Fantasy Football Daily - College Fantasy Football Group of Five Only Draft

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

It’s Draft Preview month for College Fantasy Football All-Access in July. We are diving into a current Group of Five-only draft we are participating in. We will dive into our general thoughts, G5-specific strategies, and edges to exploit with this player pool. Join us each week and take your game to the next level with CFF All-Access. Make sure to follow us for more valuable college fantasy football content! College Fantasy Football Full Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list... Subscribe to FantasyPoints for FREE - https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/ Where to find us: https://twitter.com/CFFguys https://twitter.com/CFFroton https://twitter.com/CFFChamps http://twitter.com/MBainbridgeCFF FantasyPoints Website - https://www.fantasypoints.com NEW! Data Suite - https://data.fantasypoints.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FantasyPts Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What? What? Why are you shaking your head? You're welcome. Hello, this is the CFF All Access podcast, and as a special treat, we have a full boat today, don't we? All four of us. I'd expect to see you Bainbridge, Frank. Why not?

Why wouldn't I be here? Honeymoons in two weeks. I'll be here. I'll be here. That was two weeks. Fair enough. Well, coming off of a big 4th of July weekend, I hope we're. all rested, much like our president, you know, rested, ready to go, ready to make the tour

right now, looking vibrant, looking spry as only we can, the CFF All Access podcast. How was your Fourth of July, guys? I was good, man. I just spent the time in a pool hanging out with friends, drinking a little beer, so I can't complain at all. Bruno? Bruno is good. Yeah, we played some lawn games, which was fun. Probably shouldn't admit this on the podcast, but Amy had to drive me home that night.

Oh, I like it. I like it, Cambridge. You know, don't want to Ali Gordon anything. But, yeah, so it was a good for it, though. I will say, you know, the listeners should know, Michael Bainbridge, big electronica guy, big electronica guy. He doesn't look like it. He looks, exactly. He looks like a human bulldog, just like.

his dog Bruno, the big old English bulldog, but when the music gets bumping, Bainbridge gets after it. After it. Like, I don't have that juice anymore at the concerts. I just want to sit down and bump my head and tap my knee a little bit, you know, go along with the room. No, no, not Bambridge. Bambridge is locked and loaded, and so is the CFF All Access podcast here. As we discussed last week, we have the P4.

I always want to say five. Recondition myself. I caught myself. P4 and G5 drafts. And since the G5 is just, my gosh, what a spectacle this is. 16 teams, P5 only, G5 only. This is as deep as it gets until we start dipping into the 50 team pool, which, I mean, frankly, you could even say in some ways it's deeper

because we do have two quarterbacks we're starting. be 32 teams obviously put out. So, you know, with a 50 teamer, you can only start one quarterback per week due to by weeks, but we are really stretching it thin here on the quarterback front. And I think, you know, we have quite a few thoughts to go through with the G5. Josh, where would you like to start with this when it comes to our draft month coverage with the G5 only? 16 team, six point passing touchdowns.

we wouldn't have it any other way. There you go. I mean, I think that's the main place to start, right, with the details of the league. Like you said, 16 managers, 6-point passing TD, full PPR, 30 rounds. And we decided to start with the easiest one, talking about the G5. Oh, the easiest one. Yeah, yeah, the easiest one. Which, you know, I just want to hear just general thoughts from you all on this draft so far. We're about halfway through, right? 15 rounds of the 30.

We got the board up here, at least the first 10. rounds or so. And so, yeah, general thoughts, again, halfway through. What are you guys thinking so far? We should have gone with one quarterback to start. Not due to the bottom of the barrel. We're drafting, you know, handcuffs at this point. We're drafting UCon and UMass quarterbacks. Like, there wasn't a quarterback drafted in all of round four. Like at the end of round three, basically half of the, you know, G-Pipe starters were already scooped. moved up at that point. So, yeah, but at this point, what are we? Round 14, 15. We are, this is pure degenerates at this point. Yeah, round 15, pure degenerates. My God, somebody's

going to draft a player at this point that I've never heard of. Probably you guys haven't heard of. That's just the, how it is at this point in the draft. Well, I have heard of Tyson Fomachon, and he just was the last quarterback taken at 15-8. And when Tyson PhomaCon, UMass's own, as you know, I'm a UMass grad, when he's getting taken, we're getting deep here. And frankly, I don't know where we go from here other than just start sniping backups. I mean, I'm on, I just drafted the RB3 for Boise State in like around 15 because I'm like, hey, you never know.

He might pop off if you guys get hurt in front of them. Yeah, that's where we're kind of at here. Zach, you always have words of wisdom here. What kind of general thought so far on the draft? I'm still, so I echo what these guys said. The quarterback has been tough, and Bainbridge really kind of hurt me when he took Dexter Williams. I was hoping he was going to come back because I, I was to the point where buy weeks,

I kind of ran into some by week trouble here. I wasn't paying attention too early. And I think it gets pretty tough in these G5, because it seems like everybody's on like six and 10. There's so many six and 10 week buys. And, yeah, I mean, it's just been, you know, there's starting to get to some of these depth charts. And I'm taking a shot on wide receiver three,

just because, or I took Talik Williams at Georgia State. I don't think that offense is going to be great, but I have him as their top receiver this year. So maybe he gets me a couple good weeks, but that's kind of where we're at in this draft. You're just hoping that some of these guys will go off for one or two weeks throughout the season. And hopefully it's not all the same week. You get them kind of spread out through the year. Yeah, you start playing the bi-week game with the quarterbacks. in all, you know, in full 134 FBS, you know, best ball leagues.

