Fantasy Football Daily - 2Barz - 2021 NFL Draft Review

Episode Date: May 4, 2021

2Barz is back for 2021! Graham Barfield (@GrahamBarfield) and Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) resume their 2Barz podcast for 2021, starting with a recap of the 2021 NFL Draft. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, it is the first two bars of the year. Very excited. This should be once a week, every other week type thing moving forward. This comes at an exciting time. You know, the NFL draft. It's, you know, Christmas weekend just ended. And Graham and myself are going to be breaking down that draft. I think mostly dynasty implications, but we'll try and hit on what it means for some NFL teams as well.

And I don't know if you heard that, but we have our very own theme song. I'm feeling hyped up. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling like Mariano walking out to enter Sandman. Shout out to my guy Gabe. That's at FF Man Bun on Twitter, who recorded that little ditty for us and had to say, did an excellent job. Graham, what do you think? How are you doing?

I'm good, man. I'm biased, obviously, but I think that might be the best podcast intro in the history of fantasy football podcast intros. We are not, we're not messing around anymore, man. Gabe crushed it. By the way, was that a Mariana Rivera reference there? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The goat. The goat, the best cutter ever. Yeah, dude. General thoughts of this weekend. I kind of felt like, you know, I think, you and I have talked about this extensively, but this running back. class sucks. I kind of felt like the receiver landing spots were pretty underwhelming too. Yeah, it was pretty gross overall. I did a bunch of pre-NFL draft rookie drafts. And I did an excellent, maybe just like lucky job of avoiding a bunch of landmines outside of a Kenny Gainwell share here or there. But yeah, I mean, yeah, we also did a draft like right after day one ended and I was just on on the clock with pick like 210 tight end premium super flex and it was just so so gross like the the tier really died in a big way and like I have no idea who to take here like do you defer to draft capital with duane espridge or two to atwell

who's so skinny yeah so it was kind of a mess after you know let's say rondale more went you know all those guys either you know went later than expected or to bad landing spots or yeah it was it was a it was pretty weird overall so i'm excited to talk to you about this and really kind of shape up our thoughts on uh on who to attack and why yeah for sure i think um you know i felt it's weird i felt like going into the draft i felt like i loved a lot of the receivers that were going on like the third and fourth rounds of the rookie drafts that you're in you and Byron and yeah, tough scenes out here for like Seth Williams and Tameron Terry's and those guys of the world. My God, man. But yeah, let's get into it. Let's go through quarterbacks first.

No surprise who the top two were Trevor Lawrence Ecclos. And I really don't think we need to spend a whole lot of time on them. You know, Lawrence is, I think, the consensus 101 and Superflex league still. I've seen some smart people to suggest otherwise, but I'm still on T-Law as the 101. Wilson goes two. I have in my rookie ranks that we've been working on for the site. I have Lance at two, Fields at three, Wilson at four, and I think you have the same way. Yeah. So I just want to say, I do think Trevor Lawrence is probably the 101 in Super Flex Leagues, fairly unanimously. But I did just take Kyle Pitts 101 in a league.

I actually had zero quarterbacks, but I had a bunch of picks. So I went Kyle Pitts, Naji Harris, Jamar Chase, 107, Zach Wilson, 108, Mack Jones with Lance and Fields and already off the board. To Javante 110, Elijah Moore, my guy, 201, Cadarius, Tony, 206. I kind of just liked how that played out. like, okay, you know, I moved Trey Lance to QB2, you know, draft capital plus landing spot, ideal. But, you know, I just, I mean, I locked up ideally the next, or, you know, Kyle Pitts is probably already my tight end one.

I know that sounds crazy, but like all the guys he's competing against who are great for like nine years older, he's 20 years old. Najee Harris, I mean, dream landing spot in Pittsburgh, easy RB1. Jamar Chase. I think a generational wide receiver, maybe the best since AJ Green, Julio Jones. And then, okay, you know,

I didn't get those stud, Konami Code quarterbacks, but I got two competent ones. But yeah, let's talk about quarterback. So Lauren, Zach, makes a lot of sense. Trey Lance was the more productive Konami Code quarterback in college. Okay, Justin Fields with the generational 40-year dash time. There's a bunch of untapped potential there.

but I mean just how does he miss in San Francisco? Yeah, that's the biggest thing is, you know, the biggest knock on Lance that everybody says is the accuracy bit. But in Shanahan's offense, you know, I always say every quarterback is a fit in Shanahan's offense just because he's that damn good of a coach. But yeah, I'm glad the Niners went for upside. You know, they didn't just settle for Mack Jones.

And frankly, Mac Jones went where he should have gone, you know, in the middle of the first round. I was kind of always where he should have gone. But, yeah, Lance, man, you know, he had more rushing yards and whatever it was, like 13, 14 starts and any quarterback in this class. Granted, that's against, you know, totally lower competition than what Lawrence and even Zach Wilson was facing. That being said, though, I mean, Lance under center quarterback is going to understand,

immediately come in and understand some of the, you know, play action concepts that Kyle Shanahan already has installed in his office. There's going to be carryover there. And then we'll get to see Shanahan again. again with a mobile quarterback. I mean, it looked like Shanahan and RG3 were going to change the NFL before the damn field ripped up RG3's knee there in Washington. But yeah, I think, I think Lance, man, you know, you made an interesting point that Lawrence is probably the 101. I think if you have the 101, it's super flex rookie drafts right now. The move is to trade that pick back a little bit

and pick up Lance plus maybe like the 110. And I think that would net. you like Lance plus Giovante Williams, Lance plus, you know, whoever you need help at, you know, with wide receiver three or four. I think they'd be in that range. You know, this, this is not a deep class by any means. We kind of mention it off the top. But I still think that top 15, top 16 is, it's pretty rock solid with Chase Waddle Smith. We got Harris, E.T.N. and Williams. And then from there, it's just like a massive, massive tear break. But with the four quarterbacks plus those six or seven, skill guys, it's still a pretty solid first round. In general, though, I think I'm selling, I think I'm selling picks for 2022s, man. I think that's kind of where I'm at.

Yeah, again, it depends. I do like the first two rounds of this draft quite a bit, maybe round one and then half of round two. And yeah, you make a good point. Like trading Lawrence and getting more picks, I think, is probably the right move. Just to reiterate that Konami Code point, you know, like we are in the Konami Code era. If you look at, you know, quarterbacks by fantasy points per start last season, it was DAC 1, Jalen Hertz 2, Kyler Murray 3, Josh Allen 4, Pat Mahomes, 5, Taysam Hill, would have ranked top 12, Lamar Jackson, Deshawn Watson. Trey Lance, he averaged 77 rushing yards per game across his college career, Justin Fields, not too far behind.

64.6. Trevor Lawrence, sneaky, sneaky last two seasons, 39.9 rushing yards for game. Zach Wilson, 38.4 in 2018, 133.7, 2019. Mac Jones, like zero.

So that's what you're looking at there. It is the age of the Konami Code quarterback. And Lawrence, as much of a lock as he, you know, should be, supposedly is, is about half. at best a Lance or Fields. And, you know, he's already going round one in dynasty startups.

Again, you could say it's close between Fields and Lance. I think most people still have fields. They just get into that, you know, take lock. But just the goat, Kyle Shanahan, with all the weapons they have, you know, trading up, getting his guy, spending the draft capital. And, you know, I watched the post-draft press conference. He said, you know, he kind of came around on Justin Fields at some point. but he was really, when he moved up, it was, he leaned Trey Lance, but really it was, it was

Matt Jones, the other guy competing there. Another point on Trey Lance, I think, is just that supporting cast is absolutely, absolutely absurd. So since 2018, Russell Wilson averages 7.84 yards per pass attempt. over the same span, Nick Mullins ranks above that. Jimmy Garapolo also ranks above that behind only Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes. And so, like, with those elite weapons, like, you know, he could have like a 4.2 ADOT and still average, you know, like nine yards per attempt. You know, Brandon Ayuk, most career yards after the catch per reception, among any power five wide receiver since 2014, since entering the NFL D. Hebo Samuel leads all wide receivers.

George Kittle leads all tight ends and yards after the catch per reception. So he's just like so set up for success. Yeah. And to that point, I mean, even if we do get kind of the same, at least to start the year, I think the 49ers will probably just try to build and, you know, go back to kind of the low A dot, yak offense that we've kind of seen from Jimmy Gropolo. But once they start to build this, man, like Lance so clearly has 10 times. the arm talent that Jimmy Garoppel has.

