Fantasy Football Daily - CFF All Access - Play Makers and Shot Callers

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

On this episode of CFF All Access, the guys talk about Spring Camp news at Miami, FSU, and Georgia before deep diving into the top play callers for QBs, according to FPG, with a little twist. They choose seven of the top 25 play callers who all have QBs who are currently being drafted outside of the top 24 QBs in current CFF best balls. Enjoy this podcast and take your game to the next level with CFF All Access. Make sure to follow us for more valuable college fantasy football content! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, this is Josh Chavilley. I'm the college fantasy football lead over at Fantasy Points. Welcome to the CFF All Access podcast, where you are being introduced behind their curtain into the best conversations in college fantasy football. Let's get started. Hey, guys, again, hey, this is Josh Chivalier. I'm joined today by my boy, Zach Hall at CFF champs. I'm excited to have them on with me. We have lost our two other companions this week. Mike Bainbridge and Eric Froton. They were both. at a bachelor party this weekend. They've gone missing in Miami, but we're pretty confident. We'll have him back next week. Actually, Froton is at a Boston Bruins game tonight in Miami with a bunch of his boys. So we're missing him, but he's a Boston dude.

So we're excited for him to be able to see his boys play hockey. But the show must go on. So here we are. Today's main topic for us, we are going to be talking about the top play callers in CFF for QBs. but with a slight twist, we're actually going to be talking about some things these play callers have in common. One, all of these play callers rank within the top 25 and QB fantasy points per game. In fact, six of the seven are in the top 15.

And then second, all of them have QBs being drafted in round 10 and beyond. And so we didn't want to pick guys that are, you know, like Mack Wefletch at Texas State or Will Stein at Oregon, you know, guys that are. our boy Alex Golish at South Florida, all guys that have QBs going in the top three rounds. You guys don't need to hear about this stuff. You guys know who to choose there. So we wanted to give you guys some guys that are more values in draft, guys that are being drafted outside the top 24 QBs, non-starters.

And so that's what we're going to do tonight. We're going to get into seven of those play callers tonight, and it should be a great show. We're excited to do this. But before we do that, I wanted to run through some quick spring camp news and some quick hitters here and have a little bit of a conversation on things that are going on because we got spring camps going on.

And yeah, we want to get into that and talk about what we have going on in camps. So the first spring camp we want to get into a little bit was Miami. Miami's got Cam Ward that they brought in this offseason after quite a bit of recruiting that they did. He went to the NFL draft. He came back and decided that he was going to play for Miami in his last year. Got a fat NIL deal. and I think there's a lot of questions about whether, you know, Cam Ward was going to live up to that hype. And, man, in camp right now, like the buzz is unbelievable.

And so I think he's a pretty interesting value to me in drafts, right? Like, he's going. His ADP overall is 99. And so that's right around the eighth round. He is the 20th quarterback off the board. And so my question, you know, for you, Zach. Like, what do you think?

Do you think that Cam Ward, is he a value right now in the eighth round as the QB20, or is he going too high, or is this just right? Yeah. So I feel like that's about right. That's kind of where I expected him to start going. We have him as QB26 in the rankings right now. So he's right around there.

Maybe it's a little bit high, but but I also think Cam Ward is one of those guys where we were really excited about him two years ago and we just last year we kind of fell off and he's one of those guys I kind of want to see you know have that have that good year coming up this year and so I like where he's going right now I wouldn't want to take him any higher than that I don't know if I don't expect him to really fall too much below that so I think it's a it's a good spot for him I would probably wait maybe a round or two more for him, but I think it's fought right now is pretty solid. Yeah.

Yeah, I think when he's falling in the ninth or tenth round, man, he's great, great value, right? And especially, like, you and I have been talking a lot, you know, behind the scenes. And just like, man, Miami's running attack right now is a big question mark. And so it's like, if they don't have a running game, then he might really have to air it out. and the wide receivers, at least the top four, Jojo Traders, the true freshman, has a lot of buzz coming in.

I mean, Insiders from Miami saying he's the best wide receiver in 20 years. That's come in. You have Jacoby George, who was the number three in yards in the conference. And then you had Xavier Strepo, who was number two in the conference last year. And then you have Isaiah Horton. So you have four wide receivers there that could be pretty good. And, man, if Ward has weapons and Miami doesn't have a run game, so you get some goal line carries, like he could.

could be a real value in drafts. Yeah, and that's one of those guys when I was rolling through projections. It was probably a little bit more on the conservative side, but that ceiling feels higher than where he's actually at right now. And I like that point you brought up about some of those goal line carries, right? If they don't have that running back, healthy running back there, I mean, he's going to get some of those. So I think there's definitely upside from where we have him right now projected as well.

So, yeah, good value. Yeah, I totally agree. All right, second player we're going to talk about we're going to go over to Georgia. And another Georgia Bulldog has gotten caught with the DUI. Tell me if you've heard this one before. You know, there's a whole hit piece last offseason on Georgia and kind of how they handle these things. And then Trevor ETIN comes in, right? Running back from Florida comes in, transfers in, supposed to be the RB1,

potentially like a higher Belcow role, according to. Jared Palmgrim, who's a big Georgia fan, another guy that has a great CFF podcast. And then this man gets arrested. And so, you know, the question I think really is, okay, say he has a one or two game suspension. Does that hurt his value in your eyes? Like he's currently going round eight, just like Cam Ward, around, I think end of like your RB3 range. starting in your RB4. What are you doing with Trevor Ety? And are you going to, like I've seen him start to drop a couple rounds in drafts. But what do you think? Should we drop them? Should we keep him the same?

No, you know, so for me personally, I thought he was going maybe a little bit too high anyways. Yeah. I kind of refer back to our projections. The confidence rating wasn't great on him. So it felt like it was a little bit higher than I would have liked personally. this might help it correct a little bit. I don't think the impact's going to be that huge on his overall season, right? We're talking if he misses one or two games at the beginning of the year,

maybe there's going to be a little bit of an impact. I don't see this really changing his draft position too much. I think we'll probably still see him going in that same range. Yeah, so I don't think there will be too much of an impact. Maybe drop a round or two, but overall, I think, I think it'll stay pretty steady. Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, if you start dropping a couple rounds,

I'm going to like that value because he is a guy that, you know, there's an interesting relationship between CFF and Debbie analysts, right? Devy analysts can actually be on guys before us, right, because they are looking at freshmen and stuff like that, and they look at, you know, potential impact of the pro level. So some of this, like they have a really good eye for analyzing these, becoming players and ETN's one of those that's been identified as like a top top five devi running back and a lot of people's eyes and um and so he could have a lot of potential but you know we know

that georgia likes to split carries but if he's going to drop a couple rounds then he starts to get putting that range where i like him yeah and that's that's one of the things before we even started these drafts he was a guy that i kind of had um as thinking maybe he would go a little bit later than where he was and that value would be great again like i said he's going just above where I would want to take him, probably a few rounds where I'd take him. But yeah, he's definitely a guy. If he starts to drop, I'm going to jump all over that. Start adding him to some of these teams that I'm drafted.

