Fantasy Football Daily - College Fantasy Football + Dynasty: Building a Championship Roster

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

See more dynasty fantasy content here - https://youtube.com/live/xvk7BMDWWmA On this episode of College Fantasy Football All Access, the guys continue CFF Dynasty month with a conversation about roster construction. What does a championship roster look like in CFF Dynasty? We look at championship and runner-up rosters from dynasty leagues we participate in to break down the anatomy of a winner in this unique College Fantasy Football format. Join us each week and take your game to the next level with CFF All Access. Make sure to follow us for more valuable college fantasy football content! Where to find us: https://twitter.com/CFFguys https://twitter.com/CFFroton https://twitter.com/CFFChamps http://twitter.com/mbainbridgeCFF FantasyPoints Website - https://www.fantasypoints.com NEW! Data Suite - https://data.fantasypoints.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FantasyPts Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts #fantasypoints #cff #collegefantasyfootball #nfl #fantasyfootball #bestball #dynasty #dfs #nflbetting #fantasyfootballadvice  Subscribe to FantasyPoints for FREE - https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What? Why are you shaking your head? You're welcome. Welcome to the CFF All Access Pod. Once again, myself, Eric Froton. And it's a dynamic duo today with my co-host, Zach Hall, again for June, which is Dynasty Month. So we're going to get into a little bit of roster construction.

And as part of that, you know, we figured we'd kind of go position by position. We pulled up a couple of my leagues, one of Zach. leagues. I pulled in the Blue Bloods, too, as well from one of Josh's leagues. And we're going to kind of go through what has worked and what championship rosters looked like in these expert leagues that we participated in last year. So we'll try to go, like I said, by position, show you a few groups, say, all right, well, this is a group that worked, this didn't, and give our positions or, you know, our opinions on how to kind of attack these positions and, And just strategically how you'd look at these freshman drafts.

So without any further ado, we're going to start off with quarterbacks. So last year, 26 QBs through 400 or more passes this year. Obviously, there's different formats. And when it comes to scoring, a lot of what you're going to be looking at is going to have to do with the scoring system. As we've talked about, is it four point passing touchdown? Is it six? We even have a league. get we do an industry league where they simply would not allow the sixes.

I agreed to a gentleman's compromise of five begrudgingly, but luckily we made it happen there. So we're going to be able to look at four, five, and six point passing touchdown leagues that were kind of involved in. I kind of see how that affects the QB scoring. And that's obviously, we don't have to deal with this as much with the running backs and the wide receivers, though we will kind of get in the PPR and the difference between that.

But with the QBs, is it four or it's six, right? And that's important because like we said, 26 QBs through 400 plus passes. 34 QBs through for 3,000 yards or more. Now, when we think about that metric, it's not one that we think is a very difficult bar to clear. We think about 3,000 yards is sort of like a benchmark. That's where we need to be. Only 34 cleared it. We're looking at 4,000 yards.

And this is obviously extrapolated over the season. only two quarterbacks through for more than 4,000 yards last year. And one of them was Michael Pennix. He also threw for 5,000. He was in the 4,900 range. He had 15 games to do it. The other one, Bo Nicks, 14 games. You know, so you look at that and say, wow.

And that's pretty consistent, frankly. You know, it was a similar number the year before. This year, we almost had a third with Carson Beck. He had 3,949 yards. My Carson Beck, as we all know, my beloved. But when it comes to quarterbacks and touchdowns, 10 quarterbacks cleared 30 touchdown passes last year. Very, very important metric to be aware of when we're talking about the difference between the six and the four-point scoring. 23 quarterbacks through 25 touchdowns or more.

So we're looking at a league that, you know, unlike the conventional pocket passers of, you know, the NFL, You can skin a cat in many different ways with quarterback. Zach, if you don't mind, tell me a little bit about, you know, kind of how you view the position, some of the things you look for before we get into system. And, you know, QBs in general for you when you're scouting dynasty. Yeah. You know, one of the first things I look at is obviously going to be the touchdowns. I always try.

I always have a general rule where I'm trying to get a quarterback that's going to get me 35 touchdowns, whether it's through the air or on the ground. and those are the guys that I'm really trying to identify early in the season. Who's going to do that? And you're right, it definitely plays into how much you're going to get for a touchdown. And that can really change, you know, how you're going to look at who's valuable, who's not. But I thought you touched on it great where, you know, if you get a guy that's going to throw for 3,500 yards and get you 30 plus touchdowns, right? That's somebody I'm definitely going to try and go for.

I'm obviously looking at systems. the systems that are going to that you see the dual threat guys really thriving. That's something I'm always going to try and find, especially in a dynasty where the dual threat guys, especially with injuries, right, you're kind of wanting, hey, who's the starter and then who's going to be that backup, right? Or that next man up. And that's something I look at quite a bit too, is that next man up piece. who that's going to be.

And when I'm thinking about Dynasty, I try and, you know, if I'm finding success with a guy like a Bo Nix, right, you're going to try and get that next man up so you can really have a monopoly on that system or on that value. So those are a couple things I look at. The scoring is a big one with quarterback just because they touch the ball so much. And then obviously any quarterback that is going to be running for over 500 yards, always you know that's that's something that that that I look for as well um but those are really the main things that that I'm looking for um just kind of general when when I'm kind of doing

some uh research on on quarterbacks and and then a system I'm I do a ton around systems um play callers who what they have success with um so that's you know that's kind of where when I'm out my my guys for dynasty and I'm looking at my current roster. I like to put them in buckets where I have like the guys, my elite guys, right? The guys that you can play every week. I call them streamers, the guys that maybe you don't want to rely on every single week, but you're going to get a couple weeks there throughout the season. And then you got your next man up or kind of a handcuff type guy.

and then I'm looking at the guys that have potential that aren't yet proven but but you feel really good about to me it's going to be you know you're thinking about a guy like it's not a great example but john mature at Washington state right the system is there but you don't necessarily know one if he's going to be the guy he's he's in a competition with with at house right now but he's he's a guy that he's he can do a little bit on the ground and that's a system where they're going to score points. So he kind of fits in that bucket for me where I'm also trying to find some of those guys that, hey, it's a great system fit or he's just a dynamic athlete that I think is going to really be able to put up some points this season. And they kind of start to find some of those guys to kind of supplement the rest of my team after you kind of have, you know,

like you're Dylan Gabriel this year, right? you have him and maybe you throw in like a KJ Jefferson and it's like, all right, who are those next guys to kind of start to fill the gaps or think about, I thought you did a great job talking about last week. Finding guys, it might not be this year, but that year two, right? Who's going to really contribute in year two? And a lot of those potential guys fall into that category for me. So just kind of a general overview for me.

