Fantasy Football Daily - Actionable Dynasty Advice | Trading For 25 1sts + Variance With Young WRs
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I'm Thomas Tipple.
That's Lucas Gilbert.
This is Dynasty Points.
We are one half of the host.
And this week, we have everything that you could possibly need.
Wide receivers with variance.
We are answering Discord questions like, what do we do with Rashad White in Dynasty?
How do we handle tight end sadness?
And why do all the quarterbacks suck this year?
We use war to explain why everything sucks.
And then we also wipe our tears away as Jacob crushes us in player picks.
all this coming up on dynasty points.
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And we love you for tuning in and hanging out with this.
Dynasty sucks.
It's hard.
It's frustrating.
It's sad.
If you saw the thumbnail, it is all bad.
Everything is bad.
Offense is bad.
If you're just lucky enough to be the guy that played like the,
the eight players that did well this week.
Salute to you.
Everything else majorly disappointing.
The Saints and Eagles,
disappointing if you weren't Sequin and Barclay, really.
It was supposed to be a massive,
huge game for New Orleans.
Hey,
don't leave Dallas Goddard out.
Best time of game in the year.
That's right.
Dallas Goddard.
Speaking of tight ends,
geez,
we're going to talk about that.
Chris Olaffi is no longer cheap.
Yeah,
Chris Olava.
He was like,
I wanted a blow up game.
All right.
Look,
I missed a,
A big, huge parlay on two Rashid catches that he dropped.
Addie caught those two balls.
We're talking about a mini paycheck here, all right?
And I'm very sad.
Sheid.
Yes.
Terrible.
Not great.
Don't like that.
But look, we love you for joining us.
We've lots to talk about today.
We have three questions from the Discord that we asked today.
We have some wide receivers we're going to talk about.
We don't need to do RB updates, I don't feel like right now, because we kind of know what
they all are.
Nothing has changed except for Bucky Irving, but I could spend an hour just talking about that alone.
Rashad, actually we are talking about Rashad White a little bit today, so we will talk about it with one of the questions.
Joining me, as always is Jacob Sanderson.
That's Lucas Gilbert.
That's at Jacob Sanderson and at L. Gilbert F.F.
Guys, so much to dive into.
I don't really want to beat around the bush.
As always, one thing that stood out from the weekend.
We'll start with that.
Jacob, what's one thing you noticed over the course of the weekend?
quarterback talent fighting back um you know i i'm the i'm the i'm the it's all scheme guy a lot of
times that obviously i kind of overstate the point to make the point um but two examples that
three examples that stick out in my head of um where we actually get to see i think a quarterback
genuinely separate themselves um is first off Andy dalton coming out Dave canales took a bat
said, hey, my scheme's fine.
Bryce Young is just too shitty to manage it.
Andy Dalton said, I'm going to prove you correct.
He comes out as one of the best performances of the day.
Kind of proves what I think we all kind of knew,
which is that there is a point below which you simply can't be a viable quarterback,
regardless of anything around you.
And Bryce Young appears to be below that point.
So shout out to Andy Dalton, show up to Dave Canales.
Shout out to anyone who has any Panther and fantasy this year.
They are back from the dead.
So, Tate Johnson, Chuba Hubbard,
John of the Brooks,
Xavier Ligat, we have hope.
New Life.
Carolina Panthers.
Another example, before I get to the biggest what,
Josh Allen.
I, like, maintain and still maintain that I think Joe Brady is, like, fine.
I don't think he's like a horrific offensive coordinator or anything.
He's not Shane Waldron.
But I don't think he's very special.
I think he's leaned into the run too much in certain spots.
Not last night.
He came out throwing.
And you also look at the Buffalo Sporting cast.
I mean, it's not like a,
an awful supporting cast
like they have useful players
but Shakir is like a very good role player
Cook is a very helpful
real life running back
Kincage's a good head out I don't think he's like
and we lost Jacob
immediately he was on a heater
too. Yeah he was
he was on an absolute heater
we're going to get him back
in a minute that was just super
weird
Lucas what do you notice from the weekend
biggest takeaways from the weekend? Biggest
takeaways from the
weekend, including Saturday. It was all about the Vols this weekend. So I got to give them a shout
out, got my orange lights on after going to Oklahoma, winning one for hype there. But then also,
like, I think we have to talk about one of the biggest winners on the weekend. And that's Mr.
Juan Jennings, just absolutely coming out of nowhere, having a massive game. And I think probably
has arguably the catch of the year on Saturday. It was awesome to watch.
watch in non-tenessee related news, though.
I will have to say it's,
I think the biggest takeaway are some of the wide receivers
getting a little bit more on track.
I think offices in general are starting to catch up a little bit,
shaking off that rust,
getting into more of their groove.
And I will let Jacob take over because he was on that heater.
So back over to you.
Oh, man.
I don't know what happened.
I literally just hit,
I literally just like hit my like adapter that plugs
in my camera and my mic and it like unplugged it from the computer and sent me to the shadow realm
for 30 seconds. But yeah, it's commending the bills. Josh Allen, looks like it's going to me his MVP season.
And I was building up to the biggest one, which is, um, Jaden Daniels. People, you know, we got people
caping up now for Cliff Kingsbury online. Don't cape up for Cliff Kingsbury. Um, came up for
Jane Daniels, who looked like an absolute superstar last night. Two straight games without,
hunting has this incredible final throw to Terry McLaurin, which we could talk about for ages.
The two plays that I highlighted in the intro to my column today that I want to show it out on this podcast,
that to me we're like, oh man, this is not even just an incredible rookie game.
This is a guy plays work.
On the same drive, the drive that makes it 3826, essentially the clinching drive.
Early in the drive is a third and three.
They're running a mesh concept that he's rolling out to his right.
and Terry McCorn gets picked up at the mesh point by the linebacker who kind of carries him for about as long as he can run with Terry McCorn.
And then at some point he decides, I can't keep up with Terry McClorn anymore.
I'm going to rush straight at Daniels and he has a defensive back at him corner safety, whatever, kind of trying to pick up Terry behind him,
which leaves Terry open for about one second where he's now been dropped by the linebacker before he's about to get picked up by the defensive back.
Daniels waits it out, watching what's going to happen.
And as soon as he sees the linebacker release, just calmly flips it over the top of the linebacker,
hits McClorn right before he's about to get hit.
Conversion comes up a couple of plays later where it ends up being a big touchdown to McLaren.
Before we get the touchdown to McLaurin, they have 10 men on the field and they have no timeouts.
And it's confusion and its craziness.
And ultimately, Daniel's able to go take care of business, whatever.
We're rolling with 10.
Fuck it.
We'll do it live.
Gets McCaffrey into his spot.
snaps the ball, sees the one-on-one,
knows he's going to be hot
because they don't have another man on the field
to block the hot tie,
chucks it up anyways,
McCorn catches it.
Those plays were like,
the whole game that I watched,
I thought the Bengals were going to win.
This felt like the classic game
of like rookie shows up on prime time,
and it's the moral victory game.
It's the game where the Bengals walk out with the win.
Joe Burrow played fantastic in this game.
And then you come out of a saying,
well, Washington, they didn't win,
but they really won because they found their quarterback of the future, right?
And we put that on fast forward last night.
It seems clear they found their quarterback, obviously, of the future,
but also of the present in terms of him having the poise to not just put them in the position to win,
but actually do it.
I was so, so, so impressed with him last night as everybody was.
