Fantasy Football Daily - CFF All Access

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

In this inaugural episode of CFF All Access, we analyze the first industry CFF best ball of the season, diving into topics like draft strategy, roster construction, our favorite (and least favorite) picks, and some players we want to plant our flags on early in the offseason. Enjoy this podcast and take your game to the next level with CFF All Access. Make sure to like, comment, and subscribe for more valuable college fantasy football content! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey guys, what's up everybody? My name's Josh Chavale, and I am excited to introduce to you guys the first ever college fantasy football podcast over at Fantasy Points. We are calling this thing CFF All Access. But what I'm more excited about than doing this podcast is getting to do this with three of my closest friends in the industry. And so I'm going to let them introduce themselves, although they need really no introduction. But hey, why don't you guys tell them who you guys are, where we can find your work, and then where we can find you on X. Yeah, so I'm Zach Hall.

You can find me over at Fantasy Points with Josh. I'll be doing a lot of our projections, some rankings, a lot of in-season stuff. We'll have a lot more coming preseason here in the next few weeks and months with ADP and all that. But that's where you can find everything that I'm doing. And you can find me at CFF champs on Twitter. I am Mike Bainbridge.

You can find me on Twitter at M. Bainbridge, C.F. I also work at the CFF site, and I contribute prop betting content here at Fantasy Points. I'm Eric Foton, NBC Sports League College Football Analyst and the FSWA 2020 and 2023, College Sports Right of the Year. Last year, myself, and I would say last year, I would say myself and Michael have done quite a bit of college football props collaboration over the past. you know, a few years. And I'm excited to, uh, you know, be here in the college fantasy football realm, which I've been doing for 24 years. I am a college fantasy football OG. If not the OG in the space, I would like to say after 24 years. So, uh, I am proud to uphold that moniker and to,

uh, you know, go out there and stump on the road for the sport that I love so much college fantasy football. I love it. I love it. Well, I'm excited to get all of us together. It feels like this is like a long time coming for us. You know, all of us have known each other for what, 10 plus years. I've been doing, you know, playing together, working together, collaborating, sharing hotels together at the Fantasy Football Expo, kind of doing it all. And so, you know, I wanted to introduce a little bit about why are we doing a CFF podcast together? Why now and then why us? And so, you know, Mike and I have actually been talking about this for a few years about this idea of potentially doing some kind of podcast. But I go, man, this is a lot of work.

Like we have a lot of respect for those that do it. And then Zach and I this last year were chatting and like, hey, we need to get something started. And then Mike, this offseason was talking to me. It was like, hey, you know, I think Froton might want to, you know, have some other outlets potentially for talking about college fantasy football. And so him and I got on what a couple two hour phone calls and we're just kind of dreaming about what all this could look like and to be able to do that, you know, some type of college fantasy football podcast with these two guys, Mike and Zach. And like, look, like, you know, we've been in this space for a long time. And there's just not that much consistent weekly content out there as far as podcasts go. And the ones that are out there are great. But we feel like, man, there should be more voices in this space, more diversity. just hear more opinions and thoughts. And like I said, we've been doing this for 10 plus years. We have these conversations all the time on phone calls.

And so why not bringing this to the masses? And so, Proton, you know, I love getting to talk to you on the phone about this stuff and a podcast and what this can mean for this space. And so I want to give you a little bit of the floor to kind of share some of the stuff that we had had talked about on your trips from, you know, Vegas to California. and all over the country, really. Yeah, well, if there's anything that I've learned, and like you said, I was lucky enough last year we've 10 games on both coasts,

you know, and all in between and some pretty good ones. And in that time, you know, I talked to a lot of people in and around the game, players, coaches, you know, media. And if there's anything that I feel that college fantasy football is lacking, it's just simply awareness. Because once people, as everybody pretty much watching this, knows once you start playing college fantasy football that's the hardest thing is just getting started we're very lucky that there's so many good resources out there right now we're merely one of them

and you know we're proud to be able to do this i haven't done a podcast in a couple years i had done one for fan tracks with scott bogman and john lob a couple years ago i did that for a couple years and loved it and i've been you know waiting for the right opportunity to get back in the space and and this is it to do with some of my good friends and not just friends, but importantly, you know, Josh, Zach, Mike, very educated and seasoned people when it comes to college fantasy football, been around for a long time. Been doing this for at least 10 years. We've seen the cycles come through in terms of recruiting, in terms of, you know, coaching movement, things of that nature. And I just think that the collective, what we have to offer as a group is something.

something that is, you may be a little different than it's out there right now. Though I do love Jared does a great job with the Chasing the Natty podcast. And our friends, Chris Kay and Andrew Katz, also do a great job with burning the red shirt. We love Katz and Kay, of course. And, you know, the G5 hive are coming up, post the titles, are doing a great job. Obviously, everything the campus of Canton does. it's great to see more space more voices in the space and to hopefully capitalize on the 24 college football game which is the first in 10 years and ride that swell of public interest

into growing the sport we love yeah yeah i totally agree and you know and look it's been it's been really fun to kind of get to know all of you guys over the last 10 plus years and again i'm i'm excited to bring those conversations to a microphone and to the masses and to have these conversations. So everybody else can listen in here. And, you know, why us? Like, you know, I think all of us on this podcast, we don't love self-promotion. Maybe others that listen to this will disagree with that.

But that's just not our thing. But one of the things that I love is I love to promote my friends. And so I want to talk about why you guys should listen to these other three guys. And so one, Froton talked about at the beginning of the show. Like, this made us the two-time fantasy. sports writer association of the year in college football. And so, and we, we get the treat of being able to share it, share the mic with him. And, um, and like even more than that, like, awards are cool, but like, Froton wins. Like, he wins a lot of CFF titles in all different

in diverse formats, whether it's best balls or dynasty or redraft. Like, he's winning all those things. And the same can be said about Mike and Zach as well. Mike is the freaking like CFF goat, I think in my opinion. And, you know, we can argue that. I think we would all like trophies back there, Eric. Two time trophy. Let me brag for Mike. He has actually won the the coveted 50 team national championship college football national championship fantasy. However, Thor, I don't know what he even calls it anymore, but whatever. The 50-teamer is how it's colloquially known. And Mike has won that each of the past two years, and that is a no-joke feat. Let me tell you that. That trophy is well-earned, and that's as tough a league as there is

to win, frankly. I appreciate the comment or compliment, but two out of the last three, to be fair. Yes, because of a farce Caleb Williams trade that I didn't win it. Two years ago, but I digress. I digress. Yonkey just hit, he hit accept on that. He didn't even send it out. Look, man, Yonke won everything two years ago. So that was just his year. And then he had a baby. So, you know, we've all had, well, not all of us. A couple of us had babies here. And that can change the game for you.