Yeah. Yeah, totally. And, you know, in best ball or in redraft, right? When you draft ETIN, like, if he's suspended for the first couple of games, like, you're going to have enough information, especially if you're listening to this podcast or got your, you know, your ear to the ground. like to be able to go, all right, who are the guys that can pick up that can score 20 points? Because there are lots of guys, right, with all the FBS teams that are playing FCS opponents that we can pick up and identify and go, yeah, we can put them in our lineups and they're going to score 20 points.

And so the first couple of weeks are pretty easy to do that. So don't let a potential one or two game suspension derail you, you know, from picking this guy. All right. Next guy we got, our next team, we're traveling down south just a little bit to the Florida State Seminoles. And I want to talk about a guy that was a little disappointing last year from me, Millie Benson. He was, you know, coming into camp last year at Alabama, like there was some potential that he would be a top wide receiver there. And then he never really panned out. He didn't get on the field much. When he did, he didn't really do much.

But now he's over at Florida State and probably in a little bit of a simpler system with Mike Norvel. And, you know, Norvel has kind of said, hey, what do I want? On my team, I want speed, right? Last year he had two giants on the outside of Keon Coleman and Johnny Wilson. And then now he's going, all right, like we're going to transition. So you got Jalen Lucas, you got Jalen Brown from LSU, a little known freshman. and then he got Malik Benson. And what are these guys all have in common?

It's speed. And Lake Benson runs a 10-4-100 meter. And he's just been a standout throughout the off-season. I pay attention quite a bit to Florida State and just report after report. It's talking about Malik Benson and how fluid he is and how much they're expecting him to do in the system. And then that has not stopped since camp started where they are really hyping him up. And right now he's going, you know, Round 26, this is 80p, you know, your 100th wide receiver.

We haven't projected, right, at 14.4 points, we're getting wide receiver 77. So we're pretty conservative on that projection, but also, like, you know, that's, what, 23 spots higher than what he's going? So what do you think we should do? What's your take on Lake Benson? Yeah. So really good value right now. And this is a guy that I feel like Josh keeps sending me articles and just anything on this guy so that I will bump up this projection. Because I feel like if it was up to him, this projection would be a lot higher.

But like you mentioned, great value right now where he's going, you know, in the 100 wide receiver. And even at 77, he's a great value. The one thing that I guess kind of trips me up here is when Mike Norvell went to Florida State, we just have not seen the volume at that receiver position that you would want to see the consistency to have kind of a higher wide receiver. I mean, Keon Coleman is his best receiver he's had, CFF-wise or fantasy points wise. he had 15.2 last year. And really, the big reason for that is 11 touchdowns. I mean, that drove a lot of his points. And he hasn't had a receiver over 90 targets yet at Florida State.

So if you go back to Memphis, it's a whole different story, right? They had some really high-end receiver production there. But since he's been in Florida State, it just hasn't been there. yet. You mentioned that projections conservative definitely could see that being more not close to that ceiling of where he could be in that offense. But for me personally, I've kind of stayed away from any Florida State receiver just the last few years. And I would kind of, I'm kind of at the I, I won't believe it until I see it. You see the reports and I, like guys, you know, like John said he's got the speed he's sounds like he's killing it in practice so the potential's there but

for me um i love the value right now he's a guy that i feel like with all these reports coming out and we got people on twitter talking about him right posting stuff about how good he's doing it's almost like i feel like he could over correct right so he's going at 100 now and then he starts to go way too early um so i'd be careful about that of where guys really start to take him. It might not happen, but I could see that potentially happening here where it overcorrects. But definitely, even if you're getting him in that, you know, those mid-teens, like that's still going to be a really good value. I think especially in a best ball where even if he doesn't put it together all year, he's going to have some really good weeks. There's just going to be

some really solid weeks. And he's going to be a good receiver on your team. He's a guy that I would probably look to add when I'm drafting is maybe like a wide receiver six on my on my roster right you kind of fill it up with with some really solid guys and then bring him in and and hope you're going to get some weeks and then hit that hit that ceiling that we have seen in the system just not in the last few years yeah and so that's like wide receiver what 60 something to 70 something if you're talking about wide receiver six range and that's right in the range that we have them right because you start getting into decimal points when you start talking about some of these projections and where guys land, right? But yeah, it's interesting.

I think, you know, counterpoint to FSU, right, is Jordan Travis. Yeah. And, you know, he's got a style of game that's not going to lend itself to the type of production that we had when he was at Memphis and he had more true pocket passers. And I would say DJU is more in that mold. I mean, certainly not as consistent as, you know, some of the old, you know, quarterbacks that they had. But Blake Benson is more in the mold of kind of a speedy outside wide receiver can actually transition inside outside. Like a lot of those guys could back in the day Memphis as well. So we'll see, though.

I mean, the thing here, right, is value. It's like drafting is all about value. And so you'll hear if he was going in the 10th round and we'd be like, this is this is dumb but you know and the 26th round it's like yeah take your shot and go like as high as 16 17 right where you're starting to really throw more of darts at that point yep that's good all right so we're going to transition we want to each week we want to hit on some spring news right and things going on because camps are really starting to heat up and once we hit april 6 13th right we're going to start getting some actual, you know, spring games and really be able to talk about that stuff.

So we'll have more information on that every week. But we want to get to our main segment this week, our main topic. And that is, like I mentioned before, historical play callers, top play collars for QBs. And again, the slight twist. So these are guys, right, all these play callers are in the top 25 for QB fantasy points per game. Six of these seven play collars we're going to hit on tonight are in the top. top 15, right? So these are really good play callers. And they all have QBs that are being drafted in rounds 10 and beyond. And so none of these are top 24 QBs. So these are all guys that we

would say are values, right? And so I'm going to hit on, I'm just going to name the seven Q, seven play callers that we're going to be talking about tonight. And, and then we can go through and talk through the four things that we're going to discuss for each play caller, three things. One, their history, right? So we have lots of data on their history as a play caller. So we're going to go through that. They're projected QB1 or the battle. And then that QB's ADP, their current situation at the school.

So what's the wide receiver room like? And then we'll discuss whether we think these guys, whether you should actually take a shot on them and where they're going in the draft. So good. So the seven historical play collars we're going to hit on. The first is Robert and I. He's in North Carolina State OC. We have Major Appalwhite, who is the head coach at South Alabama, but he's also the play caller.

Jeff Levy, same thing. He's the head coach at Mississippi State, but also the play caller, Eric Morris. Same thing at North Texas. Mike Shanahan, not the same one from back in the day winning championships with the Broncos. But this one is former Pittsburgh wide receiver. And Indiana OC for Kurt Signetti. there. So former JMU O.C. Who's produced a lot with a little over the last couple of years at QB.

And then Sean Lewis, who's the San Diego State head coach and also play caller. And then Ben Arbuckle, who's at Washington State as the OC there. So this is the seven that we're going to go over. And we're going to start with my favorite. I'm going to go back and forth. I'm going to take one. And then Zach will take one and kind of explain. who they are in their profile,

and then we'll have some discussions on them. So first one, Robert and I, again, he's the NC State OC. Again, historically, he was at UVA for a long time. He was there with Bryce Perkins. He had our boy, the Ginger, Brendan Armstrong, and then he also had a year with Garrett Shrader there at Syracuse. And so, man, I'm going to go the last six years, really, because that's when he started using a dual threats, right?