That's really what I'm looking at or trying to find in these dynasty. leagues. Yeah, all great points that I will look to elaborate on. We're going to take a quick break right now, and I'll come right back and develop that a little bit further. Get you and your crew to the big shows with Go Transit. Go connects to all the main concert venues like TD Coliseum in Hamilton and Scotia Bank Arena in Toronto. And Go makes it affordable with special e-ticket fairs. A one-day weekend pass offers unlimited travel across the network on any weekend day or holiday for just $10. And a weekday group pass offers the same weekday travel flexibility from $30 for two people

and up to $60 for five. Buy yours at go transit.com slash tickets. All right. So as we kind of got into, and that was some great stuff there, Zach, important points about, like you said, projecting the next man up at high profile, at least passing offenses. You can get into production obviously, you know, in general, but quarterbacks tend to vary in terms of their ability to run from, that's not something like system-wise you can kind of project. So that's kind of a case-by-case basis. But if we look at last year a couple of systems that were incredibly productive in terms of the passing yardage that have guys who are either going to be on their way out or upperclassmen, you look at.

Oklahoma State, Alan Bowman, quietly, quietly had 3,460 yards just under that 3,500 yard threshold. That was the 16th most in the country. We've seen what Gundy does time and time again. Maybe they bring in another, you know, it's worth looking at. Do they bring in another transfer, you know, possibly? But, you know, system-wise, Oklahoma State, I don't see Alan Bowman getting hardly any respect in our dynasty drafts. And that's a guy that, sure, 15 passing touchdowns. because of the LA Gordon effect.

Well, I'm not worried about the Ellie Gordon effect with the next man up. You know, for next year, you get one year out of them and then, you know, it's going forward. Obviously, a system I really always try to prioritize. Another one, Troy, year in and year out, I feel like they're underrated in terms of their usage. We've seen the receivers be successful. You had basically three guys last year. You kind of go across the board, Chris Lewis has hurt now, unfortunately. but they took their turns kind of blown up.

And while they didn't have one true alpha, even though Jibray Balber was pretty close, they were really effective. And for Gunner Watson, he eclipsed 3,500 yards. John Summraw will be at Tulane this year, brought in Cooper Lagos. You got, no, no, I'm sorry, that was Tulsa. But he's at Tulane now.

That's a fact, that's something I want to be involved in. And you're always starting to sort of see that. in terms of the way that people are shifting their draft, you know, philosophies around that. You mentioned Washington State, but dude, a guy who, as we discussed, I looked at a lot of different dynasty rosters, a guy who keeps popping up on our dynasty leagues, the experts, on the successful teams in each of the five leagues I analyzed, is Joey Aguilar for Appalachian State. I mean, he came, the Appalachian State QB had always been a very low volume. sort of a, you know, a prospect.

The three running backs of yesterday year that they just sort of churn out, you know, it was kind of assumed, all right, it'll be the Nate Noel show. Well, that didn't quite happen. They ended up throwing the ball a lot, 3,700 passing yards, 33 touchdowns for Aguara, eight yards per attempt. I mean, he was out there, gun slinging. And a large reason that his receiver runs. He's been, I mean, he's got.

in the top 10 rounds in our best ball drafts. That's something that I want to be aware of what happens in the succession plan there at Appalachian State. So Memphis as well is another hot one. Yeah, Hennigan's getting there. He's up. He's a scene. He's shooting me an upperclassman.

I want the next guy in Memphis. Every year, it doesn't matter if it's Silverfield. It doesn't matter if it's Norville. It doesn't matter if it's 20. They're rocking and rolling at Memphis. So those, you know, some of my pros of favorites, obviously, I want to be a lot of to throw in Colorado State too with the J. Norvell system. Once again, I mean, Fowler Nicolosi over there wasn't particularly great. He still threw for over 3,400 yards, you know?

And lastly, I would say, one more guy that has been on this, I mean, every single team that I see that made it, the one guy that I see is on all of them was Chandler Rogers for North Texas. very, very low cost of acquisition. He's a Cal now, we know. But a low cost of acquisition, you could get them in the dispersal draft. Wasn't somebody he was taking. You can still get them. And I mean, I'm in the Nate League right now when we're doing it.

We're in like league, I think we're in like 13, round 13. We're 24 guys. So that's like round 26 in a supplemental. You're still seeing upperclassmen, that junior senior mold, who are still, you know, maybe 550, 500, type guys, they're still out there at this point. So I feel like if you're out there and you have to prioritize positions, QB needs to be prioritized.

And it has to go with the proper systems. Again, that would be, you know, Chandler Morris this year goes over in North Texas. But having not done it yet, having been injured every single year, that's another fertile hunting ground that you can go and sort of take a shot at those guys behind them. and you can profit from it. So anything else you want to add on the QBs to kind of elaborate. Yeah, no. So when you brought up Joey Aguilar, that made me think,

because he really braided out as one of the most consistent quarterbacks last year as far as weekly performance. Not a super high ceiling like you were going to see with those elite guys, like a Michael Pennix or a Bo Nix, who those guys, you know, you might get a 40-45 point week. from them. Joey Aguilar are not, you're not really expecting that, but his floor was so high. And I think that's something, too, when you think about these dynasty rosters. I mean, obviously you want those guys that have that really high ceiling.

But I think when you get into some of these leagues and you look at the teams that are really successful, they're going to have the quarterbacks that are just, they have are very consistent, right they can count on week to week like a joey aguilar who he might only get you at 25 to 28 points but if you have two quarterback slots and you can fit him in every single week and you know that these other teams in the league might not have that consistency at the position where you're really going to have a have a better chance at success because of that and as i was writing up some of our our quarterback um uh profiles for for what we got coming up soon I was trying to find or point out some of those guys that maybe don't pop off in the rankings, but like Brady Cook's another guy, right? Just super consistent all last year, right? And if you can find spots for guys like that in your dynasty roster, and you obviously have to pair them with guys that have a high ceiling,

but when you can just rely on a guy like a Brady Cook or a Joey Aguilar to give you that consistent 25 to 30 points, you're going to really set yourself up in a good spot to compete in your dynasty league. Yeah, and we'll get into what successful dynasty leagues looked like at the quarterback position. But just speaking from, we'll run down it, the industry dynasty, David Holden was the champion last year. He went nine and one, rostered 11 quarterbacks. What I found really interesting, this team fascinated me. Like I looked at this team up and down for hours, didn't have a particularly sexy QB room. And it's like he's kind of the one exception.

Dequan Finn, and this is, again, we'll go to style. This is five point passing touchdown, 0.04 points per passing yardage. So this is a passing like yardage suppressed league and points. You got the five touchdowns. Dequan Finn, 22.7 points per game was, his every week start as his one. And then he rotated between Nicholas Vatiotto, 21 and a half. Spencer Rattler got some starts at 20 and a half.

And then finally, Kate Klubnick, yes, she started in the final at 18.1 points per game. And that sort of shows like it was an attrition sort of a thing, just sort of a rotation. He really played matchups, like beautifully. If you can have a good enough room that's deep enough, man, he just took the good matchup every week, and he played it flawlessly.

He had an unbelievable running back room and his wide receiver is just in the PPR format. I just carried him, but that was, you know, the exception on the quarterback room, but you can kind of get away with that in the suppressed passing leagues. It balances out the skill and the QBs. Because, I mean, you look at the runner up.

It was JD Yankee. in that league. He only went six and four. All right. So it wasn't like he was a juggernaut, but his team hit, it was a different kind of dynasty team where he had younger guys and they crested at the right time. Just squeaked in the playoffs, we made it to the finals.