You'll see if you can bounce back after baby number two. But, but yeah. And then, you know, yeah, Mike's been doing this for a long time in this space. And, you know, both Zach and I, I got my start in this industry working for Mike. And Zach, you know, I don't know if you did or not, but we worked together with Mike over there. And, you know, he's been doing this for a long time. So I'm really excited to be able to do this with him. And then Zach, Zach is like, if Zach is the hidden gem of all of college fantasy football. He is the hands down, the best data analysts.

And he has so much data. And the rest of us have been benefiting from that data for a long time. And so I am so excited to be able to work with him here at fantasy points. But this guy, this last year, like we do this special best ball series with a bunch of different people in the industry called the CFF Best Ball Championship Series where we do 12 best balls over, you know, four or five month period. And it's kind of like the one who wins the most best balls or has the most points at the end of the year wins that, wins the trophy and wins the most money. a lot of money. And Zach won that thing this last year. And Froton got second, so we don't want to slight Froton on that. He won. I think that was Zach's league. Yeah. Eric won the most leagues, but Zach had the most points over all 12, 12 of the different ones that we did. And so Zach is a current,

he's the reigning goat, the reigning champ in my mind of all these things. And so, and again, like this guy, all of us play we play dynasty we play redraft play c2c um and uh and so we are well versed in a lot of this stuff and so i think it's be really fun to be able to do this podcast together and um yeah and because go ahead to stand up for zach you know that's that's definitely something that like you said people in the industry us behind the scenes who go through and parse through all the data and go through you know the get into the minutia of the points and how they're allocated and which systems, you know, all that stuff. Nobody gets deeper in the weeds than Zach does.

And we all know it behind the scenes just because he doesn't, you know, do as much on social media. But I'm very excited in terms of the course of this show what he brings to the table in a way that, you know, that I miss, that Mike misses, just little things that we all miss that, you know, get lost in the data. And it's such a valuable skill set to have. I almost feel like he has, you know, we see this a lot in the NFL space with a lot of the data-driven and very wonky particular scoring and getting into the formats and strategic, you know, way of setting up teams. Zach is as good as it gets with that sort of thing.

And I can't wait to, you know, sit here and learn from him as well, just like the rest of us, frankly. Yeah. I was showing our CEO of Fantasy Points some of Zach's stuff the other day. And he's like, holy cow, this stuff is incredible. And we just started a huge data suite here at Fantasy Points. And so, you know, we know a thing or two about data. So Zach is definitely one of the best for sure. And so, but since we all do best ball drafts pretty much year round and some of us have been very successful at that,

like we decided that this would be the best thing for us to start off. talking about is doing talking about best ball drafts that have been going on in particular Mike did the first industry best ball draft about a week ago and we finished it what two or three days ago and so I wanted to throw that out there and let these guys kind of talk about the strategies and different things that stood out to them as far as their favorite picks from their own teams and then we can talk about the draft as a whole and so we'll get into that here I'm going to share my screen here so you guys and see this draft a couple of things about this. Man, I'm very hesitant to talk about the scoring format of this thing with Froton on here,

but I'm going to do it. And look, Froton's going to have his platform to talk about his passions in the CFF industry, but not. That'll be a whole podcast. We're not doing it tonight. That'll be a whole podcast. Too long intro. Yes. But I'm going to, I'm going to share my screen with you guys, you guys can see that, but the scoring format here is a half PPR league with four point touchdowns. And yeah, I mean, I think that's the main scoring. We have 30. Why is that the main scoring? Why?

Michael, why is four point passing touchdowns the main scoring? Who made it the main scoring? Who did? I would prefer five and split it in the middle. I think you hate me even more. When you split the baby, the baby. dies, Michael, okay? You have to make a commitment. There's no five-point touchdowns in football. Where are they? Show me. Where are they? We already decide it is another podcast that we will address

all these. We're doing it now. We're doing it live. Bill O'Reilly style. Tell me, Michael, why? Why do you continue to perpetuate this myth of the four-point passing touchdown? I need to know. I have no strong opinions either way. I just copied the league from this past year to make it simple and we proceed that way. Okay. The way we've always done it is not an acceptable answer. Hey, can you hear you in this? You are going to change the game on this podcast for a time, but not tonight. Not tonight. I love it. Fair enough. Fair enough. Going forward, again, I'm going to let this know, I love Greg and I love doing the 12 team league. I should have spoken up before that started about the scourge of the four-point passing touchdowns. I didn't. That's my fault. I will make sure that my opinion is

known every single league I joined from here on. I will be demanding that it all is right. Equality reigns. All is put right in the world. And touchdown equality will be a staple of every league I do going forward. And every league that this pod sets up for our viewership. There we go. You, the viewer. I can't wait to talk about Dalvin Smith later in this podcast. This is going to be good. You had to take them. I feel like you're looking, you're thinking about me as you take him in the third round,

which is a disgrace and you know it. Three six, three six last draft. Okay, let's go. Let's go. Okay. So here's what we're going to do for the first half of this breakdown of this best ball. What we're going to do is I'm going to ask you guys questions about your own drafts. And kind of your strategies going into this.

kind of favorite picks, least favorite picks, and then the second half, we will talk about kind of general draft thoughts. And so I'm going to start this off with Mike. And Mike, I want you to talk a little bit about maybe some of your strategy going into this draft and into other drafts this season

as you've kind of seen the layout over your first few best ball drafts. Yeah, I got a late start with the best balls. I wanted to get my projections done first. And then I obviously compiled this draft here on the, on the screen here that you see. And so for that reason, I really had no set strategy coming in, aside from looking at my projections.

I had not looked at ADP that had been generated prior to this. So I really just kind of wanted to look at my numbers, you know, and those will change, obviously, and fluctuate throughout the offseason. But wanted to take a look at those and just no bias here and just kind of go with what I've projected to start this season. So not a lot of strategy from me here. Just kind of let the value fall, look at my projections, and kind of go from there. Yeah.

Yeah. So this one you didn't have, you know, you said you just kind of letting it flow and, you know, going with whatever fell to you. But we did just all do another. Our first, you know, I talked about the CFF Best Ball Championship series. And we just did our first one of this year, first of 12. and you did have an interesting strategy that you played out pretty severely in that draft. And so you want to share a little bit about kind of your thoughts on a late QB strategy that you pulled off in that league.

Pulled off is a generous term. I don't know how good of a strategy it was. But, you know, I think these best balls, especially that we're doing right now, pre-spring, are a good kind of test case. just to kind of, you know, try some things out, right? And I kind of want to have some examples with these best balls that we're completing right now and see how maybe look at the results at the end of this year and see how those do. And so we can maybe develop kind of better best ball strategies moving forward. So I waited essentially until my last eight picks and then just just hammered quarterbacks in the last eight rounds.

