Fantasy Football Daily - 2025 Dynasty Superflex Mock Drafting | Dynasty Points Market Report

Episode Date: January 4, 2025

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When you're flying Emirates business class, sampling our range of vintage wines from the largest selection in the skies, you'll see that your vacation isn't really over until your flight is over. Fly Emirates, fly better. It's been a couple of weeks, but now the new year has been officially rung in. We've dragged Buck out of bed, who was previously thought to be dying onto a podcast for everybody. We finally got the time. Over the holidays, there's travel, some stuff. got in the way, but have no fear, the Dynasty Points market report is here. And what we're doing today is a little bit different than what we normally do, where we

just talk trades and values and where things are at. It is week 18. The fantasy season has technically ended for most people. If you're playing in a Week 18 Dynasty or like a two-week championship, get help. I think you're insane. I'm done. So what's next? well before the rookie draft and the NFL hits

it's pre-NFL rookie anything startups now buck I'm gonna before we dive into this I'm gonna say that if you're doing drafts like today I think you're a maniac I think that you are just trying to get your Ladd McConkeys your BTJs

all of that as much as you can get now because you don't have any already and though I'm fine with that at the end of the day, if you're doing startups just to get a higher roster percentage of player X, I think you're out of your mind. Anyway, that being said, because it's not that much crazier than doing one in season, but at least you have some information in season. I don't know.

This is to me the biggest gamble for startups. What we're doing today, Buck, we are doing a bit of a mock draft. We're going to, I think we're going to try to hit four rounds. But again, this is the most you said you've moved in like a week. So we're gonna try it's a start 10 12 team super flex tight-in premium the regular point five a six point passing touchdown is the format and the way this is gonna go is buck and I are gonna go back and forth picking players that we think not that what we think the ADP is gonna be not you know we're not predicting ADP it's just what we think the ADP should be in these rounds and we're gonna explore rounds five through eight, I believe, next week as well. We'll see how this one does. But either way, the first four rounds,

which I think are possibly the most important, we're for sure getting through today. Sound good, Buck? Yes, it does. Let's get it. All right. So, first off, I'd ask you how your New Year's was, but we know, you've been dying.

So shout out to you. But I will say, those who have listened to the podcast, the last couple of weeks have heard me talk about bad beats. I had a good 40-minute long rant about bad beats just off the bucks, Cowboys, Sunday Night Football Game. It was crushing to me. I think I have one that tops it.

And I'll tell you what it is. Jacob and I have been in this league is the second Dynasty League he and I ever joined. He has made the finals in every season and has never won, four or five years long. he's always choked at the last game one was because damar hamlin died that that's the one that i technically beat him in because you know we each had players from that game et cetera et cetera you remember how that nightmare scenario went not just for hamlet but for every dynasty commissioner out there we knew that was that was going to be a problem so this year i'm going into the last games on the weekend last weekend the last game the the 49ers lions game monday night football

I'm down 60. I'm playing Jared Gough and I'm playing George Kittle. I lost by six and a half points. I lost by one Kittle touchdown, basically. I mean, the point three or point whatever, you're making that up on a couple of yards, you know, any catch, et cetera. As long as it wasn't a zero yard rush,

you know what I mean? Where we were winning, basically. The 49ers got inside the five four times. Not one. Kittle, receiving, touchdown. Not one. And Goff still put up over 30 in a game that they should arrested everybody. Like, to get me that, I would rather have just gotten dismantled and been down 100 or lose by 40 and only getting 20 points than to get within six.

And the last drive of the game, they're in hurry up. Josh Dobbs throws a little checkdown pass. Oh my God. It gets us to within, right? It gets us to within that seven points. One more catch. They're inside the five. No way they go to anyone else for a fifth time or however many times.

Well, they didn't because Josh Dobbs runs the damn ball in on a play design for kiddle to the corner of the post. I fell to my knees, Buck, and I just wept. My wife had no idea what to do. I wept. It's my second biggest biggest. buy in Dynasty League that there is that I have. I cried. It was the worst second place finish I've ever had.

And that one might hurt more than the Home League one that I bitched about a couple weeks ago. But I don't know if you had any bad beats like that, but damn. I had a couple. I actually lost my three Pete on the last little kiddle dump off us by like 0.75. If you caught anything I lost. I lost that. I was sick on Monday night.

I'm like sleeping but listening to the game every time I hear Kittle. I know that he caught something. So I knew that it's closer and closer to the score. But I knew there were 17 points, but I didn't know how I just kind of would try to figure out based on Joe Buck. And I knew he didn't score a touchdown.

And then when I finally got up, there was like four minutes left in the game when I got to check the score. And it was like, okay, one catch I lose. And then, of course, he caught a little dump off and I lost. But there was, I lost a lot of some of my best teams lost in the semis this year. And they put up like 220.

in the third place game. So that was kind of my bad beats. I had a lot of like far and away best teams that came out with no bread this year, way more than other years. It's definitely definitely a difference, right, in how we view our bad beats. I don't know.

These ones were emotional for me. I don't know what it was. Never before. I couldn't sleep that night. I lost sleep. And I couldn't sleep the other nights. And what pissed me off even more is that,

that Bucks Cowboys game cost me, I lost that game by like two and a half points. So basically any, any catch by Macmillan on that last drive was going to put me in the finals. I bodied both teams in the finals in that home league too. And it just hurt that little bit more knowing of the,

of the two championships I lost out of the, I think, the seven I played in, I outscored all the teams in the finals when I wasn't there. Me too. That feeling, that, and especially when it's just by, I lost four finals buck by a total of nine points. Keeping in mind, I lost one by six and a half.

Do you know how, how painful that is? Sorry, I lost four. I didn't lose two. I lost four out of the ones I was in. Yeah, by nine points. that's painful buck that's that's pain i can't i can't get back i feel you i mean if i wasn't sick i'd be a lot more mad about the three people you know losing a three p getting i've been to the finals in that league four times in a row you're being able to do something like that's pretty crazy and then

losing losing by a point is it's pretty tough especially because i got i lost cd lamb i lost chuba hubbard right before the game and then remandre got benched but i had no one to put in so i took a straight zero so i had like three zeros i was playing like Kisham Butte and stuff. Mondra got benched and then just started the whole game too. He had zero points. He had a zero. I know he played.

He had two carries for one yard. He put up zero point one. Damn. I know I know Twitter was like losing their money. At first. He got the first carry for five yards and then somehow that five yards got like, it went away and he had one carry for rest of the game and Gibby had like

12 for 63 and Codacola passes. Oh yeah. So Rmandres like, dead. Well, we're not going to be talking to Ramandre in this mock draft, but damn, that is going to be an interesting kind of a litmus test in football this year. All right. It's enough crying. I could keep crying, honestly. I would trade the gold around my neck for those titles. I'll tell you that. Let's get into this. So like we said, 12 team, start 10, super flex, tight end premium out a 0.5, 6 point passing touchdowns. and we're going to go pick by pick to what we think it should be. And we're going to see where we disagree and try to do this in like an hour and a half. So you don't die.

All right. Here we go. I'm going to start this thing off. I'm going to go 101. We did an in-season startup. And I believe it was Stroud went 101. Yeah. I'm going to say Josh Allen should be the 101 again.

Yeah, I agree. He's the greatest arm punter in football history, which is something I'm still beside myself that companies, like CBS put out there, and he arm punted that ball. I mean, that is a real thing, though. Like, people were making that, like, that's a real term. That's not what he tried to do.