And he's a guy, he had Chandler Rogers. And he started for him in the finals. Another guy that was on quite a few dynasty rosters, and it speaks to the opposite of Rogers. It is the build method. And that was Drake May. I mean,

took a beating. You heard a lot of slander on Drake May's good name throughout the lead-up to the draft process. Like, oh, you know, his footwork wasn't as good as 22. You know, Longo was gone, which, you know, mechanically it affected him. But from a fantasy point of view, he was rocking. And on quite a few of these successful teams, again, we're on the runner-up. Drake May is doing it, and he's involved. Shador Sanders, he also had. And another guy that was more consistent, but wasn't sexy. Graham Mertz, not bad last year. Only 21 points in this format. That's like a stripped down league. So the thing is, JD, he rode those QBs. He had those three top ones that are all right on the money. Channel Rogers, Drake Mays, Spencer Sanders, all 27 point plus in this format.

Not a lot of QBs were at that range. You saw David's entire team did. But then we look at the highest scoring team, right? And it's not like you're getting blown away again. That was me, just saying. High scoring team in that format. I only rostered eight quarterbacks, but I had a good strong top four. Caleb Williams helps 31.5 points. He was the only quarterback out of all of these three top teams that average over 29 points per game. That's because of the suppressed scoring system. From there, Garrett Green, 27 and a half, again, the ability to run and throw the true dual threat, very important.

I had Joey Aguilar, as mentioned, and Preston Stone as well. But unfortunately, Preston Stone, only 24 and a half points per game. The SMU system, really attractive and six-point passing touchdowns. We'll see what happens with the ACC. I haven't had a lot of shares of Stone. I'm curious kind of how you feel about him with SMU going the ACC, and what do you kind of look at his projection? Yeah, so Stone is a guy that I, so I actually just finished his question.

quarterback profile and I started it with he's a guy I really like I like I really like Preston Stone I actually in the one dynasty I'm in I have him rostered but I am concerned the step up to the ACC I think is going to be that that schedule is quite a bit tougher and he's a guy and it's not as big of a deal but he does have the three by weeks which which just makes it a little bit less ideal when you're when you're having to find find three different weeks for him. I still think he's going to have a good season. I did drop his projection just a little bit because of that uptick in the opponents that they're going to be playing this year. I don't think it's going to be, I think it's going to be an easier transition than some of these teams like a UCLA into

the Big Ten and that. But I do think it's going to be a little different. I also think, too, that's an offense where it's you need we need a receiver or two to really step up this year and help him out a little bit I think they have they have some talented guys some guys I really like um I'm waiting for Hudson to break out we're all waiting on Jordan Hudson but it's like they have the guys there so I think that's going to be it's going to be dependent on that as well can they have a couple of these receivers um you know help him out in this office is it going to yeah yeah Jake Bailey this year Jake Bailey because I feel like we heard good things about him in the spring and he's almost the nominal one.

Yeah. God, Jordan Hudson, what's going on? It's time. Yeah. Yeah, I totally agree. And just the jump in strength of schedule, you wonder what where that's a traditional, that's a honeyhole SMU, sunny Dikes brought that place up. What does it look like this year?

And with Stone entering year three, you know, how, is the succession plan ready? Is it time to go for it right now? How does that look in the AC? But regardless, I mean, I'm in. I'm pretty good on that. Moving to, I'll go through the CFB winning edge here at Dynasty and kind of look at that because that is a 20-team league with six-point passing touchdown. So it's a nice little, you know, difference maker you see between them.

So this is the same in terms of passing yardage. you get, but for passing touchdowns, it's six. And it makes a difference. Drake May is a nickel draft night one, also the high score and the regular points. It was a wire to wire. Brandon Underwood did an incredible job. Rostred 13 QBs. Drake May was the one, but he had 32 and a half points for a game as opposed to 28.

And a half with the previous scoring system. It's a four point difference by just five to six. I saw in terms of the difference in the scoring system between these quarterbacks, it's about five to six, about five, five and a half, roughly. Difference between the four-point passing touchdown system to the six on a per-game basis. Substantial. I mean, five points matters. And you see it with that. Agiar goes from 25 to 30 and a half now. Big difference. And again, Aguilar is on the winner. And he's the number two QB on that winning team.

and that's the guy at a 20-team league, he picked him up in the draft last year. So that's somebody you didn't have to go and invest in. And a lot of these G5 QBs, you don't even need to invest in them early because you're going to probably have to go for the high-profile arch, Jackson Arnold, you know, the Dante Moore's. But there's a lull in between that first round and the premium guys and where you can wait four, five, six rounds on those supplementals and get pretty talented guys who are coming in and are going to have jobs at G5

that weren't taken before. So I do think that there's a duality to it of where the value is with the QBs. You go early on the big boys, you don't get one. I think the value isn't waiting and value plucking because we have another guy that's also here that we also heard and was on the last one's winner. Nicholas Vatiato quietly didn't cost a thing

had a rough bowl game in 22 he came in and started and he was almost like they had the 2 QB system and he was more of the running QB so I looked at him almost I almost dismissed them

and hand waved them because I'm like oh we got a solo threat here and he didn't look particularly good at all in the bowl especially throwing he ran I want to say like 1-11 but you can you can And who knows what that number is coming from in my head. But it goes, again, the show, May, Agiar, Vatiato, and Thomas Castellanos, BC.

That's a 20 team league. This is a very competitive league. You got Drake May and then three guys that were nobody's heading in. You forget, Cassiano's was the two. It was right down on the wire with him and Moorhead coming in. And Moorhead was the incumbent. He was transferring from UCF, hitting on those QBs where you don't have to invest big and you can stack the rest of that roster with big high-profile running backs,

it's a winning strategy. It really is. So feel free to kind of color that and put your own spin on what you think. Ross construction wise with the QBs and then we'll move on to running backs. Yeah, just real quick, I've been looking at in draft. and the hit rate and how how positions fall. And it's, I think your point about getting those G5 quarterbacks and really any position, it's funny because when you look at the first few rounds,

obviously the hit rate's better than it's going to be because you're really, we've identified maybe the top freshman or, you know, the guys that were transferred and are out now at a spot. Like a Chandler Morris is probably going to be out there for some, in some leagues, you know, a guy like him where the hit rates, probably going to it's a little bit easier to predict there but then when you get into kind of those um around six through 12 which is i think where guys start to take a lot of shots at power five freshmen um the hit rate really drops and then it comes back up when you get kind of towards

the mid teens and into the 20s and i think that's when you're seeing first that's when you're you're you're starting to find guys that um probably the older junior seniors that you guys avoid just because, hey, I'm only going to get one or two years out of them. But I think that's when you really start to see a lot of those Power 5 guys go that you're not super sure on at the moment, but like a Vadiato probably wasn't getting drafted them. But a guy kind of like that, right, where he's in a system that's produced some good quarterbacks and you're like, I'll take a shot, right? I need another quarterback. There's, I'll take a Power 5 guy. and that that hit rate starts to jump up just a little bit more

once you get into those mid-teens. And that's when you're starting to see more of those power. They're the G5 guys that are going to start, but you're a little bit unsure of. So I thought that was a good point. Just bringing that up where you can find really good value in the G5 at this position. And just the last thing I'm going to say,

really interesting to hear who was on these rosters. I was looking at in my Dynasty League, we have one guy that he's only one at one time, but he is, he competes every single year for it. He's always in the playoffs. And I've been looking at his. And it's really, he, the way he's constructed his roster, it's interesting because he's not taking a ton of chances on young guys, young freshmen. He's really going out and finding guys that, like he had, he had Bonnix and Pennix last year,

which is just like, I mean, how do you even compete with that? He didn't actually end up winning the league, but he was right there. Will Howard, Garrett Green, Jordan Travis. Graham Mertz was a guy that you mentioned earlier. Yes, yes. Jay and Daniels. Yeah. And it's like that's a guy that he, you know, he didn't even draft.

