Fantasy Football Daily - Aaron Rodgers News + Redrafting The 2024 Draft Class | NFL First Read

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

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This is a film and analytics podcast powered by the Fantasy Points Data Speed. They're a lot promoted, so let's get after it. Joe Marino, my friend, we are here. How do you feel about that mock draft we just did? It was pretty good, right? I enjoyed it. I thought it was a good primer for draft season. Had some unique players falling, a big shakeup at number.

one. I mean, fun was had, fun was had, you know. If you guys missed last episode, it's a, it's a must listen. It made, it made some waves on the, the socials because of, uh, what I did at pick number one overall. We won't spoil it now. Go listen. Um, but I was told worst mock ever. The DMs were lit that day. Yeah, it's how you know what's good. So I figured we run a back today. And we won't necessarily do another mock draft, but we're going to redraft the 2224 draft. It's draft season. And so why not? You know, we've been saving this one. We've, we talked about doing it in season,

but we ended up just going draft season, full draft season. So we're going to, we're going to do it, Joe. Redrafting the draft that just happened. You know, this is going to be good because it's going to roughly even more feathers. There's going to, because you know how this is, man. When your team gets a player, it's your, it's your player now, right? You got the optimism that this is going to be an answer for your team. And I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of, a lot of teams that don't get the player that

their team drafted. So that'll be fun to, uh, to get into today. And, um, we're going to kind of collaborate on some things. So that should be fun. Heck yeah. Before we do that, though, we should hit some NFL news. Joe, the Jets have decided they're moving on from Aaron Rogers. I love it. I like Aaron Glenn just kind of putting his foot down right away. Like, hey, I'm building this culture the way I want. Can't have you around to do that. So let's just rip the bandaid off. Let's move forward, man. I love it. What do you think? I love it for the Jets, because I think that's necessary. If you're Aaron Glenn, come in. It's a fresh opportunity. Do your thing. You don't need to try to make the Aaron Rogers thing work. That's not what you're here to do.

You're trying to take this team to the next chapter of Jets football. And hopefully it's a lot better than the several chapters that they've just closed. But where I go with this conversation is, I think there's more landing spots for Aaron Rogers to play next year, then maybe meets the eye. Pittsburgh, Vegas, the Giants. These are probably going to be teams that won't find a better option than that that kind of need to win. Some of those at least, maybe even Tennessee. I think there's going to be more suitors for Aaron Rogers than maybe we think just without kind of really taking a look. I think there's going to be some spots here. I don't necessarily disagree with that.

What about Cleveland? You didn't mention Cleveland. They got to be in the mix, right? Cleveland is Kirk Cousins next team. So, yeah. Well, the problem with Cleveland is there not having any money, right? They're up against it in a big way. They're rolling over all the caps space in the world and they're still $30 million

dollars over the cap. They don't have a lot of levers they can pull. They're going to have to really shed salary to make anything happen. I think that they, what they need is a very low cost option at quarterback, which is what Kirk Cousins is going to bring because of the same. thing that happened with Russell Wilson where there's so much of his contract already already being paid by another team. Like, you know, you're going to have to pay a minimum type deal for your quarterback. I think that's Cleveland's best path. I don't think they can

hand out the money for Aaron Rogers. Not that I think Aaron Rogers demands a huge contract, but it's more than what I think Cleveland can handle. Yeah, so that's implying that you think Rogers gets traded then and not cut? Because they could, in theory, do the same thing with Rogers, although he doesn't have that giant guaranteed money looming over him like Kirk does, where maybe he gets cut and is still able to sign another deal somewhere because it's not like, I don't think cutting him is as damaging. Yeah, I think that's probably where it goes. I don't know that there's teams that are going to be eager to give up much for Aaron Rogers.

But if they can sign him, I think that probably makes the most sense. But do you have like a Rogers next team spot that you actually like or is it kind of the same mix of teams that I am? It's the same mix of teams. What's really interesting too is like all of those teams are. are in theory in range to draft the quarterback. And so, like, if you're the Tennessee Titans, like, why, why do Aaron Rogers? Like, you could make the argument, hey, we're going to draft the guy and bring in Aaron Rogers, but it's like, you need so much.

I don't know. Maybe that's why. Maybe you need so much. It's like, well, we'll continue to build the roster up while we have a stable quarterback. But I just can't imagine Rogers wants to go to a team like Tennessee. But, and then like Vegas and the Jets, the Giants, all these teams. teams. Well, I just said the judge. He's coming from the Jets, but all these teams are right in that range. And, you know, I know the community is down on this quarterback class. I like it.

I don't think they have a top elite prospect that quarterback, but there's three guys I really like. We went over that on the last show here. I don't know, man. I have a hard. There are plenty of options, but it's a hard. It's like, I can't see any of them clearly if that makes sense. Yeah, I understand that. I mean, certainly you would, if you knew that those young quarterbacks were going to be the thing, you would certainly pick them. You know, and I don't know that there's a universal love out there for these guys. And I think what's important for a team like Tennessee, especially, is this is year two for Brian Callahan. Obviously, they've been goofy with the general manager stuff. But they got to win, dude. Like at some point, you got to be able to go out there and win some

games and get some buy-in, right, from your locker room or else, you know, it's going to be tough. It's be tough for Brian Callahan if he has another, you know, three, four, five win season, something like that to get buying in from the guys that you're the, you're the dude that's going to unlock their career and get this team to a point where they can win. And so I think potentially this helps. It helps with the risk associated with inserting a rookie quarterback into the lineup. What about you're the Giants, man. You got to, you got to do it this year. You got to do it. You're going to bring in Cam Lord as the, as the guy. to help you do it or do you go with an Aaron Rogers and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle there.

I think, I mean, that's kind of where I go with the Steelers. They're definitely not in range to get one of these quarterbacks. Like they feel very logical, but do you really want to do this again? You want to go after you sign up for the Russell Wilson and that I guess it works, but also doesn't work at the same time. Like, I think there's complicating factors with all of it. But point being, as I think there's more options than what might meet the eye. Yeah, I guess I have comments on all those.

So like Tennessee, I think you're right there. Like they do need to start winning to get buy in. So maybe raising the floor of the team with a guy like Rogers. And the way they spent last year. Yeah, true. It is kind of a veteran roster, which is weird to say because they just took over the team. So I could see that. You got to raise the floor a little bit.

It also helps you evaluate the guys you do have, right? It's hard to get real evaluations on guys when you're losing and when there's just not stable quarterback, especially the skill player positions. It's like really, really difficult. And then with the with the giants, that actually, when you said that, that makes a lot of sense. And if I'm ownership, I've talked about this. I don't love the idea of letting this regime draft the quarterback with the reality that we're probably looking for a new staff next year anyways. So it's like, hey, Rogers might be your best chance to go win some games now and save your jobs.

