Fantasy Football Daily - 2Barz - 2021 Review and Mailbag

Episode Date: February 22, 2022

Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) and Graham Barfield (@GrahamBarfield) return with a review of things they learned from the 2021 season and open up the mailbag at the end of the show. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One foot of money, two bars on the show. Let's go. Yo, welcome back. Swan Prats, welcome back, man. It's been way too long. If you've been rocking with us in the Two Bars podcast, you know that we kind of have to take a break every season. We just don't have the bandwidth, Scott, to really, like, put sink our teeth into it. Maybe in future ears, we should. But we're been so busy. We're usually really busy during the season. So we've kind of made two bars in offseason. a venture and we are bringing it back early February I guess not late February this this month's flown by man um yeah it's good be back talking to you guys man good be back on the the podcast

channel two bars is back best theme song in the business and the best two bars in the business scott man how's it going you enjoying your uh your time off there I mean I know the last like couple weeks have been have been real nice after the super bowl this is like one of my favorite times of the year that's that's right baby we're back we're back we're back we're back We're bringing it back. Now double your money and make it stack. This is two bars. How many bars?

Two bars of the Z. That's Scott Barrett, Grant Barfield, FantasyPoints.com. I think we're running a special promo right now. So get him on that ASAP, lock that in. So you get all the goods for the entirety of the offseason, the full season. And, man, I'm happy to do this. Like, I was a gigantic piece of shit since the season ended. But like the grind is unreal.

It's like 90 to 100 hours per week for like 22 straight weeks because there's postseason DFS and like the first, the last three weeks before the season starts are crazy. Like I write 96 stats and a bunch of other stuff. And yeah, I've just been playing a lot of call duty. I've gotten really, really good at it. It's like the five-year-old call-duty World War II version. Oh, wait. You're not even playing war zone.

You're just playing. No. No, no. I got the new one. I was like, I don't really love this. So it's just me and like a bunch of people who have no lives who are just insanely good at that game. I became friends with one guy who's like the number one player and we just like have her headsets and we just talk. And he's 17 years old. Are you just like failing out of high school playing this till 4 in the morning? Yeah. He's so good. He has a YouTube. And so that's been my, that's been my focus. but I'm happy to get back into the Real Grind.

I did get all my models together in order. So have like the rough draft there. I stopped to make some adjustments. But I'm going to hop on a podcast with Wes. And we're going to go over like a very first look at the rookies sort of deal. And that's what I'm looking at right now. Yeah, man. Wait, so you're playing, you're playing college due to World War II?

Or are you playing one of the older platform like PS2 games? No, no, World War II. Yeah, PS3. Yeah, I don't think I ever played that. Or PS4. Where are we on now? PS5? Yeah, so that's just P.

That one came out for PS4, but the PSA, I think it was like a PS3 game. What, God, what's that? I think it was the old PlayStation 3 game. I'm nasty, bro. I'm going like 96 and 8 on the rug. It's you. The second best player in the world and the number one best player is not even finishing in high school. So, congrats. But yeah, no, definitely be on the lookout for that West pod. We asked

Wes to start doing a little bit of Dynasty concept for us. And it took him like two days to put together an article for 350 players. That's already up on the site. So you should definitely check that out if you're, you know, just kind of revamping your your rosters or going into startups, whatever, what have you. Wes is your guy for that. But yeah, I'm not really talking so much about this upcoming season, more so just recapping this past year. And Scott, man, I felt like just an overarching thing from this past year was, man, you know, the first two rounds, there were so many landmines. And I think, you know, there was a whole debate of like, you know, how to structure drafts, how to attack drafts this past summer, the viability of zero running back, the viability of

of going RBRB to start. And what we saw, man, was especially in a lot of these big bestball tournaments, like the underdog, the guy who won the big underdog tournament, started RBRB, I believe, with Jonathan Taylor and Aaron Jones. It was a really interesting year where I think a lot of different strategies worked. So let's start there. I mean, you were definitely more of like Belcower bus. That's kind of your big thing.

I definitely lean more towards your way, more towards your way than like the, like, is your running back zealots. But I was typically going with one running back in the first two rounds and then just hammering receiver in the following like three or four. Yeah, let's just start there. What do you think works this year for you just in general with your teams and then just kind of like some of the overarching things we saw from this past year? Yeah, so this is an interesting year because like neither strategy really works.

Like you go zero RB, you get, you know, Stefan Diggs. Calvin Ridley, D.K. Medcalf, D. Andre Hopkins, E.J. Brown, like, Terry McLaurin, Alan Robinson. Like, none of those guys were world beaters. And then you can get Cooper Cup, Debo Samuel, who were world beaters in the later rounds. But you can make the same case with running back, like a really disappointing year for Christian McCaffrey, for Alvin Kamara, less so him, but Ezekiel Elliott, Sequin Barclay. And a lot of those guys, guys. What did I do? I did stick with Bell Cowher Bust. So I had a lot of teams that were Najee, Joe Mixin, Jamar Chase, Cooper Cup that made it to the finals in the FFPC. But really it wasn't a

good year for Bell Cowher Bust. Last year I wrote, listen, guys, it's an outlier year. This is the worst year for Bell Cower Bust in, you know, since, was it, 2015? The, the, the, the, the the Devanta Freeman year where he was the RV one. And so I'm like, oh, it's going to regress the mean. McCaffrey's going to stay healthy. Saquine's going to stay healthy. And Cam Acres is an exciting running back. I'm like all these other names.

And it just was an even worse year. And so now I'm in a tricky situation. I've given a lot of thought, but haven't started writing it yet. Do I just kind of throw my hands up and say, you know, the strategy did work, but something's changed with the landscape. And I just, I just don't really know the answer. I will say for myself, I did have some really bad calls. I was like two spots lower on Derek Henry and I was like two spots lower on Jonathan Taylor.

Derek Henry, I mean, it was still like, he doesn't catch targets. He's not really involved in the passing game. Darrenton Evans is like maybe lurking in the background. And it was just wrong. It was just a bad call. It was just like, guys are freak and just know I should, you know, bump up those guys. And then Jonathan Taylor, it was like the beat writers are saying, here's what they want for him. They want 60 to 65 percent of the calories and like 30 percent of the targets.

And like in the early portion of the season, you did see him in a committee role. And then of course, talent, you know, rose to the top. And talent saved the day. It was he was the Belkow. He was who we argued he should be. And so maybe just a little lesson there is just like really hammer these hyper-talented running backs. Because my model said Jonathan Taylor, one of the two or three best running back prospects to come out in seven years. So Jemar Chase was the best wide receiver prospect since the Julio Jones, A.J. Green year.

and just draft those guys, like ignore everything else beyond that and just assume talent's going to rise to the top and overcome all the other, you know, sort of deficiencies. But this is just sort of how I'm thinking about it. What about you? Yeah. I stayed pretty strong on Derek Henry. I think I ended up having him like highest on staff for our best ball ranks, which was awesome until we got hurt. I mean, I had him on a ton of teams, not just best ball teams, but just redraft in general, too. I mean, I had them everywhere.

