Fantasy Football Daily - Ask Guru Anything #3 with John Hansen
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It's time to the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoints.com.
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All across the fantasy universe, many of us are taking an all-star break, but not here.
No, no, no, we got the biggest star of them all, the guru.
John Hanson sitting down in the chair, and you can ask him anything, folks.
It's Ask Guru Anything, Powered by Fantasy Points.com.
I'm your host, Brian Drake.
John, the man of the hour, what's going on, my friend?
How is your 4th of July?
We took a little hiatus here to go on some vacations and whatnot.
How's your summer going?
Yeah, it's going pretty well.
It's funny.
I had Rich Gannon on the show a couple of days ago, and he knows the drill, like the
NFL world like, you know, summer short. And it's like, I had him on like, I don't know,
what the hell it was. It was like July 7th. He's like, how was your summer? I'm like, yeah,
it was great. No, it was. But I'll take a little bit of maybe a long weekend or two before it gets
real bad. You know, my birthday is July 31st. So it's like, it's not the best birthday for this business.
because it's like, oh, my birthday, it signifies it's about ready to be go time.
So I will rest up a little bit more, but otherwise I'm ready to rock and roll.
And I know all of our great listeners out there that are watching live YouTube.com slash fantasy points are ready to get up and going because, folks, before you know it, you're going to have your draft here.
It's going to be a Labor Day weekend.
You're going to be in someone's steamy garage.
There's going to be a guy with his shirt off in the corner.
You're drinking warm beers.
Yeah.
I can't wait because fantasy season just means footballs around the corner.
I don't want to wish summer away.
My birthday is at the end of summer too.
I'm August 20th.
But you know what?
Damn it.
Let's get this season here.
I need a redo on my Eagles here.
We got to get back rock and rolling.
And what we like to do here on Ask Guru anything is let you the fans take over.
You steer the ship.
Get in our live chat.
Ask away.
And I will bring up the best and brightest of the questions to,
to John Hanson and we'll get firing away here.
So let's start off right from the top here.
Let me start with this.
Oh, fire away.
Drop or anything like that.
But your eagles, it is interesting because I don't want to disclose where I live,
but let's just say there are numerous very vital cogs for the Philadelphia ebos
who live very close to me.
And they have been known.
Rumor has it in town to be doing a few.
informal little workouts and gatherings.
So I've been riding my e-bike around looking out for it these last couple of weeks here,
but might be the head coach we're talking about.
It might be a couple of big star players.
So, you know, we've got a local connection to me here.
They've done well despite that, though.
I want like really grainy cell phone video.
You in a tree watching like, you know, A.J.
Brown play catch at a high school field.
I told you the Chip Kelly story with the Angeles pizza, right?
Right.
And the San Bradford.
Do I tell it?
No, I don't think we've told that on this pod.
Well, we can't tell us.
It's just, it's just amusing to me.
But anyways, yeah, there was a, you want me to go into it real quick?
Hey, why not?
It's your show.
Are we gathering questions?
Chip Kelly used to live in, in my area, very, very close.
to me. And he used to go with Sam Bradford, too, because they lived in the same street when
Sam was a quarterback for the Eagles to Angelo's Pizza, which has become like this legendary place
in South Philadelphia. And I mean, everybody knows about it now. Well, they were five blocks from my
house 10 years ago. And of course, I'm good at spotting sleepers for fantasy actors and pizza
places. So I'm all in on this place. And he ends up moving, by the way. I tried to franchise
it with him as well like nine years ago. But anyways, when that Sam Bradford trade went down,
my first thought was Labor Day weekend, I guess 2017. I don't even know.
2018. When that trade went down, my first thought was, man, he's going to miss that pie.
I mean, he is going to miss that food because I knew he went there a lot, you know.
Yeah.
So that season, he starts off red hot, 5 and O.
The Vikings roll into Philly.
You remember, it was like 65 years ago, right?
So I text my boy who owns the Angeles pizza, Danny.
I'm like, oh, man, let me know if Sam comes in this weekend or his girl,
picking up some of that pie because if he does, I'm downgrading his ass.
in the projections because they'll be hung over from the pie.
And I didn't hear back from him, but sure enough, Sam crept the bed that day against the Eagles,
who knocked them off the ranks of undefeated, if you recall.
I love it.
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Well, and how about, too, the upgrades to it just over like the last week or two, right?
Like, we've been testing everything for so long that, you know, it's really looking good.
Well, I mean, it is perhaps the most powerful high-end statistical database in existence in that, I mean, look, I don't know everything that PFF has or anything like that, but the levels, the micro-levels that you can get to, let's say, are just unparalleled from what I've seen in terms of filtering.
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you're going to want to get a piece of it. Well, let's jump in. We've got people already blowing up the chat.
That's what we love to see. So let's see. Our guy Carl here is in the chat. He goes, let's get this
chase over Jefferson train going. I'm in lockstep with you this season. Now, everybody in their
brother's got Justin Jefferson is the number one wide receiver. Some have him have the number one
player in fantasy football. But you're on record is saying, you know what, I'm going chase this
season. He's due. He's just that damn good. At the end of the day, maybe it's just splitting
hairs, whichever one you take, but you like Chase over Jefferson. Yeah, I mean,
there's no real, I mean, well, there is a statistical reasoning for it. It's Chase absolutely
smokes Jefferson in terms of scoring touchdowns. You know, so it's obviously, you know,
if I knew that Jamar Chase was going to play 17 games, like, forget about it.
It's no question.
And again, I'm big on catching these guys at the right time, you know, momentum.
I felt it last year.
