Fantasy Football Daily - Brett Whitefield's Final Mock Draft | On the Clock! NFL Draft Podcast

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

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We'd love to talk, business. It's time to the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoint.com. Top level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle. From numbers to the film room with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. We are back with a draft day edition of On the Clock. The day is finally here. It is Christmas in April. Round one starts tonight at 8 p.m.

I'm joined by Christopher Wecht. I'm your host, Bro Whitefield. What's going on, Chris? I'm just ready. I woke up early. I'm excited to watch Draft Day last night. Let's go. You got to do the yearly tradition.

It's time. Yes, it is time. Any takeaways from Draft Day? That it's a very unrealistic movie about a very real NFL event. Steve Kime says it's the most accurate depiction of the draft. I'd say that. But we must have been asked the question. Is there a reason Steve Kime is currently without a job?

Steve Kime's trying to make trades where he trades up to number one overall and then trades makes a pick and then trades up for another pick and sends all of his first and second round picks for three years and then recoups them all somehow. He hasn't really done that, but I'm trying to think, is he the sucker, though, that gets got like the kid in Jacksonville? I don't know. I don't know. No.

How well that he ever really trades during the draft? Not in the first round. He was seen as a pretty, I mean like the Hopkins trade was seen as a, they were big winners in that. Yeah. Interesting. All right. Well, so with that said, we are going to review my final mock draft of the season.

My only predictive mock draft, I do, I do three. What I would do mocks. And then here is the predictive mock. This is, this took me over eight hours to do. multiple editions. I don't necessarily love where I landed. I think version 5.0 is better than this one. This was version 7.0. So it is what it is. At a certain point, you just got to draw the line in the sand and say, I'm done. I'm filing this. This got sent off to the huddle report. It is a content or a contest mock. So we are trying to win this thing. So with that in mind, as we're going through it, keep in mind, I did not predict any trades, even though I think a lot of trades will happen. I'm just trying to get, the correct 32 guys in.

31 guys in this year. And then I'm trying to get as many team player fits as possible. And I'm just slotting them at their spot. So it won't necessarily be the order, but the way the contest works, it doesn't matter if the Detroit lines pick Devin-Weather Spoon at 6 or 19. It doesn't matter if I predicted the team player fit. I still get three points for that.

So anyways, that said, just keep in mind if you see a guy like way out of place, it's likely because I'm just predicting that somehow, some way that team player fit happens and they make a trade or whatever. So without further ado, let's go five at a time, Chris. I'll announce five picks. You can pick my brain on why I thought process there. All right.

Carolina Panthers, Bryce Young, Houston Texans, Tyree Wilson, Arizona Cardinals, Will Anderson, Jr., Indianapolis Colts, C.J. Stroud. Seattle Seahawks, Anthony Richardson. What's the thought was here? I think we got to start because the main dominoer that everyone's waiting for to find out is what the Texans do it too. And, you know, we've heard Will Anderson, Tyree Wilson, Will Levis, you ultimately ended up doing Tyree Wilson. How did you, you know, what finally led you with that call? Yeah.

So, I mean, I do have decent sources with the Texans. I'm not a source guy, but I have like five or six teams that I do actually have contacts at. Texans happen to be one of them. That said, even people that have better sources than me are 50-50 on this pick. So this is more of a hunch. I was feeling really strongly about this yesterday. As of this morning, I've talked to some people. Not feeling very strong about this, Chris.

I think it is going to be Anderson now. So not a QB, though, is really the important thing, I think, in the grand scheme of things. Yeah, I'm really feeling like the Texans are the one team in this whole thing that's not bluffing. I don't think they like a quarterback after Bryce. And there's no rush. We've talked about this. Like the second they add rookie QB to the mix, that clock starts to speed up. I think if they are going to take a guy, it might be like a Hennon hooker type at 12 or even with a tradeback from 12.

Get three guys in? Yeah. Maybe. They have pick 33 too, so it wouldn't take much to get back. back into the Seattle is like a trade down, came into always, and they have that 20th overall pick. So I could see the Texans maybe, you know,

go and pick 33 in a second round next year to get the 20. Seattle would love to do a trade like that. So if they are going to go quarterback, I'd imagine it'd be throwing a dart at Hendon Hooker. Ultimately, and I tease it later, but I think there's a small chance Mac Jones ends up a Texan by the end of the weekend. Interesting. And you'll see how that all plays out later,

the mock but anyways i i don't think they're bluffing i don't think they like the quarterbacks in this draft so they they're they're going to get a a defensive stud and then you've got will anderson going to the cardinals that seems pretty logical but probably means they're not trading back like we've heard them reported to want to do many many times at this point yeah so this was version 7.0 in the previous six versions of this mock i had paris johnson junior at this pick with the idea that Cardinals find a trade partner. Maybe it's to seven. Maybe it's to six, even five.

I don't know. They find a trade partner and then they just take the guy they love and the guy Kyler wants. Ultimately, it just made slotting the rest of the mark very difficult to do that. So I ended up just going, hey, we're stuck. We're going to go best player on our board, which is Will Anderson, Jr. Yeah, that makes sense. And I don't think we need to really talk about the Colts. We know they're taking a QB.

Is it Stroud? Is it Levis? And people are pretty up in the arrow. We just know it's a QB. be. But the Seahawks taking Anthony Richardson is not something. I mean, Jalen Carter seems to be being mocked there over and over and over at this point.

