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Episode Date: May 28, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Breaking down fantasy football's early NFL OTA winners and letting you know about some news that you need to monitor for fantasy football in 2026. That's him. That's the old cheap. Theo Greminger, Fantasy Football Daily, right here on the Fantasy Points, podcast network and Fantasy Points YouTube. Big shout out to our live audience. And I'm recording live with Brett Whitefield for the first time since the NFL draft when we had a lot of people watching us that first night, Brett. That was a really, really fun experience. But me and you were going to break down a number of subjects today.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Also, stay tuned. We're going to talk about the Brendan Swordsby situation, the NFL supplemental draft. But, Brett, I know nothing gets you going like NFL OTAs and mandatory minicamp. So I thought I'd have you come in here and break some stuff down. How are you doing? I'm doing great. I did not realize that this was the first time we have streamed together since the draft. I know I think we've done shows, right?
Starting point is 00:01:11 But yeah, for first stream, apparently. That's cool. Well, first live stream. We broke down a number of prospects. Make sure you check out some of the film versus analytics. If you're still, if you want to like get a really quick catch up on some of the top prospects that are rookies this year, make sure you check out some of the videos that Brett and Scott put out with me. But I was sort of John Stocktoning that one.
Starting point is 00:01:35 It's really Brett breaking down incredible film analysis for some of these really top-notch players. But we're going to talk about it today. And a number of rookies are getting a little. little bit of buzz as they always do coming out of OTAs. So I like sort of the OTA coach speak, general manager speak. I like hearing what the beat reporters are saying. I think that when you look at things from a bird's eye view, you can take away little nuggets that can help us out in fantasy football without overreacting to maybe one person's
Starting point is 00:02:04 voice. When the drum beats are loud, things tend to happen in the NFL. I remember this time last year when it was early June, middle of July. started hearing not only the coaching staff, other players, but also the beat reporters talking about a guy like a Harold Fanon Jr. And lo and behold, the guy ends up having a massive role this year on the team. So we want to pay attention to this sort of thing and try to find edges that can help us win in fantasy football. And I guess for fantasy points, we've got to talk about Parker Washington on literally every single show. But Parker Washington, I know that this is Scott Barrett guy, this is a Brett Whitefield guy.
Starting point is 00:02:43 and because I have bags and bags of him in all formats right now, I guess it's a Theo Greminger guy as well right now. But Parker Washington, we're getting positive speak from Grant Udinski, the general manager of the Jacksonville Jaguars, who basically said that Parker Washington can continue what he did last year and then build on it. The exact quote is that Parker Washington is capable of what he did at the end of last season last year, and even more than that. So we saw this insane three-game stretch where he had 19 catches for 347 yards and two touchdowns,
Starting point is 00:03:19 had the massive playoff game against Buffalo. And I guess like general manager speak, it's like whatever. But now we're hearing from John Shipley, who's one of the more respected beat reporters, that the Jacksonville Jaguars are prepared to offer Washington a three-year $55 million contract. I mean, that sort of says a lot more than any sort of nice things that we hear from Liam Cohen or the front office or from Scott Barrett or from Scott Barrett yeah the negativity from Dave Clugge yesterday we had a uh Dave clugie going negative on Parker Washington I mean he might be banned from the channel I got to check with Scott well here's the deal with Parker is I you look at the way
Starting point is 00:03:57 the Jacksonville Jaguars wide receiver room is constructed like he's by far their most complete wide receiver and I look at you know go to the finish points data suite and look at the average depth of route run he led the team like over a guy like Brian Thomas june who is like a perennial deep threat. Like Parker Washington's average depth of rut run was higher than that. He's a high level separator despite the average depth of route run. And what we know from doing all the study is that the deeper you're running your routes, the lower your chances of generating separation are because recovery speed in the NFL is a thing.
Starting point is 00:04:30 And then on top of that, this guy's amazing after the catch. He's, you know, he had a top five in forced tackles per reception last year. I think he forced 12 catches on a relatively small sample because the work, wasn't quite there all year for him. So yeah, I'm all in on Parker Washington. I love hearing the gas. If I were him, the deal, I'd bet on himself. I'd say no to that three-year, $55 million deal. I think another season in the books at a high level, he could push, you know, $25 million a season. Yeah, I think it's an interesting take. And I think with wide receiver salaries, we've seen them sort of inflate. So I get that one. I do think there's something to be said about being in a perfect fit.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And when you look at the sort of receivers that have thrived playing alongside Trevor Lawrence, guys like Evan Ingram, his peak year where he was sort of parked in the slot, guys like Christian Kirk, you could see Parker Washington sort of being the best fit for what Trevor Lawrence is capable of doing. Then you look at like sort of the Liam Cohen offense and the parallels that he has with like what we saw with Chris Godwin two or three years back when he was absolutely thriving in a pretty similar role. So I don't know, Parker Washington, 24 years old, has a chance to build on last year, has a chance to get the bag.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I mean, I think that we're looking at Parker Washington maybe headed into the fifth round of leagues like the FFPC before we know it, because he's already in there in the sixth round. He's sort of living in round six. But I don't see any reason to sort of fade this one. Mike, what question to you would be the one player that I think could sort of play spoiler here. obviously the skill sets are not overlapping when it comes to a Brian Thomas Jr. But what about Jacoby Myers, who seems to be sort of the quiet name in the mix right now? Are you bullish on Jacobi Myers here? Could he be somebody that could cap the upside of everybody in this offense?
