Fantasy Football Daily - 2024 Senior Bowl Day 1 Fantasy Recap

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

Fresh in from Day 1 of the 2024 Senior Bowl (@seniorbowl) practices, Joe Dolan (@FG_Dolan) and Brett Whitefield (@BGWhitefield) offer their immediate observations on the fantasy-relevant skill players who stood out the most. SIGN UP FOR FANTASY POINTS IN 2024 AT OUR EARLY-BIRD RATE, INCLUDING OUR NEW ALL-IN PACKAGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I have been listening to Take Talk for, what, two years now, I've been working with you for close to three years. This is the first time I'm sitting face to face with Brett Whitefield. In this day and age, you meet somebody even after two years after if you work with them. And the cool thing is, oh, I'm doing it on in case you didn't know my voice. But the cool thing is with meeting Brett right now is I could see him in his element for the first time. I don't know. It's like if the first time I ever met Mick Jagger was on stage with the Rolling Stones, you know,

not just like shopping for groceries or something. It's good to be with everybody here on the Fantasy Points podcast. We are in Mobile, Alabama for the 2024 Senior Bowl. And as they say here at the Senior Bowl, the draft starts in Mobile, Brett Whitefield. We just finished up watching day one of the practices for both the national and the American team. And we're going to talk about, we're going to take a narrower focus on this podcast. It is a fantasy football podcast. So we're going to focus on the skill position players.

Brett is going to watch tape on all the players, including offensive linemen, and the defensive players, and those will be in the Fantasy Points Prospect Guide at some point later this spring, Brett. But we were really focusing on the skill position players today. It was a warm day in Mobile. I look like Aaron Eckhart in the dark night right now because we were sitting on the same side of the field and the sun was coming down just on our left side. I have a little bit of color. I probably should have packed some sunscreen. How are you doing today, my friend?

We got a lot of good observations here for one of the year. Yes, we do. I'm doing great, Joe. This is awesome, getting to sit in the same room with you. You know, that's like almost better than the senior bowl itself, honestly. Wow. I don't know if I go that far. My big observation of the day, though, is that the sun really likes you.

Yeah. You are dark. I'm darking up a little bit too. I have this really hilarious sunburn spot on my head where my hat didn't have any, you know, shade protection. So we're doing good though. So the weather, so the weather, this is your first time down on Mobile for the senior world. The weather here is really hit or miss. Like there's years it will be 40 degrees in rainy.

There's years it will be 80 and sunny. Today was probably perfect. 65, 70 degrees sunny. Good ask for weather. So, yeah. I mean, it's going to be beautiful tomorrow too. I'm actually leaving tomorrow. I have some prior engagements.

Hopefully my mom's not listening to this podcast because the prior engagement is we made a, did a 70th birthday party for my mom. And she's going to be surprised to see us. I don't think she's going to listen to this. But I hope she doesn't go to the gym tomorrow and decide to turn on the podcast. Anyway, I think you'll be back with Scott Barrett tomorrow to break down day two. And then we'll talk about day three, maybe next week, once we get all of our observations together. But just just for the format of this podcast and so people who are listening know, I guess we're going to try this. This is going to, it's hard to make this a dynasty podcast from a fantasy perspective, simply because we don't know where these players are going.

And it's so landing spot dependent because I think a lot of the players here at the Senior Bowl of the skill position players, not including quarterbacks, because I think a couple of the quarterbacks we saw today are going to be in the first round conversation, if not more than a couple of the quarterbacks we saw today. It's actually a really good group of quarterbacks, none of whom really stood out, but we'll talk about that later. I don't know if there's any real first round skill. position guys here at the senior bowl at the running back wide receiver tight end position certainly not the tight end position i don't think um wide receiver maybe some of these guys sneak in but this is mostly going to be i think day two and three guys but quite frankly brett there were some really

interesting performances we saw here and most of that to me as a first time senior bowl goer was in the morning practice i think that's just a coincidence it's not that the morning practice is always stronger I just felt like there were more standout offensive players on the national team in the morning. Yeah, for sure. When I looked at the way the rosters broke down, like the national roster, for example, it naturally did have more talent at wide receiver. And when you're scouting skill players, you're going to gravitate towards those wide receiver DB one-on-one. So it was pretty easy to be like kind of blown away.