But I wanted to shut out those two plays because I thought those went beyond sort of the physical attributes that were obvious,
but shows just sort of what a calm, cool, collected customer he was throughout that game.
Yeah, I agree. As for Terry McLaren, I mean, you, you have, I wrote them up as a player to sell low. And in my article I put, we need to wait for like the game. You got it. He caught two incredibly deep balls, both perfectly placed. And he caught a couple others, the one that you had mentioned. And there was another ball in there that I missed. This is your shot. If you want to move off him, this is your shot. You still a 29 year old wide receiver.
still run by Cliff Kingsbury.
The two deep balls were both one-on-one coverage on a blitz.
The Bengals defense is not good.
If you're going to move them, move them.
I want to go back to Buffalo.
Because what I notice is James Cook,
you were talking about him and you were on an absolute heater.
I love his usage.
Like this guy, top 12 back,
if you remember,
I was the highest on the show with him a couple years ago when he came out.
I think I'm still the highest on him.
now on the show.
He's getting some past game work now, which they are deliberately targeting them.
And the juice is is definitely there.
And like you said, Joe Brady likes to run the ball.
He's even getting some goal line carries.
All wheels up on James Cook.
He looked like one of the best backs in the league in the NFL this week.
So I wanted to shout him out.
Just again, I noticed the running backs are just.
back. We had nine running back scored 20 ppr points this week.
It's absurd that we're getting this every single week.
So until this changes, that's going to be what I noticed.
Running backs are just in. They're back in fashion.
It's back on the menu, if you would.
What was it week? Week one, we only had, well, we had seven.
And then week two for 20 points scores, we only had five.
And this week, and week three, we get nine.
9 truly remarkable.
We almost had even more with Singletary
and then cook himself.
And a lot of these, they're not even,
it's not Breeze Hall, it's not Bejohn.
It's not like those,
it's definitely not McCaffrey right now.
Obviously, he's not playing.
We're looking at outside of the top guys
are giving you this production right now.
It is really an RB drafters paradise.
So, right, really what I noticed.
Right now the RB 15 is more.
valuable to your lineup than the qb4 and more valuable than a single one of the titans in the league
it's absolutely insane right now uh what do you mean by that well thank you for asking tom
talking about war which dropped this morning uh drops every tuesday morning so we're three weeks in
have six different league types so make sure you check it out but right now it's i'm not expecting
this at all. Whenever you go back through some of the historical stuff, too, it is absolutely crazy
what running backs are doing right now. And I think it's more of a testament, not only to their
skill and the depth we have at the position, just how they've been dominating the season,
but also where a lot of the other positions have been underperforming so far. But quarterbacks are
coming back, as Jacob correctly pointed out. I think we only had two in the top 30 through two weeks,
and now we're up to five. So they're getting there. Corbybacks, they're
working their way back. We're on the up.
Just not the one Jacob wants.
That was a rough showing last night.
That was a rough.
Rough showing. But Christian Kirk's not dead.
Christian Kirk is not dead.
Although,
catch the ball and hit you in the face.
Can we like,
it hit you in the face?
No, you can't.
The stats that they put up, this isn't,
this isn't even Trevor Cope, it's just funny.
The stat they put up on the broadcast last night
during one of the several typical check
wide receiver drops when they were like jaguars have 109 drops since uh i think it was like
the last since 2021 or something and they were like second place is 18 fewer it was like yeah that
that feels that feels that feels accurate to what i have to endure every single week
we all know what's happening is that they're the colts haven't won in jacksonville in like 12 years
it's like a weird curse for a team it's not good like there's no it's not hard to win in
Jacksonville, everyone else does it.
They're playing the Texas system.
They're going to get shit kicked.
And then they're going to fire Doug Peterson and press Taylor mercifully.
And then in week five, guess who's coming over for dinner?
The Indianapolis Colts are going to Trevor Bank Stadium.
And yeah, it's going to be the classic.
Coach just got fired.
We're going to look temporarily good for a week.
Everybody's going to try hard.
We're not going to drop any balls.
And the Colts are going to get their face punched in.
And we're going to lose like the, I don't know, that 40.
It'll be like, it'll be like such a heartwarming,
positive moment for you, but also cripplingly depressing because you want the Colts to win.
It's going to be a no win situation for you on that.
Yeah.
Peterson's loyalty to press Taylor is, it's a weird loyalty.
But you know what?
me and Andy Buckler or Dynasty Buck in the or just Buck in the Fantasy Points Discord.
We're talking about this after the Falcons game.
I don't know if you guys remember,
but I talked about early on in the offseason about being worried about first year play callers
and how it didn't matter what system they came from.
We should be concerned about first year play callers.
I'm worried about the Falcons and their play calling.
I feel like they were running all those screen passes at the end of the game
because they literally ran out of plays they could run.
Like, I feel like their offense is so condensed.
They ran out of plays to run because they just, they didn't know what to do.
They didn't have enough of their offense rolled out.
Look what's happening in Tennessee.
That offense looks broken.
Some of that is Will Levis.
I get it.
I mean, Will Levis makes some pretty amazing throws.
And then he stays in his receivers to let Jir pick him off.
But like that off.
Well, Elvis is a talented dude.
Weird.
Like, it sucks that the NFL has space for a lot of bad.
quarterbacks, but they don't have space for the bad quarterbacks that are bad in the way
Will Levis is bad. Like, I wish Will Levis could start in the league for 10 years because he's,
he's fun. Like, he actually tries and he does make a lot of good plays. Like, he was 26 of 34 for
260 yards and two touchdowns. Just please nobody look at the two picks and the fumble. That's, right?
Like, he actually moved the ball. 80% of the plays were good. It's just that the 20% that aren't
good are like the worst plays you've ever seen in your entire life. And that's, that's obviously
something coaches.
Coaches would way rather,
and I get it, right?
My job doesn't depend on Will Levis.
I wouldn't want my job to depend on Will Levis.
Like, that would not be fun.
I'm nervous enough with my $50 dynasty team
depending on Will Levis.
You think I want my job, my career,
my family, depending on Will Levis?
Absolutely not.
I don't fucking want that.
That sounds terrible.
So the point being is that
Brian Callahan's of the world
would rather have a player who's worse
than Will Levis marginally
70% of the time,
but just avoids looking like,
the biggest dumb ass you've ever seen in your life one to two times per game um yeah that's that's what
people want three straight weeks of a will levis meme is a gift from the football gods he's got a
more to be at until mason rudolph non memes i think i think levis gets three i i legitimately
think will levis gets three more weeks because this week they should be able to run the ball with
paulard spears would be another week healthier little play action calvin ridley has been dead
Hopkins is coming back.
He looked great.
And that was a phenomenal catch by him as well.
It was a phenomenal catch.
But yeah, that's just a lot of stuff that we noticed.
Yeah, I'm excited for football.
I mean, Justin Field had a decent game.
But you know who didn't?
George Pickens, because that's what happens.
We're going to take a quick break.
And we come back.
Pickens is actually someone I want to talk about later
because Jacob was all about him last week.
And I said he was going to go out and do what?
10 points.
That's just his future except for like three games.
But let's talk about it because his value right now is going up.
Let's talk about it.
We need Arthur Smith to get a head coaching job, leave Pittsburgh.
Oh my God.
Never again.
Please don't ever work.
You're one of our most valuable employees.
You've got promoted.
Oh, God.
No, no.
Because that means Mike Tomlin's gone and that makes me sad.