And then you're not spoiling a kind of a rookie contract situation. Yeah, I like that. And I think what's valuable for Aaron Rogers next team is that, that there's no high expectation that this is your franchise saviour. I thought that's what the Jets, a team that's been in the dumps needed to get a guy and they can't in the keys, man. That ain't going to happen again. I think everyone's a little bit more understanding of where everyone's at in their

life cycle as a team as Aaron's life cycle as a player. I think that's going to create a better opportunity for it to work. Do you think Devante's a package deal with wherever Rogers goes? I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't know. I would, that's going to be a no. If you're a team that wants Devante Adams, yes. But you're not signing up for anything from Aaron Rogers other than be our starting quarterback.

You know where Rogers should go or I mean, Devante should go next year? Where? Green Bay. I'm serious. They need a, they need a number one wide receiver. They don't have one. Josh Jacobs agrees with you. As much as they've done a good job of like

building this wide receiver by committee and getting late round value on some guys and mid round value, that's great and everything, but you still need the one. None of those guys have developed to be the true number one that you were hoping for. Watson mostly because he's constantly dealing with injuries. Obviously he's going to be,

might not play at all next year. And then Jaden Reed just, he can't really shake that slot gadget moniker, even with his own coach. That's like he refuses to use him. a different way, right? And then Romeo Dobbs is what he is. And then Wix is what he is. So I feel like they need a one. Go go back to Green Bay, DeVante. I think they'd be great for it. How do you reconcile all the messaging that we got out of Green Bay? Jordan loves saying, I love not

having a number one receiver. I like having all these different guys that spread the football around too. Was it more circumstantial than actually like a receiver talent problem where, you know, Jane Reed didn't take the next step. Watson's hurt like he always is. Maybe Dobbs and in Wicks are more like just fourth guys to begin with. Bull Melton's like a bottom of the barrel type option. And the reality is like you had all of that plus Jordan Love didn't play as well. Is it because of the lack of a number one receiver or were these like more circumstantial issues or is that a consequence of, hey, if you don't have a number one and

all these other things don't work together, well, then your offense isn't going to do what you want it to be. What you just said. And I think would anytime players say stuff like that, it's it's somewhat copium in a way. it's like, oh, my coach and my GM has said we're going to do it this way. So I'm getting on board. I love that I don't have number one. We spread around everyone.

We love everyone. We got a ton of talent here. Yeah, it's just copium is what it is, you know. And I think in a perfect world, if you, if like, if that team had Devante Adams, Romeo Dubs is in a much better situation with his role. Don't tell him that. He wanted to be traded. True.

I don't know. I don't have to tell you on that, but. It's classic wide receiverisms there. They're weirdos, man. Receivers are weirdos. They just are weirdos. All right. Saints hire Kell and Moore, Joe.

How are we feeling about this? I mean, this is, I don't know. Listen, dude, if Kellan Moore's been up for jobs, you know, that's the thing is I think the Saints land in a reasonable place. I was nervous that this was going to be another David Cully, Jim Tom Sula tie fire. Kellyn Moore is a regular candidate. So I think that they did well to get a regular candidate. What I don't appreciate is Mickey Loomis making it because the Eagles kept the winning is that's what's delayed the decision.

No, dude. Let's not pretend like that's true at all. You got told no by a lot of candidates that you really did want. And I'm not buying that. Like there's no acceptance here from the Saints to acknowledge their own situation and how it's not very attractive. So like good job landing on Kellynmore. If Kellynmore got a number of jobs over recent years, nobody would blink an eye. So I think they get at a good spot, but let's not act like

this was like the guy that they were wanting to wait forever to get. I'll agree that it's a regular candidate, but it's a bottom of the barrel regular candidate. And I would say he's even a depreciating asset. Like the hype on Kell and Moore went from about up here and it's slowly been on the down swing, not only as he didn't get jobs, but as his performance seemed to kind of dwindle, whether that was in Dallas or with L.A. or even Philly last year, like Eagles fans are not sad to be losing this guy. That's not they're never,

they weren't sad to lose Gannon. You know, they weren't sad to. I thought they were sad to lose Stuyken. But I agree on Gannon. Gannon they were like, that's addition by subtraction. Stuyken, I think they were a little more hurt by that. But dude, that's a, I don't know. I have no idea if Kellemore's going to be good head coach or not.

I don't think he's the best play caller in the world. But that doesn't really matter because he's going to be the, the CEO of the company now. So he's a lot better than was a. Brian Johnson last year. Oh, God, yeah. A lot better than that guy. We can agree there.

I think Moore has some good qualities as a play designer and play caller. I just, he's just not amazing at it. He's just good. He's just good. He's fine. Would you be more excited if they hired Anthony Weaver? No.

No, I kind of knew all along that the Saints would, would land on a not wow candidate. And ultimately someone, we have no idea about. Like I said, I have no, what, Kellamore might be the best head coach in football. I don't know. We've never seen him in that kind of role. Same with a lot of these first time I had coach guys. I don't know.

Are you more excited about Liam Cohen? If they would have signed Liam Cohen to be their head coach, would that be better for you? It would be. I think so. He's got a much better track record of late. I don't know, Kellemore just coordinated the Super Bowl winning offense.

That underperform by pretty much every metric considering expectations and the talent they had on the field. Best offensive line in football, AJ Brown, Devante Smith, Dallas got her, Sequin Barclay, and they basically underperformed the entire season on offense. Who would have been the Saints caliber coach

that would have been exciting for you? Knowing that they're not getting, like, Rabel's not going there. Aaron Glenn's not going there. So when we did the show, the coaching carousel show, I said Aaron Glenn would be the slam dunk for them. I did not want AG to do that, but because they were in the mix on him

because the Jets. Yeah, but we knew he was going to go to the Jets or the Saints because he's got the ties to both those teams. Right, buddy. I'm sure he had, if, if Aaron Glenn wanted to be the head coach, the Saints, I think he'd be the head coach.

100%. He picked the Jets. Yeah. Well, bro, the Jets hadn't been good in a minute. Terrible. Saints are in a tough spot, dude. They're both on.