I don't know, maybe it's not 10 times. Maybe it's like three to four times. But you get my point. Like, if you adjust for depth of target, like, Traylands had that highest average depth of target of any draft, really like the top five or six quarterbacks we've been looking at in the last couple of years. He had the highest average depth of target. And, you know, I mentioned earlier that his accuracy was, was the biggest knock against him.

Okay, that's fine. Like, definitely the numbers, kind of back that up. But you also have to adjust for average depth of target. And I mean, his ADOT was 10.5 yards down field. I mean, that was, you know, like, you know, two yards deeper than Mack Jones, like two yards deeper than two attack of a, two attack of Iloa. So, you know, that also factors in. Lance, I think, I don't think it's a huge gap between Lance's QB2 over fields.

But Tom Broly made an interesting point this weekend in one of our group chats. And he said, you know, what if the bears fail? Like, what if Matt Nagy and Ryan Pace, like, you know, let's say, let's say this, this Fields experiment just doesn't go well and they get canned after this year. Well, we could be looking at Justin Fields, you know, potentially playing for a starter job a la San Arnold after his rookie year. So I think there's a lot more risk, downside risk with Fields. Obviously, the ceiling is still intact with him. He's clearly, yeah, clearly like you mentioned, one of the clear-cut Konami Code quarterbacks that we've gotten coming out of college.

I just think the stability with Lance and already the baked-in floor with this offense is so much higher. Scott, let's talk quickly about Mack Jones. Bill Belichick, man. He stays in place, gets Mac Jones at 15. You know, a lot of the rumors early, I remember from like January right after the season ended and we got into the playoffs. A lot of the early rumors that I read were, you know, Patriots are enamored with Mac Jones. And it makes sense. I mean, he's, you know, if you want to, if you want to make a comparison, he has to be the Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Kurt Cousins level processor, to be successful in the NFL. And I think he can be. But man, Mack Jones, you know, I think at least for fantasy, like it's kind of a wet blanket type of thing. He's going to have to just put up massive touchdown numbers to even come close to some of these guys like Lanson Fields who, you know, they can throw 22 touchdowns, but still end up with top.

numbers just because of their legs. I do think Jones elevates the pieces here, though. Johnny Smith, Hunter Henry, some of the receivers they've added. I still know how much I want them for redraft. I mean, we're strictly talking redraft for this one. But yeah, I think Mack Jones at least elevates the pieces and the offense as a whole here. I still have trouble figuring out what his ceiling is, though. Yeah, I mean, you want to talk about a franchise and decline. That's, that's certainly Chicago, but, you know, this couldn't have been a more ideal landing spot for Mac Jones, you know, Bill Belichick's not going anywhere in New England, I imagine, isn't going to play as poorly as he did last year for a long, long time. He did add all those receivers.

And so, and so, yeah, and San Francisco did like Mac Jones. Kyle Shannon said, you know, we'd take Jones if we kept that number 12 pick. We'd be happy with that. I think he was, you know, overrated in the process, just because, you know, people were flirting with the idea of San Francisco taking him at three. And now he seems a little underrated where people are like, oh, you know, nowhere near on this level. He's falling in rookie drafts. But yeah, I mean, exciting player. New England wasn't going to ever trade up for him. But, you know, maybe that's what Belichick wants. You know, he doesn't want a guy coming in cocky. But, yeah, like you said, you know, catching passes from Mack Jones as opposed to Cam Newton.

That's going to be an upgrade for the receiving core. And I'm interested to see what he does in New England. I don't have any, you know, thoughts beyond that. Yeah, real quick, I should say Cam Newton's deal, you know, when they first announced they were going to bring him back on that one-year deal. I was pretty surprised by that. But looking into some of the language, there's a chance they just cut them. So I think Max Jones right now is a strong, strong favorite to be the week one starter. Yeah, I don't really think we needed to spend too much time on like Kyle Trask and Kellamond.

I do think the Kelamond pick was really interesting because he's literally the antithesis of Kirk Cousins, dude. Like Cousins is a ball distributor, super accurate, fairly good ball placement. Kelamond is fairly scatter shot, but extremely athletic. I wonder if I wonder if Spielman just views him as a project. Have you, I know you've been grinding your face off probably already with these press conferences, but have you heard Spielman talk about Mond at all yet? No, that's what I was going to say. I haven't caught up on Trask or Mond or Mills or Ian both.

All right. Well, let's get to the running backs here, man. Naji Harris, we have a new workhorse, man. I think everybody kind of started connecting the dots the last two weeks and the lead-up to the draft. I'm still barely surprised they took Harris over some of the offensive linemen, but those offensive linemen slipped. And I wonder if there's still medical stuff that we don't know about guys like Kevin Jenkins. But yeah, they stuck with their guns.

They took Harris at 24, didn't have to do anything to get them. Man, the fit in the comp that I had for Harris before the draft was Levi-on-Bel. And I mean, if you want to talk about play style and impatience, I think that's Naji Harris. He's not going to have, he does not have home run speed, doesn't have, you know, the sexiness of Travis E.T.M. But he is a technician with his footwork and, you know, behind the Steelers' offensive line that has major concerns. I don't know how much it's going to matter for fantasy dude because he's going to get the ball on literally every single snap. Yeah. And that's the big takeaway. I wouldn't be shocked if by the end of the offseason, he has, you know, a late round one ADP.

It's just what do I prioritize when drafting fantasy running backs for redraft and dynasty leagues? I want Belkow's guys with Belkow potential. What does Mike Tomlin want as a head coach? He's made it clear. He wants a Belkow running back. He doesn't want a committee. He wants just one guy who can, you know, get the hard yards, also be involved in the passing game as a real receiver and you saw that with Harris getting Stephen Jackson, Matt Forteacomps

coming out. You know, Levi-on-Bell 2014 to 2017 averaged over 20 fantasy points per game. DeAngelo Williams, when Levi-on-Bel was out, averaged over 20 fantasy points per game. James Connor smashed in 2018 prior to injury, smashed in 2019 prior to injury. Then things sort of fell apart last year. You can say, you know, you can blame a little bit on the offensive line. The offensive line is a concern, but, you know, snaps correlates to fantasy points more than anything else at the running back position. Outside of the red zone, a target is worth 3.25 times as much as a carry in PPR leagues. I see Najee Harris, like, locked into, you know, 18 and 24 carries and like four to six targets per game and all the goal line work. And, you know, like, you know,

like a 95% snap share. I think he just absolutely smashes offensive line. Sure, not ideal, but volume is king at the end of the day. And he's going to get volume for days, unlike probably all the other running backs in this track. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's the delineation point. And, you know, in my Yards created stuff, like Harris was phenomenal as a receiver. He actually forced the most mistackles I've ever charted more than Christian McCaffrey,

more than Alvin Gamera. I mean, he's going to immediately be a binkie for for Ben Rothlisberger. And, you know, whatever Ben Rathlisberger has left in the tank, and I don't think it's much, it actually might be a good thing this year for Harris's value. Because, I mean, if he senses pressure and Harris is open in the flat, I mean, he's just going to dump it off. And Harris is a beast after the catch. So I'm right with you on workload projection, all of that. We're updating best ball ranks on the site, too. And I have Harris, right, as you said, as like a borderline RB1. I might move them up. I've got them at RB11. 15 overall. I got a couple receivers ahead of them, but I'm considering bumping them up even higher. I'm in a $150

best ball draft championship with some really, really sharp drafters. And Harris went, I believe, right after the round one, round two turn. I'm pulling it up real quick. Yeah, he went in the middle of a second round, actually. Still after Acres and Swift. but I've got Harris over Acres and Swift right now. The Steelers did draft two linemen in the third and fourth round. They draft an interior guy out Illinois, Kendra Green, in a tackle in Dan Moore. But, you know, obviously they felt comfortable skipping over O'line in the first and second round.

So maybe they're a little bit, they're obviously a lot higher internally with their offensive line talent. I think, you know, taking Harris at 24 is a surprise, but they're, then not going offensive line at 55 and taking Pat Friermuth was an even bigger surprise, man. Like this team, I mean, they're four deep at receiver. They're too deep at tight end. I think they're going to run a shit ton of kind of obviously 11 is going to be their base, but I think they're going to run a lot of like four wide looks with Ebron in the slot. Obviously have juju in the slot.

