Fantasy Football Daily - 2025 Rookie Flag Plants: Must Draft Players, Best Values & Sleepers with Pat Kerrane

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

🚀 Fantasy Points is gearing up for the 2025 NFL Draft with Theo Gremminger, and special guest Pat Kerrane 🏈! Join us as we break down the fantasy football needs of every NFC team 🔥. Stay ahea...d of the game with expert analysis, insights, and all things fantasy football 📊. Don’t miss out – your ultimate guide to the NFL Draft starts here! 🎯 Here’s what we’re diving into this week: Who is the 2nd overall pick in Superflex Dynasty Rookie Drafts this year? Which veteran Running Backs are in most danger of getting nuked during the NFL Draft? What player will survive the wreckage and emerge as a post-draft winner? (Pat’s gut feeling is Chase Brown survives!) Staying with RB – Pat’s current RB rankings Let’s talk Skattebo 🏃 Pat’s favorite sleeper RB (a guy you’re more excited about than consensus) A rookie WR has finished inside the Top 6 scorers at the position in PPR in 4 of the last 5 seasons. Who from this class can accomplish that feat, and on what team? Pat’s favorite WR(s) in this class – flag plant your guy(s) 🌱 BONUS: Re-rolling 2025 WRs – MHJ, Rome Odunze, or others? Is Cam Ward underrated for fantasy? Not much enthusiasm for what seems like a lock 1st overall pick with a gunslinger mentality and enough mobility. Talking Tight End: Tyler Warren & Colston Loveland enthusiasm 📈 Let’s talk Harold Fannin Jr. Pat’s bold prediction for the 2025 Fantasy Football Season – a player he LOVES at their current ADP 🏆 You won’t want to miss this jam-packed episode with Pat Kerrane! Where to find us: http://twitter.com/PatKerrane http://twitter.com/TheOGFantasy Join the Discord here: https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/discord#/ Find Our Podcasts here: https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/podcasts#/ Subscribe to FantasyPoints for FREE: https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/ FantasyPoints Website - https://www.fantasypoints.com NEW! Data Suite - https://data.fantasypoints.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FantasyPts Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@fantasypts #fantasypoints #nfl #fantasyfootball #dynastyfantasyfootball #FantasyFootballAdvice #dynastypoints #dynasty Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:26 from the NFL draft. I'm joined today by Pat Corain of legendary upside and also ship chasing. Pat's been grinding away content all offseason long. Pat, how are you doing today? Doing good. Yeah, excited to talk some fans football with you. Yeah, so we're going to try to hit a number of rookie topics. We are not going to do a rookie mock draft.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I'll be doing that over on the School of Scott Feed with Scott Barrett and Rich Haribar a little later this week. So if you're dying for another rookie mock draft, we've got you covered. But today we're basically going to talk about some of the players that Pat values and maybe a couple of players he doesn't value in this particular rookie class. bird's eye view, how excited are you about this class, Pat? I think it's probably like slightly weaker overall than some of the recent classes, but I am someone who tends to get excited about the wide receivers, and the wide receiver class just isn't quite as strong. But the recent movement that maybe Travis Hunter is a wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:02:24 certainly changes the strength of the wide receiver class a little bit, because I do have him at wide receiver one. And I also think Ted McMillan has probably gotten overly criticized. in the recent months. I think he's still a pretty strong wide receiver prospect. So, I mean, overall, I think this is a good class. You have the running back class being the highlight. And I kind of quibble, like, slightly with the depth of the class,
Starting point is 00:02:51 if it's framed in certain ways. I don't think that, like, the middle group is, like, extremely strong. Certainly if you compare it to something like 2017, I think the kind of guys you take in, like, the middle of a front of the first. first round of a dynasty rookie draft. I think that was quite a bit stronger than a 27. So I think 2017 is quite a bit stronger than this year. But I think Jentee is an incredible prospect.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And I think there's a bunch of really strong depth more in kind of that early second round, mid second round rookie pick type of range. Yeah. And for dynasty managers listening, there's been an argument that third round picks could be the most valuable that they've been ever. Yeah. Would you buy into that as well because of the quality depth of the running back spot? I would buy into that.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I just did a three-round mock over on Establishe Edge with John Daigle and Anthony Amico. And we also have done some rookie mocks like over on ship chasing. And you're really struck. When you get into the third, it's like there's guys, not that I, I mean, there's a bunch of dudes that I want. But even beyond that, I want them about as much as I've wanted guys who went three or four or five picks ago. So it just gets really flat right in that kind of late second to the, you know, almost through the end of the third, especially in Superflex. So, yeah, I think third round picks are kind of a sweet spot right now.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Maybe the, it kind of flattens out a little bit earlier than I'd like. I think even by the late first, you're kind of certainly rather have your choice than a, than the 301. You know, 112 is better than the 301. But it's not like the massive, massive drawoff it sometimes is. Yeah, I think there is some argument, especially in deeper dinosaurs. leagues right now to be able to trade out of like the 112, get those two picks in the mid, maybe mid second, and on top of it a late second, take double taps. A lot of years, that's not
Starting point is 00:04:46 the case. This year it does seem like that. You mentioned Ashton Genti. We're not going to waste anybody's time. He's a special player. We would both agree that he's the 101 in all formats. And a guy that when it comes down to it, when we get to the end of the summer, will probably be a top 10 pick in FFPC main events, would just be my gut feel. How about the number two pick? If you're on the clock in a super flex rookie mock draft, right now, who's your 102? Right now it's Amarian Hampton because I think he's going to go first round. I think there's a chance that he lands in an awesome landing spot.
Starting point is 00:05:22 You know, I think the Broncos are both live and, you know, it's hard not to imagine that once you've imagined it once. So, yeah, I think he's probably the 102. I think he's kind of a weak 102 and super flex because normally we would take the quarterback. I wouldn't fault anyone for taking Cam Ward. I do think he goes number one to the Titans. And I think there's a decent ceiling there. But he's not like a true dual threat guy. He is an aggressive downfield passer.
