Olave on the field has been fairly similar to Olave, right?

We're drafting him a gazillion rounds later in all formats, right? Also, this Saints offense should look different this year. We have Clint Kubiak coming in. The Saints were dead last in use of most. and play action or bottom two or something like that last year. So both Olavé and Shaheed, we could see a lot better efficiency from. Michael Thomas, obviously off the team, both players were a lot better with him off the field as well last year.

I can just see like a year three kind of tepid breakout for a Rashid Shaheed. And he's currently valued as like a kind of nothing bench sash flex play in Dynasty. I think that we could see him rise up to like the sixth-ish round of startups. And that would qualify as my biggest dynasty riser. You know the biggest- You've been hanging out with Scott Barrett a long time. Even if I'm trying to force this little dweeb on. Yeah, you write enough articles with Scott Barrett.

You co-write enough stuff about ass and you start getting to, Sheid-Thijid takes. The biggest detriment to Rashid Shahid and his ability to rise up dynasty ranks is production and I don't think that changes this year because Derek Carr is still his quarterback and he can barely support one fantasy viable wide receiver in Chris. There's only one wide receiver who triggers me more than Rashid Jihad and I'm pretty sure Lucas put that loser on his seat later. Both these guys are sci ops.

They don't do anything. They don't earn any volume. They suck. They're useless. I can't wait. Jacob, go ahead with yours. Yeah. So I don't like your small sample efficiency wide receiver, but let me.

They give you my small stuff. I was going to say. Right below this one on the show sheet. Yeah. Okay. I'll give you dot TV on Wix. Basically the same thing. The difference is I think that he's a more versatile player.

I think Shihed is basically just a deep threat. We've also seen it for a couple of years. Wix, to me, has a more well-rounded game in terms of being able to win against all sorts of coverages, providing yak ability, actually being able to win over the middle of an intermediate error. immediate areas of the field. And tons of contingent upside. I don't know what the rotation is going to be like in Green Bay.

I mean, honestly, this whole wide receiver room might just be the teasers award for the year if they just keep ping pong weeks back and forth. But I think if Wix gets a chance by injury or by them finally giving up on this Romeo Dobbs shit, they keep forcing down our throats, that maybe we'll actually get a month of 75% route rate on Tavio. Wix and you know if you're giving me in the fantasy industry in 2024 and you want to be perceived as a ball knower you just you just have to talk about Dantavion Wix true and why he's God's gift to the world so do we don tautavion Wix stepping up here in year two and see Neil

Orfield gets it thanks for proving you no ball don't Tavion Wix biggest dynasty riser because I know ball. Yeah, shout out Ryan Heath for being like no needle mover on Don Tavian Wix early in the year. I felt like no one talked about him until I did. I might have just been tuned out, honestly. I thought the same, but maybe we were just all working in vacuums and then and then it all came together. For the record, like that's on a team nerd. There's a 10% chance that I'm right. There's a 90% chance that like this time next year, Wix just has the same season he had last year and then everybody else is still doing the Wix thing. And I'm like, shut up and move the fuck odd for doth david we are 12 months away from me putting don tavia in wicks as my dynasty riser of the

year and jacob getting really upset about it yeah yeah he that's i could add that you know what you're getting you already are understanding like how in season this is going to go and i'm really proud of you for that uh lucas who's yours oh so this is the first of several times i apparently have disagreed on some of our other awards. And my riser of the year is Mr. Trey Benson. So I think for a lot of the same things that Ryan was saying, he's not going to see the field a lot.

James Connor is still very much in play. But I think that the touches that he's going to get are still going to be very efficient. People are going to get excited about seeing an explosive athlete in this Arizona Cardinals offense with some other talent around him. And it's going to be very easy to buy into that. And we're going to see that boost comes. startup drafts next season. I think that he can follow a very similar path to Giovante Williams potentially. I don't know if he'll get into the second round. That's,

that's really pushing it there by very much see a world where he's going to be a third round pick next season. And at minimum, I think a fourth round pick. I think right now he's going at the end of the seventh round in startup. So it's not, it's not a massive rise. But I think that the ceiling that he can reach is one of the higher ones for somebody that you're drafting after Route six. Okay. I can vibe with that. I have the only right answer here.

Sorry to tell everybody that, but it's just facts. It's Rishi Rice. We never should have gotten 7-8 turn Rishie Rice. Suspension or not. They brought an Xavier worthy. Okay. Hollywood Brown is a near zero in Dynasty. Like, enjoy your round like nine or eight wide receiver that could easily be like around

around 10 when he's not resigned to Kansas City next year after he plays only eight games. So see ya. Rashid Rice. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Just to get outdone by Pop Douglas anyway. I used to

love Hollywood Brown, but I'm kind of sick of his shit at this point. But Rashid Rice has a legitimate chance to jump in the second round of Dynasty startups next year. On market report, we said that he was basically mini-aummon Rossin Brown towards the back half of the year. He averaged well over 16 points per game when he became a full time player.

Should he maintain being the number one guy, which I know a lot of people love Xavier Worthy, but in the last preseason game, it was first target Rishi, first target Rishie, need a third and long, Rishie, he to me looks like the wide receiver one. If we get another 16 point per game season, even 15 and a half point per game going in to the vaunted, year three breakout. I mean, oh my God, this guy is going to go

from round seven to round two and absolutely go nuts established as the number one receiver in Kansas City passing Travis Kelsey as he gets one year older. Now, the only thing that can hurt this whole thing is the whole suspension gimmick, but I'm still only predicting four years

and it took Camar like a year and a half to get suspended for his whole thing. So still not going to worry about that. didn't worry about that all year. Dynasty points, listeners didn't worry about that all year. We're again, could possibly get Patrick Mahomes

wide receiver won in round two next year. And no one should be surprised by that when it happens. So Rishi Rice is that dude this year. All right, let's go with the team's stack of the year. This one is going to be good. What team? I picked players.

I saw everyone else. two of us pick teams and two of us oh no three of you pick teams great i'm the only one that called this is the team stack right that's as the one who suggested the prompt i was looking for a team okay well no one explained that to me so i'll go first let me pull up the text that i sent you i'm almost sure that i explained this team well you sent what it was but i don't think you said i said team stack

of the year one team that exceeds expectations where lots of players pay off okay fair i'll take that I'll take that. I'll take the L on that. In the show sheet. I'll take the L on that. I was busy arguing with Neil Orfield about the movie Ransom

and why it is a top tier action movie for the 90s. I didn't have time to read that, okay? So shout out. We still don't believe that's a real movie boomer. Oh my God. Ransom that's not a movie.

Come. How much older? You know what? I'm not going to go with this again. A lot older. just try to tip-talk Devon A-chan. You're like 82. Yeah.

It is true. That's fair. I haven't called that before. My incorrect, my incorrect selection for this category is going to, fine. You know, I'll say the Dallas Cowboys, but I'll say specifically the Dallas Cowboys for two players. How about that? Suck it, Jacob. Also, look, last year, the DAC CD Lamb stack was unstoppable.