So the good news is Harris will probably be running into lighter boxes, I would imagine, just simply because of the nature of the way this offense is going to be designed. But yeah, man, you know, the biggest concern here is offensive one. Like, you know, he could average, you know, 4.0 yards per carry, get 320 touches, and none of it matters. Yeah, I mean, I don't know about the lighter boxes thing just because what was Ben Rothesberger doing last year. He wasn't throwing deep at all. It was all short passes. I mean, I think that's a legitimate concern, but I do think he is.

a tier above Travis Etienne and Javante Williams. And I want to talk about those guys. I did watch the press conference on Travis Etienne. And it was weird. It was legit. Yeah, he sent it to me. It was real weird. Well, I sent you the Urban Meyer calling Travis. Welcome him to Jacksonville. The first thing he said was, we want to get you in the wait room tomorrow. And then he followed up with saying, remember those pictures? We sent you a few weeks back. We want you looking like that. I don't know what he sent him, like maybe like a picture of, you know, like a bodybuilder or something, but sent him a picture of BK. Metcalfe. Exactly. He's 215 pounds. He's 5'10. You know, he's not too undersized, at least according to the pro day measurements. I know you said he looked kind of smaller than

that on tape. But in addition to all that, Urban Meyer in his post-draft press conference, comped him to Percy Harvin. He called him basically the team scatback where Carlos Hyde and James Robinson are going to be the early down runners, which would be super gross for fantasy. I kind of got the sense he views him as like Alvin Camaro, which I think is like what you're hoping for when you hear scatback. You're hoping for Alvin Kamara a scat back on steroids. Percy Harvin kind of same thing. When Urban Meyer had Percy Harvin at Florida, he was a running back. or listed as a running back. And he had about the same amount of rushing yards as he did receiving yards.

Meyer kept saying, you know, mismatch guy who can play as a runner and as a receiver. And then maybe, you know, year two, if he puts that weight on that, I guess, Meyer's hoping for it, he could be a bell cow. But for year one, I don't know what to make of this. It was weird. Yeah. I mean, how many times have we heard coaches and GM say we want. our speedy running back to put on weight and it doesn't work.

Like, how many times is that? I mean, I remember when the Bucks drafted Ronald Jones, man. And Jones, when he played at USC, I mean, speed was his calling card. He put on a little weight. And, I mean, he couldn't process. I mean, I always had problems with Rojo's processing. But, like, man, he looked sluggish behind the offensive line, you know, besides the processing concerns.

So, you know, my thoughts are pretty straightforward. I mean, from an NFL team building standpoint, I thought it was just a ridiculously ridiculous overpay for ETN. You know, this team had so many needs, you know, between corner. They could have used another pass rusher. I mean, they've got three good pieces between Allen and Henderson and Mac on defense. But, I mean, they just need safety help. They need corner help. And I get that they took Tyson Campbell, but, you know, a lot of the evaluators,

I'm by far from a cornerback evaluator, but a lot of the evaluators that I trust thought Campbell was an overpay at 33-2. So, you know, they got Lawrence and honestly, you know, if he's as good as Andrew Luck and, you know, Peyton Manning and some of the best quarterback prospects that I think he can be, that he kind of compares to it from a generational talent standpoint. It may not matter. The rest of this class may not matter if they completely flopped on all these guys, but I'm with you. such a weird pick like you know yeah go ahead it was it was also interesting that it was later reported that urban meyer said on ESPN's draft broadcast that it quote unquote broke our yeah to not be able to to grab cadarius tony who's like another sort of developmental guy could be viewed as sort of positionless you know run him on gadget plays jet sweeps with which a you know doesn't

doesn't look good for the wide receiver who was drafted early there as part of the older regime, but also because, you know, are they viewing Etienne as who they wanted Cadarious Tony to be in their offense, which is to say, you know, again, sort of positionless. And then those guys always suck for fantasy. Well, I'm glad you brought that up because this staff obviously is not as nearly as high on Lavisca Chanel and James Robinson as the fan. fantasy or dynasty community is as a whole. And we got to adjust for that. Because I'm with you. Like if they, man, Tony and Chanel play basically the same position. You know, obviously Chanel's way bulkier and, you know, almost is, I mean, he's basically built like a running back. Tony's a lot more slender.

But they basically fill the same type of role. You put them in the slot, you know, you let them do their thing after the catch. I'm, yeah, they are obviously not as high on Chanel or, or Robinson. I do think, real quick that the fit from like just a player standpoint from ETN's perspective makes some sense because I noted this in my article, but Travis ETAN scored very poorly in yards created on inside carries. He scored the 19th percentile in my database. I mean, how much of that was 2020? Because everyone kind of says he took a step back as a runner in 2020 because he had that round two consensus grade and everyone said, well, we want to see you what you can

do as a past catcher where at least allegedly that was a weakness to his game and now he's he's being drafted as a scab back and it's like what but um yeah yeah so how much of that was was 2020 in your numbers i mean i didn't chart 2019 but i did you know i watched a bunch of climpson just because they're on national television all the time and um i went back and just kind of compared it anecdotally i thought 2019 i thought et n looked a little quicker in et n in 2019 I thought he looked a little quicker out of his cuts. Like he sometimes does this thing like because he's moving so fast. And this happens with a lot of like the speed track guys,

but like takes three to four steps from him to kind of like gather himself. Whereas like if Najee Harris is making a cut, it's like one step in the ground and he's gone. You know, for ETN, sometimes there's there's some pitter pattern. And that's just a nature of the way he plays the position. And I think we'll see Robinson still highly, highly involved on, you know, Hyde. I actually believe Urban Meyer when he says he's going to get pro aside a couple carries. I think we're going to see Robinson and Hyde get a lot of the inside carry stuff and we'll see

ETN kind of playing a gadget role. And I'm with you. That's certainly questionable for fantasy. One thing I did want to know. Go ahead. Yeah, they did lose like four offensive line in 2019 to 2020. Yeah. So if you do go back and chart 2019 as part of your your yards created data, I'd be eager to see how, how things change for you. You know what? I'm going to do that. I'm actually, I'll do that next,

not next week, but the following week. I'll go back and watch ETN's 2019 get some, get some data for that. That's a good call. The one thing I did want to note on ETIN,

and, you know, he draws the, the Alvin Camara Comps, and I've just kind of scoffed those because, like, you would never describe Alvin Kamara as stiff. And E.T.N. is not like,

you know, super, super stiff. It's not like he's a, I don't know, like a, a plank going out there. But, you know, ETN was not used on very diverse route tree. Like most of his targets were screens. Like over 75. I charted ETN with 74% of his receptions coming on just three routes and those screens, flats and check releases. And check releases are just like, you know, you make sure liebacker or, you know, defensive end is coming around the

corner and you release out on the flat. 74% of his receptions came on those three routes. Sure. Yeah, he's a beast after the catch because he's fast. hell and he is game-breaking speed, but he was not running near the route tree that Najee Harris was, and even Javante Williams, I mean, much smaller sample of reception. So I think EATN still has some work to do as a receiver, but he's going to be highly, highly involved in the Jags screen game. Let's talk to Jvante Williams, because you and I kind of had the same take right when he got drafted.

It's like, maybe this isn't great for year one. I think you might be a little higher for year one than I am, but for long term, for Dynasty, I think this is a fantastic spot for Javonsei, man. Like Melvin Gordon's 28. He's overpaid. He's not going to be on the roster. In 2022, his deal is up after this year. And they don't have anything else on the, on the death chart behind him.

I'm sure they're going to probably add a back or two there. They got Mike Boone. But, yeah, Javonsai Williams, man. I think it's a great spot for him long term. I just, I'm still not entirely, I'm not entirely sure that Melvin Gordon. is just going to go away this year. Yeah. So this was certainly interesting to me. I like this landing spot just because I think other people are going to absolutely hate it when I think there is some hidden upside there. So I think everyone's just imagining that this is going to be a running back

by committee situation. And it certainly can be. Maybe it's probably the case. But it was reported by Benjamin Albright that Denver was prepared to trade up for Najee Harris in the first round if he fell past Pittsburgh. That didn't happen, but he did trade up for Giovante. And I was told last year, Ian Rappaport reported it as part of his podcast. Tom Palliserro tweeted it out that Pat Schumer brought Melvin Gordon in as the Belcal. a Denver beat writer I talked to via DM told me that that was the plan, but he showed up out of shape in the offseason and he looked terribly.