He went undrafted and he picked him up. And so, I mean, there's going to be guys out there. But if you can find those gems at the quarterback, that's going to, that's going to really, elevate your dynasty team. Yeah, absolutely. And it goes for the Blue Blood's dynasty here too. Josh was the runner up.

Garrett Green, Caden Salter. Caden Salter is another one. You cannot understand how important Caden Salter was to everybody. Obviously, he's going first round now, but he just kind of goes to to show a Quddlewanda, Tennessee. And again, he was in a

battle with Jonathan Bennett. So as long as that lasted. But, you know, it just goes to show. And obviously my binky boy, Carson Beck, he was in my home league. He was the QB. He was, you know, every week starter for myself as well. Jackson Dart was great. But we'll move on to running backs here.

I think that if it doesn't, we're going to go and take a quick break and then get on to the running back position. Excellent. Before we do that, let's hit my man Steve Jackson there, and he makes a very good point. Projecting next up is harder with the portal and talent more important now. And you look at teams just before we go in terms of the QB. Hey, Alabama, Ohio State, you know, the big boys, event Georgia, you know, Gunnestockton. These guys, Vandergriff just left, went to. Kentucky. You go and you stay the course with some of these guys, and they're going to go and land premium gigs,

preferably for us, you know, you want to see some of the Alabama guys go down on the G5. Like, hey, hey, Simpson, Lonergan, get out of there. We know Aaron Nolan's going to have to find a new home soon. Like, I'm telling you, that's happening. So absolutely valid point. Guys who wait their turn and get beat out,

just because they get beat out, spot and if they're talented guys, they can still pay major dividends down the road. And that's a great point. Looking at Dylan Morris with James Madison. He's got a starting job, you know, for those deeper, deeper leagues. So, but we'll get into, you know, running backs now. Sort of make the transition. And, you know, with this position, uh, what I really like looking at is the overall, how many got, what does the production look like overall? How many guys are doing it? because it's in a position where you need to have a lot of them. You can't just have one or two run.

You've got to have depth. You have to build in my picture. Like you can have the top of the QB room and you can be all right. You get two, three, and you kind of heard that. You can have one star, one Drake May, one, one Caleb, and then you can fill in the twos and the threes with a good solid group. It just doesn't work that way, in my opinion, with the running backs. and how the position has changed, frankly.

I went back to 2018 to kind of give you, you know, some perspective. In 2018, there were 59 running backs who ran for 1,000 yards or more. 42 of them went for 1,010. This year, 41 ran for 1,000 yards or more. 31 running backs with 1,010. We're talking about that's a 50%, you know, almost reduction here of that. You know, if we're putting in, actually, we'd be 50, it would be a 33% or so.

It was like right in that two thirds. So, I mean, that is a, we're talking about C changes in terms of how the position is used. And it just sort of, you know, goes to look at, well, all right, well, where is this coming from? And what's interesting about that is the division of it is where it's coming. 41, you know, with 1,000 yards, 22 P5, 18, G5. Kind of a balance there. You know, so it isn't like the power five is the more dominant. You want to focus on more of those.

It's a pretty close, 2218 is pretty close. Split when it comes to a thousand and 10, 15 and 13 power five advantage to the G5. So, I mean, you're going to get production down there. And when we're talking about freshman drafts and we're talking about, you know, where we're prioritizing, it's just nature that the P5 is going to have the more prioritized running backs because you have more certainty. You have a higher recruiting rate. There's more sort of scrutinized these running backs are and more parsed. They simply aren't going to be able to have the depth of these three star running backs that are just coming in generic, you know, 80 to 85,

247 grades. How is that running back room going to shake out? We just, don't know. We don't know how these guys work out. So the interesting thing is, if you can hit, if you can play that market right, if you can play the information game and look and see, what are the buzz guys, where, you know, where's this coming? How are the spring games? Watch the spring games. Look at the spring reports. Look at the summary reports. That's where you really get the value. And you can bolster sort of that room through acquiring G5 running backs who, you know, if you look at it, 2023, the same numbers are constant for 2022.

There was 40 running backs who had 1,000 yards. And that was a straight 2020 split. So that was 50-50. And then you went over to in 2022. It was the same amount. It was 28 had 1,010 with a 15-13 split. Again, that's where we're at. If anything, if there's something that I'm looking at that sort of differentiates

where, you know, things that have changed, to trends. 2022, 37 running backs with 200 plus carries, a 17 P5 to 20 G5 split. More volume was happening in the G5 level this year. That changed to just 27 running backs that had 200 carries, down from 37. So what I see and what I've kind of looked at and we'll go through the rosters as well, the past catching running backs have become so much important in today's day and age. So I'll let you take the floor, Zach.

Tell me a little bit about how you approach running backs and some thoughts. Yeah, so you just nailed it right there, past catching running backs, right? That's the first thing I really look at. So one thing about the running back position in general, and I'm not sure your thoughts on this, but I think that it's always, it's one of those where when you go into a season, And you always at the top end, I always feel the best about it, being able to identify those top guys. But running back is by far the, it dries up the fastest. And it's the hardest position, in my opinion, out of the top quarterback receiver running back to stream.

It feels like you can always find some guys at quarterback that can stream based on matchups. You can also do it with running back, but I just find that it's generally a little bit tougher. So if you don't have, if you're light on running backs, the running back depth on your roster, it's really hard to overcome any of that. The G5 angle is a really good one. I know on my teams when I've had the most success, it's when I'm able to find some of those G5 guys that,

you know, you don't have to spend a lot of hydrant. draft pick on them or thinking about even waivers your budget, right? Maybe you don't have to spend as much there to get some of those guys early in the season, but they're difference makers. I mean, looking at some of the teams that are really successful in my Dynasty League, they're filled with those G5 guys. And those guys, a lot of them were either drafted late or they were claimed throughout the season, but guys like Kamani Vidal, right?

Like busted onto the scene two years ago, just this really solid guy to have on your roster. That's just going to help you out. Malik Sharad last year at Fresno. I know it was a lot of it. Crossed in terms of his receiving. You get 40 years. I want to say receptions maybe.

That sticks out. Yeah. So just some guys like that, but kind of back to the point, you want the guys that they're going to utilize in the past game. and then, you know, again, I feel like running back, the more depth you can build on your roster, the better off you're going to be just because that's one where it just runs out so fast when you're, and this is running back too is one where I really like to handcuff.