Starting point is 00:05:53 But like his deep numbers aren't off the charts or anything. So you're probably getting a pretty good pocket passer if he hits. and that like if I'm in the type of league where I think I can kind of cobble together a quarterback without spending the 102 on it, I would be tempted to go Hampton for sure, but even a guy like Tet McMillan and frankly even a guy like Travis Hunter. If he, you know, if we head in the direction of him like I'm a wide receiver and maybe I'll play a little bit of cornerback secondary to the wide receiver role, I think he's worthy of the 102.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Yeah, that's a very interesting. And Ted McMillan, if you pay attention, to the odds, the Vegas odds, over under is like 17 and a half. So all this sort of doom and gloom about him falling in the draft, I don't really buy it because when I look inside of the first 17 picks, I think there's a lot of potential landing spots for him. Dallas at 12 would be very, very interesting. Carolina is still at 8 would be a slam dunk pick.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Very interesting one there. Let's go backtrack to your Omari and Hampton projection. So I'm with you. He's the 102 for me. Denver is the spot. where everybody's like, let's get our favorite rookie running back there. That's the sweet spot. It's a clear path to early production and also a lot of targets out of the back field.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Where would be another couple of landing spots that would get you really hyped about Omar and Hampton? Specifically, there is a little bit of juice with Washington using the 29th overall pick on a running back. Any other spots that sort of kind of would get you really, really hyped about him? Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting year. because I think there's a lot of spots that you can get excited about. I've seen it, like Todd McShay had him mocked at one point to the Bears at 10, and that was obviously with Gentie off the board. I think he had him six to the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But that would be awesome. From a dynasty perspective, you know, there's been talk that like, what if the 49ers were to take Gentie at 11? What if they were to take Hampton? You know, I doubt that one, but like there's spots even, I bring that up because it's like, that would suck for, you know, redraft purposes.
Starting point is 00:08:03 We'd have to discount him from where he's going now. But you think about long term, that's maybe like the spot for running back production. Dallas at 12, I think they'd probably go receiver over Hampton, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. I also think even if he falls out of the first round, you circle back around. And, you know, let's say the Raiders were to take Hampton in the early second if he were to fall that far. Ultimately, I don't think he does. I think he goes first round.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Chargers would be another one. I'll throw out there at pick 22. The Steelers is probably like the landmine, I guess, where we're not like that excited about the offense. But even there, they're going to run a bunch. And, you know, he would be the early down back for sure. You know, so I don't see, I don't really, I mean, we always get surprised, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:57 maybe the cults take a running back for some reason. You know, that would suck. That would be awful. That'll be very, very awful. Interesting one. And I heard your take on this, Chargers could potentially take a running back. That's one that Brett Whitefield's also brought up when we podcasted together. It seems like the market is sort of writing that off.
Starting point is 00:09:19 But with the contract for Najee Harris, it's really a one-year deal for Najee. And that's a coaching staff that wants to use the running backs heavily. that would be a really, really fun one for Hampton. I think it would be like getting over the initial shock and then painting a picture that he ends up being just straight up better than Naji. And then in year two, you can envision a scenario where we're taking Hampton inside of like the early second in redraft in that sort of offense. So I like that one a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Do you think we could see a third running back sneak into the first round? I would say kind of more around the senior bowl. There was some talk of Treviont-Henderson maybe going into the first round. I kind of doubt that he, that he, but I don't think it's like a zero percent chance. I mean, I probably put it between like five and ten percent that Henderson goes first round. I don't think Caleb Johnson's going to go first round. There was, you know, talk of him as an early second round pick early on. Seems like he's falling a bit. Probably still goes like late second round, maybe early third. Judkins, I get, I mean, he tested well enough where you could see it, I guess,
Starting point is 00:10:26 but he strikes me as more of a second rounder. So I think it's, my read is that it's Gentie and Hampton are basically, I mean, Genties locked in and Hampton's pretty much locked in. And then Henderson could maybe sneak in. Yeah, exciting times. And you have to wonder about NFL teams really valuing. And I've heard you make this argument. I've heard a lot of people make this argument that we're really chasing that big playability.
Starting point is 00:10:50 We're chasing what Jamir Gibbs did. It seems like it's the right environment for a team to pull the trigger on a Trayvion Henderson, sort of this explosive big play threat, high value touch guy. I think it's the right year for that. So I've been pretty strong with saying I do think there's going to end up being three because I think someone's going to maneuver their way around to get a Trayvion Henderson. It's not all happiness and joy when it comes to dynasty and when it comes to early bestball drafting.
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Starting point is 00:12:53 And I just was like, all right, I guess I'm just going to. I kind of go all the way. So, you know, I talked to Corey Kroski Merritt, talk, you know, Kyle Monongai. After Kyle Mononga, I was like, I think I'm done. Tap out. But I think I wrote up 27 running backs all told in three different parts. So that's, that's all up there. I've talked about the top quarterbacks, talked about the tight ends. I'm going to be working on my wide receiver articles, which will be out on the site. And we also have some good content over on the site by Matt Irby, Daniel Raz, Michael Doobner, Sacrilegious is going to have an article coming out pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:13:28 So lots of good stuff over there. Yeah, I highly recommend your work. It's always very strong. And the written work, you go very deep in your article. So it's like very extensive. Do you have a favorite sleeper running back? You've gone down to running back 27. Is there a guy that might go pretty late on day three that you could see yourself being
Starting point is 00:13:50 really, really excited about in this potential to get the opportunity as a pro? from a best ball perspective i've gotten pretty excited about r j harvey who i think could be a day two pick easily i think round three though i don't think he would be i don't think really much chance of getting it to round two because he's he's like 24 years old and he's a bit undersized and he's probably kind of more of a complimentary type back but he's the type of guy because he's so explosive and he can catch passes he's versatile that i think he's going to improve press coaches and kind of they're going to be like let's let's get this guy out on the field and if they discover later that like okay yeah he's like under 210 he's probably not going to be our true
Starting point is 00:14:36 lead back that might be after a pretty fun rookie season and kind of the mold of a Michael Carter which I know is not I'm a long term perspective you know very bullish but Michael Carter was a pretty big hit as a rookie um he's the guy that I've been kind of thing like who which of this deep running back class like who hits the ground running and matters right away. He and Dylan Samson are the two I kind of feel most comfortable with of the guys like beyond the top six that we generally talk about. From like kind of a more dreaming on the long term upside, DJ Giddens and Bachel Tutin are the two guys that are both. They both have profiles of if you were to give them a backfield, it might be really good. Like they might be really productive.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Bachel Tootin was a total workhorse at Virginia Tech. D.J. Giddens kind of does every everything pretty well. And it's 212, so he's not small. But I'm worried that both of them will be day three guys. It might take a little bit longer for them to establish themselves. But end of the season upside, you know, I am taking them in best ball for that. But also, I think in Dynasty, you know, the type of guys you can put on your bench as, let's say, mid-second round picks, maybe even later than that.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And could be a home run for you in a year or two. Yeah, no, I completely agree with you on both those guys. I disagree a little bit on the draft capital. I think especially with Tutin, I think we'll hear his name called on day two, fairly confident. Yeah, I think this is the year where NFL teams are really going to value. Again, we talked about the home running hitting ability, but also just the sheer athleticism with those two guys. When we talk about just the depth of the class and there are so many guys with positive attributes,
Starting point is 00:16:15 I think NFL teams might just push them up a little bit on their boards because next level type athletes, Tooten especially, just unbelievable performance of the combine. So we'll keep that going. Let's talk about, I'll give you. Go ahead, Pat. I'll go, I'll go a little deeper. Two guys in the article that I, that I, that I think I'm a little higher on than the market. Burchard Smith converted wide receiver transfers to SMU. And it's like a real running back there, but is also a good receiver out of the backfield. I think he's, there's a number of like receiving specialists in this class, LeQuint Allen, Marcus Yarns, Woody Marks, and Donovan Edwards would be kind of in that group.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I think Smith really stands out above those guys as someone who could actually be a 1A type of running back who is pretty good in the receiving game, but not limited to the receiving game. So someone who's still going outside the top 200 in best ball, I think he's still one, he's like one of the few real values left because the market's done a pretty good job of pricing the guys up who have upside. But I think he still has underpriced upside. And then the other guy swimming against the current of the combine is Jordan James, who people are disgusted. If you even mentioned Jordan James right now, because his Rass was like four. But, you know, it's actually better than Bucky Irvings.