They both are, yeah. I feel like the, the Jets, he's going to get a longer runway to make that work. Agreed. I would have picked the Jets too, but I just, I don't know what, what realistic candidate, the Saints were going to get that we'd be sitting here like, man, you know what? I can't believe this guy right there. You know, this is going to really going to work out. That's a good point, Joe. All right. Let's do a redraft, Brett Whitefield. We'll do that here on the other side of it. Folks, be sure to stick with us. Okay, Brett, here it is. Picks one through 32 in, in the form that

they wound up being. I know there were trades along the way. So, whatever spot a team traded into, that's where they'll be picking in this draft. So if you're a Texans, Browns or Bills fans, you can, nothing's happened for you here today. We're going to redo this thing. Well, and awkwardly enough, because we're not changing the order, you had like a team like the Eagles trade up for Quinnion Mitchell. Well, they're still going to be trading up in this draft. We just don't know for who yet.

It won't be for Quinnian Mitchell. I got a good feeling. He's not going to make it to 20. That's true. We're going to make wrong things right. That's what this is all about. Yeah. and and Rolf was some feathers along the way, which probably happens at number one, Brett.

Chicago Bears own the number one pick. They pick Caleb Williams. I don't think you or I are going to sit here and redraft Caleb Williams into that spot. This is going to be Jaden Daniels. 100%. I already wrote it down on the sheet, even though it's your favorite. I think even Bears fans can admit that, right? Probably not, but they should be able to.

There's no Bears fans. I shouldn't say no Bears fans. There's not a lot of Bears fans admitting this. But I will say this for, you know, like this is after year one, go back to the, the Bryce Young, C.J. Shroud deal. Everybody in the world said C.J. Stroud after year one, they should say that after year two, but people are at least warming up. I've had people say to me that maybe Bryce Young is going to be the better quarterback. So like, I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of career to play out here. But Jane Daniels right now is definitely redrafting

number one overall pick. I think the thing that is a scary for if you're a Bears fan, though, is that all of the deficiencies that we talked about with Caleb Williams games manifested themselves very clearly as a rookie. And all of the strengths in Jaden Daniels game also manifested themselves very clear. Like Jay and Daniels had an average time to throw this year at 2, 3, 5. Imagine that on the bear. Like the bears don't even, like fans don't even know what that looks like. Like play with that level of play speed and processing power.

That's, they saw nothing of the sort this year. So I think that's the thing that's scary where it looks like everything we didn't like about Caleb was true and everything we loved about Daniels was true. And there wasn't a lot of in between there. Dude, if you tweet about Caleb Williams and say anything about them, boy, Bears fans get mad. They come at you with, you know, 20 touchdowns versus six interceptions. They talk about the offensive line. I love to tweet about the fumbles just magically.

I had like 11 fumbles and a three-game stretch one. I'm old enough to remember the conversation about how this is the perfect scenario, the old line, the run game, you know what I mean, the receivers. What a scenario to unlock him. Jane Daniels went into objectively a worse situation and took that team to the NFC championship game. I agree with you. I agree with you wholeheartedly. So look, I mean, maybe Caleb Williams is going to be awesome.

And he'll go at some point in this redraft. But let's not act like he's right now the absolute player that should have went number one. Correct. All right. Feather ruffling number two here. Washington commanders are taking my guy, JJ McCarthy. How do you reconcile? How do you?

Bow Nix takes Denver to the playoffs. Yeah, and the tape was mediocre. I mean, it was good. He exceeded expectations. J.J. McCarthy was my QB1 by a significant margin in last year's class. I saw enough from Jaden Daniels to say, okay, I'll concede that Jaden Daniels in a redraft should be my QB1. But I also saw enough from the other guys that have not tilted me off of J.G. McCarthy being better than them. So I still think J.J. McCarthy, gun to my head, is at least QB2 in this class.

I might even say QB1 still. Either way, Washington's not taking Caleb Williams. They're not taking Drake May. We could talk about Bo Nix for sure, but I still like J.J. McCarthy's prospects better than Bo Nix. All right. So we got changes that one and two. I mean, do you want to, you can override me if you want?

Do you want to go a different direction here? No, you got final say in this commander's pick. I mean, I, I like J.J. McCarthy as well. It's just, it's hard to know that we haven't seen anything from him. and there's other quarterbacks that had good rookie seasons that we're not going to lean into. Yep. All right. So the Patriots are up at three.

You've long said that they should pick Joel. All right. That's been your, that's the Brett Whitefield doesn't stop talking about that. I really think this is probably more of a Drake May versus Caleb Williams versus Bo Nix conversation. Okay. Are you, or are you going to, champion that we got to get an online or a receiver skill set here before we start getting quarter.

I would, you've already said it. I won't stop talking about it. I would go Joe Alt here. You go Joel all over like neighbors too. Yeah, part of part of redrafting is making wrong things right. And so I think we get it. We get it. If you can go to fanis points.com right now and look at my redraft mock 1.0 here. I did do it. And I had I had alt going three here. And it's just about, hey, this is the way it should have been. You don't have to do that, though, Joe. You can. This is a collaborative effort, Brett Whitefield. And you are like with your chest saying this. And I would like to make a case for a quarterback. But it's, it's not going to be as strong as what you're going to say for Joe all. Like we both believe in trenches. Like, let's get the trenches right.

And, uh, let's go with Joe. And brother, if you think about it this way, too, it's not like Joe all disappointed. He had arguably the greatest offensive tackle rookie season we've seen in the last two decades. So it's, you know what I mean? Like it's not only over over penay, over penay. It's right there with Penae and even his teammate, Rashon Slater. Those are probably the best three in the last. That's what I was just trying to think. I think it's Slater and Sewell are very high in that list. And then yeah, I think Joe Alts right there. So now if he'd disappointed, I'd probably a pivot a little bit. Maybe you do go with Bow Nix here or something like that. But because all it was awesome as as advertised, I think it's just you got to do it. You got to do it.

get your quarterback elsewhere. Okay. All right. My throw? Yeah, you're the leading candidate here. You're the leading guy here for Arizona. Let's go, uh, tell me what you think if we went Brian Thomas Jr. Your same position, but we're going to get what looks like the better player now.

I don't think, I don't think we can do anything other than have Brian Thomas, Jr. as a first receiver off the board. I think he earned that. Okay. I don't, I mean, you could tell me as it levels off, it's neighbors or it's Harris. but based on what we know, Brian Thomas Jr. was comfortably the best rookie receiver. Agree with that. So Cardinal stick and receiver here and going to Thomas Jr. Are we going to look at a different position? Do you feel strongly enough about a defensive player

that would take you off of Thomas Jr.? I don't think I do. I like some of the defensive players. And we're not going to have 14 consecutive offensive players drafts. I assure you of that. But I think that Brian Thomas. I think that's the right thing. All right. Let's do it. Brian Thomas Jr., you are an Arizona cardinal in this alternative reality. Okay, so the Chargers picked at number five and Joe Alt is not there for them.