I mean, let's be honest, quarterbacks, you know, from broad data or for raw numbers, they're the highest scoring position in college fantasy football. I would never do the strategy in a redraft, right? This is strictly for best ball. And, you know, the top 26 guys, again, from raw number perspective, in my projections are quarterbacks. They're the highest scoring players.

So I felt like that I could wait. wait till the back end of the draft. And obviously you have to manage the buy weeks, right? There's no picking guys up off waivers and such. So I manage it to where, you know, I'll have three to four quarterbacks available, hopefully each week. And we'll see how that works, right? This could flame out by the end of the year, and this team comes in last place, right?

But I kind of want to see what that draft strategy, you know, how it looks at the end of the season. Yeah, Mike, that's interesting because eight quarterbacks in a 30 round league, that's kind of rare. I would say that the average is pretty much six is standard, you know, from where you're seeing. And that kind of, it shortened your bench with the running back. So in response, you took six running backs in the first 10 rounds of the Champions League best ball that we're talking about here. and the other ones, geez, in terms of the first 12, and then six wide receivers. So you went the first 12 rounds, straight skill position,

before you even pivoted to Russell Maryland and, actually, Russell Maryland. RJ Maryland, Russell, Merritt. And Justin Jolly. What was it about those tight ends that made you pivot in that round 13, 14 range? Just guys. it fell, right? I mean, I feel like I had a solidified tight end and drafted in round three with

Dalvin Smith for this format. I know. Here we go. I love that idiot. But again, just let the board fall with those tight ends. And I felt like that was a good spot. They were probably going to come off the board. I was surprised RJ Maryland was available at that point with some of the tight ends that came off the board previous to that. But, um, You know, I just wanted to hammer the skill positions to start. I got some running backs that I felt were going to be, you know, garner the high volume share of carries in the backfield. And I don't know, this was just, I looked at my teams from last year. And I noticed that my kind of mid to late round quarterbacks typically hit where I flamed out with some of the,

the running back. So trying to adjust my strategy for this year and moving forward, and we'll see how it works. Quick question. Last question. Dionne Burks, 12th round, seventh pick. Talk to me. I, well, is, what made that pick stand out to you? Because Nick Anderson, Nick Anderson had as good at freshman,

through freshman season as any wide receiver in the country. I mean, 10 touchdowns. This guy's beasting on the outside. I love Nick Anderson. Don't disagree. Dionne Berg comes in. Deon Burks, I mean, 12-7, that's, that's, you know, number two on Oklahoma. I don't even know if he's number two. Look at the way Julio Farooke gets used. He gets like, you know, he'll probably have 30, 40 maybe carry, maybe not 40, but I think you can see 30 carries for Julio Farooke to go with a pretty good smattering of targets.

And you got Jackson Arnold there. You're two. Five star, ready to come in and deal. You don't have little Dylan Gabriel anymore. So you got a guy with an actual cannon on his shoulder that has pro aspirations. I guess I just, why Dionne Burks? Is it, you know, because I would look at Farooke and say, all right, he would be the nominal number two behind Anderson. Because we don't really have much to see what Burke's going to do in the offense yet.

True. I just feel that, well, to be honest, I, feel like that whole Oklahoma wide receiver group is kind of up in the air in terms of pecking order, in my opinion. And to be honest, this could be an argument against Nick Anderson. I think that group is so deep that maybe, you know, there isn't a guy that should be picked in the top five to ten rounds. I just feel like Dionne Burke kind of goes into that Drake Stoops mold, not the same player,

obviously, but kind of in that same role. And we obviously saw, we obviously saw. We obviously saw how productive that was last year. So, you know, I wanted a wide receiver in that spot, and I felt like he was the best on the board, and I feel like that kind of speaks to my confidence in Jackson Arnold as well. Sounds good. Okay. Thank you.

I love it. Proton, what's been your strategy and a couple of best balls that you've done so far? I would say kind of, first I'm just getting my feet wet and getting used to what you're going. You know, this is all sort of, you know, an exercise for us to get re-familiar. your eyes of the player pool and try to study it the best I can as we go in. But I was drafting from two different positions. So I came from the one seven in the first draft, which the CFF draft. And then from I had the 1-1, which we all have every draft position during the course of the the 12 drafts because there's 12 of us. So in the Champions League, it's we're going to draft from

every position. It doesn't matter where it is anyways. I sappen had the one. But what I found found interesting is that myself and Michael in each draft had an early position. I had the one one. He had the one two in the other draft in the CFF site draft. We both took Genty, Ashton Genty for Boise State as our first running back off the board with Ollie Gordon as second. So I did, I did find that interesting. That was kind of independent of Mike. I haven't looked at that board. And I had preferred Genti. because of the receiving upside. You know, he catches a lot of passes.

You don't have Halani there anymore. We already kind of know what the Gordon situation is. He's going to get plied with carries and, you know, plenty of two-down work. But Nixon comes in and takes a lot of those receptions. That just gave me a little bit of the edge in taking a gente over Gordon. But I would say that my strategy has just been,

you know, not unlike Michaels, in that I want to take skill positions for the first six, seven, eight rounds before pivoting. In the first draft, I pivoted in round seven, two quarterbacks, and I love Jackson Dart. I took him at 7.7. I followed that with Jalen Daniels. Probably will wait for Jalen Daniels in the future. I feel like I kind of pulled the trigger on him at eight a little early. Even though with four-point passing touchdowns, you're coveting the rushing. ability even though i love carson beck and i refuse to apologize for it and i don't i i hate any league that devalues my beloved carson i have them so um other guys i have in both league uh darkwise hunter

auburn in that low double digit rounds i mean he frees i got to believe he will run the ball a little more alston had a nice little you know second half run but i i have multiple share of him. Gerwan Newton, Toledo, I have him in both leagues. So Geron Newton on the expert side, everybody knows I'm a Gerwan Newton guy. I have for years. I think me and Katz, we battled over our, who owns him in terms of the, who loves him the most.

So I want to make sure I get my Gerwan Newton bona fides out there. Katz doesn't try to take him from me. There you go. Even that he is. And a couple other things, I would say we actually had defenses. We had defenses in the Michael League. Michael, why did we have defenses in the CFF? I feel like I'm getting interrogated by Eric this entire process.