And so he uses dual threats for the last six years. They're averaging 27.6 fantasy points per game over that time, which ranks number ninth in the country. And the average pass numbers are 2,800 yards per game. Or sorry, per game. That would be incredible per season with 21 touchdowns, nine interceptions, and then 159 rush attempts with 603 yards and eight touchdowns. And again, I named the guys that he's done that with, and you can kind of see their production.

And it's been a little bit all over the place. But usually lots of yards on the ground and lots of touchdowns on the ground and then about 20-something hundred yards. And his QB1 projected this year is Grayson McCall. So most of you guys know, Grayson McCall from Coastal Carolina, where he has been pretty consistent, putting up like 25, 26 fantasy points per game over that time. He, you know, his numbers essentially, you know, as far as production, really match what Robert and I is done, right? He's got 2,700 yards in 2023. He had 2,800 yards in 2022. And last year, he got injured, but had 1,900 yards, which was better, you know, per game than those other two years.

He only played about seven games. And then we haven't projected at 24.6 fantasy points per game. Again, I think that's pretty, I think that's pretty doable for him. We have about 2,800 yards passing 22 touchdowns and then 350 yards rushing in six touchdowns, which he's had anywhere from 500 yards rushing to to 195 while he was a starter. So we're right in that range. And he's had, you know, about five touchdowns, six touchdowns per year over that span.

So again, he's right in line with. with what Robert and I does. And then he's got a receiving court. He's got Kevin Concepcion, KC, as he's affectionately called, and he was a baller as a true freshman, right? Kind of played all over the field, even got carriers in the backfield. But then they've added in Noah Rogers from Ohio State, who's a former five-star from North Carolina.

He's transitioned back home. And then they also got Wesley Grimes from Wake Forest transferred in, and they have DeCardy Collins. So all those guys are coming in. And they all have high potential, and the reports out of camp are pretty good on those guys. And so this receiving core has so much potential, and we'll see if Grayson McCall can unlock it. He's currently going in drafts as the as the wider, sorry, the QB 40 and in around 16. So my question for you, based on all that, I just threw a lot of data out at Shazak.

But is Grayson McCall, like, is he's a guy that you're. targeting and drafts, or is this kind of ADP too high for him? So he, I have yet to have any shares of him this year in any of our best balls, which kind of looking through some of this play caller stuff, I feel like there's upside here with him. One of the things with him that I think has really fallen off since that freshman year where we all really kind of found Grayson McCall is he had

you know over 500 yards rushing that year with seven touchdowns on the ground right and each year has kind of gotten less and less. I think we know what we get with him on the passing production and I think it's really in line with what we expect in this offense. I think the upside is going to be on that rushing and how much they're actually going to use him in

that run game. I don't know if we're going to see him get close to that, you know. five, six hundred yards for the season. But I think you could kind of see it better than what we've seen in the last few years where it just, we weren't getting a lot of value there. So I like where Grace McCall is going right now. And I actually think it's a pretty good value because I think for the most part,

you're probably taking him as a QB2 in these drafts. And you've probably locked up a guy you feel really confident in. And if he, you know, the upside in the system, I mean, you've already went over it. I mean, these quarterback score points, right? And he's a guy that fits this system. So I think that the ceiling's there. I don't think I would go a lot higher, even though we haven't projected a little higher than QB40.

I like him right at that range. If he's a guy that starts to go a little bit earlier, he probably falls off my radar just a little bit. But I really like where he's going right now as far as his value. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, he's 15 spots. We have him as like QB 28, so he's going about 12 spots lower than that. And, you know, I think what Grace McCall is is he's a high floor play, right, with some serious upside.

I think, like, Robert and I has produced over and over again. And even last year, right, like Brandon Armstrong put up 19 points a game, and he did that while, you know, he split time in certain games, right? And he just didn't have, literally, Concepcion was the only weapon that he had in an offense. And this offense has a lot better weapons this year. Yeah, I think that's a huge, I mean, just what they brought in for that receiver room to add to what they had last year is a huge lift for this offense. We've talked about it before. I'm really excited to see this offense this coming year. I can't wait to see what it looks like.

nice offenses are always fun to watch. I've always enjoyed them. And I just think what they've done with this offense and the pieces that they've brought in, it's going to be really fun to watch. And I think it sets him call up for, you know, to have a really good year. Now, if he actually does it, it's yet to be seen. But all the pieces are there. You know, I think they put, they brought him in and they put good pieces around him to really get the job done.

And so, yeah, to your point, I love what they brought in this year. Yeah. And, you know, I think what last year, what this offense had the Billy Kemp role, right, with Concepcion, if we go back to the UVA days. But it didn't have, it didn't have, right, the Don Tavian Wicks role, who is the guy that stretches the field. I mean, but Noah Rogers or Grimes or Collins. You have three guys that could hit that. And then you have like the hybrid tight-in-ish role that I'm blanking on the guys. name, but the former Mississippi State QB that transitioned to wide receiver there at UVA. Anyways, that, you know, he was kind of that hybrid tight-in-ish role that played a lot of different things. They have that in Justin Jolly now. And so I didn't even mention him, right? But he's a guy that is a really good tight-in and has a really good potential there. So you see the pieces for what an I wants to do there in that offense that they had at UVA that he didn't have. at Syracuse even quite to what he was used to.

So the way they flip this this roster over the year has been really impressive over this offseason. So I'm excited. We'll see, you know, I mean, I should probably should be a guy that I should draft more. I mean, he's right in that profile. But so far, I think I drafted him twice. And then Bainbridge has drafted them once. and then, you know, every other person is drafted him with 17th round or lower.

So there we go. All right. Well, let's talk. Oh, real quick. I didn't want to mention this. They do have, this is getting way too in the weeds, but there is, the backup QB is Cedric Bailey or C.J. Bailey. He is from Shamanad, Madonna Prep, in Miami.

If that name doesn't sound familiar to you, that's where Jeremiah Smith went, who is the young receiver at Ohio State and Jojo Trader went there as well. He was their quarterback in high school. And apparently, like, he is killing it right now at NC State. Like, they're saying that he's a future star. So in dynasty drafts, when those start hitting in May, just write down Sidgaret Bailey and pick him in the sixth, seventh round. I don't think you'll be disappointed to have the guy that's going to be the QB in this offense for the next couple years.

All right. Next offense, I'll hand it to you, Zach. We have Major Applewhite at South Alabama. Yeah, head coach. So just promoted. He's been in South Alabama the last three years as the OC. Major Applewhite's really interesting to me because you can almost break him into two different OCs. And one of them is South Alabama the last three years where he really, it was more of a pocket passer. They had Jake Bentley, Carter Bradley. They averaged 20 points a game. So there wasn't really a lot of value at that quarterback position.