The receiver is definitely at the best of that DB group. No doubt about that. But, I mean, you're talking 5 and 6 day 2 receivers in that group. So it just looked awesome. Let's start with that wide receiver position. We'll get to the quarterbacks because it is a very good group, as I mentioned. But your guy coming into today, and you told me you, let's just put it out there.

You're playing the game. You told me you purposely did not rank Ricky Pearson from Florida as your number one receiver because he wanted the opportunity to move him up. This is true. The first rep I saw him take in one-on-ones, he slipped, and we were like, uh-oh, like non-contact. It's the field turf or the artificial turf. You're like, oh, no, you never want to see that. He kind of got up gingerly.

Then he walked back to the position group, the layup line, if you want to call it like that. And all he did the rest of the one-on-one session was win. He was, this is a guy who he's got decent size to him. You think he has some inside outside versatility. And he was winning in the short, the intermediate, the deep. I think he had Penn State corner Kaling King and a grinder a couple of times. Ricky Pearsall from Florida to you and to me, and you have the better trained eyes, a winner from day one of the senior bowl here.

Yeah, I think regardless of what position they play, skill or D-line, O-line, I think he was the standout player today. Like he stole the show. He put the rest of the senior bowl guys on notice, especially that DB room. He looked phenomenal. You talked about the versatility, like the 6-195 pounds-ish with a really good wingspan.

Like I think he can play outside. Today they have seven-on-seven in a team workout. They're using it mostly in the slot. But, you know, Florida used him that way as well, but he can definitely weigh in the outside. You saw it in the one-on-ones. He's got the speed to stack, get off the rest, generate separation.

He's a separatist, as Hanson would call him. I mean, he dominated on it. Absolutely dominated outside of that first rapper he slipped. So you have a term that you use for Ricky Pearsall. And you drafty types, you love coming up with descriptive terms that I think you instantaneously know what they mean, even if you've never heard it before. You say he has arrogant hands. Yeah.

Can you describe arrogant hands and how Ricky Pearsall uses them? arrogant hands, I describe it as simple as this. There is not a ball. If he can get to it where he doesn't think he can't catch it. It does not matter where that ball is, where it's located. And then when he does it, when he does make the catch inevitably, he doesn't act like it's anything new. It doesn't really celebrate.

It just kind of gets up. Go put on his Charlotte tape. He is, I showed you to play today where he's running up the seam. It's the OBJ play all over again. goes up with one hand, plucks the ball to the air while getting absolutely demolished by safety. Pangs out on the ball. It doesn't even tell where he just gets up, dogs back to the huddle. That's what I need to air.

He knows his hands are bad and he flunts. Bad as in good. Yes. Yeah. We ought to clarify that. So I want to bring up a player who stood out to me immediately. He's a guy you didn't actually have ranked terribly highly of this group, Brett. but I think he's a player who in the right situation could become a real difference maker.

Everybody's always looking for Debo Samuel, right? If there's one of this group at the Senior Bowl, I think it's Malachi Corley from Western Kentucky. And I think, I believe he took either the first or second rep of 1B1s. And the first thing I saw was the corner was pressing him. Corley went right up into his face and pushed him off. He's like, get out of my way. I'm going to catch this ball, ran a quick slant, got wide. open. He calls himself on his Twitter feed. He was actually, it's funny, I mentioned how Malachi

Corley was very impressive after the catch. He ended up retweeting that. After practice, he must have gone to look for his press club. He must have felt like he had a great practice. Because I don't think he's going to name search if you didn't think he had a great practice. And he retweeted it. And on his Twitter feed, he calls himself the yak king. Like, so that's what he calls himself. And I can see that. And he has, what I call the Golden Tate build. He's got a great lower body, but he's shorter and he's stout. So I feel like that's kind of the prototype.