You could not beat it. If Jake Ferguson somehow decided that he was going to have. one of his four good weeks last year at the same time. Look out. I think that having DAC and Cid Lam alone can win people leagues, not just in redraft, but Dynasty as well. Like it,

it's going to be unbelievable. Now the rest of that offense, okay, I'll admit, probably Dogwater with the run back. Yeah, Oh my God. But I do,

again, I do, I do think, that was your best Zach Wilson right there. I do think that DAC and C, and CD Lamb to me are probably the biggest league winning stack that there is. So to me, it's the Cowboys, but specifically DAC and CD Lamb. I just have one question for Tom.

When you're counting up all the points from your Cowboys stack, are you doing that on the internet? Or are you pulling out the newspaper box score and then writing it down in your binder? Well, when I go on my paper route, I just so happen to sneak one of those newspapers. Now, a newspaper, Ryan, was the thing that they used to produce where somebody would print out the day's news really, you know, and ship it out to people early in the morning where you would do this thing where you open it and then read it on paper.

So I'm glad we could solve a couple of things tonight. I do vaguely remember newspapers from my childhood. I remember like laying out the sports section on the floor when I was like five years old and then I never saw a newspaper again. That's so funny. Jesus Christ. All right, Jacob. This is, let's do it.

Give you the Broncos. I've talked about how I love every running back in this backfield. I'm sure everybody's heard this step for by now, but they were the fifth team in running back expect of fantasy points. Even in half PPR, they were higher, I'm sure, in full PPR. But I had written the article for half and I haven't done the research on full. just every single year of Sean Payton's career as a play caller. They've had top five receiving XFP for the running back position.

It's going to be a spot to target where you get all these running backs of pretty cheap prices, especially in seasonal, but even in Dynasty, you're going to want to take multiple bets across your portfolio on this backfield. And then I also look at Bowenix as a very cheap quarterback to acquire with a lot of insulated value in Dynasty and some rushing upside even for seasonal league, especially Superflax formats to target. And then you have total cheap dart throw bets on guys like Mims, Franklin Dulcich. I could see one of those hitting.

And Cortland Sutton, as much as he's like a complete boomer pick, is like basically freely available in Dynasty, probably one of the cheapest possible dynasty guys you can get. It's probably a pretty good bet for like a 22, 23% target share this year. I think that there's a lot of value to be had in this Broncos offense. Yeah, I like to pick. Lucas, you can't pick your Broncos. Who's going to be? So I went with the Seattle Seahawks just because I can't keep thirsting over Gino Smith individually anymore this offseason.

But the reason why I love this stack is the cost that goes into acquiring the players to have the stack. Gino Smith is going as the quarterback 30 right now. You have D.K. Metcalf who is the highest of any of the Seahawks players going in round five. I'll let Ryan Heath talk about how much we're supposed to love Kenneth Walker. but Kenneth Walker is a great look there. Tyler Lockett just keeps hanging around and keeps producing. I don't think he's going to be a top two or, yeah, top 24 wide receiver this season, but I think that he's going to be a fine player for your flex spots.

And then you have the upside of JSA and the potential that he can improve in year two. I think that there's a lot of upside baked into this at very low cost. to try to acquire some of these players. We won't go into NOAA, FAMP, but no offense also fun. So, yeah, the Seahawks won't get into no offense, so it's okay if you don't. Ryan, that's my week one pick-um player.

Don't talk like that. Don't think I didn't notice. Don't think I didn't notice. Go ahead, Ryan. Anyway, I just want, I don't know how I became the Ken Walker guy, by the way. I've never been a Ken Walker guy my entire. Dude, I'm with you, man.

This is the first year I'm in. It's going to happen for it. Yeah, and his price doesn't change when he might catch passes now. It's weird. Why doesn't his price change? Anyway. It did change. It went down.

Yeah, exactly. It's the past protection, bros. That's really what's causing it. Yes. I took the Titans. This one isn't so much like I have the utmost confidence in this offense and that everything is going to work. It's more like I want to find out.

And I think it's either going to work or it's going to work. or it's going to be really bad, but it's going to be kind of fun just with the passing volume that Brian Callahan is not shut up about all season. If the Titans do anything short of like top three in pass attempts per game this year, then I'm going to be disappointed by where Callahan has set the expectations. And also Calvin Ridley and DeAndre Hopkins both kind of priced like their wash. Now, I agree both of them could be. but at their prices kind of in all formats,

I'm totally fine with finding out. I was really big on Hopkins as like a catchable target, kind of positive regression type of guy. Then he got hurt and I was like, oh, okay, like old receiver, hurt going into the year. Probably don't want that. And he was like the quietest ever like he's going to be okay for week one, a week or so ago.

So now I'm back in on DeAndre Hopkins and I'm excited again, I guess. Calvin Ridley getting compared to Jamar Chase, obviously, by Callahan. He's either going to, we're either going to look back on this and be like, man, Brian Callahan was really trying to tell us or this is going to be like we play all the Brian Callahan clips in like November and it's just embarrassing to watch her think about.

So, and Tajay Spears, have to say Tajay Spears. Tony Pollard's good too, just as a pick as a bet. I prefer Spears. just because one of the best past catching seasons we've seen out of our being running back in a really long time. So I definitely want to be in on that in all formats too. Right. I actually like this pick because I watched a hashtag watch the game,

their last preseason game, and they opened up like four to five plays for play action rollouts or play action tight end screens or, you know, overrouts, check that. Like the offense looked smooth. and for what could be expected out of the system. And I mean, if we get that, like if we get Calvin Ridley running deep crossers on the backside,

while Will Levis is like doing a backside sprint out and hits them wide open. I mean, guys, we could legitimately be talking about 1,200 yards from Ridley and like Will Levis rocketing up draft boards next year. So I love that pick. I very much liked what I saw when the starters were on the field for Tennessee. And I like that I didn't see Traylen Burke.

So, I mean, that's always, that's always a sign that things are going in the right direction, if you ask me. Okay. We're out there. He was just running windsprints. It was just out there and I didn't see him. And that made me pretty happy. So we've done Team Stack the right way. I totally didn't misread that.

We did the biggest dynasty riser. Now we're going to do the sleeper of the year. I kind of like how this one is shaping up. I'm going to go first here, just because I want to knock out. I want to ask, since this wasn't in the text message, Jacob,

you can pull it up. Sleeper of the year, let's define how low that you have to go and what we expect for this to be a hit. All these seem fine to me. Okay, that's fair. I'm going to go with Jameson Williams as the sleeper of the year.

And I'll tell, Yeah. Unironically, Jacob, unironically the sleeper of the year. But I'll tell you why. It's because he's quite literally expected to do nothing. Right now, he is the teenager failing in high school. Well, 10th round. So, I mean, that's still a sleeper to me.