Yeah, but an arm punts a real term. I understand that. But, like, when you're fourth and, like, 30, sure third down into the end zone double cut it was a bad decision and a shit throw that the guy for some reason tried to take it if he just kneels down and they get the ball and what the 20 that's not an arm punt that's a god awful interception but people are actually they never heard the term before like well yeah that's that's make everything like you make everything versus Lamar. Like, not everything has to be versus Lamar.

Yeah. Well, the Josh Allen PR team for the MVP is like working triple over time right now, but I think the MVP race is dumb. Actually, I'll settle that right now. The MVP race is stupid. It's dumb. We're arguing stuff that it's stupid. Like, Jackson, should he? Sure. He should. He should. Will he get it? No. Just accept that he won't. He's already got two. They're not going to give him three in a row. He's going to get Embedded. That's what's going to happen. This is going to be the Joel Embedd, MVP for basketball fans.

All right, 102, Buck. Okay, I'm going to go, there's a couple players ago. I'm going to go Jay and Daniels. That's who I thought you were going to pick. That's not who I would have. But that's who I thought you would pick. Yeah, I'll go with JD at 102. I think he's probably just going to get there

eventually. So I'll do it now. He's, man, He's basically like what we, like he's, Lamar, so it's between Lamar, Jalen Hertz and Jaden Daniels for me. Jalen Hertz, like obviously with the rushing touchdown stuff. And I feel like the way Jane Daniels gets his points is just a little easier because he can get it through the air a lot better. And he's not, I don't say game script dependent,

but I think, I just think he can get his points a little easier. We have to like worry about this tush push thing and everything with, with hurts. Like, and he does have weapons. I get it. I just think, I think Daniel's what he showed in his rookie season, I think it's a lot better. And with Lamar, Lamar has been like a fake elite in the past. I'm not going to lie. He has been. Like, he's been a fake elite fantasy quarterback. This past year, obviously, like, he blew that narrative out of the water and made it look really stupid. But in years past, like, he has been. Like, he's always rushed for a bunch of yards, but he's never been, like, quarterback won outside of the rookie season, the first season as a full-time

starter the MVP season and then this year obviously but before that it's been like you'll look and he'll rush for like 90 yards and still have like 17 fantasy points but this year he didn't like this year was really good so i'll take daniels ahead of him because of the years he got hurt right so 2020 was not a great year got COVID multiple times because he has the immune system of a toddler but the two years he got hurt remember like the first six games of each of those years he was like oh he's the MVP was the number one guy for the first six, seven games, and his team started to die around him, and then ultimately he got hurt.

So you are right, there is that risk. Daniels, for me, it's going to be the rushing touchdowns. That's always the thing with these guys. Is he going to get one-yard rushing touchdowns often? I don't know. Lamar also has a serious fumbling problem. Like, let's call a spade a spade. He has a fumbling issue.

He can make up for it through the air, though, because if you look at the past attempts, I think it was only three times that Jalen Hurst threw for over 30 times. And you look at Daniels. This is rookie season 39, 36, 38, 32, 34, 38, 35, plus he's almost rushing 10 times a game. That's not going to end for at least the next, like, two years. Like, he's at least going to do that for the next two years, I would say. And as the weapons increase, as he gets better as a thrower, I don't know.

And he's obviously, he's 24 years old. Like, he shouldn't get much worse as he is right now. Obviously, could, who knows. but he's kind of a finished product. He should be very close to it. So I don't know. I think it's just, it's a little cheesier how Hertz gets his point.

So if you want to have Hertz, I think it's fine. But I think it's just a little safer because Daniels is going to throw the ball a lot more. You don't have to worry about the one yard touchdowns. I think that's fair. For me, at three, I will go Lamar Jackson. I will take him over Jalen Hertz.

People might think I'm kind of crazy for that. I just think he's ultimately a better quarterback. and that's what it is for me. 18 passing touchdowns versus 14. He has 10, 13, 15, and 14 rushing touchdowns. The Tush Push thing is real. Clearly, it's real. He's obviously a good fantasy quarterback.

I don't think he's as good real-life quarterback as any of the guys we just talked about. I don't think he's really a top 10 real-life quarterback, but we're not here to play real-life quarterbacking. We're here to play fantasy. And obviously, the rushing does matter. He's only 26. So I have no real issues with that.

But is Barclay going to do it Barclay did this year? I mean, probably not. But we're a couple of these touchdowns from the one yard line. And granted, that's a lot to say, considering, you know, how often he does get them. So we're talking about four. We're not talking about the eighth or ninth. He's kind of the last guy in this upper tier for me. So I'll go Hertz here.

But I think one through four it could go anyway. Wait, I just realized it was your pick. Yeah, you made my big. But I would have picked hers anyway. But yeah, at least we saw, we saw Hertz do the touchposts without Jason Kelsey, though. This year, no Jason Kelsey. So that was that was the big thing. Like, oh, he can't do it without the center.

Jason Kelsey's the main reason. And he still did it. So I don't, as long as they don't ban it, which if they were going to ban it, if they were going to ban it, they would have did it. Which I don't think they should ban it. The play's ugly as shit, but I don't think it should be banned. It's just stupid. It's like big pile up.

Did they get in? And it just takes so much of the excitement away from like the moment. It's ugly, but. And I'm sorry. But Kenny Pickett's in the game and Barclay's in the game. And instead of just turning around and handing it to Sequin multiple times, good game, man, good season, you're awesome. We love you. We owe you most of our year.

You know, damn near record breaking. You're the best. Also, fuck you. You don't get those touchdown. This is Kenny Pickett's touchdown. All right. He's getting it from the, get. get out of here

just come on did you need the points that badly first the giants did it like were you going to lose that no it's dumb it's stupid I hate it number five is always where things break for me I don't want my homes there I definitely don't want

Stroud burrows the best of the pocket guys I don't want them there I'm going to take Justin Jefferson. I'm taking the first receiver off the board at five. I think quarterback levels out. I think it levels out pretty quickly.

I'll take the first receiver off the board at 1.5. And that's still Jefferson for me. Chase has been awesome. Jefferson's still my one. All right. Then I'll take the actual wider server one. I'll take John Chase. Fair.

I think it'll be interesting to me what happens with T. We've seen Chase without him. It's just, it's fine. The Justin's everything, Jefferson thing is fine, obviously. It's just, Jamar Chase is insulated. Like, he has a quarterback. And it's just, he's going to. They still got to pay him.

He'll, he'll be on the team. I know, but I'm, again, I'm worried about, so here's the thing with me. We've seen what Taylor can do with Jamar Chase and T. Higgins in the lineup. It feels like without T. Higgins, Jamar Chase's role sucks and he doesn't know what to do. He runs the, he runs the short. We saw it this year. It was infuriating, infuriating. but they do get to face the Ravens twice a year,

which means you'll get 500 yards from those two games alone every, every year. So it is whatever. We're kind of, we're splitting hairs at that point. Now we get into that point where it's very tempting to go quarterback here. Obviously, Burrow is unbelievable this year.

He's the QB3. Aside from his injury years, he's never finished outside of the top, you know, the upper tier. and especially in six-point passing touchdown leagues. I think he's a really safe pick. Has the contract.

I'll go Joe Burrow at seven. But I didn't love it. No, I like it. I'm going to go. I'll go see this Troud. Okay, that's kind of gross to me. That's gross to me. Why Stroud?

He's been god-awful. Not just bad a little bit. Unplayable. Yeah, I mean, we do this thing. I mean, he's 23 years old. and he had one of the best rookie seasons ever. We do this thing where it's like, we want to be so right. Like, look what I told you.