No, no, not head coach.
He'll go somewhere else to be head coach.
After he gets a 13 and 4 season out of Justin Fields,
some team will bring in Smith,
will bring in Fields, you know?
No, please don't do this.
He's somehow managed to make Fields like a bad fantasy asset every week,
but this one when Austin's now running in like a 50-yard touchdown.
Justin Fields being a game manager, right?
Like, I heard a great take from Davis Maddock on ADP chasing their talking about Fields.
Like, the least likely of all the options was Fields starting,
but then also just like just being a boring game manager,
which is the world we're living in.
And I think it's like, I think Davis was right.
Like he was just saying like, this is his last chance to leave football with generational
wealth.
And like he has just realized he's like, look, I know that I can do fun things.
I tried to do fun things.
The NFL doesn't want me to be fun.
But right now I can just run Arthur Smith's shitty offense.
and I can run QB power 13 times.
And I can throw the same stupid little routes to Michael Pruitt
that are called upon instead of scrambling for 50 yards.
And when I need to throw it away, I'm going to throw it away.
And I can just do that for 17 games.
And then I will make generational wealth playing football.
And yes, I would trade for Zach Moss, Tyler,
but I don't know what you're saying.
You have to give up.
So it's hard for me to answer that question.
He's run the ball 14 times in week one,
8 for 27 and then 6 for 6 with a touchdown.
He's Josh McCown.
How did this happen?
I don't know.
Like I said, quick break.
We come back, Discord questions.
We're diving right in with more dynasty points on the other side of this break.
We've got some people in the chat and we want to shout them out.
Obviously, Toronto, Dave.
Kevin said, damn, he was cooking.
He was cooking.
We did get there.
Thea said Bryce Young finally hit his target and took out Jacob.
He was watching the show,
systematically took him out.
Would you get Moss to play him over Ford?
Yeah, again, 100%.
I know what you're giving up.
Tyler,
just curious if this is a talk show or do you answer questions?
Just curious.
We do.
I mean,
we do both.
This is a talk show,
but we also answer questions.
I think it's more of a rant show.
It is kind of a ranch show.
Then there's some talking in between the rants.
Right.
Absolutely.
The real answer, though, is if you do post a question, we will answer all of them.
We just might not answer it instantaneously.
We're going to go through our segments, very loosely structured segments.
And then the show does better with the segment.
We'll come back from a little break.
And then we're going to answer whatever questions were posted in the meantime.
Where you can always thrive under a lack of accountability.
Yeah, that's right.
I continuously try to put this show in a box.
And I go, look, guys, this is our timeline.
We have hard outs here.
These are the only things we're going to talk about.
And then we spend 18 minutes in an opening segment,
supposed to be quick thoughts and end up talking about Justin Fields being closer
to Josh McCown than Lamar Jackson this year.
We never know what the show is going to do.
What's in the box?
What's in the box?
What's the move with Swift?
put them in a box and send them down river
I don't want them on my roster anymore
it's over Kyle says it's
a rant slash agenda show
agreed
is that a Michael Scott
quote I fear it is Joever
for the Andre Swift it is you go with 13
carries for 20 yards against the Colts
it's over it's football Colts
what was the three straight runs
135 yards rushing and a half
against the Packers with
Malik Willis
time to learn
Guantong Tigers, buddy.
That's bad enough,
like not even to get in the CFL.
Raquale Armstead is in the CFL right now,
lighting it up.
And I don't think DeAndre Swift could do that.
Okay, let's get,
I was going to say,
if you want more questions answered, Tyler,
you can do that in the Dynasty Points,
but it gets the Fantasy Points Discord
in the Dynasty Points section.
We're going to take some questions
like these questions.
right here.
Brian.
254th and Swift and you get nothing.
You're just getting tap relief.
I love that.
Brian B-13 has a couple of questions.
Why do all tight ends beside Bauer suck?
Is this related to QB suckage?
I love how he worded this question.
Is tight-end premium dead?
My two-start tight-end league is freaking the funk out
with, of course,
patented LOL.
Couple of questions here.
Tight ends in the top 25 of war
for tight end premium leagues.
It's really not good,
as Luke has put here.
Five in the top 50,
also not good.
And three tight ends in the top 50 in targets
week one,
nine in week two,
five in week three.
Tight end is
bad.
Why is it bad?
Like, what do we do knowing that
are we like I rolled out,
let's just set the scene.
I rolled out Mark Andrews last week, and he got a zero.
Sorry.
There was nothing out there.
I played Goddard over Andrews on pure gut in the home league, and I felt like a mechamined.
I felt like absolute mega mind.
I saw that.
I saw that.
Terrible.
I got a zero.
There was nothing put out that this was going to be a thing.
This is a dope matchup for them because the wide receivers.
J. Fly was at, what, two balls?
like what do this offense do i watched the game that i couldn't figure it out and a 26% target share
yeah and two screen passes that was his day like truly unbelievable so there was nothing to do so
now at this point now we're scared to start around five tight ends because of a literal zero
let's talk about tight ends because i'm losing my mind here i don't get it i think the craziest
thing is just that we're coming off of last season where we're talking about this
Titan resurgence because we have Kinkeme coming into the league.
We have McBride coming into the league, LaPorta coming into the league.
And aside from McBride, you've been really disappointed if you went like tightened
early.
It's not even really that Abby of McBride.
Like his usage is good.
So it's like you can see how it gets better.
But it hasn't even really been that great.
No.
Yeah.
You're just hoping that whoever you put in gets a touchdown because they're only going to get two
targets.
And I don't know.
I didn't have enough time.
I wanted to pull in some of like the red zone work because at least the bingles have
been using tight ends in the red zone.
They've just had some drops and some penalties.
But it's it's just so weird.
I'm not enough of a football savant to understand if the coverages that they're pulling
right now are just taking away.
Patrick Mahomes was saying that Travis Kelsey doesn't have a large stat line because he has
three or four defenders on them pretty much every play, which I mean,
it's really good if you got Rashi Rice,
but it's,
it's, it's been weird.
Let's just talk about tight ends with the total points here.
All right. Dallas got her number one off one game.
Brock Bowers number two.
He's been the most consistent.
Like, he's been the most consistent.
Cole Kometh is number three.
Isaiah likely off of one game is number four.
Mike Gisicki one game.
George Kittle missed a game.
And then Trey McBride,
who now is a concussion he left
Hunter Henry
one game
Zach Ertz
slow painful death by a thousand cuts
Kyle Pitts had one game
where he had 50 yards
Dalton Kincaid caught a touchdown
that was blatantly holding
and wasn't called mind you but touchdown in the back
of the end zone and ran half the routes
and then Pat Friar Mewth and Jake Ferguson
who played one and a half games
is 13. Jake Ferguson
right now looks like
the most hopeful tight end to me
with how Dallas ran the offense through him.
He looked unbelievable against Baltimore,
burning Roquan multiple.
To me, Jake Ferguson is like the tight end I'm hopeful for.
It's a fucking nightmare.
So I think there's a few things to work.
I mean,
and probably some that I can't explain.
But if I'm trying to figure out the why are tight ends all failing,
part of it's just bad luck.
Like, Djoku got hurt immediately, Kittle got hurt.
McBride's now hurt.
Am I missing another injury?
Oh, LaPorte got hurt this week too.
So a lot of the ends are hurt.
That sucks.
He'll look like he was going to be a smash, right?