There was nothing in the run game coming from them. So there just wasn't really a lot. And so on the surface, it doesn't look like that's a system you want to go after the QB. But when you go back to Major Applewhite when he was at Houston and two years as OC, two years as head coach, he had Greg Ward and Deerick came there. And you look at those guys on what they did averaging 31 and a half points a game, which is if you just did those seasons in our database, he would be at top,

a top play caller for QBs, right? So, I mean, it's just insane what he did. And the difference there is, I mean, Greg Ward and Derek King, right, dual threat guy. So when Major Applewhite has that dual threat guy, there's a very high ceiling for that quarterback. And that's what gets me excited about Applewhite is just the potential in this offense if they can get that style of quarterback in the system.

And the other thing I noticed is so they don't have a quarterback or in those four years, they ran for a thousand yards, a quarterback ran for a thousand yards in one year, which we don't see very often, 518 and 674 and then double digit touchdowns, right? So when you go back through that dual threat, I mean, it's like a true dual threat where they're getting touchdowns. They're throwing Garrett King through 36 touchdowns and ran for 14 in one year. I don't expect that to happen, but it just shows you that when this offense is clicking like it can under Applewhite, the potential that's there, which leads us to Gio Lopez,

which we talked a little bit about on the last podcast. And he doesn't have a ton of experience. We only have five games with him. He threw for 475 yards last year, four touchdowns, two interceptions. He did rush for 18 times for 154 yards and two touchdowns. So there's not a ton there with him. But I think it fits a little bit more in that mold of the dual threat guy than just that straight pocket passer. And so I think that with him in that system, we have him at 24.2 points as QB30, which is,

It's probably higher than I expected when I first started these. But he's going as QB 53. So right now, great value on Gio Lopez from where the projections are. And again, it's really driven by the fact that when Major Applewhite has a dual-threat quarterback, those guys are really solid in CFF. So the other thing he has, a guy that's getting drafted pretty high, Jamal Pritchett, right? that receiver so he has him coming back he has devon voice and coming back dj thomas at tight end so he still has some of those weapons um in the passing game and i there's a lot of debate right now on

on uh running back who's going to be the running back on this team is it going to be kenroll bull up or or mc reynolds and um part of me is like maybe it's not going to matter too much if geo lopez is running that ball more, right? So when major Applewives having a quarterback that runs a ball, we see that production just drop off at the running back position. That's so true. If we're expecting Gio Lopez to be that dual-threat guy, I don't think we should expect to see that South Alabama running back

that we've seen in the last few years when they had that more of a pocket passer. The other thing, too, that I really like about this offense, for Gio is they got four starters back on the offensive line. So that can be really big for this offense. So a lot of things get me excited about what could be. Like I mentioned, Gio Lopez is going right around 44, the 44th quarterback, around 17. That's such good value for where you're getting him.

I mean, you probably already have three or four QBs, the time you get there. So you're taking this guy as a QB5. And I mean, he might not put it all together in one year, but he's going to have some big games. If it all pans out. But two things I have for you, Josh.

Yeah. One, what kind of usage do you think we're going to get from him in the run game? Right. those Greg Ward and Deerick King ran the ball a lot. I mean, Greg Ward had almost 200 rushing attempts in both seasons there, right? So that's a lot, that's a lot of attempts. And the other thing that's not so much quarterback related, but the slot guy in this offense is a guy that back when they had at Houston,

they used the slot more than the outside. Whereas the first tiers of South Alabama, and they really targeted the outside guy more. Last year was more of the slot with Lacey. But do we even have sort of a, I feel like we know the outside guys, right, with Pritchett? And then do we have a good sense of maybe the slot guy to target? Because there isn't really anybody else getting drafted receiver-wise.

So what do you think there? Yeah, I mean, I don't really know other than maybe Jamal Pritchett goes inside more and runs inside, you know, in the slot more. But, you know, I don't know what we're, I don't know what his splits were. Maybe you can look that up while I'm talking, but it's interesting with Gio. The difference between Gio and Ward and King is both of those guys, right, they were so, such dynamic athletes that they were wide receivers before they were quarterback's. And both of them, you know, wide receiver, or Greg Ward went on to play wide receiver in the NFL. I mean, that's how dynamic he is of an athlete.

Gio Lopez isn't that. He's more of a true quarterback. And when, you know, because we had limited tape on him last year, I went back and watched this high school film. And man, like, he definitely is a past first guy. Because I was a little shock that he ran seven, he had seven carries for 88 yards in the bowl game. But he's decisive, man.

Like, it just really stuck out to me how much he went through his progressions and he went to him quickly. but he made the past, he was very decisive with the passes he made. And so I'm curious. I think he's going to throw. I think he's been a lot better quarterback or thrower than Greg Ward and Derek King were in college.

And so I could see him more in the, you know, 400-yard range with maybe eight touchdowns rushing, because I just don't think he's going to want to run the ball that more. much. I mean, I think he's going to want to distribute. If his guys aren't open, I can see him pulling it down and running it. But his decision making, like the quickness that he processes is just, it's really, really good, especially for a guy at that level.

He's also a guy that Major Applewhite actually handpicked, right, instead of getting, you know, got Carter Bradley as a, you know, a guy that came in from Toledo. It wasn't really maybe his guy. and now he's got his guy. So I'm curious, man, I see the upside. But what about Pritchard? Did he just run all outside last year? No, he was, he ran about 300 to 100, 300 outside 100.

Yeah. So I just wonder. Same with, sorry, same with voice and two. So both of those guys did mostly outside, but they still did. about a third of their routes on the in or in the slot so yeah i mean because like i guess the thing with me with pritchett too is he's 5-8 164 yeah so you know if he's running outside he's running he's a z right he's not lining up on the line of scrimmage um so why not just put him in the slot and let him let him run free there you know i don't know i mean i guess he seems like he's a good enough

route runner too to be able to do it so to me it's seems like it's a natural fit for Pritchett to go inside. So, but that's just what I think. I mean, he wasn't going to get inside with Colin Lacey. That's sure. Right. Right. So, but he, I definitely think he could without Colin Lacey there. So that, that would be my answer. I think they ultimately move Pritchett inside. But I could be wrong there. I haven't looked it up enough.

So wouldn't you to wait for the G5 hide guys to, to do their podcast on that? Cool. Anything else? That's all I got. All right. That's good, man. Yeah, Gio Lopez. Yeah, I like him a lot. So, all right.