Look, he regress. You regress. Yeah, it is what it is. He missed most of his weapons a lot of the season. Nico Collins missed seven games. Tank Dell was hurt and then got hurt again. Stefan Diggs was done after four weeks. And the PFF dude, what the fuck?

Bobby Sloick is not fit to be an offensive coordinator. So I still believe in Strata. I think you should be in the first round. I mean, you want to argue some receivers over him. I think that's fine. like what are we going to like move this dude to like the third round now that doesn't make sense i think that's we're just going to get to i don't want him in the third round but i had an issue with him where he was getting drafted this year when he come off his elite

rookie year i want he's a second round quarterback pick he doesn't run like it just he doesn't he doesn't run and his name's not joe burrow that's it he's just but he could have joe burrow and we did it with joe burrow too and then we we push joe burrow down how joe burrow's back up so Joe Burrell didn't really go down past 1-8. It was just his injury that put him down there. No, he was in the early second round because I got him in the early second round last year. In your drafts, possibly, but his ADP did not go into the second round.

He was like the 11-80P, but who do you want at the 1-9? I'm going to double-check that because I don't think that's true. I mean, they're worried about the wrist thing. They're caught off the, yeah, he was. I mean, I know he was like really easy to be got at the turn. consistently. QB6-18 was his ADP from May 1st to August 31st. It's pretty much right back to where he is.

Yeah, after the rookie draft. So May to August 31st. That's how I always do the ADP. That's what I, I don't look at pre, no, I want to look at the main draft season, right? So he went about where I was expecting. Yeah, but Stroud, he just doesn't run, man. There's one quarterback in the first round for May 1st, May 1st to August. It's 31st on Dynasty Data Lab.

That's a side, that's like purely regarded as like a statue. It was Caleb and AR, which hilarious when you look at it. Truly hilarious. But anyway, anyway, I think next up it's pretty easy. That will be a CD Lamb. Pretty simple for me here at 1-9. I mean, what else do you need to know? The guy is unbelievable.

He was unbelievable with their backup. I'll take Malik Named. Good pick. I like that pick. Don't mind that pick at all. This tells you this is an exact example as to the wide receiver boys that we are because we're taking all of these wide receivers. Now people are going to start losing their mind because Pat's not on here. I get it. Where's Patrick Mahomes? He's Patrick Mahomes. He's been really good the last two weeks because he started to care, right? 28 points, 34 points, these last two weeks.

And in a six-point passing touchdown league, he's still incredibly valuable. So I'm going to put him here at the 11. That's good. Can I get the whole turn? Can I get the 112 and the 2-1? You do not get the whole turn. Come on. I know you're just going to receive a receiver.

I wasn't going to. I think you were. Go ahead. I wasn't going to. I really wasn't going to. but now I don't know because I wanted to turn yeah you're greedy

I'll say that the turn is going to be very nice this year I'll take Bowers that's kind of what I thought you were going to do it was between Bowers and Puka and Pooka C and Pooka was where I was going to go

so I don't I don't mind it I think Bowers will be a first round pick he'll be you should absolutely be a first round pick and a tight end premium so let's talk about the first round a little bit Alan Daniels Jackson Hertz Burrow Stroud who I don't think should be there and then Mahomes

Like I would still take Mahomes over Stroud I think At this point but I think that's fine like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 we have 7 quarterbacks in the first round A lot of receivers no running back If you go to Dynasty Data Ladd There's a very small sample size of ADP

right now and it's Bejan Robinson at 10 Ammonrod 11 so no AmmanRoy 11 So no almond raw in round one is going to upset some people. I have a feeling. Remove almond raw and then Bowers. And then obviously we have Mahomes is five in these. So Mahomes is still going before Hertz,

which I think is crazy. Burrow is going at three. So some discrepancies there. You are right. We always do push up one of these pylons for sure. I like, I mean, getting Puka. He's been unbelievable. So Pook after neighbors.

So there's our top five wide receivers right there. Jefferson Chase, Lamb, neighbors, Puka. All right. Who you got next at 202? I want to say, like, where I took Cs you to a shot out, that one eight spot sucks. One eight sucks. Yeah, that sucks. And we'll see, like, maybe go back.

But that's an easy lamb click for me. That's why I pick that more like, that's why I'm on that team. We'll see what that team looks like at the end. All right. Is that how we're doing it? All right. All right. Well, yeah, okay.

I'm the one one. I took the 101. A spot. I hate drafting from, by the way. I fucking hate drafting from 101. I always end up at 1-8. That's why I just pull myself there. That's the worst shit ever.

I'll go on round now. Yeah, hard to deny. It's so funny. We're funny people, man. No Bijon. Bejohn's a round one pick. We're not touching them. I find that interesting.

I'm going to do the other thing that I think will happen. I think he's going to be here. It's Brian Thomas Jr. I don't think he should go that far away from neighbors. I would take him over Garrett Wilson, don't hit me. I would take him over Marv, AJ Brown,

all the other receivers, taking them. So I'll take Brian Thomas Jr. there. Yeah, that's where I would have taken him. Yeah, he's at the two, three. He's wide receiver seven. So that's, that's it for me.

What do you got? I'll take Bejohn now. Okay. I think if you get Bejon at the two, four, you're probably loving. life. I think you'll need to I think you'll need to take them higher. But for how we think the board should go, because keep in mind, this is a 10 team or 12 teams

start 10, super flex, tight and premium with six point passing touchdowns. I think the 2.4 is the right spot. Oh, we can't do it your way because I get to make a pick for you here at 2.5. This is my pick. Who do I want? Who is the buck pick here? And I think I know who it is. I think I know who it's going to be. Be Justin Herbert at the 2-5. I looked at that. I think I thought about it.

Like, if I'm making that draft pick myself, yeah, it would be between Herbert and Gibbs, probably. Herbert Gibbs and McBride, probably. I'll go here at the 2-6. I'll go Gibbs. I don't think you should go much further away from Bejohn. They should pretty much go back to back. So I'll go Gibbs.

Yeah, he's unbelievable. He's unbelievably good. We know this. So I went to Herbert there because back half of the season when they've just let him do what he wants to do, not run the ball. Well, when they don't run the ball eight billion times, when they have a pass rate over expected,

which was my issue going into the year, and they let him let it loose. He's been very good. It was great down the fantasy playoff. Shout out us for winning the fantasy points. Listener League five. No big deal. He was a good Herbert pick.

It was a good Herbert pick. wonder who picks him. So then, so then technically I did. So then at 2.5, I think he'll probably bounce back there. They sign a receiver, draft receiver. The only thing I can see hurting Herbert in the next year is when they draft a running back in like the first round. I need like. They're going to do, they're going to do something that just makes Greg Roman's, Greg Roman foam at the mouth. And we're going to go right back to doing the same old thing. But I think the fourth round was too far. from the fall. I think he's as good or better than the other quarterbacks

left on the board. I'm not touching Anthony Richardson with an 80,000 foot pole. So we'll go Herbert as a 2-5. You took Gibbs, which I think is a RV2. I mean, sure. Dope.

Great pick. He's awesome. Everything he does is awesome. He's just awesome. Ben Johnson leaving could leave some stuff up for conversation, but I don't think by that much. Now, this is where it gets tricky for me.

because at the 2-7, this spot sucks. 27 absolutely sucks. You've got some, do you want to take the gamble on Marvin Harrison, Jr.? I don't at 27. No. I don't. Garrett Wilson, guess what we're hoping and praying for another quarterback situation to get

better because we've seen him be good. Shout out Tyrod Taylor, hitting the back shoulder fade in the end zone perfectly. Start Tyra. T-Mobile, start him, man. It's not going to start this week. He's getting his first. 500 the Devante Adams no matter what.