That's pretty high expectations to me. This is like the teenager that's failing school that decides to like stay in bed because he doesn't want to, no one expects anything. but then he shows up the class and maybe he gets an A. Like we can very much see that ending. I don't necessarily think it's going to happen, but I said this on the show, I think it was last week in the Bold Takes episode,

where like if it doesn't happen this year, he's just droppable. So I'm going to say that as a sleeper to legitimately break out, I consider his breakout to be like 12 points per game, 12 and a half, which to me, if you get that out of James and Williams, you're doing backflips up and down the street.

So for my sleeper. Oh my God, it'll be like a fourth round technique here. Exactly. He walks, he talks, he does cartwheels. Exactly.

So to me, as a sleeper, I'll say Jameson Williams, as a bonus for a true sleeper, a player that's left for dead, I'll say Xavier Leggett, actually blossoming as the number one receiver in Carolina, not Deonté Johnson,

to me would be a, absolute sleeper pick that would that would be that would blow up so those are my Stevenier like that's the number one sleeper this year

then I don't need to work a locker here anymore like just please please Xavier your best bowl portfolio one time for my underdog teams brother but that's it

I think they're two fun picks and I think that you know they're not really expected to contribute if you look at I think rational Twitter

Irrational Twitter would be Jamel wide receiver one season, which is out there. But in terms of like a player, not truly expected, but more so that you are hoping he does what we think he can do or what they think he could do, I'll say Jameson Williams at 12.5 points per game, to me would be the biggest sleeper of the year.

Yeah, we'll go with that. Lucas. I'm assuming this is the one that Jacob doesn't like out of my picks. And that is going to be clear. I don't like Shaw wide receivers. I know, I know. But I was looking for somebody that I thought could kind of skyrocket up boards as well. But somebody that also, I was taking a risk here.

All right. I can, there's a very real scenario where he leads to the Buffalo Bills and targets this season. We did see a large uptick and work as the season kept going on. I saw an uptick in Red Zone targets from, I think, one throughout the first, what, 15 games. And then he had four over the last four games that the bills played in for the season. that's won a game. That's not great, but it's a lot better than one through the first 15 or so games. He was hyper efficient with his opportunities.

I know that's not going to carry over with volume necessarily. I still think that he's going to be good in the opportunity he gets. And I don't think that there's been a player for the bills really emerge as that true number one for commanding a large target share. I think that little Shakir can have a very defined role. I think they can help a lot of teams. And I don't think you're going to have to pay very much to get him before the season starts. Or if you were acquiring him over the off season, you weren't paying very much to get him. He is the kind of player that's thrown into a trade to make it just a little bit more even for someone.

Like, I think that that sets up to be a really good sleeper pick. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. And you don't have to pay too much to get him. So I'm going to cover myself just a little bit there. But I do think that the potential is there. All right. I don't mind that for Super. Fun quick trivia question to troll Khalil Shakir, who's not that bad of a pick. I just like get tilted by this guy because he goes so high in so many drafts and people keep tweeting at me about him.

Trivia time. Kalil Shakir, under 15% targets per outrun in both of the first two years years career. There has been one wide receiver since 2010 to have posted a top 36 season after opening their career with two straight sub 15% targets per outrun season. Can anyone name that wide receiver? This is currently... Defon Diggs. Not true. He made out of the gate.

I'm going to say Devonte Adams. No. He earned a lot of targets actually early in the street. He just didn't catch any of them. Yeah, it was just bad. I said Demerius Thomas. Is that wrong? That is not true.

How about here's this for a clue. And so they was tossing babies and I was catching them, unlike Agalor. Oh, my gosh. That loser. run for me in my head. Oh, my God. I just want to point

up before we get Jacobs here, Parker, we love you. Not a start and sit, but my suggestion is always start who's projected to score more. Because that's how I do my start and sits. So there you go. There's the big secret to Tommy T's

lineup decisions. And Neil, Neil Orfield wants to know is Xavier to get this here's Nico Collins and the Jacobs sphere. I mean, kind of, right?

He's like a dude that I'm drafting a ton of and like praying for happiness, I guess. It's kind of healthy. Yeah, I'll take it. Jacob,

who's your guy? Yeah, I went with Bucky Irving. I talked about him last week on the Bold Predictions show. I loved his college tape before he, before it turned out

he was completely unathletic and a tiny little man. He was my R. before in the class. I did the responsible adult thing. I dropped them down after his pathetic. combined performance. However, he lands with Bashad White, who is a running back that I have very

little respect for as a rusher. I think he's a good receiving back. But I think that there's a chance that Irving just starts to look like he's moving in hyperspeed in the backfield as a processor compared to Rashad early in the season. And I've predicted that I think he's going to take over in terms of Carey's share starting in week 10. I'll say that he comes in as a sleeper this year that people are really excited to target for 2025. I love that. I'll probably be saying sell his ass because it's tiny and slow. No, I love that.

I drafted him on the only redraft team I've done this year for Ryan as that very potential type play. Speaking of, Ryan, who's yours? I feel like I probably should have come up with another one because we've just talked about this guy already on the show a bunch. I said Jaliel McLaughlin. He's going to be the fantasy MVP for the show. kind of for all the reasons and Lucas have already brought up like the Sean Payton offense is insane for running backs.

I had a Twitter thread a week or two ago kind of just musing about how the sort of the satellite running back in fantasy football has kind of been dead for the last three to four years just as the NFL has moved away from targeting the position. we've really only had Christian McCaffrey, Austin Echler, and Alvin Camara getting like real production through the air at the running back position. It used to be like you'd get your James White's, your Chris Thompson's, you could like scam your way to an RB2 and PR that way. I think Joliel McLaughlin, if anyone can do it this year, it's Joliel McLaughlin. Sean Payton has compared this guy to like, I don't know if he specifically said Darren Sproul's. It just, I just see it happening where McLaughlin gets like seven to eight checkdowns a game approximately and is just kind of a fantasy football hero. I don't know that he ever is capturing like a majority chair on the ground, but I still think he, in terms of like players, you can just draft extremely late who will actually help your team this year. He would be like at the top of my list.

yeah i i don't hate that put them on the thumbnail i should have do you guys want to hear kind of a funny statistic with chris thompson by the way the last time i rostered chris thompson

in dynasty was on my championship roster squad where he put up 9.2 fantasy points on championship weekend chris thompson score right which uh

would have helped you more that week than starting DJ Moore. Granted Moore got hurt, but still, think about that. And a world where Chris Thompson was more valuable than DJ more in the finals.

There's that. There's a little Chris Thompson news there. No, I don't, I think Jalil might have to be the thumbnail next week, given how much we are talking them up. One of everyone's favorites,

rookie of the year. And I think everyone here has selected some bangers. I think the easy, answer would have been Caleb Williams, but I like that none of us went there. So if you're expecting some Caleb Rookie of the Year talk,

not happening. We're going to start this one. This is a fantasy take, right? We're not picking the real life rookie of the year. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. These are all fantasy takes. These are fantasy takes. I think, no, I think Caleb Williams could be. I mean, the 101 pick goes out. If he sets the Bears franchise record, I can be a legitimate

case. But I'm glad that None of us actually went there. We do only have one quarterback, though, on this list. And that's courtesy of Ryan. So, Ryan, go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say I looked at your guys' picks. I was like, what, it's rookie the year. Why did nobody pick a quarterback?