So it had turned into a committee situation with him and Philip Lindsay. But it's notable that that's what Shermer was chasing. And if you look back at his history, he clearly prefers a Valcow running back. He's had some great ones. But he was prepared to get, I mean, look at what Saekan Barkley, the volume he handled in his rookie season.

look at what all-time bust Trent Richardson had in his rookie season. And so they chased that, you know, they, they stood pat at running back when they didn't need to. They drafted a running back early with the Giants, with the Browns. And he said before, he prefers a Belkow. So I wonder if, you know, they were this aggressive chasing a running back because that's sort of integral to Shermer's offense or that's just what he wants. And they don't trust Melvin Gordon in that role. So I wouldn't be shocked if maybe halfway through the season, this is just Javante's backfield. And Javante, I know as a player, we both like the most predictive metric for college running backs transitioning to the NFL is mistackles force per touch. And Javante set the record

for that last year. So a player I like, and I think this could be a sneaky good landing spot. Maybe it's not, but I think the potential is there. Yeah, for what it's worth, I just pulled it up. You and I are the only one on staff out of, you know, us two, John, Joe, Tom, and West to have Javante Williams at two at running back. We both have him over ETN. So love that for us. But yeah, man, I think I think you nailed it with Williams, you know, he popped again, you know, he popped in PFS. I think he actually broke the PFF record in Ms. Tackles Force, but he was, I think, top five or six of my numbers. I don't have it pulled up right in front of me in terms of miss tackles Forreston, you know, the little bit that he was used as a receiver, he only

caught the ball 25 times because Michael Carter, you know, they split, you know, targets and carries literally right down the middle of UNC. But the little bit that I did, you know, we did get to see Williams catch the ball. I liked what I saw, man. I mean, he, he had a little angle route against a Virginia linebacker on a third and five. The UNC was down in the game. They had him in them in third and five, and he dusted a linebacker. You know, he had a little route against Notre Dame. We had to run a little quick out against a linebacker and just, I think the linebacker literally fell over. But Williams was overthrown. The ball wasn't caught. So there is some major untapped potential for him as a receiver. And I think anybody that has watched

Williams play, even five snaps or five carries, knows that he is a freaking hellion, man. He is a Tasmanian devil with a ball on his hands. He popped into the 79th percentile in my yards created per attempt metric. He leads this class in yards created per attempt. Yeah, man, I think Williams is a fantastic prospect and long term. This really, really was a good spot because, like you mentioned, I think you mentioned it, they traded up for him. All right. I just want to say, I didn't transcribe that post-draft press conference, but I did know Fangio, you know, you paid lip service to the other running backs that are there, but he did praise and the GM praise multiple times.

Javante as a well-rounded, all-around, every down back, praising him as a pass blocker and as a pass catcher. So I think that's notable. I mean, we can work through the rest of their running backs fairly quickly here. You know, Kenneth Gainwell, who I saw some potential in. Yeah, poor one out for Gainwell, man. Fifth round pick. RIP.

Yeah. But Trey Sermen, I mean, West Huber's guy, that couldn't have been any more ideal. You had the draft capital went to a great landing spot. You know, Shanahan has worked wonders with far lesser running backs throughout his career. I mean, Alph Morris, look at what he did. So there's certainly some upside there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, baby.

I'll have an article up on Trey Sermon later this week. And he is the shoe in. He's shoe in for RB4, RB5. I mean, I think you can make the debate for Michael Carter just because the jets are complete dust at running back behind Carter, but man, Sermon, talk about a perfect fit. I mean, he is going to be gangbusters and outside zone. It's just, I have no idea how the touches are going to go here, man. I mean, they kept most dirt. They love Jeff Wilson, especially in the red zone. They got Sermon. They also took Elijah Mitchell super late,

the guy who ran a 4-2 at his pro-day that I don't necessarily believe, but he's definitely fast as shit. This backfield, man, is just a disaster for. fantasy. I mean, like, humanively, they scored the third most fantasy points among all teams last year, which is unbelievable. But like zero of them were useful on any consistent basis. That's mainly because of injuries. Most are got hurt, obviously. But man, I, you know, I love sermons potential, love the player, but for fantasy, I have Michael Carter ahead of him just because he has a clear pathway to targets and touches on that team. Yeah, we all know the phrase shenan or however it's pronounced shamanigans shanahanigans yeah he got right the first time yeah so i mean

that's been a thing since mike shanahan was a coach where and i said this when he was drafted too it's like i i can't wait for the third highest own san francisco running back winning the millie maker across multiple weeks like that's just going to happen and that's a that's a concern i mean if this is his guy and he could stay healthy you know who knows what is upside. It could be, you know, Alph Morris Plus, like I was alluding to before. Michael Carter, I think, is interesting. I did watch that press conference, didn't transcribe it, but had it on the background. Way to go Jets fans. I mean, they were prepared to take my guy, Elijah Moore, had he not traded up and had he been there at their first round pick, their second

first round pick, and Michael Carter, they wanted to take in round three. They didn't think he'd be there at round four. They got him in round four. Sermon has the better draft capital round three. Carter first running back selected after him. And like you said, no one there and the guys who are there, part of the old regime. Tevin Coleman, maybe he's the early down runner. Michael Carter is the past catcher. I don't know, but they certainly like him a lot. They think he's capable on the ground as well as a past catcher.

So there's certainly some upside there. I'll let you say your thoughts on him in a second. But after that, you know, Ken A Nguanglu hyperathletic freak, not going to do much. buried behind Dalvin Cook on the depth chart. Maybe if there's an injury that's interesting. Remandre Stevenson, you know, he got some Lagart Blunt comps in the offseason. That's just going to be depth for Damien Harris, Sony Michelle, similar style runner. Chuba Hubbard in round four, I guess you could say, is the handcuff to Christian McCaffrey,

which has value. But, I mean, I don't ever see him being like the PPR weapon that. Mike Davis was in relief. But really, yeah, yeah, just, just gross as I see it after Carter. You have any final thoughts in Carter before we move to, I don't know, tight end? Yeah. I'll have a Carter piece coming up. You know, it's just, I thought Williams was the better prospect and the data shows that too.

But yeah, Carter can, you know, I think immediately come in and be at worst, the 1A there. It'll be interesting to see how LaFleur kind of splits touches because he comes from that McVeigh scheme. And, you know, obviously LaFleur saw, you know, Todd Gurley, you know, be the workhorse there. I don't think Carter is a workhorse. You know, I don't think he has that in his range of outcomes. But with this depth right right now, I think at worst, he's, at worst, he's the 1A. Yeah, man, the rest of this class is just disgusting. I mean, ranking these guys after five is literally vomit-inducing.

Like, I've got, we need to talk real quick about Atlanta and they're, them not drafting a back. Because I have JV. And what's the, I just had it. Who's the other UDFA they picked up? I just completely blanked on his name. I don't know. These guys, I don't think are going to be a thing. Well, they might be, man.

if Mike Davis gets hurt. Shit, I'm literally drunk. Oh, Caleb Huntley, the guy from Ball State, Big Bruiser. They got Caleb Huntley and Javian Hawkins. I've got both of those guys in my top 15 at running back, and that just kind of shows you how shit awful this class is. Well, you have them top 15. Hawkins was Chris Sims, RB3.

Oh, my God. Head of Najee Harris. Yeah. Oh, wait. Didn't he have Michael Carter ahead of Najee Harris? too. Oh, of course. Oh, well. I mean, talk about, talk about trying to generate some outrage there. Mr. Chris Sims. Also, at Justin Fields at 32 overall in his mock. Good job, buddy. Good job. Yeah, you know, this class is gross. You mentioned on Chuba. He's strictly CMC's handcuff.

You actually put me on Nguangwu. I don't know if you know that. But you had him in like, I don't know, maybe 14 or 15 or something like that before the draft in your rookie ranks. And I did a double take on him. That was a good call on your part. Greg Kosell worked him up too. And I, of course, don't have it pulled up because the thing won't work. But I think, I think Kosell watched him and liked him a little bit and thought he had a, thought he had a place, you know, obviously in the NFL.

But, man. Yeah, he was buried on the depth chart behind David Montgomery and Breeze Hall, who are, you know, phenomenal running backs. He's probably not anywhere near the NFL. caliber, but few running backs are. 4.314-year dash. That would rank behind only Chris Johnson if that was accomplished at a combine instead of his pro day.