So if like, let's say you have Devin Neal, you know, on your team. high shaw as well right um talented running back but i'm going to go and get that guy just in case neal something happens to him or after he off to the nfl right you got that that next piece in there um we talked a little bit about having that next man up um at quarterback i love it even more at running um just because it's you know if you can identify that next guy that it's not going to transfer kind of what we just got done talking about um you know you could be in a in a pretty good spot as far as monopolizing a system that produces really good running backs. So I tend to look at it that way as well.

A great example. You talked about Hennigan at Memphis, but what they did last year, yeah. Like Watson last year. And now you bring in Mario Anderson, who I would assume is out there in some dynasties. He might still be on some rosters, but he didn't do a whole lot at South Carolina last year. So he's a guy that maybe somebody dropped for some space on their roster, but just trying to find guys like that that have hit the portal,

go into a system like Memphis. So, yeah, that's kind of where my head goes with the running back piece. Yeah, what's really interesting, and I'm glad you, you touched on Watson, too, because I was going to get on him, in terms of the receiving backs, right? in terms of the top seven receiving backs last year, six of them came from the G5. That's heavy duty.

I mean, that's, what more do you need to know on that? All of them had over 40 receptions, you know, in that front. And, you know, we're factors. You know, we're talking about it. You mentioned Sherrod, mentioned Blake Watson, Remy, Ashton Genti. Mean Dean Conner's, as we know, all over the place.

Meen Dean Conner is a top 10 guy in turn, top 10 round. running back in, you know, the startup best balls we're doing. So, you know, when it comes to the prioritizing and wanting those high volume receiving running backs, I mean, that's what happened last year, Jermaine Brown as well, you know, for UAB, which just bodes well for our boy Lee Beebe, right? And I'll leave it with this here. In 2022, this is crazy. in 2022, 27 running backs, all right, had 30 receptions or more.

Last year, 18. I mean, you look at that trend and what I say, and that's not just with the carries. Because like we said, we just went through that in terms of the reduction in the 1,000-yard backs. You know, we go from 59 in 2018 to 41, 40 the year before. It just goes to see the specialization where the keeping guys fresh, there aren't as many bell cows anymore. You know, there's only so many Ollie Gordons. And, you know, the ones that do are increasingly more important. It's just that simple.

And that goes for volume on the receiving side too. Yeah. You know, the changing over, the constantly having a fresh guy in, you know, that sort of NFL ethos worked his way down to our level two, 27 to 18. So you have to have the more volume, you know, the better in that front. And the G5, you cannot ignore G5 running backs, you know, in that sense. I think that's really the, you know, what I see here. Yep, I agree with you. So in terms of roster composition, right, we'll go back.

We'll start again with the industry dynasty league. These are all the same. That's the beauty about running back. It's apples, apples, except for obviously PPR. Some leagues don't have PPR. My home league, a long time, we didn't do PPR because we started, you know, forever ago. And we refuse to change our system. And there's some elements I really like about it.

But I kind of wanted to get into that now to kind of show what the difference is points per game. It's wild. And running backs really do. I mean, they're pivotal in our league because it neuters receivers. But we'll get into, you know, industry dynasty league. we'll go back to David's team you know top league didn't have great QBs this is by far the least inspiring

QB room man the running backs brought it Penny Boone Penny Boone had took the least amount of carries in order to hit 1,010 last year at Toledo you know so he had him at 21 and a half Blake Corum at 21 we're really interesting about

Corum he's on a couple of these successful teams he didn't catch passes didn't catch passes, but he punched in so many touchdowns. It didn't matter. You're still a 21 point per game guy. But that's almost like a dying model kind of, no pass catching, you know, a hundred yards, maybe eight, ten receptions or something.

It's kind of, it's against the grain. And so is Quentin Cooley for Liberty. Quentin Cooley, one of the great breakouts of 2020, 23, 23 and a half points per game, he led the team. And Quinn Coley had like six receptions all year. But he still put up 23 and a half because he scored. Yeah, touchdowns, yep. Like, you have to have the touchdown volume.

There's no 10 touch. You have to have like the 16, 18 that he put up. You got to be there. You got to be in the mid-high teens to make up for it. But he did. Dylan Johnson, 18 and a half points per game. He was even better than that. He gutted three.

a bad injury. I want to say, I thought he had like, somebody said he'd broken foot or something after this season. He was in bad shape. But my God, that first 10 weeks for Dylan Johnson. So, I mean, and Audric estimate he also had too. So like, you're looking at five top to bottom running backs that he's trotting out in the flexes every week.

And it just helped make up for the lack of sizzle out of his QB room. And when you're in a four point, five point. pass in Touchdowne League, you can just, you can take a league over with running backs. You really can. Some of these rocks, it's pretty clear. But like, you have to have one and the other with the QBs of the running backs, it seems, because J.D. had that loaded QB room with Chandler Rogers, Drake May, Straderis Sanders, like those three big boys, didn't have a high-end running back room, right?

Damien Martinez, 16 a game, fine. Look at Dallon. 19. Okay, solid. He split the West Virginia room between C.J. Johnson and Jeheme White. Savvy pickup on Jehine White. What a down the stretch poll that was because that, frankly, he just shuttled them right in.

And then Darius Taylor. Like basically, Jehine White took over when Dallie's, Darius Taylor got her. He had six games and he was out. Will Shippley, 15 and a half points per game. But there's an example of, you know, sharing with Phil Maffa. Will Shipley coming into the season, top 10 running back, you know, at least in a low end of you won, would you say, like around 10 to 15?

Yep. 15 and a half a game. Inconsistent because of Mafa stealing vulture and touches. Not perfect, you know, but good enough to get in there and get the job done. And then another one, you get to my team, which is the highest scoring in that league. Action Genty was a one-man. room. He's the only

running. He was 30 a game. He was on multiple of these teams again. And he was vital. Raymond Davis was excellent too. I had him. I had Gentie and Halani. Dude, Jimbris Dober. Okay?

Halani put up 19 a game last year at Boise. Genti put up 30. Duber is going like late teens, early 20s. He's got to be he's got to be respected in these freshman drafts because he isn't owned, you know, in a lot of places. He's going to be out there.

So that's something you have to expect, too. One guy I wanted to talk about on downside, I see Kyle Monning guy. He's got the rocket strapped to his posterior, right? Went 3-7, I think, in our latest championship league draft. It's fucking bold. This is a record right back. baby, you know? Yeah.

And he was a product of volume and he had his 1260 in terms of rushing yards, but another guy, single-digit reception. Nothing. Yeah. They just don't throw. And with a guy like Monaghan, he was good last year. He would put up 14 a game. So the problem with him is there's nothing in the past game.