Yeah. So I will say one thing about the Colts, actually. I did go Stroud on this mock because it seems like Ursa is involved. He likes traditional pocket passers more. I can't buy the Levis hype. I just can't do it. Everybody I talked to says, no, it's all smoke. He's going to fall.

Everybody. So I was torn between Richards because Richardson seems to fit Stuyken's success record better than Stroud, right? From the skill set standpoint, basically just what he did with Hertz. With Hurtz, yeah. You know, does Stuyken want to do that, though? Do we actually know that that's what he wants to do? Or would he prefer just having a developed passer like right away? I mean, he came from Herbert and Herbert is not what Hertz is at all.

I mean, he's mobile, but he's more on the Stroud spectrum, for sure. In fact, a lot of people have compared Stroud. I think Thigh Nordstrom, his com for Stroud is Justin Herbert. So anyways, long story short, that's why I went Stroud to the Colts instead of Richardson. I've heard, so I don't have any contacts in Seattle, but I have friends that do. And they've all told me they absolutely love Richardson. I was torn here, though. I thought Carter could be an option.

The thing that scared me with putting Carter here is 50% of the Seattle beatwriters is say there's no chance. They're off Carter. they won't do the character thing. It's just not happening. We've seen that. I think it was Sauce Gardner last year to the Jets. Pretty much every beat writer said, no, it's not going to be Gardner, not going to be Gardner.

And a couple national guys thought it would be, and it ultimately did. But yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a pick more, a top pick split this much than the Seahawks and Carter, if they would consider him around. Because this isn't like the Texans pick where it's like, oh, it could be Will, it could be Anderson, it could be a QB.

This is literally just, will they even put this guy on their board or not? And I've never seen it this split. In all of my other versions of the mock, I had Richardson outside the top 10. Like, if you look at the track record of the NFL and these types of quarterbacks, it's not great. Like Josh Allen kind of went later than people thought. He was a third QB taking that draft. Lamar Jackson went pick 32 of the same draft.

Jalen Hertz went in the second round. it's Malik Willis fell to the third last year. Like the NFL doesn't value these guys as highly as I do. And I've, you know, learning from past mistakes. So I wanted to stick with him outside the top 10. But ultimately, when you think about what Richardson's going to need to succeed, it's that incubation period, right? Like Detroit's a great fit, obviously.

They're not going to get a shot at him here. But Seattle's probably the next best thing. And I wrote that in the mock. Like, they have a defined culture. That culture is, you know, 12 years in the making. Like really good environment to come in. They've got great weapons. Their offensive lines pretty good.

And they have a veteran coaching staff. So it just a good spot for him. The one QB we've possibly seen him compared to the most is Cam Newton, who went first overall. So it's not crazy for, I know it's been a while. The difference to me and all the other guys we just talked about, though, can single-handedly carried a team to the national championship on his back. Sure. Winning absolutely matters to a lot.

of evaluators and Richardson just you know Florida wasn't bad when he was there but they just weren't good enough I think but anything else in this top five now let's let's go next five at pick six I got the lines taking Devin Witherspoon pick seven the Raiders going Paris Johnson Jr. tackle Ohio State the Falcons are going Bejohn Robinson running back Texas I have the bears going Lucas Van Ness Edge Iowa and the Eagles going interior defensive line Jalen Carter. All right. Lions, Devin Witherspoon, literally everybody is mocking that at this point.

I don't know if it's a lock, but it certainly seems as close to a lock as we can get to this draft. I'm sensing a trade here between potentially the Raiders and the Eagles at this point. I've not seen Paris Johnson really mocked to the Raiders at this point. They're usually getting a corner, sometimes at D-Lyman, if one of the big guys falls. what do you think happens there? Yeah, I don't, I was struggled between Gonzalez here and Paris Johnson. It was tough, but yeah, I see a trade. I see the Eagles coming up for Jalen Carter, whether that's to seven or to eight.

But I think there's enough smoke with the Bears wanting Carter. It's been reported they told Carter that he, you know, if he's there at nine, they'll take him. So I think the Eagles are going to come up either to seven or eight. But ideally the Raiders aren't in the best spot. They need offensive line help. They need everything. They do need everything, though. I could see them go on edge rush or two,

especially if a guy like Tyree Wilson does fall. For whatever reason, I could see them going Tyree here. And then the Falcons end up biting the Bijon bullet and build a crazy running game. Yeah, crazy running game. Arthur Smith, obviously, you know, I wrote in the article, he's a unicorn chaser. You know, he's already reached for pits. And I shouldn't say reach, but he's, you know, spent a lot of draft capital on pits in London. And I think Bijon now is another unicorn he can chase.

And he can't make it work with those three guys. I mean, good luck. Good luck in the future. What do you think Bejohn's floor is? His floor? If you had to say, I don't see him going later than this pick. I'd say 18. To the lions.