Starting point is 00:06:20 No, I don't think so. Like, my take on Jacobi is that he is the perennial pro. Like he is a, you know what you're getting. He's a good separator. He's got relatively good ball skills. body control and he kind of just fills that consistent chain mover role but he doesn't really have a ceiling at all and so i i'm yeah i think he's a vital piece for roster construction and team management but for you know that upside and really taking that past game to the next level he's not
Starting point is 00:06:47 really a guy i think that that caps anybody yeah so for for me um i think that jacobby myers agree with you i think stylistically he's a really really good player but he's not one that could do anything to like a Parker Washington Ascension. Another Jacksonville Jaguar who was shining in OTAs is Bachel Tootin. And Basial Tutin is a player that the two of us were on as a prospect two years ago. Last year is somewhat disappointing rookie season because Travis E.Tien was so impactful and really held back Tutin from getting any sort of an opportunity. Tutin did flash when he was on the field.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I don't want to say that Tutin's season was an absolute nothing. but in terms of like the fantasy community versus what we actually saw in the field in terms of touches and opportunities, they didn't really align. But it feels like Bachel Tootin, sort of the trepidation that we had when Chris Rodriguez signed might have been a little bit more overblown. There were other sites, not necessarily fantasy points where Chris Rodriguez signing. People were looking at Rodriguez as some sort of a skeleton key guy to the Liam Cohen offense where his production would be, all like inflated because of like the Kentucky connection. I mean, I don't know. For me, I never got into that one.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I do think Tutin with his explosiveness, his athleticism, and all of the design targets we've seen in the screen game could be a really, really dangerous weapon. And now you've got Chris Rodriguez with some sort of undisclosed injury, keeping him out of OTAs and Basial Tutin thriving at the same time. Your thoughts on Bachel Tutin getting off to a fast start? I think, and Brett, you could kind of speak to this. one. Like, OTAs might not mean anything to some people, but for, I think for a player trying
Starting point is 00:08:32 to earn an opportunity like this and being a younger player, they mean more than like some veteran looking to get a couple of wraps. Sure. I, you know, I was one of the guys. I think Chris Rodriguez is definitely going to have an impact on this, this offense. The Liam Cohen connection obviously is there, but also like Chris Rodriguez is pretty good at football. And I think people tend to overlook that part of it. Like he was the main guy in Washington last year and a, you know, in a backfield that was pretty much up for grabs. So I do think like he's not a nothing. And I'm guessing when they signed him, they were aware of whatever injury would hold him out of OTAs. That said, to your point, deal, like sometimes these veterans missing OTAs is just the crack in the doorway we need to get
Starting point is 00:09:10 a young player to take, you know, to ascend and take snaps or a job. You already mentioned Harold Fane and Jr. last year. Well, guess who wasn't at OTAs last year? That was David and Joku. And so, you know, things like this happened. This is exactly how veterans lose their jobs when are not on the field and they allow a younger player to shine. And so I think this is a great opportunity for Tutin. So I liked him as a prospect too, Theo. I think this this backfield is going to be pretty split. But hey, man, if he can convince them that he is a pass down weapon and can play on past downs, I do think that that is a pretty good role for him with the speed, with the explosiveness. So maybe he ends up carving out a bigger chunk of that offense that we initially thought.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah. And I think that you do sort of like pour a little bit of cold water on sort of like the the ceiling outcome for Tutin. And I will say that I don't think there's any chance that Tutin's touch numbers look like Travis ETNs from last year. But you say the word committee, could there be a scenario where Chris Rodriguez is sort of the is eating up touches from like inside the 20s? And Tutin ends up being not only the, you know, valuable like explosive play, pass catching role, but could also earn the goal line carries.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I don't, I mean, I don't see why not, although Chris Rodriguez is a bigger, powerful back. He's also awesome in pass protection. So I think the between the 20s thing actually makes a lot of sense. If you're going to, you know, live in those kind of drop back concepts that Liam Cohen likes. Yeah, you're going to want Chris Rodriguez on the field to pass protect. But, you know, inside the 20, I don't see a reason why Tutin can't take that role. Yeah, I think for me, it's sort of like the dream, dream scenario is this plays out like Chase Brown year two, where he was with Zathe. Moss and I think there was a lot of people who sort of could lean on like the merits
Starting point is 00:10:57 of what a Zach Moss brought to the table. Moss was coming off of a strong year. It's a great recall. Yeah, signed as a free agent. We love we love telling a story over here, Brett. Yeah. We're not just dropping stats here. We're we're painting pictures. And I don't know for me, I keep going back to that year where both of those guys ended up going like close enough to one another in drafts where you had to make a call on Moss versus Brown. Then Moss gets a little bit banged up. and Chase Brown ends up, like, running away with it. I think that the annoying player in the mix could end up being La Quint Allen, though.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Your thoughts on La Quint Allen, because, like, all of this, like, Bachel Tootin's is going to thrive in the screen game talk. Like, LeQuint Allen could also just be, like, the pass catching back. Lequint Allen could catch 45 passes this year and make everything Bachel Tootin just, like, a lot worse. Well, especially you follow these Jacksonville beats. You mentioned Shipley already. well, that's a guy I think he's been saying it. Lequin Allen is kind of their pass-down guy right now
Starting point is 00:11:58 where they love him in pass protection and he's got fantastic hands. That could be a problem for sure. I don't even want to think about that, though. That's disgusting. Yeah, it's a really, really gross one. And it would be really, really hard to sort of like break down. I think Chris Wecht showed a little bit of optimism here
Starting point is 00:12:14 with his projections with Bachel Tootin. You can find access to all of our projections for the NFL season. Chris Wecht was the best in the business last year. You can get those over at fantasy points along with dynasty rankings that I'm updating regularly. Scott Barrett's unbelievable work. You can get access to all of Brett's prospect stuff. Ryan Heath just dropped an amazing article. Like, we're dropping content all summer long that's going to help you win in fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Brett, let's keep this conversation going. We talked a lot about Jacksonville. Let's pivot over to the Carolina Panthers. unbelievable turnaround potentially from Jonathan Brooks. Jonathan Brooks looks fully healthy, starting to flash. We've seen former Carolina players talking about it. We've seen the coaching staff talking about it. Dave Canales seemed really, really excited about this development.
Starting point is 00:13:11 But Jonathan Brooks looks like he's back and he's participating at OTAs, looking explosive and also put on weight of the good variety, where people say that the guy looks completely rocked up and ready to sort of at least be in the mix for the running back two job and potentially in a pathway for even more. Yeah, and I really like Jonathan Brooks as a prospect. Unfortunately, we haven't seen him in several years at this point.
Starting point is 00:13:38 But you have to feel excited. I mean, they obviously let Rico Dowdle walk. I don't know that Trevor Aten is a guy who's going to take a ton of work, right? So basically it becomes John Brooks. versus Chuba Hubbard. We've already seen Canales try to give that job away to someone else other than Chuba Hubbard. So it feels like this is a really big opportunity. I'm pretty pleased to see him, you know, getting some good OTA buzz for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah, for me, I think I move him up to like the really, really valuable handcuff role. And I think that's sort of the way to treat it where the Dave Canales offense, that's been like super, super beneficial to roster. If we look at what Dave Canales has done in terms of being like a run. running back whisperer. A lot of these guys have had lower ADPs. We saw it last year where it was Rico Dowdell who ended up having this really impactful season. He was free in a lot of leagues. He was a or a waiver wire pickup in some. Then you look at the year before where Chuba Hubbard had this awesome year. And Chuba Hubbard was like this, I would say, double digit round guy for where you were having to draft them. Then you look at what Dave Canales was able to do with
Starting point is 00:14:49 Rashad White in Tampa Bay, where Rashad White had his career year attached to Dave Canales. So, like, I think getting an opportunity in the Dave Canales offense where he's been a running back whisperer, he's also been sort of an ADP whisperer. A big shout out to Derek Brown is in the chat right now. Debrough is saying that Jonathan Brooks is going to take this job. And I think there's a lot of people with him. My question to you would be, how insulated do you view Chuba Hubbard right now. Is this something where if you're holding bags of Chuba Hubbard or you've been drafting him in best ball, should you be worried?