Defenses aren't people. This is what are we doing? Why defenses? You had to waste three picks on defenses. It's going to have some fun with those. Yeah, and you saw I picked them all in the final three rounds. I see value them too. I will say this, if you do play in a league with defenses, just a little bit,

six of the top scoring, 13 scoring defenses in terms of points allowed were in the Big Ten or will be in the Big Ten this year. So with defenses, I always go shopping for the top ones. I go to the Big Ten for them. Also, if there's an underrated De-conference that sort of poked its head up last year, the Mac, surprisingly, had four defenses in the top 27 in terms of points allowed. And the reason why is because all the, in my estimation, it's the transfer portal, all those talented players, the, you know, the Devontes Walker's and, you know, guys like that,

Carson Steele, they're bumping up now to the power four, power five, rather than staying in the Mac in a lot of cases. So where you're having some of the best receivers leaving and the best quarterbacks leaving, it's just sapping that talent and everybody has to kind of rebuild. So you don't have that passing game continuity the way you would before. And it just suppresses the offenses. And it's made the Mac defenses sneak a good place. Miami, Ohio, University, number six in scoring defense.

So, you know, under the radar defense. If you got to do it, you know, beware of the Mac. those late rounds. Love it. Anything else on your strategies? Waiting on QB. Ton of tight ends. Tons of them.

I mean, I feel like they just never ran out. And, you know, you can, I found like a nice little pocket is that 13th, 14th, 15th round in redraft. I mean, Brinningstool goes in the 13th. As Mike mentioned, R.J. Marilyn, Caden pre-scorn. Ben Yorosek, Jack Velling, all of those guys we just named 13th round selections. Every single one of them is a star. I mean, God, it's Caden Priestcorn, too.

I love Ole Miss this year, and Priestcoyne is going to have that whole room to himself. I think he's got such great hands. And Yerosek, taking over the Bowers role, at least sharing it with Delph, coming over from Stanford at 1311, money. Like, that's really, I feel like you can wait. and I think I did in each league. If I'm not mistaken, yeah, I waited until double-digit rounds before I even thought about tight ends. I went with Luke Lechay, Iowa, 10-12 on the 10-11 bounceback. And then at 11-1, Luke Lechlechay was taken to 10-10 by Heath Boyd.

I took Mason Taylor, LSU. I think Mason Taylor destroys the SEC this year. I'm so excited about him and Newsmeyer. So I would say that, excuse me, you don't have to. reach for tight ends in single digit rounds, wait until that early double digits, and you can feast. You can take two of them in that, you know, 11 through 14 range, and you're going to have two stars, and then you can wait for you to take that one or two left down the board just in terms of my best ball strategy. I think that's pretty clean, so many good ones.

Yeah, no, I totally agree. Yeah, I saw a lot of that too. It's just like, yeah. punt QB tight in just wait on them and then load up on the skill positions that seems to be a pretty pretty safe strategy this year what about you Zach what you got as far as strategies for you and the yeah I've done quite a bit this year my strategy a little different you know I'm still you know even though I've done some still trying to fill this out a little bit um we don't have a ton of information yet on a lot of these guys so a lot of it's still unknowns with camps just now ramping up

um but one thing that I definitely try to do do, and you can see it on this draft here, Byron Brown. If he's there, when I'm drafting, I want to take him. Just because I feel like there's such a break between Salter and Brown. And then I have Gabriel kind of like the tier 1.5, and then it feels like it dropped off quite a bit. So I really like that value with Brown and Salter. If you can get those guys early. If not, I love the strategy of waiting a little bit, but it's really hard for me to pass up.

I think the only time I probably wouldn't go for one of those guys is if Gene Tier, Gordon, was there. If I'm picking in the top two, I'm taking a running back there. But where I was at, I like taking Brown there. You'll see on our projections when we have those out, we have a confidence rating that just kind of takes into account a whole bunch of things as far as how we feel about this. Some of it's our own confidence and some of it's just based on play callers, players. history, all that. So his confidence is very high. So that's another thing that I liked about it. And I try and use that in my early rounds to when I'm when I'm taking these guys. The way I really view this, I'm not so much gunning for certain positions, but confidence level in guys as we

draft. So my first three, four rounds, I want guys that I feel really confident in. So that's kind of how I approach it. That definitely changes as we move along. And then I kind of start, I feel like I might take a few more chances as we go, some guys with just that high upside that I'm going to want to, or hope that we're going to see a guy like Fegan at Illinois, who is now missing spring. So I actually feel like this draft, I had a few of those guys where I drafted them and then I got the news that they're out for the spring, so maybe could have waited. But I love the upside of the ceiling that we could get from Fegan at Illinois. there. A guy like Jeremy Bernard, I know that that was probably too high there, but I just feel like

he knows that system, right? He's the one, there's not a ton of proven production there right now in that room. I think Bernard is a guy that could come in and really be one of those top receivers that were used to in that system. Again, I probably went a little early for him, but I like that upside again. And then Avery Johnson, right? It's another guy where not necessarily proving yet, but there just feels like so much upside. So I kind of, if I feel comfortable with what I get early on, I might take a few chances there. And it feels like in all these drafts, when you go back and look through, it can be the hit rate is not great, but there are a lot a hits in those middle rounds at receiver. And so if I feel like I can get some some solid receivers

at the beginning, I usually fill up in those middle rounds with receivers and just know that that hit rate is usually a little bit better because those are usually guys that they're unproven in a system that we like or maybe it's a proven guy in a new system or something like that. And that hit rate It seems to be a little better. But that's kind of how I approached this draft and kind of how I've been approaching it lately last year. And maybe I should go back to last year's strategy. I felt like I was a little bit less risk-averse. I wasn't taking as many chances.

I was taking more guys I felt confident in. But changing that up a little bit this year and seeing where that leads me. Well, if you hit on Byron Brown and Avery Johnson and you're on like eighth round, I'm like, that's a, that's going to be pretty hard to beat as far as a dual threat, Konami Code, quarterback that we love and, you know, the rushing up side of those guys. Speaking of Avery Johnson, the two of you took Avery Johnson with Josh taking him an 8-6 in the Champions League and Zach taking him at 8-8 in the CFF site league. Do you take him in that eighth round if it's a six-point passing touchdown league?

because Avery Johnson cannot throw a forward pass. He threw enough forward passes to beat us in our passing prop. He is a sole game. And you know that that was by a threat. That was by one pass. It was literally his last pass on the game. Literally his last pass. It shouldn't have been throwing that ball.

They shouldn't, they were in a position where they were running. I don't know why he threw it. But yeah, that's the coaching staff's fault because I watch. him in that game, in that bowl game, tried to throw the ball on the run while rolling to either side. And it was ghastly. He can't do it. So he's a long way to go as a passer. And that kind of goes to my whole, why are we accentuating guys who can't throw a forward pass? And if you're in six-point passing touchdown leagues with, you know, juice or appropriately, you know, incentivized passing yardage, he's marginalized.

And the risk that you're taking by taking him at 8-6 for a guy who is a run-first quarterback who, in my estimation, they get hurt more often because they're in harm's way a lot more when they're always blowing the ball down and running. And you saw that kind of happened with Jaden Daniels where he's getting spine-busted on the turf, you know, once or twice a game, he's getting, I mean, thrown. It's, you're putting yourself in danger. So I guess my question is, don't. That's, this is my example of.