Elite speed score basically tied with Jonathan Taylor. So he was a spork freak for me. So he really popped in that, but there wasn't much to like beyond that. Yeah, get your sporks out, man. Get your sporks out. All right. All right, let's get to receivers because I think tied in will be real quick. A little bit of a surprise that the Bengals went.

with Jamar Chase at five, I thought they'd go Sewell and my wallet thought they'd go Sewell too. But yeah, they took, they took Joe Burroughs guy, Jamar Chase. Obviously, there's, you know, immediate rapport between those two. I think Chase is the alpha immediately. I think it hurts T. Higgins short and long term. I think we're going to see Chase like immediately walk into an 18 to 20% target share. And man, I think you have a.

hard time figuring out, you know, I think we, you and I have this conversation between who's the 101 and non-superflex leagues. I think it's Harris, but I see, I see how it could be a hard time deciding between Harris and Chase. Yeah, I mean, like I said, you know, pre-draft, he was clearly the best wide receiver in my model, or pre-combined, best wide receiver in my model since at least 2015, you factor in the athleticism and it's like, okay, he's in that AJ Green, Julio Jones here is like special, special, generational special. And I really believe that. So being paired up with his college quarterback, there's that immediate rapport. A good story on Chase. Actually, well, you just talked about it being a close call between him

and Penny Sewell. I don't know how much I can trust hashtag sources, but, you know, I had a source tell me that the head coach Zach Taylor wanted Pene Soule, the offensive line coach wanted Roshan Slater, the ownership wanted Chase, Burrow wanted Chase, and we know how that plays out. So I don't know if it was a tough call or wasn't. I watched the presser. It didn't see, you know, Taylor didn't give any secrets away. But one interesting little tidbit was the interview with Jamar Chase where he talked about

how he sets goals for himself. and he has little sticky notes that he tapes to the mirror and he looks at every single day. And one of them was like, you know, breaking a bunch of records and receiving yards and touchdowns, which he did, you know, winning the national championship, which he did. And so he asked him what his goals were going to be as a rookie. And he said, I'm going to win the rookie of the year. I'm going to have at least 10 touchdowns and at least 1,500 yards at the minimum. Imagine if he does that?

Holy shit. This guy's special, man. This guy is real special. Burrow needs to get healthy quick if that's going to happen. Yeah, man, that's the thing. And, you know, the offensive line is still a big concern. They did take Jackson, Carmen, in the second round. He can play inside or outside.

It'd be interesting to see how they develop them. But, man, yeah, this offensive line is still a big concern. I think we're going to see Burrow get the ball out quick and let Jamar do his thing because there's literally no red flags with Chase's profile, man. I knew he'd be the fifth round pick once I saw a picture, like, an hour and a half before the draft. The dude was wearing some pretty dope Bengals-colored sneakers with like an all-white suit or something.

So that was a lock after that. The bigger surprise, I think, was the sixth overall pick in Miami-taking Jalen Waddle. Waddle is, man, I mean, we're seeing the NFL shift. You know, we saw it last year with Henry Ruggs too. We're seeing this at the NFL shift just to, I think, personally, overdrafting the super speedy but kind of raw route running receivers. And Waddle is certainly that. That's not taking anything away from Waddle because, I mean,

he's a hell of a player and a lot of fun to watch. But, man, he's going to step into this offense now with Fuller and DeVon, Parker and Mike Isicki, who's basically just a big slot receiver, Scott, man, they are, they are doing everything within their power to make sure Tua has as many weapons to figure out if he's their quarterback of the future. Yeah, I just love that Jalen Waddle was asked in March, who he preferred between Tua Tua and Mack Jones. And he was like, oh, Mac Jones. That's my guy. Oh, me, great. Have you seen it? And it's just like, I'm exaggerating a little bit. But also, So if you look at Waddle's numbers with Tua, Tua, he was easily to his least efficient

receiver, you know, when targeting him. He was more efficient when targeting Devanta by far, Judy, Ruggs, Irv Smith. But yeah, I mean, that's a stacked receiving room right there with, you know, a lot of speed, Will Fuller on the outside, Devante Parker on the outside, Mike Jaseki at tight end. And then, you know, Waddle's going to be in the slot. He's going to return kicks. according to Ian Rappaport, the only guy Miami was looking at above him was Trevor Lawrence. He had Waddle as their number two player, which is crazy.

But you can see how he sort of fits better, I guess. You know, he needed that slot when Jemar Chase is an X. Since he's offensive coordinator said Chase is going to play the AJ Green X role for them. But I mean, I don't know why he would pass on a chase for Waddle. But yeah, I mean, he gives them speed and, you know, he's a fun player. He's exciting. He got a lot of Tyree Kill comps, but so did a lot of players who were never anything close to Tyree Kill.

Yeah, I mean, Waddleman, after the catch is just unbelievable. I mean, he had an average depth of target of 6.4 that was like outside of the top 20 in this class overall. But he averaged nearly 12 yards after the catch over the last two combined years. So just, I mean, he's, he is going to be a lot of fun in that offense. But for fantasy, how do you see him for fantasy? because I think Waddle's been one of the hardest players for me to kind of get my head around here. Yeah, I mean, that's the tough question.

You know, could he be an undersized, speedy possession slot like Tyreek Hill is, or is he more on the Deshawn Jackson or Henry Ruggs spectrum? I think he's somewhere in between there, but there are a lot of, there's a lot of target competition. And then, you know, Tua did have some concerns in his rookie year. I don't remember what my ranks are. I like to defer to draft capital usually, but I think I'm going to have Devonta Smith a little bit higher. Before we move to Smith,

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Devi, you name it. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. We got a bunch of stuff coming out this week, too. Super excited about it. We'll have projections done. I think John said he's grinding away on those. We might have projections up by the end of this week. So we'll see on that. But yeah, now is the time to get in. I want to do a ranking summit. I think we're going to do a ranking summit where, you know, we live stream it for subs and we just like debate or, you know, you're like, Waddle is better than Smith. And I'm like, you idiot. Yes. Yeah, we should do that, man. I think we're going to do a little powwow with, with Greg CoSelle and Adam Kaplan again. Not this week, but next week we'll do two days, AFC and NFC. So you're trying to get those sources from Adam

because he was money last year. Yeah, he was. And my sources have betrayed me during this draft season. Yeah, Kaplan has, he's absolutely nailed. couple things. Can't wait to hear what he says about the bears because he's usually spot on with the bears. I can't wait to hear what he says about fields. But yeah, man, I think transitioning back, I'm with you on Devontas Smith at two. That's why I have him. You know, if Jalen Rager is, I mean, man, I love Jalen Rigger last year, but I'm more than willing to take a gigantic L on that one. If Rager is nothing more than just like, whatever, if. flanker. Devante Smith has a legitimate chance to see more targets than chase. The Eagles have

nothing, nothing in the receiver core besides Rager. Obviously, Goddard is going to, you know, command a pretty strong target share. Yeah, you know, the only concern, man, for Devonte, you know, because I have a feeling the Eagles are going to line him up all over the field. They're going to line Rager up all over the field. He's not going to just be lined up at the X and face press coverage all the time, which, by the way, I think he'd be just fine facing press. But that being said, you know, the biggest concern here is Jalen Hertz and his development. And, you know, we love Hertz for fantasy. I know you and I are probably going to be the highest at the site on Hertz for fantasy, but there's serious, serious accuracy concerns here. Yeah, I think that's right. You know, I kind of like

Hertz. I kind of have some optimism. I think maybe even more so than the accuracy concerns is what is volume concerns, which you see with some of these Konami Code quarterback. you know, fleeing the pocket to take a run. That's great for fantasy, but doesn't really help out the receivers at all. I mean, they made it clear, you know, he's not going to be putting on any weight. Like his frame is so maxed out. The Howie Roseman and Nick Siriani said it's not a concern for them, but they kind of strike me as dummies.

So I don't know. I like Devanta. I'm willing to overlook it. And, you know, special player. Everyone in Alabama said he, he was the best football player they've ever seen. You know, all the cornerbacks who faced him said basically the exact same thing. So I'm willing to say, hey, he's just an outlier.

He's a special, special talent. And hopefully they use him the right way year one, which is going to be, you know, in the slot avoiding press corners, like you mentioned. Next up is another really tricky guy to evaluate. Cadarius Tony went 20th overall pick, fourth wide receiver drafted, The Dynasty had him wide receiver 10. And we knew all along the NFL love this guy. There wasn't much to take away from the press conferences, but this is a guy with a ton of

upside. You know, you can knock him for the late breakout age. But, I mean, he was a quarterback all throughout high school, didn't really see the field. And then once he was a starter, he was exceptional. Off the charts, he moved in a way. I've never seen a receiver moved. And he made tremendous growth from week one or to his, you know, seventh game played. that was like two different players.

So upside off the charts, athleticism off the charts. And, you know, I think that's an interesting, interesting fit there alongside Kenny Gallaudet. He was a Juko guy, right? Cadarious? No, my thing with him was I was saying my model hated him. But if I said he was a Juko guy where I only looked at his 2020, like he could be top five in my model. Right, right, right. Which is maybe how you should look at him just based on his history. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. I thought, yeah, he was a transfer. I mean, obviously Tony is a lot of fun after the catch, man. I mean, you know, he popped in all the mistackle force stuff that you want to look at. You know, that's just... Sorry, sorry, you see the NFL overvalue these guys historically, though, where it's like, oh, those wow plays. And then they just like, but they're not refined route runners and they're not used as possession

receivers. And, like, you draft these guys round one for like two jet sweeps per game. and it's like, what are you doing? So that's the big fear with Tony in my eyes. Dude, I have, I really have no opinion either way of Tony as a prospect. I mean, I've talked to you and T.J. And a bunch of sharp people about Tony. And, you know, there's kind of, there's different takes wherever you go.