And Rickers is not scoring enough. Like he can run for 1,200 darts, but if he's only going to get eight touchdowns, Like we talked about, if you aren't getting production in the past game, you have to be scoring. And unless Rutgers starts, I mean, he'll probably get some more goal lines carries this year without Gavin Wims it there. But it's still, you're really got to trust that Rutgers is going to score more this year. And it just makes it, that makes it pretty risky because you've got to have the touchdowns if you aren't getting any. production in the past game. Amen. Amen. And you look at that, like my, my room in this room that's competitive, he's RB6 on a point per game basis, and he's only a half game ahead of Jalen Wright for

Tennessee. I couldn't start Kyle Monting guy a lot of weeks because if he's playing an upper echelante, he's going to have to, he dealt with Penn State, he dealt with Ohio State. That was the other thing with him. He was getting single-digit points in those games. He was getting you like six points when they were playing Penn State. So I need to go back and look at their schedule this year. But yeah, that's. It's not as bad because they, you know, they switched up the, they don't have the risk. But it's still not great.

You still have a deal with, and you're right. I do want to look at this. You had a great room, though. Adams at UMass. Yeah. Ketran Leighton. That one hurt to the core. You know, I felt like, oh, man, you got to go down there.

But with, we're just like, oh, yeah, Monongue guy with Rutgers, their schedule, right? Not great. But, you know, they're going to be favorites in some. It could be worse. It's better than last year. I mean, they got a deal with, they got Virginia Tech non-con, not great. Get the benefit of a retooling Washington, I don't mind having. Nebraska, fine.

Wisconsin. Okay, that's, that's not great. But then UCLA, USC. That's not bad. Minnesota, Maryland, Illinois, Michigan State. Holy crap. That feels better. That feels better than last year. 55 in the country. That's better than I thought. They don't have any Michigan, Penn State or Ohio State. Yeah. They avoid all three years. Yeah, there could be some. It could be better. You know, he's got, but he's got to get the touchdown production. He's got to be in the teens. He's got to be in the teens. We just find third. round draft capital.

Yeah. And I like them. Like you watch the tape. Yeah. And he's good. Yeah. He's good. And I like to get eyes on these guys.

But we're looking at college fantasy here. Like I said, seventh in a successful room. So we'll go down again. We'll go and hit winning edge before we go and bolt out of there. But the winner again there, we went through. We had May, Aguera Vadiado, and Castiano. So, you said, a good room, but not a room he invested in. Because of Jonathan Brooks.

We know about him. Braylon Allen, DJ Giddens, Trey Benson, Devin Neal, Kyrie Robinson. Wow. I mean, dude, if you want to be winning these big industry dynasty, I mean, just looking at the big league, it's a 20-team league, that is a nightmare of a room. Yeah.

You start in all six every week, throw it. in some Montreal Johnson at 14 and a half points. It goes to show you with modern guy. 14 ain't doing it. 14 is a coin flip, you know, on a weekly basis in some of these big rooms. So, and I'll do one more because this is Bainbridge, too. We'll get him in, give him some love. Because he was number two points in that league.

He was the runner up. He had an excellent team. And, you know, he had Rogers and Salter as well, along with follower Nicolosi and yours for his QB room. So he had the top two. He had the two big boys in Rogers and Salter, which wasn't perceived to be a big two coming in. Solid, you know, buy weeks with yours and Nicolosi.

Running backs, Corum, as we discussed. But then, man, he was able to be very competitive, second in points with a legitimate G5 room outside of Corum, Ontario Brown, N IU, 16 and a half, like not killing it. Jalen Buckley.

Incredible. Incredible. Jalen Buckley, Western Michigan's 17 and a half, almost 18. And then C. Bangura, 14 points a game at Ohio, you know,

before he obviously hunts there now, but, you know, he had his time. Harrison Whaley, 14 and a half before. He got banged up and then Nathan Carter

at Michigan State, 11. Like, it isn't a big room. but it's a room that's consistent and he got that production. Like Jalen Buckley second half really helped him up big time. But not a sexy room. So there's more than one way to skin a cat. And that's why we'll get over to the wide receivers.

But we'll take a break right now, our final one. All right. Appreciate it. Getting before we go and hit the wide receivers, get over in the room like we do. Carp. appreciate you showing up buddy of course and yeah where the heck is josh i know josh is a very responsible person he has a big uh child related thing i think he is it's uh it's a t-ball or something like that uh he could you could elaborate more but being the great daddy is you know we gave him

the night off bainbridge no such luck where's bainbridge no call no show yeah he's getting married it's all good it's all good anyways uh wide receivers So we'll get into that a little bit. Again, I love the historical retrospectives and kind of just go how this position has evolved over the past few years that we can, you know, you can see where it was and where it is now. In 2018, 56 receivers, right, had 100 plus targets. It was pretty damn even split. 24 for the P5, 27 of the G5. which generally kind of surprising to see the G5 out targeting the P5 there.

But then you went to receivers in 2018 with 1,000 yards with 37 of them. That production-wise, 20P517 G5, right? So you see the skill gap. That's what really comes into play, in my opinion, is the wide receivers, is the talent, the precision on the QB side, too, just as important. Yeah. You know, it was there. But, you know, we fast forward over here, 2023, you know, we went from 56 that had 100 last year, 42.

Just five seasons, because, you know, there's no 2020. We shaved, you know, pretty significant amount of targets off there based off what we were looking at before. The distribution, fairly similar again, though, 20p5, 22G5. Now, what I also found interesting is while the targets, 100 targets plus reduced, I found interesting that in 2022, there were 80 wide receivers who got 90 plus targets, but last year, that dropped to 68 receivers with 90 plus targets. So, you know, interesting wise, you know, sharing the proportion we're looking at, it's less, you know, and you get more of those.

There just seems to be more talent, and it's being filled, especially on the G5 level, which is more and more talent. So they're able to kind of spread the ball out more thanks to the portal and starting to, you know, bringing guys who fit their system. And it's kind of suppressing the overall volume. We'll go with the thousand-yard wide receivers to, you know, another comparison, 37 and 2018. And last year, that was. 33.

So again, a little bit ticking down, ticking down. We're really a better one, you know, what I also enjoy. Wide receivers with 10 touchdowns. Okay. 2021, we had 18. 2018. We had 25. 2019.

We had 25. 2020. 13. Excuse me, 2022, 13. 2023, again, excuse me, goes up to 25. Oh, wow. We're a real outlier in 2022. So we have, we can expect, and that's a pretty good trend, because some of these are all over the board. We should be looking at 25 guys with 10 TVs or more. Okay. What an outlier in 2022. But these guys are catching balls, even though, and they're putting them in, they're cashing them in, even with that reduced targets. Keep in mind, targets went down from 53 to 42. But we went from 13, you know, receivers having 10 touchdowns, 25.

It doubled. Yeah. Very interesting. Very interesting. It's in terms of random stuff like that. Tell me just a little bit about what you look at just in terms of an overview of that position before we get in some of the specifics. Yeah. I mean, I mean, obviously the big thing is targeting.

the systems that are going to throw the ball a lot or even i think one of the things too we focus a lot on the air rate right the offenses that are going to throw the ball a lot but i think you can also find some of these teams that maybe they're they're not throwing as much it's more of a 50-50 split where they're running passing um but they really focus on one guy in that offense right where they you know you can uh really like there's just that one guy um so try and find some of those guys too where I go through a lot of my play caller data and say all right they they tart this wide receiver one has like at least a 25% target share I like to see it a little bit higher if it's not passing as much um obviously in those air raids it's closer I look at anything I start usually at 20 and then go from there so it's a lot of a lot of the volume right who's going to get the volume um in in this offense I think so for me receiver is It has the lowest hit rate in any type of league you're playing, right? Whether it's redraft, best ball, just because I think so many times, there are so many guys that we don't know right now that are going to have a really solid season.