Starting point is 00:15:25 Or is this like the job is his and Chuba Hubbard played injured last year. This could be a end up a value of a time to get Chuba Hubbard at sort of a slight discount because of the Jonathan Brooks enthusiasm. Yeah, I think, I mean, I just kind of briefly mentioned it. I feel like we just saw Dave Canales try to give that job away to an unharrowing did Rico Dowdell and Dowdell ran with it and was very good. I don't know. I wouldn't say very insulated.
Starting point is 00:15:53 You know, I think there were rumors they were going to move him at the deadline last year. They obviously spent a lot of draft capital on John Brooks, you know, a second round pick, albeit two years ago and a couple injuries later. However, you have to feel like it is at open competition. So I would say not very insulated. I don't have a ton of confidence. I mean, he's a limited player. You know, he's a good, he's a good pro, but he's not.
Starting point is 00:16:16 He's not a guy who gives you, he's not like a force multiplier at running back, as we like to call him, where he's not adding any value to your offense. He's sort of a compiler, right? He's a guy that he can get there with touches, but he needs touches. He's not especially explosive. And I think Canales does like him. What about people will say, Brett, the Carolina gave him the bag just two years ago. Does that matter at all?
Starting point is 00:16:38 I mean, that contract's like dwarfed out compared to, you know, all the other contracts that have come up since then. Is it even top 20 anymore to you? No, I think at the two. time it was like eight but yeah the running back position is back so uh yeah brees hall gets paid this off season everything's everything's sort of shifting um i'm with you i think chuba hubbard is like he's you should treat if it's dynasty treat him like an innings eater um in best ball he's like a structural pick that's all he is he's like if i'm playing catch up and i need a running back who's going to get me through and get some points i think he's there but i do think this is one of the takeover candidates i've
Starting point is 00:17:15 talked about like Blake Corum, the threat that he presents to Kyron Williams this year. And I think Jonathan Brooks is sure to be looked at in that same light. You're starting to see Jonathan Brooks creep up into like round eight in some of these FPC leagues without diving into like the other options around. Do you think that seems about right for a player with this sort of upside? Dude, you're the ADP whisper. I only know ADP's because you tell me what they are. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:41 Scott called me a slave to ADP the other day. It was so insulting. It was unbelievable. Well, you have to play the market correctly. I understand. You have to know when to reach. When to reach. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:51 When to plant the flag on your guy, but you don't want to do it two rounds early, you know. So I don't know. That feels maybe a little aggressive. But, you know, if you're convicted in the fact that it's a takeover candidate, then it's not aggressive at all. But if you're a little trepidacious on that and think Chuba is still a big player there, then I think eight's a little aggressive. Kind of where you land on the Brooks discussion kind of paints the picture there.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yeah, I think it's a structural drafting thing if you're going from redraft where you have to be prepared to take some not zeros, but in more of like running back two volume for the first month of the season. So you can't really draft Jonathan Brooks in like an extreme hero build. But if you're drafting Jonathan Brooks as like you're running back three, I think that's exactly the kind of player that you're looking for. And if you end up getting a takeover, maybe week six, that could be a pick that sort of like, you know, pushes you into the playoffs. and makes your team extra dangerous. Anytime Jonathan Brooks takes over as like a starter in this offense, you'd have to treat them as a top 15 player at the position. Because Brett, remind everybody sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:56 and again, we got to go back in time. But when he was drafted in the second round, his production on a per game basis was similar to be Jean Robinson after taking over a Texas. And the thing that gets us excited in fantasy was his three down ability. His ability is a pass catcher. So maybe go back in time, break down sort of how you viewed him as a prospect just briefly.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah, I was looking for my write-up on him, actually, in the very moment that you asked me this. And I think the thing that's like really jumped off the tape at Texas was his three-down skill set, like legitimate, comfortable and pass pro, awesome pass catcher. We knew that Texas offense, you know, they used their running backs as wide outs. So he played in the slot a little bit. He played out wide and ran route.
Starting point is 00:19:41 So I think you just see a guy who could be in every down. player and then just like I wrote him up as a fluid methodical runner where it's like he can just make guys miss on command he was my top running back of that of that season theo so or that draft clash it's I should say it was pretty cleanly actually like I don't think there was anyone close so big big fan of Brooks yeah so for for me it's uh Jonathan Brooks it's it's almost funny because we talk about the two takeover candidates Jonathan Brooks and Blake Corum were in the same draft class yeah and those two guys are looking like guys that could end up having really really strong seasons, but do have a little bit of work to do in terms of taking over the backfield.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Probably a longer, a longer process for Blake Corum as a true takeover guy. I think obviously Blake Corum, because of the nature of the offense, would also be extremely valuable. So I think both of those guys are really fun picks to make if you're fading Kyron Williams because of the volume that he's taken on the last couple of years and maybe the willingness that L.A. has to sort of expand on the Blake Corum role. And then Jonathan Brooks is just an easy one. It's this has happened in Dave Canales's offenses for multiple years.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And they've stuck by Jonathan Brooks through the injuries. So really, really fun one. Another player that's popping in OTAs for Carolina is Chris Brazel. And we had some positive speak from Brad Idzik, who's going to be calling plays this year. Idzik sort of talked about how fun that Chris Brazel is, how he sort of fits into what they want to do. And it's easy to see like Chris Brasel. Shining. If you're a beat reporter, you maybe haven't been around Chris Brasel, and you watch him play, he's extremely athletic and he's got great size, Brett.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Oh, totally. I mean, I think the thing that's crazy about him is the ability to sink and explode through his breaks. The quote from Idzik you're talking about, too, he mentioned his, his, the hesitation he puts in safeties because he can take you over the top. But then he has this unique ability to sink and explode on those dig routes, you know, on the backside of a dagger concept that's just really uncanny for a guy that size. So he's definitely not the typical Tennessee receiver we get. So I'm pretty excited to see him in this offense, especially considering how bad their past game struggled last year. I think getting a third guy in here that can actually do some damage will help Bryce Young a ton. Yeah. So when you say that, do you think Chris Brasel is a threat to sort of
Starting point is 00:22:04 people that are very enthusiastic about Jalen Koker right now, or is this more like a co-existing thing? and Brazell's the kind of guy that's going to like nuke, Xavier Leggette type. Because I think that's the interesting one, and I think that's the important one for Dynasty managers. Jalen Coker, we saw how great he was in the NFL playoffs, was fantastic in that game against the L.A. Rams, has flashed, had to earn a lot as an undrafted free agent coming out of Holy Cross. Now it's another player sort of in the mix.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I think at this point it's hard to like bet against Jail and Coker, and I think that the organization really likes them. But when it comes to Dynasty, we know Tetaroa McMillan's going to be the one there. It's hard to bet on a three in this offense. I mean, with Bryce Young behind center. It's really even has been hard to bet on it too, because I know Scott Barrett likes to remind me
Starting point is 00:22:56 every time I talked to him, the Panthers had 207 or more passing yards in three games last year. So it's tough sledding, but I want to give you some pop trivia real quick. Who is the best Holly Cross? player of the last 20 years. Jalen Koker.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Nope. He's going to be a starting receiver in Chicago this year. Oh, come on. Give me a break here. Go for it. Caleb Raymond. Come on, man. And I think you think you put, wait, hold on the chat, break this down. You'll check Khalif Raymond over, over, uh, Jill and Koker right now. Maybe not right the second, but peak Kayla Freeman for sure. Let us know anybody, Patriot League people watching the show. Let us know what Brett has to say here.