Like he'll started hot and then they lose Devo and McCaffrey and then he pulls a hamstring.
So that's a massive bummer.
And then in Joku actually got off to a pretty good start in week one, two, and then he gets hurt immediately.
So some of that, Ferguson, too, missed injury.
Evan Ingram.
I forgot Conklin who had a great game.
Yeah, Engram got hurt too.
So, yeah, some of its injury stuff.
I think that another issue is, like, you look specifically at some of the tight ends that we,
would typically like to invest in, like Andrews, Kelsey, and Leporta, are three that come to mind
as tight ends who are in a pretty suboptimal spot where the best wide receiver on their team
operates in the same area of the field as they do, right? Where you have flowers, rice,
and almond raw as these kind of non-traditional wide receiver ones who operate at low A-Ds.
And if you're going to throw, you know, typically when you think of
the platonic ideal of the tight end, right?
It's like Tyree Kill is winning deep down the field
and Travis Kelsey is winning underneath.
But like when the wide receiver that you're running the offensive
is winning underneath and they're better at it than the tight end is,
makes it really hard as a tight end to then step up and score a ton.
And then I also think you just have,
Travis Kelsey's probably just kind of washed.
And then Mark Andrews is probably either washed
or hurt from a car accident or hurt from his ankle.
injury last year. And I don't really know what percentage of which, but I just can't imagine that
if this was two years ago, Mark Andrews, from a talent perspective, that the Ravens are ever
designing a game plan that results in him running six pass routes. Like that, that just doesn't
make any sense to me. So something is rotten in the state of Denmark on that one. And then if there's
like one kind of like broader football guy you take I have about this, it's that I think that as
teams are trying to run the ball more as part of this overall response meta because you'd think, right,
oh, everybody's playing deep with these deep shells. That's going to be great for tight ends,
right? They're just getting able to eat underneath. I think one issue that we're running into
is teams want to run the ball more. And because of that, they want to run the ball with tight ends who can
block. And I think it's really, and then they also don't want to just be the same, or they don't want
to be the Broncos, right, where they're just advertising based on what person
they trot onto the field, whether it's a run play or a pass play on every single snap.
So they're struggling with what do we do with these kind of tweener tight ends?
This I think really affects Pitts and Kincaid, where it's like these guys are receiving
weapons, but they're just not really viable blockers.
And how do we then get them to these high route shares when without just telling the defense
basically every time they're on the field, it's a pass, when we sell them off the field
to run?
Like, do we just eat it in the run game, having a bad blocker?
Do we eat it in the passing game?
having a guy who can't run as many routes,
and they kind of do a little bit of both.
So you end up with some of the talented tight ends,
receiving laws that can be a little bit more dynamic,
just end up with these pretty shitty route shares
because teams are wanting to establish it.
So I think it's a whole bunch of things.
I don't know that it's going away.
Like I'm not that optimistic, I guess, really,
about any of these tight ends,
with the exception of like Bowers McBride
and I guess Jake Ferguson.
and Goddard for as long as Smith and E.J. Brown are out.
Saints can't cover a crossing route to save their damn life.
So, yeah, all that stuff.
All that being said, I do have one rant about the tight end position.
It's that if you are the person going on Twitter,
trying to remove the tight end position from fantasy,
you are a loser and you are scared to compete.
And it's as simple as that.
there are two answers to the whole oh my god tight ends aren't scoring thing well look one
if tight ends aren't scoring at all you don't have to draft one early you can just stream it
draft one late say fuck the position or you can say no tight ends are scoring boy if one did score
it sure would be a big positional advantage let me take the shot either you play the risk reward game
or you punt but that's an interesting strategic choice we have four positions in fantasy
If you play in one quarterback league, we basically have three.
You want to remove one of those?
Because, oh, my God, oh, I drafted a tight.
And he has a 60-burt that route rate.
No.
Get your ass up off the couch.
Run the waiver wire.
Pick a damn tight end.
Take your 2.9 points and like it.
He's that fantasy football.
Yeah.
I agree.
That's very well said.
I couldn't have said that better myself.
A big, big shout out to Jacob on that one.
I saw that this week, and we do this every year.
There's always somebody every year.
Like, we see, we see the questions.
We will get to them in a little bit.
We do have another one.
This one kind of feeds into the last one a little bit or feeds off of, not feeds into,
I can't even speak today.
Why are there so many mid-QBs this season?
He says, or maybe I have them all.
Seeing so many points in the eight and 12s, don't remember that before,
is that all the defense in cover?
or two shell or lack of preseason.
Lucas, you have 18.7 points for QB12 in 2020.
17.2 for QB12 in 2024.
16 versus 13.3.3.2 points for QB24.
That's crazy.
There's obviously a drop off.
And I think I have an easy answer for this and just touchdowns.
We continue to hit record lows in touchdowns scored.
thrown by quarterbacks.
And yeah, some of it is variance.
The running backs getting it more at the one.
I think that is going to come around.
I don't know if this is a shell thing,
because some offenses can burn right by it.
Right?
We talked about it.
Sam Donald right now looks like a top 10 quarterback in the NFL.
Derek Carr, aside from last week, look lights out.
Brock Purdy ran the ball 13 or 10 times last week
and was absolutely diming it up for Joanne.
like we're seeing some stuff.
I think it's some of the bigger names that are not scoring that I think is part of the problem.
But you had that tweet the other day where it was McShanahan, McSanahan, McSanahan, HyperMobile.
McSanahan, McSanahan, HyperMobile.
It's still kind of the same if you look at the top now, except DAC is kind of back in the mix.
I think overall the quarterback play has been the same as it has been.
I feel like it's magnified right now because,
of how little the offenses are actually putting out at the moment.
I think the quarterback play has been the same.
The talent is the same.
But this year, Konami Code matters and what system matters.
Right now, it's about system.
We hammered that early in this offseason throughout the offseason.
And then I have hammered that with the late quarterback strategy.
Since this podcast has existed, I have been talking about picking up the late quarterback.
Like, because again, let's look at the late guys.
Baker, Daniel Jones,
Gino Smith, Derek Carr, Matt Stafford,
smashes for what they're giving you compared to kind of what we're seeing at the top.
So let's talk about it.
Quarterbacks, Jacob, you kind of hit this earlier.
Yeah, I ran, I had a bit earlier.
I ran about the tight ends and I don't want to do the classic Jacob move
of saying I have a hard out and then eating up all the time.
So I agree.
I think the biggest issue is just that there's less time.
touchdowns. And so there's thus going to be less quarterback production. And, and there's,
the quarterbacks are less effective in real life. So I think you mostly nailed it. We also talked
about a lot, a lot last week, right? If you're at this point, if you're investing in a
quarterback, you either want them to run a lot or you want them to play in a very advantageous
environment. Because right now what we're not seeing a lot of is pocket based quarterbacks
overcoming adverse circumstances to produce fantasy points in the way that we might have four,
or five, six years ago.
So that's, I think, the big thing.
Yeah, agree.
It's not just passing touchdowns.
There's fewer rushing touchdowns right now, too.
There's only three quarterbacks in the NFL who have multiple rushing touchdowns
through three weeks, which just feels incredibly low.
Like, Jalen Hertz, who had 15 last season, he's only sitting at one right now.
It looks so bad.
Yeah, it just seems so weird.
Malik Willis has a rushing touchdown.