Starting point is 00:17:44 So it's a low bar, low bar. It's a low bar. But, you know, he was his former teammate. And the funny thing about James is he has the lowest breakaway percentage of any running back that I have. But he has the highest success rate. And so it's like you're consistently hitting the right hole. And you listen to like Dane Brukeler's a big fan of him. Todd McShay is a fan of him.
Starting point is 00:18:07 What do they like about him? The consistency. This guy's he's churning out yards. You know, if you block four yards, he'll get you six kind of thing. And interval coaches tend to really like that. I, do I wish he had like juice past six or seven yards? Yeah, that would be cool. But he is now completely free.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And one of these guys that I could see earning a significant role as a rookie, even though, yeah, he's not, he's not athleticism. The lack of athleticism shows up on tape. One of his closest comps is Tereon Davis Price. The floor is very low. But one of his other comps is Devante Freeman. And I think that's where I, you know, it's like, yeah, actually some of these players who just are really reliable, like a Kyron Williams, kind of like a Bucky Irving, they end up earning a job over the course of a year. So let's talk veterans.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Which veterans do you think are in major, major problems right now heading into the NFL draft? Guys that if you held them in dynasty, you would consider getting out from under them, guys that are difficult clicks for you in baseball. because of the instability of their hold on a particular starter, high-end backup. Any way you want to take this question, everybody's got their answer here. You know, here are the Tyrone Tracy people. Yeah. The Chase Brown people. I mean, there's Brice Hall.
Starting point is 00:19:32 That one's been out there a lot lately. Where do you stand? Is there a player you're a little bit nervous about right now? For me, it's kind of like, what are you getting in terms of the upside? Because I guess the answer to the question of like, who's safe is like almost no one. We're talking about 25-ish running backs who could earn a piece of a backfield as rookies. You know, how many of them actually do? Less than that, you know, but let's say like 10.
Starting point is 00:20:01 There's not really 10 totally free. We don't care if this changes backfields in the league. And we also know that the draft is not perfectly efficient to where, you know, of these 25 guys, the 10 who are actually going to hit end up in just the wrong. right backfield so it doesn't cause any chaos for us. And then, of course, we're going to have to change prices and ADPs when these guys, when, you know, the guys who eventually bust, we don't know that yet. So we're going to, we're going to have to adjust just in terms of the outlook, whether or not, you know, someone ends up losing any work to these guys, right? So I think a lot of
Starting point is 00:20:36 veterans are in trouble. So to me, I'm trying to think, like, what is the upside? Like, what am I getting? So I'm actually buying Breeze Hall right now because I think the upside is still, pretty big with a player like that who I think breeze hall is really talented it kind of the narrative is really shifted against him there I think he will dust the competition that is currently on the roster braille and al was extremely inefficient last year I'm not sure he's safe from isaiah davis and i think isaiah davis is not coming for breese hall's starting jobs so um he's he's actually a buy for me i have bought bucky irving a decent amount even though i don't think he's like totally safe from from them drafting somebody uh i am
Starting point is 00:21:16 sometimes drafting Chase Brown because if it is his job, like, that's pretty valuable. So that group right now I'm willing to kind of dabble with. Chuba Hubbard, I take now that he's kind of fallen to the late fifth, early sixth. Because I don't think they probably, I think doubt it almost protects him. I don't think they're going to draft somebody. They could, but they seem a little less likely than some others. It's more once you get down to that, like, remandre Stevenson, Tony Pollard, Tyrone Tracy,
Starting point is 00:21:48 Najee Harris. I mean, these guys are not safe at all. They are not safe in the sense that, like, they could be phased out by the end of the season. And, you know, they're still going with decent capital. I do take some Jalen Warren because I like Jalen Warren. He's one of my guys. But, I mean, he's not safe either.
Starting point is 00:22:09 He's probably a little safer because of the past blocking, the past catching role that he has. He could be paired with, like, an early down guy. but you'll certainly be like, I wish I didn't take Jelen Warren in the eighth if they take a running back in round two. So I tend to have a
Starting point is 00:22:24 I tend to draft running back a little earlier right now than I might end up in Best Ballmania. I've experimented with stuff like I'll take, let's say, Brian Thomas and then like a Gentie or McCaffrey or an Achan
Starting point is 00:22:39 and then Breece in round three and then Hampton in round four. And then I'm like, I'm good. I'm good until like round 13 or 14. I'll just sit out the rest of these guys. No, I like it.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And I think these things cut both ways where these guys become major values with with what you've recently paid for them, whether it's best ball. And we're seeing an FFPC, Bruce Hall's fallen to like the late third a few times before he was sort of living at that at that two, three turn. Yeah. But yeah, if they serve, if he survives, I agree with you. This is, it could also be a lot of coach speak. I mean, I think maybe Aaron Glenn wants to use a committee approach. But at the end of the day, as long as Bruce Hall is getting those targets out of the backfield, he's going to produce.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And all the guys you mentioned all have receiving upside. I think that's sort of a was a trend for you with the guys you're targeting. Very interesting stuff. Before we wrap up running back, your thoughts on Cam Scataboo, which is a player that's been a bit polarizing in the community. A lot of people love him. I know Scott Barrett really does. your opinion on him as a prospect and added question, where do you think he goes in the NFL draft, draft capital-wise?