Kyron drones, six, eight. He went six eight, Chris Kaye, six, eight, Chiron drones. Dude, he went. And this, in this best ball, he went the second round to Justin. Dude, what's happening? Okay, that's, that's what I'm talking about, guys. How was Kyron drones a second rounder or six rounder? Yeah.

Again, and yeah, we need to call out Heise on the CFF draft. Look, if we. Heisy, you are a one. man outlier with some of your picks brother wow i mean i mean i'm gonna force xavian hendison 711 wow can we get isy's team up here oh which right here yeah 11 11 what is going on hysey hey look man he's either gonna crush us all or it's gonna be a long season for him i love hezy so and i'm i'm i'm number one i'm mechegbuka guy in the world all right i have i have the videos to prove it i the Igbuka guy coming in two years ago I told you it was happening and happened.

111 is rich. Just, Eric, just to answer your question. My projections, at least personally, in six-point passing TDs, Avery Johnson comes in as QB24. In six-point, he comes in at, I'm sorry, I got it inverse. I got an inverse. 4. 4. QB 18, 6.2, 24.

So it does make a difference in his value based on the scoring format. Yeah, I mean, it's not a huge difference. But I mean, frozen. Yeah, 10th to 12th round versus 8th round. Yeah. Well, interesting. Interesting little dichotomy there. Just want to point in that out.

One last thing with Zach, with our friend that I'd like to ask about. So he mentioned Jeremy. Obviously, you took him in both leagues. He took him the 7th, 7.5 and 76 in each league. That's a pretty strong commitment there. Obviously, K. Ron Adams, you took in the 9th. I had also taken him, I want to say, in the 11th in this round. So we do have them in common.

But I guess Jacoby George is the guy I wanted to ask about. I love Jacoby George. Xavier Restrepo is having, in fact, I think you took him in, excuse me, Greg took Restrepo at 311 in the Champions League, and then Restrepo went 310 as well to Greg in the CFF side league. So he took him both in the exact same spot. What do you see about Jacoby George that intrigues you when you have, obviously, Restrepo, that,

is the slot receiver and gets a pretty high amount of volume. Do you think that George can step in and take over that Colby Young role? And what do you have projected for him in that role? Yeah. So looking at George right now, we actually have him really close to on track to last year at around 800 yards and eight touchdowns, which is similar to what he had last year, where we have him. When did I take, did I take him in the Champions League? You took him 11-8 at Champions League.

Yeah. So that's where I have him projected. He was just hitting when I had it pulled up. So it's really similar to what he was doing last year is where I have him for this year. So in terms of the change from Van Dyke to Cam Ward, you don't, you feel like that's a net positive? How do you look at that? Especially because, I mean, Van Dyke was banged up at him. Yeah, I mean, so my projections for Miami are really similar to last year.

So I don't know if I'd call it a net positive, but just net even. You know, I mean, yeah, I guess that's just where I have them right now. I don't see there's going to be a whole lot more upside with it. Him and Restrepo aren't too far apart yardage-wise. I have Restrepo at 979 right now. So fairly close there. And that's really going off a plane off of where the slot kind of comes in and then the outside receiver as well, just historically. It's a little bit better.

George is a little bit better on the outside than the historical there. So maybe it's a little bit optimistic there. But I think just factoring in what he did last year and just with. And I also think, too, I was talking with Josh a little bit. I don't have very much confidence in that run game right now. They don't really have anybody healthy. It doesn't feel like at running back.

So unless they can get that short up come season time, they might be throwing the ball a little bit more than what they want to do in that offense. So that's kind of where my head was at with that pick. Cool. One thing, too, with Jacoby George. I think it's different than Restrepo's. You got, you know, you got Isaiah Horton that flash a little bit in the bowl game. But even more, you have Jojo Trader, a true freshman that's come in,

and he's just been like the talk of the camp. And Jacoby George in the offseason, he had a, he got either like a pretty bad accident or a speeding ticket, like some reckless driving. He's had a few kind of on the field stuff. There's some, like, some weird rumors at Miami that he might get pushed out by the coaching staff. He's kind of on a short leash. And with this true freshman coming in Jojo Trader, I just think there's a lot more competition for Jacoby on the outside role.

And there is with Strepro, like he's just going to, he's going to be the guy in the slot. It's more of a secure role than I think Jacoby might have. Not that Jacoby's not talented. He's obviously really talented, but, you know, is there off the field stuff that might end up hindering him that I don't know. Yeah. All right. Okay. Next next kind of segment I wanted to do is kind of see for each of you guys, if you guys had a favorite pick and a least favorite pick that you made in this draft.

Froton, I'll let you go first. Yeah, there's a couple of guys that I tossed in at the end of the Champions League that I kind of wanted to talk about a little bit. And one of them was called out by our friend Heath Boyd. in the chat. And that was my homie Lee Beebe for the UAB. I mean, Lee Beebe. I don't know if everybody has been privy to what Mr. Beebe did.

But I noticed, if I'm not mistaken, Michael Bainbridge, did you take Isaiah Jacobs in this particularly? I think you did, didn't you? I did. Oh, he's not getting to say it. Here we go with the interrogation again. I'd be like we can title this episode, Interrogation of Mike Bainbridge. I'm good. I'm enjoying this.

What do you see in Isaiah Jacobs that makes you think that he's worthy of a 21st round pick when my beloved Lee Beebe is a 26th round. Why is Lee Beebe all of a sudden jumping Isaiah Jacobs? I'm glad you asked Michael. Yes, okay, you're going to get into the numbers. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. Well, I see that softy Isaiah Jacobs, right?

When he was healthy, when he was actually gracing us with his presence on the field for the first six games. Yeah, two and a half yards after contact for old Isaiah Jacobs. Not so good, Mike. Not so good. And he's a bigger guy. You know, you expect him to be breaking tackles, but he doesn't. He doesn't. Wee-Bee-Bee, on the other hand, not only is he break tackles.

Okay, 17 in 52 carries, but 14, 10-yard runs or more in 52 carries, all right? Talking about 23% rate where he's hitting a chunk play, that's ridiculous, okay? You're not seeing that at Isaiah Jacobs, and then Lee-Bee, catching the passes, okay, 14 out of 17. Eight mistackles forced in 14 receptions. I see explosiveness. I see yak. He actually doubled Isaiah Jacob, actually Mr. Jacobs' is yak, okay? Two and a half to five point two.

You've literally doubled it, okay? Everything I'm seeing from Lee Beebe, all right? Everything. And he closed the season strong. Temple, 10 carries, 70 yards a touch. North Texas, 7 for 101 and 2. Those are just the carries. Forget about him catching passes. Because he is, I mean, two catches on two targets. It's 35 yards. Unbelievable. I mean, 200 elusiveness rating, according to PFF.