He's going to throw 50 passes to him just to make sure Devante catches. He was so worried about the 500 touchdown scored zero points and was down 40 to zero and took himself out of the game. He's a clown. He is a clown. So this spot at 2-7 is really, to me, where the draft kind of starts. This is where the draft begins for me. It's difficult. I will say we're going to talk about a player in the third round I want.

But we're at watch receiver. One, two, three, four, five, six. We're at Water Receiver 8. I mean, I'm just taking Garrett Wilson. Free G-File. I'll take Garrett Wilson. And maybe that's going to bite me. Maybe I'm too into Garrett Wilson.

We're still too high on Garrett Wilson. I believe we're the highest in the fantasy points. Dynasty ranks on Garrett Wilson. He hasn't done anything to make me not believe in his talent. I'm back in for another year. Who do you got at 2-8? So I'll say I think this is a player that probably should have went a few picks ago.

I'll take Drake May. Oh, that's not where I thought you were going. I take Drake May. He was pretty far down there. He, so our charters have not liked how he's played. Brett Whitefield has mentioned he's gotten a lot of softer second half production from opposing teams defenses. He is a little bit reckless.

Granted, he kind of has to be right now. I'd be concerned if there's no coaching change. if there's no shift I would I would genuinely be concerned but this is a dynasty it's not a redraft I think this is a good pick it through eight I think that's a fine upside pick I thought you were going to take

like a Marv no I'm not taking Marv I will say with Drake May he has a really annoying cult fan base like it has got it has gotten to like levels of Justin Fields already and it is so irritating like he has four

well actually he has one win right Like he has one win himself, I think. Is that right? Did he win one game as a starter? I don't know. I don't think QB wins matter to me. When you talk about this dude, like he's making all these plays every game and you look and he's won one game. Yeah, I think it matters a tiny bit.

Like, it doesn't, I'm not a QB wins guy, whatever, but I mean, when you win in one game and you're getting all this praise and he has like 14 touchdowns, 11 picks. Like, I get it. I get he's on a terrible team with the worst weapons. I get all that. I mean, we hope it will improve, but it could improve. like it did a few years ago from Mac Jones where they spent a bunch of money and they still had no receivers.

Yeah, that was horrendously. That's what I mean, you need a coaching change. You need someone in there. Yeah, but, and that's the other thing. With Mayo, I mean, he's terrible. They just brought him in. Like, are they going to fire him already?

I'm not sure. He's thrown every player and personnel member under the bus. The thing with May is he's doing this with the terrible cast. You're right, but 29 points, 26. I mean, if we rounded up, right, 30, 27, 23, 27, 24, 22, 25.

Like, he scores points. He belongs here. There is some concern to his game, though. I'll say that. I'll take him over Caleb. I'll take him over Kyler. Take him over all those other guys. This spot for me,

now some people might be really upset because this player hasn't been drafted yet. He's, you know, the wide receiver 5, which was the conversation at the very start of the year. I'll take Nico Collins here. I think he's a great wide receiver. He's amazing. He's unreal.

Even with all the stuff this year. However, I'd like to see him do it for a full season. Injury prone, I get it. Players can't be it. I get it. I understand. When he's healthy, it's unbelievable. But even if you look down the stretch, so he came back from being injured,

he had big game. And yes, big long touchdown called back. listen, I hear you. He had multiple. Every player has plays called back. That's just how football works. So we know this guy is really good. He's elite. He's in the top 10. I think he's nine. We're not going to

fight over this. This isn't bare-knuckle boxing over this. His stretches are unreal, but they're stretches. I like to see a full season. Upside's obviously there is what it is. Who do you got, Buck? Caleb. I'll take Caleb now. You'll take Caleb here?

Yeah. I think I'm still passing on Caleb here, but I could see why somebody would take Caleb here, especially if you get the Lamar Jackson and Caleb Williams stack up. It's not how we're doing this. It's just what we think will happen. But I think that's a fine pick. I don't want Caleb Williams. I think he kind of sucks.

But that's disrespectful. I think he kind of sucks, dude. He's a rookie. 68 sacks. You know how many quarterbacks sacked that many times? The problem is, is a lot of those sacks are on him. Like, they've been charted to, on him.

Yeah, I just don't like when we do that with players like him. He has 19 of his sacks have been charged to him by our data team. Like his raw stats are like much better than Drake Mays. And he's still, he's still rushed for 500 yards. He's played more games. He's got. He's only, yeah, he's played more games. He's only thrown six bigs.

He's afraid to throw the ball. He holds on to the ball more than any quarterback in the NFL. Has to. Well, that's because he clip farms. That's not good. That's why. But that's also not good. Like, I'm sorry, but.

He scam ward. He scam ward clip farms. Scam ward. I can't wait to talk about your boy Milro who, uh, who, uh, who, he declared, he declared that's one upon buck. Yeah, terrible. That he's, he's, he's Mr. play tipper.

He's like tipping his pitches out there. It's brutal. He's pretty bad. But I, I'm just. I'm willing to take other quarterbacks over Caleb I'm being honest right now I'd like to see a little more but we didn't he says a lot of upside though

like he could sure he did rush for 500 like you said but even his upside his upside games aren't even and he's gonna get you know he's gonna get like he's just gonna get a lot of boost depending what they get a head coach did you see did you see that there's a report in Chicago he's had some that they're actively trying to not have Ben Johnson go to Chicago

I haven't seen this. I think Benzano wants to go there. I've seen Mike McCarthy, his name, being thrown into the mix. Dude, they're going to establish it so hard if Mike McCarthy is there. He didn't have 27-point or 29. He had the 39. He has multiple 300-yard games with no picks. He has some blow-up games for sure.

I just, I don't know. I can't do it. I can't. A lot of they're behind. I don't know. I can't. I'm not into him. I'm not.

I wouldn't take him here. I wouldn't take him here. It's fine if you would take him there, but I'm not taking him there. I think he's free cash to the 201 at the 210, right? So he's like the rookie. That'd be the rookie one. Like I said,

I think that's a fair pick. Now, here comes the question book. So you're getting Gailie Williams as a rookie 106 in the last class. Yeah, this class was insane. And I like that you just pointed out the class. because I'm going to take a rookie here. Don't do it, bro.

At the 2-11. Don't do it. He's going to get picked ahead of this. Don't do it. But Gentie is going to get picked here at the 2-11. We're picking rookie picks? So I'll take Gentie. Yes.

We can pick rookie picks? Yes. I think Gentie is going to go here. Can I pick Jeremiah Smith? No. No, he's not... This isn't C2C. I know you're sick, but I'll slap you right back to bed.

We're not doing CTC here. Come on. No, but I think Gentie is going to go in this second round. I don't think he goes as high as Bejohn did at the 2-1. I mean, in some drafts, I think he might. Do you want to take him... Well, I actually think he'd go above Gare Wilson. Me too, I didn't know he could take him. That was probably an oversight on my part.

but yeah I'll take them here I'd actually swap I'd probably swap we're gonna swap them that's what we're gonna do that's how we're gonna do this so we're gonna go jante and then that would leave Garrett Wilson at the 211

which is probably more where he'll go there we go so then we got the 212 here buck all right so honestly the two three turn is pretty good this isn't a third round reversal no it is not which I prefer not to be.

I think that's a stupid format, but that's for a different day. Can't wait to argue that one. I will draft. Can I get the whole turn? No, you do not get the whole turn. Yeah, but it helps my other pick. Yeah, but you're not getting the whole turn.