I'll say 19 to the bucks. There's obviously a chance the Lions pass on him, but I think 19 to the bucks. All right. So 8 to 18 is where Bejohn likely goes. The Bears taking Lucas Van Ness is a little interesting in that you said that you think they'd be pretty interested in Carter. Is that a little bit of a, you know, we just take the next best. de-leignment on our board and go from there? I think they like three guys here,

Nolan Smith, Lucas Van Ness, and Darnell Wright. Darnell Wright's got some off-field concerns, which not concerns of mine nonetheless, but I've heard from multiple league people that it is a concern, so I think he's going to fall. He kind of skyrocketed the last few weeks in mock drafts. He's my number 10 player on my board,

so I've always kind of seen him as a top 10 guy. But anyways, you know, Van Ness, I think is a seems like a Bears dude. I've got it, you know, decently sourced that that's kind of what they'll go with there.

So it's, I don't, this is a pick I don't love by any means, but I had to put Van Ness somewhere. So. Yep, that makes sense. And then what do you think the Eagles

are giving up to get Carter? Is it just a second round pick? Yep. Maybe not even that much. Maybe a third, third this year, a fourth next year or something. That's not bad.

Depends how high they have to, if they just go into eight, leapfrog and one team, I don't think the Falcons will require a whole lot there. Yeah, this is what I think the Eagles want to do. I think worst case scenario is Carter. They have no shot at Carter. Wilson and Anderson are also gone.

And maybe one of the best O-Lyman is there for them. But if Carter makes it past Seattle, I'd be shocked if they are not trying to move up at that point. Yeah. Yeah, and they'll probably have some competition. I think other teams behind them, like the Titans, the Texans even maybe could come up. But I think worst case for the Eagles, they end up with like a Peter Skorovsky or something.

Right. You know, which it's not the end of the world. No. All right. Picks 11 through 15. Tennessee Titans, I have going Peter Skoronsky tackled Northwestern. Houston Texans going wide receiver, Ohio State, Jackson Smith, and Jigba. The Green Bay Packers, and this might be the biggest wrench in my whole mock is Brian Branch,

defensive back Alabama. New England Patriots at 14 going Will Levis And then 15 the New York Jets going A cornerback Christian Gonzalez Yeah so we got a lot going on in this This five pick range Wild five picks here So let's start with the first one

So Tennessee takes Skoronsky There's been tons of talk of Tennessee Trying to move up potentially to get a QB You don't think that happens Like I said in previous editions of this mock, I definitely had that mocked. I had them getting Richardson,

whether that was via trade-up or standing pat, but it just doesn't work out here. I don't think they're going to be on Levis. I don't know how you pivot from being into Stroud and then Richardson to then Levis. They're just all very different guys. So it seems like more smoke and mirrors to me. Ultimately, though, the reason I put Skoranski here is like,

A, they have massive holes on the offensive line with Taylor Law on departing. their O-line wasn't good with him last year. So it's like they need an offensive tackle and I needed a spot to put Skoronsky because I got to a point where I wasn't sure where I was going to put him. So it's like I'm kind of just throwing a dart out of board with this pick, full disclosure. Yeah, it feels 11 to 15 feels like his range to me. I think he goes somewhere in those picks.

JSN to the Texans. It just feels like them adding, you know, adding a good player and building around a team to eventually drop a QB in either whether it's Hooker or or next year. Yep. Exactly. Yeah. In this scenario, they're not going QB. So they're grabbing, you know, best defensive guy on their board and then best offensive guy on their board with the next pick. So all right. And then yeah, let's let's talk about the Brian Branch thing. That's that's a big one. Yeah. So branch. So I racked my brain trying to figure out, well, one of two things. One, did the Packers feel like they needed to get ahead of the Patriots for a player?

Or was this just, you know, because I want to moment, you know, the draft day moment where hey, give me David Putney. Yeah, get the special teamer. Why, why David Putney? He's like, like, because I feel like it or because I want to or something. So, like, is that what this was or did they actually feel like they needed to get in front of the Patriots? So in this, in this situation, I just, I racked my brain trying to figure out, okay,

let's pretend like they did do it because they wanted to get in front of new. England, who would that player be? Who is the most New England guy in this draft class? It's Brian Branch. And the Green Bay Packers happen to have the biggest history, the most recent history of just drafting defensive backs in abundance. They've drafted 10 dbs in the first or second round since 2014. They averaged more than one a year, which is crazy. Three of those guys were safety. So while safety has kind of been devalued by the league, they, it has not stopped them from drafting safety's in the first round. I think Branch is a safety slot corner combo for them. He's the type of player that they don't want to move forward with Darnel Savage, or at least they have to make a

decision on that. It just seems like a perfect match to be. And it is going to surprise people, but I feel really good about it. Yeah, I like the thought process a lot. I mean, a lot of people are putting JSN to the Packers at 13. That's why they won't leap the Patriots because the Patriots also seem to need wide receivers. But it just goes against everything they've done for the past like decade. Why once your Star QB is gone, then do you say, yeah, let's get some skill players for Jordan Love? They could easily just say, let's just continue to build our defense.

That's how we'll win with a not as good quarterback. Yeah, same with the Patriots too. Like, they don't draft receivers in the first round either, really. I know they took Nikiel Harry in recent memory, but before that, it was Terry Glenn. Yeah, it's been a while. So, like, not a big history there. plus to mix it in they weren't really connected to JSA

it's been Zay Flowers this whole process So if you think they're gonna go receiver I'm thinking it's gonna be Zay But anyways I have them going Will Levis in this mock It just sounds like that They really do want to move on for Mac Jones So

I don't know Yeah that's where do you think he goes then Who Mac? Yeah I mean they're not I mean is it a guarantee Do they let him battle it out Do they just say we're done and move on? They could let him battle it out.