But just like you, I, you know, I messed up the JT thing as well. Like I had, looking back on it, I think I had Aaron Jones, Joe Mixing ahead of them. And like you, I mean, I was really high on JT as a prospect. I mean, he's, you know, smashed and yards created. I had him as the RV1 pre-draft. Ended up with them as the RV2 post, you know, just because of the landing spot and Reich, you know, filtering through backs like we talked about. But, yeah, man, you know, I think I have the same takeaway as you.

It's just like, you know, these truly. you know, I hate to use the cliche word generational, but, you know, based on your own model, based on my yards created, based on a number of other things, JT fit a lot of the bills of like an Adrian Peterson type running back. And those guys buck the trend, man, in general. They buck the trend. And we saw that last year. And, you know, I think the big debate now, man, is like, is JT the locked in 101? Do we go back to McCaffrey? I think in PPR, you could definitely make a case for Cup. And, you know, I know we're sitting here.

It's February 21st and, you know, we're doing this for content, hashtag the content. But, yeah, man, I think it's an interesting debate. JT versus CMC versus Cup right now is the 101. Where do you land? Yeah. So, so I, this is tricky for me. I don't know. Is this legal?

You can tell me if this is legal or not. But I was thinking about having Jonathan Taylor won in my rankings, but personally, like, damn near 50-50 or even more Christian McCaffrey. And that's just like my personal risk tolerance. I'm very tolerant of risk and chasing upside where when McAfrey's healthy, he is Exodia. He is the greatest cheat code in fantasy. And like no one else comes close,

including like even Jonathan Taylor, who like granted like a historic, ridiculous stretch to end out the season in that Belcal workload. but at the same time, I mean, he missed 10 of 33 games over the last two seasons. He was banged up a bit in college. You can argue he's a bit undersized. But, I mean, I just, I love the man. And, you know, I love that sheet code upside where, you know, two years ago when he was healthy, three years ago now, he, it was basically like, the answer to the question was like, did you win your league?

The question, follow-up question is, well, did you have Christian McCaffirm? And it's like sort of like that. But I mean, meanwhile, Jonathan Taylor, I don't think he's like, he's had what, 400 plus touches dating back to sixth grade. So like, I feel like, you know, he does feel safer. Yeah. I mean, what is it? JT hasn't missed a game dating back to high school or something like that.

I think you were west have repeated that a couple of times. But I remember the knock on him coming out was too much tread on the tires. And it's like idiots. Like only the NFL would see, you know, a guy getting, you know, 20 plus touches and like 40 straight games as a knock. So stupid. I mean, you and I talked about this like, you know, not on the pod, but like being a workhorse and being able to maintain that level of workload is absolutely a skill. Like, absolutely a skill. And JT has that.

Derek Henry has that. But at the very least, maybe McAfrey doesn't. And maybe they've realized it. And maybe they're going to scale back his usage to keep him healthy. But in the same stance, if that happens, like he's getting like 12 targets probably and just like 10 carries. Yeah. Here's the thing. If we just assume these coaching staffs and these teams to automatically out of nowhere start using common sense when there hasn't been much common sense in the first place to begin with, I don't know.

That's a slippery soap, man. because the Panthers have definitely not been the sharpest organization in general for the last couple of years. And I was talking to Edwin about this a couple days ago. It's like, you know, they had a chance to scale back McCaffrey this year. They could have scaled him back immediately when he, you know, came back from injury again in the middle of the year and they just didn't. I would personally love to see McCaffrey play like 65, 70% of the snaps.

I mean, I know it would, you know, reduce his points per game from like 29 and a half, like 25. but still, I mean, just like, Jesus, man, get him through a season. But yeah. So then, so then, you know, that's a, that's a strong argument for Taylor because there's no reason to skill back his usage. And in fact, like Frank Reich was saying, the entire offense is centered around him and his skill set. And they're content to just plow him into the, you know, stacked defensive fronts because that opens up so many things for the passing game in terms of play. action and RPO runs and design run. And so like, yeah, so if McAfrey does get a scale back workload, like, I mean,

he has a long way to fall and to still be the most valuable player in fantasy if he's healthy, but that's just another feather in the cap for Taylor. Yeah, I think I lean towards Taylor right now. I have full disclosure. I have no skin in the game right now. I usually get a lot of my skin in the game after three agency and through the draft and after the draft. But if I were on the clock right now and I have a 101, it would be JT. You know, Panthers, not only like, do they have quarterback concerns again? We've got,

you know, overarching. So do the Colts, though. Yeah, but here's the thing. The Colts have one of the best offensive lines in the game still. They do. Yeah, Panthers. But the Panthers sucking isn't bad for McCaffrey because he gets so many targets, whereas, like, if the Colts are suddenly, I mean, they have a great defense, but suddenly like a four-win team, all that negative game script for Taylor. It was encouraging. He was used more as a pass catcher, though it was like intermittent and sort of like random games without much.

But yeah, so this is just like one of those tricky debates. I'm glad we spent some time covering it because it is tricky. Yeah, it is tricky. At the very least, man, like, you know, the last couple of years, last three years, really, we've had like a consensus 101. And this year we don't. And we really don't have a consensus like top 20. I mean, there's going to be some pretty big swings, I think, in ADP, especially in the second round this coming year, which I'm looking forward to.

I love when things are a little more wide open and, you know, everybody doesn't just take the same strategy for the first couple of rounds. There's some actual stands being taken. Yeah, so we talked through a little bit of our worst calls this year. JT was definitely one of mine. I just didn't end up enough with him. I had mix ahead of him, which I guess worked out okay, but, AT was obviously the lead winner this year. Had Aaron Jones ahead of him, which was unfortunate.

Take a huge L on that. Best call for this past year was definitely Debo. I was banging the drum for Debo starting last summer. Did not envision him becoming this like, you know, wide receiver running back, running back hybrid by any means, nor did I expect the insane efficiency that he had this past year. But Debo, the thesis around, drafting debo in the eighth round was was pretty simple it's like you know he's amazing after the

catch jimmy g is going to throw it short if he can stay healthy there's you know you know ppr upside for sure and yeah man he's just he shouldn't be three or four rounds cheaper than brandon i u i definitely feel like i ran hot with that one for sure um and this kind of like i don't know this this is what kind of fit into my overarching theme for last year's draft you know going with superhero running back where you just take one back in the first two rounds and then really kind of just don't touch the position until like the six, seven, eighth, ninth, tenth round and load up on, you know, high upside, you know, high upside handcuffs, what have you. I just loved the wide receiver landscape last year between, you know, rounds four

through seven. I just felt like it set up really well. Chase was obviously another slam duck. I ended up with Chase on a lot of teams where I kind of didn't really expect it. I thought he was a little overpriced in like the fourth round. Then he started to slip during the pre-term. season. I just bought the dip and that ended up being a home run. So I would say I would definitely say loading up on Debo and Chase were probably my two best like process and calls of last year. Did you have anybody that like really stood out kind of in those mid rounds that you were hammering that really worked out? Jalen Hertz was probably my most drafted players. So that was that was a big win at his ADP. I had a ton of Joe Mixing. Have you looked at? Have you looked at?