Jeff Leby, Mississippi State. He's our next guy, and this is a guy, man. He has, he's another one that just had dual threat quarterback after a dual threat quarterback over the last six years. So 2017, he was at South Eastern University, which is actually, it's like a, I don't even, NIA, what they are. are, though, is that's where my parents went to school. It's a very small, like, Christian school. And so you have that school to think for me in the world. So there we are. But that's all we'll talk about southeastern. But UCF and Mississippi was where he was at after that. And he was

at Oklahoma. So he had Matt Corral, right? And then he had Dylan Gabriel both last year. And then he was at UCF or the last two years at Oklahoma and then at UCF. So, And he used, you know, his first year in 2019, when he was with Josh, I think he was with Josh Haipa at that point, he didn't use Gabriel in the rushing game at all, really. But then after that, he hasn't had it, you know, whether there's Gabriel or Corral, that Corral had two years of 500 yards rushing. And then, you know, with Gabriel, he had 300 yards the last couple years. and then he had double-digit-digit touchdowns once with Corral and once with Gabriel. So this year he's got, oh yeah,

on average, the passing numbers are 2,800 yards, 25 touchdowns, and eight interceptions, and then 93 rushes and 316 rushing yards, and then seven touchdowns. So Blake Shapen is the projected R-B-B-1 there, and we have him at QB-55, in our projections, 22.6, fantasy points per game. We have them right around 3,000 yards passing, 24 touchdowns,

and then 180 yards rushing in three touchdowns. And I don't know how familiar people are with shape and me. He had 24, you know, around 24 fantasy points last year at Baylor with Jeff Grimes as an OC, played in only eight games, but I had 21, 100 yards passing, 273 yards per game, and then 13 touchdowns during interception. So yeah, he had a pretty decent year, considering he didn't play the whole year. And this is a guy that both like me and West Huber,

you know, one of my main mentors in this space, we were very high on him early on. And, you know, he's a guy that really took the job from Jerry Bowenan back in the day and, you know, sent him to USF. And so I like Shapen as a passer. I actually think he could be a really good fit with Jeff Leby. And, you know, I think he's got, you know, he's got Kelly Akarari. I don't really probably butcher that name, but he's the old UTAP wide receiver, right?

That was pretty much a go-rot wide receiver. And then they got Kevin Coleman, who was at Jackson State with Dion Sanders for a year. And then he went to Louisville and did okay this last year as a sophomore. and he's coming over and he's going to play the slot role. Kelly will be outside. And we haven't really projected both at 800 yards receiving. And so pretty similar in their production. Although Kevin Coleman's pretty much going on drafted, which is interesting.

And so anyways, Shapen's going as in round 27. Pretty much, the only reason he's going round 27 is, I think me. I don't even know who else is drafting them. I guess Mike Bainbridge drafted him twice, and then I drafted him, and then a few other randoms. That's about it. Yeah, so we're the only guys that are really on them,

but that's because, you know, again, I like Blake Shapen. He is, it's like, whatever, he's QB 68 in the ADP right now, and so we have projected at QB 55. So lots of question marks probably at Mississippi State, but what do you think? Are Mike and I crazy for even drafting him at all? You know, like when you look at what we've gotten out of Jeff Levy's QBs, it would be crazy to think that we're taking a guy at the end of a draft, right, because of what we've seen.

I actually really, really like taking him at the end of the draft because at that point you're just kind of taking shots in the dark anyways. I think on a lot of these guys, especially in some of these drafts where we're at 30, 35 rounds. And quarterback typically is the most accurate when it comes to projections. but there's also usually the biggest misses, meaning we don't have guys that we haven't projected way too low, and they outperform their projection as well. And Chapin's one of those guys.

I don't think he's going to be a top 12 guy at the end of the year, but I think he's going to give you some really good games. So I love where you guys take him at the end of a draft. I haven't taken him yet. I wouldn't take him anywhere outside of probably the top 25, right? I mean, he's an end of a draft guy for sure. But to all the points you just mentioned, I mean, there's just some upside here that you're going to get with him in these drafts.

I'll be really interested to see, too. I feel like he has some good weapons in the past game, but not. I still, like, I'm really interested to see how that really pans out because I feel like it could be better than even worth thinking right now just with some of the pieces that they have. But I also know too, it's that that program is just kind of, I mean, it's the third coach in like three years, right? So I feel like we need to, you almost need to give them kind of that year to kind of get going. and I don't know if we'll really see that full potential or even close to close to that potential hitting this year. So I think everybody on this team is still a bit risky.

But 25 rounds, you know, after the 25th round, I like that value a lot. Yeah. I totally agree with everything you're saying. I mean, he's a guy. It is definitely risky. I mean, you're talking about Jeff Levy, right? He's always coming into a really good system, right? Yeah.

You know, at Ole Miss, he was, I'm pretty sure it could be wrong, but yeah, no, he was, he's with Lane Kiff in there. And then, you know, he's with, you know, he basically has the full range of Oklahoma, who's the cupboard is never bare at wide receiver, right? He brings his guy over from UCF. UCF, he's with Josh Heipel. We know what he does. So, I mean, he's always had talent. So this is the first time he's really having to build it up himself. And so we'll see, right?

we'll see what he can do with what he's got. So, yeah, you know, taking shot to the end of drafts. But yeah, if he starts, you know, creeping up and, like, people start hyping him up. It's like, yeah, I'm out on that too for sure. But the other thing is, like, he's not, there's no QB battle. So there's others that we're going to talk about here that there's a QB battle. And so it's like you've got to take both of them. And so now you're wasting a roster spot ultimately.

And I don't love that. So you don't have to do that with Blake Shapen here at the end of drafts. So, all right. Eric Morris is next and I'll let you take it over from here. Yeah, Eric Morris, North Texas. So this is another interesting one. We had Eric Morris spend some time at Texas Tech with Mike Leach and Cliff Kingsbury. So it kind of comes from that whole air raid type tree.

He had, when you look at what he had at Texas Tech with Davis Webb and, Pat Mahomes. Those guys put up a lot of points, right? Mahomes, in his two seasons there, with Morris there, he was averaged in 39 points a game, which is just insane. He went on to Incarnate Word, where a lot more just pocket pass are there. They didn't have that quarterback run the ball much. Cam Ward came from Incarnate Word, followed him up to Washington State. So that was one reason why I think when Cam Ward transferred to Washington State, everybody was, or a lot of people were really on that high train with that offense going to Washington State. Cam Ward coming with his head coach, right, was going to be the OC there. He knew the system.

And he didn't have that grade of a year. And that was actually when you look at really the last 10 years of what Eric Morris has done, that 22 season at Washington State was. worst for quarterback play at 21, 21 points a game. But moving on to North Texas last year with Chandler-Rodgers, he got it back up to 26.8. So, I mean, he averages over 10 years 29.6 points a game. So he did it at FCS, some of that's at FCS. And then at Texas Tech, Washington State, North Texas, right? So just really solid. Not this is one of the rare. mostly pocket passer though you're not you're not there hasn't been a ton of rushing production come from his quarterbacks mahomes did um had he had two seasons where he had double digit

rushing touchdowns um yeah i don't think we expect that really in this system outside of when you have that type of type of a quarterback um you know in your system but uh overall his quarterbacks will generally get a couple touchdowns um and but not a not a ton of rushing I think last year, the thing I really like when you look at what he does is he fits his offense to his personnel. Chandler Rogers not great, but he got a little bit of rushing production in that offense. And I think with our projected QB1, Chandler Morris, this year, I think you can see something a little bit similar. I don't think you're going to see a ton of rushing production, but there could be a little bit upside there. but this offense is just they're going to throw the ball and they brought in Chandler Morris to come in and run this system.

He's very interesting to me because at TCU, he was a guy that two years ago, he actually won that starting job over Duggan. And I remember I got him in the CFF League and I was so excited because I'm like, you want this guy, you want this quarterback in the system. and he just did not look that good to start the year. And I think he got hurt and eventually lost that job and never got it back. And then it was almost the same thing last year. I'm like, here we go. It's the redemption season. It just never really felt like it clicked with him.