We actually came to Western Kentucky as a running back. I feel like what I saw today show the versatility that you probably want to keep him at receiver in the NFL. I think he's got that kind of skill. But Malachi Corley was a winner today in my mind, what I saw was from Daywana Practices. For sure. When you, for those listening, he's 510, 215 pounds.

So when you talk short and stocky, for the receiver position, that's unheard of. That's like extra next level short and stocky. But to your point, Joe, you know, if you guys read my senior bowl primer, you'll see. It came out this morning, so it's not like you miss it. If you do go keep it, I give a nice anecdote in there about Terry McLaren and kind of the purpose of the senior ball practices. One of the things I'm always looking for is can a guy show me a. skill he didn't have an opportunity to show me in college. And Malachi, Corley did that for me today. Coming into the week, I thought he was just a yak guy.

You're going to scheme up a lot of stuff for him. Not really a nuanced route runner coming from that Western Kentucky offense. Well, he got to prove me a little bit wrong today. His ability to get off press was a skill he added that I didn't know that he had. And he did it with these. He displaced coverage multiple times of one-on-ones. The coaches made a concerted effort to get him those press looks. You know, coming from that, you know, Y, KU, offense, Joe. He played just a lot of space, a lot of scint touches. We see a lot of received out of that offense. We're catching 100 to the last year. And he's the next guy up. But man, getting off across over to something most other guys were able to do. He showed me a still today

that I didn't know he had him for that. I think he's going to come up a little bit higher on my list. You know, he stood out to me a little bit more than Roman Wilson of Michigan did. But from the observers that I've been looking at just their their first reactions. Roman Wilson was a guy who really stood out. They, you know, he looked a little smaller to me than he's, his measured size. I think he measured in at like 511 somewhere around there, 180 some pounds. Do you have the official weight for Roman Wilson? Yeah, it's like 510 and 6 eighths and 186 pounds. Okay, so they listed them at Michigan at 6 foot 195. There's always a little give and take. He actually looked even smaller than that to me.

But this is a player you really like, somebody who probably profiles more as a slot in the NFL, but the thing about him that coaches are probably going to love. Number one, you mentioned this to me when we were sitting in the stands. Michigan guys in the passing game, you have to grade them on a curve statistically because they were a run first team. But seeing as they were a run first team, Roman Wilson was a part of that.

It is coached into their DNA that you've got to go chew on a face mask every now and again in the run game. And that playing personality kind of shows up with him and not necessarily from the type of player that he physically is, that kind of playing personality that he has. Absolutely. He's feisty across the board. I mean, shoot, Joe, even that contested catching made down on the sidelines. Like, you would not, I'll try to paint the picture, but basically caught a ball between safety and corner. He's got a safety draped all over him. the quarter literally ripping at the ball as he's coming down with it, you know, on the sideline. And he held down the ball.

That's really not typical for a 5, 10, 185 pound receiver to be able to come down with that pass. And he did it. And, you know, one of the things with the Michigan guys or anyone that plays in an offense is like, there's just no volume there. There's not a lot of rape tape. You know, he's running 20 to 25 routes he came. He's run blocking for us. So, yeah, Roman, this was a big week for him. big opportunities for him to come and show that he's not just, you know, a speed being in a low volume

offense. He actually ran some routes was good at the catch point. Another guy that I think added some value to his resume today. Let's focus on one more wide receiver. We're going to talk two more wide receivers positively. I'm going to save the best for last because I want the Scott Barrett, Brett Whitefield Ward a similar a little bit. The first is Jerry's kid. Brendan Rice out of U.S. yes, Jerry Rice's son. I'm going to say body type, not similar. Brendan Rice is bigger than Jerry Rice.

