Fantasy Football Daily - 6 Players To Aggressively Trade For + Trade Concepts For The Dynasty Trade Deadline | Dynasty Points Market Report

Episode Date: November 24, 2024

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Welcome in. It's the week 12, Dynasty Points Market Report. I'm your host Thomas Temple. Joining me as always is Andy Buckler at Andy underscore Buckler. You can find me at El Nostra Thomas everywhere that social media exists, really. This week is a little different. This is a trade deadline type show, so I know there are people wondering who should we buy. Well, I've got six, seven players that I think we should be buying regardless of the cost. And we'll go over why, and then Buck gets to sit there and decide whether he agrees or not.

And we'll see if the market agrees or not. Like we always do, of course, we'll look at the most traded players right now. And then we will see what those players are going for and see if we like it or don't like it. We have a little bit less on what pissed us off this week. Not a lot on the fantasy internet drove us to rage this week. It was actually a nice, calming, relaxing week in that regard. And then, of course, we got trades that we made and so on and so forth. With that being said, if you listen to this Sunday morning,

you could have been listened to this Friday morning if you listen on the Dynasty Points podcast feed is where I suggest going if you enjoy this content. The Fantasy Points Now feed is being dissolved from what we know today. know of it today, I should say, and you're going to want to be subscribed to the individual podcast feeds that you enjoy. And hopefully, this podcast,

well, it's one of them. Next week, our first guest on this here show is going to be Iowa Mike. You know him from South Harmon Fantasy Football, the master of using war. We're going to bring Mike on to discuss some war, some trades. Have a good Thanksgiving time,

as I realize for our American listeners, which is pretty much all of you that is Thanksgiving next week. We are going to have content for that still. With that being said, Andy Buckler, it's showtime. Let's go. First, first, what ticked you off this week? So like you said, there wasn't a lot.

It wasn't a lot this week that pissed me off, really. The only thing is, is like the buy, low, sell high thing. I just think it's fake. It's not a real thing. It's easy for clicks, you know, it's easy to say that and tweet out by Garrett Wilson just because. and we'll get a couple hundred likes and like you're cool like this what it is i think it's like just a really dumb exercise mainly because it's just not real like buy low sell highs aren't real and then like buy

for what like we wait like similar to trey benson like it's like oh buy him now well i already held him for all this time and like what am i going to sell him for like well sell him like sell him for what you don't sell them for anything i don't want to re-roll a second like i'd rather just keep him so i hate the buy low sell high and the fantasy thing just like the blatant just buy low buy this player sell this player no context know what we're supposed to sell for no what we're supposed to buy for just straight to sell blank by blank

that's pissed me off I think we've even talked about that before but that's the only thing this week that really irritated me yeah I had somewhat of a conversation with this with pure potentials Paul Patterson a little bit today he was very happy he was out on rice at his very expensive

price when he became like wide receiver 13 and I was saying that there was no problem with his price at the time and yeah his his price on like a keep trade cut it did go up like that was for sure obvious uh but the prices when i looked at the trades from when he was at that peak does not reflect the market being woefully hired than where he was and that's where my sell high on player x kind of uh differs i suppose because yes on like a on a market to market basis. Yeah, maybe you can get the, the hymn price, right? We've,

we, I talked about it with Jacob when he made the trade with you with the the, the Jaden Reed and the first for Aminra, how I thought it was just bad. And I thought that having Jaden Reed over Garrett Wilson and Drake London was aggressively bad. But if you looked at the price when Jaden Reed was at his peak, you know, 28 days ago, 26 days ago, it's like a first and a second. That's just what his price is. That's what his price is now. So you can sell high. People might be telling you now, go buy low.

The difference is going to be the value of, like, what, a mid to late second, judging by what I'm looking at here. In most leagues, you're not getting Jaden Reed for a first, and you're not getting Jaden Reed without coughing up a second. And then at his peak, it was like two first, which is like a first plus two seconds, maybe two first. I don't even know about that. Just judging by what I'm looking at here.

So it's on Dynasty Daddy, that is. So I think you're right in that the, high sell. I think there's obvious players that you should be trying to get rid of. But I don't think it's like a sell high because the player goes out and scores 35 points and they average like 10 points every other game in the year. Somebody knows you're trying to sell high and it just the opportunity isn't actually there. Yeah. Like it's an exercise you can do like you could it makes you like the buy low. We always say like buy low don't really exist but buying windows exist right. Like Dylan Waddle isn't necessarily worth a second.

Like he's going for more, but he's way more available. Got like a Chris Olave, kind of a buy low right now. People are really willing to sell him with his concussion stuff and with not playing. So windows exist. You know, buy high windows exist. But when we just do like the blatant, like just the buy low, sell high and we don't have anything in context of what we're supposed to do with or what we're supposed to stuff. It's like any time a player is a good game. Like this really set me off at Tray Benson.

And we talked to a, I was talking to camera about this. Tray Bence is like the one that set this off. It's like, oh, sell Tray Benson and now you had 60 yards. It's like, okay, for what? Sick, I can get a couple thirds. Like, it's dumb. It's all for like, you know, so you can go back in a week and do the, did you listen? Did you listen?

Yeah. Yeah, and that's something I definitely don't do. Because, look, it just is what it is. You get a player that you sell now and, you know, we're happy with it for three weeks or four weeks. That player you sold has another two weeks. Someone's going to be like, I told you to buy. The opposite side of the argument's going to go, I told you to buy low.

It just depends what you want to look at at that time. I'm very much in agreement with this. I think that it's okay to sell players when they're at a peak, but the idea that you're going to maximize every single trade doesn't mean you shouldn't try, right? We all know that you should try to get top dollar. I mean, I argued to the point where I will blow a deal up if I don't get a third back if I feel like I should.

I'll always try to get the top dollar when I can. The blanket statement is where the issue is. So, yeah, Paul and I had a pretty good convo on that. I think we just see it differently in terms of what the actual values might be. But that was actually, it's funny that you have that as your what pissed me off, because I did kind of have that kind of conversation today, this today being Thursday, the 21st is when we're recording this. So, yeah, pretty interesting to see how that changes for people.

I did move Jaden Reed. I think Jain Reed is wide receiver 17 now on the FantasyPoints. He's just kind of, that's probably just probably where he'll live, like from 14 to 17. If the league lets him earn more targets, it'll be a scary, scary player. But all right, let's dive into the next set here. We have actually, you know what we should do, Buck. Let's take a first break. Let's go.

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ourselves have made you have a couple again not accompanied with screenshots in the year of 24 on the show sheet you still choose to just type it out I respect that hustle from you a simple man yeah we're gonna get the so there's these buttons on your cell phone buck i don't know if you know this or not but if you just click right the sides of them together you'll take a screenshot you kids in your technology or your jibba jabba jump shots i got my typing uh this pictures it's a fucking typewriter something oh my god uh let's talk about the trades uh you made here your first one you you're giving up dj more yeah

So this is a league I've been talking about most like the last three podcasts where I'm contending, but I'm still trying to sell off pieces while I'm doing it. And DJ Moore is like my last piece that he's not old. He's going to be 28, but he's not young and he sucks this season. So I wanted to just trade him before, kind of before he lost all value. And I'm not going to lie. I think I really didn't get great value out of it, especially because now on my team, I have no third wide receiver.

So it was a risky deal But I ended up getting a projected late 25 first I said okay actually I saw DJ Moore and Kareem Hunt I forgot he was in the deal For a projected late 25 first Three force a third Tage Spears Cooper Rush

Andy Dalton and 100 fab A lot of the stuff is It's fluff at the end But this is how the counter ended up But it's really just garbage It's really just a first The DJ Moore where I broke it out Is a first and Taj Spears for him

For DJ Moore That's like the part of the trade that matters You really said Cooper Rush. Yeah, actually, so I did that to be petty. So I got him into the deal because I have, I'm fighting for a buy week, and the league's really close. And I don't have Josh Allen this week, so I was petty. I'm like, let me just, and I need the dude I need to beat. I need to keep him out of the playoffs.

And it's been like a little, like, friendly beef in the league. So I had to make sure I got a quarterback. So I had to get Cooper Rush in there just to be petty. That's why I have him. Amazing. I think it's fine. Like you lose a little bit and it's always tough on a contender

to send a player away but that's one of those situations where you can be a contender and still be acquiring value. I'm fine with it. Yeah, this is also why you got to watch when you try to trade for someone who is also trying to contend

you trade for their first because I traded for his first. I was up on him on like 300 points. He was 7 and 3, but his points for didn't match. As soon as he did that trip with me to get DJ Moore, he then bought a Monrod. and Christopher Caffrey.