I don't feel the same, I don't feel the urgency to go with offensive line, though. I'm looking at, I mean, we have receivers. We've got Brock Bowers. It has to be Brock Bowers. It has to be. It's your pick, but yeah. I mean. Yeah, no, it does.

it has to be Brock. It's for the same reason we just talked about Brian Thomas Jr. Like, this guy had an historically great rookie season. And the Chargers need a tight end. Like I think that would be a huge addition to their overall offensive operation. So this one actually feels pretty easy. Me, the Prox you go number five. And again, sticking with the theme of making wrong things right.

The entire mock draft season last year, Joe, had Brock Bowers going to the freaking chargers. That was like low-hanging fruit. then all of a sudden we pivoted off of that at the last minute. Not a bad pivot. Not a bad pivot. There shouldn't be a whole lot of like buyers. They lost out on the original pick.

They're, you know, one of a few teams that will probably happen for this entire exercise here. So, um, yeah, Bowers of five. I like that. Um, six. I, the giants. I think you could almost make the argument that they made the right pick at the right

time, I'm like neighbors, but knowing what we know today and the situation they're in, I, you got to which is the whole benefit of this exercise. Right. I feel like you got to go Bo Nix or Drake May here. I agree with you. Drake May's a little more Josh Alleny if we want to play into the

Yeah, I think, I think we got to lean into scheme and, uh, fit. And that, that leads me to Drake May over Bo Nix for, for the Giants. I like it. I'm good with that. Yeah, that'd be fun. Drake would be fun. Drake would be fun. in that offense too. But I think we might have a, we might have a bowlingick spot right here with the Tennessee

Titans. Number seven overall. Timing, West Coast, get the ball out. A little second reaction from time to time. I fully agree with this. Okay. I didn't, I didn't know where you'd be at with that. In fact, hold on, I got to check something.

We got to, we're going to have to pivot at some point. I think we're seven for seven right now. My exercise I did on the site. Oh, wow. So I need you to fight me on something. Man, you're just winning all the battles right now? No, no. I just, we think too much alike is what it is.

We're pretty much in lock on everything. So, I was going to go defensive player here, unlike the actual draft. Over the Atlanta. So the Atlanta Falcons, we know that Kirk Cousins is no good. And we need a quarterback. So would we, do we really want to go defense here when we still need to the quarterback and Caleb Williams and Michael Panix Jr. are still on the board. Oh.

That's a good point because we are, we do have the mindset of hindsight. Jared versus is a, is a pretty nice pick here for them. Quinion Mitchell will be a pretty nice pick here for him. But they don't play quarterback. Right. In my final mock last year, I had Quinion going to them at eight overall. That just made all the sense in the world. But I, you know what?

The benefit of hindsight, though, knowing what we know about. Kirk and the way his arm fell off of his body halfway through last season. I don't know. It feels compoundy, right? Because they still signed him. We don't get to undo that part of it, right? So they still. Yeah.

Right. All right. You still, I think they got to go with the quarter. All right. That'd be a good pivot too off of my original. Do they stick with Pennix here? Have we soured enough on Caleb Williams?

He's not, he's not part of the equation anymore. I mean, so Caleb Williams was the same player he was at USC with the Bears and we're concerned about that. But we understand that he's got a lot of physical upside and we're hopeful that he can stabilize and run the offense and then sprinkle in the cool stuff. But he's never proven to be able to run the offense and sprinkle in the cool stuff. He just wants to sprinkle in the cool stuff. Here's the thing I'm thinking too, though, Zach Robinson coming from that Rams coaching tree, he's going to run a disciplined offense. there's not going to be as much opportunities for Caleb to go off script, right? It's going to be a little more play.

Sure, if you can box them in, you think he can do it? Well, I don't know. He's a young coach. I don't know. He's also a former quarterback, though, NFL quarterback. I like that pairing a little bit. I don't know, man. I think we should pick Caleb.

We should pick Caleb. I don't disagree. The only, the last case I'd make for Pennix, Jr., is that the Falcons, we know they loved him. I guess it doesn't, I guess it doesn't really matter. matter. Let's go, Caleb. You're right. Caleb Williams. The fall, the slide ends there. Whoa, I just spelled his name wrong. The slide. You refuse to drag and drop. That's one thing I've learned about working with you on spreadsheets, not drag and drop guy.

It just opens you up for error. Yeah. Well, I disagree with you because now the players, from the player pool are still there and I've had to erase them, you know, so. Oh, darn. Yeah, that's my thing. Okay. Chicago Bears back up here at number nine. So now we have Jaden Daniels. And this feels like we have to go offensive line here, right? It feels that way. It's not BPA, though. That's what's tricky about going offensive line here.

Original pick was Roma Dunes. I think it's safe to say they probably wouldn't do that again. I think Rome's still a first round guy. Right. He's fine, yeah. But with the offensive line, we do have Jaden Daniels as a quarterback, though, so that helps our offensive line. That's true.

We do still have Harrison Jr. and neighbors on the port. I know. Is that too spicy to pick? I mean, Harrison was like my number one overall player. Were you impressed enough with a J.C. Latham that he's now a top 10 pick, or I should say still a top 10 pick? I would think if we went offensive line, I think it would be Tiles Fawaga. Oh, you know I love him. He was a top eight player for me in the class, I think. So do we do the, we do the Patriots thing? It's like, hey, we got to get this offensive line. Big people, man. Let's go Tiles Flaw. Let's do it. Let's do it. Boom. I like it.

All right. You're, your Minnesota Vikings. And they don't have the option of J.J. McCarthy. What an absolute tragedy. You know what's funny is there's still been nine straight offensive players taken. This is going to, this is going to break it though. We're going to go defense here. The question is, do we go Quinyon Mitchell? Yes.

Okay. I'll say or verse, but yeah, I like, I like Quinyon here. Quinyon Mitchell to the Vikings have always struggled to get cornerback right to. And Byron Murphy finally kind of has like that that season, but Flores and he's a free agent. So that's funny. Not that we consider that necessarily. But I think Quinyon in that system would be a lot of fun because he's an eraser.

And then you're going to put him in, you know, straight man or match coverage pretty much all the time. I love that. All right. So we get a top 10 defensive player in Quignon, Mitchell. No, no, uh, 22 overall steel coming for the Philadelphia Eagles. All right. We're getting outside the top 10, the Jets, Broncos, Raiders on deck. Folks, be sure to stick with us.

All right, Brett, New York Jets. Number 11, they got themselves a swing tackle in Olu Fashtonu for their big season with Aaron Rogers. I like, I like fashion new. I really do. But there was never a path with Moses and Tyrant Smith. You were never going to get anything out of that pick, just like you, will McDonald the year before.

came on this year, but that didn't help you in year one. Anyways, what's that guy's name? Joe Douglas. Yeah, he's, he's not calling the shots anymore. So we know that we need a quarterback. I know that you really like Michael Pennix. So do we do that here? I like it that much, but. Okay.