So this is year three of me looking at Chandler Morris and thinking, hey, maybe it's going to click. He's dropping down a level, right? So even though I don't think it's a huge drop, but it is a drop. but it is a drop from going from the Big 12 down, which could help. Again, it's a proven system with QBs. They throw a lot of touchdowns in the system. I mean, they average 30 touchdowns a season, right, passing touchdowns a season.

So that's always pretty solid there. So it's one of those, Chandler Morris comes in and can he get it done? The other thing, and I could be wrong on this, Josh, but I don't think he has joined the team yet. I think he has announced that he's going there, but he's actually not there for spring ball, which is also another little bit of hesitation for me. When you're looking at how well he'll perform,

the positive side, he's got some solid receivers, I think, Damon Ward and Linen sides, both back from last year's team, who I thought did pretty well. Sides is in the slot. Ward was on the outside. So they have two of those guys.

He has D.T. Sheffield coming in from Washington State, which is interesting to me because he ended up leaving the team. I don't know if there was overlap with Morris at Washington State and Sheffield. Yeah, I don't think so. He's a guy that could come in and run that slot there. They have Ragsdell back at Running Back. Trey Bradford, transfer from LSU at Running Back. so that they did bring in a piece there.

And then the other thing, this isn't great for him, but there's only two returning starters on the outline. So this one, it just feels like there's a lot up in the air with it, with him not being there yet this spring. But he's going around round 10 and usually at the 25th QB. So he's, and, and, and, And I will say I want Josh to not take him in the next few drafts because I want to see where his value actually would be because I think Josh has taken Chandler Morris nine times. So I think he's driving that ADP there.

But he's really going in that 10th, 11th round, which is lower than where we have ranked, projected 12th, which I think is a pretty high, closer to that ceiling than. for his projection and he's going about 25th, 26 QB. So I really like the value there. But like I said, Josh has drafted him a lot. So I don't know what everybody else, what everybody else thinks of him. So it's good value, but there definitely is some risk right now with one. The historical performance hasn't been great. And he's not with the team yet.

I don't believe. So Josh. Those are great points. Go ahead. Yeah, I mean, I guess just with you taking him so much, obviously you love the value with where it's at. Yeah. You just want to kind of talk about why you're drafting

and why you're targeting him so much. Yeah. So I have him nine times. You have him twice in Bainbridge. And then it's Get Lex-Mill who's Tom C-Topia. He's like one of our, you know, he's on staff with us actually at Fantasy Points. He's writing for us this next year.

And he's so sharp, right? identify his talent. And so part of why I've taken them is like, man, like I, I trust your our projections, right? I trust Tom Cetopia. I like Chandler Morris, right? He's stepping down the level. I mean, all Eric Morris. I mean, all these boxes get checked. But the points you bring up of like, I didn't even, I guess I just assumed he was on campus, because it is hard to get North Texas news. And I don't think he is. I think you're right. And so I guess the ultimate in questions like if for some reason he doesn't show up then man that's a lot of risk there that i'm i'm taking on if he doesn't show up um and but if he does and he's the guy i mean look

chanella rogers was like okay at louisiana monroe wasn't great um and so we've seen him do it with one chandler at north texas maybe you can do it with another chandler here um so the upside's so high but man like yeah we need we need some confirmation that he is actually going to step on campus because if not then we could be in trouble the other thing is they yeah d t sheffield i don't see how that guy doesn't make it impact that guy is so talented but we'll see i actually forgot he he was even going to be there until i was kind of looking at some stuff over the last few days because we had ward inside or top two guys right and um that's kind of where i focus and then i'm like oh d t shuffield's there i mean this is like that's like that's

could be that so that can make it interesting in that that receiver room and yes and i will say Zach like although they didn't overlap um i'm like eric morris had to be the one that recruited d t sheffield there because he didn't take that job until i don't think until after the north texas job until after the early signing period um last year so he was the one that recruited him which is why he probably ended up at North Texas. And look, like that dude was bawling out. I mean, whatever, he didn't work out, but he balled out and spring ball and up in camps.

And so he's got the talent. We'll just see if he can keep it together. And look, North Texas has had some dynamic wide receivers over the years. And the AC is a lot like the ACC and is defensively challenged. So there's lots of potential here. That's good. All right. Anything else?

That's all I got with him. All right. All right. Next up, I got to scroll back up and get to my guy. We have Mike Shanahan, right? So he is the Indiana OC. He followed Kurt Signetti there. They were both at JMU together.

Fun fact about Mike Shanahan, he hasn't really been an OC for that long. Really, he was a passing game coordinator for JMU from 2019 to 2021. but he didn't really take over as the OC until 2022. Now, so there's limited sample size here. And I don't want to go too deep here, but the work he did was incredible. Like he had Todd Cento, who I believe was at Temple, and then he went to Colorado State,

and people are like, all right, this guy is awful. And I think you, yeah, anyways, I don't say who's with. But then he comes to JMU. and my man puts up 3,000, no, 2,600 yards passing, which nothing to write home about, 398 yards rushing, and then he has six touchdowns.

But he only, I mean, he played in 10 games, right? So that's not a full season's work, he got hurt. He averaged 31.2 fantasy points per game. And this is a guy that did nothing in his first four or five years in college football. And then he takes Jordan, the cloud who basically starts as a freshman at USF in like 2019 maybe 2020 and then does nothing right he goes to Arizona he flames out and basically just sits on a bench for a couple of years he goes to jam you and this guy puts up 3,600 yards passing which passing was not his strong suit

and then he rushes for 285 yards and he has eight touchdowns and so we're not even talking about like crazy production in the running game. But, you know, both these guys were dual threats. And he, you know, puts up 30 fantasy points per game. So if you just took the last couple of years where he's actually been the OC and not just the passing game coordinator, yeah, he would rank number three in fantasy points per game. So he's done incredible work.

His projected QB1 at Indiana is Curtis Rourke. We have him projected at 21. point nine fancy points for games. That's QB 66. We haven't met 2,500 yards passing, 21 past TDs, and 300 yards rushing on 5 TD. So right around the average, right, of what we've seen with rushing yards, and then I know a little below what we've seen. Because look, I'm sure Mike Shanahan, he's a genius, but he's moving up to the Big Ten. And, you know, he's got some of the same.

He's got Elijah Surrat that's going with them, right? Got Donovan McColley, who's okay. They have E.J. Williams from back in the day with Clemson, right? Like, he's still there. So he's a target on the outside. And then you have Kishon Williams, who was a Wake Forest slot, who I really liked and thought he should have got more burden there. He's actually a guy that could be sneaky good to me because he's a slot wide receiver.

and JMU has featured, or Mike Shanahan has featured a slot receiver before. So anyways, he's got some potential there in the passing game. But, man, Curtis Rourke, he's going ADP, he's 1-26, right? So really late, QB 68, so right around where we have him projected. So he's a late, late pick. And this is a guy a couple years ago who put up some, like, great stats, right, at Ohio before he tore his ACL.

You know, he put up 3,200 yards passing in 11 games before he tore his ACL that year, had 25 touchdowns, and then he ran for 249 yards. He was not quite as good last year. I'm not really sure why he just looked. He just, I don't know, that whole offense kind of looked out of, and they looked funky, right? Like, out of rhythm? I don't know.