So it just flipped the made the first even worse. Like obviously, if you're sending away a first, you would be smart that you had other deals lined up for more players. So that kind of screwed me and like that pick is a lot worse now if I knew that before. But my other deal was actually in a listener league. I'm in a rebuild. I sent away Trace Brown, who I bought from you for a third. And I flipped him.

I got a mid to late 25 first straight up. Yeah, that's straight cooking right there. Yeah. it's a like obviously chase brown is a is a tough player because he's going to be a top five running back for the rest of the season he's just an asset i don't want to my team anymore because i'm not winning i need to get the points off i'm already scoring way too many points and chase brown is like a interesting future he's kind of an interesting buy because there is a world where he does open up week one next year as a starter with the bengals probably more really than not yeah i think they'll draft someone or they'll bring someone in and i just like don't really think he's that good he's like the new version of kairn like he's He has a good role, but like, is he that good? I don't know. He hasn't been. I thought he was supposed to be like this player with a bunch of bursts and a bunch of like juice and he's kind of a plodder.

So I don't know. But he's probably like the most polarizing player in Dynasty right now, I would say one of the more traded players. But those are my only two deals, what you got. Yeah, I mean, I say I don't like that one because you low key found a way to throw me under the bus there. So shout out to you for doing that. Co-host on co-host violence just now. So that's fun. All right.

We got a trade that we both, this is our in the listener league, in one of the listener leagues, we are co-managing this team. We've had the Mark Andrews situation where we thought he was all the way back. Then Isaiah likely plays again, and then Andrews died again. So we got sent Kate Otten for two seconds, and we both said,

no. We said we do it for one second, and he countered back if he can get a fourth. And I immediately thought of you right away. and I laughed and I said yeah I don't care about the fourth and so we got kate otten for a 26 second and a 25 fourth which I don't hate at all because he's going to continue to get targets as we go here and the schedule is nice so I like this deal we're obviously contending we're the number one team to finish this is like a mid-season start up but we're the number one team right now

because you know that's what we do so I like that one and then in a full tilt league that has been around for quite a while I need to get points off of this roster I traded away Chase Brown for Cedric Tillman and a 25 second so obviously this is contingent on I could not get a first I tried I tried I turned down like a David Montgomery

and a third I had turned down a DJ Moore and a three just none of that stuff really really stored out to me yeah yeah I turned that down the DJ Marwan Yeah, I turned down DJ Moore for sure. Over, but like, Tillman in a second over DJ Moore and a third.

Yeah, I would do that. Yeah. So even this last week, like, Tillman in his last game, even though he didn't, he wasn't the one that blew up, like his target share and everything was still good. So I still, I still believe in him. So to me, that's two seconds for Brown, which is a first eval, but I wanted to get a player back as well. DJ Moore just he just is what he is like would you have a player that has a blowup season like that but we have like a really long track record of what he is I'm very much a he will regress to the means type guy and he has but he's not though like we actually have a lot of like

data on him that suggests he's very good he's not he is good he's always been good but he's not regressing to the mean though like he's on pace for 700 yards like he's he's regressing to like waiver player sure but what i mean is like when you have him at his peak right i'm not gonna buy at that peak so when i say regressing to the mean like we know how good of a player is we knew what that situation was going to be like i don't think he is that elite player like i don't think he is that 2023 2024 guy that was like a perfect storm so when i say like i'm good with him he's going to be a what is he going to be 27 28 years old 28 yeah i'm good right i'll take the younger guy with the second like is DJ Moore's value really going to climb that much higher in the foreseeable future?

Not really. But Tillman might. All Tillman needs is a good runout for the rest of the year. And he and DJ Moore are going to be valued similarly. So I'm willing to take the risk on it. I'm willing to take the bet knowing that I couldn't get the first. Yeah, I agree. So I'm okay with that deal.

Personally, those are the only two trades I made after making like 10 the week before and taking up 40 minutes of this podcast on it. Those are the only trades. that I made this week. So let's have a look at the players that have been traded the most. Let's have a look at that. As of right now, if you go to Dynasty Daddy and you just look, it says in the trade database, it'll tell you who the most traded players are.

And right now, it is Joanne Jennings. There have been 1,312 trades involving Jennings. He's obviously a buy. We want to buy Jennings. We're going to talk about him later. Surprisingly enough, we have Calvin Ridley, Mike Evans, Christian McCaffrey, Cortland Sutton, Chris Alave, Tyreek Hill, Darnel Mooney, like just some very interesting names. Mike Evans, Cedric Tillman.

So some very interesting names. What we're going to do is we're going to hit the button and we're going to have a look at some of these deals and see what we get. We're going to go with... There we go over the last two weeks. All right. Let's have a look at some of these trades. So obviously,

Joanne Jennings is the guy we do want to talk about. We're going to talk a little bit more. Actually, no, we're going to skip John Jennings. We're going to talk about him later. And I want to be able to vote one player we don't have on this list is Chris Alave. Let's talk Chris Alave because you did mention him. We have from today. And remember, all of these trades are two quarterback,

12 teams start 10 full PPR, half point, tight end premium. So very important. Chris Alave, one of the more traded for players right now. Let's see if we like any of these deals. So if you're wondering whether what you should do with Chris Alave, here you go. Chris Alave or Cooper Cup and Mark Andrews. Chris Alave, that's easy for me. Pretty easy for me as well.

Chris Alave or DJ Moore? Chris Alave. Yeah, see, I really think about Chris Alave, I think he's super available. Like we talk about Bilos and Salis only exists. I think they do with him. I've been getting a bunch of offers, me trying, obtaining, like people sending me Olavet. I think he's really available. If you can get DJ Moore, I would do that if people are scared about the concussion.

Yeah, absolutely. Chris Olave and Sam Darnold or Jordan Addison. That's easy, Chris Alave. Easy. Chris Alave or James Connor, a 25 second and a 254th. That's another easy oliva. Agreed. Chris Alave or Josh Downs and a 253rd.

Olave. That's a closer one. So I would be going out and running to buy Chris Oliva right now. I agree. Another player. Let's see who is getting traded the most. Najee Harris is one of the most traded for players. My cat.

That is on the market right now. Let's have a look because this man is getting disrespected. You should be going out and trying to acquire Najee Harris. talked about this with Guru on the Wednesday hump day with Hansen he and I both big on Najee and acquiring

you've got Tankdale and a fourth or Najee I want Najee I would take that as well which makes me sad given how in I was on Tankdale Najee Harrison a 25 fourth

or Andre Yoshivas and a 25 second not Yoshavas again yeah Yoshio again yeah I can see myself taking a two for him but I hear I would take Naji. Yeah, that's a little bit.

Obviously, we've got from three days ago a 26 first or Naji Harris. Yeah, it's easy first. That's now we're getting into pretty iffy territory there. But at the same time, same day, different league, 26 second or Naji Harris. I am more than okay paying a second for him if I need a starting running back. Me too. I'd also, like I said, I would also sell for it too. I'm a little more worried about Naji, I think, rest of the season because he does have the

toughest schedule remaining for running backs. We talked about that. Last week, Warren has his rollback. He's dominating the routes out of the backfield. Now, he's kind of back to, like, being a plotter. Like, he's been way better, but still kind of bad lately. And his matches are tough. So I don't, I want to buy him, if you could.

He's also, like, how bad the players are. Probably not that available. But I also don't want to go crazy on him, because I do think he's going to have a lot of, like, 10-point games. Yeah, but you've always said you'd win some of the championship. Oh, oh. 10 points out of your RP 2. I would, but it's also so hard to buy those 10 point running backs.

You have to buy them in the startup and no-on-once them. Like 14-round Naji, wouldn't let me get them. But, okay, go ahead. Ouch, again, I'm just getting, I'm getting thrown out to the bus today. And Luke McCaffrey into 253rd for Nagee. I think we buy Nagee at that price. Yeah, that's a fake player. He kind of is, yeah, for sure.

I would agree with that. There's one player that I want to talk about that. I'm just not interested in buying, but I see 747 trades. He is the eighth receiver, eight most, oh my goodness. Brandon Ayyuk is the eighth most traded wide receiver. There you go. I had to think about how to get that out. I'm not buying.

I'm just not buying. I'm not doing it. But obviously everything is pretty cost dependent, but honestly for the most part, a lot of these trades just feel like it's converting iuk into points at pretty much any cost and i'm wondering how much of that is joan again we'll talk about joan jennings here soon but from today you got rico dattle at 262 a 263 into 252 or brandon iuk iwke i want i yuk there that's close for me but i think i agree you've got christian kirk brandon i yuk or dj more man i think i think i think i want i yuk interesting

You got Brandon Ayyuk or Darnell Mooney and Brian Robinson. Ayuk. Interesting. Easily. Easily? So you would do that even if you're like. Yeah. I mean, I don't really care about either of those two players.