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Starting point is 00:24:12 Khalif Raymond on a Thursday in May, but that's where we're at. And also we're answering some of your questions. So drop them in the chat here. If you have anything to ask, Brett and I, make sure and drop it here. Let's talk about the Cleveland Browns. And before we talk about the quarterbacks, let's talk about two of sort of our guys throughout the process. Casey Concepcion flashing as we anticipated. But really the talk of camp has been Denzil. Boston. Denzel Boston has been tearing it up. There are certain beat reporters who thought he was the most impressive skill position player period in the OTAs, made a number of big plays, showed that body control and the ability to win in the red zone, and did it sort of at multiple times and on
Starting point is 00:24:57 multiple plays. Casey Concepcion, of course, is doing Casey stuff. There's a couple of clips that have ended up on X of him making catches over the middle, going up and high pointing a ball. while he was getting drilled by a defensive back. Like, KC's going to do KC stuff, but I think Denzel Boston's a really fun player to discuss, Brett, because when we did film versus analytics, we talked about sort of Casey Concepcion,
Starting point is 00:25:21 we weren't necessarily worried about Denzel Boston. Would a Denzel Boston ascension give you any sort of worries here with KC, or is it just not overlapping? Well, one of their ceilings will inevitably be capped by the other guy. I'm not, like, they were my number two and number three receiver,
Starting point is 00:25:36 receiver prospect in this class. So I'm not surprised at all if they're showing out. But yeah, I mean, just math tells you that one of their ceilings should be capped. Obviously, I'm a bigger believer in Concepcion, as he's like a top 15 wide receiver I've ever evaluated. But Boston's also freaking awesome. And I just, Boston's play style specifically is, is really going to be endearing to a guy like Deshaun Watson,
Starting point is 00:25:59 who is pretty comfortable throwing into tight windows and utilizing that body control, that run after catch ability from Boston. So, you know, I'm not super worried about Boston for KC from a fantasy standpoint, but I do think like, you know, maybe you have a Jamar and T. Higgins situation. I think for me, the two of them also, the conversation has to be had about Harold Fannin Jr., who is an awesome talent, who was the number one target earner last year as a 21-year-old in the offense. But I think for me, it's those two guys sort of cap the ceiling outcome for Harold Fannan Jr. for me, I'm a little like, it's not like I don't want to draft fan in,
Starting point is 00:26:39 but I feel like I'm drafting the tight end five at tight end five, or tight end six at tight end six, wherever he falls in ADP, rather than a guy who could end up with like 135, 140 targets. This is not going to be a fantastic passing offense either because of their current limitations at the quarterback position. Let us know in the chat what you think about these two rookie wide receivers. Do they have an impact on Harold Fanon Jr.?
Starting point is 00:27:03 or we being a little too overblown here. I just worry about it a little bit. And I think when we look back two, three years from now, there's going to be a player that's the biggest winner here in terms of who's the biggest dynasty value out of these three. So yeah, I'm just keeping that one in the back of my mind. But yeah, I think the way that I'm handling at Brett is I want to get exposure to, I already have a ton of Casey Concepcion exposure in Dynasty.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I have a good amount of Denzel Boston exposure. I want to make sure I sort of keep that, even if 2027 is a little bit slower because I think quarterback could get better down the line. And from a best ball perspective, I want to get access to both of these guys because they're both super cheap. And I think that they're both capable of putting up spike weeks. I can get like both of them in the low end wide receiver four, wide receiver five range and double tap exposure to Cleveland that way instead of like having to reach up and take somebody early on. So I'm with it, man. But Casey Concepcion still to the moon, correct?
Starting point is 00:28:03 Brett? Oh, heck yeah. There we go. There we go. Yeah, and we will answer some of your questions in the chat. Let's just take one. Is C.J. Strat, we had a C.J. Stroud question that looked good. C.J. Stroud is really easy to get in Dynasty right now. Can he get back to that starting QB2 territory? I mean, how insulated do you think C.J. Stroud is after two playoff loss, NFL playoff losses. Houston has done a considerable amount to try to add skill position talent around him. Brett, we saw last year with them drafting Jaden Higgins, Jalen Noel, this past year. They trade for David Montgomery. Obviously, they put a lot of emphasis into the offensive line there.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Is this a like win or get replaced type season for C.J. Stroud? I mean, they have one of the best rosters in the NFL right now. I mean, arguably the best. It's like probably them or the Rams, right? But it's tough because like I made on my podcast, I made. made, I contended that Davis Mills played better than C.J. Stroud last year and the offense was better with Davis Mills on the field. And I think that's still very much true. However, that's just not really what the NFL is done lately. And it's, it's a lot easier to get
Starting point is 00:29:16 worse at quarterback than better at quarterback. And so while I don't personally, like, I'm not a huge C.J. Stroud guy. And I think he's really strong. Even his rookie year, the stats were there, but you saw some struggles on tape. I, I just can't help but feel like they're going to extend them anyways and and just, you know, play the long game with him and hope he develops. And that's a big part of it, too, is like, QB development isn't linear. It's not the same for every player. And, like, he's kind of the same guy they drafted. They need him to take a step forward.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I think hopefully the offensive line settled. Hopefully they can lean on a run game. And that will get, you know, some favorable down and distance situations for Stroud, which he really hasn't had the last couple seasons. It is a lot of third and eight, third and ten. They can't really rely on play action. and he needs all those things to kind of descend a little bit. I've always comp C.J. Stroud to Jared Goff.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And we've seen Jared Goff when he doesn't have the correct circumstances around him and it's not pretty. But when he does have everything going right, it's beautiful. I think Stroud's a very similar player where it's like we just got to get a little bit better on the run game, got to get a little bit more efficient, getting those favorable down and distances. And I think maybe, just maybe he takes a step forward. So I'm going to bet that Houston just extends in,
Starting point is 00:30:25 even though I've got a lot of issues with the tape so far. Yeah, I think it's an interesting one because I think, Houston could end up going to winning 12, 13 games again, and they're going to end up boxing themselves out from getting access to any of the younger quarterbacks that I think would be a threat to them. So you end up getting into like this cycle of good enough to win a lot of games, but is he good enough to make a Super Bowl? And I think sort of that's what they're in with C.J. Stroud right now. Speaking of Stroud, talking about the former Houston quarterback, got to get back to Cleveland here, because early indications are Deshaun Watson spending more time running the first.