And, you know, obviously the upside is what it is. I mean, you watch one game and you see it. And then, you know, you have the concerns where he basically has no production in his profile. And those guys typically do not pan out, especially in the first round. Above all that, man, the biggest concern here is Jason Garrett. I mean, we're really trusting Jason Garrett to get all these pieces right. We're really trusting Jason Garrett to maximize what is at best an average offensive line. You know, I get they're going to get shoulder back and they've got paired at right tackle.

But I mean, Andrew Thomas allowed the most pressure in the NFL last year, about the most sacks in the NFL last year. Man, I just, you know, I love Gettelman trading back finally. He did it twice. I loved him getting a first round from the Bears, which might, you know, they're, I think you and I are on the same page without their bottom five organization right now. I loved all that. I did not love Tony. Maybe he, you know, maybe he stuck at 20 because he knew the Jags would take him at 25. But I felt like it was an overpay. And, you know, the biggest concern here is, is Garrett and how these pieces all mesh together. You know, you're really good. going to take Cadarius Tony at 20 overall when you've got a passable slot receiver in Sterling Shepard.

I kind of just don't understand the process at this point, but it remains to be seen. I'm very skeptical that Jason Garrett can pull all this off. Yeah, I'm with you. Let's look at the next wide receiver who the fantasy community loved. I liked quite a bit. I think my wide receiver five. Rashad Bateman went to Baltimore. I think that's a great fit for Lamar owners.

I think that's a horrible fit for Bateman owners. It's just, you know, Baltimore led the league and point differential last year. That's a lot of positive game script, which, you know, means they don't really need to keep their foot on the gas, ranked dead last and pass attempts. And then on those pass attempts, Lamar Jackson ranked bottom 10. in accurate pass percentage, which is a number PFF charters come up with. So it throws drops out of the window. It just looks at how accurate were these balls thrown to the receivers. So accuracy concerns, volume concerns, in addition to ranking dead last and pass attempts last season,

they, like, didn't lose anyone. They lost like Willie Sneed and Des Bryant, okay. And the added Sammy Watkins and now Rashad Bateman. And how do they use these wide receivers? Are they going to put Hollywood Brown in the slot? I would like that as a dynasty owner who has quite a bit of him. But just big shout out to Rashad Bateman for jumping on this live grenade. So my guy, Elijah Moore, you know, slipped past the first round, go to a slightly more favorable spot.

Yeah, man. Yeah, pretty much. I agree with everything you said there. Hollywood, I was looking into this because I had the same exact thought this weekend. Like, where are they going to put Hollywood now? And last year, they only had them line up in the slot 23% of the time, which I think I was, yeah, it was me, you and Jill, we were messaging about this over the weekend. Like, I'm with you and Lamar and the accuracy concern that's obvious.

But I still, man, like last year at least, Roman didn't really do Lamar a whole lot of favors in terms of the way this passing offense was built. I mean, they're obviously built on play action. And a lot of those play action concepts are super, super deep down the field. So you're going to naturally get some inaccurate passes just because of the nature of those throws. that being said too i mean like how many times do we see hollywood brown get a screen how many times do hollywood brown line up in the slot i mean we want our our speedy small guys to kind of line up in the slot i mean when tyy hilton was t y hilton and he was playing with andrew luck and was a wide receiver one he was lined up in the slot like 45 50 percent of the time so i think that's

why they drafted bateman that's why they drafted tylin wallis who i thought was a steal uh tylin wallace was there um but yeah i think we're going to see hollywood in the slot we'll see mark andrews in the slot. And overall, the pieces in this offense are are pretty nice, man. I mean, you know, the offensive line is still above average, top 10, top 12. And now they've got two great boundary receivers between Bateman and Wallace. But for fantasy, it's, it's, it's sketchy, man. I mean, 2019, the Ravens wide receiver group as a whole was bottom, a below average and fantasy points scored last year 2020 they were 26 among all teams and fantasy points scored so man like it's just it's tough scenes for for any of these receivers if you have for dynasty and

real quick i want to pour one out for my guy devon duverne i love devon duvernay as a prospect last year as like a third fourth round pick because i'm enamored with the speed guys but uh yeah pouring out for him and miles boikin um let's keep it moving here man let's get to elijah more because I know you're chomping at the bit to talk about them. The Jets, man, home run first three picks. You know, you take Zach Wilson, you move up and get Elijah Vera Tucker to play guard. Actually, I want to ask you about that. Have you read anything about Vera Tucker?

Do you think they're going to play on that guard or tackle? Have you got to the press conference yet? No, I think he praised his versatility, but that's something that's still up in the air. Yeah. So then they get Elijah Moore. man Elijah Moore like perfect perfect fit in this offense I think they're going to cut James and Crowder because they can save a ton of money by doing so before the June 1 cutoff date for veterans so yeah I think Elijah Moore is their day one starter in the slot

and he might be the best route runner in this class yeah you all know by now where I stand on Elijah Moore that's one of my guys just absolutely love him I so love that it came out I guess during the draft or after the draft, Elijah was hanging out with AJ Brown, who, you know, I don't know how they caught this on video, but AJ Brown just could not stop crying. He was so excited, so happy for his guy, Elijah Moore, which just like, first off, like, you need people like that in your life, like amazing. What an amazing friend. And what a likable guy, AJ Brown is and all of these old miss wide receivers.

Like, I follow Elijah Moore on Twitter. And, like, that's exactly what you want your prospects. Twitter to look like. He's just like, love God. God is good. Love my family. My mom's the best. And like, God's great. And it's just like, what a great standup guy. But what was so shocking from that video was A.J. Brown was effusive in praise as it relates to Elijah Moore. He was saying, bro, I never told you this, bro, but you're better than me, bro. You're better than me. You do stuff. I still can't do. You came in as like a 19-year-old freshman. A.J. Brown's like three years older. And you were teaching me stuff and you're teaching me stuff

I still can't do. Like you, your talents off the charts. Like you say you're going to be the best, I believe it. I believe it 100%. Like you are, you are a superstar. Your talents off the charts. You are so special. You're better than me. And it's like, whoa, hearing A.J. Brown, one of the best wide receivers in the NFL say that just makes me feel that much more convicted in my Elijah Moore love. then, you know, maybe he fell because, you know, Baltimore wanted an outside wide receiver to push Hollywood into the slot. Elijah Moore probably a slot. But this is exciting. And like, you know, as a big Zach Wilson fan, too, I think they're going to be good for a really long time. I thought about it. I was like, oh, man, you know, this is kind of like Sincere drafting Joe Burrow and then T. Higgins with

their first two picks. And they just like got off to a roaring start. So I went back and I looked how many times. like a round one quarterback was drafted alongside a round two wide receiver. Like it never hit. But like in my mind, like it should hit where it's like these guys come in together. They work on their craft together, you know, build that rapport from day one. They're going to be together for the entirety of their rookie contract, maybe more. Like that's going to be his guy from day one and moving forward. I don't know, man, but I'm excited that the Jeff said that he would have taken him with their round one pick,

having not traded up for a position of need. you know, Zach Wilson, I love Zach Wilson, but he looks like Justin Bieber, and I just, like, worried about the punishment he isn't going to be taking. So, like, good to get him an offensive lineman, but to get him Elijah Moore on top of that, like they were beside themselves. And, you know, if I'm a Jet fan, I'm excited. I'm an Elijah Moore fan and I'm excited. Yeah, man, I think it's crazy with all these Ole Miss receivers to come out. Elijah Moore was by far, by far have the earliest draft capital. Metcalfe went 64, Brown, I believe, went 51 and then obviously Elijah was an early second. So it was super interesting that that Moore

ends up with a, you know, they're all second round picks, but Moore was was by far drafted earlier. I think he can play outside too, man. I think he's going to be majority slot, but I think he's got the route running savvy and the separation skills to play outside too. CoSell and his in his profiles in our fantasy points draft guy mentioned that Moore is an explosive multi-dimensional matchup weapon who could be a playmaker from anywhere on the field. And he kind of, he kind of noted that, you know, he has a vertical threat too. It's not just he's a short area, you know, kind of shake and bait guy. He can get deep, too. So a super versatile, super fun weapon for the Jets here. And I think he meshes well with the rest of the receiving court, too. Like, you know, Denzel Mems probably

isn't going to be anything for fantasy, but I think he's going to be a fine boundary guy for this year. Super athletic. Um, you know, so. So, now, my biggest takeaway is the Jets and Joe Douglas absolutely crushed this draft. I think they had my favorite draft besides maybe the Chargers. Okay. Let's see who is up next. Ron Dill Moore. You want to talk more?