Iyuk's one of the hardest players and all the dynasty for me to gauge. I have him on a team and like converting him to points is like what you have to do like you said. And I have gotten offers where it's like straight, just like straight points players for Iyuk. I'm not in a situation where like I need it so bad. so I've declined them. But it's just like he's just a player. I really just can't figure out. Like I'll be honest.

I really just can't. Like I'm not buying, but I also don't want to eat them. Like I don't know. Like, so I'm interested to hear a couple more. That's exactly why we do these exercises. Because in my head,

I'm like, I'm not buying, but I see some of these and they're kind of telling me that I should change my tune here a little bit, which is why we do this segment of the podcast. You've got Marvin Mims in Jordan Addison or Brandon Ayyuk. See, this is a tough one.

Well, yeah, because I got your boy Addison in there. I know, I know. And he's been, Addison is really like such an enigma right now because he's so bad if you just look at the box. Man, he's been really good, though. Like, for a round, so he's been really good. We'll talk about him next week. I have some stuff on him.

I think I want Addison. I'd rather have the young player that's still playing right now, and I'll see what happens. I think I want him. I want, I want Charton Addison there. Okay. We've got Brandon Ayyuk or Xavier Worthy. IYuk.

We've got Jameson Williams or Brandon Ayuk. Brandon Ayuk. You almost got you. Almost got you. I think that's fair. Or Brandon Ayuk and a 253 or Jaden Reed. Read. I agree.

I would take read there no matter what. And just for fun, we got Mike Evans or Brandon Ayuk. So this is a tough one for me because this is a trade I'm wrestling with in a league. And I've declined it. I'm on the Iuke side. I declined that deal. So I'm on Iyuk right now But that's a tough one

I can see it both ways If you really need the points Like you're really struggling For the points I can see you go trade for Mike Evans Trade IUC for Evans I'm in the situation in that league Where I have a bunch of players

I can play So I don't need to get the points off my right Like to get points So I want I yuk there But I think it's really team dependent And I also think Mike Evans Like obviously he's been a really good player Like an actual matchup swinging player

And he is but he'll be 32 With all this hamstring stuff coming back So I don't know I want I want I you because I think once you trade for Mike Evans, he's a player that probably pretty stuck with at this point. See, I think I'm almost,

I think I'm okay taking Evans there, even if it's like a two to three year projection. I think over the next two to three years, if you tell me he and Mike Evans score the same, I'd be like, yeah, like I'm okay with like, sure.

Like Evans is under contract. He's got Baker. Yeah, situation is what it is. I don't know. At that point, I think that's an L. Like,

if they score the same, I would just want the player that's six years younger. Yeah, I think that's fair, but I mean, you're not going to get those points for a year and a half. Yeah, we also like, and I don't disagree about the whole like, oh, IEuk, you know, we start doing the timeline. He's 20, still turn 27 now, then knee, all that. It's like, I don't know, people come back faster and ever, faster and faster every year. Like, his upside was already limited in that scenario, like in San Francisco. Yeah, but.

I got all of the most overdrafted receiver for the last couple of years. Yeah, but the situation is going to, like, it's, it could change so quick, right? Like, Debo looks terrible. This season looks really slow. It looks really bad. They can get rid of him. Restructure him or, you know, just get rid of him. The kiddell's always heard he's 31 already, I think.

So it'll be 32 next October, I think. The situation could change fast. We'll get a bunch of reports of, like, him being ahead of schedule and all that. I just think there's going to be a lot more outs on IUC. If you really need the points, like, I'm not going to say it's a bad trade. But also, like, think, I think, like, all this stuff now makes a lot of sense when we look back and all of us is going to end up like kind of bullshit. all right i mean that's fair but i i don't know i think i think i'm just buying evans there especially if i'm on a team that could use him for points like he could be legitimately

be league winning again this year so that's a couple of players that are some of the most traded that's three or four let's let's give a couple more that i think are interesting a lot of people are wondering what to do with tyrone tracy right now obviously i will was a big fan, but his price is all over the place. So we should break it down. Let's have a conversation about Tyrone Tracy Jr. Obviously, he's had a good rookie year. Here are a couple of recent trades over the last week and a half for Tyrone Tracy Jr.

Tyrone Tracy or Lucas Crull, a 251 and a 254th. Who the fuck is the first guy? He's a 29-year-old rookie tight end. I actually had 100% of him this off-season. So shock at one point, but now I want any first for Tracy. Okay. So that's interesting. We're going to see how often that comes up.

Tyrone Tracy in a 27 third or A.D. Mitchell in a 25 second. Tracy. Yeah, that seems like selling low on Tracy and I'm not with that. Jameson Williams in a 25 third or Tyrone Tracy. I think it's dependent. I think I want JMO. Interesting. I want Tracy there.

a 251 and a 252 or Tyrone Tracy and Mike Evans So it's like it's a one for Tracy and it's straight two for Evans basically Yeah yeah I can see you making a deal if you're trying to rebuild I think you kind of sold low at least like a can get through get an extra second extra third or something But I think it's fine Yep Yep that's what I mean like so his values a lot of these are

You know a 25 second Amari Cooper and Tony Paul or Tyrone Tracy. My God, I think I just want Pollard. Like Tracy's a 25-year-old fifth-round rookie, man. Like, he turns 25 in two days. And I know, like, I know he's been great.

I know he's so good, but he's like a, what do you win when you win player? You pay a first for him. Rest of the season at this point, he's the starting running back on the Giants, anemic offense with Tommy Cutlets starting for the rest of the year. He doesn't catch the ball as much as you think he should.

He's a converted wide receiver. that's the whole point we wanted him right he's supposed to be this like ppr scam i don't have the numbers in front of me he doesn't catch the ball i'm not saying he can't obviously can but he's not used that way he doesn't do that and he's just he's the odds of him getting replaced are just so high like we do this every year with players like him and i don't want to say oh he's he's he's tyler aljir but tyler aljia was an older prospect rookie at a thousand yards as a as a rookie uh day three pick and i bought into like man he was just so good as a rookie. Like, I like buying in, but then he still got, like, he still got Bejohned. Like Tyrone Tracy at this point, like I said, he is going to be 25 as a rookie running back.

And the odds are at this point, Joe Shone is out of there. He's going to be fired. Brian Dayball, whether we agree or disagree, the seat is definitely warm for him now with, I mean, the Giants are operated by John Mara. Like, that's just how it goes. So if they lose out, which they should be losing out. Dayball is probably going to be gone. A very chance of being gone. We know Tracy. We know all the weapons.

Like definitely benefit from Dayball. And Dayball and Shona are the guys that won him and drafted him. He can easily get replaced. I think it's a dangerous game. Dangerous game set him wants for players like him. Even regardless of like how good he's been, I don't care. I think it's a dangerous game with him, man. For real.

Yeah. And he hasn't caught more than three passes, I think, in the last. I think he has one game where he's, caught more than three, if I'm not mistaken. That was his six catch game. And he is 18 on the year. 18 catches on the year. Yeah, he has one game with more than three targets.

And he is one game with more than six catches. And he was six catches for 57 yards against Cincinnati. Throw him the ball. He had two targets and one catch versus Carolina. Like, let's get him the ball. He doesn't have a terrible schedule, I suppose. But there are other running backs that I would just rather be buying for running back production.

I think the last thing I'll say, I don't mean to cut you off, last thing I'll say about him is I think it's, I'm sorry, I think it's fine to miss out on him. Like, if you didn't get him in the rookie draft, you didn't get him off of free agency,

like I don't see a reason to chase him. Like, just, just like deal with it. Just take the L and move on. I think, like I said, I don't like buying him for anything.

Like, not for anything, obviously, but at his peak price, so this is a sell. If you hit on him, just like, just hold.

It's fine, hold him. To go out and chase this, I'm good. I think even on a contending team where I have him, I'm willing to sell. I would too. If I'm being totally honest. It's not like he projects that well the rest of the season. I mean, he should project it's like a low, like a RB 10 to 15.

But you can let you can sell them. If you can get a first of him, just take that. Yeah, I think I'm mostly in agreeance with you here 100%. I am just trying to find. I can't find out. There's some data that I was trying to pull really. fast. I was not totally expecting to talk about him today. But yeah, it's, it's not looking great for him. One more player I want to talk about is DeAndre Swift. I called him a dynasty

zero. Then he had a couple of good games. And I had someone named Jacob Sanderson try to dunk on me for it on the podcast. And he's kind of back to being a zero. John Dre Swift saw just a 58.3% carry share his lowest since week one and a 51.2% backfield expected fantasy point share. His lowest since week three says first game under the new offensive coordinator Thomas Brown. Rochon Johnson became more involved. He had 10 of the 24 carries and three of the four inside the 10 yard line. That's bad. If you add in the coach speak from Iber Fluse, which is still a hilarious name to me, he said that he is no problem playing

more two-back system, which is very bad if you're D'Andre Swift. And the Bears' next five opponents are bottom five schedule adjusted fantasy matchups for running backs. That's bad. That's really bad. So let's talk about him. He's been a sell for me for a while.