Stop trying to take every turn. You don't get the turn. I'll take London. Really? Yeah. Why London here? Because I can't get the whole turn, and I would have taken a quarterback in London

and I want to draft Kyler Murray ever again. It's like we're drafting a real, real team. He quote just wants a fucking receiver. I think London is good. He's a good player, seven touchdowns, 90 receptions, really have to deal with the terrible Kirk Cousins thing, but 13 targets and eight targets from Michael Pennick. Yeah, he's insulated and wide receiver falls off a cliff here.

I mean, there's one guy and yeah, he doesn't wear any gear and he's the worst rookie receiver that's drafted that high in a while. So, I mean, it falls off a cliff. And you have like AJ Brown who's great, but 20 years old. It's just, I don't know. I think he's the last shot at a receiver. Like they feel good about at least right there. And that's just QBs. Actually, I disrespect to somebody.

but I would be what I disrespected someone I wouldn't pick London now that I wouldn't pick London actually I disrespect to somebody you wouldn't take London no I just expected we'll take him off the board who'd you disrespect Trey McBride thank you is that is exactly who I was going to take yeah I didn't see yeah if Bowers is going at the end around one I mean end around two again another guy that probably should go ahead of Garrett Wilson I'm just going to take the receiver though that's my thing in a startup anyway you it's different if we're trading and teams are established, etc.

In your league, that does change things. So I get it. 212. I don't mind that at all. Would I take London at the 3-1 in a 6-point passing touchdown league? That is a good question.

You know what? I'm going to say no. I'll take Jordan Love here. At the 3-1 and a 6-point passing touchdown league. Before we keep going, let's talk about the second round. First round, we know with Alan Daniel. Jackson, Hertz, Jefferson, Chase, Burrow Stroud, Lamb, neighbors, Mahomes, and Bowers.

Great. No real issues with that, except for Stroud. We talked about it. We don't need to dive back in. Second round is a ton of great value here. Puka, St. Brown, BTJ, B. Rob, Herbert, which might seem as a reach. I think Herbert. Bejohn, not B, Rob.

Is that what I said? Damn. Okay, Bejan. Herbert, which might be a reach, but I think this is where he's going to go. I think that's where he's going to go. Gibbs, Ashton Jenty, or Jeanty, I'll figure that out as the rookie season goes on. I don't watch college football, guys. I don't.

Drake May, Nico Collins, Caleb, Garrett Wilson, Trey McBride. If that happened in a startup, I'd be like, of course it did. Like, why wouldn't that be the ADP? What we're missing from this, when I look at the one that had been done that were going off of. We have missed in this round, Staqon, Barclay, Brice Hall, and A.J. Brown.

All went in the limited sample size that we have. These are the players that went in that situation. So take that for what you will. I do not think Breece Hall deserves to be in the second round. And I don't care how good Barclay was. I'm not taking him in the second round. I'm not doing it. You can't make me do it.

And this is my show. So I'm not doing it. I'll fade. him again. He's great. He's dope. I'm not taking him in the second or third round. I'm sorry. Yeah, I agree. He shouldn't go here. That's... So that's why at the beginning of the third six-point passing touchdown league, he has been hurt all year. He blows his ankle up week one on a terrible field. Comes back, has a groin injury. It's terrible. And then Josh Jacobs just turns into the three touchdown machine. Shouted us for getting him in like the ninth round for two seconds. No big deal. But I don't think that that touchdown variance, I don't think sticks. Jordan Love, though not as good as his year last year down the stretch,

has had multiple upside games. I'm happy with him. I'm happy with him here at 3-1. I'm good with it. You're talking about 40-point game, 20-point game, 35, 26, 24, 24, not throwing the touchdowns that he did the year before? I'll take it. I think that's fine.

He's a Toyota Thon merchant. And I think he's, I just think he's kind of ass. I'm not going to sit here and lie. I think he has like an amazing PR team. I don't know. He played like, he's played like eight good games of NFL football.

And he has like this, like people just like look at him as like an elite quarterback, like in real life, which I'm not really sure why. But I'll take London now. Well, he's got games. He's played more than eight good games of football, just to point out.

he's had elite games I mean 29 points buck um 28 34 32 25 29 oh I don't what did I say earlier I don't care about real life can he score me fantasy points

he's going to score fantasy points yeah but that wasn't my argument yeah I know I'm just I'm just stating but he scores points when he throws three picks to start the game I call I called him better PR teamed Will Levis and people yelled at me on the internet.

He might be. I don't know. I don't care. All I know is that... 20 points this week 11. Is that 3-1? Yeah, that's fine. He had 15, 6-point passing touchdown, Buck.

He had 15 in week 11... Or he had 22 in week 15 alone. And he did it again in week 13. And he did it again in week 11. And he almost did against San Francisco where he had 19.4. Those are games where he had Josh Jacobs, multiple three touchdown games. Like the Josh Jacobs run was insane.

Let's just be real and call it what it is. But at 3-2, you want to take Drake London. I think the team at 1-102 is looking mighty fine. You got Daniels-Wilson, London? I think you're pretty happy with that. If you go, that puts Drake London at wide receiver 11. Wide receiver 11. I don't think that's bad.

Here comes the pick. Someone's going to do it. Someone's going to do it way earlier than they should. someone's taken not so Maserati Marf. Someone's going to do it. Someone's going to do it right around here. Third round. All upside sophomore. They're going to turn

it around. I can already see all the narratives for it, insulated that I would take other receivers ahead of him. But this is what I think it's going to be what I kind of think it should be. I'll go

Marv at 3.3. Yeah. I would still fade but I get it. I know someone would take him. I'll take Kyler. Okay. At 3.4. That's a good Kyler pick at 3-4. I think that's a good Kyler pick.

It's hard to fade a profile like Kyler, but I do want to quit him. Like I am pretty close to quitting him and I've been one of the bigger Kyler guys. I don't know. I just think he's at the point where he's just like he's fine. He's a fine NFL quarterback, but not good enough to really like to really

put a team over the hump. I think he'll still be in Arizona next year, but I don't know. I was hoping for a bigger season from him. He was just, he's just really, he's just a really inconsistent player. And he, he doesn't have, like, any floor. And I don't know, he, he still does run. Like, he does run. I know people, where did he go? He went right there. He, uh, like, he still ran for 550 and five touchdowns. Obviously, James Connor takes a lot at the goal line. So they stopped running the, like, RPO stuff of the goal line for Kyler. But maybe he gets a first round receiver this year or something. and he'll improve.

So I think in the third round, it's just a kind of free cash. Just needs that good wide receiver. I mean, really since 2020, now there hasn't been that elite quarterback injuries and play, et cetera, has definitely heard them for sure. Obviously, the ACL in 2022,

and then coming back in 2023, 2021 was up and down for him as well. Very interesting. I'd be tempted to take the, The next rookie off the board here. But I think, I think Sequin Barclay at 3.5 is going to be lower than where he actually goes.

The earliest I would start considering it, given the rest of the board, is kind of booty cheeks, in my opinion. Third round kind of sucks this year. Yep. I'll go. It's tough. I think A.J. Brown.

I think that's a good spot for A.J. Brown at the 3-6. I think you're getting a little bit of a discreet. count there for probably your second wide receiver on your team maybe he's like the last receiver i would feel comfortable as my wide receiver one probably if we're being if we're being honest i don't hate that at all i'll tell you for my next pick it's going to make me want to throw up but i'm going to tell you why this is my pick i'll take trevor lawrence oh no yes i know i'm the biggest Trevor Lawrence hater that exists. However, I am basing this purely on what I have seen on Twitter.