He had a good day, though. There were some up and down for Brendan Rice out of USC though. Yeah, so Rice is a guy. Like, I didn't love his college tape, to be honest. He has moments. A lot of contested catchability, you know, really strong at the catch point, stuff like that. It's kind of awkward in a U.S. offense that really predicates itself on space,

getting guys. So for that body, and that skill set to work, it's just kind of awkward on paper. So today he comes in, you know, you see the side, he really does pop off, you know,

we weren't watching paper, pops off the field when you watch him. He is big, he has a presence, 6-2-15, you know, really long arms. Like,

you can definitely, he sticks out like a slowdown. And he uses that size that, that's awesome, a contested situation today. Really, really strong and things through contact.

No, I don't love, you know, we talk about areas to improve. I didn't love his ability getting off press today. He was really reluctant with his hands, kind of had his hands gone on his waist off him. He was trying to get off

press. So he's got some technique stuff to clean up, but given the bloodline, I'm going to, you know, surely better to work on that. But the route running was really, really good compared to what I saw on tape. So, you know, the Lincoln rally offense, it's not a lot of nuanced route running. It's a lot of overroutes, a lot of

screens, verts. I started on a clinic today for a bigger body receiver. I thought he moved really well. Let's focus on another bigger body receiver. This might be more on the negative. He had a really tough year at North Carolina because Devontes Walker, Tess Walker, as he goes by. He had an eligibility issue.

He really didn't get cleared until midway through the season. You want to talk about a guy who pops off the field in terms of his size, but there was certainly some struggles, a little baby giraffe to him. I thought, on the other hand, you see the size. was also the fastest skill player by GPS in the morning practice. So when you see the size of a Tes Walker, maybe the relative lack of experience, given the fact that he missed half the season, there's going to be something for teams to like. But I think I'd like to see more from Tes Walker going forward here.

Yeah, for sure. So, like, I think the one thing that was a little surprising is the, if you've never watched an NFL practice or a college practice, like they do these one-on-one drills, these periods, where the drill is really, the deck is stacked against the defensive backs. Like it is designed to make the receivers look good. And even despite that, Tess couldn't really get anything going

in the short intermediate part of the game. Like those short routes, he was getting jammed up in the line of scrimmage. You mentioned the baby deer element to it. He just looked a little uncoordinated, lack of nuance and precision with his route running. All that was a minute. When you see him on a hurdle,

like, holy crap. The guy is speed for days, the ability to stack DBs, get him uncomfortable, threaten that outside shoulder. Like all of that is excellent, his ball tracking ability. So it's like he no doubt is going to get a big opportunity in the NFL just because of that package alone. The question is, is like, is he capped at just being a deep threat only guy or can he

develop his game a little bit to kind of become a more, you know, I guess a high volume type receiver? Let's get into the guy who is going to be, I think, the model of the analytic models versus the tape guy. the football guys player this year. That's going to be Ladd McComkey, the receiver from Georgia. Every day, I consider you a tape guy. We've been spending a lot of time with our guy, Fran Duffy from the Philadelphia Eagles.

Dane Brueger was sitting there today. The film guys freaking love Ladd McConkey. Adore him. The analytical guys are going to see a late breakout age. They're going to see not the greatest size, not the greatest movement, not the greatest production and there is going to be a divide between I think

I already said the Scott Barrett, Brett Whitefield war you like to say you won all those wars last year of your guys versus his guys but I think there is going to be a storm brewing here Vlad McConkey to these eyes was a pretty freaking good receiver here on day one of the senior ball

yeah and when you talk about how lackluster the second practice was he was you know a bright spot considering he was kind of guy we were all like oh McConkey's on our side. Yeah. Like everybody was like,

that's the guy I want to watch. Yeah. And from the very first rep of the day for him, he dominated. And I think Sands Ricky Purcell, he probably had the best day of practice. I mean, he was awesome.