He is a must sell for me immediately. Let's talk about some of the trades with him. D'Andre Swift or Jahim Bell in a 25 second. I think the second is fine. I have a lot team that like i'm going to be honest i don't know if i can afford to take a second for him but i think it's fine i'll be honest i don't think i could afford to lose him

yeah i just think you should be selling them for whatever you could get like dandre swift and a 26 third for dj more i would take dj more we got to buy dj more like we think we do have to buy dj more a little bit he seems to be a little bit disrespected we got dandre swift and two fourths in twenty twenty six or jordan addison adison easily i wouldn't even blink at that. But then we got situations like this where I'm way out on DeAndre Swift, but you can buy them for a 26 and a 253rd, apparently.

Yeah, that's super cheap. I have a couple more that you had on Roshan. I just have a couple more. So in week 11, he got 88% of the short down and distance snaps, 82% of long down in distance, and 67% inside the 5 and played 100% of the 2 minute. So, yeah, it's pretty bad.

Roshan also sucks. Like, can we stop playing him? But yeah, that's I didn't realize the numbers were that, like, bad for Swift. Yeah, it was kind of shocking when I read the Everything report and saw that there. But it's a lot of seconds. You got two seconds or DeAndre Swift. I mean, I don't care how much my team needs them. I'm probably taking the two seconds.

The two-twos, I would take for sure. Yeah. You've got a 25-1 and a 25-2 for Swift, Pat Friarmuth, and a 25-4th. That is an outlier-type trade that I don't think you can get elsewhere, but Godspeed and good luck. You got like DeAndre Swift or Will Levis. That's got. I want Swift there.

DK. Metcalfe or DeAndre Swift and a 253rd. That's a free DK of all the time. That is a free DK. That is the JSN effect. That is JSN having a good game and people overcorrecting. We're going to talk about JSN because, again, we have to with the comments that were on Twitter this week. So we're going to talk about that and give it some context.

So those are players that are being traded right now and kind of what they are. Obviously, there's a ton more. We don't have time to get into a bunch of them. But it kind of gives you an idea of some trade structures, some trade offers that you could be going and getting whether you need to buy or need to sell some of these guys. So I'm glad we were able to do that. Kind of surprising.

It sounds like we need to actually be buying IUC when I said I wouldn't want to heading into that. And my immediate takeaway is we need to buy some DJ Moore. And Addison, we need to buy some of these wide receivers like 24 through 35s. That's what it's looking like to me. And then you add a lave into that. It feels like that's what it's becoming. 100%.

All right. We have got six players, six or seven players that I think you should be buying regardless of price. And Buck is going to tell me if I am right or wrong. and we're going to dive into how some of those trades look in terms of market via Dynasty Daddy and some other things. So sit tight. We'll be right back with that. All right, Buck, here we go.

This is where leagues are won right here. That's where we get our bread. Let's go where we get the bread. I think we're going to start this off pretty strong with a player that maybe I didn't believe in as much. We're going to talk. Let's talk about George Pickens because he is. is or was when I looked up last, the wide receiver 13 on sites like keep trade cut. He was already fairly expensive in terms of acquiring.

Now he is very expensive in terms of acquiring. People who had him just liked him. I wasn't big on his startup price, right, round six and around five. I don't know if I still want to pay those prices, but we are going to put that to the test. it looks like from my just quickly glancing over, he's kind of still acquireable. So let's talk about Pickens. Since Russ took over,

he has a 27% target share, a 14.3a dot, a 3.04 yards per outrun. He passes the eye test, a 28% target per outrun. He is the first read on nearly 40% of the plays here. He's a 17.7 fantasy points per game. That's wide receiver 7. he is punching above by 1.1 point.

I don't know how the discrepancy is for that and where that ranks in terms of wide receivers, but that's not too bad. That is kind of on pace. That is kind of on par. Granted, some of this is that he cooked one of the worst defensive backs in the NFL last week and Brandon Stevens, who allowed like 50, over 50% of like Russ's yards

or something like that against Baltimore. That guy sucks. but without Russ, obviously a 10.1 fantasy points per game. The A dot is similar at 12.8. The targets per route run is the same. And the target share is kind of the same. So it's just the quality of targets is obviously getting better with the deep ball, etc. Now Russ is the quarterback.

I think Russ is the quarterback next year at this rate. I think Pittsburgh probably, not probably. do win that division. They go into the playoffs. Maybe they win a playoff game. I think Russ comes back. I think he's the guy. So we can kind of project this usage for next year as well.

Now long, long term, they're obviously going to need another quarterback, and we don't know how that's going to go, but we know that he's not quarterback proof. So that has to be tied in here a little bit in terms of giving up assets to acquire. But I'm willing to go acquire.

He's going to be more expensive than what we list off here in most leagues. I imagine a first and a second does not get you, George Pickens, off the teams that already have him. The teams that already have them are probably contending, which is something that is lost in a lot of the you have to buy Player X type content. It's who has him, but let's check on who has them and see what we can do. Here's a couple ideas. Again, all two quarterback 12 teams start 10 full PPR, 0.5 tight end premium. you tell me, because I am pro by him at 90% of these trades. Let's have a look.

Jared Gough for George Pickens. Pickens. Agreed. Rishi Rice, George Pickens, and a 25 first, or T. Higgins, and two firsts. Okay. Because these are the type of deals that are getting done. Break that down one more time. Rishi Rice.

Okay. George Pickens. Okay. Or 251. All right. Or T. Higgins, a. 271 and a 251. Okay, so Higgins and Pickens are even out there the same.

I get, I want the, I want the players in the first. I want Rice Pickens in the first. Agreed. I'm in agreeance there. I wasn't sure how you were going to operate with that. That's probably the type of trade that you're going to have to make. I imagine the guy getting Rishi Rice is getting the better 251 in a deal like this. So that's probably the structure of a trade.

You're kind of going to have to go about. to get here's one that's obviously from a contender to a rebuilder to a contender trey benson and at 25 first or george pickens benson and the first interesting i would take pickings here uh waddle and likely or pickins uh pickins we don't even got to speak on the other side agreed uh pickins or jonathan taylor j t see i'm taking pickins taylor is a must get off my roster. I'd love to have that argument. I want them off my rosters.

A 25 first and a 25 second for George Pickens. I think that's about market. That's about what I think is market is going to be one way or the other. See a couple of those. Rishie Rice straight up for George Pickens. Pickens. Agreed, but I can see you doing this if you are trying to get points off your roster. Rishu Rice is going to be nice back on your team next year.

George Pickens or Bucky Irving in a 25 second Oh that's easy Pickens Easy Pickens I see what you did that That's nice I like that The clip that that might be a teaser

We got I can't believe I'm going to read this name out in 2024 buck Paris Campbell A 25 first or 26 third or George Pickens I guess honestly I don't even know where Paris Campbell's play

Is he on me either I think I would decline it I would decline it just reading Paris Campbell's. It would just piss me off so much that somebody would have the nerve to add him into a trade. Yeah, that just might be a decline

on principle. But we've got some funny money deals here, which I don't know how much we can apply to it, but I think it matters in terms of the micro-market context of deals. We've got Dontavian Wicks a 25-4 and a 26-first for George Pickens. This easy pickings again.

easy i didn't know we were still trading for dontavian wicks in twenty twenty four i thought the same thing i thought we were done with that whole thing but we got george pickens or demario douglas and chris godwin oh that's easy again easy easy easy for george pickens like that is one-sided like that is a that is a get the league up in arms tight deal so we have seen that more often than not when we look at this and you can go and do this same um exercise size on Dynasty Daddy or Fantasy Calc. We like Dynasty Daddy. The displays a little bit better, a little more

customizable, so that's the one I prefer there. Pretty interesting deals for George. For me, this is just confirming now. I want George Pickens on my roster and I'm willing to make those prices work.

Again, I don't think in my own leagues that I will get those deals because receivers are generally valued higher than I would I would dare to say a casual not I won't say casually because that's insulting but a more commonly I suppose uh would be valued but I'm kind of willing to pay that iron price he's going to be good the rest of this year you think he's going to be fine next year so long as Russ is there willing to take the risk young wide receiver I've been a I've been a hayda but I still

think this is cheaper than what you're going to have to get him in a startup so if you don't I'm definitely not drafting him and a startup. I'm pretty much like not interested in acquiring him at wide receiver 13 costs. Someone else can have These don't feel like wide receiver 13 costs. This is the Jaden Reed thing though and I talked about at the top of the show.