Gosh, Joe. I don't know. We got some big time receiver talent. Big time receiver talent. We got to pick one of these receivers, right? It's kind of how it feels. And you want to pick a complimentary skill sets of Garrett Wilson, right? Yeah. So Marvin Harrison, June.

I kind of feel, although Neighbors was discernibly better. Well, Neighbors is about to be the next pick. Oh, you think so? Yeah, right. He should be. Malik Neighbors is falling, is falling. I mean, that shouldn't happen. I'm going Marvin Harrison, June.

Him and Wilson, I think, is a great pair. That is a great pair. And it would prevent them from trading capital for Devon. to Adams. Right. We did a lot of good things. We did. We're making wrong things right. All right. Denver Broncos at 12. I mean, they don't have a ton of receiver talent. So neighbors does make sense in theory, but they also don't have a quarterback, Joe. Oh, and you like Pennix, right? I mean, I don't, I don't love Pennix. He was my QB6 last year. He's good. I think he's a good prospect. But, you know, they don't have Bo Nix now because they lost him to the Titans

set pick seven. Do you feel like they should go Pennix here? Do you think they should go with neighbors? Neighbors wouldn't be a bad spot at 13 either, but. Right. Well, I guess with neighbors and boy, I'm not going to say Marvin Mims to prevent you from drafting neighbors, but like your option is Jared Stidham and Zach Wilson at quarterback. You probably, you probably got to do the penix thing here. If you, you liked them enough to pick them right here, right? So I, I would support it. All right. Let's do it. and then we got a sprint to the podium moment here for the Raiders. They are going to get Malik Neighbors. Right here.

We miss out on Brock Bowers. Great job picking him originally number 13. Your consolation prize is Malik Neighbors. Not bad. Not bad at all. This is funny because neighbors had an awesome rookie season, yet somehow he fell seven spots. Right. Well, that's, I think that's the nature of you and I doing this and valuing trench players, right?

Like we got some offensive tackles in some spots. And then the. chargers like they could have went neighbors for sure but we felt like bowers was kind of like what they needed in first grade of the year the neighbors had bowers was freaking good too oh yeah and then we had other quarterbacks so yeah just kind of the quarterbacks could probably getting slotted a little bit more correctly i think yeah change that um yeah we had six well i guess there was six in the top 12 anyways but yeah that's that's funny um all right the saints at 14 this is kind of another sprint to the podium moment is it not

they're going to go Jared Verse here. It feels right. Yeah. Talk about Kim Jordan on steroids. We got Jared Verse. Yeah, I think this is a, this is the pick. I think this is an interesting choice now for the Colts at 15. They wound up originally picking Lay 2 Latu. He had a good rookie season.

But I think even if we went with an edge rusher, we should pick Chop Robinson. I think he had a better rookie season. But I also like, when I watch the Colts, man, I was like, I don't know that they have front seven issues. I think they have corner issues. And whether it's, you know, Nate Wiggins,

Darianne Arnold, like those feel like that would have made their overall defense better, even though I do likely A2 Latu. Which corner would you pick here for the Colts? For the style of defense they play, I'm comfortable going Nate Wiggins or Cooper deGene here probably. Nate Wiggins with that taradactal, you know, reaps.

Yeah. And I, like Cooper to Jean a ton. He was the number 11 player on my board. I had him graded higher than Wiggins. But I do think he's probably more of a slot, right? Yes. Which is going to knock his value a little bit here. All right. Let's go Wiggins.

Nate Wiggins to the class. Wow, Wiggins getting a big jump. I thought he had a good rookie season, man. I thought some of the, some of the commentary about him not being physical and tackling, I thought was off. I didn't see a lack of physicality. I just was worried about the physicality in the NFL because he's so small. Like a sin, thin, low BMI player, but it's never really affected him.

So I don't, I don't know. Very competitive, dude. Yeah, he'd be great in that, that cult system too, man. The Gus Bradley cover three style, off cover three. I like that. All right. Seattle Seahawks, pick 16. Byron Murphy, the original selection.

Yeah, Byron. I think it's safe to say we're pivoting off of that. I think I got a good one here. We're going to go Ladd-McConkie. Okay. Our succession plan for Tyler Lockett's right there, huh? Yeah. We get another inside-out receiver to go with, you know,

Jackson Swift and Jigba and D-K. Metcalf. The matchup nightmares you could create with, with J-S-N and Ladd-McConkey would be nasty. McConkey obviously had a phenomenal. How do you spell his name? L-A-D-D. MCC. Got it.

Yeah, it's a slam dunk pick, man. Just that offense would be scary. Ideally, they get a quarterback here, but they can't because they're all gone. Well, and maybe Seahawks fans were hoping for interior offensive linemen, maybe. Maybe, yeah. Their tackle situation was rough, so we had some guys available. All right, Minnesota Vikings are up next. And

it's an interesting opportunity that they have. I'm looking at Chop Robinson in a big way. I'm also not overlooking corner. You know, like you, they certainly made it work, but Gilmore, Murphy. You just gave them Quinnion, though. Oh, yeah. I forgot. They already had a pick in this draft. Yeah.

We don't have, so we have Sam Darnold, but we know who Sam Darnold is. We don't have a quarterback. for them. You're exactly right. Yeah, we don't have a quarterback. But they're not getting one. No. We got to go edge road. We got to go chop. Imagine chop in the floor is defense. Seems like a too good of a fit, right?

That's nasty. Nasty work. Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's the obvious. So your defense is Mitchell and chop. Good Lord. And all the crazy fun things you can do with Chop and Fabio there. What's his name? Van Ginkle. a different alignments you can create. Gingles a dude, man.

He's a guise a ball. Yeah, I love him. 18, Cincinnati Bengals. They win a Marius Mims, offensive tackle. Who knows how good that guy's going to be? If it comes together, he's a monster, but. I think I'm tempted to go either J.C. Latham here.

I still think they need tackle help. I don't. Oh, for sure. I was never sold. on Ameri's Mims that high because of the just wild profile. He had eight games started in college. But I think they could also go with the T. Higgins' secession plan, considering they don't like to pay anyone.