People say, oh, yeah, whoopty do.
But I don't know.
I had Jefferson at two overall, like in May, whatever, June.
And I guess the market caught up to that somewhat, but I thought, you know,
That was a good advice, basically, like, get this guy in year three, proven a ton, still 23.
You know, it was a new offense.
So I think that was, I leaned toward the positive on that because they were going to move them all over the place.
I think that kind of held up, obviously, even though the offense overall, I thought somewhat underachieved.
It wasn't that great other than Jefferson.
But, you know, just being on the right side of momentum and Chase certainly fits that bill.
I mean, the guy scores a touchdown, you know, 12% of the time he catches a ball, it's a touchdown.
You know, like, pretty ridiculous there.
So, you know, Burrow is the other thing.
I wasn't totally impressed with, you know, the new coaching staff there, O'Connell.
I think the jury is very much still out.
And maybe the Bengal guys, too, you know, maybe they're not that great because they didn't really adjust all that well to the things that defense.
as we're doing. If you notice Burroughs, YPA was way down. So they weren't really making these big
bombs, you know, like so I'm hoping and expecting them to adjust a little bit and unleash Chase a little
bit more. So again, you know, if you just get the timing right of where he enjoys good health,
then he's up, he's more dominant than Jefferson. He really is. He's ridiculous.
Our buddy Sean Rickman on YouTube asks, I'm picking late in the first round and I, for some
reason value Pollard over both Bijon and Nick Chubb.
With the Dallas defense keeping the offense on the field, I envision Pollard
finishing as an RB1. Is this a good idea?
Well, that's a little early for Pollard, though. I mean, sometimes you just,
the draft order and your spot just doesn't line up. What were we talking,
Pollard here? Like late or early second?
Yeah, this guy's getting him at the end of the first round. I mean, you can go,
You know, if you just look at Pollard's ADP anyways,
let's see, where is...
He's 22 on Underdog right now.
Yeah.
I thought the question was he wanted Pollard with the first pick of round two, no?
Yeah, well, he's saying he's picking late in the first round.
He's thinking of stealing him.
I mean, like I think what John's saying here, Sean, you might be able to get both.
If you want to get Bejohn and then in the second round,
Pollard might be there for you.
Right. I think there is a pretty good chance to Bejohn's there. I don't know late. I don't know, was that 10? Is that 9? 11?
B. John probably won't make a past 10, but A, I'm not taking Tony Pollard in round one. And B, if I am picking in, you know, 14th, 15th pick of round of the draft and early, for a few picks of round two, I can't take Pollard down.
high. I mean, I don't about you, Brian, but I, that's a little, that's a bit much.
What's going to happen in Dallas is there's still going to be someone that gets signed.
They're not going to roll with Ronald Jones as their RB2. It's either going to be Zeeke,
maybe Lenny. You know, I think worst case scenario would be if Kareem Hunt came there
because he could still work in the past game from Pollard. So Pollard, I don't think is going
to be this like 80, 20 touch over if Zeeke comes back. Like what people are kind of,
of wish casting on to him. I mean, he's just not built for that. He's going to get his high
impact touches. But, you know, let's be honest here. He's not going to be grinding between the
20s. That's just not who Tony Pollard is. I'll give you what I have for him. And again,
we try our best to project a number of games. And despite that serious injury last year, I did give
him 16 games. And look, we're actually a little below the markets. Not that I'm against them.
I get it. It's a sexy pick. But we've got him at 260.
16 games, you know, 16.25 touches a game, which I think is, some may say low,
but, you know, they're running back to coach addressed in last year. Like, you can't overexpose this guy.
And even if you opt it three a game, and I'm counting, this is all touches, by the way, this is not just carries.
Even that's kind of pushing it. To your point, I don't know if he's a 20 touch guy.
And it is a new offense too with Brian Chattanoheimer.
I thought that Kellanmore, I kind of like Kelimor.
I thought he did a good job with Tony Pollard.
So there's a question.
And look, I still think Zeke might be back.
Yeah.
So if you're, what I like, what I like Tony Pollard is if I open at the top,
let's say I have the second pick and I get Chase and then it comes back, pick 23,
then I'm taking Pollard and feeling real.
really good, something like that, or maybe even a Tyreek at four or five and then come back
with Pollard.
There, you know, sometimes, sometimes you do have to go out and get your gut, you know,
but that would be a little too proactive for me, I think.
I love these kind of questions.
This is exactly why we do ask Guru anything.
John, first time, long time.
Analyze the similarities between dating in your late 20s, early 30s, and managing a dynasty
team. I'll hang up and listen. I have no experience dating. I don't know if people don't know this.
I have had one girlfriend in my entire life. That's it. Like for most of my high school, I did not have
a steady girlfriend. I was like, no, no, no. Why would I do that? You know, so I didn't do that.
But at the very end, I met my wife and that's it. You know, I have absolutely no.
No saying the matter.
But, you know, when you nail the pick, you nail the pick.
When you draft Tom Brady, his rookie year in a dynasty league,
and you keep him for a quarter of a century, that's what you do.
You know, when you get it right, you get it right the first time.
So I don't know, maybe you can answer that.
I have no experience.
I met my wife when I was a senior in college.
She was a freshman.
So I've been now married for, geez, coming up.
This is what year 13.
So it's been a while for me.
I'll be 43 this year, man.
I'm getting old.
Holy smokes.
Yeah, I was, I will say I was, you know, probably one of the better flirtatious high school dudes out there.
I did enjoy, you know, your flirtations with the ladies.
So there was a term for it when I was in high school in my town.