I'm going to pick a quarterback. But also, I'm not going to pick Caleb Williams because that's boring. So I just kind of got by default, I landed on Jaden Daniels. I don't know. It's the same Jaden Daniels take that everyone's probably heard, 87 times this off season. But in case you haven't, one of the best runners we have seen come out at the college level with Cliff Kingsbury, whose offenses were like top of the league every single year in terms of plays for game. Kyla Murray is a rookie, like average a ridiculous amount

of rushing production with him. Yeah, it's just Jade and Daniels. And he's weird, as Tom and I were talking about on the tier stream this weekend weirdly affordable in dynasty. I don't know. Just in terms of what the expected production is this year, as opposed to even somebody like a Jordan Love or a Justin Herbert who are being drafted over him. I agree there's a reason both of those guys have more value insulation and security. But there are definitely builds you can do where it just makes a lot of sense to take Jaden Daniels in sort of a

win now startup and he also gives you that like an explosive upside of he could be a top six dynasty pick by this time next year. So yeah, Jayden Daniels, rookie of the year, fantasy real life, because by

default, he's the only quarterback on this list. So my chances are pretty good I think against the rest of these guys. So yeah, Jane and Daniels. I don't mind that. Again, fantasy football. I mean, I absolutely love agree. I do want to just dress this one.

Fantasy points YouTube regular ball list boys plumbing with Luke McCaffrey being named starter. How do you feel about him? Still love him. Love them on draft night. I'm the highest on Luke McCaffrey on this program have been since day one here and I continue to love him.

Gets a legitimate opportunity to be the number two there. Hey, I love it for him. Let's go rookie of the year. Let's go Lucas. So for mine, I was going for fantasy rookie year, but I also picked somebody who has a very real shot of being the actual

rookie of the year, not as a quarterback because I do think aside from Jane Daniels being most important for his team, I think that Malik Neighbors is arguably the most important player for the New York Giants this season. If we go in, just assuming that Daniel Jones is going

to be a train wreck, Malik Neighbors has the ability to carry this offense. He doesn't have to receive like the awesome high value targets. He's just going to get pepper with targets nonstop. Throw it to him behind the line of scrimmage. Fine.

He's going to just eat those up. Get a bunch of useless yards whenever it's in garbage time. But the real thing that makes him the rookie of the year and the MVP of the rookies is the fact that he is going a full round after Marvin Harrison, Jr. So I think that he can be the most productive rookie wide receiver that we have this season. and you aren't having to pay for like the iron price that you have to pay for for Marvin Harrison Jr. He also has the ability to raise in value going into next season, which I like. I don't think that there's a world where Marvin Harrison Jr. can go higher than he already is

at wide receiver 5 just with the depth that we have at that position. So I'm going to go with Malik neighbors. I love that pick. I really do. I'll go next here. I'm going to take another wide receiver. I'm going to say Brian Thomas Jr. And I'll tell you why. On the show with John Hansen, Brian Drake, and former NFL insider Adam Kaplan, he explained

why the signing of Gabe Davis doesn't matter for BTJ. They're different body types. They will have different roles. Everyone assumed that when they signed Gabe Davis, they were to just basically be the Spider-Man meme. Not true. If we expect Trevor

Lawrence to be healthy. And if we expect Trevor Lawrence to actually break out and be the prince that was promised and provide legitimate upside, I think it's going to be on the legs of not Christian Kirk or Evan Ingram. True upside is going to come with Brian Thomas Jr. The play action deep crosser, the same thing I mentioned loving out of Calvin Ridley and the Titans offense. Well, guess what? I love the same thing in Jacksonville. And Trevor Lawrence can hit those. Brian Thomas Jr. looked surprisingly good. He looked better. than I could have possibly expected during the preseason. He looks like a true capable alpha wide receiver one type.

Look, I love Christian Kirk, but we know what he is and we know what he isn't. And that alpha number one is not it. And personally, I would like to see fewer two-yard throws to Evan Ingram. And I would like to see more 14-yard throws to Brian Thomas Jr., who I did have above lad and worthy early on in this draft process. and I feel like a coward leaning off of it. I think Brian Thomas Jr. has a legitimate chance to post 1,1008.

And to me, if you're getting him as late as you are in Dynasty startups, to me, that screams fantasy rookie of the year. So BTJ. If it happens, Lawrence, I'm going to need you. Please, Trev. I love to hear that one. I'm going to see it with the wide receiver train. I'm going to go Xavier Worthy.

I just think he looks like he's locked into a big roach early. And with Hollywood Brown starting out the year, hurt for probably a couple of weeks here, it's just hard to be better set up than worthy is playing full route chairs as sort of the primary deep threat, Rice and Kelsey really running underneath with Patrick Bahomes in a year that it seems like the vibe around the Chiefs is we kind of got lucky last year doing the run the ball play defense thing. We're going to get back to being the real Chiefs again. We're going to throw the ball we're going to have fun worthy's a big part of that i'm not even like as convicted on worthy's talent as i am on other guys but the one thing i know with him for sure is like he has one or two big games

early in the season and the first segment on this show is going to be like how high are we ranking savior worthy and there's going to be people out there that are going to be pushing him into being worth first and a half two first two and a half first because you know there is no ceiling that's too high if you look like you're going to be a superstar playing with patrick mahomes the ceiling is just unmatched there. So I'm going to go for thee. I don't mind the pick at all. I think he's kind of the sleeper fantasy rookie the year to me because like you said,

I could see it going both ways completely. So I don't mind that. Yeah, Ryan, I can do that. Let's go with, we got two left. We've got the fantasy LVP and then the fantasy MVP. We're going to pick Super Bowl winner and NFL

MVP. So sit tight. We've got a little bit more to go here. Look, it's Week one, of course it was going to be a long episode. Like, what, are you kidding me? Okay, let's go Fantasy LVP. And I'm going to go last because I want to trigger Jacob here. So I want to go with Jacob first. All right.

This is the one that I'm going to put my nuts on the table here and take a risk. I'm not going to stand up. Be the guy that comes up to go, no, you Harris, whatever. I'm going to pick someone that has potential to actually light me up and make you look like an idiot here. I'm going to make a Cooper Cup. I was on record early in the season. I thought as early price was, to me, a smidgen too high for pretty much any format that's not like tournament-based cumulative scoring. Like, if we're talking about a game that involves playoffs, I personally value with that second, third round pick or in Dynasty, you know, you can make an analogous comparison.