What I love about him is there's really not anything he can't do. He can get vertical. He's just such a route technician. You trust him to get separation on just about any route. He's a separatist, again, as Mr. Hansen would say. All the tape,

all the traits you look for, he's there. I am the early comp I've thrown out and it's a dangerous one because this could come back to haunt me one day but it's from him wait no that's not allowed Brett I don't think Amon Ra's white

I don't think you're allowed to do that funny everyone at the stands trying to search for a comp for him they're all name of white guys and I'm like well how about Amonra Amonra he's mixed you know he's mixed his mom is white so it's close I don't know I just see the similar movement

similar like the technician element to it. I see all of that. I just feel like that's the game he should model his game after he already has to an extent. So I've seen the one of the clips. It was on the far, it was on the far side line. So if you were watching the senior bowl on NFL network, it was on, to me, the far side line would have been the right sideline. He would have been going up to the right side of the offensive formation. And he, and he just completely set up a defensive back subtly, but the defensive back basically kept dropping. And McConkey, not only did he run kind of an out, but he also pulled the route back towards the quarterback a little bit, just creating that extra yard or two. He was already

wide-ass open, but just became more wide-ass open. And I think Mr. Duffy was sitting there while we were watching that. He said, I think he just said, take your breakout age and shove it with that route. Yes. It was, there was a couple of those routes where I feel like that's the area where he's going to win is more of the intermediate, but you think he can get deep, too. Yeah, he can't. I mean, he was, well, so when I throw the Amon Raq comp out there, by the way, I'm talking, when I watched Amon Rao's college tape, this is what it reminded me of. And then Amon Ra won vertically a lot in college. And then that's dipped a little bit in the NFL because that's not really his, like his athletic profile just dictates he's not going to be a great vertical threat. I think it's the same for Lad. Lad has a lot of production on deep, you know, deep routes at Georgia. A lot of double move type stuff things Amman Ra was also really good at. So I do think he has the technician. the detail oriented route running that is required to be good on deep stuff, but I do agree that he will make a living in the short and intermediate part of the

field. Well, a couple more receivers just to focus on. I don't want to like blow the cover for what you guys are going to be talking about in the upcoming podcast. Two other big guys and one of them that I think you really want to point out, Johnny Wilson from Florida State. All right. When you talk about jump off the tape, I mean, he jumps off the tape when he's standing still

because he's a monster. Florida State's tight end is here at the Senior Bowl. Johnny Wilson, the wide receiver, is bigger than Florida State's tight end. And you think there's a reason for that. You think he's a tight end at the next level. I think he's a tight end. I, you know, not to like go verb verbatim with the article we just put out, Joe, but Elijah Higgins last year, Stanford wide receiver had a lot of hype coming to the week.

The first route I watched the guy run, I said, he's a tight end. Kind of that baby deer to his game a little bit, a little uncoordinated. but ultimately for Wilson it's just the it's just an inability to turn and stop quickly it's like trying to slam the brakes of a semi truck if he's working a hitch or a comeback or a speed turn it's really tough it's really tough for him he looks like a tight end he's six six almost two 250 pounds that is there any recent league that's the closest guy to that that's what position Aaron waller plays tight end joan johnson who's shorter than that by the way but tight end yeah that so I mean, he definitely stands out to me in that regard.

And by the way, and maybe he's receptive to it. I'm sure he's going to be asked about it. This is a class where if he were to play tight end, he can stand out. Because it is, it was really hard for me to pick a standout tight end from this group. The most athletic we saw was Theo Johnson from Penn State, who's also a big powerful guy. But Johnny Wilson, I think. has the ability to stand out and, you know, some team's going to look at that and say, all right, he might be one of the best tight ends in this class.

Yeah, when we call, when we call Theo Johnson athletic, we're adjusting for his size already. So, like, he's athletic for his size. He was the fastest tight end by GPS in the morning practice. It wasn't close either, right? It was not even close, yeah. But there were defensive ends who were faster than every tight end. That's true. That's true.

Yeah, so Johnny Wilson, I think, you know, is going to have to play tight ends. I would be shocked if, if I, because I don't see a world where, we're, we're someone thinks they can line them up on the outside or even in the slot. The added bonus of him being in line and running routes from the in line is he's not going to get pressed. He's not going to be working those deep comebacks, deep pitches that you have to have in your route arsenal if you're going to play on the outside. He's going to be given space. The setting down of the route is more a feel against zone coverages where it's not,

he doesn't have a landmark necessarily he has to get to. He's feeling it out. So I think it will benefit his overall package, which is an attractive one, by the way. We're not dumping on Johnny Wilson. I just think a position change is needed. Let's get to, I want to touch briefly on the quarterbacks because it is a very good group here for the senior bowl. You said it rivals to you the 2020 group that had Justin Herbert, Jalen Hertz, what was here in 2020. Some other guys were here.