You know, every town's got their little.
idiosyncratic terms.
And when you were trying to
you know, I guess the equivalent now
would be like your Riz.
You know what Riz is?
No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
My kids are too young.
Like your reputation?
Yeah, just kind of like your swag,
whatever, whatever.
With specifically talking to the ladies.
Okay.
You're games.
Like you got game with the ladies.
Yeah, yeah.
They would call it Swanson.
It was like Swanson, but they would call me John Swanson.
So I did pretty well at that.
But yeah.
If there's not a burner on Twitter after this show for John Swanson with you and a mustache, it would a drink in your hand.
That was just a thing that must have hit just this one little geographic area in New Jersey in 1986.
I don't think it really took off.
That's tremendous.
Hey, I give you tons of credit.
You brought your wife over the weekend to a fantasy draft in Philadelphia.
a bunch of listeners to your serious XM morning show and she hung out.
She met some of the loyal listeners here.
That's brave, my friend.
I give you credit.
Well, she's never really done anything like that ever.
She has absolutely no interaction with anyone.
She's not on Twitter.
She actually is on Instagram.
She does a little page where she does a lot of like design work and things like that.
So it's like a design page where, you know,
she posts her stuff and it's a little deeper than that like she's all about like feeling good and
you know like they're getting the room to to get you the vibe it's going good and all that but yeah
she's been completely invisible but i'm like you know i am i am doing this 10 miles away was a rainy
sunday afternoon it was hot that you want to go outside anyway so she tagged along but it was
cool for her to you know for some people to meet her because i talk about her a fair amount so like
oh yeah they were asking about her dog so they're asking about her dog so they
They were like, yeah, people even knew about our dog Wrigley.
I'm like, yeah, of course they care.
One of the people she met, it was a participant in the draft name Maude.
Maude's in the chat right now.
There you go.
Yeah, she definitely saw her out.
I believe her first question was, how do you put up with this guy, which is pretty accurate?
That's tremendous.
Hey, let me get your thoughts on this here.
So Elvin Kamara pledged no contest today to misdemeanor charge, stemming from a
fight he had in a Las Vegas nightclub. So the Saints R.B. was facing felony charges.
This plea is going to keep him out of the courtroom and most likely keep him out of jail.
For fantasy purposes, Kamara's almost a forgotten man. He's a ninth round pick on underdog.
The Saints drafted Kendra Miller. Then they signed the man who led the league in touchdowns a year
ago, Jamal Williams. Couple that with Kamara's Disbil 22. He only scored four touchdowns,
failed to catch 60 balls. What's your thoughts on Kamara this year with Derek Carr in town?
and could he help dispel the rumor that Kamara was just a product of Drew Brees?
Well, I mean, I'm perpetuating that rumor in a lot of ways.
Is that a thing or?
I think it's a thing.
What's that?
I buy into it.
If you look at what he's done the last few years without Derek, without Drew Brees,
he just simply doesn't catch the football.
And they're not going to grind him enough between the tackles.
I mean, he loses all his value.
I guess it's a moot point when Drew Brie's retires, but retired.
and it's been two years, but like it kind of struck me early last year.
I'm like, you know, Drew Breeze and nothing against Camara,
but Drew Breeze is so good.
Like he did kind of make Camara in many ways.
Look, Camara would have been fine no matter what,
but he just pushed him a little bit further up that ladder, if you will, whatever.
And it's like, my God, it was like 5.4 catches per game under Breeze,
the first four years, and then it was like 3.2 since that, and probably less productive on those
3.2 because, you know, I actually did a video on this, so it's fresh on the brain.
Pete Carmichael is the office coordinator. That's Sean Payton's guy, you know, like a protege,
but he's not Sean Payton. Like, there's a drop off there as well. So Derek Carr's stabilized it.
So that's pretty good.
But, you know, we also is now facing more competition.
Well, since Mark Engrom, you know, when we go back, of course, Camaro was a young buck then.
So now he's in a year entering year seven, which of course, per our guy, Ryan and the drop off the age article, which the damn name is escaping me now.
But it's all the right.
Yeah, Ryan Heath put that out about when running backs dropping off.
cliff at a certain age. Go over to
FantasyPoint.com. You definitely want to read that.
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, all
the data shows year seven, which
is the year Camaro's going into, is the
year where you start
showing a noticeable decline
from your previous career baseline.
And I do have,
I dig into the Fantasy
Points data among all
running backs last year. It wasn't a great
offense, sure, with at least
100 carries. There were
42 of them.
Camaro was 37th an explosive vermin rate.
23rd in force-miss tackles per attempt.
32nd out of 42 in yards after contact.
So, you know, not great.
And I'm out on that.
So I don't think it's a sneaky.
Oh, I'm going to get them now.
I will say the schedule is good.
And if they cut this down to like a four-game suspension, the timing is good.
And obviously it's got to be served to open the season.
And that's when their harder matchups,
I think five of their top seven tough matchups are in weeks one through five.
So, you know, if he does get suspended, let's say four,
I mean, that does help.
But that means the ADP, though, will come up probably to like 80, right?
75.
I'm out.
I'm still out on that.
I never want to be the guy who's stashing the Indian.
injured or suspended guy on my bench because those first few weeks, that's when you make your big waiver moves.
That's when you're going to land possibly that difference maker that can become a starter for you the rest of the season.
And now you're like, oh, I can't go pick up, you know, years ago when you're picking up Michael Thomas or somebody like that off the waiver wire because, oh, I got Elman Kamara sitting on my bench for a month.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm just out on these old guys, you know, me.