He won't even have that if Jordan Love were healthy.
so I don't know
Bo Nix has two
rushing touchdowns
and that's it
yeah that's the only thing
keeping him alive though
in terms of any sort of production
like he's above quarterback 24 right now
at 14.2 fantasy points per game
because he has two rushing touchdowns
that's crazy you could literally just play a receiver
like oh quarterback sucks
so bad right now and it really hurts my brain
you're right though you're absolutely right
it's just general lack of production
And I expect this to uptake at some point.
So I do think it's going to get better throughout the season.
I mean, I think we've seen over our last two seasons with the condensed preseason that at least the first week output has been lower both years.
So I don't think that that's a coincidence.
Having time to go up against actual defenses, it helps your offensive output.
It helps you get more comfortable, helps you develop a rhythm with your wide receivers and understand how to operate on game days.
Like that doesn't take a lot of brain power to get.
to that point.
We'll see as the season keeps going on.
I do expect it to pick up.
We did see a lot of movement this week with some of the core backs sneaking into
top 30 in terms of their overall value to your team.
I have a feeling we'll see a couple more sneak up before the end of the season.
It is just wild, though.
And this is having repercussions on all the other positions, except for running backs
who are just eating and get up.
Right.
And again, they're getting the touchdowns inside the one.
So like, like you said, a lot of those could be fades, tap passes, whatever, right?
So it's interesting.
We got one from Vunderbeard.
And I got to tell you that this entire time, until I typed this out, I thought it was Vunderbred.
But Vunderbeard makes a lot more sense, given your profile picture.
Can you guys go over on the weekly pod what we're doing with Rashad White in Dynasty right now,
panic selling for any second that I can get?
It looks bleak.
Bucky is the man.
I've been hammering Bucky pretty much all offseason.
A few of us have been.
We said week six,
it may not get there.
We may not,
we may not get to week six at this point before his job is taken.
What do we do with Rashad White,
who is still going to be on the team next year?
Is this just a split?
Is this just a receiving role?
What do we do with them right now?
I'll go to Jacob.
Yeah, I mean, he's like a high-end flex play maybe.
I mean, he still played 71% of the snap last week.
He still clearly plays the receiving role
for the team.
I think this will be a more gradual shift than people maybe think in less of like it's going
to flip overnight type of situation.
Mostly because I do think that White, as bad at the use as a rusher, is a genuinely good
receiving back and he's the more trusted pass protector.
So, and Buck is also small.
So I think it's a chance White could keep goal line work longer than people necessarily
want him to.
So my expectation going forward as we start to see that 70-30 snap rate, get close
or a 60-40 to a 55-45.
I think Bucky starts to lead in carries.
Well, he already led and carries last week,
but I think that that continues to be a trend
over the next few weeks.
And White is basically going to have to get there
through receiving volume.
So I don't know.
I would probably treat him kind of like similar
to how you treat like an Austin Echler or something.
Yeah.
Where it's like it's a flex play on receiving volume,
but the idea of him being a workhorse back,
probably not really in the cards.
Yeah.
I think Bucky's really eating into his receiving workload more than any other backup running back would be at this point in time.
And I mean, Bucky does not yet.
Bucky does have that skill set going back to his college days at Oregon.
But Rishad White, he is a really good receiving running back.
We've always known that.
We know that he's not necessarily the best running the ball running back that's out there.
We've lived with it because they didn't have anyone else to go and take those carries away from him last season.
And there is value in having a receiving running back on your roster.
So I don't think that he's a priority sell by any means right now.
You're only selling him if you were going to sell him regardless because you were trying to tank.
Like, I don't think you have to go out of your way, especially now whenever his value is at like an all time low.
Him just purely being a receiving back isn't going to hurt his value more than it's currently at.
So I'm just kind of sitting there.
And also it's kind of on you.
we're expecting more like we've known this now for yeah for a couple of seasons i i think we're all
a little bit surprised that bucky has taken the role that he has he's really kind of like
seized it earlier that i think a lot of people would have suspected so good on bucky for doing that
but i mean that if you've been listening to this podcast or several other dynasty related shows
you should have been seeing this coming i'll just put in perspective bucky has passed rashad white
on keep trade cut.
So if you know someone in your league
that is a keep trade cut
doer if you would
and uses it regularly,
apparently you can still go and get
Aaron Jones, Tony Pollard,
and Najee Harris
for Rashad White straight up.
And I just would.
If you want more points
and more opportunity for lead guys,
that would be my option.
Those are three questions we pick
from the Discord this week.
We usually ask every couple of weeks
if somebody has any questions
they went from us that was that.
When we come back, we're going to talk some wide receivers,
and we're going to get out of here at like a crisp hour and five,
which is we have not done in a very long time.
So sit tight,
we'll be right back.
Okay,
should I trade Pollard and Goddard for Mike Evans?
I'm assuming that's a redraft question.
My answer is no.
I would say no.
Not right now.
It's like so hard for me to answer a redraft question
without knowing like a lot of specifics about the team.
He says he has pits as well.
Right.
I would rather just play Goddard and redraft.
I mean, yeah, probably like, I don't know, is it like half PBR?
Is it kind of, like, if it's like a half PPR, no premium, like, standard Yahoo League, sure.
Because, like, I just don't think Goddard outside of maybe the next couple weeks,
if he has an opportunity without Brown and Smith is going to score that many more points than
pits or anyone, frankly.
So it's like I, yeah, but I just think Goddard, like, in a standard half PPR league,
like, Goddard's going to score like seven points of the game.
So I just, like, don't think it really matters to your tight end is.
if you're between Goddard and Pitts, because I don't think any of them are going to score that much.
So I would rather just have the better asset between Evans and Pollard, which I think is Evans.
But if this is like a full PPR, tight end premium league, then Goddard probably adds an edge of the very least in the short term because probably no Smith this week.
And we'll see you on Brown.
Well, if you still have pits, I'm still taking advantage of the value that Goddard has after his monster game and moving game.
I'm like, sure, you'd love to get a couple more games out of them.
But I would like to upgrade from Pollard into Evans,
especially if you are dealing with injuries at the wide receiver position,
then absolutely doing it.
In my article I wrote last week,
I said that I would trade Goddard for Echler straight up.
That one kind of hurts this week,
but I still stand by at least the initial premise of,
if you have tied in depth, depth this year,
and you can take advantage of that to go and upgrade
and provide value at other positions.
go ahead and do it.
Right.
I agree.
Would you trade Cooper for Terry?
I would not know.
Give me my Cooper.
I would not.
I don't think I really want to be involved in the Browns offense if I can avoid it.
Cooper's expected fantasy points for game were very high.
Yeah.
And then it finally came through this week.
I'm not abandoning.
I'm not abandoning Mari Cooper just yet.
They have three receiver,
three of the top four receivers in the NFL right now for targets are on the Cleveland
Browns.
That's not changing.
They are passing.
I mean,
show up to the Denver passing.
I do think it'll change a little bit when a joke who comes back in a couple weeks.
Well,
but I mean,
Amari has still been Amari this year in terms of his target,
his target percentage and everything else.
A couple of drops this year.
Sure.
If he doesn't drop two passes this year,
we look at him differently.
I'm not doing it.
Yeah,
I mean, his usage is going to stay great.
I feel like that might be like, with their pass rate and how bad Watson looks,
maybe they flip to.
But let's also not.
It solves the problem.
But I wonder like how,
I just feel like the Browns is it's going to be.
be a year-long thing of like, oh, boy, look at the expected fantasy points.
I think, I don't know if we expect.
I think Watson can't play.