I'm sure I'm missing somebody who was here in 20. Was Jordan Love here? Yes, Jordan Love was here. Yeah, so I was not here for that. but I don't know if it's going to have a guy who goes as high as Justin Herbert went in the draft. But the national team, the morning track, the three quarterbacks for that team were Bo Nix. We had Michael Pennix and Sam Hartman. Those are three big-name quarterbacks.

The afternoon session had Spencer Rattler, Tulane's quarterback, whose name is escaping me right now. Michael Pratt. Was there Joe Milton from Tennessee? And Gus Bradley's kid, who actually is the quarterback at South Alabama, he was. was there as well. There was a clear disparity for me between the morning session quarterbacks and the afternoon session quarterbacks. Just from my observation, though, having spent more time watching the morning session quarterbacks, I thought Michael Panix threw the ball the best of the three. I think it's hilarious that you're going to try to get comparisons and everybody's

going to say Tua because Michael Pennix is a lefty. Fran Duffy was actually mentioning to me, he goes, you are literally going to see guys mirror image Michael Penix to try to get a better comparison for him because your brain sometimes can't escape the quarterback thing. Honestly, to me, and I'm not saying Michael Penix is going to be a top 10 draft pick, but I think he's an easier thrower of the football than two it is. I think he's a quicker thrower. His release is quicker. I think he has more zip on the ball.

You think he needs to work on his touch, though, which is something too. would definitely ask. Yeah, touch layering throws where he's not throwing to a spot. You know, he's got to put touch on it. He's struggled with that a little bit. You saw that in the national championship game, actually. But yeah, he's got some mechanical issues. I think that contribute to that. He's a little, you know, his lower half is very disjointed from his upper half. So it's all arm right now. So it's hard to put touch on a ball when you have, you know, a lot of mechanical deficiencies. So I think that's something that will get developed. The arm talent, though, is, wild. Like the ball just flies off his hand. I would say Tua is a good comp for him if you gave Tua the

winner soldier's arm. I see. The Sebastian Stan arm. The Sebastian Stan is mechanical, you know. Yeah, but yeah, too, like you said, Tua layers is he, he feathers his throw is a little bit better than Pennix does. Bo Nix missed some throws. I thought, I thought Sam Hartman, who Sam Hartman to me is just, he is a classic day three NFL quarterback. And I don't mean that in a bad way. You know, to me, delivery is a little loopy. He doesn't have a really strong arm. Adam Kaplan was sitting with us and he called him Giant Gardner Minchu. And I think that's how teams are going to view Sam Hartman.

That guy, you and I were discussing and you mentioned he's going to be like the Aden O'Connell. Depending on where he lands, you wouldn't be surprised he made a couple starts as a rookie. Not at all. Yeah. I mean, he's, I don't know how many career drawbacks he has, but I have to imagine it's over. It's over 2000. He's played a ton of games. That experience is super valuable for teams, you know.

and not a lot of teams are going to see or have a starter grade on him, which means they're thinking backup, that experience for a backup quarterback is huge. Because ultimately your job is to like game plan for the next opponent and get ready. But yeah, if he lanes in the right spot like Aidan O'Connell, I think he could potentially get some starts as a rookie. The afternoon session quarterbacks, I think the one who was most intriguing with Spencer Rattler,

he could spin the ball. But the mistake still showed up. He threw an interception in 11 on 11s. You were just like, oh, that was not good, Spencer. But the ball does pop off his hand. One thing we didn't see today that you had mentioned you would have liked to see more is I don't think we saw Joe Milton push the ball down the field. And if there's one thing you want to see Joe Milton do, it's push the ball down. Yeah.