I mean, I'm a major ageist, you know, clearly Camer's best football is behind him.
So, you know, just add up the pros and the cons.
Year 7, 1,500 plus touches, you know, hasn't been the same really in a lot of ways without Peyton and Breeze.
Bad data points, more competition than ever.
Schedule is okay, but yeah, yeah, I'm not in.
And by the way, the other thing is, too, it would be.
one thing if, you know, other good running backs weren't falling, but they're all kind of falling
a little bit this year. Like he could be right up there with like Rashad White with ADP. I'm like,
no, I'm not doing that. Yeah, no question about it. And folks, if you're enjoying this on YouTube and
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All right, let's stick with our guys here in the chat room.
Earn Marks.
I got a feeling that might not be his real name.
It says, Guru, thoughts on Anthony Richardson.
thoughts on targeting guys like Purdy late in redrafts.
And he asked a few other questions, but let's stop right there.
Anthony Richardson is a guy who right now his ADP on underdogs right around 100.
So he's about a ninth round pick.
I'm saying, you know, wherever I go, if you're going to get Anthony Richardson,
I want to back that up with a guy like Aaron Rogers a couple rounds later.
So I got that stability.
You know, I've got Aaron Rogers, who I know week and week out is going to be, you know,
consistent and Anthony Richardson, who you're hoping blows it to the moon.
Yeah. By the way, allegedly, reportedly that that car fire that Leonard had somewhat recently,
apparently he was like racing or something like doing something nefarious. So he's up to his
old tricks, that front runner Lenny, baby, team went in the tank and he was he was crap last year.
I don't think he has that much left in the tank.
Maybe with better play calling and design
because Byron Lefich was not good,
but I think Kareem Hunt's kind of toast, too, by the way.
I actually said that last year.
I thought that he was toast.
But with the question on Richardson,
yeah, I've been really thinking about it
and we're getting a little bit,
I've heard like slow the role on, you know, the great vibes.
I think there are some good,
vibes. I have a superstar vibe with them. Obviously, the greatest workout in the history of the
combine. But I've been, you know, I've been told to like, sim it down now a little bit.
Now we're hearing some reports that it was maybe a little bit of an uneven rookie offseason,
which I don't know what that means anyway. It's very early in the game. We'll see when the pads go
on. But adding it all up, I'm out on him this year. I'm not doing it. I will tell you, though,
if what I expect happens happens, he'll be my number one quarterback target next year.
Because I just think it's kind of like, it just, I'm not feeling it.
I think it's going to be a little ugly all over the place.
I mean, there are a lot of good things in place.
I think the O line is about average.
But, you know, they pretty settled on their starters.
Quentin, back healthy.
Shane Steichen, you know, he's a lot of.
the RPO guy. He got
Miles Sanders
with, what was it?
I think it was 280
touches to
RB 15. And Taylor
is better than Sanders
and he'll get more touches. I like
Josh Downs as a great
plug-in-play slot.
Pittman and Pierce aren't
dynamic. I do like Pierce.
Pittman I've always liked, but you know,
he's okay. It's just, I'm
not loving him. He's a possession guy.
But, you know, you had in those tightness is a pretty good environment.
But, I mean, he is so raw and not raw, but just inexperienced.
So I feel like we're going to see some serious deer in the headlights at times.
And that'll just be volatile.
Like maybe by the end, by the last seven, six, seven weeks.
But by then, like, what are we doing paying the premium?
You know, like, was it, 95 overall?
Yeah, I've got them.
The debt I'm looking at here is like one.
101 on Underdog, so that's a ninth round pick.
Yeah, I mean, Kirk Cousins, you know, he's going to throw 30,
probably do a little bit better than last year.
I know we're at the market on Richardson,
and we'll maybe get a better idea about the games and all that.
My gut feeling, I usually get these right.
Well, my initial gut was, you know, I think he might sit for like,
more than a month.
But now I'm feeling pretty good like Minchu gets three starts.
I'm thinking Minchu gets two to three starts, let's say, which isn't I know earth-shattering.
But I guess some people are thinking, oh, he's going to plug it, plug it right in.
You know, maybe they do.
But we're actually right at the market with Richardson, but he will not be on my target list.
Brock Purdy is, though.
You know, I've had him on my list for two months.
I love targeting Purdy-Layton drafts.
I mean, nobody wants to draft this kid.
By all accounts, he's going to be fine, and he's going to start for the 49ers,
the first or second best team in the NFC.
All he did last year in every start was throw multiple touchdowns
outside of the game of the Eagles when he got hurt.
I mean, he's a really good quarterback that you can get super late.
might the clock strike midnight and he turns into a pumpkin and oh he's the last pick in the
draft and all that yeah maybe but for the price you pay for him i mean i'm scrolling on the list here
to get brock purdy holy smokes he's going 171st on underdog i mean he's a 15th round pick
well you know his when i first rolled out by um i guess underdog draft plan that was actually in may
purdy was in there and he was like q b 33 and we were like
like, I don't know, we're 27 or something, well ahead.
And then I bumped them up, but now the markets have caught our asses here at QB24.
He also, by the way, had the highest touchdown percentage in football last year.
Now, that, you know, he's due to get regression, you know, and cut that down.
But I don't know.
I mean, even if it's chopped down 25, 30%, it's still good.
He's got the, look at the weapons.
throwing too. He can dump off to McCaffrey, Georgie Kittle, Samuel Ayuk is a monster.