Like, I hear everything you're saying.
Terry McClaren season turned around on only two catches that were in single coverage
on amazing throws.
Like, his outlook is still bleak.
Like, it was like negative 1.8 yards, the targets on that offense for wide receivers up until
this week.
And the Bengals are bad.
Like, I want the number one.
receiver on an offense, even if it's kind of bad.
That's, that's, that's just me.
That says how I'm playing.
Start DAC or Baker.
You're starting DAC.
Like, Dak just,
Dak is DAC.
He's unreal good.
We have a ton of more questions.
We have more content that we had planned to get to.
We're going to dive back into that.
If we get any more time, we'll answer some questions.
I like this one.
I love this.
Kevin.
I want to answer that one today, at least.
we're going to get
okay so this is what we're going to do
we're going to change the outline of the show
we've got
we got 20 minutes left
on this program
I want to spend 10 minutes
talking about the variance of wide receivers
because we talked a lot about
JSNJMO etc
that group of receivers
then I want to take 10 minutes
and talk about this
cool let's do that
stick around Kevin we're going to answer this
to end the show that's going to be
the sign off
today well as I mentioned
wait
Lucas, how many breaks have I hit?
We've hit two breaks.
Okay, so we need to hit one more break.
You're going to give me the head nod.
Yeah, we're going to take a quick break.
And we come back because we're businessmen.
We're men of the company.
Much to Jacobs discussed.
We're going to hit our last break and then we're going to come back.
We're company men, damn it.
All right, let's talk about wide receivers.
Let's talk about some wide receivers.
I talked to my article that I'm buying high on Jameson Williams.
I don't regret that.
Is this a weird game for the lions?
The offense just looked terrible.
But JSN once again regressed.
He had a 94.6% route participation.
Only a 4.3a dot again.
7.6% air yard share.
He had 13 air yards.
He had less than 9% in his target share,
a 10% first read, 3 for 39.
This is the 2% for 25 from Applebee's
with an appetizer.
on top. He was out
targeted by Tyler Lockett 8 to 3. So this
is just week one again.
Is this what JSN is destined
to be? You kind of said this. And then
we talked about Jameson Williams who had a game
like he had last year. We can talk about the
other guys. I think the
who is the other one? Flowers like we just mentioned
game script wide receiver
zone beater.
There's one of these guys that is kind of
in this
range of receivers that I
think is kind of better than all of them is
Jaden Reed because he's actually the wide receiver one on that offense.
Just the way that it looks to me.
He's another zone beater, big play guy.
To me, these four wide receivers are all kind of the same.
Are we still hopeful?
Are we still buying and we're just accepting that these wide receivers are going to have variances
because they're not the top dogs?
Because these guys are all rising up and keep trade cut on like by the day.
Yeah, Reed is fine.
They need Jordan Loveback, but volume's terrible with Malik Willis,
although he's obviously played way better in real life than anyone would have expected.
It's not good fantasy value with the wide receivers.
I don't really have concerns about Jaden Reed.
If he struggles with love, I'll have concerns,
but I think it happens pretty easily explained.
Flowers, too.
I have no concerns.
His role was incredible the first two weeks.
And, I mean, like, he had a very meaningless 26% target share this week because they threw 15 times.
But, like, again, the reason he busted is because they threw 15 times.
We kind of busted in week one, too.
10 targets for 37 yards is a bust.
That's a terrible.
That's a terrible game.
24 fantasy man.
That's 10 fantasy points right there.
That's not fun.
That's a down.
For a guy moving up, keep trade cut rankings, that's a terrible game.
I just think, I mean, that's a 10 target game right there.
Like his role is gimmicky.
So it's going to be what it's going to be.
But that's what I'm saying.
From a volume perspective, it's there.
And I mean, the bull is the most bullish thing for Zay Flowers is that,
Mark Andrews appears to be just like not a factor.
So,
yeah,
makes me sad.
This whole passing off edge flows through Zayflowers right now.
Like none of these other guys,
I think are really threats to his command of the volume in the offense.
And they're going to have,
they're not going to average 15 pass attempts every week.
So I,
very on flowers,
men on read.
J.S.
Ben and JMA are way harder to make sense of because we just don't have a long
enough track record of them.
So it's hard.
It's going to flip our perception.
Like,
you never want to be too reactive to one game samples,
but we just don't have enough of a sustained sample with these guys
to not have to react to some extent to one game inputs
because each thing is really changing a lot of our perception about these guys.
JSN is weird because the whole year you look at the sample,
it looks reasonably encouraging,
but it's all based off of that one game.
And you just have to try to decide, like,
is there a weird sequencing thing where if you just smooth out his production more evenly,
it would look encouraging, or is it just they gotten some weird matchup and meet two against New England that they attacked and that's not going to be indicative of anything going forward.
And I just don't know.
So like I'm kind of back to where I was, I guess, before the season with JSN, which is just like good prospect, great prospect, good offense and hasn't proved it yet.
So like I don't know.
Like there still seems like he has a lot of truthers there, right?
Like I haven't seen a lot of negative JSN speak from his people.
that people like JSN are still riding high.
So if you could still sell him at his price from a week ago,
I would at least be interested.
But I'm not going to deny his upside either.
Jameson probably somewhere between.
I probably am a little bit less worried about him than JSN because, again,
weird game.
They threw like 23 passes.
And there's so many targets in this offense.
There's so many playmakers in this offense that one of them is always going to wind up
getting left up on a week-to-week basis.
So Jameson is going to have a week.
like this in the future, I still think I weigh what we've seen over the whole season a little bit more.
JSED's probably the one that I'm most worried about because that that was like, the idea was,
is last week the start of something new or is it just going to go down as one weird outlier?
When you come back off of that and it's three targets again, it's like maybe it's just, maybe it's just an outlier.
But I could then change my mind again literally next week if he comes back at its target's
that point is what I want to talk about because I had somebody.
ask me about your rankings versus mine.
I just finished my tier chart update.
I posted that over the weekend.
And somebody said,
why do you have player X a little bit higher than where Jacob is,
where he's moving down like two tiers already?
And I said because I want to see it.
Like I still want to,
I didn't move JSN up two tiers after that last game.
Not saying you did.
I just want to say that there's a very different kind of set of philosophies here.
That's not like,
you know.
where I think Dynasty on a week-to-week basis can be extremely reactionary.
And I think that can be dangerous.
I can be dangerous for your rosters.
That can be dangerous for your futures.
I did write in my article that I'm comfortable buying high on Jameson Williams.
And on this program, I said, I asked last week,
if he busts, are you still going to be as happy trading that 25 first?
If what happened this week ended up happening and guess what had happened?
So everyone that would have traded those draft picks,
this is going to tie into that buying that 25 first theory.
do what I'm doing here as a professional.
I'm tying these last two things in here
because we're good at what we do.
But I was just as comfortable moving that 25 first still.
I don't have any regrets because that was baked into it.
I think us as a dynasty community need to stop treating this game like redraft.
Right?
We have signals and we have tells that give us the information we use moving forward.
Is it more likely that last week was, I think I'm saying it's the aborician.
it's an outlier game for them.
They threw it 23 times.
The offense looked rough.
That's not what this offense does on a regular basis.
So those targets are going to go back up.
Eight, nine targets.
Laporte is hurt.
We can expect kind of a rebound game.
JSN, I still don't know.
I still don't know.
I have no idea.
But I'm still confident that he's not going to go three for 39 all year.