An asset that's going to score well and then really have the chance for that big single week outside in the playoffs. and cup, I think you're taking on so much risk in terms of the player whose efficiency really declined last year down to 1.86 yards per row run from, you know, the stratosphere, dealt with all these injuries the last couple of years to go and take that risk on him. I just didn't think it was a well-calibrated bet. And then his ADP since then has jumped by like a round and a half in seasonal leagues. The point where he's going in the early second, people are picking him over Puka, which I think is like both simultaneously something that could happen pretty easily,

but I think is like crazy town as a process based on how good Puka was as a rookie and then CUP coming off of this successive period of decline in injury. So I think COP is like just the worst ADP currently in seasonal leagues of the first three rounds. Obviously I recognize the ceiling, but I think that the risk is not calibrated well to the bet. I'm going to pick him as the LVP. Yeah, I have CUP as a priority sell after week one when he plays healthy in Dynasty. if you haven't already. He's going to look pretty good.

He's going to look like a guy that people are really excited about victory laping. Week one, I think. I don't necessarily think that's pulled up. I think priority sell for sure. I mean, I've already sold for 27 firsts multiple times this offseason and a couple 26es.

I'm going to be locked in to get rid of the last like 6 to 7% that I'm holding bags of after he looks good week one or two. Ryan? Yeah, I'm looking at the names now and I feel like I went with like a bit of a cold take than you guys did. But we're going to go with Mike Evans as the LVP here. Want to be clear, this is very specifically not like a week one DFS or matchup take.

I really like him this week. Go play him in your battle royals and in your DFS lineups. But I just don't have any confidence in this box offense. I am seeing all the chatter about Godwin is going to be in the last. slot. He has just been so much better there over his entire career, to the point where up until kind of last year, his production was about the same as Mike Evans. And just seeing him as like a top few round redraft pick this year just rings really incorrect to me. And yeah, I guess I'll be wrong probably after week one, but I think the record will show I was correct eventually here. I think that's a fair take.

I mean, I jokingly said this the other day. He's got to fall off eventually that guy. I don't know when it's going to happen, but my God, man, 13 touchdowns again. No, I don't know. I don't know. No canales. I think there's a path here. And also, I mean, McMillan pretty pretty damn good on that outside.

Lucas is trying to get fired after just getting hired one day later on this program, but I'll hear it out. He's wrong, but I'll hear it out. So I'm not going for Trey McBride. All right. We'll not go after Tram McBride. I think Tray McBride. I think Tray McBride is going to be good. But my fantasy least valuable player is going to be Mr. Sam Leporta.

And so much of it has to do with where you were drafting him. What the opportunity cost is for taking him over some of the other running backs and wide receivers available in the third round. And he was like his best ability last season was his availability. That's why he finished tight end one. Yes, he had great volume stats. He had good efficiency. He played well, but I don't see.

The greatest titan season of all time for a rookie. Yeah. Kind of good. For a rookie. Is that good? For a rookie. But I do think that the talent at the titan position is going to work against him. There are really good titans in the league right now.

We are seeing almost a renaissance, as it were. And I think that there's a possibility he will not finish as one of the top six tight ends in fantasy football this season. I don't see double digit touchdowns again. there are a lot of balance to feed in that Detroit offense. And unfortunately, I think he's going to go a little bit further down the pecking order. Not saying that he's not going to be startable. He's not going to be a tight in one. Lucas Gilbert, biggest JMO guy that exists confirmed on this show.

It's more than is the Gibbs targets that scare me with him, honestly. 150 Gibbs targets. How many times have I talked about JMO on this show? I am curious now because I don't know where I got this. Our 27 in, folks. Let's keep her moving. I don't know where this is now coming from. I didn't think I was a J-Mo truther.

Similar to Ryan saying, I don't know how I became the Kenneth Walker guy, but here's all the reasons I like Kenneth Walker. I don't know. I don't know where that's coming through. But yeah, Sam LaForda. Just so you know you're fired. The first firing of the 2024 season.

Look, mine, I'm going to trigger Jake. up with this, but I have two reasons for this one. Lamar Jackson is going to absolutely shit the bed as the 105 in Dynasty startups right now. And I'll tell you why. There's backwards. There's annoying pessimism with your own team every year. There's some backwards. Especially when they're good.

Can I finish? Can I finish? No. Last time I said this, Lamar went out and won the MVP. So there's a little bit of a little bit of a rub of the. the genie here, but look, I'll tell you why. Never before has, have they have in the Lamar Jackson era, Derek fucking Henry. We're talking about the likelihood of less opportunity inside the 10 for Lamar than we have ever seen. They may never throw the ball inside the 10 when they have

Derek Henry out there. We already don't get enough rushing attempts inside the five from Lamar Jackson. I have been screaming about it. any chance where Lamar Jackson has fewer opportunities to score the big points that we need and also finally have a running back that they can just give the ball to 15 times in the second half when they're trying to bleed out a clock instead of the running back they use to bleed out the clock being Lamar Jackson can be a problem let's also not forget that Rashad Bateman is ass and not the fantasy points ass just strong. straight ass at the job that he has,

which is playing receiver. Zay Flowers doesn't have the upside. Like we are talking about needing a lot to happen when they just brought in the running back to signal that this is going to be his backfield. If they're leading, which I don't if you guys know this or not, but the Ravens lead pretty often in the regular season,

they could just bleed the clock out with the big dog. I mean, and look, if Derek Henry reaches his potential in Baltimore and score 17 rushing touchdowns for a player that relies on touchdown efficiency to hit his peak ceilings, it's going to hurt

Lamar whether we want to admit it or not. And you're drafting him at 105 in Dynasty. Yeah, to me, he's just going to be the biggest bust at his cost. I've said this for a long time. He's the worst elite asset to own in fantasy because he gives you like 12 points and then, but he'll give you like four 35s,

and it leaves you feeding for more. So to me, it's, it's Lamar Jackson at 105, simply because I really think Derek Henry scoring 17 rushing touchdowns this year. And it'll cap Lamar. There you go.

I said it. I said what I said. Now go win another MVP, Lamar. Let's go win another one. I said it last time. We got some magic. But if you really think about it,

it can make some sense. All right. It can. All right. positivity corner here. Positive. We're turning the positive. corner here. We're no longer tilting about the biggest touchdown vulture not named

Taysam Hill, which is going to be Derek Henry. But let's talk about the fantasy MVP. Let's do it right now. I'm going to turn this into a positive note. I'm going to go right away here. I'm going to say Kirk Cousins is the fantasy MVP. Not for the reason that you think. Kirk Cousins is going to finally distribute the ball to our players that we have been dying to see be successful. Kirk Cousin has the opportunity to finally give us elite Drake London, elite Kyle Pitts, and lead an elite offense is what we need for Bejohn Robinson upside.

It really has nothing to do with Kirk Cousins himself, though I think he's going to provide you great value for you, drafted him in Dynasty and what his cost is. But if Kurt Cousins turns our favorite, have-nots into finally top 10, top 12 options across the board, we are all going to be paying or offering to pay and donating for him to acquire more and more chains to wear around his neck because he will be my goddamn fantasy MVP for finally giving us upside in Kyle Pitts, Drake London, and Bejohn Robinson.