I mean, he's got great players out there. I mean, there's a lot of quarterbacks going above him
that don't have near the firepower that Brock Purdy does. You know, he kind of reminds me of a poor
man's Tony Romo. And so, you know, Romo is a little more talented, but then again, Romo didn't
even get drafted, but Romo was better, but I would say, and more talented, but I would say
that the system and the personnel in Dallas, they were good.
I mean, they've always had good players and all that.
But the Shanahan system in that environment,
I think it's a little bit better.
So that's why I'm flirting with visions of Romo sometimes watching Purdy,
believe it or not.
Our guy, Louis Capone, is upset that there's no more direct TV on Sundays.
And we've got a couple of folks asking here in the chat.
Oh, Godfather.
Yeah.
What are you going to do on Sundays here now, Guru?
Guru viewing party.
Guru view.
It's actually not a better idea.
I'll buy a bar and a pizzeria in New Jersey, right?
I can bake Sundays and you come and hang out at the bar.
We'll get direct TV.
We'll watch the games.
I'll make some pies.
We'll talk shit.
Yeah, let's do it.
I'm telling you.
You could do that.
You could sell tickets to it every week.
You come there.
People just drink.
It's all fantasy all the time.
You got good Wi-Fi.
people bring in their laptops.
Leagues could come there and draft.
There's money in them there, hills, Mr. Guru.
But a shout out to the Godfather there, the Fantasy Godfather.
I see You Godfather.
Does a spot-on impersonation there.
That's an ACI alumni as well.
Was there an actual fantasy question there?
No, they just want to know what you're doing on Sundays now if you're not doing a direct TV show.
Yeah, I know.
You know, honestly, it's for the best.
I mean, it was a lot.
It was too good of a gig to pass up.
There's one of those things like, you got to tell my wife, like, sorry.
You're like, I can't.
Literally, as a man, incapable of turning down a good gig like that.
But the timing is pretty good, though.
My twins are seniors in high school.
So I don't know what I'm going to do.
I could tell you I won't be on Sirius XM, that's for sure.
I'll be doing fantasy point stuff.
I'll be doing some stuff here.
But I might be at a hotel room on a college visit in the fall.
I'm actually going to go out of my house in the fall on a weekend this year.
Whoa.
Where's your son looking to go?
Like, are you going to say?
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Holy moly.
It's pretty early in the, and they haven't really looked at specific schools.
I mean, my daughter wants to go to California.
California and West Coast, but yeah.
I think they'll stay together, the twins?
I don't know.
They're very close.
My boy is big music guy.
So he's probably going to be like a music English major guy, you know, something like that.
And my daughter actually is a very good writer, creative writer, and she wants to actually be in like a director, you know, film and things like that.
So we shall see.
We're talking a little business here.
And you're a guy who's built a business and sold it and then built another one where we are now at fantasy points.com.
What advice would you give young guru after 25 years or 30 years, whatever it is in the business?
If you could go back and talk to yourself when you're first starting the game, what would you say?
Oh, God.
The easiest question I've ever fielded.
Work smarter, not harder.
I mean, I cannot tell you.
in my defense, a lot of the things I was trying to do were brand new. Like, oh, I don't know,
the internet, you know, things like that. So I suffered some growing pains with that, but I'm still
a little guilty of it, but absolutely worked dumb for, for too long. But I don't know, maybe that is
just my process. I kind of like have to cover it completely like a blanket. And that's just so
time-consuming, but for sure, work smarter or not harder is number one lesson.
Interesting.
Interesting.
There's a team out there.
They're trying to work a little harder this off season because it seems like they're
kind of taking steps back.
That's the Buffalo Bills.
Everyone thought they're on the doorstep of the Super Bowl.
And now it seems like, you know, they can't get out of the first round.
I've got to get away from those Cincinnati Bengals and the Kansas City Chiefs.
And JJ asked thoughts on Dalton Kincaid this year and as a long-term value, he feels
under he seems undervalued.
Kincaid's a better pass catcher than Hawkinson,
according to JJ,
and has a better quarterback in Josh Allen.
What do you think of Dalton Kincaid?
Buffalo's went and took him in the first round this year,
which made a bunch of folks,
including our own, I remember hearing Graham Barfield
and Fantasy Points.
He was high on him.
I'm always wary of first round tight ends.
I just don't see them producing.
And they paid Dawson Knox all this money.
They do need someone in the slot.
maybe it's going to be Khalil Shakir.
But Kincaid's an interesting prospect, man.
He ain't going to block anybody.
He's just going to go out there and get passes.
Yeah, I mean, he was the closest to Kelsey in this class.
I mean, I know that he can't compare to Kelsey, especially now, probably ever.
But, you know, that was the name that came to mind when I popped in, you know, what I looked.
I actually liked Luke Musgrave just a little bit better.
I thought maybe he was more of a complete.
player but and also maybe that's what buffalo is looking at him as a big slot because he's a little
undersized not exactly a great blocker and he's also not like a complete stallion of an athlete so
what he could be is a little bit of a tweener right so those tweeners don't necessarily work out now
I think he'll be better than like a Gerald Everett you know something like that but
For this year, I mean, I think that they're going to go two, three years being like all in on this kid as a major part of their passing game.
But I think it's going to be a little slow going.
I thought last year what they missed was the checkdown safety valve slot guide, Cole Beasley, who helped move the chains.
I mean, it really, you know, really did. Obviously, they thought otherwise they want to get more big play or,
but, you know, I'm sure we have all the, we have all the data on, like,
rookie tight ends and all that.
Like, it just rarely happens for them.
You mentioned Dawson Knox.
Could be a little bit of a committee there, you know, with Shakir,
it signed Deonti Hardy.
So I have been pretty much down on it all along.