But is it just me or does every single G5 quarterback seemingly have a week six buy? Like, it's just insane how many do. And you're just scraping the bottle of the barrel at this point. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to get depth behind them because we can roster seven quarterbacks out of the 30. and a lot of the host maybe round six, you know, I think rounds, when you start getting past that, you're taking shots at contested rooms in high volume offenses.

So when you're doing that, you might toss a blank out there, and you have to make up for it on the back end. And if you don't, if you miss on one of those top TVs you're going for, that's going to be a major problem down the line because it's 16. If you start falling behind it, you get out of the gate, it's hard to make up that ground. Yeah, 100%. And, you know, I think, for a time, you said at best in the intro to our CFF preseason guide at fantasy points, but we are the sickest of the sick because I'm not going to lie.

I'm kind of excited for tonight's show just to talk about, I mean, I think there's some real strategy here and I have no idea if it's going to be the right strategy. But I think there's things, like plenty of things to talk about in this draft. and I'm super excited to get into them. But before we do, we're going to take a quick break here, and then we'll get right back. And I got a question for all of you guys. When you're flying Emirates business class, dining on a world-class menu at 40,000 feet, you'll see that your vacation isn't really over until your flight is over.

Fly Emirates, fly better. All right. So, you know, I think it's pretty obvious that in this G5, draft that the player pool is absolutely depleted it's after i think for a time you just said it after like round five or six like you're basically dipping from like the seventh or eighth round adp for players in a normal draft to like round 20 almost like immediately so you can see the drop off here but kind of generally speaking why do you guys think the player pool is so depleted among group of five teams because this seems like more than than normal um this year or you know in the last year so

What do you guys think? What are some of the reasons you guys think for this depleted player pool? I'll start. I mean, I think that one's the easiest. I just conference realignment has to be the obvious answer in my opinion, right? No more UCF. No more Houston. I know there's a couple of years ago now. SMU. And those teams, the three that I just rattled off are just, they used to be these. There still are, right? But they just used to dominate offensively, especially when they were in the, you know, the American conference and what have you. So, you know, the transfer portal plays a part, but I think conference realignment is, is probably the biggest reason why this

pool is so depleted as you, as you stated. Yeah, you're bringing in Sam Houston State, Kennesaw. It's just not the same. But that being said, you also got James Madison who came in and obviously made quite an impression in terms of the college fantasy realm. And, but, you know, but, you yeah, I agree. The transfer portal too, there's just so much turnover at the G5 level in general. Now, you don't know who's going to stay here from year to year. Getting guys like Tori Horton sticking around is a wonderful little bonus. You don't expect it, but when that happens, you just take it and tip your cap and say thank you. But that's increasingly more rare. We did get, you know, Washington State and Oregon State come down that helped the pool up.

a little bit to try to offset some of that. But I mean, like you're saying, Bainbridge, Cincinnati gone to. Not Cincinnati was, Desmond Ritter had some years for us there. And obviously, you know, the running back position as well. But, yeah, I think those two factors are certainly in line and just the natural turnover. Yeah, not to mention this year when you get Washington State and Oregon State in complete transition, right? Oregon State really doesn't have anybody that's getting drafted in a standard bestball league in, you know, Washington State. There's questions everywhere, too.

Who knows if it's even as good it has been years past. So this year specifically makes it really tough. And there's always turn over in the P4, too. Don't get me wrong. But we have, you know, at those levels, the recruiting is so much more clean. And we, there's a succession plan that a lot of times you can point to and say, all right, well, this is a. a linear upward movement through the depth chart and this highly touted guy came. You check the reports.

As we've stated before many times in this podcast, you just get more information out of the P4 schools, more people are paying attention. So there's more coverage of them. And it can be really difficult. I mean, that's why guys like, you know, Justice and Luke Probasco, you have to give those guys credit. I mean, those G5-5 videos are probably as good as you get in a lot of ways. And they're asking stuff that we care about. I mean, that's really just a resource that we didn't have before that certainly helps in terms of how we stack these debt charts.

And frankly, for some of the guys down the board that we're going to be taken, and we've got half the draft left, and it's already brutal. Like Mike said, he just took a third running back. And we said, we saw Jayvon Ducker, Memphis, J.D. Sutton Smith and Jvon Ducker went two out of three spots. And there goes Caden Velt Camp. Damn it. I was hoping to take Caden Bell Camp. Thanks, Moxley. But yeah, that's where we're at. We're literally taking third running backs right now in prolific rooms with Gaines and Ducker. Yeah, no, that's all good stuff. I think, too, one thing that hurts us a little bit

as well is familiarity with some of these coaching staffs, right? We lose a lot of the good G5 coaches to power four schools. We get in And, you know, like I think about Western Kentucky, where we've been able to rely on that offense the last few years. And do we really have a great feel for what we're going to get from that offense this year, right? So that's one team where you could typically have that quarterback receiver combo, the tight end when, you know, when his name is escaping me. Dalvin Smith, you know, was tight and eligible. So you have value there, but it's like, what are we going to get with them? even like a San Jose state, right?