But he didn't look the same. but Kurt Signetti, man, I mean, he, they handpicked Curtis Rourke to be their QB. I mean, they could have had Jordan McLeod at the, you know, at the G5 level move up. They could have other guys and they chose to go with Curtis Rourke. So maybe they see something that, you know, we don't. Maybe they see that they can revive some things. I mean, I think Curtis Rourke has potential. But, yeah, I mean, what are your thoughts here?

Is this going to be a year zero? And like, this is going to be not good. Good. Yeah. So I've avoided everybody on this team, not because I don't believe in this staff. But, I mean, one thing that you see when guys make that jump up from a G5 to the Power 5, especially the Big 10 and the SEC, that performance is just not there. And I think you're seeing they brought in some guys that came.

from, you know, the G5 that's smaller. And it's just a big jump for a guy like Rourke, Surat, right? So not that these guys don't have the talent. I just think year one new system for some of these guys in the Big Ten. I don't. And Indiana was not good last year, right? Like, there just was not. I just don't see this year being good.

really at all. He's a guy that if you take him, if you take him, it's got to be one of the last few rounds, I think, in a draft. I probably won't have any of him. Maybe, you know, get him a last round of a draft. But I just, I don't, I think you're right. It's a year zero. I just think there's, I think the staff is good. but it's just such a different level of competition that they're going to be up against and I just don't like you mentioned Rourke. He just last year it just didn't click which was interesting because I was really expecting a big year from him. I think everybody was and it just never really came to fruition and I just, you know, I don't I just don't see that click. now when you're facing, you know, big 10 defenses. Right.

San Diego State was giving you fits and now you got to go up against Ohio State, Penn State, whatever. So, yeah, it's a big jump. It's a big jump. Yeah, he's a guy. I mean, of all these guys on this list, he's probably, even though, you know, I want to root for Kirk Singetti and Mike Shanahan, I mean, it's just going to be Elijah Surat has started to drop like a lot.

And if he's going to drop double-digit rounds, then I'll take some shots on them late. I think I got him in the 17th round. But other than that, like I'm pretty out on this offense. Yeah, even so Surat and even McColli, I might take late, just a flyer on a receiver there. But I don't think just looking at what they have, there's, I mean, there's nobody else on this team right now that I'd even be taking.

Right. Yeah, totally, totally. All right. We're going to wrap these. We have a couple more left here. Yeah. So you got Sean Lewis here, right? Sean Lewis. Yeah. So this one's interesting. He's now at San Diego State. So he spent a couple years with Dino Babers, right? A Bowling Green, Syracuse. We kind of saw what that offense could do, that system could do. But I feel like we really saw Sean Lewis when he went to Kent State. And they had that flash. fast offense, right? So this is a team that they run a lot of plays, right? They were averaging like 77 plays per game. They had a couple years back, like eight years ago where they were up over 80 plays a game.

So, I mean, this is an offense that he wants to move that ball fast. They spread the field out wide. They got their receivers way out wide. They've run a lot of RPO, right? They use that in their run game. And you really see that with the quarterback play, right? So the quarterback generally takes quite a few carries rushing attempts in this offense with that RPO offense. So you're really going to see that.

The dual threat quarterback is best in this offense. And when you look at it, it's just at Kent State because I feel like that's really his offense, right? that's the best representation we have. That quarterback averaged 26 points a game. But when they had Woody Barrett, Dustin Crum, and Colin Schley there, right? Woody Barrett, that was that first year. He wasn't great. He only averaged 20 points a game.

But when Dustin Crum got that job in 2019, that's when we really saw that offense thrive. And then even when Colin Schley took over, we saw that really kind of drop at that quarterback position where he was just averaging 20 points a game. The interesting thing about this offense, the quarterback's going to run the ball right. They're probably going to have four or 500 rushing yards on the season. They should have roughly six, seven touchdowns. The biggest difference between a good quarterback in the system and a very average quarterback when you're looking at it is passing touchdowns, right? Do they have, do they have the passing game to make this quarterback valuable? He's going to get some of his, he's going to get that rushing production,

four or five hundred rushing yards, right? But the seasons where with Dustin Crone, when they could, they could pass that ball and they had those receivers that can make plays and those big explosive plays, that's really what it comes down to. That's when this offense, offense really gets role. And so we have AJ Duffy from Florida State, which is, which is an, it's interesting. He limited time at Florida State, right? We'd never really saw much of what he could do. He, but he is a guy that fits this mold. He did, he ran for 817 yards in high school. So he can, he can run. He's a dual threat guy. He can, he can throw the ball over, or at least he could in high school. So I think he's going to be able to come in and run this system with how they want.

But again, it always gives me pause first year in the system. He's new to the system. So we'll see what he can do. We have him projected at 19 points per game right now, which is quarterback 93, which is pretty low. And the big reason why is just because we don't have that passing production bumped up right now. So that could change. But again, a lot of this value is going to rely on that passing production. He'll have the rushing production. I think the other piece to this, and I kind of alluded to it already, but just the receiver play, right? And what are we going to get from those receivers?

When you go back to that Kent State team, they had some really dynamic receivers that could go out and make plays. he has Meky Shaw who, you know, he's all right. Deshaun Pope comes over from Kent State. Yeah. So that could be interesting. I'm excited about that one. And then they have some running backs, which Armstead, Cam Davis, Luffy Sutton, right? A lot of those guys returning and only one returning starter on O line.

So this is one of those offenses where I just feel like, I don't know what we're going to get yet. I'm not too optimistic with it. Like I said, I think Duffy fits, fits what he wants in a quarterback. It is a step down for Duffy to, right? Going from Florida State to San Diego State. But again, year one, new offense. And when you look at San Diego State and where they've been traditionally,

this is a big change for this offense. And so I think it's going to. be really trying to find the pieces and it's probably going to take a little bit more than than just year one to really get rolling with this offense. I would expect we see something closer to as 2018 Kent State season with Woody Barrett. Not that AJ Duffy is Woody Barrett, but just kind of a similar projection there for what we have with this. And then again, his ADP, he's going around 26. He's actually only been drafted five times. So he's not being draft really at all just a couple times.

And so you can pretty much get him in any draft and get him late, which I like. But my question, Josh, you know, is, is AJ definitely going to be more like crumb or would he bear it? And do they have the receivers to get this passing game going? Yeah. I mean, they also have Lewis Brown coming in from Colorado State. Who's decent last year? I mean, he had some games.

Yeah, I think year one it's going to be tough. Oh, the other thing is they might have Marquess Cooper coming in, who's an old Kent State running back ball state guy. And so, go ahead. Good point there because actually Colin Schley, one reason why his production really dropped is because of Cooper. So, again, that's something to pay attention to. If Cooper does come in, that that's just going to take away from that quarterback production.

Well, and it's like, what have they done for the last? last 15 years at San Diego State. It's like run the ball. So, yeah, I think A.J. Duffy is the type that I would say, hey, stash him in dynasty, right? Like, get them at the end of your drafts or, you know, if you can get value for them, get them in dynasty. I think year two might be better than year one. I mean, this guy was at IMG Academy in Florida for his last year.