And I'm actually not totally sold for the long time.
I just trust the athletic tight end who can also block a little bit more.
You know, that's why I actually kind of like Luke Musgrave, just a little bit more.
Cuckech's sexy and flashy and all that, but I'm also not totally sold on Ken Dorsey.
I know the numbers look great for Allen.
Similar, almost exactly the same.
Did it feel that way, though?
No, would it look like last?
year is the Buffalo offense. Obviously, Brian
Dayball is not there anymore calling the plays.
He's the head coach of the Giants. So what
it looked like to me is you're just putting the Superman
cape on Josh Allen every play.
And say, hey, go make a play. It looked a lot
to me like old school Seattle
Seahawks when they would just say,
hey, draw it up in the dirt, Russ
Wilson and go make a play.
Because there was nothing happening in his
bill's offense except for Josh running around
and trying to be a hero. Right. Yeah.
I mean, Gabe Davis did have that
high ankle sprain. And he
He clearly lost, you know, our guy Kaplan talked with someone at the end of the year and said, you know, he lost some confidence.
I mean, it's to be expected.
When you're, when you're, it's hard enough to be a pro.
I'm sure, not that I know, hard enough to be a pro and prepare, you know, to be, you know, go up against the best of the best every week.
But when you're dealing with an injury as well, like you can lose a little confidence.
And that's what happened.
You can see a couple double catches like his hands have never.
have been great, but there were a few too many double catches and flat out drops that I'm like,
what the hell's going on? Well, there you go. We found out he had that high ankle sprain going into
week two and it bothered him for three months. We're talking about tight ends and we're talking about
fantasy points data that drops on July 17th. I dug in before the show trying to find some
information for a video that I'm going to do for the website on T.J. Hawkinson coming to the Vikings
post nine and I found all this great data on tight ends.
You want to hear some crazy stuff.
This is what you can find at Fantasy Points data folks.
So Hawkinson from Weeks 9 on ran the most routes, had the most air yards, and was targeted
as the first read more than any other tight end in the NFL.
I got all these quotes or all these stats on Chigacanquo.
Check it out at Drake Fantasy.
I put it out there.
And there's also a super sleeper that I put in from the data that I found from Fantasy
points data. Jalani Woods of the Indianapolis Colts. If you look at some of his metrics from
week nine on, I mean, Jelani Woods was tied with Travis Kelsey for second at targets per route run among all
tight ends. He was also fourth in tight end A dot. So, I mean, if they can get this kid to ball,
Anthony Richardson late in your draft, maybe a tight end too wouldn't be the worst pick in the
world. I mean, the dude is six, seven. So we can certainly get him a.
ball. He's a good example of a guy that I'm going to be probably right around the markets,
but I'm ready to pounce if the vibes are good in the summer. I'm still a little scarred
from dealing with Frank Reich and his freaking committees of 17 different tight ends. They still
have a bunch of them on this damn roster. Yeah, we're pretty much right at the market with
Jalani Woods.
But I could bump them into the top 25, like at 24, maybe even a little higher if
I got a really good vibe there.
Yeah.
I got to ask you about this knucklehead, Cadarius, Tony.
This is, I've labeled it knucklehead versus talent.
Here's a guy with seventh round underdog ADP, but things are coming out right now on
social media.
They're showing Tony, sending unflattering messages to fans.
He allegedly recorded this voice DM on Twitter that was nothing short of an expletive-filled
rant against Giants quarterback Daniel Jones.
Now he's locked into a starting role in KC,
but I'm getting major late stage Antonio Brown vibes from this dude.
Well, I think he's kind of always been this way.
I interviewed Kedarius on Zoom, just him and I.
Oh, my God.
Please tell me you recorded this.
Oh, we've got it somewhere.
I don't, yeah, we've got it.
I mean, it happened.
It was on serious X-S.
you can Google it.
If you can do a Twitter search,
we did push out an audio where I compared
him to Tyree Kill.
And he was liking that, which is ironic, right?
Because he's looking like the number one in KC.
Yeah.
He also compared himself to Camara
with the contact balance.
I'm like, I see that.
You know, I did like the talent.
But I also saw a video of him,
apparently given the middle finger
to giant fans getting size for a Super Bowl rig.
Like that's a front runner right there.
It's like, dude, you were a massive pile of crap
before you got traded to the Chiefs.
And now you win and you're giving the other team's fan base to finger.
Come on, bro.
You know, I mean, no one's going to hold it against you
that you crap the bet as a giant if you, you know,
continue to ball out with the Chiefs.
But it's way too much.
I didn't have a problem with him
When I talk with him
You know, he's
He's a rapper
You know, he's
He's kind of like hood or whatever you want to say
But you know, I've been around
Those type of people in my entire life
So I'm comfortable
So I'm like, what's popping dog?
I don't give a crap
You know, it was fine
It was fine
But he was a little all over the place
Yeah
You know
Yeah, they got a
Andy Reid's got to shut that down.
You can't be DMing fans and telling them off.
And meanwhile, you know, it was very telling to me before I went away on vacation.
I saw the Cadarious Tony middle finger video.
I'm like, come on, dude.
And then I flip over to see a Skymoor 13 minute press conference wrapping up the OTAs.
Oh, I mean, you want to talk about night or day?
I mean, Skymore's like a choir boy.
it's like Sky Moore your daughter comes home and brings Sky Moore you're like way to go girl you know what I'm saying like this is a guy he's got Derek Jeter vibes huh he says he reminds me of Derek Jeter when he talks on the mic yeah man he just says the right things he knows where he needs to improve and he's very well very good with the media I did that interview with him with on serious it was I mean it was one of the best ones ever uh
And he did address, you know, the main thing, which is getting on the same page as Mahomes, like the hardcore nuance, basically scramble drill stuff.