It seems like Bill O'Brien is trying to add some calm to the manner. Like, hey, like, let's give this kid a shot. I know you've had, you know, Devin McCordy openly lobbying for Mack Jones to get a shot in New England, like basically saying, hey, his struggles have not been his fault. I think ultimately, like, there's a certain mentality Bill wants in his players, especially his quarterback. And I think maybe Mack Jones cracked under the pressure of having to carry that team. And I think Bill saw something in him he didn't like. It probably has nothing to do with performance on the field, to be honest.

It's probably more just a vibe thing. So anyways, yeah, I think they could let him battle it out. Ultimately, though, if they can get value for him, like in a trade to maybe Houston or something like that, I think they would take that opportunity. Yeah, that makes sense. The Houston thing, by the way, like Bobby Sloick, offensive coordinator, was in San Francisco when the 49ers were deciding between Trey Lance and Mack Jones. there's a chance he's in the Mac Jones contingent of that, you know, that debate.

Right. Maybe he thinks they can get the most out of him. Yeah. Patriot, yeah, it's definitely possible. All right. And then you got Christian Gonzalez to the Jets, which is definitely different. I've almost always seen an offensive lineman mocked here. I don't think I've ever seen a corner.

They draft Sauce Garner last year. They had pretty good corner play last year, actually, overall. But yeah, you have him taking most people's second cornerback off the board here. Yep. You know, he's just, it's just a case of, like, best player available. They probably don't expect Gonzalez to be there. And while offensive tackle would be great, you know, why force a pick when you have a chance that a guy like Gonzalez, that scheme really thrives with good cornerback play?

I know Sala is a big-time pass rush guru, but ultimately, like, his best 49ers teams, 49ers defenses revolved. Like, they got, they came alive once the cornerback got better. They had a good D-line the entire time he was there, and they had bad defenses sometimes with good D-lines. So really, that scheme really, like, relies on good cornerback play. I think Gonzalez and Saw us together just as freaking scary. and I think, you know, it's potentially a steal at 15th overall. Yeah, that would give them a strong corner duo for the next decade, potentially. Yep, and then DJ reads a good slot corner there.

Yep. Yeah. All right, we can, let's go to the next five. Yeah, 16 through 20, Washington commanders, Deontay Banks, Corner, Maryland. Steelers are going Darnell Wright, tackle Tennessee. The Detroit Lions are going Atitamua, Etabawari, from northwest. Eastern. Tampa going Anton Harrison, tackle from Oklahoma. Seattle going Nolan Smith, Edge from Georgia. Yeah, I don't think this is, these are too much too surprising. We've seen corners mock to the commander's a decent amount. Steelers offensive line. They need it bad. Darnel Wright seems like the right kind of guy for them too, even if he does. I have character. Like Mike Tomlin's going to get the most out of him. They've dealt with personalities in that locker room for years.

Lions pick is a little bit interesting. I don't know if we've seen out of the war. Yeah, yeah. I don't think we've seen out of Warre be drafted this high in many mock drafts. Yeah. Thought process here. One, Brad Holmes is notoriously aggressive in the draft either way. Like he will move up for guys or he will move back for guys.

Like he will move around the board. He also isn't scared of taking his. his guys. So kind of thinking maybe there is a team player fit here. If there is, it probably doesn't happen at 18, to be quite honest. I think this is a good tradeback spot. We've heard in the last few hours specifically that teams are worried about wide receiver market drying up. I could see a team like the Chargers or somebody else coming up for Jordan Addison or something or Zay Flowers. Anyways, the lines met with Etibori a bunch. He's a traits guy.

Brad Holmes has the history of like pounding defensive line in the draft. He did it in Los Angeles. He's done it in Detroit so far. So ultimately, though, Etiborai's measurements are so insane. His testing numbers are so insane. I can't, I couldn't find an example of a guy that freaky in a Power 5 conference that didn't go in the first round. So this is a lot of just me wanting to get him in the first round. I had no idea where to slot him.

The lions are one of the most tight-lipped organizations as far as what their plans are. No clue what they're going to do at 18. So might as well throw a dart here. Yeah. Going real quick back to the commanders, I just thought of something. So both Chase Young, they did not pick up his fifth year option. Montez Sweat is also going to be a free agent next year. Do you think edge rusher is a possibility for the commanders at 16?

I mean, their defense can kind of need help anywhere if you're looking to the 2024 roster. Yeah, it's definitely a possibility. All the reports are suggesting they're close to a long-term deal with sweat. So I don't think he's going anywhere. The Chase Young thing is simply math. It's, you know, your fifth year option is $17.5 million. If you play well and play the whole year next year, they can franchise him for like 18 and a half or $19 million. So it's like why why guarantee all that money for injury when we haven't seen him play a full season in two years?