Right? You might be ranked there, but that's not what the cost is. Like it's not going to cost you the same thing as Drake London will. So I think that's important. Do you want to talk about Jonathan Taylor? Because I kind of want to talk about Jonathan Taylor real quick. We could. Or we could save him for next week. I don't have a bunch of data. But let's

Let's set up the fight. All right. We're going to set up the fight for next week. Richardson comes back, immediately vultures the two goal line carries for touchdowns against the Jets, not Taylor. And now Taylor looks like every other running back that doesn't catch passes. That's a problem. If that continues, if they're just going to unleash Richardson at the goal line,

Jonathan Taylor's value is toast at 25, 26 years old. Yeah, he just doesn't catch passes. We talked about that preseason. I remember because we did a Jonathan Taylor deal. and I was like, if he doesn't catch the ball, all this stuff. Yeah, I'm looking like I got absolutely hosed on that, by the way. Let's talk about it. I don't want to talk about that.

I already cooked you twice. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it. But I don't know. I don't think, like Jonathan Taylor, man, like that dude is like really damn good. And I don't want to. And I don't want to be like, oh, I just want to get him off my team, get off my team. I understand.

I understand your point. He is a 25. I know he's 25 right now. I'm not showing his birthday. is it a 25-year-old running back on a second contract that's often injured, right? Like, he's living now in the fourth round of startups. He's not moving. I get it.

But I also, like, I just don't mind just writing it out with him and just keeping him, man. Like, he'll be 28 still playing and being fine. Like, yeah, well, he lose value, sure. But I'm starting to just, like, I don't want to overcorrect the age cliff because I think it's a thing. And I know it's the thing. But we just write off these running backs so damn early now. Like, we see Joe Mixen, right? he's in a new situation he's 29 or 28 battery 29

Aaron Jones 29 years old Derek Henry 30 Seacon Barclay 27 those are all the elite of elites I believe Jonathan Taylor is the elite elite So I don't think it's like You should think like oh John Taylor 25 get him off he's done I mean it's fine just eat value and just keep him

Like you said George Pick him What? Because he's he's gonna be like When you have players like him You need to look at redraft ADP at least a little right So you have, like, he is going to be like a first round redraft player for the next two years. I don't think so. I'll tell you.

I don't think so. Not with the rookie class coming in. Like the rookie class is like, class like one guy. He is, he's at 20 points in one game, fuck this year. 20 points in PPR in one game. He's got 13 receptions for 111 yards. That's terrible. Like, you can play Naji and get replaceable production right now.

Like, that's bad. Like, what am I getting for him? I know you said picking. I know you see that. And I picked the Taylor side, but it's like, I don't know. What else am I getting for him? Like a first and a two, probably. Yeah.

But I'd rather convert him to a player, though. Yeah, like, you don't have to trade him for a picks, but. The player's Ladd-McConkie range. Yeah, and I'd take Ladd. Ladd in a first. Oh, that seems an interesting deal. I wonder who did that. Yeah, but I would still take Lattonkey range.

lad straight up for Jonathan Taylor like I was just saying I know someone yeah no I know yeah you can you can shut up now I get I'm never trading with you again especially you sat there and whine and complained and cried for four days I don't think I did that that's your that's your that's your that's your bait that's how I know from now on I know I'm gonna get cooked on a trade if you sit there and like think about it and whine and cry and debate and I'm giving up too much value I'm up. No, I think it's just too much foul. Oh, my God. I know I'm going to get made fun of this. Oh, my God.

I'm going to get made fun of this trade so bad. And then I know four months ago. You're like, yeah, I cooked, cooked you. I cooked you. I knew it the whole time. If you cooked me, I wouldn't say shit. Exactly. So that's how I know now. I know the meter buck. If you if you hum and how about it too much,

I know not to do it. That means I'm getting roasted. Besides the point, we'll talk about, turns out we need to talk about Taylor next week is I gotta tell you he's not I don't think he's gonna do too good against Detroit this week put it to you that way all right back on track we're back on track back on track back on track this podcast still shouldn't go an hour and a half we're gonna try not to uh T Higgins is another player much like George Pickens I'm just buying I'm just buying I'm buying so heavily I will say though like the best case scenario he ends up back on Cincinnati I hope so I get

get people want him to go to other teams yeah New England would be fun cool dope his value probably spikes if he goes to new england honestly and his points get worse but his points would probably get worse i agree but i'm just paying the iron price for t higgins kind of no matter what he's been unreal in six games and a almost 12 yard a dot nearly 40 percent air yard share a 26.5 percent target share 27 percent targets per row run these are all upper tier numbers 38 point one percent first read 18.5 points per game wide receiver six and points per game with a minimum of six games this is what we wanted this is he's he's just immediately and yes he's going to miss some time i get it it's football players get hurt t higgins is that guy he's young he's not an old wide receiver

at all feels like it because he feels like he's been in the league already for six years yeah 25 old. He's 25. We're talking about a 25 year old putting up 18.5 points for game. That's Dan Nair. The Nico Collins obsessed breakout numbers. You just got it with T. Higgins for cheaper. He was a buy for us

during the draft season. Been a buy for us. Well, since you and I have been talking, the joke has always been like, oh, I need to get this guy off my team. And the second you just see him do warmth, you're like, I got to buy more T. But it's smart to stand for

this kind of player and he seems to be relatively acquireable at some pretty reasonable prices T. Higgins are a 25 first we know we're taking T. Higgins there so easy even if it's early even if it's on the early side like if it's I don't even care just I would trade Tyree kill for him straight up me too but let's which sounds crazy to say but let's talk about a deal that's kind of shaped out like that we got two Tyree kill trades uh to talk about uh oddly enough they both involved Derek Henry.

So T. Higgins, a 25 second, a 25 third, and a 26 second, or Derek Henry and Tyree Kill. I want the T. Higgins side. Me too. Like, 100% I want the T. Higgins side. And that seems crazy. It seems insane to say that because any week, Tyree Kill, you know, 200 yards, and we know that. It's not like a secret that, yeah, he's had kind of a down year. But I don't know if you see him.

he runs just fine so I don't think that speed is going anywhere anytime soon so it sounds crazy to say but I also want that side the other trade is actually damn near identical so we're not going to go with that one

we've got here's another one Tyree Kill and Derek Henry or T. Higgins, Cedric Tillman a fourth, a third and a second Higgins side easily I wouldn't even think twice about that I wouldn't have to

to blink more than once before I press that. Like I would be elated to get that kind of trade. We got T. Higgins or Jalen Waddle, Tucker Craft and Dontavian Wicks. I don't speak of the player on the other side of the Higgins deal. I won Higgins. Right. Agreed. I'm taking T. Higgins there again. I just, I would not blink too heavily. Bucky in a two for T.

It's exactly the same deal as George Pickens. We're taking T. Higgins. Wide receiver 22 Q-Trade cut for T. Higgins right now. Insane. Buy. Just buy aggressively. Is it going to cost you a little bit more?

Like for me, when it gets the two-first, I'm probably out. Okay? Like, I'm probably two-first is a lot. But like, can you get two-first adjacent? Yeah. Hell yeah. Send some players. He's eight wide receiver spots below J-S.

Give me him straight up for J-Sone. Where's J-S-N actually right now? Because I think I predicted an over-correction. He was. I said he was just wider Cerv 14, but that was from like an hour ago. He is wider CER 14, yeah. Whyder Cervor 14 versus Widercerver 22. So it's way to say,

so Jason's already moved up. He was wide receiver 20. So I said on Twitter, at the end of that game, he was going to, again, be right back up with wide receiver 14. This is just what we do with him. Yeah.

So, I mean, I prefer him straight up. I prefer TIG and straight up to JSN. So if you can just get a second or something back, I would do that. Agreed. Okay. Let's,

yeah. So at this point, I'm just buying T. Higgins. I'm just going to go out and I'm going to buy him. T. Higgins for Jane Reed. Give me T. Higgins. Tomaris Williams, Higgins, my goat. Oh, my God.

We've got T. Higgins in a second or Rome, Madunese. Just get T. Higgins. I'm getting the second with Higgins. Why? Yeah. Why? I don't know.