Everything that you look at between these two guys, Lee Beebe is superior. So I am a Lee Beebe stand. I am casting my lot behind him. One of the principles, if you go back and look at my running backs article from last year, where I went and looked at statistical trends in the position, you notice that running backs who catch 30 or more passes are more likely to be in the top 20 from the preseason to the postseason as opposed to receivers, excuse me, running backs who aren't a part of the receiving game in that same fashion. Free receiving points. 30 touchdowns or excuse me, 30 receptions

are 30 points. It's free. And it counts for five touchdowns. If you're there, it matters. So I'm always going to lean with the guy that I think is going to. to be a little more prone to catching passes. I think they're more likely to get that three-down work. And that was my advanced Lee Beebe research. So, okay, go ahead, Mike. No, then I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to argue that at this point. Like, we'll see what happens in UAB Spring Camp. But correct me if I'm wrong that Armani Goodwin, the LSU transfer is there. We could all be wrong. It's not Isaiah Jacobs. And it's not Lee Beebe, and it's Armani Goodwin that becomes the starter.

So look, I just chose the guy that was ahead of BB on the depth chart last year. I could be wrong at this point. Isaiah Jacobs sold plenty in the passing game, like in terms of a volume perspective, right? Right? Got plenty of targets when he was in there. So at this point, nobody knows who that is. I was picking the guy that was ahead of BB on the depth chart for starters. In the 19th round, I'm not investing like heavy draft caps.

in the UAB starting running back this year. But yeah, I could, I find it amusing that we could all be wrong at this point. And it's, it's LSU transfer. In fact, are we going to have, Zach, are we going to have Armani Goodwin? I've gone back and forth on it. I've changed it probably five times. Right now I have his R.D.2. I really wanted to just get some more information out of camp.

But I kind of went, same thought process as Mike was just talking about. Just had Jacobs at the top now. but I mean that's one that I have starred that's like we got I don't I don't know I have Jacobs I have good one and then I have Bibi in there and I just I need more information really before I can feel good about anything there I feel like I I hope good one's a retread he just feels like a retread to me just transferring down because he's desperate all right there's that and then I'll end it up with another running back that I took kitty corn with Bibi to run Keith uh Western Kentucky. This guy

at Bowling Green last year. Obviously you had Tarian Stewart as well, but towards the end of the season Keith started getting more and more carries from pretty much week 10 on.

Every time he got the opportunity, I mean, he lit it up. Not to mention just that, but his receiving work was just unparalleled. 44 receptions on 59 targets. he's basically almost not even a running back at that point he's a true dual threat two and a half yards per route that's astounding 457 yards receiving now he's not there anymore obviously he's he's at western

kentucky but that falls right into that skill set and with them facing an exodus you know steps gone and uh excuse me urban poindexer is gone But with Keith, broke 25 tackles and 63 carries, 6.4 yards per carry, 90th percentile run grade. I mean, you look at him and you watch the games, too. He's, I mean, the guy's dynamic. If he could get there and fill that starting role, because it feels like they just haven't be able to have one guy that they've liked at West Kentucky. I know they've rotated, but they brought him in to transfer.

for, you know, Finley's there now. No reason why this offense can't go and have a resurgence and return at least end of the board, you know, value for that running back where you're at RB 1112 in this best ball, maybe, you know, seasonal leagues, coughing everywhere. That's why he can't return, you know, value on a 27, 28th round investment. I guess I was just kind of curious what your thoughts would be. guys about the changing of venue with Keith and about the opportunity and what used to be kind of a you know a rotational backfield yeah i got lots of questions about will friend coming in as the

oc there and what he's going to run and you know what's going to change up there i think it's just the unknowns i mean toron keith is yeah my uh my father-in-law is a bowling green alma mater so i watch you know quite a few other games and he was great but elizabeth's Asia Young, like, he was pulling green. Yeah, Josh. You know it, man. And my uncle went there, too. So, you know, I got bowling green ties.

But, you know, Tyring Keith is good. I was actually curious on why he even transferred to Western Kentucky, of all places. Because it felt like he maybe could have done a little bit better than that. But, you know, I think it's going to be ultimately, it's going to be hard for him to get volume in that offense at his size. I mean, I can't imagine him getting 44 receptions again. plus the amount of carries he would need to be viable, but maybe in a PPR format. I was going to say, I mean,

we don't know what we'll get out of French. It doesn't mean we'll naturally get that full rotation like we did before. I mean, if he goes with one guy, he's the guy I'm strongly leaning towards, and you don't have to be huge in that system, but you do have to be able to catch the ball. You know, he's lifted 5-10-190. Obviously, that's on the smaller side.

You want to see it higher, but, you know, it's not 5-6. Yeah. I'm intrigued about the possibilities. And like you said, you don't know. It feels a lot like Elijah Young to me, though. I mean, Elijah Young's 5-9-190. Yeah, it's a type.

Yeah. And so it just feels like, are they going to do like the same things? I mean, he had what, Elijah had 20 receptions last year for 247 yards, 104 carries, 474 yards. And so he wasn't terrible. I mean, he's the primary guy, I think, over the last half of the year. year or in the middle part of the year. So I don't know. I mean, some of that just feels like, are they, these feel like the same player. I don't even, I don't really understand, again, why, why get another Elijah Young unless, I guess maybe they don't think Elijah Young's that good.

And then there's Theron Keith. Well, I don't know. That's why I took it for Ron Keith. I don't. I'm not an Elijah young guy, but, you know, so, so be it, we all like to take our chances and, uh, and take our shots. So I was like, yeah, let me take a stab on the last running back. western kentucky you have some fun i love it what about you guys uh zach or mike any favorite picks or least favorite picks picks you regretted yeah i would i would say favorite pick uh geo lopez south albama in round 16 um just just the track record of uh major white apple white and and and producing top tier fantasy quarterbacks um you know we got a glimpse in the in the thrashing of of eastern Michigan in that bowl game. It wasn't competitive, obviously, but, you know, four touchdowns,

280 total yards of offense. Applewhite is when he's got a dual threat, he is not shy about using his quarterback in the run game. Obviously, we didn't see that in previous years with Carter Bradley. I think we will see it with Gio Lopez this year. So small sample size, but I like what South Alabama brings back. You know, I don't think they have a Lidamian web in the backfield this year. So I think you're going to see quarterback getting involved in the running game. Plus, you got Jamal Pritchett. Devin Voison is back this year coming back from injury.