Starting point is 00:31:00 team than Schroeder Sanders is. This one, I mean, I don't surprise is not the right, right word, but I would have thought it would have been a little bit more of a 50-50 type thing. It seems like Cleveland and Todd Munkin, or maybe it's the front office and Todd Munkin's doing what he's supposed to do, are really leaning into a Deshaun Watson type comeback here. Where are you out on this one? This one feels a little weird. Yeah, yeah. I fully expected. this if I'm being transparent. You know, there's very likable things about Schroeder's game, but there's some also
Starting point is 00:31:36 very big red flags. And so I think Watson being the vet that he is on the contract that he's on, like, you don't bring him back to this room if you're not expecting him to be a player and be a starter for you. It just doesn't make sense. Like if you're going to bench him, he might as well cut him. And so I think they're going to give him the opportunity to win that job. So it really doesn't surprise me.
Starting point is 00:31:55 There is a good quarterback somewhere in there. It's been a long time. we've seen him. But, you know, I think for Shadur Sanders, who still has to learn the nuances of the quarterback position, he's got to learn to keep himself out of trouble and stop taking sacks and inviting pressure into his life. Deshawn, being that veteran presence, should kind of insulate him a little bit from damage. And I think that's the goal. Yeah, this really doesn't shock me. I'm pretty sure he'll start week one for them at this point. And then maybe he loses the job somewhere along the line, but I think for now he's the starter for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:32 So talking about starters, let's talk about Mackay Lemon. And any sort of a slow ramp up for Mackay Lemon seems like it's just not going to happen. The Eagles had him running with the first team. There's been a lot of positive speak from offensive coordinator Sean Mannion. They said that he made a tremendous first impression. He's a true pro. All sorts of like positive vibes here. I know that with Mackay Lemon,
Starting point is 00:33:00 you and Scott sort of talked about the maybe the weird fit that he has with this offense, but it certainly feels like Philadelphia is trying to make this become a thing. Well, they better. They drafted him in the first round, Theo. They don't really have a choice, you know. But they bring in a Sean Mannion who's such a heavy, well, I should say, we don't know what he's going to do yet
Starting point is 00:33:23 because he's never called plays. But coming from Green Bay and the LaFloor offense, there. It was so heavy 12 and 13 personnel that like I think top five in the league. And so that's taking a receiver off the field. McCailleman profiles is a slot only or super duper slot heavy kind of guy. So that's that's the the cloudiness. And then you drafted a tight end and Stowers who's mostly a big slot type. You already have skinny Batman Devante Smith who's also a slot heavy type. So I think it's just it's really hard to kind of piece this together how it's going to work. It's good to hear that there's some hype coming out of OTAs. I think Skinny Batman
Starting point is 00:34:01 could probably play on the outside, but, you know, some of this too is Devont, Dontevi and Wix sounds like he's unhappy with this contract, wants a new contract, but he's probably going to play one of their outside spots. So for me, it just comes down to, like, for famous members, is how much 11 personnel are they going to live in? And when they're not in 11 personnel, how many of those routes is McKay Lemon running? It seems like that number should be relatively low. for what we're looking for here. But hey, I'm excited about the hype. Yeah, I think when it comes to Mackay Lemon,
Starting point is 00:34:32 I think that they're going to force it to happen. So I think this offense could be a little bit different. I've talked about Mackay Lemon as a target in like round eight where I don't have to push him up, but I'm going to get access to a wide receiver who I think is going to be on the field a lot. And I think I's a chance to be the number two target in the passing game. So I think we'll butt heads on this one throughout the summer
Starting point is 00:34:53 and I'll try to break you down slowly when it comes. comes to Mackay Lemon making an impact this year. I'm going to try to break down Scott Barrett as well, but I'm into McKay Lemon right now. I continue ripping through these OTAs. Some interesting names. Another rookie wide receiver, though, that's getting a little bit of buzz here. And every time you see a video of the guy, you get like a little more excited.
Starting point is 00:35:17 There was a side-by-side video of a Mecca Egbuka and Ted Hurst. And Ted Hurst, man, like, He's an absolute dude. We knew this from being down in Mobile. And shout out to DeBrow. This is one of DeBrow's guys as well. But Ted Hurst out of Georgia State, another third round pick. Tampa Bay is pretty good at identifying wide receivers that can help them out.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And I think they did it again with Ted Hurst. But the early vibes are terrific. He just looks the part, Brett. Like he's big and fast and fluid. And I think he's going to have a valuable role in this offense. Totally. I mean, he, when they've done, drafted him, my mind immediately went to the idea that he's going to be their ex-receiver.
Starting point is 00:36:00 It sounds like, from what we've heard from Zach Robinson, that that is indeed going to be the case. That moves at Mecca-Ek-Bucah off the line of scrimmage a little bit, which I think is really good. I think I'm Bucha's strength is as the flanker or in the slot there. So that's great. So, yeah, I'm pretty bullish on Ted Hurst. Maybe not for this year, Theo. He's still going to be a rookie from a small school, need some time to acclimate. But for dynasty purposes, I really like Ted Hurst. Yeah, I think Dynasty is the way to handle it because I think Chris Godwin being there, like I'm going to all say that I think, and this is not like some like revolutionary concept here, but I think when you look at the Tampa Bay wide receiver two in 2027, that's the pathway for
Starting point is 00:36:43 Ted Hurst where I, Jail Macmillan's a good player, but I think that Ted Hurst has a pathway to being the number two wide receiver opposite of Mechegbuka in 2027 just takes over for Chris Godwin in 27. This year, there's sort of a lot of mouse to feed. It's going to be Egbuka. It's going to be Godwin. You've got Tess Johnson mixing in, Jalen McMillan. We've got a comment here. So, yeah, I'm going to say Ted Hurst, really fun player for Dynasty, but I don't think it's one you necessarily need to reach for in bestball or certainly in redraft. I think he'd be a frustrating player to roster. And we hear talk from Zach Robinson. He's expected to be a true X, which is really what he is, right, Brett?
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah, absolutely, a big, long physical frame. He's got good play strength. He's pretty dense 206 at 6.3. That's more dense than guys like Chris Brazel or Christian Watson over the years who have been that longer frame, but kind of lacked the density to be, you know, a true X receiver. So I think he definitely will play primarily X for them. So we talk about a couple of quarterbacks returning to OTAs. Patrick Mahomes participated in Kansas City's first OTA practice.