Salue to you, Kirk Cousins, my MVP. Jacob? This is going to be not surprising, and this will be the start of a theme for me over the next 10, 15 minutes of this program. C.J. Stroud, fantasy MVP, going to be the QB1 overall this year in six-point passing touchdown leagues,

going to set the all-time single-season passing yardage record, going to support three top 12 fantasy-wide receivers and everybody who's been drafting anyone on the Houston Texans, Vieto Collins, Tank Dell, Stefan Diggs, or C.J. Stroud himself will get to join

hand in hand and dunk all over the Dynasty Virgin. He's a pack of a quarter bit. You can't bring him. But he's a pocket quarterback. He's a pocket quarterback. Those people are going to get stuffed in a locker. It's C.J. Stroud S. Z.N. He's going to be the fancy MVP. He's going to bring everybody with them. Okay. I can, I mean, bold, bold.

But I can vibe. I can vibe. Ryan? All right. Another one that's not going to be surprising. So sorry if you're sick of hearing me. talk about this player. You guys are all lame. A good news item crossed my timeline about this player today. So I just had to talk about it.

Kenery. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm not literally Scott Barrett. Like, you can't do me like this. Come on. Yeah, anyway, Christian Watson has not missed a practice the entire summer. He hasn't missed a practice, guys. The entire narrative about his hamstring just being fixed.

because they are addressing the muscle imbalance or whatever it was that it's real. I'm convinced it's real at this point. That week one questionable report pregame is going to hit hard. Do not do that to me. Oh my God, Thomas. Ryan needs like ideal fantasy team has an 8 out of like 19. Like it's just Christian Watson, Rashid Jehid. Like I didn't realize like how.

Like the platonic ideal of a Ryan Heath like NFL offense is just, all go every single play. No, I hadn't quite thought of it this way, but you might be right. I'm scrolling up and down my, like, my must draft players list. Go check that out on FantasyPoints.com if you haven't read it and you still have your drafts going. Yeah, yeah, that kind of checks out. I'm going to be honest.

So Christian Watson, last time we saw him healthy, like actually healthy. for an extended stretch. He was top 10 in yards per outrun among all rookies. That whole list is just all-time greats at the position. I think he has that upside. I've seen some snarky comments in the chat tonight about how no one's going to separate in the Packers Receiving Corps. I feel like that idea right in itself just tells me that we should be targeting players

in this Packers Receiving Corps. if we all think that each of or even that any of them are individually good bets based on the talent, we probably want to take those bets in the ambiguous situations that that's just where the lead winning types of players tend to come from. So yeah, give me Christian Watson, fantasy MVP. I'll be completely insufferable if he even has like one incredible game. I'll make sure to get the victory lap then. Well, if he has one incredible game and then not a.

again, it'll be like the, you know, the standard for his career. So, I mean, really, you get the victory lap everything we've already known. Hey, let's go, Lucas. No, 15.4 fantasy points for game when he's over a 60% route share. That is more than any other wide receiver in his draft class to be quick. How often does that happen? That only excludes 83% of games that he leaves injured. Oh, my God.

I don't think he beat the Will Fuller allegations. this year. So we'll see if it happens. We all have one great season of Will Fuller. Maybe Christian Watson could put it together one time. Yes. People say Will Fuller as if he didn't. And then sign a contract, mysteriously hurt his finger and then retire without anyone knowing.

Who knows what's going to happen? Lucas, finish this off. Fantasy MVP. Let's go, baby. Fantasy points on Thanksgiving and then just basically never played again. Right. Let's go with. Lucas, where you should.

where check your pockets buddy check here uh he said he's lost his microphone that can happen every now and then we're going to get him back eventually uh someone said let lucas cook that's so that's so fucking funny to me all right let's go who's going to win the super bowl uh let's go with that and then we'll hopefully get lucas back here for the back half uh let's go with jacob who's winning the super bowl i mean look i'm going to stay right on brand here. It's going to be, well, I'm going to say that the Green Bay Packers are going to come out of the NFC with Howard, of course, by wide receiver one, Don Tavian Wicks, and Jordan Love, and this awesome offense that's, you know, redistributing wealth among

their wide receivers better than Carl Marks could have ever imagined. But they're not going to win the Super Bowl. They're going to lose in the Super Bowl to, of course, Mr. Coleridge, Bernard, Stroud the fourth and the Houston Texans will be winning a thrilling Super Bowl 35 to 31. Jordan Love gets the ball back with 30 seconds left. He looks deep down the field. He's open.

It's Christian Watson, but he pulls a hamstring and comes up 10 feet short of the ball. It falls helplessly to the turf and the Texans are your Super Bowl champions. You're just drinking whatever sauce. I think that's kind of insane. No 49ers or Chiefs this year in the Super Bowl is kind of nuts.

Ryan? Yeah, I would see, my pick was also going to be to like needle Jacob a little bit, but I can't beat like that picture he just painted. So it's just going to come off as like hating and lame now. So I'm to hate away. I appreciate hating. Hating is the greatest form of flattery. Okay.

So I'm taking the chiefs as the winner just because I want to be right. That's kind of all there is to that one. Yeah, I know. I know, Jacob, don't you hate that that I want to be right? And then, but on the other side, so the Chiefs are winning the Super Bowl, but I'm going to say the lions are coming out of the NFC, and I'll just give the MVP take now. It's going to be the Jared Gough MVP season to make Jacobs just eyebrows absolutely fall off

his face like they look like they're about to do right now just at the thought of Jared Gough. The Jared Gough is actually really good discourse. Not going to like. We kind of got last year, but it, this discourse always reaches another level when the quarterback gets to a Super Bowl. Like, never mind, like, wins a Super Bowl. That would just be, like, totally code red.

It just gets to the Super Bowl, like, wins a playoff game. Let's say he, he leads a game-winning drive against the 49ers in the NFC. championship and we get to hear about how Jared Goff's actually the real deal for two weeks all the way up through the media run until the Super Bowl when we have nothing better to talk about so that that's what I'm envisioning that's awesome by the way I assume it was implied in everything that I've been spouting the last 50 minutes but my MVP pick is CJ straight okay that's fair Lucas hasn't fixed his shit yet but he wants a Bengals 49ers Super Bowl so he just typed it to me in the

private chat. Not an 80s Super Bowl. That would very much be a rematch of a very old Super Bowl. Fun pick. He got one of the teams right, but he got the AFC team wrong. MVP, Brock Purdy is going to walk into the Super Bowl with the San Francisco 49ers as Jacob walks into oncoming traffic hearing me scream about it all the way across the country and they lose to the

a fc champion baltimore ravens as lamar jackson gets over the hump in the a fc championship game i said it was going to be a fantasy bust he could he could legitimately be a back to back MVP with the way this team is run i'm gonna i'm gonna finally say it i've never guessed the ravens on this show in the super bowl because as our comment section has figured out. I don't hate your favorite team because I hate my own. Yeah, Ravens over the 49ers as they

dogwalk them like they did on Christmas last year, beating 20 NFL MVP 2024 Brock Purdy in the Super Bowl as Shanahan continues to never win the big game. So there you go. Big shocker.