And I know, Tom, you're basing a take on what you have seen on Twitter. I have seen very smart people like Sigmund Bloom and other very smart fantasy people say that apparently Ben Johnson loves Trevor Lawrence, loves a situation in Jacksonville. Ben Johnson goes to Jacksonville, Trevor Lawrence's ADP might shoot to the second round. Brian Thomas Jr. is going to go to the first round. Like, he's the type of coach that shifts a player's value by it.

He's a bad player. So we're just going to drop him through that purely off of narratives because of the coach. I'm just, look. So if he doesn't get the coach, he falls even further. It doesn't seem like a great pick. He will fall further. But I like to have fun here, Buck. Mr. Grumpy ass

and I'm having fun with this pick because the board sucks I think I like to have fun as well I think with Brian Thomas Jr. going into 2.3 it's not going to be Mac Jones although hilarious that Mac Jones absolutely outproduces Trevor Lawrence

when playing kind of funny but I'll take Trevor Lawrence at the 3-7 a new coach is going to get his ADP bumped back up that's this isn't where he's going to be in my final rankings. I'm pretty sure. But at the 3-7, your QB2,

he's got the elite alpha going into his second year. He's going to get new coaches. If he gets the new coach, I can see 3-7 here. So Trevor Lawrence, it sucks, but when you look at the rest of the board, it's like, okay, good. Yeah, we need more good players.

I'll take who, someone who probably, he should go ahead of Barclays. should go ahead AJ Brown that I took I'll take A Chan Okay yeah you're right He's probably a little low here at 3-8 He's probably low here

I agree It's kind of hard to fit all these guys in Honestly I know But wide receiver RB 5 off the board I think it's a pretty good deal for Achan Early season drafting

Runningbacks don't really get taken Too high So I think that's fine I'm gonna go next He's great. We don't have to talk about A-Channel lot because he's awesome. He's awesome.

He's the wide receiver one on the team. It's crazy. Truly insane. Shout out Ryan Heath for being all over that, right? 78 receptions. Insane. Not the big home run touchdown guy this year as he was in his rookie year.

But that stuff's hard. It's hard to do. I'll take a player who I think is going to be drafted probably higher than AJ Brown. He'll get probably drafted ahead of London and Harrison by the time this is all said and done. Jackson Smith and Jigba is who I'm going to take here at 3-9. This to me is where I think he's going to go.

I'm fine with the price. Yeah, I think that's, yeah, it is cheaper than it should be. That's wide receiver 15. He'll probably go ahead of Garrett. He'll probably go ahead of London. He'll probably go ahead of Marv. We'll go ahead of AJ Brown. Which is gross, but I agree.

I think 15 to 12 is probably better For me where I'll feel comfortable drafting JSN He had a breakout year And a very much down year for wide receivers I've talked about that extensively We'll see what happens at the quarterback position We'll see what happens with their pass rate over expected next year A lot of things went right for him

We've talked about it a ton I don't need to talk about it a whole bunch Because I'm going to have people in my DMs again why does he were 15 anywhere from like 10 to 15 in any given draft is where I could see JSN going a JSN believer is probably taking

them in like the top eight top seven I'm not but somebody will let's go 310 between two here I'll take I'll take breeze but do don't don't yeah I'm not taking a breeze all yeah it's a it's a

almost two round or round and a half a discount from last year. I think RB 6. Yeah, the RB price, but that's just because he's at the 310. But he's at the 310. Like that's where we get lost, right? Where it's like, we're kind of get lost in the RB thing. It's like, oh, you got him at RB6.

He has to 310 though. Like, look at the players. I was looking at T. Higgins. And I know, like, I have teams I would trade T. Higgins to get Brise. And then all these receivers are here all the same. So yeah, you still get him at RB6, but you're getting him in almost the fourth round. when he was going right with Bijon and Gibbs last year.

And the only thing that, like, he looked a little less explosive this year, I will say. A lot less. But he did still have a lot of good games, like, on the ground. They did have exposed enough that they got behind so much. They couldn't really use them. The team was a mess. Like, and yeah, will it just be a mess next year?

Yeah. Probably. Like, they probably will be. But they have Soss Gardner, Garrett Wilson, and Brees. all end rookie deals at the same time. The other two, Wilson and Gardner have 50-year options. Brice does, and he was an early second-round pick. They're not going to go to pay all three.

Brice is probably the one that doesn't get paid. So his future on the Jets is probably a lot more short-lived than the other two. And like that's a narrative, I get, but he's already going into year. He's going into year four, and they're not going to be able to pay all three of those players. And it's not. And I don't think all three-lost players want to stay there. So, I don't know. I think Bree's still really good.

At the 3-10, I think it's a pick that even if you lose on it, I don't think you lose that much. That's fair. I'm just when a running back starts looking like that and some other options, I'm generally just going to pass. I know, oh, shocker, Tom says he's passing when a running back. Yeah, I know. I know.

I'm going to go with a player I think should be drafted over him. And I think it's kind of odd that he's not drafted yet. I'll take Roma Dunezee here. I'll take Rome at 311. He has. has some of the worst completed air yards luck in the league is the most, if I'm not mistaken, for unrealized air yards. Get the ball a ton.

Fat, Keenan Allen. I'm hoping is that a Chicago? Talk about a sophomore. I think I'm more willing to bet on Rome at his price than Marvin at his price. I disagree. I'm way lower on Rome, like way lower. I don't think you should be in the top four rounds. Well, I remember you saying that when we're with Mike.

Yeah. We look at the surrounding data with Rome. It has not been that bad. Caleb has been ass. As I stated, I think he's been ass. You're talking about sophomore receivers do always get a bump. Look at the other receivers. It's like, okay, we like T. Higgins.

We love him. DJ Moore is there. He was used like a tight end. We'll get a new offense in. Pittman Jr. No, Iuk, Waddle, Alave Hill. Debo. There's a better sophomore, though.

Oh, there is a bit. better sophomore. I'm going to change that. I forgot about him. It's Ladd. You're correct. You're correct. See, I was talking it through. I shouldn't have said that. I could have saved them for my 312. Like, it looked really smart. I could do a shit on you. But I helped you out. See, I'm really in it. I'm actually really nice. You're always just worried about being able to shit on people, Buck. I'm not worried about. That's why I gave you the pick. That's why I hoped you out. You still had to say it. No, I think you're right. Lad's probably going to go a little bit higher. But that's probably where he's going to go. Oh, I didn't do that.

that right. Let me just fix this. Fix this. So we'll go lad here. Still though, I mean, again, I would just take Rome next, but I get it. 311, you should probably go ahead of Breece Hall, brother, but maybe even ahead of JSN. I don't know. I think that might be. I don't think he'll go before J.S.N. But maybe we

overdrafted A.J. Brown looking at this. You know what? We'll do a quick review when we're done. So we'll go lad here at 311. Who do you want at 312? Um, can I get the whole turn? No. You can never get the whole turn. Okay, I'll take Dak. That's a disgusting pick.

That's disgusting. You're so disrespectful. How? I would take Brock Purdy over deck. Yeah, whatever. I'll take Rome. There we go. I made my case.

4-1. We're getting Rome. Let's talk about the third round here. We went love at 3-1. He was the quarterback. six, seven, eight, nine, ten. This is a quarterback 11. He had quarterback 12 here, 13 and 14.

London Harrison, Brown, J.S.N. McConkey wide receiver, 16. I think it's going to be a good price. I think you'll go a little higher in most drafts. We've got Hall, H.N. and Barclay going off the table here. That's six running backs through three. Got Rome coming off the board at four one. Now, I don't love the price.