at ADP. He's cheap. I saw that. I mean, the question with him, and he's a tricky dynasty call, too, because it's like, I think there is a legitimate chance that Eagles go out of their way with all their first round picks to draft or replacement, trade for Deshaun Watson. Maybe not draft a replacement. This is a whack class, but maybe trade for someone. And so, like, I don't know how secure his job is, but, like, if he gets that job, like, he should be, you know, what, QB5, QB6 by ADP because of the Konami code. So Jalen Hertz, Joe Mixen, I think you're going to give me credit for Cooper Cup, but I'm going to argue that I'm a fraud and I don't deserve credit because we had a lot of debates about this. He was going a full round later than Robert Woods, even though he averaged

more targets per game than Woods in each of the past two seasons. He outscored him by fantasy points for game in two of the last three seasons. But I am a fraud because at the last second, my last run of rankings, I cowardly put them right next to each other with Woods a spot higher. So zero credit on that. Mike Williams, I was victory laughing that way too early because he was so hot. And then he completely fell apart. Had a bunch of Dalton Schultz, a bunch of Zacherts. Didn't really write up those guys a ton, but drafted a bunch of them. And who else? I'm forgetting. Oh, Elijah Moore. Yeah. So every year, I'm like super obnoxious about one guy just for fun. And it's always like a super late round pick. And I wanted to hang myself week seven. I was, I was miserable. My mentions were in flames. I had no self-esteem, no self-confidence. And then he sort of pulled it out in the end. Should have just, should have just, should have just been my guy. I mean, like, my model says he's, like, God and he was God.

But Elijah Moore decent, you know, injuries at the end. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, dude. Elijah Moore came on middle of the year. I mean, it looked, I mean, he was trending towards being a league-winning player. The big thing with him is just getting away from Zach Wilson, man. I know. We'll have that debate again.

He had, like, Josh Johnson, Mike White, like, like, bottom, like. like like fringe top 40 QBs in the NFL and they were still exponentially better than for him than Zach Wilson, which is like such a damning. Yeah, tough scenes for Jets fans once again. I'm sorry, Jets fans. He'll be good. Zach Wilson be good. He was raw.

High upside. Oh boy. You know, you disagree? The success rate of quarterbacks that have that bad of a rookie year, especially with this bad of a franchise long term, it's not great. It's also not great for Trevor Lawrence, by the way. Yeah. So let's talk about that because I'm in a dynasty super flex draft with Danny Kelly as my co-owner. And we just took Trevor Lawrence with the 211. I was on the fence about that. I mean, like we like to go young. Jalen Waddle was there. Cooper Cup was there. Tirek was there. Tirek was there. Christian McCaffrey was there.

So I was eyeing all those guys. But there definitely was like a tier death with the quarterbacks. there was a big run and he was still there. And Danny was just like, yeah, we already have Justin Herbert. So I want like two 6-6 golden Greek god quarterbacks for the next 20 years. And like it's hard to argue against that, like supposedly a generational prospect. But I mean, one of the worst touchdown rates of any quarterback in any season in NFL history, I think there was an eight-game stretch where he threw like 350 passes and had one touchdown. It was so.

so bad. And like, I don't know what to do with it. Like, can you just blame it all on herb being a Uber donkey? Okay. But at the same time, like, that was like a super, super rough rookie season. I know quarterbacks typically struggle as rookies, but yikes. Yeah. I mean, in general, this rookie class really struggle. And I think that's one of my overarching themes from this past season, man, is like a lot of my best ball teams, I was relying on Trey Lance or Justin Fittles, like quarterback. And yeah, I took a big L on that one. I mean, I guess Fields ended up being okay.

But, you know, Lance didn't even get on the field. Lawrence was worthless. Yeah, but, you know, on Lawrence, man, like, here's the thing. Not only was he contending with Urban and Beville and stuff and just an incompetent staff, but his best receiver down the stretch was Laquan Treadwell. And like, if you were to put the Jets receivers on the Jags, I have to think Trevor Lawrence would have been at least a lot better. like James and Crowder probably would have caught 90 balls with the Jags this year.

I mean, Leviska, Chanel is one of the worst wide receivers in the NFL. I mean, the hype, he's going to get hype again this year. It's going to happen. But Leviska was really bad. Marvin Jones obviously hit the age cliff. Really no surprise there. I mean, when you're top boundary receiver is Lequan Treadwell. There's some massive struggle.

And Jamal Agnew, who played cornerback all throughout college. Yeah, yeah. Jamal Agnew, a converted cornerback was, was their best wide receiver early in the year. And also, I mean, I think they drafted Travis E.T.N. With the idea of him being, like, kind of a hybrid-type player where he's going to play some running back or play some receivers. Take some pressure off the quarterback.

Right. And they just needed some juice. Like, that offense had zero juice. So, I don't know. I'm excited for Lawrence in moving forward and just getting a veteran staff around him. I've talked to a couple of my buddies who are just diehard Jax fans. And, I mean, we all kind of agree, like, just. the whole premise that Conn and the Jags front office is taking right now is like,

let's just surround Lawrence with some veterans and just try to like steady the ship. Because I mean, at this point, that's a couple years of just kind of like steadying the ship and hopefully getting him a couple more playmakers will be huge. But yeah, sticking on the theme of tricky things to analyze Scott, A couple of players we need to talk through for kind of a look-ahead, look-back hybrid here. Two receivers, Gabe Davis and Amman Rae St. Brown. We'll start with Davis. You know, obviously he had the four touchdown game just went berserk against the Chiefs.

You know, I think some of that was just he was getting wide ass open. Chiefs have, you know, they struggled against boundary receivers all year. And Gabe Davis just got on top of them. early and often in that game. The thing with Davis now, though, man, is Cole Beasley might not be a part of the team anymore. Manuel Sanders will definitely be, you know, they'll definitely move on from Sanders. You know, I don't know how Sean McDermott and this staff kept Gabe Davis behind Manny Sanders for like half the year.

I'm usually one who never really, I never really try to go overboard, like, you know, shitting on coaching staffs or anything like that. Because I, yeah, those guys obviously put, no, seriously, they put in, a ton of work. They know the players better than 99% of the population. But in this case, man, like, God, I still don't understand the Manny Sanders, Gabe Davis thing. But anyway, you know, right now Gabe Davis is going to go fifth, sixth round in drafts. I think that's going to continue to creep up, especially if they do move on from Cole Easley. How do we see this Davis situation in 2020 and beyond here? Yeah. So I think we have a unique take on this just because we have

access to Adam Kaplan, NFL insider extraordinaire, who has been telling us since they drafted him how much they love him, how impressed they are by his IQ, his football IQ, his tape knowledge, his tape study, and how they were grooming him to become a do-it-all wide receiver. They were training him to be the premier understudy for the X wide receiver, the Y-wide receiver, the Z-wide receiver roles. And so there was definitely going to be a role for him when the geriatric Emmanuel Sanders and Cole Beasley, you know, get out of the picture. And so his like breakout game wasn't super surprising to us. You know, I was all over him in DFS that week. He reminds me of Adam Thielen going into 2017.