So Romo Dune's a beat Taylor made for that. Exactly. That's what I'm thinking either Rome or J.C. Latham. If you had to pick one, what would you do? I think we've, every single time we've been faced with this challenge, we went with the offensive linemen. all right let's go j c latham then i like that all right so that means the rams are up at number 19 and they're not getting jared verse pour one out that's that's a real shame it's a real shame

um they can still get laid too lot to here though that feels like a pretty good consolation i i have a hard time with them like if you have a a player on the edge and you saw the impact the verse made like I think we should stick with that position group here. I know that like maybe I mean, Roma Dunez is there and they well, we know what we know the situation do. They're kind of, they're going to move on from Kopp and I think O'Donzee would be perfect. Mm hmm. I think that any secondary help and we got Tarian Arnold's and Cooper de Gene staring at us right now.

There you go a lot of ways here. I kind of like the, the Rome plan, but. we don't have that many options for a pass rusher though no we don't have another option for our Roma Dunesay either true and we're the Rams all right here's what I'm doing we're going to pick Roma Dunezay let me tell you why Cooper Cup he's expired

and Pukinakua has always hurt there you go let's get us a guy that really fits what they want to do I think he's a great fit all right I like that pick 20 this is an interesting one Joe, because the player I'm inclined to go with was drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers initially.

However, he was drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the second round. Zach Frazier. Now, if Roma Dunezay was on the board, that was going to be an easy choice, right? Correct. For sure. Zach Frazier, though, was awesome as a rookie. Definitely played his way. I think any redraft format you're doing, he's going to the first round. That's easy.

But the question is, do they need something else more than the Zach Frazier. I mean, there's not a receiver here I love. I'm not a big Xavier worthy guy. E.D. Mitchell, I thought had a really, the tape from his rookie season far outweighed the statistics because he pulled with weird, weird quarterbacks. Keon Coleman, baby.

You can make a case for Keon Coleman here. Who are you higher on right now, Keon or Xavier Leggett? I would say the first nine games before Keon Coleman got injured was better than anything like Xavier Leggett did as a rookie. So I'll lean into that. Now, do you think both of them would, do you think they'd go in the first round in a redraft? No. I don't know. Keon didn't and Leggett barely did.

So, yeah, no, we know too much. We know too much about other players for them to get in there. I kind of feel. Especially a receiver. All right. So let's, let's pivot then. Let's go Zach Frazier. I think that's what my gut told me.

I think we got to stick with that. nothing wrong with that. Is that the first guy staying with the same team just in a different round? I think so. But the fact that it's a different round when their original first round pick is still available, it makes it certainly pretty interesting. So, all, we got more to do here. Dolphins, Super Bowl champion, Eagles, all coming up here on the other side of it.

Folks, be sure to stick with us. All right, Brett, this one's easy for the dolphins. They don't get Chop Robinson. And boy, they needed him, right? The whole Jalen Phillips, Bradley Chubb coming off of it. injury, you know, that didn't, that didn't work out, right? Chubb really never came back. And then Phillips got hurt again. It was, it's unfortunate. So like, you could go with an edge rusher, but the longstanding issues have been the offensive line, right? I mean, they,

they rolled with Robert Jones and Liam Eichenberg at guard. I think that kind of blew up on him. And it's our chance here to make wrong things right. We don't have Chop Robinson to pick here. But Troy Fontenew seems like the obvious choice here. I think he can come in and be be an impact guard in that system right away. So we're going try to Fountain. I didn't even ask if you agree. I think you do it. And you put him at guard.

Put in my guard. Okay. I like it. So Fonanus falls all of one spot. It's not bad. So the Steelers don't look dumb after all. Philadelphia Eagles here. I'm going to do it again, Joe.

Cooper? I'm going Cooper to Jean. Another second round player. You know, they miss out on their initial first round, Picayon, Mitchell. but they nailed the second round pick so much. They're just going to stick with that. We know it works, too.

Yeah, I dig it. I dig it. Jacksonville's got to be disappointed. They're picking up here at 23, and the guy they got winds up going top five. So good on them for making that pick. Let's go ahead and fire the GM, though, you know? Right.

Not a bad move. They needed to do that. All right. So Jacksonville was so bad on defense, right? So bad. They were so bad at everything, weren't they? I know. Do they played all that man coverage and couldn't cover?

That's going to lead me to what I would do. And it would save me from doing something at Pick 24. I don't want to have to. I'm going to save you. Terry and Arnold, you are a Jacksonville, Jaguar, and we're going to play man coverage and have a chance to do it. All right, cool. I don't have to draft Terran Arnold again.

You hit, you literally cannot. I would have, too, if he was there. I think the lines would be comfortable with that. Well, now you're just going to go Mike San Francisco, right? No. No. I'm going to go, you ready?

I'm going to go Laotu Lateu. Ah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, yo, Brett, if they were both on the board, you should still pick Laatu, Latu. Based on what you know now. Sure. Yeah, yeah, that's probably true. No, I don't know.

Arnold was really good down the stretch, dude. People, I know he had the, you know, people remember the early part of that season where he was getting penalties every five plays. From week 11, I sent you the day to Joe. It was nuts. what I remember is a third and four against the bills and Dalton Kincaid got on top of them vertically

on a corner route and had a huge conversion. Okay. We'll be back on Thursday, guys. I like Terry and Arnold the Tud. He's a good play. I picked him. I picked him for the Jaguars. I like Terry and Arbor. All right. The lines go out to the edge, ops aided Hudson, which takes them out of Miles Garrett consideration, probably. Yo, hold up.

Can we have a second and think about that edge combination? Like a healthy lay two and a healthy Hutchinson. Gross. There's never been more pass rush moves shown to an offensive tackle bear in a game than what, what's coming with that matchup? They both have a really nice spin move, actually. They do, which is spin moves for me are complicated because when they work, boy, they are beautiful.

But when they don't, I mean, you're probably getting out of your rush lane. You know, you're getting washed. It's like the, it's the biggest risk reward move. It's like, I like, I like, I, like, I love. love it, but I also hate it when a guy's got a good spin. The amount of inside spin moves, Hutch has hit to just have the quarterback scramble for 10 yards immediately afterwards. It's just like, clean spin move where it's like, oh, wow, we got pressure in half a second. And then it's the, there's no one on contained now. So

it has to be time to break. And usually to get that as a count, an inside counter to work, you have to stack up some else. I got to say it works is like you flash something that didn't work. And now you're hitting the spit off of it. So, um, yeah. I have a love-hate relationship with spin moves. I was actually listening to Max Crosby over the weekend, do an interview when he was talking about like his past rush plan and how, you know, what he tries to do in terms of very intentional things early to set up those one little moments, those long and late downs to do it.

It's like, it's fascinating to listen to a guy like that talk about his process of getting his signature move to work. So, yeah. Green Bay Packers. They went, what, Jordan. Morgan with the first pick, don't think you're in that direction. I feel like Jordan Morgan and Tyler Guyton were the two most forgettable first round picks that happened.