Starting point is 00:37:55 which I thought was really interesting. It was throwing and low risk drills. He was wearing a brace. But when you talk about he had a surgery in December with like a torn ACL and LCL for him to get back on the field, not sit this one out, that's got to be a really positive sign. I know like surgery turnaround times are not the same as they were even like five years ago. Everything's so fast-tracked. But this one surprised me a little bit. I know that Kansas City signed Justin Fields this offseason.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I was fully expecting maybe having to go through a little bit more Justin Fields this off season than we wanted to see for like Patrick Mahomes bagholders or dynasty managers. Where are you at with this one? Were you expecting this or is this something that's like a positive surprise? Yeah, for me the question's always been like I assume the homes would be available week one or really shortly thereafter. the question for me has always been, what does he look like? Like, obviously he's got the arm and the mind to play the game, but we can't deny the fact that his play style is that super, you know, out of structure, creative playmaking stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And that's really what carried this otherwise garbage offense last year, where it was Mahomes moving the ball, moving the chains with his legs. It was Mahomes continually breaking the pocket to find guys downfield. it's if that's at all limited, like it is a positive he's back in the lineup, obviously. But if that's at all limited, you do have to wonder what the ceiling for this offense is. And it really starts to get me excited about a guy like Kenneth Walker, the third, who feel like I didn't love the fit at first, you know, when Kenneth Walker signed there, because this is a team who traditionally is bottom in the league in run percentage.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I think their pass rate over expectation has been top to the last three seasons. And so I really didn't love the fit, but now that I'm thinking it out, like, well, maybe there are anticipating Mahomes not being so much of that creative playmaker with his legs. And so they need to rely on a run game. It could be wheels up for Kenneth Walker, a guy we've had to patiently wait for for four years. Yeah. So with Kenneth Walker, I sort of made the bear case for him because of his ADP. I think the way things are headed, I think Kenneth Walker is probably going to be like the 10th pick in fantasy drafts when we get to the month of August. Yeah, he's at the one two turn now. you're having to take them at like that 13 through 15 range, sometimes at like the 12 spot. But I think that the way it's heading, I think people are to get more excited about this situation where people are more willing to trust Kansas City than they may be a Devon A. Chan in Miami, the sort of backs that are also going around the one two turns. So I think Kenneth Walker, to me, it's just an ADP price tag issue. but I agree he's set to have it a fantastic season.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I also think that if it was Justin Fields for like a game or two, three games, whatever, that would be a decent fit for Kenneth Walker because Justin Fields is always sort of an underrated checkdown guy where he will check down a little more than maybe people will give him credit for. Yeah, that's the one that picture. Kenneth Walker has not been skipping anything day in the wait room, Brett. He's ready to rock. So I think that I'm with you. It's just for me, I don't know if I'm comfortable paying the one-two turn, that 12 overall type price tag.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Let us know in the chats, is that being a little too pessimistic? Are you willing to take him at that sort of range? Yeah, let us know. Interesting player to talk about another quarterback who returned to the field. We got some peptide comments in the chat. This is getting a little interesting. another player who returned to the field after an injury, and I think this is really positive news, is Daniel Jones. He participated in individual passing drills and some position work.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And this is also six months after suffering a torn right Achilles tendon injury. So like for me, the Daniel Jones one, that's even more impactful than Patrick Mahomes almost because I'm getting able to draft Daniel Jones as a QB3 in best ball. rafts. And Daniel Jones last year was a QB1 in terms of points per game was really good in this offense. They bring back his guy, Alec Pierce. They give him the bag. You got Tyler Warren headed into year two. You've got optimism for a Josh Downs bounce back year. And then of course you have Jonathan Taylor who's been tremendous in games that Daniel Jones started. The splits have always been really good with Jones and Jonathan Taylor. So talk about sort of Daniel Jones. We thought maybe we'd see some Riley Leonard early on here.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I think that that's not going to happen. It feels like Daniel Jones will be there for week one. And Daniel Jones was adamant that he's going to be ready for week one, ready to start week one. So I'm sort of into this one. I think this is actually a big fantasy football news. This is huge because now you don't have to worry as much about your Alec Pierce shares, your Josh Down shares, or your Tyler Warren shares.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Because, man, if it had to be Riley Leonard, and you might as well just kiss all of that goodbye. So, yeah, Jones being, I mean, I think him being a participant, even if it's not full in OTAs, is a good signal that he'll be there for camp and he'll be there in week one as the starter. And I think, you know, you take away,
Starting point is 00:43:29 you look at his resume last season, you know, detached from the initial ankle injury into the Achilles, really impressive stuff where it's like, this guy was running one of the best offenses in the league, the past game was efficient, the run game was efficient. You got to be excited about that.
Starting point is 00:43:45 This is absolutely huge news for fantasy. Like for me, I have a ton of dynasty shares of Alec Pierce, and like I'm pretty excited to finally see him in a role where he's getting more than 80 targets a season. And Jones is a big part of that equation. So I think this is big time. Yeah, I'm with you. And I think this is one where if you're playing underdog
Starting point is 00:44:06 or draft king's best ball, getting Daniel Jones as like your quarterback three is going to end up being a huge edge. And he gives me the ability. to sort of wait on quarterback, you can start out a draft really easily right now with like a Jackson Dart or if you want to wait a little longer, get a Matthew Stafford and then get a Malik Willis, get a Daniel Jones, get rushing upside from potentially two out of three guys. And Jones, again, like even if he regresses a little bit from last year's points per game,
Starting point is 00:44:36 you're still talking about a guy who's going to give you top 15 quarterback finish with potential for even more. So I think people are sleeping on this Indianapolis Colts team a little bit. AFC South feels like a really, really good division here. Your thoughts on the AFC South right now after Houston, or is it Houston? Do you think this is a Jacksonville? Houston is Indianapolis playing spoiler here? Where are you at in terms of this division and the way you think it heads?