Starting point is 00:23:52 I think he ends up going day two exactly where is hard to say, but probably, you know, in that late round two to early to mid-round three range. He's like consistently in top 100s and he's a very specific type of running back, but he brings some real strength to the table. You see him get compared to like Toby Gerhardt and stuff. But the difference to me is that Scataboo is a really good receiver. He was an efficient receiver. He was used as a receiver.
Starting point is 00:24:27 He's also good in short yardage and a consistent runner. Much like Jordan James, after that, you cannot expect breakaway yards, right? He's not explosive in that way. but his jumps at the combine were actually awesome, like really, really strong. He runs a 4-6-540, which I would say is below the threshold or just add it. You know, if you want to add like a 0.05, he's just at 4.7. But let's say add 0.04. He's below 4.7, which I kind of think is sort of the cutoff where teams are like,
Starting point is 00:24:58 okay, that's just like too slow. But if you're below 4-7, we've seen a lot of successful guys, especially if they're bigger, which he is, good and short-yardage, which he is and versatile and can catch passes. The pass blocking, you know, that's not an area of expertise for me as far as like the family family valve, but it does kind of jump off. It's like, whoa, there's some weird technique happening here. I know Matt Waldman has broke down his pass blocking.
Starting point is 00:25:24 He kind of puts his head into the chest of guys, not what they teach you to do. So he might have to work on trust in terms of staying out there all the time in like true passing downs. but I think when he's out there, you know, they'll feel comfortable throwing to him for sure. And ultimately, I think Scadaboo was a target where he's currently going, even as like... So one thing, sometimes it's like,
Starting point is 00:25:51 you have the choice between Zach Charbonnet or Cam Scatabu, and that's if Charbonnet's fallen a little bit. And depending on the backfield, that I'm putting together in that room, I'm like, give me Charbonnet, because I don't know, like one of his worst case scenarios is that he ends up behind a back like Kenneth Walker. Like I don't know that he's going to be behind someone like that. There are some pretty wide open backfields where he could step in and be kind of a 1A type.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And then even if he's a 1B to someone, I think he's someone we'd probably draft around 120-ish because he's got that pass catching upside plus like a Charbonnet, the ability to operate as a backfield as a spot start. harder if he is behind, you know, another back in his rookie season. So if he was like a lot more expensive, then I'd be like, hey, this guy's not fast. It's pretty slow. He doesn't have any breakway yards. Like we're getting a little bit over our skis if we're, you know, paying six, seventh round
Starting point is 00:26:56 price tags for him. But we're not. And we're not even close to that. Yeah, he's definitely an interesting one. And I think that the draft capital is going to tell us an awful lot, certainly about how NFL teams value him. When you look at that range in the late second, early third, there's a ton of teams where taking a chance on Scataboo makes a lot of sense. I'll say Kansas City will have two opportunities for him at 63 and 66. They seem to like
Starting point is 00:27:21 that Kareem Hunt type profile. That'll be an interesting one. So yeah, it's how does Scatabu measure up against, you know, guys like you mentioned Tutton, you mentioned R.J. Harvey. You mentioned DJ Giddens. There's plenty of running backs in this class. with high-end speed that Scataboo doesn't have, but do teams want to value this multifaceted skill set that he has. So he's definitely an interesting one. We're going to take a quick break. We come back.
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Starting point is 00:28:21 Welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily, Theo Greminger with Pat Kouraine of legendary upside and ship chasing. Pat, we've had a ton of success from rookie wide receivers in all formats. Dynasty Redraft, certainly best ball. The last five years have been just an unbelievable run of high-end rookie-wide receiver production. We've had a rookie-wide receiver give us top six PPR scoring numbers in four of the last five years. And the one year that they didn't hit that, Garrett Wilson was still just outstanding,
Starting point is 00:28:53 especially in the second half of the season. Last year, we had two rookie-wide receivers hit that number. And that's in addition to Ladd-McConkie, who gave us 15. points per game and a number of spike weeks. If there is a rookie wide receiver in the 2025 class that's going to hit top six, or let's just call it, top 10 wide receiver one numbers, which player is it and on which landing spot? Well, I mean, the best bet is Travis Hunter.
Starting point is 00:29:22 So that's where I've been trying, because I didn't go super hard on Hunter and best ball drafts to start because I didn't know if he's going to play. wide receiver a cornerback. It seems the momentum is moving towards wide receiver and that, you know, the Browns view more as a wide receiver and the Browns are probably going to take him. But if he goes to the Giants, I think he probably plays wide receiver there too. If he falls to the Pats at four, which is very unlikely at this point, but they would definitely use him at wide receiver. So it's, we're trending towards wide receiver. He's shooting up in price and best ball. And it's like, yeah, he should. You know, he's, he's your best bet. He's the
Starting point is 00:29:58 best profile, I think. But I think Ted McMillan still has a pretty big ceiling. One guy that's like, I'll kind of make the ceiling case for it because you don't hear it a lot. But I think Emeka Ibuka has a ceiling, especially from a rookie season perspective. Because what we tend to do is like with the dynasty prospecting stuff, some of the, you know, always just going to play in the slot. You know, he's a little bit undersized.