You just kind of get in like the old Navy coach is headed there. We think it's going to be a different offense, but we just don't know. And we get that a lot with a lot of these G5 schools where they're bringing in some of these coaches where they're coming from an FCS, how are they going to translate to the G5? What's that offense really going to look like?

So I think that for me is a little bit of it as well. we just, you know, we have to guess on a lot of these guys. And we've talked about it before, next man up. It's so hard to know on some of these schools who the next man up is. And it just makes it, like, we know there's guys in this draft that are going to go off this year. A lot of times in the seasons, the guys that are the waiver wire winners come from the G5, that we just aren't on anybody's radar. So there are going to be guys.

It's just we don't know that yet. and just trying to take a shot on a lot of these guys. And that's also for me, one of the toughest is we think we might know who that next man up is, but there's always surprises at this level. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy to me how many, if you even look at the first round picks, how many of them either entered the transfer portal or there's like strong rumors of them entering or they did enter and they transferred down to the FCS and that's why they have value. I mean, the transfer portal has just made this, like, totally crazy in my eyes.

And so, hey, my next question for you guys is, which position group for you guys is the most depleted in the G5, like in this draft? And here, Zach, we'll go back to you on this one and let you kind of answer this first. But which position for you is the most depleted? Yeah, I think it's for G5 is QB for sure. going into the draft, I don't know if I really felt that way, but I was glad I took Caden's altar because it dried up so fast. And when it got down to my second QB, I actually waited until round seven just because

I didn't love a lot of the options and they all kind of fell in the same tier for me. Like I could wait a couple rounds and I might not get the, you know, gabbert, but is he really going to be that different than, you know, I took McCown on it from UTSA, and maybe there is a gap there. But right now, I just, I don't see a big one. So, but it just, that dried up so fast. And even when you're looking at some of the guys that went in round three, I mean, it's like, we still don't know, E.J. Warner, maybe he's going to have a good year,

but maybe not, right? Maybe he's going to fall. Vasco, you know, he's a guy that just like, it seems like the ceiling could be high, but he could flop. Like there's just so many unknowns when we're going to like that QB too. So that to me it's QB by far. And surprised, I actually think receiver is probably the easiest to draft here. I know that wasn't the question.

But even, you know, when you're getting into round 10, it was still just like, I almost was like, I'm just going to wait on receiver because there's still a whole bunch of guys. And I don't feel confident in QB and getting to the bottom of the barrel with running back. right around round 10 for me. Yeah, yeah, drafting here. So I drafted number five here and I picked Tori Horton with the fifth pick. And immediately I regret it. It was like the first time I drafted for the entire year and I picked Caden Salter with 1.3.

And I was like, oh, I think I'd rather have any other player than a quarterback at that point. And I thought that way about Tori Horton because I'm like, man, like, yeah, great player. But at the same time, I'm with you. I think there's a much more depth. Like a Seth Hinnigan, who I would never think about driving until like round eight or 10 is like gold, right? And he went to Jared at 1.8. So anyways, I'm with you. Like, I think quarterbacks are pretty tough.

But Proton, what you got? Dissing Hennigan in a six point passing touchdown league? That's what we're doing now, Josh. We're dissing Seth Hennigan? Okay. All right, buddy. I'm not dissing them. I'm saying I should have taken them.

I don't. You wouldn't take them before round eight? And it's a six point. In his six point, I see what you mean, yes. Yeah, and a four point is what I'm mostly drafting in. So I totally agree. It should be banished to the bottom of the ocean. We don't need to get in that conversation.

All right, all right, right. Fine. Yeah, I have to concur with Zach. It's quarterback. You have to have a consistent one-two punch at the very least because you don't know what you're going to get in the back end. And you have to invest it running back too. You can't ignore running back.

I do agree with wide receivers with Zach saying that they're just more plentiful. Because naturally, a lot of these, you got three of them out every single down. You know, you got one running back who can carry. Well, you can get any of three receivers who can catch passes. And that really catches up, I think, in these teens. where there's still some very credible wide receiver options that I'm looking at. And I'm saying, all right, well, I know that I can look in and say, this guy's got a shot to be productive.

I don't feel that way about the running back group right now. And Bainbridge actually just took Robert Briggs, who I'm telling you, I was right about to take him. Vel-Camp and Briggs were bang, bang, the two top guys on my cue. What a great high-end shot Caden Vel-Camp is right now. in case he does take that job where Finley gets heard. You have a potential league winner right there. That's a great pick by Moxley.

And Briggs and Feshul, over there, Faison, excuse me, Rasul Fashon, that weird name, are in that sort of a, you know, a tandem. I took Faison and was looking to kind of lock that up with Briggs. He kept me from that.

So we're in the Keep Your House in Order. Basset of the running back rooms. The high-end backups were in round 14 is when they started going. Anderson Castle went 14-3. That's where they started going right now. And now it's every man for himself. Batting down the hatches on your running back room. Which I love that, Proton.