Starting point is 00:45:03 I think Houston still has to be the frontrunner just because the roster is in such a good, healthy place. And as long as they get average QB play from C.J. Stroud, they should be good. But I do think the level of competition in this division, which two years ago was completely laughable, Theo. This was easily the worst division in football. That's now pivoted to probably the NFC South. But all of these teams seem to be on the come-up.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Jacksonville had their glow-up last year, and they looked really great. The Colts were on that path until the Daniel Jones injury. They lost the final seven games of the season, but they were in the driver's seat for most of the year, and then it fell apart. And then Tennessee Titans, you've got to love their entire off-season. So while I do think the 10th,
Starting point is 00:45:40 Texans are the frontrunner here. This division as a whole is a lot more competitive than it's ever been. And so maybe thinking this out loud, Houston gets to like 11 wins this year, not 13. But ultimately, I'm, you know, I think all these teams in this division are definitely ascending. Yeah, I agreed. And Tennessee is probably a year away, but Tennessee is definitely going to be improved with Robert Sala and Brian Dable, some stabilization there. And then the improvements that they've made to that offense, I think we'll be seen really quickly and defense for that matter. guys like we like the Kendrick Falk Pilk pick and all that sort of stuff. Let's talk about Lamar Jackson. Not really anything crazy, but this is one where we thought Lamar Jackson might miss more of
Starting point is 00:46:21 OTAs because he'd hold out. He returned. Lamar Jackson missed three sessions during the first week of voluntary OTAs. They're trying to rework the contract there, but he returned, got in some work. Sort of your vibes right now with Lamar Jackson bounce back season, potentially under Declan Doyle. Jackson steamed back. He steamed back up to the QB2 in terms of ADP, like an underdog, FFPC. So you're not getting any sort of like Lamar Jackson discount. I think the fantasy marketplace was like, yeah, whatever, the guy was banged up last year. It's going to happen. It's nothing to worry about. Are you there with Lamar Jackson or your confidence level is strong? Well, I'm excited to see Lamar in an entirely different offense than anything he's ever
Starting point is 00:47:06 ran before. This is basically going to be a Sean Payton offense. It's Declan Doyle, via Ben Johnson, via Dan Campbell, via Sean Payton, right? So, and Declan actually was with Sean Peyton in Denver before he was with Ben in Chicago. So I definitely, like, this is going to be a much more structured offense for Lamar, where it's back foot hits, ball comes out. There's going to be a heavy diet of design throws still. He'll get a lot of screen opportunities. But ultimately, like, he's going to be playing in running a dropback passing game,
Starting point is 00:47:34 and he's going to be asked to do it in structure. And it doesn't mean he won't have the rushing yards and, and make the plays out of structure. I just think it's going to be a little bit more disciplined than what we've seen, you know, from the last two-quarters Monk and Roman there in Baltimore. So I'm excited. I think the one thing the system does
Starting point is 00:47:51 is it mitigates poor skill players. And I don't know that they have a ton of talent at skill with an aging Mark Andrews and his A-Flour's their kind of top two targets. But I'm excited to see Lamar and this new, completely different structure offense here, where it's going to ask a lot of him, but it should make his life a lot of.
Starting point is 00:48:08 easier. Yeah, for me, I'm most excited about seeing Zay Flowers this year. Can he have an extension? Declan Doyle, if he makes Baltimore, like, he doesn't have to make them extremely pass happy, but I don't think that I think the chances of a Ben Johnson influenced offense being dead last in the NFL in past attempts is probably pretty low. If he, if Baltimore is like 24th in past attempts, that would be like a big win for Zay Flowers. That's exactly what I'm getting at, because some of that's self-inflicted by Lamar. Like, you know, they had this crazy, you know, heavy personnel dropback game where he, it just invited him to scramble. So some of those lower pass attempts are the scramble opportunities for Lamar, where now I think the more structured passing offense will invite more pass attempts.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I think that's going to be a win. Do you think this could also lend itself to Lamar Jackson, maybe the rushing numbers not reaching what they were? I mean, the idea of him rushing for a thousand yards. maybe we lower that bar down to the 650 to 700 yard range, but maybe the touchdown rushes could go up, sort of like what we've seen with Josh Allen, where he's really effective getting into the end zone, but the raw numbers might not be quite as high.
Starting point is 00:49:24 For sure. I mean, in Lamar, part of the skill set here with him aging is he's entering his 30s is like, well, he does need to be a lot more selective with how he runs the football. And so, yeah, I do think, think the the raw rushing output maybe comes down, but you could see a spike in rushing touchdowns. But ultimately, he just has to stay healthy. And I think, you know, this, this offense should lend
Starting point is 00:49:46 to that him staying more healthy. Yeah. And the quote from Lamar Jackson about his contract, which expires after the 2027 season is he absolutely wants to remain a raven, loves the raven, loves the organization, loves the city. And I think, you know, just my own personal thoughts, you know, I'm down in the DMV a lot. When you go into Baltimore, I know a lot, I know a lot of of Ravens fans. It's like, uh, the, the city embraces Lamar Jackson. Like he is the Baltimore athlete right now. So he says this is the team that drafted me. I love the Baltimore. I love Baltimore. Everybody should know that by now. I don't anticipate anything different here. I think Baltimore is going. I mean, they went with Lamar Jackson over John Harbaugh,
Starting point is 00:50:27 essentially. Like, it felt like there had to be a break there. And they went with Lamar Jackson, of course. So I think the idea that he was going to play anywhere else in 2027, I think, that that is really wishful thinking for other teams and he'll absolutely be a raven. Any sort of vibes there, Brad, or he think it's sort of like the guy's going to be a raven for life type vibe. It feels like he'll be a raven for life. They didn't trade him after the last disagreement they had. I don't think they're ever going to. Yeah, that's sort of the way to look at it. Let's quickly touch on Tampa Bay where we're getting some very, very negative vibes with Bucky Irving. The shoulder injury continues to linger. Todd Bowles basically said he'll be ready by the summer
Starting point is 00:51:06 or fall had like a real lack of clarity with that one. For me, I'm head over heels about Kenneth Gainwell. And I also think sort of a candle can start burning for Sean Tucker making an impact this year. Your thoughts on the way the Tampa Bay backfield would look without Bucky Irving if this shoulder continues to be a thing. You know, I talked about this on the Sirius XM show with Joe and Paul Kelly yesterday. And I was kind of already projecting Gainwell to be the lead back here. I think Gainwell's a really good player. I think he's underrated.