Starting point is 00:30:31 By the way, he's the exact same size as Justin Jefferson, 6-1-202, like literally exactly the same. So it's not that small. But, you know, he was the number two, career number two at Ohio State to different wide receivers. Really, really good prospects, but still. So you tend to, he's a safe guy, doesn't have the ceiling. But he's a dude who like, what if he were to go to the Texans, you know, reunites with Stroud? and they have a much more functional offense. Last year we drafted Nico Collins in the second,
Starting point is 00:31:05 Stefan Diggs in the third, and Tankdale at the three-four turn. Abuka can't be the number two in Houston, and we're super, super excited and excited because he's very productive right away. Maybe he doesn't have like a secondary breakout into one of like the best wide receivers in the league. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:27 That's a 2026 problem. In 2025, where he's going, I think he can pay off very, very nicely. I actually had a Mecca-Buka mock to Houston in my mock draft that's dropping on fantasy points. I love that spot. And we talked about the value of the wide receiver two spot in Houston. Last year, Stefan Diggs was averaging 15 points per game in this really low A-DOT-type role that I think if you just plug a Mecca-Buka into that role, he's certainly more explosive than 29-year-old Stefan Diggs was. I like that one a lot, plus the, of course, the locker room narrative with reuniting
Starting point is 00:32:05 with his former quarterback. That's a really, really fun one. And I think that he does have it in him to be an opportunistic wide receiver one, where if everything sort of worked in his favor, maybe he ends up like a Rashi Rice was in Kansas City last year where a team says, you know what, a lot of things don't work, but what works for us is targeting a Mecca-Egbuka 150 times this season. So I like him a lot. I think that's an interesting one.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Anybody else that's sort of, and then let's backtrack for Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter in Cleveland, opposite Jerry Judy, you know, you mentioned you think that that's a high-end potential for him. Do you see him on that particular team like really, really hitting and trying to emulate what he did at Colorado? or do you think it's going to be one of these things where he's such a good wide receiver that maybe Cleveland uses him in like a nickel roll? It's hard to unwind this.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And it's really what can these NFL coaches stomach when you're talking about a completely new situation, but sort of your optimism if he does land in Cleveland, that's where I'm projecting him to go. I think that's probably where he goes. And my enthusiasm would have nothing to do really with Cleveland, except that if Cleveland's willing to play him primarily as a wider seat. To me, the situation with Hunter is, will you play wide receiver? And that is an awesome situation for Travis Hunter because he's going to be really good. So, you know, I would compare it to more like Garrett Wilson, you know, as a rookie where it's like he's breaking out in spite of his situation, really.
Starting point is 00:33:37 It's not about that this situation is setting him up for a ton of success, but they're playing him at the position that we want him to play him at. And they figure out quarterback so that it's not a total dumpster fire, whether it's getting Kirk Cousins or they get someone in the second round or they trade back into the first round and get somebody. I'm not sure, but it would just really, really be a bet on Hunter's prospect profile, which, I mean, I completely understand why. And I've been, you know, like I said, not hammering him when he was going in the hundreds, but he is absurdly discounted for how good of a prospect he is, you know, if he's actually a full-time wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Like that he has an ADP of 88 is crazy. if he's actually a full-time wide receiver. So that's where the value comes in. He's going to have to swim against the current, I think, in terms of the NFL situation, but looks capable of doing that. Yeah, he's just unbelievable. My son is eight years old, very into sports right now.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I tried to explain Travis Hunter to him because he saw him in the Dick's sporting goods, ad that constantly ran during the Final Four, and I'm like, that's Travis Hunter. He's like, why are there two of him? And I said it's because he plays cornerback and wide receiver, and nobody else does that in the league. I said it's sort of like,
Starting point is 00:34:50 my son sort of likes the Jets. We live on Long Island. I said it's like Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner, if they were the same guy. And just for an eight-year-old, it's mind-blowing. That is kind of mind-blowing to me. Yeah, it's insane. And I think that there is more,
Starting point is 00:35:06 it's a self-preservation of NFL coaches. I think we're really rooting for that as fantasy managers, where I care about my job. Therefore, if Travis has it in him, let's let him play every single snap. and it works really well until it doesn't. And certainly we're taking on a huge risk of, you know, injury when you're doubling the snaps and playing both sides of the ball.
Starting point is 00:35:28 But it'll be a fun ride with Hunter. He's certainly an overwhelmingly talented guy and a wonderful story. Let's take a step back. You know, obviously you're a former best ball mania winner, overall winner. You cover a lot of best ball topics. And we have a lot of redraft listeners here. But this is absolutely peak dynasty season. re-rolling picks has become just a common term.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Essentially, I drafted a guy last year as a rookie. I have a chance this year to trade him for maybe take 10 cents off a dollar, 20 cents off of the dollar, but I have an opportunity to essentially repick. Marvin Harrison Jr. was a guy that a lot of people were taking ahead of Malik neighbors, certainly ahead of Brian Thomas and Lab McConkey. A little bit disappointing as a rookie, not a catastrophic season.
Starting point is 00:36:16 He had eight touchdown catches, not what we signed up for. Roma Dunzei, very, very similar. Adunzei was going right around where Brock Bowers was going, certainly ahead of Brian Thomas. He only had three weeks that mattered in terms of best ball perspective. If you had an opportunity to sort of re-roll those guys for, let's say, Tet McMillan goes 12 overall to Dallas, a spot that I think is reasonable. Are you doing that? Are you trading one of those guys for a Tet? Or are you valuing the profile last year in a much stronger wide receiver class more and saying, I want to go into the season and see what these guys can do and maybe an improved situation, certainly with a Dunezay.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And with Marvin Harrison Jr., it's just a rational coaching, maybe a year of development. I would not be trading Marvin Harrison away. I think he was good enough to where, you know, it wasn't great, but 1.6, 3 yards per out run, you know, established himself as the clear wide receiver one, not. the number one target really, as Trey McBride was. But, you know, if you look at like target share and stuff, they were, they were comparable. It did start to kind of tilt away from Harrison down the stretch, which was concerning. Because my weekly article, I was, I was like, hey, you know, let's keep the faith here.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And then the faith got harder and harder to keep as the season went on with Harrison. But he's someone that I'm, I'm targeting in round three of best ball drafts. And, you know, Tett's not going there. and, you know, he's going like round four slash five. So it's not a huge, huge discount. But my thing with Harris is like, okay, so to go to Adunze, I would, I would cash in a dunzee for Tet McMillan, depending on the situation. Like purely from a value protection standpoint, I'd rather just move to Tet.