I didn't even realize Javon Ivory's back this year. So your full array of options at receivers. So that was kind of my favorite pick of this draft. And I would say least favorite. Well, you texted me right after I made the pick of Chris Hudson in the 12th round saying, hey, you drafted him 10 rounds ahead of where he'd gone in any of the previous, like, 20 drafts that had gone on. So it's not I like Chris Hudson this year. You know what?

I wouldn't even say I like Chris Hudson this year. I like the Washington State slot receiver this year. Okay. And I'm projecting it to be Chris Hudson. so, you know, I don't like it in the fact that I took him way earlier than he had been gone in previous drafts, but I'm going to take shots on the upside of a Washington State slot receiver. Yeah, it's not going to matter if he hits. It was funny because he made that.

It doesn't matter where you hit. Because he was obviously on my list, and like Josh had told you he could get him later, right? So I was waiting. I love what you did, though, when you took Hudson and then you took Hernandez later on. Hudson maybe was early, but kind of going back to what? we were going with this i mean that slot receiver is top 10 guy right so if you got one of those guys even taking him in the 12th round i mean that's going to be a great value pick that was that was actually one of my my i hated it but because you took him way before i thought he was going to go

but it you know that's something that i think could really pay off um in your draft yeah that'll be that'll be an interesting competition to to kind of track over the the spring camp because I can't get a read on Carlos Hernandez and kind of where he's going to play because I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but I think it was like a 55, 45, some sort of split around that mark between slot and outside. He's got the size, I believe, of a slot receiver, but he spent almost half the time outside. He was outside a little bit more last year. It's pretty even, but he was on the other little more.

But the other thing, too, they don't have a ton of returning production in the slot, which makes it really tough kind of with where you're going with that. There just isn't a lot of returning production coming back. Yeah. So, you know, did I reach? Sure. But, you know, if you hit on the wazoo slot receiver under Ben Arbuckle, as we saw last year with Lincoln Victor, you're going to be pretty profitable in CFF.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I was grabbing them before this. Yeah, Chris Hudson in the 21st, 22nd rounds. There's a lot of value out there after people listen to this, maybe not. Before that, there was a ton of value with Chris Hudson. But yeah, getting both those guys back to back are tapping at where I mean you do is a good, good strategy for sure. To accentuate what Mike was saying, I just looked up, Hernandez. is, yeah, 54 to 46 wide to slot rate, so almost exactly 50-50. On 24 receptions, he broke 10 tackles.

And that's pretty amazing for a wide receiver. And that's the skill set you're looking for from that inside because he's got a 6-yard-A-Dodd. So they're just giving them essentially extended handoffs, manufactured touches, and just letting them break it. So I like seeing 10 broke tackles and 24 receptions. I mean, that's how you make money in that wazoo system. Yeah, that's great. I love it. What about you, Zach?

Any favorite or least favorite picks for you? Obviously, I touched on Byron Brown already. Anytime I can grab him, I think I want to get him. Another pick, Troton, you brought him up quickly, but Karon Adams. I liked his value there. I just think that I actually really like the value of the running backs in that eight, nine range. I think there's going to be some guys that really hit.

He's one of those guys for me that he was when I was going through. It looked like a really good value based on that projection. So I was happy with that pick. A couple things. I'm taking Jamal Banks way too early. It's a little bit of a homer pick for me. I found out in the Champions League I can wait until around 30 or whatever to take him. I don't really think he's going to have a great year,

but I think in a best ball, he's going to have some really good games in that offense, because I just don't think they're going to have a ton at the receiver position. But that's one where I could have probably got a little bit better value in round 15. It could have waited. And then back to the defense, I didn't realize this until we were drafting, but there are a ton of buys. I think it's like week seven and 12. And I would typically only want to draft two defenses in a league like this,

and both of my defenses had the same buy weeks, so I had to go another one. So I didn't like that about my draft because I felt like I had to waste another spot on a defense when I didn't really want to do that. Good point from Zach there. If you notice, most teams have, it's double buys this year. Most teams, in fact, I think all of them do have two buys. So make sure that when you're going through your schedule matrix, last year, most teams had one buy, maybe like you're, USC and a couple others had two. Everybody's got two buys this year.

So you have to count extra. Yeah, that's a great point for a time because like what we're doing in best balls, like this might change when we actually get into redraft because a lot of them are going to have week 12, week 13 buys, which are the, you know, the semifinals in the finals. So we'll be talking about that for sure, you know, as we get into strategy with actual redraft first best ball. So that's big. Hey, any of you guys have any plant your flag picks on guys that you really want to kind of highlight? I know Froton, maybe you had a few of those at the end of the draft.

Anybody else have any? I'll go Jerome, Jeremiah Hunter, Washington. I know, Josh, you've been grabbing a lot of shares of his in the new several best balls. But, I mean, you just look at what Jetfish did at Arizona. I mean, each of his wide receiver once had 100 targets. Who else is catching passes, to be honest, at Washington? I know Eric is a fan of Denzel Austin. Yep, yep.

Giles Jackson is back for a fifth season. But I just, I can't, you get the sense, in my opinion, that Hunter should be the wide receiver one there. And while it is, you know, quote unquote rebuild, if, you know, if they have those and the transfer portal area anymore, but just so much turnover. I think there is some risk in that Washington is just horrendous this year, just kind of converting to the Big Ten this year and everything like that. But, you know, you bring back an experience starting quarterback and Will Rogers. So I just feel like he's going to be peppered with targets.

And we have proof in the pudding with Jed Fish that his offenses can produce, you know, high volume, high volume targets like that. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I would say that. Sure, a guy that myself and Zach, I think, drafted, or actually, who's me and you mentioned a little bit, I think Isaiah Bond in the ninth round. And then, you know, you have golden in that 13th, 14th or so round.

One of those two is going to pop. And we saw Adonai and Xavier Worthy do pretty good last year in that Texas system. You know, at the very least, thrown in Jatavian Sanders. There was a lot of balls to go around there. You have that last year of viewers, maybe Arch goes and pushes them, Sarkeesian.

First year in the SEC, you're going to have to be more potent. And they're just going to be able to cruise like they did in the Big 12. They're going to have to put the put on the gas a little more. And I think that that's kind of something that's lost with some team. You know, the switching of all the conferences is, you know, a big dog, you know, one of, one of the 800-pound guerrillas in the Big 12, Texas,

I mean, they really were talent-wise, just above and beyond. They're going to have to work hard. They're going to be down some games. Them being down is good because they have to throw and exert themselves more. I'm fine with them having to deal with that. I just think with that offense, you're going to cook, bond, golden. I think you get two of them. that'll be end up being you know fantasy worthy especially in bestball

because you can get those guys just trading off yeah for a time i got bond in the ninth and cook in the 19th and i've been doing that and every draft and going i think it's one of those two guys i think golden is more of like possession guy and um and but but cook or bond i don't know which one of them's going to go off and you know at the at the combine several of the Texas players had mentioned Cook as a potential standout. Silas Bolden's not, you know, he's coming in, but he's not coming in into the summer. Yeah. I mean, so you got, I think Cook's going to have, you know, Cook and Bond and Golden will all have a leg up on Silas in the system. And, yeah, we'll see. I definitely think it's Bond or Cook. I mean,

but Bond ran a 10, 10,500 meter. Cook ran a 10-7-6. I mean, these guys got speed, to route, you know, at least Cook's got some route running. Bond is, yeah, he's not small at that side. Dude, he's at 190, like 194, I think right now. I mean, so he gained 10 pounds this last year. So yeah, I mean, there's, I think there's a lot to like in that strategy. Yep, absolutely. And it goes to the, and this is something that I've, I've adhered to for years.