All right. Go ahead. Yeah. I mean, so I didn't like the fit from one angle, which is just, you know, Kyler Murray accuracy concerns paired with Ron Dale Moore's minimal catch radius. you know, miniature catch radius. But I do like it from the aspect of, like, I think this is going to be who Cliff Kingsbury wanted Andy Isabella to be,

which is to say, you know, a speedy dynamic guy who creates yards after the catch. He can get him the manufactured touches he needs. It's going to be big for fantasy, you know, maybe a PPR cheat code. He's going to get some jet sweeps, things like that. You know, Larry Fitzgerald's a free agent. Is Rondell Moore, their starting slot moving forward?

And I just, you know, I like Ron Dale Moore. I trust his talent. Landing spot, solid. I mean, Arizona, what, they ranked top three and plays per game every year. It's a fast-paced offense. I think there's some upside there. Yeah, man, I'm with you on Moore. I kind of came around on it too. Also, Kylo Murray and Romano more are both like 5-5. So maybe they'll have that in common and get on the same page with that. But yeah, you know, I think we're going to see the Cardinals finally do what they've want to do all along and run more four wide stuff. You know, that's what fake sharp Cliff Kingsbury has been wanting to do his whole time. And I think, you know, now with Kirk and more probably both

occupying both slot positions, you could play Kirk outside a little bit. He's not, you know, he's not a great separate on the boundary. He can play outside. Hawkins is only going to strictly play in his one spot. But I think, you know, drafting more kind of gives them the versatility they've been missing to go into the four wide stuff. But I think you've been. mentioned to Kyler's over-the-middle accuracy is a legitimate concern. And it's one of the things I think they identified more to kind of help with, you know, Fitzgerald is by no means.

And I love Larry Fitzgerald, but he's by no means. He's basically a big tight end at this point. He is not separating at all over the middle of the field. And Rondell Moore will be able to get open a lot quicker than anything they've had between him and Kirk. All right, let's go to Terrence Marshall here. actually I skipped over Dwayne Eskridge who I real quick let's let's talk Eskridge and then we'll get to Marshall I thought let's do let's do quick

quick hits on each it's it's Eskridge at well Marshall Palmer Dami what did yeah what did you make an escridge pick man like that was something I didn't I mean death taxes in the Seahawks drafting a fourth round guy in the second round I mean it's like every year with this team especially given they only have three picks I just thought the Ascridge pick was bizarre from a team building standpoint, too. Yeah. So I was in that rookie draft, so I just skimmed through the presser, and I was left like underwhelmed, you know, the legitimately praised him as a versatile weapon in the

sense that he contributes on special teams and as a cornerback, which is a position he played in college. And that was a reason they drafted him, which, like, you don't love to hear from a wide receiver, But I mean, this was a guy they coveted. They wanted all along. And, you know, he really has the draft capital behind him. I talked to Danny Kelly, who hated the pick at first, then came around on it. He said he likes him as an underneath option, yards after the catch.

He thought the one issue with the Seahawks offense was they didn't have anyone to hit the layups, where they just had the two home run guys in Lockett and Metcalf. And this is going to be their guy to hit the layups. I think that's interesting. Ultimately, I don't know where to stand. And the same thing for Atwell, too, who, you know, major weight issues. I liked him. My model liked him even after factoring in the weight concerns liked him.

But, I mean, this was really early. And the same thing with the press conference where it was weird, where they, you know, the praise special teams and they talked about depth. And like, McVeigh would love a wide receiver by committee situation, you know, a matchup guy where Atwell plays 40 snaps when we. and then 10 snaps the next week and then 20 snaps the week after that. And like that would be so phenomenally gross in a way that like you just totally see coming. Terrace Marshall, I love what we'll spend a little bit more time on him.

He fell due to injury concerns, but I think he's far more of a high level prospect, well-rounded prospect than Esbridge or Atwell R. He gets paired back up with Joe Brady. I think if he's their slot option, that's especially interesting. Sam Darnold's most targeted receiver, dating back to his final year at college, was a slot-wide receiver. Then it was Quincy and Nunwa. Then it was Jameson Crowder. And even when Crowder got hurt, it was Brackson Berrios. I don't know that he's going to be the slot, but he did play a lot in a slot of college. Josh Palmer wasn't a guy my model liked, but all the film evaluators I talked to, Mike Renner, Danny Kelly, Jim Nagy, all love. Josh Palmer and really Tennessee's offense is a mess just like it was when Alvin Kamara was there. So it's like you have to, you know, they're not going to pop by the numbers of the model, but he's a high level talent who beat up on NFL caliber cornerbacks. Diammy Brown didn't have the draft capital, but he was a prospect.

A lot of people love and it seems like a great landing spot for him in Washington. Same thing can be said for Mari Rogers, Nico Collins to Anthony Schwartz, the youngest wide receiver in the class, also the fastest. He's a little interesting in Cleveland. But those are just the quick hits I have in the wide receivers. Any of these you want to dig deeper into? Yeah, on Eskridge real quick, I think that's a really interesting point from Danny Kelly, because Tyler Lockett is 50, 60 percent slot. So I'm assuming they view, you know, Eskridge as a guy who can play outside. And I co-sell said that too in his write-up. So maybe I should be a little less hard on the pick.

But, man, Atwell is like off my radar for fantasy. Dude's 149. Like, like, if we want to talk about BMI and weight concerns with Devonsa Smith, like if you want to play that game, too, too, Alwell is just so slight. Like, these guys just do not, do not get volume. I wonder if they see him as like, you know, a Tavon-Austin type of comp. You know with as much tight formation that McVeigh loves to run. with the fake, you know, the fake jet sweeps and kind of building that as a foundation of their

of their run and pass game. You're going to see that while run a lot of those kind of, you know, orbit motions and jet sweep motions and stuff in this offense. But man, he's not going to get any sort of volume. If anything, he's just going to open up a couple more lanes for Woods and cup. And then Marshall, I think we're going to see DJ more on the slot. And if that's true and we get word, we should ask Adam Kaplan about that next week what he thinks will happen. Obviously, Samuel was their full-time slack guy. Last year, that role is vacated. I think more, I think we'll see more play that.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with Marshall's medicals too, because he's, he might take some time to come along. Real quick, somebody we've got to talk about, man, is West Huber's guy, Amman Ross, St. Brown. The Lions did not take a receiver on day one or day two, but they did take Amon Ross State Brown as the wide receiver two off the board in day three after the Titans took Des Fitzpatrick. The Lions have dust at wide receiver.

I'm pretty sure, Scott, you could line up out there and get a couple targets for them this season if you needed to. But man, right now, Amon Ross State Brown has literally no competition for slot snaps. and honestly very little target competition outside of T.J. Hawkinson and DeAndre Swift. And, you know, Jared Goff, while he has some, you know, obvious limitations as a passer, Goff was more than fine to keep, you know, Cup and Woods fantasy viable for, you know, the entirety of his time with the Rams. So love the landing spot for Amman, Ray, St. Brown. Even though he fell in the draft, he was, a day two guy by most people that, you know, you and I, you and I've talked to and you and I trust. I love the spot for St. Brown. And I think he's, you know, outside of, once you get past, like,

man, really Elijah Moore in terms of capital and rookie ranks, I think Amonrae St. Brown is, like, immediately going to be, you know, fantasy relevant in week one. Yeah. So I actually disagree with you. I was lower than consensus on Amin Rae St. Brown. It worried me because, like, West and some other smart people really liked him. So I had him wide receiver 16. He went wide receiver 17 in a draft. So I'm sort of compelled to not really move him up much. And I might prefer to take dart throw shots on, you know, one of the other wide receivers like Quintes Cephas, who I did kind of like as a sleeper last year. I mean, yeah, the immediate landing spot's good. But at the end of the day, deferring to draft capital, where he went, that's not ideal. And hey,

I mean, Des Fitzpatrick to Tennessee, like, what wide receivers do he have there behind A.J. Brown? That was Greg Cassell's guy who went above him. And that's a pretty great landing spot as well. So, I mean, yeah. But with the round four and later wide receivers, you really can't expect too much. Yeah. You know, it's just such a good spot for St. Brown just because, like I mentioned, they just have new, new pass targets. You know, I think the biggest concern for. for St. Brown as a prospect is how much can he play out slide? Is he just strictly a slot guy? But, you know, I know CoSell Compton to Robert Woods, who early in his career was, you know, even with the Rams now, he's still 50% slot. So, yeah, interesting kind of corollary there between Jared Goff throwing to Woods and him not throwing to St. Brown. All right, let's get to tight ends. And really, it's going to be a quick conversation because it's Kyle Pitts, it's Kyle Pitts, and then it's Kyle Pitts one more time. Kyle Pitts does go for overall to the Falcons.