And that's just whether it's injuries or we just have guys emerge. And one thing I was looking at, again, with just the draft, it's the receiver hit rate is, the lowest out of the top three positions there by about 5% lower. But the other thing, too, is in a dynasty, you are getting less valuable seasons out of receiver. So you're going to have to hold them longer than you would, a quarterback or a running back. So a lot of times he might be taking a young receiver and you're going to have to sit on him for longer than that one or two seasons just to get that season where he,

you can actually have them in your lineup. I think the thing that's going to change this a little bit is the portal where you're going to get, especially you're going to have those P5 guys that transfer down to a G5. They just aren't making it at an Alabama or Ohio State, right, where they're going to transfer out and maybe have a little bit more success somewhere else. But a receiver to me, it's always one of the toughest to really hit in the draft. it's a place where you can really fill out your roster through waivers in season. So I think there's definitely some opportunity there.

And really, when I look at just kind of how some of the better rosters have been in my league, it's very rarely, you'll have some guys that were drafted, but a lot of these guys were picked up in season on waivers. So to me, that's going to be kind of where you're going to find these guys. And it's a lot less – I play the systems a lot here. You know, that's what I'm looking at. Who's going to throw the ball and who's going to have a high target rate. So that's really what I'm looking at receiver-wise.

Yeah, and you make a great point of how – sure, again, with everything in these freshman drafts, you kind of look at those initial – the high-profile wide receipts. You know, you want the Luther Burdens and the Tets and those guys, even though Ted really, he wasn't that high profile, but it was different. He didn't have that kind of buzz. He was still respected, though, but we didn't know. But how many of those are there, right? And then how many of those guys get dropped if they're not immediately right out of the gate productive? You know, the C2C guys with the year one zero in terms of how it applies to the NFL level, you know what?

It doesn't hurt for the CFF level two. You're going and dropping a goose. You know, there are some exceptions. Like Noah Rogers is one who, as you mentioned, transfers from Ohio State does nothing there because it's just loaded. Goes over there to NC State. And now he's getting drafted in, you know, the seasonal leagues. So that can happen in terms of an overview, some interesting data points that I had pulled out. I haven't updated them for 2023.

I'll have that column coming out, you know, over the next few weeks and what have you. But just interesting trends of the 126,000 yard receivers with more than 60 receptions since 2018, you know, from 2018 to 2022, I don't have last year. Only 16 of them, which is 12.5% did not reach the 100 target threshold. So speaking the system, these high. volume systems are where these down the board wide receivers emerge from. And you know, you can go and this is where, again, the power three or, you know, Chris Kaye would call it the jumbo three, wide receiver three theory is. Yeah.

Coalate your assets around powerful wide receiver rooms. That is, that is a tried and true strategy because a lot of times we talked about in these good rooms, it isn't always a linear rise. It isn't always the guy, oh, we have a higher 247 rating. You know, in fact, frequently it doesn't happen that way. So that's always something to be aware of. And another thing, you know, in terms of how rare it is, you know, we get to the targets. The only player to post back-to-back seasons with 1,000 yards and 10 TDs with less than 100 targets, it's only been one. And the last eight years with CD Lamb, that's it. That's the list. Wow.

So, yeah, you might be able to get one. You're not popping too straight of sub hundred. You know, like that just doesn't happen. It's such an outlier. That's outrageous. All you have to do is BC, Lamb. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, with Jaylen Hertz throwing you and Kyloor Murray. Yeah, it would fine. Grow on trees. So, you know, we'll wrap it on the, on the wide receivers here. Let's get on to the tight ends since we're, You know, getting up there, bumping up against time. With tight ends, I, that is one of these positions. Oh, you know, you've heard with me about the Tito's, why it's so potent.

But, you know, system to. Yeah. It really, we talk about it all the time, but really is this consistency to this position that I really, I get a kick out of and that I appreciate. when it comes to what you're looking for, okay? You're looking for 50 targets, 500 yards, five touchdowns. That's like the basics right there. Okay, so 2023 will go through the numbers.

52 tight ends received 40 or more targets. That's like I look at 40 targets. I'm like, you have to get it. You have to. If you're not getting 40, what can I really do with you? Right. Because you're extrapoling that over 12 games that we're playing with, you know, in our season. 40?

Like, you're not, if you're at 48, that's for a game. Think about that. You're at three and a half. Maybe sometimes you're getting two. You're killing me with that. So that's like just right out of the gate. I need it. Last year in 2022,

they were 53 in 2023, 53, 52. So we have a nice, all right, we got a group of 50. That's a pool to start from that we can at least try to go with. The most targets last year, Dallin Holker, had a 105. It's outrageous. Number two was Justin Jolly. And now, like, sure, I'm still interested in Justin Jolly, but, bro, he's at NC State now.

Like, no more 80 targets. Yeah. Enjoy. You run a hurting team, and that's how it comes. So like, do I still, do I have a share or two with Jolly? I think I have one. But, and I like obviously, Nancy State for the, the, the Nye factor, but don't expect 80. I'm just saying, and he's going on the P5.

So, you know, tread lightly in that sense. Tight ends with 50 targets. 32 tight ends had 50 targets last year. It's going on the breakdown. Now, we talked about the P5G5 before. With the 40 targets, it's a 33 to 19 split. Okay, so, all right. You know, obviously you're going to have a little favoritism towards the P5,

but man, you get to 50 plus and you get to the rarefied air. 32 of them, 22 P5, 11G5. All right. So it's a full 2 to 1 ratio, plain and simple. Go to show you. I mean, that bears out. And when we're looking, again, you know, you want to go and project out, all right, well, what does that look like? And how does it break down in the production metric?

Tight ends last year with 400 plus receiving yards and four touchdowns. There are 19 of them. 13 and 5 was the breakdown. P5 to G5. Massive, massive difference. And we'll again. we'll go to 505. Nine tight ends,

505, 6 to 3, P5 to G5. Dallan Holker was like a unicorn. So it was R.J. Maryland. Those dudes were the dudes. But we'll go back to 2022

with that, right? Tight ends with 500 yards and five touchdowns. There was seven of them. Six P5, one. G5. And that was pre-score and I believe. It went and transferred to Ole Miss.