And some of that isn't his fault. That second practice show was brutal. It was low energy. The offensive install was they were running spot, spacing, slant flat. There was nothing going down to. The defense, by the way, was getting. the offense. Yeah, the defense absolutely dominated it.

At one point, they had three tackles for a loss and a sack for a four-play stretch. I mean, not a good offensive install day for them. You know, it does, it's funny because the talent does skew to the other team. So I wonder if maybe the rosters are a little unbalanced in that regard. The offense doesn't have enough gas. But that said, you know, we got to see Milton push the ball down field. I mean, everyone knows he can do it, I guess. so maybe you don't.

Yeah, exactly. Who is the receiver, the small receiver, who's a Cowan who weighs 160 pounds, and they were deliberately lining them up in a press situation, which no NFL team's ever going to do. But you just wanted to see how he performed in that way. Maybe that's what you want to do with Joe Milton. Yeah, you just want to make sure,

you just want to check boxes, you know, you want to check boxes and make sure a guy like cowing, maybe if he can get off press, you're like, oh, well, we can use him on the outside a little bit. He's not just a slot guy. He can't, or he's probably just a slot guy, but Milton, you want to, team throw in the timing, rhythm, a little bit of anticipation on those intermediate window

throws, which he still didn't throw any of those either. Everything was short. But yeah, hopefully as the week develops on, we get a little more Milton uncorking the arm. We actually got a couple of interesting running backs here at the Senior Bowl. And the one who stood out to me in the morning session, you actually didn't write them up yet in your senior bowl fantasy preview, review, primer, whatever we're going to call it. Is Marshawn Lloyd from USC. I call it, he's an R1 guy, R1L1 guy. And if you'll

remember, that's the old Madden on PlayStation 2 or NCAA, where the jump cut was so overpowered with R1L1. They weren't juke's. They were legitimately overpowered jump cuts. And you can string them together because there was no like fatigue factor

that will limit them. Marshawn Lloyd is a stop-start guy. He made catches in the passing game. He had some explosive runs. This was an exciting player to me and somebody who in my personal opinion had to stock up kind of day. Yeah, compared to the other running backs, he looked really explosive. And he's a big guy. He's almost 220 pounds to see that level of explosiveness.

That jump cut is disgusting. And, you know, when you put on the college shape, that's exactly what you see. You see a guy who breaks a ton of tackles. That's his game. When he's got to move that's that elite, he should be able to repeat that at the next level, yards after contact, all that stuff. But what really impressed me, Joe, is he was applying that quickness. that lateral explosiveness to the past game.

And some of those one-on-one passers, we saw it at the last rep of practice, actually, they brought him back out to do a 1-V-1 drill against a linebacker, and he absolutely annihilated it. He kind of uses that jump cut and break out of his routes, running like a, you know, like an H-5, like a running back out route, basically, where he comes up through the A gap,

he presses the linebacker. He kind of initiates contact on purpose, and then he's got a two-way to go. He can go left or right, you know, flips the jump cut, breaks wide open easy play looked really good in the past game which is an area he wasn't really used that when he was at south carolina and then eventually um the the real USC yeah don't tell my neighbors in greenville south carolina that the that southern cal is the real USC but uh he went to

both of them um the one guy who really stood out too you said oh my lord he can move this is um New Hampshire running back, Dylan Lobb, and you were like, wow, he can move. Turns out he was the fastest running back of the morning practice from GPS. So there you go. Your eyes did not deceive you. He's like, Fran Duffy, I asked him his comp,

and he said, because he's watched him. I don't think you've seen his tape yet. I haven't know. He said, I am so sorry, but he is Danny Woodhead. No. Yes, he said, I'm so sorry, but like, by the way, Danny Woodhead was a fantasy stud. He was.

This kid, watch out. He's got, I think he's a little bigger than Woodhead. But he's got, he's got versatility. He's got size. He's making a name for himself for any early going. I saw him. He was one of the social media superstars. Just like people tweeting about him.