And Tyler Guyton wind up starting for Dallas being pretty good. I think Jordan Morgan is pretty good too. They're just very forgettable selections. That happens when you build the trenches. Yeah, it's not necessarily a bad thing. Are you, we've been talking all about how they need a number one receiver. I have, I don't know if I can help them there, right? worthy Mitchell, Kiann Coleman,

and Parasol are available. Being a perisol guy, I don't know why you say Parasol, by the other, it's Pearsall. But being a Pearsall guy, I could make the argument. I don't know. I say Parasol because it's spelled P-A-R, which is pair. Whatever. I don't think anyone would agree with me, though.

I don't think Pierce-all put enough on tape to warrant a selection this high still. So I think you've got to go something else. Checking is. It is. It's Pierceville. Piercele, yeah. That's the official pronunciation.

My apologies, I think the most most basic form of respect that you could show another human being is pronouncing their name correctly. And I want to initial apology here for Ricky Piercesell. I say that because somebody said that to me once. Yeah, I remember.

I remember this. Yeah, I don't forget. I don't forget that. I got to make a pick here for the Packers. I know what you should do, but. I feel like they need corner, right? corner there's also a pretty good edge prospect here sitting there and that'd be a very green bay ask pick Dallas Turner he didn't do a lot as a rookie and so there's a chance he doesn't go in the

first round here but I don't know man you might be on with grand barton grand barton's grand barton that's such a Packers pick too a guy you can play like five different positions just like yeah whatever we need you to play left tackle today bud settle up I mean, Zach Tom and Elkton Jenkins have just been so good at doing that. You have convictions on this? You think it should be Dallas Turner. This is the hardest pick we've had so far of the mock. I have no.

Okay. I'm glad I'm glad you feel that way because I'm absolutely sure. I feel that way. Anytime I do a mock draft, like figuring out who the Packers are going to take is so difficult. All right, let's get it down to options. Oh, yeah, go options. I got one to throw out you when we get there.

Okay, so Barton, Turner, Sanra still are on the menu. And then I'll add a fourth one. Great. Kenny Clark's getting a little old. What if we threw Devonre sweat into the mix? I really love Byron Murphy too. Oh, you like Murphy for that? Yeah, I love Burr.

I love Murphy. You think you can play knows the way Kenny Clark plays knows? I know it's Evandre Sweat. Yes. Yes, I do. Yeah, more athletic, too. Yeah. So I think either of those are slam dunks and very Packers picks.

They draft a lot of D-Lineman. We know that the, actually, we have the benefit hindsight. That D-Line struggled all year, Joe. That was probably one of their big issues. Rishon Gary wasn't the same. They didn't get anything opposite of him. All right. You convince me.

I'm going Byron. I like it. Technically, you convinced me. I didn't even say, Byron, Murphy, you did. And then I agreed. I'm not mad about it. Tampa Bay at 26, they're going to just go, they're just going to go Graham Barton, right?

Well, is there an edge rusher conversation to be had about Dallas Turner? Yes, but Barton was so good for that. Yeah, I don't think he should change. Yeah, don't fix what's not broke. And the Cardinals couldn't be more happy. True. Because now they're getting Dallas Turner. This feels easy.

Like they need impact players for their front. They picked Darius Robinson in this slot. And I didn't love him to begin with. and then he didn't even play as a rookie, right? So I'm not mistaken. He played a little, I think. Did he? Yeah.

Well, with Dallas Turner, welcome to the, uh, Hassan Redick role. Yes. Herge out of the Gannon's defense. We need you. Um, you mentioned Darius Robinson. He's like the quintessential second and third round edge type player.

Not a lot of ceiling because he's not that ethically gifted, but he's a solid, technically refined, strong player. You need those guys on the team. right, but they're not really superstars. Like I, I didn't love that as a first run pick. So I agree with you. Played in six games.

Six games. Okay. All towards the end of the year. Yeah. Yeah. He's from the city I live in, Joe. He played at the local high school here. Wow.

That's, uh, he played at, uh, Canton, Canton in a two-year span, put out Aiden Hutchinson, Chris Braswell and, uh, and Darius Robinson. now they all play for different schools because of private schools and stuff like that. But imagine those three dudes in the same D-line in high school. That would be crazy. Yeah, I'm a lot of guys. All right. Kinney's Chiefs.

You can get him a tackle? They went Xavier Worthy initially. I am not doing that now. Well, I mean, he had like 100-something yards in the Super Bowl. In garbage time. He's a big part of the AFC championship game win over the bills, Xavier Worthy. I mean, Buffalo gave him Tyrie Hill.

What are you talking about? I would give them a tackle, Joe, but I'm not sure what tackle to give them. Marius Mims. Or Tyler Guyton. The Tyler Garten starting left tackle for the Cowboys all year, man. I'm, okay. I hear the tackle combo.

I'd go a Mims if I go tackle. However, any chance you'd go, Mike Sandor still here. Yeah, I'd think about it. And I'd think about Tom Andre's sweat as well. Santer still is a Spag's guy. Can play outside in safety. can play wherever you need him to play just like Legerius need before him and

Trent McDuffie before him again like that's those are the types of dudes spags gravitates towards and turns into superstars I don't know man Sandor still or Mims I mean that tackle situation is so dire it is hard to rectify and they did take one in the second round right

yeah Kings I mean and it doesn't you could go Tyler Guyton as well Guyton, true. I think I'm more comfortable with that. Let's go Guyton. Okay. Tyler Guyton. Which snipes Dallas. Oh, true. Nice. I like it for that reason. We're okay. We're okay with it. We're okay with it. We, we, there's the offensive line help that we can get. My problem with Dallas fundamentally for a number of years has been you just don't have the beef in the middle of that defense. Oh, we're doing. Dude, we're staring at the Vandre sweat. Let's. We're doing it. We're not going to ask him to lose 100 pounds, though.

You know, we're not going to do the whole Mazzie Smith on him. dude, I really like Mazzis Smith. Loved him. They ruined him. He played a little better this year, though, a little bit towards the end. Joe, just so you know, in my mock draft for the site, the redraft, I had to Vondres sweat going to the Cowboys. So, oh, okay, okay, okay. We think alike there.

Oh, man. Yeah, that's a really good pick. They've not been good stopping the run for, like, seems like a decade. So I probably get some beef there. Baltimore Ravens. They initially went Nate Wiggins, who was not available. Wiggins ended up being a top 15 selection for us. Crazy.

Yeah. A couple guys I could think of here. We could go with another interior defensive lineman, a guy who is a penetrating force. But I think I'm going to stick with cornerback unless you talk me off the ledge. And I think I'm going to go Mikey Sandor still here. No, and I think what helps with Santer still is that he's proving he can play on the outside. Yeah. That he did that for Washington.