It's the powerful wide receiver three, you know, the wide receiver three in high passing volume offenses that tend to not rotate because you remember tex i mean texas most of their guys it was whittington ad and i and worthy like those three guys are on the field the whole time last year and you know you have uh like the former mike leach air raids where he just he would just use them like hockey lines the wide receivers sometimes having those powerful offenses 40 points a game that are going to throw enough to have to you know be involved in these games With a set rotation, you feel good about it with those three, how do we know it's going to be one or the other?

It's Ohio State, it's Alabama, you know, where Devante Smith, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Egbuka, and last year I would say it was Jalen Polk, you know, of Washington. There's always a wide receiver three in one of those big passing offenses that you think is that third guy that gets drafted like it, like Cook, that becomes the one. And it happens every single year. And who's it going to be?

It could be Texas this year. It could be Jotay. Yeah. And I mean, here's the thing with Sark, too. He doesn't want, he said, like, I treat this like an NFL system and an NFL offense where I'm going to rotate four wide receivers and that's it. And it's primarily going to be the three, right, that you mentioned last year. Cook was the fourth and he had eight catches for like 136 yards. Yeah. Right.

I mean. So. yeah to have one of those three and they're all going to be so dynamic so speedy right like it's going to it's going to work for them for sure so i love that love that idea for sure what about you zach you got anybody else uh not not yet i'm sure i'm sure as we continue drafting there's going to be some guys but um i don't got anything right now yeah one one quick guy that i have here is and chris tyre from virginia i mean they basically mike took to Tyree in the last one.

Yes, I would not consider him my guy. I did take him, but not my guy. Well, and here's what I'll say. They have point blank said that he's coming in for the Malik Washington role. And he is Malik Washington size. Malik Washington has a very low A-DOT. It's not like he had to be a good receiver to do what he did. I think there's a lot of similarities in their game as far as speed.

You know, Tyree was the fastest running back coming out a couple years ago. He's running a 4-3-8 timed and camps. So I'm intrigued by Tyree just in the sense of like I think look the volume could be ridiculous. Literally 96 targets, I think 96 of his 138 for Malik Washington last year was in the nine yards of the line of scrimmage. 64 I think we're behind the line of scrimmage. So it's like if that's all Tyree's asked to do, Tyree can play that role. And I see Malachi Fields go and you know wherever he is up here top 10 rounds usually 11 111 sure andrew that sounds right yep i think it's right around but then but he's not going to play that slot role

and if they and again maybe malik washington is a one-of-one but i think tyree 20th round he's worth a shot um for what he could be yeah he was taken by cats at the 912 in our recent draft and the 11-1 at his previous draft. So, yeah, Cats. Cats has been all over Malachi Fields. I would say this. And I think Eric would agree with this sentiment. If there is a player, and again, I'm not saying Chris Tyree won't hit or bust or anything, but if there is a player that we are consistently betting his under on props, I don't know that I can fully believe in that guy to be a Malik Washington time. I know, I know. Just saying. We got a lot of Tyree unders.

It just wasn't targeted very much, you know, in Notre Dame. And it's that slot role. But, hey, this isn't Notre Dame anymore. You know, this is, this is Virginia. So no, in 20th round, you're going to take that shot. It makes sense. Yeah. It's just a high volume roll that, who knows.

But it's, you know, same thing with Washington's AQBs. It's like grabbing them in the 20th rounds. Not bad here. Okay. Anything else from y'all? I don't have anything else, I think, for this. I think we're going to shut it down. We are at an hour and ten minutes, so I want to be respectful of everybody's time.

And unless you have any last kind of general draft thoughts. That's good. I'm excited for the next one, and looking forward to covering many topics in the near future here. Yeah. You guys got anything, Zach, Mike? No.

Uh, no, we are, we are, uh, we are capped out for, for the, for this episode. Dude, I know you, uh, got a little bachelor party coming up. So you're trying to pack and get out of here. And there might be a surprise guest from this, uh, from this very podcast showing up at said, said bachelor party. So might be, it might be somebody showing up for that, possibly. It's not a party if, uh, if somebody doesn't show up. Yeah, hopefully we'll get some good pictures. I know Mike's got a couple of very interesting outfits ready for this out of this. Yeah.

So, you know, because of, I'm glad you brought up the Bachelor Party because of that, our live stream, our podcast next week, it may be short a couple guys that may be on this, on this trip. So we'll see if they're able to show up. But next week, what we're going to talk about is kind of top 10 historical play callers for QBs. and a lot of those top 10 historical play callers, Zach, again, we talked about at the beginning, he's got a ton of data that goes 10 plus years back on play callers. And so we're going to look at those QBs for the top 10 historical play callers

according to fantasy points per game. So it should be fun because a lot of those guys aren't getting drafted very high who they have projected to be this year. So I think it would be a fun podcast for us to be able to bat around some names and talk about why these guys could be valued. in the 20 plus rounds or why you should avoid them despite having good play callers. So I think it'll be fun. You guys have anything you guys want to promote before we get off air here?

Just the show. Yeah, just the show. I think you said it at the start that we're not the self-promotion. Yep. Yep. Well, good. Well, hey, you know, here at Fantasy Points, I'm going to promote a few things. Man, like Zach talked about earlier, we're going to have 80P out on this side.

in the next couple days. We're hoping to have this out by the time this podcast is out. But that ADP is going to be free to everyone. And so we want you guys to be able to have that for those that are drafting. And yeah, to be able to know kind of going into it, you're not going blind. But you can really see kind of where people have been drafted. And we have 20 plus drafts in that ADP already. So it's pretty good as far as what ADP is usually for March in the off season.

And then, you know, stuff that's going to be behind our paywall. We have projections, rankings that are going to come out in the next couple weeks. And so that'll be really fun. Zach's been working really hard on that. So it should be fun. But that's all we got. Fellas, this was fun. I'm excited to be able to share it back with you guys.

And this ends the first episode of the CFF All Access. Peace.