That's what I'm saying. Like, just give me T. Higgins. Like, go and buy. Buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. Buy it is cost. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. easy now NSing

um jeez louise i can't believe we're dropping an n sync here but yeah i'm i'm buying it all costs and it sounds kind of like well obviously i don't know if it is obvious judging by these prices he should be valued at a two first two and a half first price with his production his age right we know he's not going back to cincinnati because that

team is cheap as hell but that is best case scenario but i don't see if he goes to somewhere like no english he's just good. Now, is he going to be 18 to 19 points for game good? Maybe not. No. They, like him and Chase compliment each other so well. Obviously, Chase is the coverage dictator, obviously,

but we see the we see the splits with both. Like, we know, we know Higgins without Chase, he's worse. We know Chase about Higgins is worse. And they're the best when they're together. Yeah. So, I would like him back. If a team is investing, you know, it's one of those things where you expect him to use

them. I don't think he's going to lose value on another team unless it's like some weird ass team like if it's Carolina just kill me but like I'm willing to take that risk so I am just buying please don't go to Pittsburgh please no shot no shot all right let's talk about Joanne Jennings I feel like we should talk about Joanne Jennings before we move on here let's do it I want to buy Juan but I am not buying juan thinking that next year he's just going to continue this role. I think he's a rental by what say you. I agree completely.

I think we need to be super careful with Chuan Jennings and Dynasty. I don't think he has much value. I think he is a league winning player for the rest of the season though. Like, I really do. I think he's an actual difference maker, not just a dude you throw in for 12 points. I think he's an actual difference maker, but you got to look at the situation. You got to look at his coach. You got to look at the scheme.

And we got to know that it has proved to be fraudulent at times. and players that aren't very good could look very good. Look at Dante Pettus. Remember when he was actually like had value? So I'm not saying Juan Jennings is Dante Pettis. I think Juan Jennings is made pretty damn good

and he's obviously gotten better. But I don't want to buy him like he said. I don't want to buy him thinking that he's like an actual asset. So I want to pay a second, around a second, but probably trying to pay a second without giving up a second. Can I give up Wondell Robinson and DiMario Douglas? can I do deals like that?

Yeah, I agree. I'm not giving anything substantial for him. I do see a couple 27 firsts. I think you're, I think you're, if you're moving legitimate assets for somebody like Jennings, I think you've missed the plot. Me too.

In my opinion, I think a second is kind of where I feel comfortable. In terms of second adjacent, right, you can get like a, I see a John Mechie and a Tajay Spears. That's kind of like a weird arrangement for a player like him,

I've seen like Dalton Kincaid for Jennings in a 26-2. You've got another tight end. I'm actually pretty okay with that, even though that sounds blasphemous. You got like Amari Cooper in a 26-second for Jennings. You can do stuff like that. Players like Romeo Dobbs that are like fake value type players, Jacoby Myers and Joanne Jennings,

I think is, you know, I think I'd rather have Jennings there than Myers, even though Myers is pretty good. But I'd probably take whatever side gives me, you know, the extra piece. on that one

What about Devante Adams I think if you can If you get the extra piece On top of a Devante Adams Like a real piece or a three Like a real piece Like Devante Adams has been

Not what we hoped for But like his price is still pretty Pretty I thought it was pretty up there Like Remunders Stevenson and Adams Adams in a two Adams in a two damn a lot of these are atoms in a second so i guess that's actually pretty on par i would take jennings

straight up in dynasty over adams i think you got chase brown and devante adams i'd take chase brown me too yeah you're right devante adams looks like the dude looks super washed like i'm sorry i don't like i don't know i don't have all the numbers in front of me but the whole is the whole thing i can go on about the jess forever because they're there's absolute dumpster fire they're a joke and the whole point of getting him was so they'll be on the same page like they're on the same page know each other we watch i'm watching i watch every jess game every snap of it unfortunately adams is running the wrong route half the time rogers is throwing the ball over here he's he's dropping he had he had against the cardinals like five drops 13 targets he turned him into 31 yards

we don't know what's happening with rogers we don't even know what's happening with adams because he has like he's under contract but he's also not they haven't out they have to like they would pretty much have to restructure and give them like the last dance season with him and rogers but now the rogers thing is going so poorly does rogers even come back to the Jets. Just like, who knows? I'm just kind of just done with Adams. If you can sell him some,

I think the dude's kind of cooked right now. And maybe I'll look dumb, but it hasn't looked great. He looks way worse. You're right. I said he would be the perfect third or fourth wide receiver on your roster this year. The targets dictate.

Yeah. But everything else that he needs to do with the targets have said, no. Exactly. And he's earning targets, right? He's earning targets. But is he earning targets because his quarterback is Aaron Rogers? Is he earning targets?

because he's getting open because I don't see like he doesn't have much space when he's getting the ball thrown to him and if he is he's dropping that shit like he dropped like I said five passes two weeks ago so yeah I think I really think it's just like Rogers is just has to decide like he knows he has to feed on the ball because they overpaid for him and they did all that so yeah I'm kind of I'm cool on him Joanne Jennings, that's a trade that like we talked about again, probably would get like smash accepted off a face value. Like if you have Joanne Jennings, like, damn, I just got sent to Bonte Adams to John Jennings. Like, I got him with the wire. So I think maybe you can't even guess on them. Agreed. Agreed. I'm buying Joanne, but I just feel like we need to have the warning sign put up.

We need to be realistic with him. Right. Agreed. He's a just type of player. I can see someone falling in love with. Use him to package up. You only get somebody else. else that is really dynasty relevant perhaps.

Two players that I think we need to really talk about. I know you have Jaden Reed on here. I don't know if we're going to get to them at all. But I do want to talk about Bo Nix and I want to talk about JSN. So we're going to take another break and we come back. We're going to hit those two players and probably get out of here for this week. But maybe you never know. Sometimes you get a random.

Little bit extra. So sit tight. We'll be right back with the next one. All right. We have to talk about Jason because every time this dude has a game, the comment section gets filled up with he's elite. And this last weekend, when we had this discussion on Twitter with the user, the listener, we love you.

Appreciate you listening. I said that his role didn't change. And I was asked if I had that information already. and I said no, but now we do. This is just an observation I had when watching this game. And it turned out the observation was correct. Because Ryan Heath did not believe me either. But his A dot on first three targets from weeks one through seven was 10.

Weeks eight through nine without Metcalf was 6.9. And in week 11, it was 7.3. His role did not change in terms of being the underneath merchant. In the second half, when it looked like, his points blew up for that game buck. His A dot on first reads was 5.8. His designated usage was still underneath. Right now, the only time that has not been the case

is when D.K. Metcalf was out. That's two games. We've had without DK that I believe it's two games where he has been very good. Now, you have, yeah, 16.9. two games both games downfield look good you have here he's third in the leagues when targets when trailing in the fourth quarter with 24 he's third in receptions with 16 and he is the fifth most fantasy points when trailing uh in the fourth quarter he is and i believe he had five of his

11 targets last week we're inside of two minutes the last drive yeah crazy so we we know what his role is right he's underneath granted, I'll hand him his flowers in terms of when Gino was scrambling around and he was looking for somebody to create, his target was JSN. That is a good thing. That is a good sign.

You want that, you want that trust. That's not clearly how they want to use him. He's still underneath. His path to elite upside is still without DK and in that role. Now, I will say this. I would like to buy JSN where it is possible because I think he is actually overtaken Tyler Lockett.

I think there's an opportunity for this role to grow. But at the same time, he had 10 receptions on 11 targets, a lot of it was underneath, a lot of it was in two-minute drill, hurry up, comeback mode. It was a plus matchup versus San Francisco. And we've already seen his value jump again

from around 20-ish from what I remember back up to wide receiver 14. This is exactly what happened in week two and this is exactly what happened with the DK Metcalfe being out games. We just do the same thing. Now we'll see what happens with Noah Fant because he has the big game.

He has the buy week and he comes out he gets all the targets again. Great. We're going to see what happens with Noah Fant see if that affects his work in that hurry up, that two minute, the stuff underneath how does the target distribution go a little bit

be interested to see if this is real I'm more inclined to believe that there is a changing of the guard with JSN in terms of he is definitely the second wide receiver he is definitely the underneath guy like Lockett is definitely taking the back seat I believe that now like I've seen it now enough

I'm good that's a plus sign but the path to elite upside still resides with Metcalfe being out because obviously 11 target 10 reception games are not the norm. One of those was a screen pass. That's how important this underneath hurry up

stuff was. One of these were a screen pass. So that's still where he lives. There's obviously upside and plays like that. He was very close to scoring. He was brought down at like the five. So he has some opportunity

that there's good games. I'm buying, but I think his price is reflect in what he did. I don't think there's ever an actual change in his price when JSN has a good game, or a great game even, because his price is just his price. Yeah, I think he's going to kind of settle here

around where he's at. I don't, me obviously doesn't really have any place to go up, and I don't think he'll go back down. I think he'll stay around Widerster 14 to 17. I'm not buying. I'm out. I think I would definitely be considered buying, like not at some of these prices, though, right?

Like, from today, again, we've seen the big climb, Drake London or Gino and Jackson Smith and Jigba. Drake London. I'm taking Drake London. We've got JSN or Rishi Rice and a 252. I'll take Rishie Rice, the actual, another actual good player last two times. Right? We got Sam Leporta or JSN.