We know that now. You can play outside. You can play nickel if you need them to. If you want hump on the outside, you could do that. But whatever you need to make work, he can do it. And that's the thing about Wiggins' presence help them because, like, Brandon Stevens was a disaster. And they're playing Trudevius White rotationally as well.

I mean, like, cornered for sure. I think you could have made a case for like maybe an offensive lineman, but I think Sammer still is the right move here. I think they're happy with Rosenberg. dart and two. Yeah, yeah. So I should have gone that direction, but. Follahili at right guard's probably the, probably the guy to look at as a, you know, to replace, but for sure. All right, two picks left. I got the 49ers here at 31. They picked, uh, piercel. Yeah. They're not doing that again. I don't think. No, I don't think so. I think with the benefit of

hindsight, they could get a piece for their offensive line as it starts to age and, you know, they're going to replace a bunch of that. Uh, I think obviously. their defensive line as well, where I don't think they have a lot of options at all, both inside and outside. Yeah, Dom Pune is the guy that they drafted later. Second round. I think third or fourth. Man, if they didn't pick, if they didn't have puny, what would they have for their offensive line? Like Trent Williams is expiring, older player. Aaron Banks is a free agent. Brendel's super upgradable at center. Colt McEvich is super.

or upgradeable I tackle. That was my argument for the mock draft we just did last week. We gave him Josh Simons from Ohio State. It was like, well, they have to. They have no choice but to address offensive line at some point. So I think we need to make sure they continue with Dom Pune. I think we know that that works and we need to make sure they get them. Because this is a true redraft.

He's not available. We got to know when he was drafted. Third round, third round pick 86, pick 86. Yeah, he's not getting there. He's not getting it. He's going in the next 10. His tape last year was first round caliber for sure. Yeah.

Yeah. I like that. I like that. Where did I have him initially? I had him 25 to Green Bay in my in my redraft. So I like this. All right, Carolina, the last pick of the first round here, they went wide receiver initially with Xavier Leggett.

The little did they know they could just get Jalen Coker. Here, if they wanted to go receiver, they have options. Ricky Pearsall, Xavier Worthy, A.D. Mitchell, Keon Coleman, Xavier Legat, all those guys are still there.

I don't have a good defense, they gave up the most points in the history of the world. And I think this is what I want to do. There's some good defensive players still there too, but there's a guy you and I

have debated about all year. And I was really, I was really harsh on him early in the year. He grew on me as the year went on. And I think it's safe to say, in hindsight now, Kamari Lasseter is absolutely a first round pick. And I'm going, so I'm going to go cornerback from Georgia, Kamari Lassiter here. I dig it.

I think that's a, I mean, Dane Jackson didn't really work out as a free agent signing injuries. And then who was it like, who's the guy that went up to start from him? Mike Green or something. Okay. J.C. Horn definitely bounce back though. Right. Whenever he's healthy, he's good. I think that's my favorite thing about J.C. Horn is that like, even though he's

been in out of the lineup. Whenever he plays, he balls. I'm a big fan. Mike Jackson's name of the corner I was thinking of, Mike Jackson. They threw some spaghetti at the wall with a lot of free agent type. And they have Caleb Farley in there too at one point. Yeah. You know, just for the fullness of the conversation, I could have gotten on board with like an Edge Cooper idea for them too. Oh, yeah. And they just for other reason, they've always loved those, those hybrid linebackers. Well, when you draft Thomas Davis. Shack Thompson. And get to Luke

Right. Those coverage backers, man. They've had them in droves. They'd spend their thing. Maybe Trayvon Wallace will be their next guy. But yeah. Okay. So who who was drafted in the first round that didn't get redrafted in the first round?

Worthy Mitz. Leggett. Legate. Yeah. Worthy Leggett. Amaris Mims, Jordan Morgan. Morgan. Was J.P.J.

First round? No. No. Second round. Um, Newbin wasn't a first round pick, right? No, no. Pierceall, Pierce, Darius Robinson. Darius Robinson.

So there's three receivers. Dersan Newton was the early second, right? Yeah, second round. Yeah. So who had the biggest fall? Oh, Olu Foshanu. He didn't go? No, he didn't go. mistakes were probably made there. You think so?

I don't think so. Where would you slot them in? Kansas City over Tyler Guyton. Oh, shoot. Yeah, we messed that up. For whatever reason, he didn't make our list. I don't know why. That's my bad.

I would say. Do you want to swap that? Let's just swap for the graphic, too. There's going to be a graphic on Twitter. We might as well swap it. Okay. We would definitely pick J.C. Latham over him at 19, right?

Yes. Yeah, I think Tyler Guyton's probably the name. Even though Guyton had a better rookie season. Yeah. But Fasci knew when he was healthy, he was good. He got injury late in the season. He's also, he's a little bit raw as a prospect. He is.

He is. He's wrong. The win now mode. I don't know. I don't think we have to. Yeah, I think you're right. The other spot would be Sam Fran instead of Puney going. But Puney was a first rounder.

Man, that's tough. Gosh, that's tough. I think I'm mostly comfortable with this. I think I am too. Anyone else other than Olu that you feel like it's kind of weird they didn't go in the first round? I mean, Braden Fiske had a pretty good year. He did.

He's close. Edge Cooper's close. Edge Cooper is definitely close. We thought about Ameris Mims 14 times, but then he's seven career starts and then got injured again. Yeah. Tyler Nubin close for you at all? No.

No, I don't, I didn't feel that urgency. I like Nubin, but I didn't feel that urgency. No. You're doing this, exercise you dig up a lot of the names that went like early second round max melton was like a top 40 pick

and i didn't mind him at a prospect but he went over guys like saint ristill and and and kamari lasseter and some some absolute dudes man like that's uh not great for a team star for defensive talent right now he might be fine you might be fine player i'm not saying books written it's just kind of okay he went over cooper de jean that's crazy right i don't i i will never understand the cooper de jean thing he was the number 11 player on my board yeah he was top 20 for me as well i i really don't know that one either that's that's weird

and the fact that the eagles got freaking both him and quinyon they were dead at corner too they were dead they got jalen carter and nolan smith the year before that was the number one and seven player on my board i was i was not a nolan smith guy uh pauling carter was my number one player so God, I love Nolan Smith. I mean, I'm not right about everything, but when I say it wasn't a Nolan Smith guy, I mean like comparatively to what you had him seven. I think I had him 30, 31, something like that. Where he got drafted?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, interesting. All right, man. Let's got out of. That was fun. I like doing that. That was fun.

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