Starting point is 00:38:10 From if I was like a competing team, I think I'd stick with Odunze. I do think with the Dunezay, it's a kind of make or break season from a dynasty value perspective. Like this is put up or shut up now. And I know it's only year two, but he's not going to be viewed as a future star if he doesn't succeed with Ben Johnson, you know, and the line's fixed. And Caleb, Caleb, William. I mean, frankly, like, what if Caleb Williams struggles? And it's like, oh, quarterback's now an issue. there's a lot of ways for us to feel scared about Roma Dunzei after this season
Starting point is 00:38:49 that would really affect his price. And he had 1.18 yards per route run. It was not impressive. I mean, didn't really establish himself over Keenan. You're kind of like, I mean, I'm hoping Keenan doesn't come back because I'm like, I just don't want to deal with that headache. Like, I shouldn't even be worried about that. If the Cardinals signed Keenan Allen, I'd be like, who cares?
Starting point is 00:39:08 If the Bears signed Keenan Allen, be like, oh, oh. And especially considering it was Caleb Williams who was favoring Keenan Allen when they went to a much higher pass volume offense in the second half of the year. I made that exact same point with the Dunezay yesterday on a podcast where it's like, yeah, I think it's a ton of pressure on him. His dynasty stock could crater. And I think what's interesting is the dynasty marketplace has a considerable gap now between Adunze and D.J. Moore. And if we're betting on the Ben Johnson offense really paying. off. Like DJ Moore is a guy that I think actually is a real value right now in all formats because if this offense, you know, does what we think it could do under Ben Johnson, maybe DJ
Starting point is 00:39:51 Moore just continues being the dominant force there. A dunze gets a little bit better, but is really more of a complimentary wide receiver too. So very interesting one there. Wide receiver wise, is there any other players that are sort of your guys where you really love the profile and you maybe could be you know any way you want to take this question pat is there another one of these wide receivers um that you think will separate themselves from the pack and be a strong fantasy asset in this 2025 class uh for the rookie class yeah um well not there's not a ton of guys that i feel great and this would be where i you know i'd say that the that part of the the rookie drafts that we're used to being, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:37 much stronger than the third round isn't as much. And it's because, like, you know, Luther Burden, I think, is kind of boom-bust. His comps are like hilariously. It's like Jalen Rager and Justin Jefferson. I'm like, oh, okay. Well, what do I do with that? You know, it's a really, yeah, really wide range of outcomes for him. But, you know, you're going to have to pay for Luther Burden.
Starting point is 00:41:00 He'll probably go mid to late first round in rookie drafts. there's guys later that I'm like mostly betting on draft capital with. So I'm kind of into Jaden Higgins because that doesn't feel like, you know, in best ball especially, people just are not baking in that he's now looking very likely to go second round and probably early second round. Jalen Knoll has been someone I've been targeting for draft capital purposes. But like once all that draft capital gets baked in, you know, post-draft rookie drafts, Like, I don't know that I'll be that high. Higgins could be someone I'm fading.
Starting point is 00:41:36 He could be, you know, he's going like 108. I've been like, nope, not doing that. So there's not a ton of guys in this class that I'm, I'm like really excited about from a statistical point of view after the sort of the obvious due to we think are going to go early second round at the earliest. I'm trying to end. Like, Jack Bess has been kind of intriguing, but that's more of like I'm following other people looking at the film and stuff as opposed to. anyone popping for me. I guess I'll shout out E.O. Manor, who is a three-year guy, very productive in two seasons. And even as like a round four pick, I would have some interest. And I don't, I'm, I'm not sure he's a lock to go day two. But I do think he probably does go day two, like a round
Starting point is 00:42:23 three pick. He's someone that I will, that I will probably be overweight on post-draft rookie drafts. I think I'm pretty confident that, like, I'll be willing to take. less than ideal draft capital to bet on his profile. He's a bigger guy. He can win down field. There's definitely some red flags in the profile, but, you know, someone who I think could be surprisingly productive, you know, that you could get in like the late second of a rookie draft.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Quick thoughts on Matthew Golden. And we'll go without knowing the draft capital here. I'll make it easier. Matthew Golden, let's say he goes 15th overall. Some team maneuvers themselves to get in there. and trades up with, I believe, Atlanta at 15, and Matthew Golden is a top 15 draft capital. With that sort of speed, let's say he's the second wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:43:13 right receiver off the board. Will you be in or out on him with that sort of inflated rookie draft capital and a best ball price that is sure to rise? So best ball, I'm like trying hard to make myself take Golden, particularly around draft Kings where he's like a little cheaper. and the reason I'm trying right now is because I think he's going to go first round and I think his price will rise. His profile is pretty shaky analytically.
Starting point is 00:43:43 It's a bet on him being a three-year early declare and going first round. And he's athletic. That's kind of the – and there's a narrative to like – you know, I think he dealt with an injury in his second season a little bit that hampered him. He goes to Texas. It takes him a minute to figure out that he's better than Bond. He's kind of the guy down the stretch for them. them. So it's not like he did nothing in college, but, you know, I thought when looking at
Starting point is 00:44:07 Matt Harmon's reception stuff, I thought he was going to be like one of these dudes who was crushing there and he was like, good. But, you know, Travis Hunter's actually the guy that's like off the charts over there. So I'm like struggling to see Golden is this incredible fantasy producer. I think it's like more in the Jordan Addison mold, which would be kind of interesting if he goes to Dallas. So I think he's going to end up being a guy where, you know, he goes first round. Someone takes him at 106. I'm like, yeah, that's a pretty good pick. I'll take Trayvon Henderson. You know, that's kind of, I think I'm probably going the running backs in that range. If he, if he goes like where he probably should go based on the draft capital and some of the upside
Starting point is 00:44:52 elements of his profile, I probably won't be overweight. I think you make a good argument, though, with the running back enthusiasm, even if Golden goes 15 since he's so polarizing, we might get access to him at the end of the first round in rookie draft. Which I'm into. Yeah. So I'm kind of with you there on Golden. I think the price will be right for that sort of profile. And the Jordan-Idison one, that gets people hype when you say that one, Pat.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Let's take a quick break. We come back. We're going to hear Pat Corain's thoughts on the tight ends. Welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily, Theo Greminger, with Pat Corain. legendary upside and ship chasing. Let's talk about the tight ends. The big two. Colston Loveland, Tyler Warren.
Starting point is 00:45:36 How do you rank these guys and your general enthusiasm for these two as prospects in fantasy football right away? I have Warren slightly head of Loveland. I think he's like a slightly better prospect, but I think it's pretty close. And in best ball, the market has like a pretty big difference. just like a 25 pick gap between them. And also in a spot where like when Warren's going, I'm generally trying to figure out quarterback.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And then I figured out quarterback, all the quarterback's mostly gone. And all of a sudden, Colson Loveland sitting there. And I could use a tight end. So I have a lot more Loveland than Warren in best ball. In Dynasty, I think both are probably going to be targets for me.