And because, you know, he had done nothing undrafted guy. No one really paid much attention to him. And then he closed out the season with a 101-yard game in week 14, and then a 202-yard two-touchdown game in week 16. But like basically all of his fantasy points, or like 40% of his fantasy points that season came in those two games. And I was looking at a number of different metrics while he's insanely hyper-efficient on a per route per target basis. And they just signed him to this deal. And they're saying he's going to be a starter when he wasn't really a starter until the really late in the season. And so I was all over him. And he paid dividends in 2017. He went off. But he was like a 10th round draft pick. Yeah. And Gabriel Davis is like

round six. I know mid round five. So I mean, just to pay that, I know it's all wishful thinking. And it's like, well, we haven't seen that. This is also fantasy football where you have to get ahead of the curve on that and see those breakouts because it just happens. It's kind of not like baseball so much where you can just draft these steady producers. You do have to be early on the breakouts. And I mean, everything is pointing towards like he should smash. They lost their offensive coordinator, which isn't great. But I mean, it's Josh freaking Allen and all these targets are opening up. I'm probably not drafting him at his ADP. But if he turned out to be, you know, a world beater, it wouldn't shock me. I think, I think, I think,

conjunction with this Gabriel Davis debate. We have to mention that Stefan Diggs was totally underwhelming. To close out the 2020 season, he averaged the most draft Kings fantasy points per four quarters or like the fourth most all time over his final like 10 games or so. And this year wasn't the case. Alan really spread the ball around quite a bit more. He wasn't this alpha a wide receiver one and like maybe Gabriel Davis is their they're competing wide receiver ones. We don't have much to go off of that. He what he did play behind Emmanuel Sanders inexplicably for most of the season. But I mean, to see what he did against the Chiefs and, you know, all the praise Adam Kaplan

has been heaping on him. So it's tricky. Yeah. I think my, that's my take, man. It's like if Steph Diggs is going to start slipping in that like late second, early third round range, I'm buying that dip instead of paying the premium for Davis in the fifth round banking on a breakout. I think, I mean, I'm definitely a believer in Davis's talent. I'm definitely a believer that the role can be amazing. I mean, these, you know, the bills throw it 38, 40 times a game.

We saw them, you know, run it a little bit more and that actually helped help their offense a ton late in the stretch there, you know, finding some sort of like semblance of consistency on the ground with Singletary. That really did help. But, you know, this is still the bill's threw it 646 times this past year. The volume's going to be amazing for Davis. I definitely could see him, you know, paying off, but I don't see like the smash, like, you know, him being a top 12, top 15 wide receiver at that ADP right now. Yeah, man, I want some discounts to fund digs. That's kind of where I'm going. And with Diggs, man, like, here's the thing. I mean, he led the league in end zone targets this past year. Stefan Diggs, I mean, he made up for, you know,

the dip in efficiency in volume in touchdowns, which, you know, year of year, you kind of, you can't really bank on that. But, I mean, we're still talking about a guy who caught 6.1 balls per game this past year. We just didn't have the, you know, the huge 150 plus yard, excuse me, games that we did in 2020 when he first joined, joined the team. So, yeah, I'm going to be back in on some digs. in the third round um got to talk through one more i'm on ross st brown man obviously ended uh

end of the season on a freaking tear of a all time man i have a stat on this like you know it's not apples to oranges obviously because you know the NFL expanded the season but i mean he he had like the third or fourth most fantasy points to close out of season among a rookie among rookie receivers all time i mean just an all time heater for amon ross st brown that being said all of this came with T.J. Hawkinson being hurt. It came with them really not having much else a receiver and D'Andre Swift being hurt. Swift was obviously a huge part of the Lions passing game this past year. Man, I know we love Alman Ra St. Brown here. That's Wes Huber's guy. He was banging the drum for Armand Ra quite often this past summer. But, man, I mean,

you look at the structural things that, you know, happened toward this breakout to take place. between Hawkinson missing, between Swift being an out of the lineup, between them just having nothing else a receiver. I don't know, man. I don't, I think it's going to be, I'm on Rod's going to be hard pressed to, you know, catch eight balls for 90 yards and score every game, moving forward, obviously. Where do you see St. Brown right now and how are you valuing him? Yeah, so I do think it is important to note that West, this is West Huber's guy,

absolutely in love with him. And so this late breakout wasn't super surprising. And like you said, it was a historically ridiculous breakout over the last six weeks of the season, double-digit targets in every single game, at least eight catches, 70 plus yards in every single game, a touchdown in all of them but one. He had over 100 fantasy points over the stretch. the third most by a rookie wide receiver across any six-game stretch ever. Only Jamar Chase and Odell Beckham Jr. were higher. I comped Gabe Davis to 2016, Adam Thielen. My comp for this would be Brandon I.U.

Because like you said, all of this came without T.J. Hawkinson and D. Andre Swift. So they kind of have no other choice but to pepper him with targets. That is the concern. But at the same time, I mean, going into the season, he's the clear wide receiver one. This is far more enticing and impressive and exciting than anything else. He also had a bunch of rushing production over the stretch. He had snaps lined up as a running back. This was all with Dan Campbell calming the plays after ousting Anthony Lynn.

He was really featured. I think he is actually a vet. value, especially in relation to a Gabriel Davis, because he is going, I think, like, five spots higher than Gabe Davis? No, no, hold on. Yeah. No, they're going around the same range looking through ADP early. I'm with you.

I side, I would definitely like, you know, if I'm on the clock right now, fifth round, six round, and I'm looking at receivers, I'm definitely, I'm, we're going through our best ball ranks right now, which we actually should have up, maybe later this week or early next week. Yeah, I'm definitely going to have St. Brown. St. Brown ahead of Gabe Davis. For all the reasons you mentioned, man, and the one feather in the cap that I love for St. Brown is they started finally moving him out of a slot. It wasn't like, you know, he was a full-time slot player early in the year. He still played 70-ish percent of snaps. So it was only like a handful of snaps per game where he was moved out wide more. But I think that should definitely become, you know, I think

they're definitely going to try to get him more involved as an outside wide receiver in 2022 and beyond, which is obviously huge for him. And, you know, further cements him as the number one. But I am expecting, you know, he's not going to get double-ditch of targets per game. I mean, it's just not happening with T.J. Gronkinson getting back in the lineup here. Here's a tricky question for you. Amman Ross St. Brown or Elijah Moore in redraft. You can throw DeVantas Smith in there because he's at the same ADP range, but I like him the least, I think. Oh, man. Gough is for sure back, right? Like, they're just going to... I think there's a chance they take Malik Willis. Maybe not at their actual pick. Maybe they trade down, but I'm hearing whispers and rumors. Okay. So at the very least, Goff will be back as the week one start.

starter, I don't think. Even if they take one of these quarterbacks and it's lost. They heal not be the weak one starter. I'd go got gothman, or not golf, but I would go on rock. As crazy as it sounds, I feel a little bit better about goff and the surrounding Lions offense than Elijah Moore. I mean, there's also a chance. Wilson takes that step forward. I've been dreaming of Tony Romo's been envisioning for him. And, you know, he sets the world on fire. But yeah, I do thinks St. Brown feels a little safer. Yeah. For what it's worth, man, I've soured on Romo. I think when he first came out, like, his enthusiasm for the game, like, his enthusiasm for the game is, is palpable. Like, the dude obviously gives a shit, but man, he is, he can be cringy, real, real cringy at times.

Like, he, I don't know, man, he, he went on this, like, thing about compare, I think every big media member does this now. They compare everybody to Mahomes, but, I mean, I remember him trying to compare Zach Wilson to Mahomes, too. I was like, how, I mean, how far, how far, how far are we going to go with this? Right, but what if he's right? What if he's right? Yeah, I mean. The chances are like very minimal, but not quite baked into ADP.