Lucas says he thinks he hasn't fixed. I think I have it fixed. Yeah. We got him back. We got them back. Give us your regular season MVP and your fantasy MVP. We got your Super Bowl pick in here. Okay.

So my fantasy MVP, Devon, A-Chane, I think that Thomas's reasons are dumb whenever he plays and he gets just over 40. Get his ass. Yeah. You forget that I can hit the mute button. Well, I was just going to say that whenever he has over 40% of his snaps, all but once, he has eclipsed over 12 fantasy points per game and he has equipped over 20 and 5 out of 11 times. That's including a game where he immediately left because he was injured. I'm sorry that it's a fun whenever people make plays and score you lots of fantasy points

and have ridiculous touchdowns. Like, it's amazing and it's fun and your game came in the third round. Actually, at the very beginning of the fourth round in Dynasty as the RB8, you want that on your roster. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. I think this is the only time Jacobs ever actually cheered me on going after Thomas.

So I'm loving it. And then actual envy. You start with one in the five for five. You're starting at one. Oh, okay. Get, get out of here. That is awesome. The only rule of five or five is that I make all the rules.

Terrible. I do think that this is the year, though, that Josh Allen will break through for the NFL MVP. VP. I think people are just going to see how ridiculous he is in Buffalo, even with like the lack of talent. I think that even if there are people that emerge for Buffalo, just going in with that perception that he has no help is going to really help his case. So that is going to be my NFL MVP pick. Well, I mean, without Stefan Diggs, I might finally stop letting him throw as much as he did so he won't turn the ball over like 21 times a year. So he might actually put himself in real legitimate contention with.

Boomer. also the other hub harbaugh is in the conference not the division and also the chargers i have news for you going to be ass not not truly concerned also my harbaugh one and no versus brother harbaugh in games that matter so there you go let's just settle that debate lucas nfl mvp oh i gave you it Give it to it. Oh, did you? Oh, Josh Allen. That's right.

You snuck that in those big reading our chat. That's on me. I think it's five for five time. We've been here for a while, but we're still going to give you five for five because we're that fucking dedicated. So there we go. All right, guys. Let's get into it. We're going to take a quick break.

We've come back because five for five time the last one of the year. I've already secured the most wins on this panel for this. But this one is for you guys. It won't be three to this time, I promise. Jacob, let's explain five for five for those who may be new here. All right, really quick, I'm going to do five players. They all have a unifying theme. Each of the players has up to five clues that I'm going to read.

They all get a chance to guess after each clue. The amount of points they get declines the more clues that I give. At the end, we will total up the points, and that person will be the winner. All right. This week, the theme is week one superheroes. So these are all players who had a massive week one fantasy performance that was exceptionally memorable. Okay? We're right on the brink of week one.

So first player, this player has the most passing yards in a week one in NFL history. Payton Manning. Incorrect. Really? That Ravens game was an absolute. He has the most passing touchdowns. I'll give you that. Anybody else?

No. Ryan is it. It's Winston. Oh, incorrect. Okay, Lucas, you get first guess next. Okay, this game occurred between the Rams and the New York Yanks. I'm just going to say Eli Manning for kicks and giggles. Incorrect.

The New York Yanks? That's correct. Okay, so this is something like, you said L.A. The Yanks. He said this is going to be something like Y.A. Tittle. incorrect but I like where you're going there Ryan you got a guess here

I don't think so I'm just really confused right now the yanks all right all right this this was supposed to be the first clue I gave my bad it's supposed to be the first clue of all the clues but this player's week one fantasy performance equated to 39.86 fantasy points sorry that's supposed to be clue one for all of them all right I'm assuming that's not going to help if we didn't get the first one

we got Rams and Yanks we got all time week one pass yardage record. We got 39.86 fantasy points per game. All right. This one might be the kicker. His week one fantasy performance was not only the NFL record for week one passing yards, but still stands today as the all-time NFL record for passing yards in a single game. Yeah, it's, um, oh my God.

Oh, my God. I know who it is because I've played Madden so much. It's not Sammy Ball. I can go, right? Because Lucas passed. Come on, you guys. Luke has passed, right? I guess and got wrong.

Norm Van Brocklin. That's correct. Thank you. Two points to Tom. Lucas has one. Play more Madden. If you go to Madden and go to records and check single game, that's where he'll pop up. I'll give anyone who wants to guess.

And for the record, I knew just without looking it up. I'll give you three bonus points. If you can tell me how many passing yards he had that day. I think it's 563. Really close. Three, two. one, 554 is the end.

All right. Truly insane that that record is still alive today, that is the passing NFL of today, that we still have a 73-year-old record for most passing yards of a single game. Okay, this player scored 42.8 ppr points as a running back.

42 ppr points as a running back in week one is insane. I'm going to say with Danube Tomlinson, just as a wild guest. it's a good guess it's incorrect Jamal Charles incorrect let's just go with a funny one

Eddie Lacey incorrect that is funny that's actually pretty funny I like that we might get it right here I'm predicting that we're going to get on this clue his week one performance

was especially notable as fantasy drafters were trepidacious in the first game of his second season off of a breakout UDFA rookie campaign James Robinson incorrect we're looking for an undrafted free agent

and put up 42.8 fantasy points in week one of his second season. All right, seeing nothing, two, one. All right, anybody but Tom can guess

on the start of this clue. Okay? This player put up 42.8 points in a week one matchup that is also on this year's schedule. Oh, that is a tough one. That is a tough one.

Wow. Like this year's week one schedule? Oh, it's in week one. Okay, okay. Okay, yeah. I was about to say this really doesn't help it. On this year's week one schedule,

it's the same matchup as one of the 16 that we're getting here. Arian Foster. That's correct. Oh, wow. I just needed, I needed one more, I needed one more guess. I just three points for Ryan. One point for Lucas,

two points for Tom. We're going to question number two. Three. Oh, no. Three. Yeah, this is three. All right. Damn.

This player in week one had 28 fantasy points as a tight end. I'm going to guess Jordan Thomas. That is incorrect. That's a damn good guess. It is a good guess. Any points in week. It's incorrect. Wouldn't it be Reed?

Isn't it Jordan Reed? Gordon Reed is also incorrect. Delaney Walker. That is incorrect. Clue number two. This game occurred in the first game of the 2013 NFL season on Thursday night football. Julius Thomas. That's correct.

No, I screwed up the wrong name. No. I know. Wow. I was trying to give it away. I was like, Jordan, Thomas is incorrect. I thought the same thing. I thought Jordan Reed when you said that.

Sounds like it would be obscure. I could have banged on that one. I had the first name right. I was just making of Julius Thomas. You want to know the embarrassing thing here is that I had just seen a post about Julius Thomas whenever I was doing some looks at Peyton Manning. And for life of me, I just, I couldn't remember. Wow. Famously caught the record breaking touchdown from Peyton Manning that same year.