Right. Start of 11 games in two years. So I think this is a like, hey, it's on you now, Chase, to like perform and do your thing. And I don't think they'll have any problems resigning him or franchise tagging him in the event that does happen. Yeah. Yeah, they've filled that defensive line with early round picks. So if they suddenly have to continue to keep adding to it because they lose guys or miss. on guys that not the best look for them and they desperately need corner help uh bucks take

anton harrison that is seen like it's being knocked at decent but the buck could really go anywhere though i mean they they need help all over the place uh the seahawks getting no one smith doesn't seem like a shocker from the seahawks point of view but no one smith slipping into the 20s is at least a little surprising yeah this is purely like didn't feel great about any slots If he makes it past the Bears at 9, which he very well could go there, then I didn't know where to put him. Would Detroit consider him at 18? I don't know. He's a little light in the pants.

They don't typically like eddressers like that. They already have James Houston on the roster as well, who's kind of in that mold. So it's like it just didn't feel great. Seattle would, however, be in on Smith despite the weight concerns. And when I watch his tape, two teams stuck out. me, Ravens in Seattle for a landing spot. He feels like a Seahawk kind of guy. Yeah, no, that makes sense.

Yeah, I don't see a lot of teams from 10 to 20 that I'm like, oh, that makes a sense as a fit. So I would not be surprised if him making it out of the top 10 causes him to slip a little bit. Yep. All right. Picks 21 through 25. Los Angeles Chargers, Zay Flowers, Boston College. Pick 22. Ravens going Joey Porter Jr.

Corner from Penn State. Pick 23. Minnesota Vikings going Hendon Hooker, QB Tennessee. Pick 24. Jaguars going Broderick Jones tackled Georgia. New York Giants

are grabbing Miles Murphy Edge from Clemson. All right. Zay Flowers to the Chargers over Jordan Addison, where they're white, you know, he's good friends with their wide receivers coach,

but you end up going a different receiver. Yeah, so I, you know, you talked to me all through the day yesterday. I was pretty torn on this. I had Addison in that slot up until the last, the final moments, Chris. So I don't know. So Addison, you know, his, the wide receiver coach there in L.A. was his guy.

He recruited him to Maryland initially. Then he left for Maryland and went to pit. Addison followed him there. And then when he went to, you, uh, LA Chargers, Addison went to USC to be close to him, is the word on the street. So, like, this dude is like a father figure to Addison.

So it makes sense that they would take him. The thing that threw me off, threw me for a big time loop, Chris, is they brought Addison in for a visit. Yeah, that should be a giveaway that they like him. Like, no, you bring in guys for visits that you kind of have questions on. You're not sure about. if there's anyone in this draft class, they don't have questions on it, should be Addison

because of his relationship with the receiver coach, because his tape is so good. You know, you know exactly what you're getting. So that was one thing. And then ultimately, I think Zay Flowers is probably just a better fit for what they need right now. Big playability, you know, decent downfield threat, better downfield threat than Addison probably. And then, you know, the run after catch stuff, the scheme throws. I think they need playmaking ability. Like, as good as Keenan Allen and Mike Williams are, they're just super vanilla. Like, you know, not a lot of, not a lot of pizzazz of their game. So, yeah.

The charges are a team that don't bring in a lot of guys for a visit in general. That seem to be a holdover from Staley's days with the Rams, who also don't really do it. So it is notable that they bring Addison in and none of the other major wide receivers. Yeah. Ravens taking Joey Porter seems pretty possible. The Ravens need corner help. A lot of people have mocked a close. corners of the Ravens.

The Vikings taking Hendon Hooker. Is this you think something that's really could happen? Or is this something you feel Hendon Hooker is going to go somewhere and I got to fit him in? I've been flirting with this idea for a while, obviously. I was the first guy to mock Hendon in the first round. I've mocked him to the Vikings multiple times. So, yeah, I do think this could happen. But I don't have a source on that.

This is ultimately just me wanting. I feel like Hendon's going to be a first round guy. I wanted to get him in. and since there is some pathway to the Vikings taking him, I just figured this would be a good slot for him. If the Vikings don't take him, is there other spots you could see him going? I could see maybe the Texans coming up from 33 back into the first round.

We talked about Seahawks like to trade back. They trade back in most years. You know, maybe the Texans come from 33 to 20 to take Hooker. There might be some other teams willing to oblige. is Buffalo really going to get the same like they probably get the same player at 27 they'll get at 33 yeah it does feel like

yeah if he makes it past 23 it does feel like it's going to have to be a trade-up though I don't think Jaguar's Giants, Cowboys the rest of the maybe the Saints that's the only one other than that though it does feel like it's going to have to be some team trading back up into the first round

for sure the other thing with Henan and the reason I'm stressing I think he'll be a first round pick we'll on the tape is really good. I know the gimmicky offense, Knox, whatever, I don't care. We've dissected that on this podcast. But two, because the ACL

and the age, you want to get that fifth year option. Like, I do think it's not, it's a little overrated sometimes, but in the case of Hooker, it's very not overrated. It's underrated. You need that fifth year option on him if you're going to take him. Yeah, they can, so you get five years out of him with the fifth year option

and then a franchise tag on top of that if you needed it. So, in like theory, if you want to talk like real real evil plans. He's 25 years old. You could go the full five years, then double franchise tag. That takes him the 32 years old. You got seven years out of him.

Yeah. I mean, obviously you don't want that to happen to the poor kid, but that's like, as a team, you've got to think about that stuff, you know? Yep. No, yeah, I think you definitely want to take him in the first round if a team likes him. Brodick Jones to the Jaguars. This makes a lot of sense to me. Cam Robinson, their left tackle,

actually this morning is getting hit with a suspension for performance hands and drugs. They've been mocked. Really good when I woke up and saw that. Yes. They've been mocked offensive line help in general. Usually it's like a guard like Osiris Torrance. So them adding offensive line here. You want Trevor Lawrence to keep getting better.