Starting point is 00:51:41 You look at the contract he got. He's in that D'Andre Swift, Tony Pollard range, J.K. Dobbins, range got more than Tyler L.Gier, who is, you know, I think the fanis community thought he would get more money than Kenneth Gainwell. And so it's a legit contract. And I think Gainwell has like an every down skill set. Like I think he's a really good player. I thought his tape last year was phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:52:04 and I've kind of been lower on Bucky, you know, and I know the rookie season, he popped and was awesome, but I've been a little bit lower on him. I think last year when he was healthy, you saw kind of some of the things I was concerned about. And now, you know, with him still struggling with an injury, I do think Gainwell, it's like wheels up for me. I have a ton of dynasty of Gainwell, too, so maybe a little bias creeping in, but I need him to perform. But yeah, I'm pretty bullish on Kenneth Gainwell here. Chris Wecht and I have debated this over and over and currently I'm losing that debate to him in the projections, but I think eventually it'll come through for me. Yeah, I think Kenneth Gainwell to the moon right now. And I took Kenneth Gainwell in like the
Starting point is 00:52:42 801 in an FFPC draft the other day that felt like stealing. I think he'll start touching the top of the seventh round with this Bucky Irving news, maybe even some sixth round Gainwell, 73 receptions last year. If Bucky Irving's to miss time, though, like Sean Tucker playing alongside gain well. How valuable would that role be if we took Bucky out of the equation? And I know everyone, Bucky's going to be back at some point, but struggle to stay on the field last year, and he's still dealing with one of the same injuries. Yeah, it's funny. Tucker has like this, it almost feels like a, uh, I don't know, he's got like a weird hive that's always pumping him, right? I've never been a Tucker guy. RB1 overall week that's going to, going to stand forever,
Starting point is 00:53:25 um, where the guy went nuts. Was like a week 17, week 18 season? No, it was, it was like, it was in the middle of the year, Sean Tucker two years ago had that crazy running back one week where he had three touchdowns and they were all like some of the most ridiculous touchdowns you ever seen like explosive runs. Yeah. So yeah, there's a hive. There's a hive out there. There's hive. Yeah, other than that game, it's been inefficient for him. They've given him that goal on roll a few times to end the season and it just he doesn't do a ton with it. So I'm not I'm not overly scared of Tucker. But obviously game ball is not necessarily the archetype that's going to be a bell cow, right he's got an every down skill set but you can't put 20 plus touches out of the game so tucker will
Starting point is 00:54:03 inevitably have to be involved yeah i'm i'm interested in tucker but i want to monitor the bucky irving news when it comes to tucker tucker right now you can get in like round 17 on draft kings i think that's a really interesting value for best ball but gain well is the one go ahead and get yourself some game well in all formats and even if we're wrong on this one and the pessimism with bucky irving is overblown. You're still getting a player in Gainwell that's going to be part of the passing game and has huge contingent upside as like a handcuff. We saw it last year where Gainwell ended up, and I get it. He benefited from the Aaron Rogers dump downs, but that could be part of the Tampa Bay attack as well. I think coaches gravitate towards Kenneth Gainwell as well. He's just an easy,
Starting point is 00:54:46 easy player to roster. Got to talk about what's going on in Green Bay right now with Josh Jacobs, not trying to like litigate the off the field stuff, not trying to like try to guess of what's going to happen legally. But it's no good. Josh Jacobs with some pretty serious charges here. Correct me if I'm wrong in the chat here, if we have any sort of updates that have dropped on Thursday morning. But I think right now the takeaway is it was a handcuffed situation
Starting point is 00:55:17 that we were kind of ignoring a little bit because Jacobs felt so insulated. in this role. But you've got incumbent Chris Brooks and then the hope of many with Marshaun Lloyd, a player that I was way into coming out of USC. Your thoughts here on Marshaun Lloyd and his potential impact as the handcuff running back. Or is it Chris Brooks and Marshaun Lloyd's just not a guy who's going to stay healthy? So what's really interesting to you is on my podcast first read with Joe Marina, we've been going through doing every team's biggest remaining need. Before the Josh Jacobs news dropped, we actually said their biggest remaining need was running back.
Starting point is 00:55:59 They needed to add a competent back here. Marcel Lloyd can't stay healthy, although the talent is obviously there. Then Chris Brooks is just, he's a nothing to me. So like, I am really curious what they do. Do they go the veteran route? Do they go grab Anagia Harris or something like that to kind of prepare and triage a situation in case that they, you know, they miss out. on Josh Jacobs.
Starting point is 00:56:20 It does sound, did I read correctly that they're not pressing charges on Josh Jacobs at this time? And that's what it's, yeah, that's what it sounds like the latest update is they're, they're not pressing charges at this time. You do worry about the thing that I worry about a little bit is the commissioners exempt list,
Starting point is 00:56:38 like where it doesn't necessarily have to be a, a legal problem with the state of Wisconsin. It's a NFL problem for him. And I think with this. sort of cases, sometimes more information drops and like the court of public opinion could sway one thing. It's just it's just bad vibes right now. Like any way to cut it. Damien Martinez also in the mix. Heck yeah. So it's Damien Martinez still there. I agree with you that I think this is a they go get a veteran. I think that it's not going to be Najee Harris. I think there's been some speculation
Starting point is 00:57:16 from Arizona Cardinals, beat reporters, that could be one of their guys. I mean, they're the team that has a bunch of backs. That would make some sense. And Connor makes a ton of sense because he did the contract adjustment to stay, but that also means he's more easily tradable, that contract can be moved.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And he's buried behind Love and Alger seemingly. So like, yeah, veteran dude towards the end of the road, get a chance to possibly go be in RB1 or RB2 at worst, which he wasn't going to be in a crappy Arizona team. So, yeah, that makes a ton of sense to me, man. Yeah, so for me, I think that it's probably going to be a veteran, but it's not always the veterans that we're anticipating. James Connor would just be like a free square one
Starting point is 00:57:58 and would totally turn things around for him in a major way in terms of all of his values, at least for this season. But it could be somebody random. You never know who like Green Bay is valuing internally if they have to go about this route. But yeah, I don't think you can trust Chris Brooks. He's more of a depth piece. Um, maybe, you know, all throughout Miami, maybe a Miami situation if this could be a
Starting point is 00:58:19 Jalen Wright, uh, and Ollie Gordon could one of those guys be on the move? I mean, you start looking at teams and you say, which teams have a pretty strong number three back, which maybe has a little bit of upside to sustain some volume. Uh, and Green Bay at this point, I think would be looking just to add a guy like that, but could be completely overblown. We've talked about the Josh Jacobs, where the ADP is going, uh, was a locked in like two, three turn guy. We're starting to see some fifth round Josh Jacobs exposure. We saw him go in the late third round in another draft where some people are like this is going to be nothing. Some people are
Starting point is 00:58:54 like, I really want to pass on this one. And we're starting to see some dynasty trades involving Josh Jacobs as well, where people are taking a big Josh Jacobs haircut. He was already an older back. Now you've got this hanging over his head. So really a big time player to monitor here. In the chat, somebody says Alvin Kamara, that's one that Scott. Scott Barrett threw out there as a potential Green Bay candidate. I don't know. Camaro feels like a name at this point, Brett. Where are you out on that one?
Starting point is 00:59:22 It's a name, but also I don't think his contract is movable, if I'm not mistaken. I'm looking it up right now, but pretty sure that's a lot of guaranteed dead money. A lot of void years. Yeah, super hard to move that contract, like really, really hard. So I'm going to just go to say that's not happening. And then you've also got the Sabian Williams, Jaden Reed. Jaden Reed had 20 rush attempts in 2024, and he's got a ton of juice as a runner, not a lot of size. Then you've got Savian Williams, who is like this like weapon X type athlete who is huge and powerful.
Starting point is 01:00:02 And I know you're a huge Sabian Williams guy. So could we end up seeing like a Thai Montgomery 2.0 here where Green Bay uses a. wide receiver in like a running back role or uses multiple wide receivers in this sense on like manufactured touches yeah they for sure they're going to have to get creative if they're missing jacobs savion did have like what 120 carries his final year at college but that was mostly as a wildcat quarterback not as a running back so yeah the Aaron jones return in the chat i i there's no chance Minnesota sends erin erin jones to their to their rival the green bay packers that just what it would be it would be too helpful to their team goals,
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