I'd take JSM. Agreed, big time. If I could do that deal, I would do that. JSN or Tyreek? JSN, I think. That's what I'm saying. So he's still, he's still someone I would buy. Like, don't get me wrong.

We got Michael Pennix or JSM, which is a super weird trade. That's ass. That's, uh, JSM. Got Alvin Camara and George Kittle or JSN in a 252. Uh, JISN on the two. So he's, there are situations, obviously where I would acquire. I got Jerry Judy, JSN, or Rishi, cousins, and Godwin. The Rishie said.

See, I'm taking JSN. I'm okay moving Rishi for JSN. Like, I'm actually okay with that. Me too. Ginger plus suspension. I'm not going to like fight myself on that decision. I can see a world where JSN, you know, is a 14 to 16 point per game player. That path exists.

I don't think it's as likely, but I think that path exists. I agree. I'm lower on like Rashid's talent anyway, like as opposed to I think a lot of the market. So here's the other here's the other scenario, which I kind of think would be absolutely insane. But we talked about it. There's the Debo to Seattle. battle stuff. Yeah, which was super, like, that was just a really weird, weird thing for

Shepter to post, like early Sunday morning, basically, which maybe there's no validity, but usually, like, that means agents, people are talking, like, there's no reason for him to post that. He did. Definitely something to keep in the back of your mind. Yeah, like, for sure. I did say when talking with, uh, who was I talking with this too? Was this Ryan Heath where I said, like, something could happen and they could bring in

another veteran receiver or draft one. They go, I don't think that's likely. I don't think it's likely either. But if they do, it's just going to cause more confusion. And it's just going to be more annoying. But with that being said, I'm willing to buy. I am buying first and a second might be rich. Like, I don't think he's worth the George Pickens price.

If you do and that hits, amazing. I'm cautiously buying. I'll say that. Yeah, I'm not. It's funny. I would check in, though. I'm cautiously buying now. JSN is like a player that like people that have him love him I mean we have a dude that literally is in our mentions every single week this you catches a pass like every time like every single frigging time after the game like right after that shit ends we have five notifications on Twitter from him and like people love him that happen I had him all year in a league and I finally traded him I was willing I actually almost took two seconds for him you did I almost talked about that for a long time I almost took two seconds for him and I decided like no I'll just hold and and I was willing and

And I was willing to take any first, he'd send me any first for him. And no one ever sent that. And now people won him again. But I had him for, I sent him last week. I sold him. So I've got a couple.

I've got a couple because he was cheap in the draft. He was very cheap in the drafts that I got him in, 108, 107 type prices. I'm good with that. Again, I'm cautiously buying. But again,

we do do this. Like, if he goes another couple weeks where he gets, you know, eight points to 11, even 12 points. It's like, there's your upside.

So I'm cautiously optimistic that we've seen a shift in his usage. We clearly have not seen a shift in his role, which I think is the important part. We obviously know big upside is there, 37 point game. Awesome. He's got two other 20 point games. That's awesome. The rest of it is a bunch of 13s, 12s, you know, and those are okay as well. he's clearly an upside type player

that's a little volume dependent on his role well i just described 20 other wider states jaden reed right is to me is the same range of outcomes as a jaden reed type just in a different way jaden reeds a high a dot you know explosive play guy you can still get there with guys like jsn in the same way i'm buying i'm buying cautiously do we talk jaden reed versus jason

who we'd rather have i'd rather have jason i'd rather have jason i'd rather have jaden there we go there's a nice little contrast there's something to keep in mind they're ranked I think they're ranked like two spots apart from each other on my dynasty rankings and they ones 17 and one's like 16 I probably I probably have json kind of disrespected off to check out to the park you do kind of have json disrespected oh I have json 18 and jaden read 17 I'll have to switch that around I just jacob to myself in terms of on air saying something that wasn't true um

Shadow Jacob, that conversation with Javante Williams is still an absolute highlight of fantasy goodness. Clip that you can go and find. It's awesome. Maybe I'll repost it. It was so funny. J.S.N. is still at 1.7.3 yards for route run. Yeah, because again, it's underneath. Like, I know.

So it's like, man, I don't know if he's talented or not. Like, I don't know if he's, his role is not. I think he's talented. I don't know. He's definitely not as good he's supposed to be. I'll say that. But when, it's when D.K. is out. he gets used that way.

That's the problem is they still value DK. Like, if DK were to, for any reason, ever actually get traded and not be on Seattle, JSN's value goes through the ceiling. Until they just add someone else to take over DK. Like, they're not, like, maybe, maybe. Like, that's obviously possible. I am just saying his value would spike 2X. And Gino's 35 and like, I know, I'm aware.

But I'm aware. It's just that was advocacy. There's exactly. There's risk. there's risk involved i'm again i'm buying but i'm cautiously buying i'm not blind buying but i'm checking in i agree i'm checking in because if it's if it's like bucky irving ben sonott in a 252 or json i'll just take jason there yeah i may so so like those are some of the trades that have happened over the last week and a half for json a lot of those are from today or yesterday

so it's after the games obviously none of these none of those trades were before the games on sunday So it's after the game. So there's a market to go and acquire. It's just tough, man. It's tough to know. But I think now we know what he is. Now again, if he comes out this week and Noah Fant is playing and he still is that underneath must go to two minute merchant. All right.

We know it is. We know for sure what his role is now at that point. Is there any reason, I'm sorry again, is there any reason to take him over Chris Oliva outside of the concussion stuff? Uh, I would just simply because he's, he's younger, right? I think, I think there's reason. Um, this, Chris Olivae is a guy that was a borderline, uh, nesting doll type wide receiver for me. And he was getting outproduced by Rashid shehid when they were both healthy. So I don't know. I think Chris Alavi is an is an odd case right now. Definitely. So I'm, I would be willing to move a Chris Alave for JSN if I, could somewhere. Yeah, I think that's fine. I think that's a realistic like type range. Yeah, I'm okay with that. So even I just had to point out this J.S. anything too, because a lot of people think I have this like I hate him. I don't. I'm actually the highest on him on the dynasty points crew. I said he would finish top 12 in the

consensus sites. And he's close again at 14. We just needed like one more game like this. And he might get there by the end of the year. I was the highest on him. I just, there's cautious optimist, cautious optimism by, uh, with someone like JSN. So again, buying, I'm checking in. There's avenues to go and acquire obviously by this exercise. It's not a direct one to one reflection of leagues. And you're right. The people that do have him love him.

But it's kind of a lot of the same James and Williams type fandom in my opinion. But again, Reid fandom. Jane Reed fandom. There is an avenue where JSN becomes more relevant and breaks away from this 10-11-point conundrum that he's in consistently. We'll see. But two positive games in a row with two very different outlier-ish-type situations involved.

So something to keep an eye on. Just something to keep an eye on. I am buying, but I'm not like putting myself. at a negative to buy. One last player before we get out of here. Bo Nix. I want to talk about Bo Nix. I believe in Bo Nix.

I very much believe in Bo Nix. I believed in Bo Nix at his price. I mean, he was the easiest 201, 201, 202, even 112 click in Superflex rookie drafts. This is why I'm buying. Obviously, the price is going to go all over the place. But this is kind of why I want to convince you to buy. With Sean Payton is quarterback.

This is via Scott Barrett. Taysam Hill was 20.5 fantasy points per start at quarterback. A watch Drew Breeze at age 39 to 41 was 19.8. Bow Nicks rookie season with a 6'7 rookie scatback wide receiver, the ghost of Marvin Mims and dusty-ass Cortland Sutton. 18. He is dusty. Russell Wilson last year, 18.

Trevor Simeon, 18 points. Winston, 17.2. Bridgewater, 17.1. For perspective, Nix currently ranks his fantasies, QB 10 by fantasy points per game, even Teddy Bridgewater,

average more fantasy points per game than the current QB 14, Patrick Mahomes, 16.9 fantasy points per game per Scott Barrett. That boy, nice. And you might be thinking, yeah, but Tom,

where does he stack up with the other rookie quarterbacks? Don't worry, I got you. Bo Nix has thrown the most touchdown passes of the rookie. quarterback this season. Bo Nix is not even scrambling at the rate as some of the other quarterbacks. He's only as 231 scramble yards. Drake may already has more at 261. Caleb has more

235 and Jane Daniels has 344 but Bo Nix has two scramble touchdowns. So this dude is on the move. He throws the ball deep. He has 45 deep throws on the year. Only Caleb is close in that regard with 44. I like a quarterback that can drop back there and decide, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to yeat the football. I like that aggressiveness with my quarterback's catchable throw rate. Now, catchable percentage, Jaden Daniel, 77.9, obviously not as many deep throws. Drake May, 76.2, not as many deep throws.