I think, I mean, yeah, we just need to stop with that. But I do think Wilson is a lot better than public perception right now. Yeah, I mean. Especially if they get an offensive line, which I think is like the crux of the problem. Yeah, well, that's been the crux of the Jets problem since 2010. That's been the problem for the last 12, 15 years. Yeah, one other thing I want to talk to you about before we get in the mailbag, we got a bunch of good questions this week. So shout out everybody that respond to us on Twitter, Discord, whatever.

But one more thing we've got to talk through is Kyle Pitts, man. Tighten was a shit show once again. I actually just filed an article a couple hours ago just like looking into scoring trends. One of the things I like to do at the beginning of every off season, it's just like take a step back, take a couple weeks off and just kind of like, you know, obviously catch my breath, go for a hike. go outside, spend some time with some family, friends, whatever, like, you know, live my life a little bit. But I also like to just take a step back with work. Like, you know, I spend so much time, you know, diving into the minutia and, you know, trying to find, you know, small sample signals that help us, you know, during the season and stuff. So, you know, one of the things I love to do is just take a step back and just like, you know, evaluate scoring on a yearly level.

And, you know, I put together this article. And once again, I mean, no surprise, tight-end scoring was absolutely abysmal. This was the tied for the second worst year over the last 10 in fantasy points per game just at a position. And once again, we've just seen where, you know, the middle class of tight ends and fantasy is just gone, man. Like, it's completely gone. You know, we've got Kelsey and Andrews at the top. You can kind of include Kittle. Grunk was awesome when he was healthy this past year. But outside of that, man, I'm like it's, you know, we're chasing touchdowns. And, you know, there was no bigger disappointment this past year at the tight-in position than Kyle Pitts. You know, Pitts was going on the fourth round ahead of Jamar Chase. You know, long-time listeners know that it's not that I was betting against Pitts as a player. I think he's a great player, but I was betting against his ADP. And that worked out.

I just didn't, I didn't think he'd be as big of a disappointment as he was. obviously got over 1,000 yards, but a lot of that came in just a couple of games. He had 119 against the Jets, and then they had a buy it in the following week. He had 163 against the Dolphins. And then from there on out, man, I mean, he was like three, four catches a game. You know, obviously the offense, the falcons surrounding offense with, you know, Calvin really is stepping back from football and taking some time. For his mental health, definitely hurt. I mean, not having Ridley to take some pressure off pits, not, you know, to draw safe.

fees away, what have you certainly helped. But what, you know, is there anything beyond that, but you can, like, put your finger on that hurt Kyle Pitts and where do we go from here with him? Yeah. So we were right to say we should, you should be fading pits and redraft. But I'm actually more bullish now than I would have expected, you know, like, I thought this was a great season. Everything you brought up is fair.

but at the same time, he's one of just two rookie tight ends all time with a thousand yards in their rookie season. And what really killed him was the lack of touchdowns, just one touchdown. You know, you give him six touchdowns and he's easy top five and fantasy points per game. It was a really bad team and no Calvin Ridley really hurt him. He was getting wide receiver one treatment from the jump. Bill Belichick said, this is, who did he say? This is Julio Jones mixed with Tony Gonzalez, which is like the highest praise imaginable. And he treated him as such. You know, he got the bracket coverage. And he ran a super high percent of his routes against, you know, top 25 graded cornerbacks, according to PFF,

way more than like a Odell Beckham Jr. more than a Hollywood Brown. And so he had a lot stacked against him. And I thought this was an impressive rookie season. And we know tight ends do tend to make a sizable jump in their sophomore season. And I think that's going to be the case for Pitts. Again, like I said, with Jamar Chase, Jonathan Taylor, you bet on the Uber prospects, like the generational prospects. And that's clearly who Kyle Pitts is. So he's someone I'm excited about. We'll see what his ADP looks like. But my one rebuttal to all of that, man, is Jamar Chase got a shit ton of, you know, attention, obviously. And, you know, there was a couple games where he got shut down. But in general, you weren't shutting down Jamar Chase.

Justin Jefferson was the same way in his rookie year. You know, he got a lot of attention, but he just kept killing people on deep crossers. Like, why, Kyle Pitts is a wide receiver. He ran over 60% of his routes, nearly 70% of the routes. Right, right. But isn't that what you always want to draft? You want to draft the tight ends, masquerading as a wide receiver with like a 95% route share? Absolutely. We want the Darren Wallers of the world. We want those guys.

But why wasn't Pitts beating coverage as a rookie when other rookie wide receivers were? That's what I really want to know. And I don't have an answer for that. That's somebody, that's a question for Wes who's, you know, way, way smarter with the film and all that than I am. Because they were viewing him as a wide receiver one when he's a tight end. So again, like the deck stacked against him. Yeah, but what I'm saying is Jamar Chase got treated the same way in plenty. Yeah, I mean, he's not Jamar Chase.

He's, it's a different position where if, if he puts up 70% of Jamar Chase's numbers as a tight end, like you're winning all of the championships. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. But I mean, that's my thing, though, is pits is not a tight end. I mean, he barely played on the line of scrimmish this past year. So now he has more experience in the role.

I don't know. Maybe I'm just too glass half full here. But I do want to bet on the second greatest tight-end athlete to come out since 2000 and, like, my model's best tight-end ever. So, yeah. I do think, I do think to your point, the usage was really frustrating with the lack of consistency there. Even if he is getting, you know, he is the focal point of opposing defenses every week. There were some brutal downstretches. But the touchdowns will come.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely with you. I mean, the touchdown, everybody's going to clamor for touchdown regression, so I'm certainly with you there. Falcons, you know, I looked in this too, just going through stuff for stat pack and stuff, but, you know, Falcons were bottom of the league in Red Zone drives per game, but they weren't stone last. Like, they were bottom 10, bottom 12.

So, I mean, they got into the scoring range often enough to the point where, you know, actually they were 16th in Red Zone Drive percentage. I mean, they got into the red zone enough where Pitts could have scored more, and I certainly think he will moving forward. Cal Pitts is like catnip to the fantasy industry though, man. You're not going to get a discount on this guy. Like I thought, you know, after this past year with the no touchdowns and everything, I thought he'd end up, I thought he'd end up being a little cheaper, but that is not,

it's looking like it's not the case in early drafts whatsoever. So if you want to buy Pitts, you're still going to be buying at a premium. I do think, Scott, final point on Pitts, like, you know, if you are ever going to buy in Dynasty, this is probably like the last time that you'll get a dip because I'm with you. I think he's going to improve on his rookie season. It just comes down to how big of a jump is it for redrafts. But for Dynasty, man, this is the time to buy. All right, good shit.

Want to get in the mail back here? Let's do it. All right. All right. First one from the great doctor, Dr. Edwin, who is, shout out to Evan, man. Edwin and I have become really close, really good friends the last year and a half. And he just took a big job with the twins organization working as a physical therapy. He's down to Fort Myers right now, chilling. Obviously, spring training has been postponed for the time being.