Fort the year after. I can't remember. A fumble by Lucas Gilbert. Yeah. Appreciate that. Lucas. We got six points for Tom. We got three for Ryan.

and we got one for Lucas. Number four, this player had a whopping 46.8 fantasy points in his week one performance. Sammy Watkins. That is exactly correct, five points. Unfortunate that I can't give clue to, which would have given it away, but it's just such a ridiculous stat that I had to share it. He hits 46.8 fantasy points in week one of 2019. He hits over 14 fantasy points twice more for the rest of his career and both of them happen in the next two week once. Truly a one of a kind player, week one, Sammy Watkins.

Tom is up by a lot. He's at 11. Lucas is at three or sorry, Ryan's three. Lucas is at one. But that's okay because it's going to be triple points for the final clue. So you guys, Lucas used to get this on the second clue. Ryan can get this on the third clue. Tom, of course, just needs to get it on any clue

or for Lucas and Ryan not to get it by clue three. All right. This is ass. This player has 43.7 PPR points in week one of 2003. Repeat the amount of points? In week one of 2003, he had 43.7 PPR fantasy points. I'm going to pass this.

I don't want to risk it, but I think I know who it is. I don't know how many players I could name that played in 2003 Okay Here's the crazy one Not only was this week one of his season It was the first game of his NFL career 2003 I know I have to guess

I'm waiting on Thomas to make his guess Incorrect I know he had three touchdowns I could just kind of A 2003 rookie That was 20 I'm going to guess Priest Holmes Incorrect right fun fact about priest homes he has a super bowl in with the 2000

baltimore ravens yeah there you go lucas eliminated ryan can wait for one more clue if he wishes it looks like that's what he's going to do all right this player is the only player in nfl history to have hit 200 receiving yards twice on week one doing it again 10 years later in 2013 oh wow oh that should help me 2003 thank juan bolden 23 that's correct Thomas has got it with a dominating performance. 14 points for Thomas. 3 for Ryan Heath. One for Lucas Gilbert.

Thomas, fun, fun fact. Last five for five of the offseason, you're going out on top. How's it feel? It feels great. Fun fact about Anquan Bolden, that he was actually a better rookie wider seer than Larry Fitzgerald was in his career.

He also came back from a broken jaw, which was an absolute cheap shot. Anquon Bolden also should have been the Super Bowl run MVP. of the Ravens in 2012, because without him, we don't make it. He should also be in the Hall of Fame. And anyone who disagrees, hashtag doesn't know ball. I'm victorious and useless football information once again. You guys have an entire season to study useless football information.

And I hope that you make it a challenge for me going in to next off season. I'm the champ. That's what's up. It's been two hours. Let's wrap it up. also five for five is the best fantasy football quiz show we do need an episode with joe dolin next year because it's got to be like a stump the Schwab style situation that dude knows everything about football um let's go let's get there's so much content going out

jacob you just did a massive update for thinking about thinking couple late nights in a row what he got yeah man i did lots of content up but think about thinking over the last few days so make sure to check that out. I have fully updated dynasty rankings. I have my annotated running back tiers where I have buy cell designations, player asset classifications, little notes, thoughts on each player. I dropped one final take for all 32 NFL teams. And then I also dropped my preseason hitchhiker's guide to running back. I ranked all of the streaming candidates for week one. I talked about what I expect the week one role to be, how I expect that to evolve and laid out the plan of the column for the rest of the year.

And then lastly, I just want to shout out Austin in the chat. Was the first one to get on Anquan Bolden. So shout out Austin. I'll give you some five or five points. And we hope to see you here throughout the rest of the year. That's right. He's like Anquon Bolden is so good. He's absolutely so good.

Ryan, you have a lot coming out? I do, yeah. So first I got to plug ads. It's going to be a big reveal at, some point very, very soon. So make sure you're keeping it locked to my, to my Twitter feed, to the Fantasy Points Twitter feed. Going to be a lot of ass coming across your timeline. Very, very soon, I can promise. Aside from all of that, I have advanced matchups coming out on hopefully Friday morning, probably Friday morning, we'll save for that. Advanced matchups for your

DFS lineups for Underdog Battle Royals. just kind of a weekly column deep diving into some of the coverage shells, some of the man zone splits, kind of all the super nerdy stuff that you can pull out of the Fantasy Points data suite to get an edge in prop betting in weekly DFS, whatever it may be. And then also Friday night, as Thomas mentioned earlier, who is still completely apoplectic at the ass joke that I made. But Friday nights right here on the Fantasy Points YouTube channel,

channel 830 Eastern Time every single Friday night this season. I will be live with Mr. Jake Tribe. We will be breaking down the underdog Battle Royale slates. For anyone who's never played battle royale, it's basically a cross between best ball and DFS. Thomas's two favorite formats that I know he's very excited to produce for us this year. So essentially you just get into a quick underdog draft, like a five, ten minute underdog draft and that's your lineup that you play in a tournament style contest for like the Sunday main slate. So it's a lot of fun. There's a big edge. I think it's way easier to win in that

than especially in some of these bigger DFS tournaments, just a lot less, I would say, sharp lineups as a percentage of the field. So I think it's really fun. I think it's a pretty good plus EV way to spend your money this fantasy season. So, yeah, again, 8.30 Eastern Time. Every Friday night, Jake and I will be live. And the Discord channel for that is free. All you need is a free subscription. And you can get in on that, Lucas.

Yeah, so I've got some fun things coming up with war throughout the season. I'll be doing that for fantasy points. And I'm really excited to be able to do that. Should have some articles coming out throughout the season two about some high value plays throughout the season using war as the baseline and working on some potential lineup optimizers for DFS we shall see where those get to though but have a lot of things in the work it's been a long long off season of just coding a bunch of stuff that I don't know how it do and seeing what will eventually work so I'm happy that these seasons actually here to see

if any of the stuff actually works so I'm pumped it's it's definitely going to work I'm excited that we didn't scrap the war tool, and I'm very happy that you redid it. I laughing so hard, my glasses are fogging up for those listening. You can actually see how far. The last person I expected to make a butt plug joke in this group was Ryan, and I was not prepared. I'm crying, and I thought I was going to pass out for a minute. Truly incredible content. Just to be clear, I didn't even do that on purpose.

I realized about 10 seconds after I said it. It was just the best. We got to plug the ass. We got to plug the ass. It's just the way you kept on going to. Just like, yeah. I get like halfway through the plug and I look up and all of you are like on the floor. Like, oh man, I got to keep this one moving here.

I can't even wear my glasses because they keep fogging up. Like this is it truly incredible. how much I absolutely love this program. There is no show like it. I can't... Audio listeners are getting screwed this way. I can't... Please, please go and watch the YouTube show.

We're going to put that bit in the timestamps. You need to watch it. That specific joke is going in the timestamps. I truly incredible. I love this program. I'm excited for year five of this show. I am excited for officially year one here on this show

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