So that is going to hurt. But a 74.5% is significantly better than Caleb Williams. His off throw rate is second high. So he's a little inaccurate But again, this to me Has a lot to do with the deep ball stuff You're obviously not going to be a completion merchant If you are throwing a ton of deep balls

Now he does have some ugly misses I did see on Twitter With the New Orleans Saints game When he threw the ball In between two Denver players Somebody on Twitter said It looked like Bonex was trying to throw to Demerius Thomas That is hell of disrespectful

I'm like hell of hilarious That is super funny That was a great tweet. Very disrespectful, but funny. There are really bad accuracy issues sometimes. His mechanics, if you listen to Brett Whitefield talk about it. The mechanics are he constantly wants to throw off platform. All right, there are some red flags, I'll admit.

But he's still the cheapest to acquire for the most part of these rookie quarterbacks not named Michael Penix. I mean, he should be, though. And sure. We're talking about an 18 plus point per game rookie season. season. Caleb Williams is giving you 14.4. He's a he's still a buy to me. I'm okay buying him in dynasty because I don't think Sean Payton's going anywhere and this offense can really only get better, right? Yeah. I'm buying into Bo Nix. If you're not, I, I might ask you to check your your take lock at the door. I mean, I liked Bo Nix coming out. I think it's funny how we

switch because everyone like after that, you know, St. Scan and everything is, well, Bo Nix is awful. He's terrible. He's the worst. And now they're back to thinking he's good. He's still, I mean, he's pretty rough. He scores a lot of fantasy points. I'm interested in buying him, but I don't want to probably pay the price. I mean, I think he's going to be at this

point in the fourth round of a startup. I'd rather just take the position player there, but he is also older. He is supposed to have a command of an offense. That's the whole point. I think he's been really impressive, especially over the last couple weeks, though. I'm probably, like, not really buying. I'm happy where I got him, though. I'm buying.

Bo Nix or Cooper Cup and Cole commit? Nix. Easily. What was the, oh my gosh, I had it and I just lost it. This one will test you. Bo Nix and Roma Dunesay or Dalton Kincaid and Justin Herbert? Herbert. It's close, but I would lean Herbert there.

It is close, though. It's very close. You get Roma Dunezay. If he breaks out at all, that trade looks pretty good. Dak Prescott and a 253rd or Bo Nix. You know, this is actually kind of tough considering the fact that Bo Nix is pretty much giving you what Dac is giving you and he's eight years younger. I'll take Dack though. I'll take Bo Nix.

But like Dax's mobility was already limited. Now we've got a hamstring torn off the bone. I'm good. 31 years old, 32 years old was already disappointing this year. I'll take Bo Nix in that case. Even if he comes back down to a 15 to 16 point per game, I still think you're living pretty good. Bo Nix or Keon Coleman in a 25 second. the quarterback.

I'm taking Bo Nix. I agree. Bo Nix, a 25 second to a 27 second? Or Anthony Richardson and Evan Ingram? I was actually going to ask you Richardson versus Bo Nix. I don't really think I should be adding seconds to get to Richardson,

so I would take the other side. Agreed. I think they're even. And that's kind of where I'm at with Bo Nix in terms of price. I'll see where I have them ranked right now. I have Bo Nix ranked at 17 and I could make an argument

that he should be above everyone up to QB 13 I can make an argument above Brock Purdy Anthony Richardson, J.J. McCarthy and Baker Mayfield. In fact, I might have to switch him and even J.J. McCarthy at this point. Where do I have him?

Buck, you currently have Bo Nix probably disrespected at QB21. He is disrespectful. He is behind Tua behind Gough and Lauren. Lawrence, disrespected. No, I would rather have Lawrence. I would rather have Bo Nix.

I would rather have Lawrence. When has Trevor Lawrence given you close to this fantasy production consistently? Never. The answer is literally never. Hey, they're the same age. I don't care. Once all, they're the same age and Trevor Lawrence has like a three or four year head start. And Bo Nex has already outproduced him.

So I'm done. I'm done with Trevor Lawrence. I'm done. I'm sick watching him throw poor fade routes for, for interceptions at the end of games. I am done. I'm sorry. I can't do Trevor Lawrence.

I can't. Year five breakout next season. Year five break out. Enough, dude. Trevor Lawrence people have got to stop. They've just got to stop. Bo Nix or Jalen Waddle in a 27 first. Oh man.

Not the, not the player to not be named. Yeah. I want the, I want 17 on the dolphins. Oh, okay. No, I'll take Bo Nix. there.

It's a very rare chance I'm trading a 27 first, but I'll take Bonix. I think Boenix is still the starter in 27. I think he's still putting up 16, 18 points per game. That's an expensive Bo Nex, though, like for real. That is that cost Bo Nix, which I don't love doing. This one, this one I think is kind of ass,

but I think it's kind of interesting. George Pickens and Bo Nix or Beijon and Jacoby Myers. You did the ore instead of the... You keep messing up with a trade, say it one more time. George Pickens and... and Bo Nix or Jacobi Myers and Bejohn Robinson and for the record

I have been saying or all day and you just noticed it now so I think it was more the Bejohn thing and then you started thinking about it and your brain started calculating and then something didn't compute and you're like it must have been what Tom said

not the players involved okay so it's Bejon it's Bejon for Knicks and Pickens and Jacob meyers yeah i i didn't say him on purpose it's be be jean jacobi's a zero at least in in the context of this deal he's a he's a zero so it's i don't know i won't be john you'd be john i think it's interesting i think there's something to be said for the other side i think there are there are team builds where i feel like the other side could no that's that's a banger that's a good and then

we got bo necks and two thirds or lad mcconkey in two seconds oh mcconkey in the twos leady and the two is for sure. Lididi. Always a new nickname with Buck. I think that one's interesting for me. I think that one is, that one's going to be close to. I think I want Ladd there as well.

But I'm buying Bo Nix. I'm believing in this. I don't think this is like a one-year wonder type situation. I'm believing in this. I just think he's, even if he's not good, I think that his numbers reflect his environment pretty well with an opportunity to get better.

And he's definitely locked in. He's locked in for sure. He's definitely locked in. All right. Those are, I don't think, how many, how many players do we give there?

One, two, three, four, five, I think we did six, six players that I think he should be buying some deals that go with it.

So good luck. I think, I think those are some pretty good deals. Let's do our savant play of the week. I don't really have one. You have one. What's your savant play of the week? My Savant play is tight end for the New York Giants, Theo Johnson.

Since weeks 8 to 10, he has ran 73.3% of the routes with a 20% air yard share, 18% targets per route run, 10.5A dot, 18.4 first read. He's 9.4 fantasy points per game with a 14.9% target share. That's from weeks 8 to 10. Pre-week 8, he's always been running all the routes and playing the snaps, but he was at an 8.4A dot and a 4.2 fantasy points per game with only 7.7.7. 2% target share, so it's doubled since. That coincides with Wondell Robinson pretty much getting phased out of the offense.

Weeks 1 to 7, Wondell Robinson, a 24.7% target share. After week 8, he's at 16.8, and that's coincides with Theo Johnson's target share basically doubling. Seems like they're going away from the pop gun slot receiver Wondell role. And seeing what they have in Theo Johnson, who's an Uber athletic rookie tight end from Penn State. Now he has a new quarterback, so maybe more targets will actually be catchable. And I think he's really interesting,

at least for the rest of the season. With this new role change, and he's earning, he seems like he's finding his way a little bit, earning more targets. I like it. I obviously love buying cheap tight ends. We did with Jatavian Sanders.

We're going to try to do it again with Theo Johnson. My big takeaway for the savant play is to just not get caught up in the trade deadline. Stick to your values. Understand the nuance of trying to win a championship. Do not get sucked into the, I need to win right now. I need it, I need it.

Do not get, don't get Jedi mind tricked, right? Do not let somebody try to convince you, you need something. It's okay to pay a little bit more and pay up a little bit to get some players. that's totally fine. But please do not get caught up in the trade deadline stuff. That's my savant play.

Just being an aware fantasy manager. That's going to be my savant play. So it's a little bit of a cop out. It's a little bit odd. There it is. That's going to do it. That's the week 12, Dynasty Points Market Report. Back next week with a fun Thanksgiving episode with Iowa Mike.

I can't wait. Buck, this was fun. We'll talk more. I can't wait for the next episode. Sit tight, everybody. Again, if you're listening to this on Sunday and you're like, man, I wish you could have got this sooner. You can on Fridays.

We put this out earlier on Fridays, but that is again on the Dynasty Points podcast feed individually. So you're going to be tapped into that. Get your information a little bit over. We'll see you guys in the Discord, but you can get at FantasyPoint.com. And until next time, remember that clear eyes, full heart. and never lose your best days, they're always spent tilting. Good night, everybody.