Keep building around your star rookie young QB and see where it goes from there. Miles Murphy to the Giants. Not something I've seen super offensive. I do feel pretty good about Miles Murphy going in the first round, though. I think edge rushers will always have a premium, and I think it makes sense to find a spot from somewhere in this, and the Giants defense was bad last year. Yeah. And I know Bob McGinn reported the Clemson guys are falling a little bit, but the traits with Murphy

are just too good to pass on. He's not like Clemson rushers in the past. Like, Shaq Lawson was gifted, but he wasn't near Miles Murphy level gifted. Like Murphy is a bonafide. He's a freak athlete. absolute stud 275 pounds like he's a monster

so I think at some point a team's gonna have to pull the trigger on him in the first yeah all the and all the major corners are off the board outside of Emmanuel Forbes but who it seems like he everyone seems pretty confident he's going to go in the first round but I don't know maybe the Giants don't like his size or something like that so they go edge rusher here

yep should we do the final six yep All right. Final six picks. Dallas Cowboys going Michael Mayer, tight end Notre Dame. Buffalo Bills going Edge, Iowa State, Will McDonald. Cincinnati Bengals going Kalaja Cansey Interior Defensive Line. New Orleans Saints grabbing Jamir Gibbs running back Alabama. Philadelphia Eagles grabbing Emmanuel Forbes cornerback Mississippi State.

And Kansas City Chiefs going wide receiver from USC Jordan Addison. So this obviously at this point. in the draft it gets very difficult to predict laming spots for players and many of these feel as yeah they feel like they're going to go in the first round but not entirely sure where the mayor to the cowboys one seems like a lock the mayor is not going to go later than 26 he is the first tight end off the board though which i think is notable and the and your only tight end off the board for that matter in the first round yeah this just feels like a an easy layup pick like if i if i were to guess on any pick i'd get right and they're like

back 10, it'd be the mayor to the Cowboys for sure. But no, and you don't think any other tight ends go off the board in the first round. Well, we can talk about that in a second. All right, we'll get to that at the end. McDonald to the Bills, they could continue to add defense help. They don't have an awesome pass rush, so McDonald makes sense there. Cancy to the Bengals is a little interesting. Cancy really, I've seen him go anywhere as high as in the early.

teens to all the way back here what do you think about him landing in the bangle with the bengals yeah so for him to be a first round pick and we'll get into guys i feel a little shaky on in a minute but for him to be a first round pick it's going to take a team that doesn't care about physical traits they're not like like trumbalky would probably not draft collagia can see because he's such a traits guy he's such a length height weight guy there's like there's just no way i see that happening so it's going to a team like Detroit who's proven they don't really care like de-line measurables it's more about functionality than trades Cincinnati is another team that has never cared about traits. I mean they played Jonah Williams at offensive tackle for four or five years despite the fact

that he had 32 inch arms. They're just a team that's probably willing to do it. So the scary part is if he doesn't go to one of those spots, it's like where does he? Maybe Dallas is a candidate it for him because they they usually will sacrifice some of their benchmarks for talented players like micha parsons is a good example um coliza though yeah i don't i think he's a great fit though and i think the bengals will absolutely like him they need interior pass rush help and he will give them that for sure yeah that makes sense gibbs landing on alvin camara's team the team that he the player he is commonly comp to even if it doesn't really make sense Yeah.

But is that something you see the Saints really could do? Or do you just think Gibbs is a lock to get into the first round at this point? Yes, for the record, I do hate the Kamara comp. They don't really play the game similarly. They affect the game in similar ways, but they do it. The way they win is totally different. So I don't like that comp. But that said, yeah, this is entirely like, do I want to put Jemir Gibbs in the first round?

Not really. He's the 27th player on my board. though, and then you combine that with the fact that literally every prominent person now in the space, Peter Schrager, Lance Sirline, Daniel Jeremiah, they're all saying Gibbs is going to be a first round. Yeah, they're pretty adamant about it too. And I have no idea where to slot him. So it's like, okay, cool. Saints have won with a guy that does similar things in Kamara.

So let's, and he's obviously in limbo. Let's just, you know, make the match there. Yep. Eagles getting a corner. I don't think that would surprise anybody. Forbes is definitely different than the corners they currently have on their roster. Although they have not been shy about drafting smaller corners in the past, Fonte Maddox is not a big guy by any means.