I love that. Like we're getting sniped in the 15th round on like third and second string backups. What are we going to do? Again, that's what makes us the sickest of a sit, right? That's how we do it. And Karp deserves a little respect here to. Carp's in this draft. Just cranking out there in the comment section. Bless your sweetheart.

And thank you again, Felix. Hey, gentlemen, and Froton? And Froton? Okay. All right. All right, Felix. I'm not going to challenge you to a race. I'm not going to be foolish like Austin was at the last expo.

But, man, if you want to come up and face me on the wiffle ball diamond, because I will be out slinging plastic, I'll be slinging the whipple ball. I will embarrass you with the bat and the ball in the hand. So if you want that, Felix, we can have it. In all good fun. I love that. I love that.

Gentleman and throw time. Bainbridge, you have another position other than quarterback that you'd like to talk about as depleted? I was going to say running back. I think after round seven is when we truly just started drafting back. ups at that point or even if there were a starter, very low end starter, in my opinion. So running back was pretty shallow to me. And I think it was just like we're in round 15 of 30 right now. And I looked at, I'm not one that sets my cue fully. But I look at my cue right now and there's two quarterbacks, 10 wide receivers and zero running backs right now. And I think that speaks also

to the lack of depth at running back too when you're looking at the G5. So. Yep. Yeah, totally. One of the positions that I looked at quite a bit here as depleted, and it's always depleted, right? But tight ends, like, they are brutal from the G5 perspective. I mean, you have like Harold Fanon. And that's pretty much it. And right there, everybody else is like, it's Harold Fanon and then literally around 20 plus tight ends that go after that because we don't have Darwin Smith or Holden Willis and this one. one that are that are tied in eligible. So just really funny there. Okay, let's switch over to strategy a little bit. And I want to ask you guys, you know, as you've looked at this draft or followed along, we're all in this, which team has had the best strategy so far? Not necessarily the best roster, right? So I'm not going for that, but I'm going like, you know, they're picking the right positions and the right places. Like, who do you like there? And then what do you like about their strategy? Let's start.

with Froton. I start with you on this one. All right. I've been kicking this around. And I got to say, I think I kind of like what Bain we're just doing. I mean, I hate to tell him that. I hate my strategy. I don't know. I think it's all right. I think, frankly, I wanted Zevi Eckhaus. I think that could be a steal. He's listed in Phil Steele as being the number one. I mean, maybe he wins, maybe doesn't. But I mean, to coming out of spring to get that nod. Josh took Mateer at 212. You got Echoes at 8.4.

Yeah. Give me heavy Eckhouse. And then you went and got Dexter Williams at 124 as, as Zach mentioned, you know, who had just taken Jamie French, J.C. French, excuse me. That's a, I mean, if that's where I want to be taking shots, I don't have a lot of faith in Gavani and McCoy. But you were able to get Broden Grohan is a very. important piece in this format for Rice. I mean, he's an excellent tight end who's worthy to be drafted in full FBS leagues and get him in the fifth round is kind of a big hammer to go with Wilson and Atkins, two very dependable slot receivers. And I have a wide receiver column that's going out. I've

been putting some time in on this. And if there's anything, you know, you look at the current rankings for wide receivers and how those shake out. And you're seeing a lot more slot receivers in the top 20 this year. 12 of the top 20 receivers currently in ADP for fan tracks are slot receivers. And that is something that's kind of a departure from previous years. You see Wilson, you see Atkins, both of those guys should get ample targets. And then you just went on to get, like you said, the running backs and the quarterbacks just just pounding them and i think that's the way you have to approach us land and ransom gets geltz excuse me at in nine 13 was a really nice deal i think that round nine and ten pocket round nine was a good wide receiver round freeman goffney land insides Travis rudolph

chase sole i do like write a little more than soul but he's still there ransom metcalf and micah davis Like that ninth round was and two, the eighth round too, you get Hudson, Ward and Dalen Cobb taken. That's a really nice run where you could address the other positions in those first seven rounds and then just, just hit some talented wide receiver two types, frankly. Yeah. Yeah, I think too what I like about Bainbridge is he seemed to target and you can correct me if I'm wrong here since you're here. here Bainbridge but uh you know I like that you targeted systems it seems like so yeah L camp and the fourth round is actually Marquez cooper that's right Bainbridge um but you know you targeted systems here like Robert Henry at UTSA if he's the guy or somebody gets injured

like he's going to have an awesome workload there Ziva Eckhouse right and then dexter Williams I mean all these guys are just high ceiling guys and in best balls that's what you want, right? Like, maybe they're not the starters, so they're risky, but like, it doesn't matter if you finish in 12th or fourth, like, you finish out of the money in either of those positions. So I think high ceiling shots here. And if I had to give one more here, I think I kind of like volume pigs in terms of, like I said, his focus and what he's, you know, how he approached his draft. Mackay Hughes, fine in the first round. Comes back. and gets Jared Zeno 210, that's a great deal for Zeno, frankly.