This offense between Julio, between Ridley, between Pets, man, they are freaking stacked. We're going to see Pets play in line. We'll see him play at X. We'll see him play in the slot. And I think Jeremy Shockey's rookie record of most fantasy points scored by a rookie tight end is going to be threatened here, man, because, like, you know, Ridley and Julio will get their 25,

28% target share. And then I think we're going to see pits around 18 or 20%, man. You don't take a tight end with his caliber and his NFL readiness. And arguably the best non-quarterback prospect in this class. You don't see him go for overall without spoon-feeding him targets. So, yeah, man, I know you love Kyle Pitts. And I know you and I are on the same page that he's already the dynasty's high-in-one. Yeah.

So that's only if Julio Jones is there. you know, there's still speculation he can get traded, I guess, after June 1, when it makes more sense from a cap. My biggest thing, though, is it's like, you know, he's 32 and he still has a shit ton of money left on his contract. I kind of felt like that was a little bit of smoke than just trying to move for overall. Like, you know, there had to be. I mean, I could see Gruden trading for him. I could see the Packers trying to trade for him. Yeah, I could definitely see John Gruden trying to trade for him.

That's for sure. I mean, I mean, Guden Kust just, you know, calls up. Rogers is like, hey, we're going to get Julio for you and here's your new deal. And he's going to be like, all right, love you guys. All as well. Yep. But yeah, this was the landing spot you're hoping for. Miami wasn't as ideal.

I don't think Cincinnati was as ideal. And, you know, it gets paired up with former tight ends coach, Arthur Smith. So last year, only five tight ends saw triple digit targets. only two tight ends had 800 or more receiving yards. Delaney Walker did that in four straight seasons when Arthur Smith was his tight end coach. So I do like this landing spot and everyone knows where I stand on him as a talent where, hey, man, this guy is going to be in the Hall of Fame. He's really good.

Yeah, dude. This offense for fantasy is going to be unbelievable because the Falcons, man, Falcons did take a safety. They traded back a couple times to get their guy. their secondary is trash. They have no pass rush. This team is probably going to be bottom three, bottom four, and points, yards, every efficiency of metric allowed on defense.

And, yeah, we'll get to see one of the most fun trios of weapons in a long time between Julio and Ridley and Pitch. Just, fingers crossed that Julio, first of all, doesn't get traded because you, you raise a good point. I think the Packers are legitimate. Packers are trying everything to get Aaron Rogers to come back home. But yeah, man, I think I think it's fantastic for Matt Ryan. And Matt Ryan, man, I have a bunch of dynasty shares of him on Superflex, so I'm thrilled with the pick. Let's talk quickly about Pat Friermouth. Steelers, I think I mentioned it earlier, but the Steelers somewhat surprisingly took him 54, 55 overall one of those two. Didn't go O-line. It took Friamuth.

You know, I don't really have a strong opinion either way of him as a prospect. I just, you know, I just find it curious that the Steelers didn't go O-line there. And, yeah, man, I still think even with Ebron and all of their, you know, all their weapons, Fryeuth is still the easy tight end, too, and what is. is a garbage class after Kyle Pitts. Yeah, I think Pittsburgh was thinking, you know, he should help the run game. He was one of the highest rated run blockers in this class. I think it's really interesting he went to Pittsburgh when Greg Kassell was effusive in praise and comped him to Heath Miller, which I mean, if you get Heath Miller, like,

that's a really solid player. What was it? maybe 10 straight seasons with 500 or more receiving yards, maybe more than that. Yeah, I mean, nowhere near on the pits level from a fantasy perspective, but you could be like a solid, I don't know, Austin Hooper plus. I don't know. Okay. Interesting.

Yeah, I think he's a better blocker than Hooper. Hooper's never been, Hooper's always kind of gotten overrated, I think, is an in-line player. But yeah, man, I think he with a nail on the head. I think they definitely view Vrymuth as a blocker, first and foremost, which goes back to my original point. Why not just take an offensive line in there? But whatever. Tommy Trimble goes to the Panthers.

You know, CoSell mentioned in his notes that Tommy Trimble is like one of the best, if not the best run blocker in this draft class. And he's obviously an amazing athlete. I know he popped in your spork stuff. Obviously, he's just, you know, Trembles just blocked with all the weapons they have there. But I do think Trembles kind of interesting in some of the tight end premium formats we plan because in some of those rookie drafts, he did not get drafted. Yeah, I mean, I like Hunter Longmore, but Trembl's an intriguing guy.

He was projected to go as the third tight end off the board. You know, never had 20 catches in a single season. So he didn't even qualify for my pre-combine model. The question is, could he be, you know, a true sample or a George Kittle where, you know, they get drafted higher, or he is that, get drafted higher than expected, and you hope the past catching could come along? Mike Renner favorite, Renner says, yeah, he sees that upside. He just wasn't used that way. He is the best run blocker in the class, maybe behind Fryermuth. Fryeuth, by the way, don't sleep on him as a pass catcher.

You know, a really solid pass catcher as well. he's going to be a clear upgrade on Ian Thomas, who, you know, Carolina clearly hated. He's interesting. I mean, I like Hunter Longmore, but there's some upside there. Yeah, I mean, for fantasy, there's not much, at least immediately, simply because, I mean, they got just so many damn weapons now. Yeah, Tommy Trimble only had 35 career receptions at Notre Dame. I believe he was a transfer. He was a, was he a, was he a, was he a, was he a, was he a juco guy too.

Do you remember? Or is he a red shirt? I can't, I can't remember. I don't, I don't think so. I just know the have the guy who's supposed to be the next Rob Grancowski. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they had Colt come at too.

Notre Dame has just been a freaking tight end factory, man. But, uh, um, all right. Any other tight ends you want to talk about? Yeah, man. I want to talk about Hunter Long. Okay. Go for it. Yeah, so he actually went before Tommy Trembal.

He went two picks before. He went to Miami, which I think, you know, I was never a Mike Jaseki guy. Jaseki's on the last year of his rookie deal. I wouldn't be surprised if he's just gone and they're hoping Hunter Long takes over. He was praised by NFL draft pundits as being an all-around complete tight end, capable blocker. I actually didn't see that. I sort of disagreed.

I thought his, what's exciting about. him is as a pass catcher. His 2019 season as a sophomore is really interesting. It was the second best season by yards per route run by any power five tight end since 2016. That's one of the most predictive, important variables. Hyper-efficient that season, he ranked second best since 2015 and also yards for target, yards after the catch per reception. And then last year, you see all of those numbers take a massive nosed die where he wasn't efficient at all. He switched to more of a pro-style offense, but he was their wide receiver one. He saw 89 targets, 24% target share, which is comparable to a lot of the wide receivers we saw drafted in round two, round three.

There was one game he saw 17 targets, came against North Carolina. And so like I said, the efficiency took a nosedive. Do you penalize him for that or do you praise him for commanding ridiculous levels of volume. I don't know, but, you know, he wasn't off the charts by athleticism, but he actually looks identical to Mark Andrews by every single, you know, event, bench press, three cone, short shuttle, whatever. So, yeah, I mean, I like him. I think he's interesting for Titan Premium leagues, which is what I play predominantly in Dynasty Leagues. And then after him, Trey McKitty, I have nothing there, but he has draft capital on his He also has a badass name.

He was a former Florida state guy. He transferred out. Porned out for Brevin Jordan, too. I had a little bit of hope for him, but he fell all the way. He fell all away the Texans garbage organization. So, yeah, man, good stuff on Hunter Long. I'm going to have to give him another look here. And good call on Gasecki.

You know I've always been low on Gassiki. A dude is a great athlete, but you can be a great athlete and suck at football. All right, man. This was a lot of fun, hour and a half nearly. Like I said earlier, make sure you come back and check out the powwows we're going to have next week. I think we're going to shoot for like Wednesday or Thursday next week. We'll have the whole staff. Plus Adam Kaplan, Greg Coasell, and we'll break down AFC, NFC.

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