I just think in. drafts these guys get elevated a little higher than maybe they should, which leads me to another guy that we're going to talk about. But let's hear what you got. I will take Purdy now. Interesting. Like, I'm just not drafting any of these guys. It's so funny when you sit here and you're looking,

although, I mean, you got Mahomes, St. Brown, McConkey, Purdy. Team 11 looks nice. Team 11 looks kind of nice. It looks good. I mean, Team 10 looks good too. I'm going to ruin that a little bit, probably. Buck's going to say it's ass, I think. Actually, this is tough for me at the 4-3.

This is really tough for me, but I'm going to take Xavier Worthy. In the fourth round? I think he'll go in the fourth round. Oh, my goodness. Do you know why I think he'll go in the fourth round? I don't think you should go in the fourth round. I think there's another Kansas City cheese receiver

that's going to be better than him next. year, but him getting 11 targets, 11 targets, and nine targets to end the year and having 19, 20, and 22 fantasy points will be enough to boost his ADP from round 5 to round 4. People are not going to look at how these are coming, right? They're not going to think about how he's getting the screen game, the out of the backfield stuff. He's the short extension of the run game right now. All the stuff I was worried about.

He doesn't run well through contact on his routes. He gets rerouted easily. Still does. His deep ball tracking is garbage. Still is. We've seen that. Cost him big. But the chiefs are deploying them in a way that he is successful.

And maybe Kelsey is retired at the end of this year because he has looked like me running around out there when he does. And with Rice coming back to take over that role again, I think both of these players are going to end up thriving. I think he's going to get pushed up the board. I think what wide receiver 17, 18, probably where worthy is going to go. I hate it. I think it's disgusting. But I think that's where he's. I think that's where he's going to go.

Zay Flowers, good player, but does they have the upside of worthy? I don't know. Alave, we don't know what's going on with him. Tyree Kill looks like he slowed down. Waddle was phased out of the offense by a running back. I mean, Devontas Smith, Addison is the number two.

It doesn't matter how good anyone thinks he is. He's alpha-cucked, no matter what. Jaden Reed was so garbage down the end of the year. Keep in mind, people remember the positives from a player at the end of the year, more than they remember the negatives for the rest of the year. I talk about this all the time. A player with a good finish, an elite finish, a great finish, is going to be better remembered than a player who was above average to good an entire season.

Because it's those final few weeks of a year where it's the playoffs, and it's in your mind, it's in your memory. That alone can carry dynasty value. dynasty weight. Keep in mind, these are not going to be what the ranks are. It's just when I'm looking at a draft board, this is how I think it's probably going to shake out early. Keeping in mind, I haven't done a draft yet. That's why when I'm looking at this, yeah, in this one it says he's going at wide receiver 27. I don't see that happening in the draft sample size. I just do not see that happening. I just don't. Like in this, it says Derek Henry is going RB10 in the fourth

round. No. Tyron. No. Can't do it. Won't do it. Go ahead. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that's pretty expensive. I'll take, I'll take T. Higgins. See, I thought he might be who you were going to take. I wanted to take the last few picks. I think his best spot is still in Cincinnati. It is. Team nine, Lamb, Bejon, J.S.N. Higgins. That's pretty nice. That's pretty nice. It's nice. Yeah, I think is, I think his best, best place. is in Cincinnati. I think he gets iffy anywhere else. Fourth round, it's kind of just where he goes.

Four or five. I mean, you're happy with him if he got him there. I won't lie. May 1st, August 31st, you actually got him at a discount in the sixth round. Not if you're in bucks drafts, but shout out. Yeah, I got to take T. Higgins every time. Every time.

Every time, T. Every time T. I'm going to go with another wide receiver here, and I'm going to go with Zay Flowers. I think he'll come off the board sometime in this fourth round and this will be a heavy wide receiver round. I'm going to go with Zay Flowers here.

The idea that McCaffrey and Henry are going to go here seems kind of crazy to me, but that's what it looks like in the small sample size of drafts that we have on Dynasty Data Lab. I just disagree entirely. Yeah, I like this fourth round. This would be a decent little spot to trade back and get a couple of picks

unless one of the picks is Xavier worthy. I'll be trading up from the sixth and fifth round to get into the fourth round. Yeah, I agree with that. I will take, you know, there's really a player that should be going in the fourth round. Oh, your boy is still here. My boy is here. I'll let you decide on where your boy goes. I won't take him because I want you to pick him.

Yeah, because he, based on our conversations, he probably shouldn't be here. I want you to pick it. I'm not going to pick him. I will take, I could make a really, ugly picked. I really think should be a pick here, but I'm not going to do it. I'll pick Smithy. I don't like this pick at all. I don't like this pick at all. I'd think I'd rather take your boy, Jordan Addison, over Devante. Yes, it's all these receivers. They're all like the same. So, okay, I'm going to take Bo Nix. There he is, yeah. Was that the one? Yeah.

Yeah, I'm going to go Bo Nix. Bo Nix has been unbelievable. He's been unbelievable, sophomore quarterback that runs, I think he's going to go here. Talk about guys playing down the stretch. I mean, 29 points, 27 points, 22, after the buy. And then 17, 25, 38, 21, 19, 37. Damn.

This guy's got upside for days. He has the coach, not running as much down the stretch, but hasn't needed to. Give me bow knicks in the fourth round. If you look at the team, it'll be like Chase, Gentie, A.J. Brown, and Bo Nix is like, that's a start that I could really see happening. Yeah, I think he goes higher than that, but that was the- definitely goes above Devante Smith. Well, yeah, I did that on purpose.

I was going to pick him. Probably goes ahead of worthy N.T. Probably ahead of Purdy. Definitely ahead of DAC. He'll go ahead of Lawrence. Lawrence is there for a bit. Yeah, I'll take, I'll take around a shoot. that's a great that's what I was taking next

Rashi the forgotten I almost forgot about Rishie Rice until I started watching every Ravens game this year and I started by watching the Chiefs game obviously and then seeing Rishie Rice just be really good made me want to cry so sad about all the money that was lost out on because we lost

Rishie made me very sad as a person I'm still not totally over it if I'm being honest I'll take a player that I think is going to be overdrafted, but I'll take Karen Williams here. Karen Williams probably goes right around here. I'm looking at the small sample size of startups that we have to look at and use a third round pick.

There's a couple other guys here too, one that I really don't agree with. But you will, I'll take, Kyron Williams at 4'9 is pretty nice. I think the Blake Quorum stuff was kind of funny. I think we've got at least one. more year of elite, Kyron. All right. Yeah, I'll take Jonathan Taylor.

I mean, if we're taking that's the next one. Yeah, that was the next. I'll take the guy that at least has like a certified job and it's better. So I'll take Jonathan Taylor. Don't know about better, but Taylor. Oh, certainly a better player. Are you kidding? Kyler Williams is awful.

It doesn't matter if he's awful. His fantasy production is not awful. That's what matters. But the, you've got Kyron and Taylor going back to back in the small sample size in the third round. it looks like. Yeah, at the very beginning of the third round.

So this would be a down swing from the, again, very small sample size that we're getting. I would normally just want to click Sam Leporta here in the fourth round. The back half of the year, Sam Leporta has been better, way better. He's now the tight end eight after getting 7, 10, 7, 8 targets, 5, 7, 4, and six for catches, well over 200 yards, multiple touchdowns towards the back half of the year. Finishing with a respectable 53 for 6, 63, and 7. Obviously, the start of the year was an absolute punch to the face for him. I don't know how much of that is injury, but he went from 120 targets all the way down to 76.