Yeah, I could see this happening. And then the chief's getting Jordan Addison, some people's favorite wide receiver of this class all the way at 31, Mahomes just gets richer. Yeah, backing up to Forbes real quick. you know from like a size weight standpoint he is different than bradbury and sleigh from a play style standpoint though he is dareslay to me like that is actually my my working comp for him is slay like he's a ball hawk his his movement skills are so fluid and so smooth he he really has

easy time matching route concepts from you know zone coverage you can play with his butt to the sideline very very good player in that regard add us into the chiefs this if this did this would be my favorite pick of the round um you know addison's 15 on my board i think i think that actually might be wrong it says 15 but i don't think it is 15 but he's up there um top 20 guy for sure the detailed like so you remember the playoff game when all of mohomes's receivers got hurt last year yes yeah they were Marcus kemp was running routes yeah yeah and he just they weren't really throwing it at that point they were like everything was like gimmicky and run heavy. Well, like, Mahomes, even though he likes the out of structure stuff, he cannot stand when

guys don't run detailed routes when they're out of time, when they're out of sing. That's why Sky Moore couldn't get on the field last year. Not a detailed guy. Jordan Addison is a complete opposite. He's the most detail-oriented route runner in this class, technically proficient. He will be exactly where he's supposed to be on every single play. And Mahomes is going to eat with Jordan Addison if they get paired up together. He's eating, no matter what. Addison will be eating if he's paired with bones. He's easily the best wide receiver on their roster the second this pick is made.

I mean, 100%. Like that's what I literally wrote wide receiver one, which steps in as wide receiver one. Yeah, and it's not even close. I mean, if they're not getting targets to Addison, they get targets to Richie James or if Skrymore doesn't take a step forward or Justin Watson or. Tony, yeah, whoever.

Yeah. Yeah, he immediately becomes the best wide receiver on their team. Yes. But that's the mock, Chris. That is it? That's what we're going with for Thursday night. So then guys that you left out, I mentioned the tight ends already, Brian Brisei, anyone you feel iffy about leaving out in particular.

Yeah, four guys stand out to me. Dalton Kincaid first and foremost like in my heart of hearts I feel like he's a first round player I something's got to give in this draft though right so I got Dalton Kincaid Osirce Torrance Brian Brisei Smith I like all those guys to go in the first but something's got to give like if you're going to put a Dalton Kincaid in who are we kicking out because everyone says Gibbs is a first rounder everyone says Forbes is a first rounder so I kind of gave into public peer pressure a little bit here because I think Kincade is I mean he is number 15 on my board actually

now that I'm looking at it he's a top 15 player for me and I don't have him in the first round so I don't love that at all like I I would much rather have Kincaid in this mock DJ put him at what pick 13 to the Packers like that sounds right yeah yeah so the range of outcomes for him is crazy a lot of people don't have them a lot of people do people have them as high as 13 so I don't feel good about that.

Torrance, you know, we see interior guys fall a lot. And the fact that there's so many tackles in this class who can also play on the interior, you know, like Darnell Wright can play right guard, Paris Johnson can play right guard, Peter Skorowski can play guard. So it's like, I think that run on tackles, those five, you know, have six tackles going on the first round or five?

Five, right? Is Harrison? Or Harrison makes it six. right. So, yeah, I mean, that that's a thing too. Like, I wouldn't be shocked if the chiefs took Dewan Jones or something. Yeah, they definitely good. But the point being is like, Torrance I could see actually falling out of the second

or out of the first round, even though I think there's a chance he goes in the first round. And then the two other guys, Brisei and Mazzie, they played the same position. Maybe Kansi doesn't go in the first round and you get a Brisei in there or a Mazi. Maybe Jemir Gibbs doesn't go in the first round. the first round and you because the saints need to detackle badly it's maybe maybe uh gibbs doesn't go in the first round or at that pick and then you get a mazie or a brise a brise a in that spot um you also have no uh quentin johnson despite only one tight end you have three wide receivers i think that's pretty interesting four wide receivers right no i do have three three yeah yeah yeah that's the tough part

well and hend and hooker changes math a little bit too right so you're not you don't normally have five QB is going on the first round. If Hooker doesn't go in the first round, that opens a door for a guy like QJ. The interesting thing, too, Chris, is I think there's a chance the Lions take QJ at 18. Yep, I can see that.

You seem to be one of the only first round teams that have spent a lot of time on him. They obviously have a need at X receiver before the Jameson Williams news. Now Jameson Williams is going to miss six games. It's like, I could see them, you know, ramping the need up a little bit. Now, they don't strike me as a team

who's going to draft for need, really. They usually just draft best player available. And I do think the strength of this receiver class is in that day two range. So maybe they get like an AT Perry there. But needless to say, there are some landing spots potentially for Quentin Johnston. I just, I didn't see it happening in this mock. Yeah, he's the toughest guy for me because my brain is saying all these teams aren't going to want all these slot receivers. They're available in the second round.

And some team is going to say we want the big X receiver. But he does feel like the guy that is going to slip out of the receivers. It's crazy. Yeah, it is. It's like, I look at a guy like Zayflowers. I like Zayflowers. I don't have a first rounder grade on him, but he's close. But like, would you, like, honestly,

would you rather have Zay Flowers at Pick 21 or Tank Dell on, you know, round three or Marvin Mims like end of round two? Oh, Mims. Not even, yeah. I don't know Mims or Dell, to be honest. Right. Yeah. I'd much rather have that scenario. Now, obviously, you can't predict 100% where those guys will go,

but that seems to be about the range they're going to go. And they need to be doing their spy work the best they can. But man, like, I'd rather get aggressive with something like that if you really want that inside-out slot player who just brings speed and quickness to your offense. It just doesn't make sense to grab them at 21 in this draft. So then speaking of guys that were you're not totally sold on being round one picks, who are some of the guys that you think could be the swaps for some of the guys that they left out? Yeah, let's see.