You know, if we're looking at some of the most potential high potency quarterbacks at the G5 level, I think he's right there. And as I alluded to, I've been doing a little bit of, you know, work and grinding on the passing attacks. You know, the wide receivers often go hand in hand with, obviously quarterback production. and if you look at 35 pass attempts, 35 point per game offenses, and that's something that those are the offenses you want to be targeting,

putting the ball in the air, converting, right? And I go through that. If you look at UAB last year, they're in the 35-35 club, you know, and there were only 16 teams last year that were in the 35.35.35. pass attempt range. Having a potent G5 offense year two of Dilfer, you know that they want to throw, that's a powerful, powerful quarterback. And I think he just got, it's such a reasonable deal at that 210, allows him to then come back and hit Richard Hunt, Javon Jackson, you know, going boom, boom with those two, getting three solid workhorse running backs.

ideally with Hunt, we'll see what happens with Tyas. And then comes back and grabs Bert Emanuel, who, I mean, I took Joey Leibas, former Iowa QB, but, you know, Emmanuel, if he has the job, he might as well swing and miss. Giant upside. A giant upside in the fifth round for Emmanuel. And like we said, once you got past the sixth, goodbye to dependable QBs. You know, maybe could have gone with a Dylan Morris or a gabber.

who's more safe or a P-Truss, but, you know, you're swinging for the fences. And then he pivots to Kane Wulmac, McMillan, Omari Hayes, three bang, bang, bang, wide receivers that are not guys who are even getting drafted in the regular P-5 drafts at the end of them, you know, of these best balls at the end. But really talented, projectable G5 wide receivers that you wouldn't think about, um, in. in larger formats that are good, solid, week-in-week-in-week-out, dependable contributors for their teams and wide-receiver wants. And that's really what you have to kind of go for. So I like at least the approach because then he went and pivoted Jenkins, Frank Peasant, who, you know, whosoever's in there, and getting Tulsa, who has the 134 schedule, according to Zach Hall, with Francis and taking a stab in that room.

So just going after the QBs, going after the running backs after that, and now he'll pivot to the wide receivers who we talked about. Here we are in round 16. Pretty good wide outs out there. And he's going to go on a domino. It's going to take probably three or four of them in a row. And I think he's going to be in really good shape. So those would be two builds, you know, with somewhat different.

But those are two that stuck out. Yeah, I like that a lot. Hey, I want to hear from both Mike and Zach on this. Mike, we'll go with you first. But before we get to you, Mike, we're going to take a quick break here. All right, real quick, before we get to Mike, I want to throw up this comment here by Ben. Ben said, it's July 8th, and we're talking about CFF, amazing how far it's come. I remember when you got no info in the offseason.

And, man, it has been so much fun to see, even today, like, PFF, college, like, tweeting out, like if there was college fantasy football, who'd you take 1.1 and seen all the responses to that. And man, it does feel like the tide is shifting potentially with CFF. You got, you know. They really say if it, if there was or if in college fantasy, why did they freeze that? God, that's, that's brutal. There, it was something like that. Yeah.

If there was. Yeah, well, there is, folks. They know that there is. I guarantee you. They know that there is. And I found it funny. And it's, PFF and,

you know, some other bigger sites. I always love how they just kind of dabble with their, their tweets and stuff. I know you guys know that it's out there. Why don't you fully go all in with it? It just, that was just by thought when I saw that tweet.

Because then, then we'd ask those guys to be in these leagues and we'd smoke them. Yeah. And, hey, and Carp here's guy, he's had two SX, uh, serious X,

Sim Fantasy Radio fellas at least say they would include CFF and broadcast someday also. So, hey, we're growing, man. So it's fun. It's fun to see all this. Hey, get bigger. I will be pitching a hell of a lot of CFF in two weeks when I'm on a red eye with Scott Fish and Jeff Radcliffe, Jeff Radcliffe, who hosts one of the series shows. I will be up in his ear because he'll be doing the Scott Fishville, L.A. to Boston Two-Step on a

on a red eye. So I will be pulling the ear of many different pro football people, obviously. And then it would be the Fantasy Sports Game Association conference. So I will be pushing it early and often for the next month and a half. Full speed ahead, everybody, on the CFF front. And C2C, too. It's all the same. C2C is CFF. So it's the same thing. I love them both. And C2C kind of helps to to bridge the pro gap because you can kind of feed them the pro side of things a little bit. I love that. I love that. We're currently talking about growing the CFF game that we love.

And we're talking about. With Ben. Go ahead. Phil Steel Magazine was the Bible? Oh, brother, what do you think is on my lap right now? What do you think is on my left? Come on now. I make sure I got my Phil Steele right here.

Right here, just in case I need it. It's here. It's back. I missed my Phil Steele. I'm always going to look at. In fact, here's a whole list of, here's a stack. This is all Phil Steel magazine, dating back to 2006 is the earliest one I have. So good call on that, Ben.

Absolutely, my friend. All right. Mike, let's hear from you, man. The team that you liked their strategy the best so far. Well, we're kind of on topic. Carp, I think from a strategy, standpoint, I think has a really solid team. And we talked about it first.

And he's at the back end of this draft, too, pick 115. Just getting two quarterbacks, you know, within the top three rounds. And I actually love his quarterback room. I think it's the best quarterback room of the entire draft, like in its totality, right? Because you've got four potential dual threat quarterbacks there. You know, a couple of them are in quarterback battles, you know, Ty Thompson probably wins a job.