But he is at a position where scarcity matters, but I'm not going to do that. instead I'm going to piss buck off. Am I going to piss buck off? I'm going to pick Anthony Richardson. Oh, man. I'll tell you why. Not because, again, keeping in mind, this isn't necessarily where I want to take people. I think he's going to go here.

Keep in mind, Trey Lance was awful, terrible. He looked terrible. And even after Purdy started games and looked good, Tray Lance didn't fall past the fourth and fifth round for a while. It took a while until it really set in that he wasn't starting. Richardson is going at the 112. Had come in and had good fantasy games. I think he's a starter again next year.

I think people are still going to draft him for his quote upside. And at the second QB on your team, not your first, is a lot more palatable. I think this is right around the range. I think he's going to go. Could I be dead wrong? Absolutely. But I think people will chase Anthony Richardson upside like they're chasing a dragon.

Yeah, obviously I wouldn't drive Anthony Richardson like at all. I don't disagree with what you're saying. I could see someone taking them. It's like the whole like Justin Fields thing, even like people. In the small sample size, Buck, third round QB14, ahead of Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah, I don't know what league's that. is.

It's just the sample size I have to work with on Dynasty Data Lab that I'm comparing it to. People are going to chase this production like crack. But I mean, yeah, like he might open the season as a starter. I don't think he finishes it. I think he's truly...

That's fair. I truly think he's one of the worst quarterbacks like I've ever seen. I'm not even being like funny at this point. And I don't want to have the Anthony Richardson discussion again. I think if a quarterback is going here, I think if a quarterback is going here,

it really honestly should be Baker. if we're going to take a quarterback. But the Anthony Richardson thing, like, yeah, someone will pick him just like when people were picking Justin Fields when he was in between teams, like before he got traded to Steelers and people still thought he'll get traded to, you know, whoever. I don't even remember who the Raiders, I think. But yeah, so, yeah, I obviously disagree with it. But your point, I don't think is necessarily wrong.

I really think Baker should be in the top four rounds, honestly. I have the last pick here in the fourth round. Also, I'm sorry. So bear with me. Like, I'm sorry. I'm not feeling awesome. I'm sorry if I, like, was really shitty. But I, for my last pick, I just, do I want to respect Baker Mayfield?

Do I want to respect somebody else? Keeping in mind, look who, look who's already been drafted. I have been putting that into. Oh, they have two quarterbacks, but, all right. I didn't know we were doing that fully. I will pick, I could pick a really, a memes player here because I took Jonathan Taylor. I could pick a meme, but I won't. I will pick Jordan Addison

Interesting pick George Pickens is right around where Dallas is But I think Addison is I think that's high I think that's high He's alpha cucked He is

It's just always hard for me to take that guy there Yeah He has at least eight targets In those last like six or seven games Yeah I get it I get it I totally understand Just to me it's high

It's still just a little but then you look who else is on the board it's like yeah it makes sense iuk no metcalf not anymore makes me really sad Coleman no jaden reed no I want to mention a couple of players that we didn't talk about that I think are going to get way

pushed up the board in this fifth round we're not drafting the fifth round we don't have time to draft the fifth round I guess we could no we don't have time I can't do it I want to do it we don't have time but there's a couple players that I think are going to get pushed into this fifth round, whether I like it or not. One of them being Jerry Judy.

Oh, man. He's going to get pushed up. You know he's getting pushed up. Pro Bowl there, Jerry Judy. That's right. You know he's getting pushed up. Now, he deserves to move up, but back to the fifth round, I don't know. Sam Leporta is going to get drafted in this round.

He probably gets drafted a little higher, honestly. I think Mark Andrews probably gets back up here. Ken Walker. I think he gets back up here. Ken Walker, for sure. Bucky Irving, will. in the fifth round. Chase Brown is going to get up here as well,

I think for sure. Yeah, and the QBs. Some QBs for sure. Now, this is where I also think guys like, Tet McMillan, I say that name right, Tet. Yeah, Timon. Timak.

The only T-Mack I recognize is Trades McGrady, sir. You put some respect on that name. Toronto Raptors legend, Tracy McGrady. So I'm live. I'm live. Had a pair of T-MACs back when I knew ball and had swag, as some kids would say. Not kids I grew up with it because they called me a loser.

But that's the only team that I recognize. And Shador is probably getting up here too. Let's be real. Whoever the QB one is, maybe even a Cam Ward. But some picks there that I didn't see fitting in. But that's a fun exercise. I think it's a fun exercise to sit down and really, now look, the Trevor Lawrence thing,

I've never taken him in the third round. I just think if like Ben Johnson does go there I think his ADP gets stacked way up so yeah I think he's I think he's gonna get pushed right back up it'll be another wave of Trevor Lawrence believers getting pushed up I think Rashie Rice is still gonna be a discount but when you look at this what stands out to you

I think mind the fourth round I had Rome we had Purdy Worthy Higgins Lauer Smitty, Nix, Rice, Kyrin Taylor, Richardson, Addison. I will say, like, this is the first time I've looked at something like this, like the first time I had something in front of me. So some players got a little lost in the shuffle, like they were way far down. So guys like Bo Nicks and stuff, like we recognize won't, like he'll be higher and things like that. But this is like, you know, this is like a fun exercise.

I think the biggest, I think the biggest takeaway is probably just probably the fourth-round receivers. I think they're really good. And there's some players, like, you know, Marv is going to be, like, probably the most polarizing player of the offseason, one of them. It's not really a lot of the, probably a lot of the second-year players, especially because of the upcoming rookie draft just not being as good. Obviously, I didn't, I didn't really know we were drafting rookies at the beginning, like this coming class, but it wouldn't have changed much. I don't think this, I don't think this class is great. So like you said, probably just the McMillan and and Shador or Cam,

whoever it goes, that would be the only ones. I'd probably make it into this round, or into this low mock draft. Who would you have had Gentie above? I would have, like, Gentie probably. Herb? No, I think where Gentile's going is fine, yeah. Yeah, I nailed that.

Thank you. That's what I was getting at. Absolutely nailed it. No, I think you're right. This is the first time I've really sat down and looked at ADP, looked at any sort of draft. I've needed to take a break. But yeah, I've needed to take a break.

It just was a crazy end of the year. So seeing stuff like this has been, it's been very good. It's very interesting who I would click, who I wouldn't. It's going to help getting right back into the rankings. Yeah, I can't wait to do this. I can't wait to do this more. I can't wait to do this more coming up.

I'm hoping to get one with, you, me, Ryan, Theo, everyone ranking. I would like to get in on one. And just kind of see what's up. If you guys want more of this, we're going to do a lot of these with subs. We're going to do a lot of these as Discord only type things.

But I feel like this was just a really good way to touch base with ADP. Yeah, I was going to say, and if you guys like this, if you guys like this, we can do rounds five to eight too. We could we can do that if you guys like this. I'll be better next week. was a little rough for me.

I'm not going to lie, but I got it. Shout out to you. You made it. You pushed through. People may not notice a big difference in your voice, but you have been dying. This was like first wave COVID level thought you were going to die. Yeah, I was, so if some of my analysis,

and if I sounded like I didn't give a shit or whatever, if I sounded like disrespectful, it wasn't, it didn't mean that. But we can do rounds five to eight next week. You guys won it. I also have something special planned for the next couple weeks that we talked about. So I'll have that. I'll have that coming out around, probably around Super Bowl week. So we'll have that a little something fun that we talked to me and Tom talked about.

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