We'll see about the season. But Edmonds down at Fort Myers doing big things with the twins. So shout up to him. But he asks, is it is the Z new? He says in the show is two bars as the Z new. He says he squares it was an S. And look, man, it's always been the Z. You need to rededicate yourself to the feed.

But first and foremost, I wanted to name this the Barfield Hour, but Scott and not in favor of that. So I got shut down. So I feel like this is your fault, Scott. I voted for Scott Barrett featuring the Barfer. We should have done that and have some pretty sick, like, barf drops like old school radio old school sports radio you mess or or or scotty b and the goose scotty b and the goose goose i i used to do a weekly feature for uh buffalo's uh sports talk radio and it was

uh mike shop and the bulldog shout out to mike shop great guy but like they had the cliche you know drop before every spot where it was like mike shop on the bulls. dog so we could do something like that where it's just like Scott Barrett and the barfair and there's a sound of someone like hurling in the background but yeah I don't know what's going on with Edwin this is the Mandela effect Barronstein Barronstein bears it's always been two bars yeah yeah no are you a family guy fan I mean I was back in the day I watched the first like four seasons religiously they had a they had a bit of dingo and the baby That's what we definitely could bring back. You remember that one?

That's good. All right, from Tiny, shout out to Tiny, man. Mike Lentini's the man. He's transcribed like every one of our DFS shows over the last couple years. Actual question here, though. Of the new coaching hires, which ones do you think will have the biggest positive impact and worse fantasy impact overall? Scott, I'll let you go with this one.

Um, best. I, I, I, I kind of side with John Hanson that Doug Peterson may be a fraud, maybe. But I know I want Doug Peterson tight ends. Historically, Doug Peterson tight end smash for fantasy. I think Josh McDaniels, I mean, like no one really knows if these guys are any good, but just like his pedigree, Josh McDaniels and Bill Belichick was really, he always like had things super fragmented where he didn't want his coaches. to they were very specialized. He didn't give away too much information, but he opened things up to Josh McDaniels as a way to get him to stay. Mike McDaniel, obviously, a Kyle Shanhan protege. We love the Kyle Shanehan offenses.

Jalen Waddle is going to go absolutely nuclear. Actually, his ADP is skyrocketing, and I like it. I think he's going to be a super PPR machine, cheat code, yak monster. Kevin O'Connell is a little exciting. Brian Davel I really like just because Joe Judge was wholly incompetent. And, you know, we may see Daniel Jones run more.

We may see Cadarius Tony, like, featured those two weeks. He was featured and smashed. Maybe, yeah, maybe Kevin O'Connell, too. But those guys stand out to me. Yeah. Giant staff, man. Shout out to your giants. I mean, for what it's worth, I think they're building an awesome staff.

Yeah, they absolutely crushed it. man. The Mara's had to, I think, at this point, to kind of get this, this, this, this, uh, the ship right. Um, that's an easy layup, uh, giants for sure. I'm with you on McDaniel. That was probably my second, uh, my second favorite hire this year for all the reasons you, you pointed out with Waddle. I think he's going to be great for Tua, too. Um, dolphins obviously now, since, you know, Flores is out, uh, the power struggle has been one for obviously, uh, some, uh, lingering reasons as well. But, um, yeah, they're, they're in on toua for 2022 and I think McDaniel's going to do solid things for that. Honestly, man, I kind of felt like

this was kind of outside of that. I mean, McDaniels hire is interesting, but like you mentioned, I don't think anybody knows how McDaniels is going to go. I mean, hopefully he's learned a ton from his debacle in Denver. But, you know, there's Denver teams that's some good things too. I mean, they won a playoff game. I'm kind of excited to see what McDaniels does. But other than that, man, I kind of felt like this hiring season was was a, oh, oh, a little mood muted at best. I mean, especially with the Texans bringing in Lovie Smith, man.

What are they doing? You had David Culley. Like, if you're going to punt again in 2022, that's fine. But just like bring it, bring back the guy who actually, like, got his team to compete.

Lovey Smith. Yeah, and he lost Tim Kelly too. Yeah. And they lost him Kelly. David, Davis Mills was the most impressive rookie. And with like zero supporting cast. So,

yeah. Weird. Yeah. Really weird. Your boy Ben McAdoo, man. He's back. You're back in Carolina. Get excited.

Macadu-Doo. All right. Husker's Rule on Twitter, he's in our Super Flex lead. Good guy. Husker's Rule asked us, was drafting Kelsey in the first round worth that price? Or was it an over-buy last year? And I kind of think, man, I think if you drafted Kelsey like the 108 and non-tied-in premiums. It wasn't really like a win or a loss, honestly. I mean, you kind of just came out

at market average. And especially this past year, you know, unless you were drafting JT in the first round or Derek Henry in the first round, there was a lot of that. There's either a lot of like, you kind of didn't really gain a whole much with your first or second round pick or lost on that pick. And I kind of, you know, even though Kelsey's, Kelsey regressed had a couple bad games, which he did not have in 2020. I mean, he was still extremely. consistent on a weekly level. I kind of felt like you got, you know, you got your investment back. It was like a, you know, maybe a slight win, you know, but you weren't gaining a 150 or 150% ROI like you were with Jonathan Taylor, you know, an 80% ROI, whatever with, with Nixon if you

want to like use investment terms. But I know you were getting the first, how do you think that played out? I mean, I think meeting value is a win, especially considering a lot of first round picks, didn't come close to that feat. But yeah, according to Jeff Henderson's war stat, Kelsey finished as the number nine overall most valuable player. And that's about where he was being drafted. So I definitely call that a win. You would have done better with Mark Andrews, who finished fifth.

Maybe Don Schultz, who finished 36th. But no, I think that was definitely a win. And for some reason, he slipped another round by 80%. maybe just because he's older. But in bestball, I'm going to have a lot of Travis Kelsey just because you draft him and you draft some rando in round 16,

and then you're just done at the position while other guys are drafting Dallas Goddard, who I love, by the way, I love him this year, Logan Thomas and Cole Commet. And it's just like way, a much higher cost for less production. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

And you've got to, in best ball, you're spending three roster spots instead of two with Kelsey and, right. Put Kelsey and Adam Troutman. The Trout guy together, man. The Trout guy, exactly.

Book that as a win. All right, Jake Rick Road. My guy, Jake Rickrode, shout out to the fantasy game through your days. Those are like six, seven years ago now. Just crazy to think about. But he asked who is 2020's Fournet. Look, I mean, I think it's funny that a lot of the Zero Running Back guys hated Fournet. I think that's honestly hilarious.

Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, whatever. I'm not going to dig the knife and deeper there. This year's Fournet. It's so tough because, you know, Fournet, obviously, we knew the offense was great. We knew there would be layup, scoring, touchdown, chances, all of that. But what we didn't know, what we didn't know, Scott, is how good of a pass catcher, or winner for that would be.