Starting point is 00:46:22 That's like, that's also a spot where if Matthew Golden goes to the Cowboys at 12, but then like Colston Loveland's on the Chargers and, you know, Tyler Warren went to the Jets or something. Like I'm taking one of those tight ends, you know, I'm talking tight end premium, but I'm taking one of those guys. I think they're both really good prospects. They're not incredible prospects. They're nowhere near Bowers level, but they're still very strong prospects. The biggest concern I have for Warren and for Loveland is that they go to the cults. I just don't, I don't want to have to sit through the year.
Starting point is 00:46:57 with Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson of them on the cults. But outside of that, I mean, these are pretty well-rounded tight-end prospects. They're different. Like Warren's more the yards after catch true in-line. Why? Loveling, maybe you move them around a little bit, plays like kind of the big slot, but can also play traditional tight-end as well.
Starting point is 00:47:17 And more of like Winsworth route running downfield type of guy. But both profiles work for me, you know? And they're both going to be first-round picks. you're starting to hear a little bit of buzz that, you know, some evaluators actually prefer Loveland to Warren, which I wasn't expecting. And I don't think that's a knock on Warren. I think people are excited about Loveland.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I think when it comes to Loveland, he's maybe a little bit more overly athletic as a prospect. He's also about two and a half years younger. I think that matters for some of these NFL teams, having a little bit more room to run in the profile. Both are great prospects for me. I think what's interesting is, dynasty-wise, I think there's a ton of enthusiasm,
Starting point is 00:47:58 but you reference the best ball prices. It's just a really wide gap. And one that I think could correct a little bit post-NFL draft. We drafted Scott Barrett, Abbey, Bag, Batobo and I drafted a 350, which is basically a early redraft, FFPC League. And we were able to get Colston Loveland with the 9-10, which I thought was exceptional value. And Tyler Warren.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah. Yeah. And Tyler Warren. and Tyler Warren is going up, you know, right after the truly elite tight end. So you're getting a huge gap. In that particular draft, Tyler Warren went with the five, six. So I think when you look at the range of outcomes, that gap is way too large. I think both are really, really good.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And I agree with you, they're players where especially if you play tight end premium, these are exactly the sort of profiles and draft capital where you want to have heavy exposure to these two guys. And I think that they're, I think they're both top 15 picks at the end of the day. I think that that's going to be very reflected by the NFL. Now, when we get to tight end three, that sort of becomes a question mark for fantasy managers. Your thoughts on who your favorite third tight end is in terms of fantasy football right now? For me, it's Harold Fanon. I do not expect to me to the third tight end drafted.
Starting point is 00:49:12 But tight end is a position where we should be comfortable departing from draft capital more so than the other positions. I'm least comfortable departing from quarterback because I'm like, I need this dude to start for a team. It's not going to be in a committee. He's got to be anointed the starter. But at tight end, you know, you can have multiple tight ends kind of mixing in and you can earn more as you go. But also, more importantly, they're drafting these guys for different reasons than we draft these guys. And that's not true at running back or receiver really.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I mean, there's maybe slightly, slightly true in some cases. But for like Harold Fanon, they're like, I don't know. he's just a big slot receiver like oh he is that's cool music to our ears yeah i don't want to have to pay a ton for i've sometimes been critical of that profile like i wasn't really a big mic gisicky guy but it's i wasn't a big mic a sickie guy in year two when it was kind of this the height trains coming you know that he's gonna he's gonna be this big breakout and it's like well he's really just a big slot he's you know he might not run all the routes because they don't feel comfortable with him out there
Starting point is 00:50:16 but gisigis had a pretty successful career all and all and i think um you know fan it's kind of in that type of mold, maybe more like a John Hussmith, you know, if you think about the way you actually use him, which is you get the ball in his hands and let him work after the catch. He was incredibly productive. Like, it's kind of hard to describe how productive he was. He was second to Brock Bowers in the FBS in Yak. And then he almost, that was in 2020, 2023. And then he almost doubled his yak the following season.
Starting point is 00:50:51 He had more yak than Luther Burden had yards in 2024, which Rotopac got me on that little nugget. It's wild how productive he was. He was a huge, huge part of his team's offense. He was 50% dominator rating at Bowling Green. Yes, we have. That's just incredible. It'd be crazy for a receiver.
Starting point is 00:51:14 He's doing like Des Bryant level domination of an offense. Like I know it's like a weird profile a lot of ways. I understand he's duck-footed. We just had a whole discourse on ship-chasing about the duck-footedness of it all. But the production is just, it's really, really crazy. Then you look at like, oh, is he efficient? He's the most efficient tight end we've ever seen. Yards per outrun, yards per team attempt.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Like, he dusts the competition. So then you look at stuff like, you know, how many of his targets were contested? Not a lot. But this guy's the whole offense. Like, surely they knew he was getting the ball. Where is he getting targeted everywhere? not like he's he's not a gadget guy
Starting point is 00:51:52 is only getting targeted behind the line of scrimmage, he's getting targeted short, intermediate, deep. He's just like a really, really productive tight end prospect. And I don't know. I mean, even guys who don't seem to love him as far as like NFL draft evaluators
Starting point is 00:52:08 go, like, you know, like Todd McShay is not really hyped about him from what I gather. He's still got him in his top 100. I think he's going day two. I think he'll go round three. I think we'll go tight. end five or even tight end six, like if Terrence Ferguson went ahead of him, that wouldn't shock me. I also wouldn't care. Teams are, they're like, I want a tight end and this guy's a big slot receiver so he doesn't fit our need, you know, or our offense. Great. Definitely don't take
Starting point is 00:52:38 him then. Because we want a guy who's, we want a coach who sees a role for this big slot that he can actually use as kind of, you know, 12 personnel, but is it, is it 12, is it 11? You know, he can actually block okay. Now he can block okay against like chipping guys and and defensive backs, I think. He's not a traditional inline guy. But as far as, you know, being like having kind of multiple ways that you can attack within the same formation, I think he actually probably fits that pretty well. It's just a huge ceiling here, I think. Anytime a guy was this productive in college, by the way, he's a three year early to clear player too. So he's young. You know, he's coming in like, I'm kind of shock, there's not more excitement about him from the, like, isn't our job to have fun and dream
Starting point is 00:53:25 on these guys who, who, like, do the things that count for our game? He's completely free in best ball. There's not really a ton of buzz for him, dynasty wise, because he's like, oh, you know, is he really even a tight end? Like, maybe not. But if he plays, like, essentially slot receiver, we're going to like the result when we're able to put him in our tight end spot. I think you nailed it. it's sort of the price is right to take a chance on Fanon. If he would have come in and ran a five-tenths of a second faster 40-yard dash at the Combine, our dynasty rookie price would have been, it would have steamed way up, certainly for FFPC dynasty players.