So, like, you came in last year, cold on the G5. We have a little bit more to kind of work with here. But, you know, that's a quick brief overview. Give me a little more on your tight end theorem, Jack. Yeah. No, that's some really interesting stuff. And you kind of see that in the drafts, you know, just these best ball drafts anyways. is you'll get the G5 guys, but there are the guys going a lot later in the drafts. Tight end is just such a, it's one of those, if you can grab one of those elite guys,

you're in a really good spot for the dynasty. I don't think it's super critical to have one of those guys. When I look at the teams that really compete year and year out, they might have a top 10 guy on on their team but it's you know they're it's more it's definitely feels like it's more crucial to have like the running backs to quarterbacks I find myself what I want to do is and I don't know if this is right or not but I just like to grab three to four guys depending on roster size three to four guys that are right kind of obviously you want to get an elite guy anytime you can but I'm also happy with those

guys in that kind of 10 to 20, 25 range where you might be doing some streaming, you're playing matchups with those guys, where, and you're also looking at guys, there are offenses that are going to throw the ball a little bit more and have shown to target that tight end. But like you just went over, those tight ends just aren't getting a ton of targets outside of those top few guys. And so the other thing you're looking at red zone targets, who is targeted? targeting tight ends in the red zone. Maybe they're not, maybe they're only going to get three to four targets a game,

but one or two of those are going to be in the red zone. So that just gives you the better opportunity for the six points. So that's something I like to try and pull out too is the red zone guys, who are the big athletic tight ends that they're going to use in the red zone. So that's one thing I look at too. I don't spend a ton of time on tight ends, though, to be honest. It's, again, I'll try and grab, you know, a handful of guys that I just feel are solid guys and then if I can get that that elite tight end I'll definitely take him but that's

kind of how I look at it I feel I feel like a lot of people have that kind of cobble it together strategy and we'll get to you know the roster specifically on that you know unfortunately we're we're bumping against the time sorry we couldn't do more on the wide receiver front I'll try to get that more on next week but just in terms of the overall again position overview another if I've been diving in on this stuff, as you can tell. Very interesting thing. Among the 505 tight ends last year, right, the nine of them, the average, actually, we'll go with 2022 first. In 2022, there were, as stated, seven, 505 tight ends.

It took them an average of 78 targets to get there. A lot of targets. That's a lot. Required to get there. Interestingly, last year of the nine, so there was two more 505 tight ends, and then, you know, so there's nine, only took 59 targets instead of 78 to get to there. Wow. There was more of them. Yeah.

So we have, and, you know, a few of those guys, quite a few of them are back. Like, we have some, we have a good tight end group this year. Mm-hmm. You know, I think that, you know, that the 50 to 60, I think you can get away with it. I think that, like, you saw quite a few with 51, you know, a couple 51, 52s. Very interesting, in my opinion, in terms of how that kind of played out. One more little metric to go. Schools.

I went back the past three years, schools who produced 505 tight ends. A couple of standout. One, Georgia, obviously. I mean, you got Brock Bowers. You're going to look good. but they also have obviously Delp in Eurosic, but maybe those guys cannibalize each other. Another one.

Jay Norval tight ends. Colorado State was last year. 2022, nobody. 2021, Nevada. Yeah. So both. And those guys, those are two guys who didn't get drafted. Holcrofted didn't get drafted.

He's not, he's not an NFL guy. And neither was the last time. I forget his name escapes me. But he had 100 targets, too. So, like, you talk about. Yeah. at Nevada? Yeah, who was it?

Cole Turner. Cole Turner. So those are the last 200 target tight ends over the past three years, too. There isn't another one. Those are the two. Yeah. Gotta. Gotta look at the eventual, like, I will be paying attention over the summer

and seeing who's replacing Darren, Dallan Holker. Everybody should. That's a big one, yeah. It's a big one. Other teams that show up twice. Memphis. Yeah. In two different ways, right?

Memphis is no joke. They come up again and again, right? I mean, their offense is so legit. They're the class of the G5. They probably should get an invite one of these years off. I mean, I just, everything they do has to be respected. And they lost priest corn. Well, whoever's next.

There you go. Yeah. Have some. Another team, Utah, Obviously. They didn't have one last year, but in 21 and 22. They're just Utah. You have to respect them. Obviously, Notre Dame, they didn't have one last year. They were, you know, because of injury, of course. And what about, I would think, so I'm just taking a guess here. What about Brian Brom, Purdue, Louisville? Was that up there? Yeah, Purdue has a season, not last year at Louisville, but 2022 Purdue. He is up there and he was in that. He was not there the year before.

Let me check for my numbers of 2021. Actually, of 2019, because we didn't have a 2020. Brian Brom was there. Yeah, Purdue was there in 2019, of course, as you're mentioning. And like you said, the thing that really got in last year is they kind of had a rotating cast. Yeah. They had two guys kind of switched on and off. out of that. So yeah, absolutely. Obviously, Andy Ludwig is, I mean, every year they're there.

Yeah. Penn State, you have a hard time because they produce the tight ends, but they produce two at a time. Yeah. They always, yeah. They split it right down the middle traditionally. I mean, you had a little more with Friamuth, of course. But I mean, otherwise, you know, they've been splitting it. Otherwise, I thought it was interesting. Cincinnati, Denbrock as an OCE Tuesday. a couple times in 2019 and now is he I believe he's still is he still at LSU I forget Jesus that was interesting Iowa State makes a couple appearances yeah Tom getting uses the tight end okay it's it's how it is obviously you know last I don't think they hit it last year but they were close like yeah I think they have a damn good shot this year because he got years with Brommer yeah with Brommer with Big Bad Ben Brommer

Yeah. So, you know, those are just a few for talking system-wise. And toss in, tossing Ole Miss for Charlie Weiss because they had a big one on. Charlie Weiss had a couple here and there, especially at FAU, obviously. They had the other Turner. Oh, the other Hayden. I don't know. There's two of them.

Hayden Hurst? Hayden Hurst. That was him, right? Yeah. So that's it. Anything you want to say to tie up the time? No, I think he covered it well. You know, Dynasty, it's one of the, it's fun.

I love Dynasty and it's trying to figure out how to piece the roster together just as a whole. It's always, it's my favorite type of league to be in. I'm still, I've done it since, I think my first year I did it was 2018. And I still feel like I'm, you know, like every year it's evolving just with all the changes with the portal and everything. So it's, it stays pretty fresh. And it's just a fun, fun format to really participate in. A couple things to put it out just to wrap up tight ends. I have these little stats.

In 2018, 37 tight ends received 40 targets. As discussed, that was 52 last year. So that's a 43% increase. Not bad. Not bad. We'll take that obviously. I like it. All right.

Well, I appreciate you here, Zach. The first duo, I think. Yeah. When we had, we did. I hope we rolled through it. rather effectively, you know, we try to get all your stuff in. I appreciate it. And thanks to everybody for listening. I will, like I said, I'm working on those columns. So I'll have, these are little tidbits I have from them. They will be coming out over the course of the next

few weeks. They will be on fan tracks. I'll put on my college fantasy stuff on fan tracks, just so everybody knows for this summer. I'll be transitioning back over to NBC Sports after we hit the season. But, you know, for CFF, I am putting that all out there. I want to spearhead that charge and make sure that I put my best work out there so that everybody who's joining, who's playing CFF, can have those resources all right there where you're going to play. It's a very important thing for me, so I'm really excited about it. Thanks to all who listen. Karp, again, appreciate it. Clint Carlson's in there, too. Let me give it up for Clint Carlson obviously Jacko, Steve Jacko, Jackson.

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