He led all running backs in receptions per game, which was, I mean, I did not think that was in his range of outcomes whatsoever. Average more catches per game than Ackler, more catches per game than Najee Harris. And Najee Harris had like a 19 catch game or whatever. I just, we didn't see that. We didn't see that coming. I mean, he had 100 targets in 2019. Yeah, but, I mean, gee, I think, I guess the thing is like the geo injury combined with

geo really not even playing when he was healthy early in the year. I think that's what surprised me is that, you know, I thought geo would be the third down guy, but four and I just ended up being, you know, the full-blown workhorse. who is who is on that like radar to be the 22 four net for you i i'm sure i could come up with someone better but but i'm going to go with the obvious one i will just say the reason why jacob is bringing this up is because i wrote up four net in belcower bust i made a really compelling argument for him in 96 stats i actually drafted a lot of him but i hated it i like almost I came so close to deleting what I had for him in 96 stats.

And then Jacob retweeted it and was like, this is my favorite, you know, series of stats from the article like all on Leonard Fernette. And it's like, yeah, I almost deleted that. But like maybe I should maybe I should just like say that with my chest out with some conviction. And so yeah, he turned out to be awesome, but like really half-hearted in my touting for him. So I think it should be someone like that, someone where it feels gross, and like you don't really see it coming, but it could happen and pay off in a big way.

But I'm just going to go with the obvious one because it's all I can think of right now. That's Rashad Penny, who I mean was on an absolute freaking heater to close out the season. And like he was a guy. We all rode off his dust. Couldn't stay healthy, former first round pick. But I mean, our projections were all over. over him at the tail end of. So week 14, 137 rushing yards, two touchdowns. Next week, he got hurt. Week 16, 135 rushing yards, one touchdown. Week 17, 170 and two touchdowns. Week 18,

190 rushing yards in the score. So just like unreal levels of production. And we know, you know, Marshawn Lynch, Chris Carson, when he's healthy, that, you know, Pete really wants to just run the rock do not let russell wilson cook at any cost and so you know chris karsen has like a really serious injury to come back from he's never healthy yeah i've been drafting him in best balls too but but yeah i think i think pennies penny has massive upset i like that i like that a lot i mean yeah carson man i don't know if well you know chris carson's great story great production when healthy man but i don't know if we'll ever see him again this next thing sounds like it's a degenerative of. So I like that penny call. Mine is Melvin Gordon.

Oh, that would suck. Yeah. Just a running back that the whole fantasy industry has completely soured on. Everybody was sick of them because we all wanted Javonte Williams to break out. Melvin had a great year. He's going to get a nice little contract and piss off a lot of people. And we know he has three down potential. So I kind of like Melvin Gordon to maybe be this year's four net. just as somebody that, you know, we've seen in the past be an RB one, but, you know, not consistently enough, good enough pass catcher. Obviously, all of this is landing spot dependent too with Gordon, but yeah, kind of like so. So, so you know on team Belcower bust and redraft, but, but in best ball,

I'm very zero RB. You're really just like draft a running back in round one and then forget about it for a while. But I think this is an amazing year for that. So Rashad Penny is RB 32 by ADP. Miles Sanders, RB 35. Querell Patterson, RB 36. Melvin, RB 38. Gus Edwards, James Robinson, R.B. 42. Yeah, Robinson obviously scares the shit out of me with the late Achilles here. Oh, crap, right.

I actually just forgot about that. Yeah, no, no, it's all good. Like, you know, people are going to say, oh, Cam Acres came back really fast. Like, Cam Acres is literal best case scenario, like act of God. best case scenario with that. I don't, I don't think we can expect that with James Robinson. You're just extrapolating two different cases. Can we have a mini-cam Acres debate? Because I know we're on opposite sides of the fence. He is going, no, no, no, we were not on opposite sides of the fence. I just thought Acres was going a little too early. I didn't think she should be going out of

Taylor. I didn't think he should be on the comment Taylor. I loved him last year. I'm saying this year. This year he's going RB 14. He's in between Sequin Barclay, Antonio Gibson, David Montgomery, Aaron Jones, J.K. Dobbins, Ezekiel Elliott. And I mean, that Achilles still scares the crap out of me. I know he returned, but I didn't think he was at all really effective. I think we could see another committee situation. I think there's a high risk for compensatory injuries. I think he may never return to his baseline production and efficiency that we saw prior to the injury. So I have him in my own rankings like two rounds lower. Wow.

I know you like him, though. Yeah, I do. And it's because this Rams offensive line late in the year was dog shit. I mean, he was just constantly running into the back of his offensive. Well, is Whitworth retiring? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the big concern for me, man, is, you know, this,

this Rams offensive line is definitely, definitely a problem. You know, McVeigh in the past has done amazing things to kind of like, you know, counteract it and scheme up things and, you know, change up his blocking schemes. He's, you know, people like to shit on McVeigh for running the ball a lot. And he really is a genius with the run game. He's always been extremely fluid. Like, he'll, out of nowhere, he'll just start using 12 personnel. Like if he's not running it well, they'll get two tight ends in there,

move him around, get extra blockers and they'll start running the ball more effectively. So I'm betting on the talent. I'm betting on the situation. I'm betting on the role. It's interesting to hear you say that you think that there's going to be a committee. Like, you know, Michelle's gone. He's not coming back. Henderson's dealt with a number of major injuries in back-to-back years.

He had a really bad ankle injury in 2020, which actually allowed anchors to break out. And then he's dealt with injuries again in the back half of this year. I think you have like quad injury, ankle injury again. Henderson's no bet to stay on the field again. I don't know, man. I mean, they immediately, after that first game where Acres came back, they immediately made Michelle, like, a non-factor. I don't know.

I think Acres' role is probably better than people haven't been doing before. The Achilles just scares the crap out of me. It ruined Aryan Foster's career. Marlon Mack has done nothing since then. Isaiah Crowell dead. Danta Foreman is, like, the one possible hit. And even then, like, that's nothing. Beanie Wells, Kendall Hunter, Michael Ashore, Lundale White. It's just Vic Ballard. It's just a- My counter to that is no one really has the

talent pedigree that Acres had besides Foster out of that. Right. There's a larger, what Ed would say, I think is like a pool of talent or something like that. But that's not the right phrase. But yeah, I just think there's a chance he's like only ever 80% of who he was. And I don't see that being priced into ADP. Okay. Yeah, fair enough. I mean, you know, my larger concern is this offensive line and where they go from here because they just have, they don't have a lot of assets to kind of build it back.

Yeah. But at the same time, I mean, like, Stafford and Cup is like deadly. So lighter fronts and all that. Yeah, yeah. And Acres is, you know, a great pass. catcher. We just haven't really seen the Rams use the running backs as a high, you know, high volume pass catcher since the Gurley days. And even then, I mean, that was still like, you know, we're not talking about, you know, you know, girly wasn't getting eight targets

a game. Yeah. Hey, I mean, that is his upside. Like that girlie role was. Yeah, that's his upside, man. All time great. Yeah. So I was taking him everywhere last year. Yeah. And it's an even better offense. The line is definitely my concern. I had a stat. It was like, I think 60% of his Kerry's going to the Super Bowl. He was hit at or behind the line of scrimmage. I mean, that's... Just like college. Yeah, it's literally just like college. All right. At Fitz underscore 843, any and all thoughts on how to parse out these players

for next year, Calvin Ridley, Sequin, and Debo, obviously with Ridley, Nan. I mean, we just don't know. It kind of seems like Arthur Blank put out a statement a couple weeks ago saying that it seems like Ridley might move on so he could be out of Atlanta. We just really don't know with But let's talk through Sequin in Debo. Saquan, man, is, I think, by far more interesting debate. You know, all of the injuries aside, you know, now we've got this new staff that I'm excited about, you're excited about, everybody's excited about. How do we feel about Sequin?