I was like, who's this kid? Don't be surprised you see his name called on day three in the NFL draft. Yeah, first exposure to him today. I was very impressed. Every time he touched the ball, it looked like he was shot out of a cannon. in the past game too it looks that way so i'm actually i'll when we get back to the hotel tonight joe and you know i'm all alone here in the suite by myself i'll probably pop on some dillin lob tape and get after it do you have a bottle of whiskey here to do it with i don't but i can i can fix that

yeah yeah you should probably get one because scott's coming up on i don't know what scott's poison is i think his poison is more mountain dew but uh but uh yeah we'll we'll see when when scott gets here uh one more running back to touch on he's your number one back here um It's Ray Davis from Kentucky. And I think everybody's starting to lean this way. It almost feels like utility in the passing game is now a prerequisite to be really highly ranked in these prospects. I know you and I were kind of play fighting a little bit about Jemir Gibbs. You still don't like the fact that the Lions used the 12th pick on Jemir Gibbs.

I said that picks a hit. It's a home run. I don't care. Obviously in hindsight, I don't care where he was drafted. a difference maker. You think Ray Davis, maybe not to the Jamir Gibbs level, but he can be a difference maker in multiple ways at the next level. Yeah, for sure. I, like, last year was Tajay Spears. Tadier Spears got himself by the second round, right? Was he the second round six? He was the third round, because I think the knee played into that because he doesn't have

a cartilage. That's right. So I think Ray Davis could definitely go in that, you know, day two range. I would, early day two, maybe, maybe round two, actually. So he's so explosive in the past game. Tucky used him. He had multiple targets in college 20 plus yards downfield, like naturally, too. I'm not talking scrambled drill. I'm talking design targets where he's getting targeted 20 plus yards on field. That's very rare for running back. Excellent hands. You saw it again today. He made multiple catches downfield today. So more of the same from Ray Davis. And what's crazy is, you know, when you talk about past game specialists nowadays, you think of a guy like Jamir Gibbs, who's only 200 pounds or even less than 200 pounds. Ray Davis is a big point. He's almost 215.

runs with a lot of physicality. So he's a package. Yeah, he's certainly somebody we're going to be monitoring going forward. Kind of a tough environment for quarterbacks to stand out, but you'll have more takes on them as the week goes on. I think quarterbacks, where they solidify their standing is with the coaching staffs and the interviews. And we're not going to be privy to that, the private interviews. But a good first sign for Michael Pennix, in my opinion, I thought he stood out some other players who really. Hopefully this helped you in your early dynasty prep here,

from Mobile, Alabama. We're going to be catching. We're going to be going downtown, I think talking to people hanging out, having a little food later, maybe rubbing some elbows. Hey, what do you think of this guy? And then tomorrow, we're back at practice. Thursday, you head out of town. We're going to get more from Brett Whitefield. I was just the facilitator on this one. My name being Joe Dolan, the FSWA nominated Joe Dolan, I will say. That's the only time I'm going to call that out. But we had a good day, Brett, with fantasy points getting nominated in four different categories for the FSWA. We were nominated for research article the year, which I think Scott won last year. We were nominated for an article

of the year with Brian Drake. I was on for ongoing series with the mismatch report. And then of course, John Anston and Adam Capel and Paul Keller were nominated for radio show of the year. So it's been a really special year at Fantasy Points. And it's about to get more special just because, you know, Brett's going to be putting out the prospect guide. You're already hard at work. you've got the you mentioned a car ride back in the stadium you're like this is my favorite you've charged every single damn

NFL name but this is your this is why I got into the football business was to eventually be able to talk about the draft so this is my sweet spot this is my Christmas well Christmas is going to last for about three months here so congratulations for Brett Whitefield

at BG Whitefield on Twitter my name is Joe Dillon at FG underscore Dolan on Twitter thanks everybody for listening there's going to be another podcast tomorrow though make sure you check it out with breton spot barrett thanks for tuning in to this edition of the fantasy points podcast remember to subscribe rate and review on your favorite platform and come join the roster at fantasy points.com