Because they showed that he can be used and be good.
It's just how is it going to fit in.
Okay?
So we can expect it as dynasty values,
probably going to sit where it is, his usage.
Mike, I called him West Coast, Chris Godwin.
I'm probably thinking that's where he's going to end up.
So we'll see.
But yeah, I'm very happy with all these guys still.
I think I'm buying the hardest on Reed.
I think I'm the lowest on flowers.
But like Jacobs likes to point out,
I can't hate your favorite team because I hate my own favorite team the most.
Just that usage.
They're all just kind of gadgety guys.
at the end of the day.
But James and Williams so far is the target guy out of the group.
So I guess he's the one, but how I'm treating them,
exactly the same as I was last week.
And that's what's important.
We cannot go week to week flip-flopping on our values as harshly and as quickly.
We have to absorb that new information.
And yes, eventually make a decision.
There's a little too much flip-floppy in Dynasty.
And I'm of the, let's relax a little bit and not.
be incredibly too hasty, whereas being
hasty, as you've mentioned before, Jacob, it can be extremely
beneficial. If you are hasty and buying
Pooka Nukuwa on those signals, great.
It paid off for you.
None of these are the same signals.
Disappoint. These aren't rookies.
These aren't, by the way, shout out the rookie receivers.
I mean, keep trade cut, wide receiver three,
Marvin Harrison, wide receiver four,
Malik neighbors.
Insane what those guys are doing.
But that ties it in.
That ties it into buying the 25 first.
Let's talk about how we're feeling
about buying the 25 first
and what the general philosophy is
for dynasty because I don't want
to be moving my first in trades
I would rather be sending players
to get players
and picks to
hold my values as long as I can
so let's let's shake this up a bit
Jacob yeah moving 25 ones
so first off
I think that the first question
is why right
so the issue with moving
draft picks and dynasty
is that they are an asset that has
universal value, right? We just talked about a bunch of other young assets on the show, Flowers,
Williams, JSN, Reed, that all of us have a little bit different opinions about, right? If you come
offer me, Zay Flowers, that probably has a reasonable amount of appeal. If you offer Tom's Day Flowers,
probably not quite as much. But if you offer me at 251, you offer Tom a 251, we're both going to have
roughly the same amount of interest in that because it has that universal currency. That makes
picks to me a more valuable trade asset because they're so scarce in terms of what kind of things
can offer you that level of flexibility than what their actual value is if you hold them over
time, right? Even if you've decided for whatever reason, and I'll get into that in a second,
this is going to be the Dynasty 101 this week. I can already, I've decided on it just now in this
moment. Once you've made the decision, I'm going to move my 25-1, right? I still think you have to value
it almost higher than its actual value because you only get to fire that bullet once,
right?
Every other move that you make to improve your team, you're going to have to somehow find
someone to take on some player that they like.
And that's going to be a little bit harder to do because there might only be one or
two managers that are particularly interested in buying the player that you want to sell.
Or you're going to have to move production out of your lineup to get production into your
lineup.
And that can be sometimes counterproductive.
So the only time you get to fire that easy button of I'll just give you a pick and you give me production is one time or if you have multiple firsts more than that.
So I think you have to value it very highly.
And I also think you have to look at your team and decide am I a team that should be moving my 25 one?
And that is to say, basically, to me, you can either have too good of a team to move it or not good enough the team to move it.
If you already have a super team, you're already going to probably get a buy your three and no or six and no.
depending on any of your scoring settings, you have the most points in your league,
I'm probably not moving my one because at that point in time,
I've already kind of achieved everything that I can achieve from the production front of Dynasty.
I'm going to get a buy.
I'm going to have a dominant team and I'm going to have a chance to win the league.
That's kind of all you can do.
At that point, it's just a matter of can you win two weighted coin flips in a row
come January, come December to win your league.
And it's going to be a maybe, maybe not situation.
the best thing you can do for your team at that point is to find ways to lengthen your competing
window as long as you can. And that means probably holding on to that first. Also, you do not want to be
the team that is like, I was all in on contending this year. I have all these old dudes. Now I'm one and two
and I'm seventh in points. What am I going to do? I have no choice. I've got to trade my 25.1.
You don't want to be putting bad money after good or good money after bad. You don't want to be following
them to the sunk cost fallacy. So really the only scenario where I'd be moving my 25-1 as a contender
right now is a scenario where you have a high-value team and you've probably either just
sort of underperformed your potential or you've suffered some injuries. And it's getting to the
point where if you don't add a lot of juice on your team right now, you're going to lose your
chance to compete for that buy. But you trade that first in now. You're going to have a chance
to be for that buy, and very importantly, you have the value that you can sustain
losing that first and still be okay in the future.
Those are the scenarios where I want to use that trade chip.
I have an example.
That's exactly what I did, Jacob.
In the Dynasty League that I have gone back to back, and I'm currently playing you
this week, actually, for number one overall supremacy, is the team that I traded my 25
first away to go and get Jameson Williams.
and I went and got another quarterback in that deal as well.
That is exactly what that is.
I felt like I couldn't have Terry McLaren be my wide receiver three on that team.
And I needed some upside.
And this week I looked like a donkey because Terry McLaren outscored Jameson.
So that was fun.
But that is exactly that situation.
I know where my points are.
I'm at that top two, three.
We've gone back to back.
My roster is a bunch of old dudes.
But I know that by the end of the year,
I'm not dropping past more than fourth unless my team implodes anyway.
we can't predict those kind of things.
So that is an absolutely perfect situation,
perfect example for something that happened in one of our own leagues.
We're talking it.
We're walking it like we talk it.
Lucas,
anything to add before we do player picks really fast and get out of here?
Yeah,
so this might be a little bit too nuanced,
especially with the 25 class.
I think Jacobs point really extends to any year,
any one that you have.
But I think really with this class,
if you are in dire need of quarterback help,
I am much more willing to move my 25-1, just because it's not projected to be loaded at
quarterback.
We know it's going to be historic running back class.
The wide receiver class looks solid.
It's just, it's really weak at quarterback.
So if you do have a chance to use your 25-1 to upgrade at that position or potentially
maybe you screwed up or you have an injury and you can go and get another quarterback,
then I would be using your 25-1 to go and do that.
There's like I like everything else that you all said, but that that's the position group that I really would want to be targeting with it.
Because if you go into the offseason and you still have that quarterback need is going to be so much harder to use your 25.1 once we start hearing way about these prospects than it would be right now.
I am still very much as they go acquire 27s because going to acquiring picks as far back out as you can is always the cheapest way to get them.
totally fine with that. And on competing
rosters, still okay trading
some of my aging veterans if somebody comes knocking
for them for a first still, even on a competing
team. Keep all your options open.
Let's hit these.
Jacob, you're absolutely, if you guys don't know
this every week, even as a Dynasty show,
we need something to brag about at the end of the year.
We've already been dog walk. This competition
is over. Jacob absolutely
slammed here already.
He is comfortably ahead
by 65 points to
the second place person. But,
absolute God tier run.
Every week we pick a quarterback outside of the top 15,
a running back outside of the top 15,
wide receiver outside of the top 30,
and a tight end outside of the top 12.
And we each pick them.
All four of us, Ryan isn't here.
I have his picks.
We're going to start with his.
But right now it is sitting Jacob at 204.46,
myself at 135.02,
Ryan 105.84,
Lucas at 113.56.
The winner of this gets to pick what his co-host
are drinking.