This is kind of what I take from them.
Or just a real tight, nuanced thing that I'm sure Kelsey is unbelievable at.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, if you're getting ready, you're lined up in the.
a slot and it's a linebacker comes over and you lean this way, you know, I'll throw it.
You know what I mean?
Like that kind of stuff.
So, you know, he's been working on that.
And that's what I said.
Like clearly Mahomes did not trust him yet.
But once he does, it's going to happen because Cadarius will be cadaverous at some point.
He will not make it through the year unscathed, whether it be injury or something else.
My man ain't playing all 1617 for the Chiefs.
I agree.
Our buddy Robert Whaley in the chat asks,
Guru, what's your favorite cheese steak in Philly and why is it Steve's?
Well, it's actually gyms, which burned almost to the ground somewhat recently on South Street.
So I believe that they're working on it.
It's going to come back.
but gyms is the answer on south street um g knows if i have to not a pat's guy uh but really the
best food period and that uh type of cuisine is uh my guy and danny over at angelo's in south philly
who used to be here in new jersey and then he got and then he big time my ass and now it's like
the most legendary pizza place in philadelphia but he used to be across the bridge in jersey three
blocks from my house oh man hey darry
Warren Waller is going to be 31 this season, Guru.
And by all accounts, he's going to be the Giants number one target, okay?
He missed eight full games last year and he only played eight snaps in another.
So over the last two years, we've only seen 20 games out of Darren Waller.
He's got this bulky hamstring that's cursing for the past two years.
Now, I get why people are super excited about Mr. Waller, but I'm apprehensive.
He's currently tight end seven off the board.
Where do you fall on Darren Waller?
Yeah, I think the best way to look at it, well, there's two things.
With Waller, it really should be, does he stay healthy or not?
You know, like it's kind of like Barclay.
Like you draft Sequin Barclay, either he destroys your season or he does pretty well.
I mean, that's it's it.
So if Waller plays 14 games, I certainly believe Daniel Jones can get him to the ball.
he's got really good ball placement downfield pretty good touch they'll call up good plays they
want to let it rip and all that so you know but here's here's how we can handle it i think because
last year we buried his ass because the vibes were awful i'm like no no no no holding out for a new
contract holding in whatever the hell it was missing multiple weeks no no no no no no no
No, so we had them buried.
So now we just need to monitor the vibes.
I've said this about the Giants for five years.
It's actually always worked.
Do the vibe check in the summer.
They will give us a preview of what is to come in the summer.
Because two summers ago, I said that about Daniel Jones and everybody else.
And I'm like, well, at the end of the summer, like, well, we've done the vibe check and they suck.
So no, let's go.
And then last year, good vibes.
Obviously day ball and all that.
There you go.
So if Waller pulled up or going to be down for a couple of days with the hamstring or, you know, almost any side of trouble in that regard, I'd probably be with you.
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So Lewis Capone's back in the chat.
Hey.
And he says, I know you don't love Justin Fields.
And he says, I think it may be the only mistake you made all, you make all season.
But how you're feeling about a DJ Moore Justin Field stack?
Man, I, I, who, boy, I just, well, as, as he knows, Lou, uh, Lou,
back in the day, whenever I knew someone named Lou from like New Jersey,
I don't know why, I would always go, hey, how are you doing?
Whoa.
But anyway, Lou, you know I love DJ more.
I just can't, you know, buy into it right out of the gate.
You know, he's been a little bit, a little bit of a volume guy,
although, you know, some years he's not, actually.
there was that one year in Carolina, we all thought Robbie Anderson was going to be the downfield guy.
And that was DJ Moore, if you recall.
So, you know, I guess we're right at the market with them.
I'm not going to do it.
I don't trust these running quarterback.
I'm not yet convinced that Justin Fields, you know, has arrived.
He barely threw for 2,000 yards last year.
2000.
I know, I know, I know.
and, you know, just incapable of sticking in that pocket, you know, and getting beyond maybe a read or two and then taking off and running.
Well, great.
Great for fantasy.
But, you know, he got the crap beating out of him last year and he missed time, right?
And he was in danger of missing more time.
So what are we?
What are we not going to?
We're good now?
No.
That's just the problem every year.
And it's going to get worse.
I hear you, man.
Lots of fun here.
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Before I get you out of here, Guru,
you were a guy who's been a trendsetter in this game.
And off there, we had a conversation about how you
believe you started podcast
I believe with Mark Cuban.
I want to hear this Mark Cuban story.
Well, in the mid-90s,
I work for a casino gaming magazine company in Atlantic City.
I mean, that's where I live.
I grew up outside of that in Southern New Jersey.
So I was pretty hip to all the internet gambling stuff that started.
I used to actually write about internet gambling for a couple of magazines.
magazines, one trade, and then one consumer.
It was called, I think it's still around, casino player magazine.
So I was actually kind of the, you know, one of the foremost authorities on internet gambling
when it first started.
That's awesome.
You remember the Golden Palace guys, right?
Remember Golden Palace, the tattoo on the back of the boxer?
See, you know.
Was that your idea?
You're pretty young then, if you don't remember that.
Lou, Lou knows, right?
Lou.
they used to advertise
Lou won 2K on that fight
What's that?