Chase Bauer probably wins a job, not solidified at this point, but both dual threat quarterbacks that, you know, playing decent systems there. But I kind of just like the way he built his lineup, his roster, hitting the quarterbacks kind of early,

getting a potential workhorse in the second round there in Madi. And then, I mean, look at his, you know, he spoke about the depth of wide receiver within the G5 you getting Derwin Burgess and Mario Williams in the fourth and fifth round as your starters. Yeah.

I love that. Like those first five rounds, I think, really built that roster very strongly. I have a couple of critiques with some of the other picks, and I'll talk about his round six pick later. But just from a build standpoint, I really like what he did. And then Zach, I think, has maybe the most complete team.

I don't think he missed on any of his picks. I think it's just rock solid from top to bottom. Yeah, that's really good. What is it about Zach's strategy that you liked, Mike? I mean, as you look at it, is it just that he just picked best available player and he nailed that? That's what Zach does, is let the board fall to him, pick best available player. And I think just from a complete totality build standpoint of like you got two solid wide receivers, you got the, I mean, you know, it was a randomized draft order. You kind of lucked into the one-two pick.

But, you know, getting K-9 Salter and then, you know, just solid running back, solid receivers. There's no, there's no, you know, every pick is just solid. So I like the way he built it. Yeah. Great. Love that. All right, Zach, speaking of Zach, you like the best? Yeah.

One draft I liked, I wouldn't have, I would have changed the first pick. But kind of on the first really six picks, Justice, I kind of like where he went with this. I would have taken Brown over McLeod. But I think he got McLeod and Gleason, which, again, we've talked about the quarterback depth. And I think I'm pretty high on Gleason this year. So I really like those two quarterbacks. I think they're going to be high-volume guys. And then we talked about running back.

And Buckley, you know, for the G-5, that's a pretty solid pick there. He's, you know, he's the guy. He's the running back in that offense. so he's going to get the volume there. And then Watkins, who he hasn't been going super high at all in any of our drafts. I think you can usually get him like around 25 or later. But when you look at how he ended the year last year, I think he had three of his last four games. He was over 100 yards.

So in a draft like this, you know, you get a guy that can do that multiple times. I think that's a pretty solid pick. We don't know for sure if Meredith is going to be the guy at Washington State. but if he's that slot guy, I mean, that could be a super valuable, super value right there. And then Nash, you know, I kind of mentioned it earlier, your San Jose State. I don't really know exactly what to expect with that offense, but spread and tread, I believe is what they call it. They're going to throw that ball a little bit. I think Nash is probably that wide receiver one.

So I think that could be a really good volume play there. So really the first six picks, again, I would have taken Brown over McLeod, but just the way. way he built that he got i think he got two running backs that are going to get some volume two good quarterbacks and then some receivers that could really pan out so i liked what he did with the first six there yeah that's really good i like that all right i want to switch gears now for you guys and talk about your teams and your strategy and so kind of going into this what were you guys i mean did you even know what you're getting yourselves into and if so what was the strategy going into this mike we'll start with you um talking about your team and your strategy and your strategy and your

strategy in this draft so far. Yeah, well, I was going to say I had the pleasure of joining, chasing the Natty in the G5 live stream the week prior to this draft. And so I, it was, you know, not 16 teams. It was 12 teams, but we went 30 rounds deep. So I kind of knew what to expect. And I still didn't follow what I should have done, which is draft a quarterback early. I knew that these quarterbacks were going to get scooped up and then I waited until round six. But, you know, is that kind of mention it too? It's like you get to a point, and I was at 113 in the draft, and it's like, okay, Joey Aguilar just because, you know, the quarterback depth is short, or do I grab a top 10 running back in Mario Anderson, according to me at least, and some others? So, you know, in the end, it could very well be a mistake that I waited on quarterback again.

But I kind of like what I did, you know, just kind of grabbing best available player, you know, top 10 running back in the first round of Mario Anderson. I think two potential top 10 receivers in Cole Wilson and Sean Atkins, you know, debatable with who the Texas State Wide Receiver 1 potentially is. So and then from there, it's just, you know, it got to a point, like I said, you know, do I draft a Marquez Cooper in the fourth round or do I draft a Brett Gap? right you know so just trying to draft festival the player and then um you know eric kind of mentioned it earlier with my quarterbacks you know it's looking scarce right giovanni mccoy uh max brown is my starters but you know i tried to get those and i apologize to you zach and josh for for sniping you with ex house and dexter williams but you know you kind of have to draft those high upside guys in order to win a 16 team best ball draft like this.

So, you know, I didn't follow what you should have done in draft QBs early, but we'll see if it works out. Yeah. Mike, one of the tricky things to do with this draft, I don't know if this is tricky for you, but like, fan tracks is going through a bit of a turnover in their player pool. And so there are players that just aren't in the pool that used to be. So, Chena Morris is one of them. Marcos Cooper is another one, right, as they get the rosters, correct.