No questions asked during the live draft show that we generally take over the draft feed
after the rounds are over.
And we discuss the after effects of these rounds once the Brett Whitefield and Scott Barrett's
and Joe Dolans talk themselves away in bed,
us absolute sicko degenerates still go live for multiple hours after that.
So we need to spike something,
spike up the event
just a little bit more.
So it truly means something is on the line here.
Ryan is going with player picks favorite
Gino Smith. He's taking Najee Harris.
He's taking last week's absolute smoke show,
Roma Dunzee.
And he's going back to the hen house with Hunter Henry.
Lucas, you are third.
So let's go with you and your player picks.
This is the most gross it has felt like all season
for me doing these picks.
I'm going with Baker Mayfield.
I'm really nervous about this matchup,
but after quarterback 15,
this is where I felt the most comfortable with,
especially because of who Thomas took.
Then I'm going to try a part of like Jacobs' success last week,
and I'm going to go Moss again against Carolina,
so hoping to get some not only the past game work early,
but potentially maybe Ryan got the clock unless Carolina's just a freak again,
and then maybe even more password.
So I'm going with
His role is good, but man, does Zach Moss suck?
It's shout out to whoever the Bengals draft at running back out of this class this year because oh my God.
Then I'm going to go with Khalil Shakir.
I'm looking for some slot work against Baltimore.
I know he's not Rashi Rice, but if I could get a fraction of that, I'll be happy.
And then.
It's going to hurt going with Zach Ertz.
Just he's been the most consistent out.
of any of the tight ends that aren't in the top 12.
So if I can get eight points, I'll take those eight points all day.
It's better than I think 2.2 or something that I got last week.
Sorry, 3.8, not to hate on John New Smith that much, but it'll be better than the 3.8 I had
last week. So there's my picks.
I like that.
I need a big week.
If I'm good, I thought I was making up ground with the week before.
This week I really sucked.
And you just had an absolute.
bomb week. I want to give you your
flowers here. You pick Kayla Williams
who had 19.3 points. Moss had 20.7.
A Dune's a 23.4
and Gisicki had an 8.7. That's absolutely
filthy and disgusting. But we're bouncing back
this week. I'm taking the red rifle. I feel
most impressed by the 8.7 at tight end.
That feels like hitting the lottery.
Yeah. In this, in this, it is
in the lottery on this show.
Look, I'm going to go with the red rifle.
He's not going to put up the same amount
of points, but I think he's going to have
a good game. Tony Pollard has a really good
matchup and he's getting
the goal line work even though neither
here's a fun stat via the Fantasy Points
Data Suite. Neither Tennessee running back
has a rush inside the five. So
interesting little statistic there. But he
is getting the I guess it called
the Green Zone now, the Go Zone carries.
He is the primary guy
as much as I don't want to admit it.
I need Shaheed to bounce back.
Look, Shaheed,
you cost me my prop bed.
Okay? And I'm really mad about it.
because he would have paid for my golfing that week.
However, I'm going to forgive you, and we're going back to the well.
But listen to me, I need the touchdown.
Okay?
Thank you.
And at tight end, I'm going back to the well.
I'm going with Tyler Conklin because he was lit and I never, I'm sorry that I didn't pick you last week.
Love of my life, Tyler Conklin, you are still indeed the goat.
And he looks, he's got so much drip.
I mean, he is one of the drippiest tight ends.
in the NFL.
I mean, the hair, the number.
Robert Barapian.
The tattoos.
He does.
Yeah, absolutely.
He's swinging the hammer this week.
It's happening for me and my lineup.
Jacob.
Lance Lattister.
God, what a stupid name.
God, I was strong then.
Your mother was a fat horse.
Anyway.
Okay, go ahead.
Robert Barapian icon.
I hope.
I'll be straight up,
that my quarterback running back and receiver that I originally wanted to take were all stolen this
week and I put my picks in last. I wanted to pick actually all of Ryan's picks, Gino, Naji, and Rome.
So if Ryan has a big week, he can just, I don't know, suck on it.
And so anyway, the picks I did end up making were Jordan Love, I'm taking a big risk,
going with the injured player here.
Please don't play.
He was like very close to playing last week.
So I feel 80% sure he's going to play this week.
Tom, I know he wants him to rest, get a nice big goose egg and quarterback.
But I'll take the plunge here.
Chuba Hubbard, going to go with it running back.
Cincinnati Bengals' defense has been a disaster all year.
And Chuba has at least one more week before Jonathan Brooks comes into play.
I think you smoke them if he got him this week.
Christian Kirk, number three.
Not dead.
This was the first time that they had to come into a game, game planning without Evan
Ingram.
And I think that that made a difference for Christian Kirk,
who kind of occupies that slot wall without anyone there.
Hopefully he gets on a big week,
probably also in garbage time again this week.
And then completing my stack with Jordan Love will be Tucker Kraft,
runs a ton of routes.
Looks actually pretty darn good out there.
And we'll see if you can get at the end zone for a team
that I think will have a pretty high team total this week against the Minnesota Vikings.
I've discovered your trick.
It's always having a stack right now.
That is how you've been getting ahead on these stacks.
you truly are a best ball and DFS bro down to your core.
That's the show for today.
We love you all.
Jacob,
what's next for thinking about thinking?
Tom's going to be mad at me because I'm not going to talk about what's coming next to.
I'm thinking I'm going to do a quick rant that's not about fantasy football.
If anyone was following,
sorry,
I feel obliged to bring this up on the program with the platform.
Marcelus Williams,
Marcel's Khalifa Williams was executed today in Missouri.
Missouri, on a conviction of a murder from 1998.
And it was based not on any provable forensic evidence, but on unreliable witness testimony.
18 years later, they tested the forensic evidence, which did not match.
The governor at the time, one year later in 2017, commissioned an inquiry into the conviction,
which lasted up to six years.
And in 2023, that was canceled by the current governor and the attorney general,
the continuation of the execution.
Many Missourans, including the victim's family of the murder in 1998, and the prosecutor's
office appealed today, and prior to today, to have the execution overturned or at least stayed.
That did not happen.
I went as planned.
And while obviously this is a very fun program and normally is, I think, a bright spot
in my day and I hope yours, I do hope that people,
seeing this story, give a moment of thought for how we live in a society that not only kills people who, by all counts, may well be innocent,
but frankly, where we live in a world where we have so much confidence in ourselves,
despite certain proof every single day that what we thought was true or what we thought was right was wrong,
that we still live in a world where we think that it's okay to kill people through a state, organized enterprise,
makes me sick.
And I hope that a case is flagrant and horrible as this results in people
rethinking that over time.
And if there's anything you can do in your communities,
and I'll probably tweet out some resources and stuff later on tonight or tomorrow
towards advocacy groups working to end the death penalty.
I certainly recommend everybody give that some thought this evening.
So thanks for indulging that.
Yeah.
And look.
Be on the lookout.
You can find that at Jacob Sanderson, of course, over on X.
Be on the lookout for it.
Remember to check in on your loved ones.
Even if you're not sure that you need it, I mean, geez, like Jacob said, this time of day, you never know.
And, yeah, be sure to tune with us next week.
If you listen to this tomorrow, leave a comment, leave a like, rate, all of the best things that help us go a really, really long way.
Much love to everybody.
We'll stay in touch.
We'll see in the Discord.
Until next week, clear as full hearts can never lose.
in your best days. Do you're spent tilting. Good night, everybody.