Lou probably won 2K on that fight right this
It's funny I actually once covered a Roy Jones fight
in Vegas or L.A
where he had the Golden Palace
And he was like the middleweight champion of the world
Anyway, they were huge
I knew those guys but I got to know a guy
at like this conference in Vegas
You know like computing
gaming whatever
And he was a young
young guy from Dallas and very, very aggressive.
I like the guy, you know, like we got along really well.
We were both very, very ambitious.
So I became friends with this guy.
And we hung out at various, we just go to Canada a lot.
But it turns out that his brother worked for this company out of Dallas that had like five employees.
and it was a company called AudioNet.
If you Google that, it should come up.
And I think it was 1996.
So I don't know, maybe there were another podcast or I don't know.
But in 1996, I used to do a internet broadcast one hour.
They would call my house on a Friday night, no intro music, nothing, on the landline.
and it would be like, three, two, one, go.
And I would talk for an hour and preview all the games for this audio net,
which then became broadcast.com.
And then the guy was, you know, I guess one of Mark Cuban's top right-hand guys.
I mean, nobody knows that.
I'm not even sure.
The problem is a lot of these things I don't know.
Nothing's documented, but I don't know if nothing's documented.
but I don't know if there were many fantasy football podcasts in 1996, but I did one.
That's awesome.
What a cool story, man, from way back in the day.
I love those old school podcasts and Internet radio.
That's kind of how I got into fantasy football.
You know, your buddies with the guys like Greg Ambrosius and those guys, you know,
and high stakes.
And they were kind of the forefathers of that.
I remember God, you know, Bob Harris and hearing these guys just doing these obscure shows.
I loved it because I'm on an old radio nerd.
Absolutely. I've known all those guys since those 90s. By the way, you know, one time at one of those things, I actually partied with a couple of the founders of PayPal.
And I'm wondering to this day, I don't know if one of them was Elon Musk or not. I had some serious worlds colliding back then, though, with the sports books, gambling and all that.
You should have been in the movie
Casino.
I once interviewed John McCain
about gambling
and John McCain told me
quote, I love gambling.
I'm like, cool, there you go.
There you go, fella.
Yeah, very maverick of him.
Yeah, because his
Arizona
counterpart was
a guy by the name of John
Kyle who was actually trying to
kill internet gambling
and they were trying to crowbar
fantasy into that.
So they were trying to take it out.
And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I'm doing fantasy.
So I was advocating in the casino magazines, and I was doing speaking things.
I did a couple documentaries and everything where I was like, no, no, no, no, no, fantasy football is, you know, a game of skill.
Others came in with the FSTA and all that and a lot of the lawyers and all that.
Charlie Weigert was a big part of that getting them out.
And again, this is something nobody else knows.
But I was probably the first person in America trying to separate gambling from fantasy
because I knew this guy John Kyle was trying to eliminate internet gambling as early as like 1996.
Yeah, that's before poker and all that stuff hit.
Wow.
Interesting.
That guy, who's the big Phil guy?
Phil oh yeah didn't he just hit something I saw on uh what the hell's his last name
well you whatever i talked to that guy yeah yeah yeah glasses and the headphones and
oh yeah here's another one for you you're friend of the movie casino i love that yeah love the
the name drops lefty rosenthal the real lefty rosenthal was a was an admirer of my
casino gambling column and uh we called the office i talked with them briefly uh obviously before
he died. This is, again, in the 90s.
I'm like, in the movie, it just
came out, too. I was like, oh, wow, I was Lefty Rosenthal.
That was pretty cool. It'd be cool if your magazine
was like on one of the desks. And, you know,
it's just opened and like, hey, look at this.
Well, that's what I've learned when you put
yourself out there. You never
know who's reading, who's listening,
who's watching. You just, you never know.
Yeah, that's a great thing.
You have time, John, for some super
fast, rapid fire. We've got three last
ones here in the chat. All right, Jose
Lopez. I mean, he's asking here, are you guys drafting a wide receiver or a running back in the first
round? And that's kind of ambiguous question right there. Well, you've got to figure out where you're
drafting. And the first thing is like, try and plan out your optimal or best favorite second round
pick. And if that happens to be a running back, then now you know, like, I really want to go wide
receiver in round one. I mean, that's what I do. I think, I don't know what,
draft spot he's in. I'm doing a bunch of articles and podcasts about every one of them for the site,
by the way. I already did drafting from the one spot. So I think we'll be able to cover it. But
I don't know exactly where he is. That's the tough part. Yeah. And that's kind of where I was going to
bring all these three questions together and say that get over to fantasy points.com. John puts out
these articles where he drafts from every single spot. I think your Hanson Hintz podcast, if you're in the
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We put out so many freaking podcasts. It'll blow your mind. What Joe Jolin's doing right now
with his franchise focus series, every single team, he talks to an insider. Today, I listen to
Jimmy Kemsky with the Philadelphia Eagles. The guy,
I was sitting on a bench in a park talking to Dolan about fantasy football.
It's tremendous.
I would say this, too.
I have never been less inclined to draft running backs in the first four to five rounds in my entire life.
And I've been playing fantasy then this year.
And I've been playing since 1987 when I was two years old.
Now, I was older than two.
But yeah.
So I do want to get one in the first two, three rounds.
You know, Josh Jacobs is a pretty good one.
you open up wide receiver, you come back, get Josh Jacobs, because that was my mock for the
article will be out probably this week. I took Chase, came back, took Jacobs. I like that,
Pollard, if he, if he lasts there. So yeah, we'll have it all, we'll have it all down there,
like the optimal route. You know, I'd like to wait a little bit until August to wait so the
data gets a little tighter, you know, because then it won't change all that much.
All right, folks, we've taken up an hour of the gurus.
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