Starting point is 00:54:04 But now you're going to get Fanon in sort of a sweet spot where even if you miss, the hit rates are really not that high anyway. Right. And I think you're right. I think that the way that it plays out, Oroyo, Taylor, and Ferguson, And those guys could all be gone in round two. But I think that the NFL's, there's all takes as one team when it comes to Fanon. And it all takes his one team that sees him in that same light and uses that round three pick on him.
Starting point is 00:54:30 He can really catch the football and dominates on film. And he dominated against the two teams that had Sunday players in Penn State and Texas A&M. So the candle is still lit when it comes to Harold Fanon for sure. And a guy that I think fantasy managers should be rooting for, land well during the course of the NFL draft. It's more landing spot than draft capital for him. It's landing spot not draft capital. So give me a landing spot, Pat, that would get you a little bit hyped when it comes
Starting point is 00:54:56 to Fanon. Is it a lack of quality pass catchers on the roster? Is it an offensive coordinator style? Like when you're looking for a landing spot when it comes to Fanon, give us a team or three that would get you excited. Yeah, I think it's the, just talked about this with Jacob Sanderson where he was saying like, you know, part of the issue for a guy like Dalton Kincaid isn't so much Dawson Knox. It's actually Khalil Shakir.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Like you're competing with the slot receiver as much as the other tight end. And so with that in mind, like I would be pretty psyched about him if he were to go to the Vikings, let's say. Like if he would round three picks of the Vikings, he's, he's the Jalen Naylor replay. Hockinson's still Hawkinson. That's unchanged. But he's like their new Jailen Naylor, you know? Like something like that would be where I would get really excited, really good coach. you know, going to be able to use him creatively.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I mean, put him on the 49ers, you know, that kind of thing. Like, I want creative usage, put him on, put him on the Patriots. You know, they could use, they could use some weapons and he could kind of be the move tight end. Hunter Henry can kind of still do his thing and they don't have, they don't have any weapons. So that's a problem. You know, he could be a weapon for that. It's more, it's more about like getting him on the field in a big slot role. where there's either available targets or a really sharp coaching staff.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I'd love to say the Rams, but I think it'd be kind of duplicative with some of the stuff they do with Puka. But that's kind of like where my head's at is like moving him around a little bit. He played out wide some, played in the slide. He moved all around the formation. It's kind of about getting him the ball. In the NFL, we're probably talking like five, six, seven yards downfield and letting him run after the catch. But you're kind of moving him around and utilizing his ability to block as a part of 12 personnel.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Jacksonville, Jaguars, pick number 88. That's the landing spot I'm going to root for when it comes to Harold Fanon. That's a better one than anyone I came up with. I love that one. There we go. We'll root for that one. Pat, let everybody know once again where they can find your work. Yeah, legendary upside, as I mentioned,
Starting point is 00:57:03 the third part of my running back series is out now. I'm going to have my wide receiver stuff rolling out very soon as we come up to the draft. Obviously, you're going to have you completely covered for all the best ball season. We've got rankings. We've got a dynamics rankings tool called the sidekick, kind of draft along with your best ball drafts. And we've got a ton of content that'll be rolling out. All summer, dynasty, best ball, redraft, whatever you play.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Give us one bold prediction for the 2025 NFL season, rookie, veteran, you name it. So, yeah, I mean, we've been talking tight end. I'll talk about the tight end, Brock Bowers. I think this, he's already going to break fantasy even in a second season. I have 30% of him right now in best ball. Talked through that on ADP chasing this morning in the chat. It's like, that's insane.
Starting point is 00:57:57 You know, what are you doing? You're not taking these other guys? I am. I'm taking usually one of the receivers and then Bowers. Bowers is locked into the second of those two picks typically. But this dude already has a season with two yards per route run. He gets Gino Smith upgrading not just from Aiden O'Connell and Gardner-Minchu, but Desmond Ritter at times.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I mean, it was disgusting. And then he gets Chip Kelly as an upgrade on Luke Getsy. You know, they've got Pete Carroll kind of getting the ship pointed in the right direction organizationally. This team's committed to putting a winning product out on the field right away. Everything they've done this offseason points to that. They're not really focused on, you know, doing a long-term rebuild. Why would you trade and sign Geno Smith?
Starting point is 00:58:38 That doesn't make any sense. You know, they want to be good, right? away. Respectable quality football. And Brock Bowers is very clearly going to be the engine of the passing offense. He already was as a rookie. And the fact that he's a tight, I mean, we talk about these guys who are really just big receivers, that's Brock Bowers. And he's already proven that he can operate that way in the NFL. I, Frank, I'm like, I'm thankful to be able to sit at the one-two turn and just get Bowers every time. I honestly can't believe it. Now, this it's not tight end premium, but on the FFPC, why isn't he the 101?
Starting point is 00:59:19 I mean, I was able to get him at the 105 in a fairly competitive draft, and it feels like stealing. When we talk about tight ends in a regular PPR league, I think it wouldn't be surprising at all if Brock Bowers crossed that 20 point per game mark, then you start factoring the tight end premium. You're talking about a guy who's going to be like the quarterback four in FFPC scoring. So he could really be the guy that. you need in one of these main event teams.
Starting point is 00:59:46 So highly recommend- what if Jaden Daniels was at tight end? That seems good. The Jaden Daniels of tight ends. We got the show title. Pat, this was awesome. I highly recommend Pat's work. Check out the recent episodes that I drop with Brett Whitefield,
Starting point is 01:00:00 where we covered AFC and NFC team needs that are fantasy football specific. Those episodes were a lot of fun. John Hanson's going to be joining me a little later this week, and we'll see you soon.

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