Edda Bawaray for sure. Yeah. Like I said that, I haven't seen anyone else really doing that. Maybe. He's that with a lot of top 10 teams that have top 10 picks. I think there is some smoke there to him being a first round pick. Yeah, the thing that worries me about that is most of those top 10 picks in the second round, which could be the range there for a lot of them have late first round picks, though, too, with Seahawks lines.

and Eagles. Is it only see? Well, yeah. Texas is 33 as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point too. So I think he's a guy.

I don't feel confident at all. He's going to go in the first round. I don't feel confident that Gibb, like, even though everyone's saying Gibbs will be a first runner, I'm not confident at all. It's still running back, yes. Yeah, it's still running back. And we saw what the free agent running back market was,

this off season. None of them got real deals. David Montgomery probably did best, right? And it wasn't even anything special. Michael and Sanders basically got the same deal, right? Yeah, yeah, you're right. They're probably very similar. So yeah, so NFL teams don't value running backs in free agency,

but now they're willing to take two in the first round. It's definitely questionable. Chris, two weeks ago, no one knew where to slot Bijan. If you looked at Machdress, like he was going anywhere from 30 to Philadelphia to 10 to Philadelphia. Yeah, yeah. And then all of a sudden now we're forcing two guys in. Like, I'm kicking myself a little bit. I think I maybe should have just booted Gibbs.

And then Forbes would be the last one, you know. Again, everyone's saying he's a first rounder, but he's a hundred and sixty-five-ish pounds. Corner, come on. Yeah. I think the ball hawking ability gets a little bit overhyped, especially around draft prospects. Like, there's definitely a skill to that. but I don't know that it's such a skill that it just oh yeah it's going to carry over a year I've seen we've seen a number of corners not only just play play bad but have a ton of interceptions

one year and not Trayvon Diggs was everyone thought he was going to be you know average like seven picks a year and then he came back this year and that didn't stick out stick at all really he still had a ton of production on the ball though yeah that's what I look for I don't look for interceptions interceptions are usually luck based yeah I look at for ball production. How many times are you separating the receiver from the ball? Whether that's via pick or pass deflection or, you know, driving and blowing up the receiver before he's got chance to catch it and knocking that ball. It's like I, you know, that's more what I look for. And Forbes definitely has that skill. But to your point, Chris, like quarterbacks in college football

suck. I don't know if anyone's aware of that. You know, like, we can't get 32 good ones in the NFL. Yeah, exactly. We can't even get 20 good ones in the NFL. So like the drop off from quarterback. So even from the NFL to college is insane. People don't realize this. It's a lot easier to be a ball hawk in college when quarterbacks are routinely throwing lollipops or routinely just not seeing you there in coverage and just throwing the ball your way.

Like it is a lot easier to be a ballhawk at the college level. I will say that. So anyways, that's my thoughts on Forbes. All right. And then last question. What's giving me your over-under for trades in the first round? What is the official line is what? Four and a half or five and a half?

I don't know if it's not looked this morning. I don't remember. I feel like four. Four round one trades. I think maybe it will be quieter than people think. How many in the top ten? I'll say one or two. Really?

That would be a lot. It's pretty rare for top ten trades. Is it? Okay. Then I'll say one. Did the Carter trade? The Carter trade. I like that.

Yeah, four and a half feels right to me. I don't have a strong lean to the over or the under there. I think that's the right number. Four and a half, you said? Yeah. So I'm going under. Isn't that what you said? We've talked about it nauseam for about how there's just not blue chip talent in this draft.

So who are people trading up for is what I want to know? Yeah. Yeah, I could see the one, like a Carter trade. I could see a hooker trade. Yeah, Carter trade, a Hooker trade. and maybe another. Yeah, one or two other teams moving, you know, maneuvering a little bit. But yeah, that's about it.

Yeah, and when these trades do happen, I'm going to be really curious to see the terms of the trades because I, like, I can't. I'm not going to handle teams moving up, giving up a lot of capital for like position players in this draft. It's just not going to sit well with me. But hey, that gives me good content. So I can write about it. And you and I have developed our draft pick value calculator, which is. is going to be pretty cool. So.

Yeah, live, you'll be giving live takes on your, on the live stream of what, what our, what our model says if teams did good based off of your, it's all based off of your big board. So, if players reach on a guy, it's going to mean because you had them lower in your big board than where they ended up going and vice versa. Yes, sir. All right. Let's get out of here, Chris. Enjoy the draft tonight, everyone.

we will be doing our fantasy points live stream it'll be mostly scott and i for five straight hours with producer thomas and we'll have a rotating list of guests chris is coming on he is doing the 930 to 1030 slot or did we veto that no that's the last you told me so that's what i'm playing i'm being 930 to 1030 slot come see chris say what up and you started 730 right a little bit before the draft we're going to start 730 tom brawley will be the first guest to kind of do our last minute look at the books and see if there's any, you know, plus EV bets to be made there. And then he'll take us all the way up, hopefully to around the Eagles pick. And then I'm getting Joe Dolan on specifically for that pick.

I have to do that. Although looking more and more like it won't be Bijan, which is unfortunate because I really wanted to see Joe jump off his roof in real time. Anyways, guys, thank you for listening. Make sure you check out the Fantasy Points draft stream tonight on our YouTube. We're going to be posting links all day. Bookmark that. See you there.

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