But it's a little bit tricky trying to figure out who's still in the play. So like the Zevite Eckhouse, like, you know, looking them up, I was like, did he get taken? Did he not get taken? And so that's been a little bit tricky in this draft of figuring out, like, all right, am I going to go through every single player that's been picked already to figure that out? I don't know if I had struggled with that at all. I could have taken Marquez Cooper. If I had thought of it, I would have taken him over. Jarquez Stewart, I would take him

Marquez, but he wasn't in the player pool. And Bainbridge gets a deal out of it. I was like, oh, man, come on Marcus Cooper. Well, I would say if you have the hand-and-danny fantasy points projections or the CFF site draft guide, you would know that Marquez Cooper was available. I know. A little promotional deal right there.

I had him ranked. I just didn't see him in the pool. But you're right. That's funny. as Shane wants to know Mike did you wait until round 15 before you drafted a QB again looking at your man I waited until round 15 in Jared's draft I didn't think I waited that long no I drafted Charlotte quarterback next round in the sixth round oh okay okay he was referring to the last draft that you're in with with Jared is that what happened yeah I I punted

QB again in that draft. I don't think I waited until round 15 though. Okay. Okay. Well, sweet. Hey, Frotan, why don't you take us through your strategy and walk us through your draft a little bit? Yeah, so top end, I add the number 16 pick. So, which is, which is brutal because you're sitting and I'm just watching all these guys go off the board and I'm just, you know, like, oh, there goes Salter, there goes McLeod, there goes Byron Brown, there goes hand again, like, kill me. Just kill me. So I'm there and I'm like, all right, Jalen Royals is still there. Do I want to get, you know, have a team with a good solid base of running backs? Yeah, I mean, I want to do that.

But getting Jalen Royals at the top just allows me to be able to go heavy running back for that middle to early portion of my draft and then still be able to make up for it on the other side. because I have an ace wide receiver in Royals. And then you have to take a wide receiver. Actually, you have to take a quarterback. So I went with Matthew Sluka for UNLV for that dual threat profile in the go-go offense. Hey, you got to take a swing. Certainly the next two, like I said, Zeno and Vatiato, I considered both of them. Without a doubt, I just felt, you know, the go-go offense a little more projectable.

But Zeno could have very well been taken there. I didn't want to go mature, no offense, Josh, just because of the Eckhouse factor, which here we are. And then from there, have to wait all the way on the way back. And, you know, as many have heard, AJ Duffy, here we are. You got to shoot for upside. And here we are. It's San Diego State. The Aztec fast offense should be quite a, they're going to at least run fast.

They're going to at least try to score points in a. middling Mountain West Conference. So I went and just held my nose and went for it. Jarrez Stewart on the other side as we talked about for Toledo. I'm a big fan of Stewart this year. I think he takes over that Penny Boone role as he kind of had a substantial role last year. But Toledo's offense is just the class of that Mac. And then Easton Messer and Frank Brock Messer,

not really somebody I'm thrilled about. I was actually in the middle of, I was at Mission Bay in San Diego on the 4th of July when this pick came up, and I was on a boat, and I couldn't get service. I could not get service for this. So I hadn't had my queue completely ordered,

and Easton Messer was the top. Was able to get pretty broccoli back, had 200. Yeah, I'm fine with it. But I mean, gosh, end of round five. God, there wasn't a lot left. Brock, Freddie Brock for Georgia State. And here's where the, I kind of tried to attack running backs and QBs,

because I only took one wide receiver out of the next eight picks after Messer. You know, it goes Brock, Floyd Chalk for San Jose State. You know, Chuck had over 200 yards in the bowl game. Brock did, excuse me, Brock and Chuck. Look at that. Look at that. Parker Navarro for Ohio, I think he stepped right into that. The Curtis Rourke role.

Micah Davis, I know Freeman went before him, but I am a big Micah Davis fan. Liked him back at BYU. I feel like if he could have got more of an opportunity, he had a skill set to succeed. I'm thrilled about his potential. There'll be three of them out there every, every snap. I've got Davis and Royals, so I'm trying to attack that high volume offense. As we discussed, face on Utah State, and then Christianville, U for Georgia State, taken over for Danny Granger.

I think he gets that job. We shall see. I mean, he should get it. He's a P4 transferred down. Jordan Simmons for Akron. I think Akron will finally be a little bit better this year after they dealt with a ton of injuries for Moorhead, and he's the nominal guy. And then the Leibos, Dexter Mims connection, Dexter Mims for Eastern Michigan, just a heavy Mac flavoring of my running back room for what a reason that might be.

And I'm going with Leibos because I just do not believe in Bert Emanuel's ability to throw a forward pass. And this is where you have to start going in and taking shots behind other people's room, as we discussed. Yeah, I like that a lot. And, you know, there's a question by Shane here. Are we worried about Royals with a new coach taking over now? So you picked both Micah Davis and Royals. And so is there any concern for you with? Well, they're keeping the offensive coordinator in place.