So he is no slouch. I mean, he played in the Under Armour All-American game. I mean, this is a guy. he just didn't have the talent to play at Florida State. And that's okay. Like there's a lot of guys that don't have that, but can he play at San Diego State? Well, I think he's a lot more likely to succeed there. So I think he succeeds, but maybe not year one.

Does that make sense? Yeah. Sorry, you just made me think of this. They, correct me if I'm wrong, but Danny O'Neill, true freshman QB, came in too. And I think they're pretty high on him. He's a guy that had offers from, um, Colorado, where Lewis was at before, Syracuse, Purdue, Louisville, right? So some bigger schools.

And so just when you talk about kind of a dynasty stash, he's a guy, too, that I've kind of checkmarked key brand for 1,300 yards, or 700 yards, his senior year, 1,300 total, so in over two years. So he does have that rushing production that I think really fits what. he wants to do he threw for 98 touchdowns in high school so i mean he's a guy that you know coming in he was he's a three-star guy but had some some bigger offers and now he's at san diego state and it just feels like he could fit this this offense too yeah i think that's a great point by you too though like it's going to take time to transition and so like dynasties maybe more we should

look because it will be successful it's just about when is it successful um and And, yeah, so, yeah, so that is San Diego State. We are going to transition now to our last one, and that's Washington State with Ben Arbuckle. He is the OC there at Washington State with the Cougars. And, man, he's had Cam Ward last year. Like before that, he was over at Western Kentucky, and he had Austin Reed. That's right. Austin Reed, who averaged 32.6 points per game.

Cam Ward came in last year, and he had 28.5. And look, Austin Reed, I think 4,700 yards passing, 40 touchdowns. And then Cam Ward had 3,700, and then 25. Both of them had eight rushing touchdowns, which is really interesting when they got around the goal line. He used them. And now there's a, you know, they're new QBs in town, right? Like, you have John Metteer, who's the,

Um, the backup there. Um, last year, he came in and ran some wildcat. And Zvi Eckhouse. And Zvi Eckhouse is a transfer, an FCS transfer like Cam Ward. He's from Bryant. He was up for some top awards at the FCS level. He threw for 8,000 yards at that level. Um, and he was really successful. And, um, and Ben Arbuck was bringing him in. I mean, Austin Reed was from the division two level. And he's at Western Kentucky. Right. And so, but Washington State is not in the PAC 12 anymore, right? And so they're going to play quite a bit of Mountain West teams. So we're not talking about crazy competition that they're going to have to play

the way that Kim Ward had to play back in the day. So they're not quite moving up two levels. But, you know, where I think most people in the industry that I've at least heard talk about this, they're going after John Mateer. We're more on Zvi at house. And look, look, we're not like, crazy slants in one way or the other. We just think, and probably a lot driven by me,

that Ziva, I, they probably brought him in for a reason. But head coach has said that this is going to go up until possibly the first game. So if you take one, you got to take the other. Both were actually rated very similarly in high school, you know, coming out. And so although Matyr got there right out of high school, Zyvi was just as, you know, as far as from a scouts perspective, he was just as talented. And you watch his tape and Eckhouse is very fun to watch. And so our projection, though, is 25.5 fantasy points per game.

It's QB21 for everyone's this job. Both of these guys are going in round 23 or 24 for John Mateer. And then round 26 or 27 for Zvi, house and who's drafting those guys it's you you and me uh probably so the problem is i want to draft them i just can't get them before josh does he beats me through it every draft every single yeah and so look man okay um fun fact i think i i'll have the number off the off you know i'm doing this off my dome but i think they threw the ball like 60 plus percent of the time last year at washington state if i'm not mistaken maybe it wasn't that high but it was like some

Sure number. 60%. Yeah. So that's crazy. I mean, a lot of times, you know, usually you see like 55-45-45 would be a high split for passing. But they're 60-40. I mean, that's a pretty, you know, pretty high split in my, you know, in my mind. And so they're going to throw the rock around.

And if they do that, like, they're going to get yards. So I don't know. What are your thoughts on drafting these guys late? Yeah, I love it. I mean, I know you kind of mentioned it before. You have to spend two roster spots on these guys right now just because we don't know. But the way I look at it is you're going to get a QB in a system that's going to throw the ball. And they're going to score points.

The other thing you've touched on that I really love about this team for this year is the schedule, right? the schedule is a lot easier. It's actually one of the, when we were looking at it, one of the easiest schedules compared to last year that any Power 5 team is going to have, it actually is the easiest. And so I really love that where they still have on that team,

some of those high caliber athletes, right? Some guys that can really play at a higher level. And they're going to be going against a lot of these smaller schools. And I just think with some of the weapons that they're going to have. I mean, Kyle Williams had a really good year last year. We're kind of trying to decide between Hudson and Hernandez in the slot, right? But we feel pretty good about what those two guys can bring. So it all comes down to the passing game.

And I think that they have the pieces. They have the matchups, which are two, the two things I really look at the most are going to be, what's the system and what are your matchups? And both are heavily in favor of either one of these. guys and you like i said taking them josh beats me in every draft to these guys i don't have very many shares at all um i wouldn't get too crazy yet with with where you're taking them um you don't want to you know you don't want to but um as as we start to hear more and maybe start to lean towards they start to lean towards one of these guys or it's gonna we get a good feel with that might change

but right now I love taking both of these guys in latent drafts. Yeah, I mean, the highest I've gone is round 23, but I'm usually going 28, 29, 25 with Zyvi and then John Mateer, you know, you got to go up a little bit for him because there's guys that will draft him. But never, I'll never go above round 20. Yeah, you're still in the 20, which, I mean, you're possibly, getting a top five QB in round 25.

Yeah, I mean, it's just like, yeah. So just taking that shot, I mean, these are the types of guys that, yeah, you take shots on and you just see, like, the G.O. Lopez is the world. I mean, the guys that are in good systems, we did this with Byron Brown last year, right? Before Jerry Bohanan, there was some mix up there, whether he was going to be in the mix. But, like, we slowly took them late, and, you know, Byron Brown is now a first round QB, a top three lock, and you're getting them in round 17 to 25 last year. So you want to target

the guys in these types of systems because they're not all going to hit, right? But we're talking about most of these guys we mentioned tonight are rounds 15 plus. And again, even more of them are around 25 plus. They're not even on most people radar. But these are the type of guys that can potentially win you leagues. And when you talk about for some of us where we're not drafting QBs so 8th and 9th round it's because yeah we're going to wait till round 20s to pick up our four through six seven QBs and and so this is these are the strategies that we're taken to to try to win our best ball leagues this year so any kind of final thoughts on this before we get out of here I think you touched on most of it again you know just wanted to highlight some

these guys in these systems that have really produced over the years that you can get late in these drafts and hopefully some of these guys are going to hit. I feel pretty good about most of these guys at least year one or like we've kind of talked about too, dynasty could be some dynasty plays in here as well. Yeah, that's really good. Yeah. So this is fun, man. I appreciate how you doing this with me and we'll have our boys back next week after they have fully recovered from the Bachelor Party, Mike and Froton. And yeah, it'll be a fun, fun time. A couple of promotions before we get out of here.

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