Yeah, I kind of want to buy all three of these guys. But again, it comes back to my level of risk tolerance. So I was on Sequin this year, and that was a pretty big mistake where it's just like, hey, I know he's coming off of this injury, but if he stays healthy, he has that Christian McCaffrey upside where like very few people have that upside. Extensively utilizes a pass catcher, game script, immune, all of that. I know the offensive line is bad. I know the offense is bad.

But what really derailed his season was he picked up another high ankle sprain, and he's never played well with injuries. And that was really damning. But I think when you're coming off of a serious injury, the first year is very, very risky. But the year after that is a lot safer. And that's what we saw at Dalvin Cook. That's what a shout out Dr. David Chow told me over the phone when we talked about. He was like draft Dalvin Cook everywhere because he was coming off of the injury. He wasn't 100 percent. High risk of compensatory injuries. But this year he's going to go off and like that's kind of how i feel about saquine uh do you want to see really like if he can withstand a robust workload before you know uh it's it's it's it's right he has like

what one year left in his deal is that right yeah yeah and so see what he having him uh the new offense uh you know should be a lot better all that stuff uh Calvin ridley too uh concerns with him as like a full year off is like no joke he might not even come back like that's a legitimate concern, which is like one of the worst concerns possible, though it does seem like they're going to try and trade him. Also, wide receivers especially do not perform well on new teams. Historically, like, I don't know, like a 15% drop in fantasy production or more. Those are all concerns, but again, like risk tolerance, you could be getting an easy

wide receiver one at a wide receiver three price tag. So that's enticing to me. And then Debo, man, I mean, like everything about his new role felt fluky to me, especially by expected fantasy points. But just to like completely render Kittal obsolete, render IUC obsolete. They're going to definitely run more this year. But no, I mean, he, Cooper Cup had the best season ever. But Debo's season was like 25th best ever. So, or 14th best ever, if you count the 17th week.

so and he's not at all price like it so i i really like all three of these guys yeah um yeah on sayquan man like this if if you were a believer this is by far the best time to buy in dynasty i mean barclay since he was drafted in 2018 has been like no-brainer top 10 locked in top five for a number of years in adp i mean he is now going outside of like the top 15 20 picks and startup drafts I've seen, man. So, I mean, if you're, if you're trying to get Barclay, this is by far the best time, because I'm kind of with you. I ended up not having a ton of Barclay just because I kind of felt like he was a bit overpriced, like Derek Henry way more. So I just ended up with Henry over Barclay in a lot of my teams last year, but I still was

like kind of nibbling. He actually dipped into the second round of like one of my biggest drafts that I did with Joe and Tom. We ended up getting Barclay in the second round, starting Camara and Barkley with our draft, and we thought we hit the stone cold nuts. ended up not really panning out because Camara started bawling when Barkley was hurt and vice versa. Barkley came back when Camara's hurt. That being said, though, I mean, this is by far the best time to buy Barclay in Dynasty, if you're a believer.

He's playing under the fifth year option this year. So, you know, he's paying for another big payday. And I'm with you. Two years removed now from, you know, the major knee injury. You know, he never, he said that that ankle injury was going to bother him all year long. And he was right. You know, it did. And, I mean, also, I mean, all of this is like, he was playing with Mike Lennon for half the year.

So, yeah, I'm definitely on Saquan. You know, you guys know how I feel about Debo. You know, I think I, you know, in Dynasty, man, I mean, sure, Tray Lance is taking over. Sure, they're going to be lower volume pass offense, all of that. But, you know, the efficiency will dip. I'm with you that the rushing role probably not be as efficient as it was this past. year, but I mean, you're buying the talent. I want Debo and all my teams. All right. Great question here from a great at. Jell Walls Jiglin. At Jell Walls Jiglin. I got me rolling for a little bit

there. He asked simply, Justin Jefferson first, Jamar Chase, and Scott, I'll take this. One guy has Joe Burroughs as his quarterback for the next 10 years, and the other guy doesn't. I'll take Jamar Chase. Simple is that. Yeah, my argument would be, well, Chase is, I don't know if this is dynasty or redraft, but I don't think it matters. Chase is a full year younger and Chase had the better rookie season when he played together on the same team at LSU. Chase had the better season. And I think they're both like future Hall of Famers, no joke, no cap, whatever. But, I mean, Chase is the guy.

Yeah. It's the best rookie season ever, the end. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and it was a dynasty debate. I don't really think it's a debate now. This is speaking to somebody who's a ton of Justin Jefferson in Dynasty. Yeah, Jamar Chase, easy.

At 89, Tremaine, how would you rank the following for mid to late round wide receiver success out of like these variables? You got talent, scheme coach, and quarterback, and then perceived volume and opportunity. And I think you and I both agree, you know, volume and opportunity is the number one. one thing we should be chasing it at running back and wide receiver. But yeah, like how do you filter through, you know, when you're picking mid to late round wide receivers, how do you filter through all that? I mean, it's a tough question because they all feed into one another. Like, if you're talented, you get more volume and opportunity. If you have a competent coach, they'll realize they'll get their talented player, more volume and opportunity. I will just say they're all super

important. Like quarterback play is massive. Like it's so hard to differentiate what successful wide receiver play from successful quarterback play. They're so intertwined. And it's so necessary to have that. So I don't know. Yeah, I mean, like volume is probably the first thing I look for. But yeah, obviously quarterback talent, player talent is massive. And I'll look into scheme and coach. like Shanahan's wide receiver won as historically smash for fantasy. This year it was, I guess, Debo. A couple years before that it was Kittal. Before that, it was Julio, Pierre Garcone, and like those guys just every single year

smashed. Right. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think you said it perfectly. Like, they all kind of feed into each other. You know, Terry McLaren, the volume was great this past year. I mean, the market share, all of it is, I mean, I think he led all receivers in market chair of air yards. but he didn't have a quarterback.

Once again, I mean, he was just, poor guy. Yeah, I mean, he had the ball and chain quarterback again this year, just getting completely drug down by the dregs of the team. Or I guess it's the commanders now. We actually have a team for him now. Oh, I'm never, yeah, I'm going to screw that up every week. Oh, I mean, absolutely.

It just feels like an XFL team name. It really does. Shout out to the XFL. Shout out to Jeff Fisher. You got another job. All right, man. note. I'll do it. Good for a show back. I think you're doing something with West later this week on Dynasty, so look out for that. And yeah, man, we're running an early bird special. 20% off. Gets you

the whole 2022 season still. I still got the early bird coming out. Save you a few doll hairs. And yeah, man. Hey, by the way, I know you're going to Jersey. I'm going on a trip to. Are you bringing your podcast stuff? I can. Yeah, I should. All right. Yeah, do it. We'll do something on the road. we'll bring it back but uh yeah good stuff uh for scott check us out later this week i think scott's going to have a show with west and uh you can double up on on your uh on your podcast this week uh guys enjoy the rest of your week enjoy the combine here in a couple weeks we will be back probably in a week or two after we get done with our traveling soon welcome to fantasy points radio we bring to you Barfield and Peret

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