All that's going to be the same. So I would think schematically it's the same deal. They've already gone through spring. Everything's kind of well established. So I'm just sort of accepting the fact that I know Utah State is going to throw the ball at a prolific rate. And that's what they've been geared to do. That's what they've done so far. So I'm going to hold my nose and assume that that's the case. Once I took Royals, because he did last to the end of the round. I mean, 16. After the year he had last year,

which is simply ridiculous, I kind of had to take it. Ashflock was taken ahead of him. And I just, I cannot, there's no way I would take Aflock over Royals at this point. No offense to mock. But with that being the case, well, I'm already in. I've made the decision to go with Royals. So I'm going to hop all the way in on Utah State and just go with it. You have to try to dominate a room like that. And with it being a high-balling passing offense, it's, you know,

I'm pot committed. So you might as well lean in. Yeah, I would say I'm a little bit worried. And in only this sense is, you know, They had their OC last year that left. And I think you went up, I think you went to the NFL maybe. But then Blake Anderson was going to take over play calling. And now Kyle is going to be on plays or the new guys going to be calling plays for the first time in his career.

So it's just, it's a little iffy, you know, just because you never know how first time play caller is going to do. But you're right, Proton, in the sense it's the same system. He was with Blake Anderson for a long time. And so I think there is hopefully like Anderson has mentored him well and he can call plays at the right time and all that. We shall see. Yeah. It's a question mark. And I think you'll see that affect his stock in full FBS league, certainly.

You know, any sort of uncertainty is not going to be good for anybody's stock. And there's so many different options that top of the draft. Do you, hey, Eric, have you looked into that? that situation more of like what Blake Anderson's current status is because if he officially gets fired, then doesn't the portal open for 30 days? That would be the concern, right? That would certainly be a concern. We'll see about that. I mean, in the leave of absence thing, sure, sure. Who knows? And that's, you know, we'll see how that all transpires. But if, The good thing about this.

I mean, if he goes in your transfers, he goes to the P4, obviously you don't lose him. He's still there because he's, you know, part of it now. Wherever he goes, those guys stay in and you get those numbers.

So unless you want me to, I can just bring him to my P4 team. What do you think? I just load up my P4. If he went to Michigan, then yeah, you can have them. Oh, yeah. Maybe Michigan.

state. Yeah, we'll see. It's certainly something to think about and it was just a case where we're shooting so high here and we're aiming. Just trying to get that, that nut hand. I went with it. Yep. No, I like that. Hey, we got a good question here by Shane that I'm going to throw up on the screen here in a minute and then we're going to go through Zach and I's drafts right after this break. At Desjardin, we speak business. We speak startup funding and comprehensive game plans. We've mastered made-to-measure growth and expansion advice, and we can talk your ear-off about transferring your business when the time comes.

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percentage that Matere wins the job at this point? Let's start with you, Bainbridge. Oh, I would say 6040 in favor of Mateer. I mean, they flip-flop. for the most part throughout the spring. But it was always seemingly like Mateer was kind of always, and this was progressively throughout the spring, the mater was kind of the guy in like the big scrimmages that Washington State had.

So I think he's the clear favorite at this point. I think he offers more dual eligibility, or eligibility, you know, mobility, dual threat, you know, option that that at house really isn't, in my opinion. So I think he kind of fits the mold of the system a little bit better too in that aspect. Not to mention the experience within that offensive system as well. So probably 6040 at this point, it just, you know, if Washington straight state struggles right out of the gate, which is definite possibility considering the roster turnover that they've had, we could see both quarterbacks at some point

or turn it over to Eckhouse. So probably 60-40, I think Mattir, I would be shocked if Mathier doesn't start week one. And I think everybody would agree with that one. Then it's a question of how does he start the entirety of the season? Yeah, I think that's good. For Proton, I want to ask you a question. You have a boy that I think it used to be the defensive coordinator.

Is it Robert Knight? That was a defense coordinator at Bryant where Zeviac House comes from. You have any intel either on, or this battle or anything from connections that you have? I haven't checked into my Bryant connections yet, unfortunately, but I think Bambers about, right? I don't know. Phil Steele had quite a few hot takes so far in terms of some of his battles.

You know, he's got Noah Kim beaten out Vasco. He's got Eckhouse beaten out Mateur. You know, and, you know, some others down the line here that, elude my grasp. But I found some of them are just like, oh, wow, okay. Not to be smirch Phil Steele, obviously. He's the goat of the college football preview magazines. But, you know, and that you showed off your Phil Steele stack of magazines there,

Proton. I wonder if you flipped through last year and how many of those, I know he talks about coaches and everything, but you flip through, how many quarterback battles did he actually get correct with those? He goes hot with some of those takes. Yeah. It really does. You know, so like I can't, I look at that and you have to raise an eyebrow and everything.

But like you're saying, you know, we do hear reports for at least Washington State. We get decent news coming from there. And I would say it's close, but, you know, 55, 45, 45, mature. And that's why he went in the second round. But I mean, gosh, if you're 60-40 and you're getting Eckhaus and round eight as opposed to, you know, the 210. in a league like this, I mean, that's huge. It's huge. It's how you win these leagues, frankly, is getting a QB that falls like that,

getting your Dexter Williams, who, you know, he's got, I think he's got Williams over French as well, if I'm not mistaken. So, you know, there's a lot. He has Dexter Williams, QB3. Oh, I'm sorry. My bad. But the other two preview magazines have Dexter Williams, which also speaks of that. That's what it is.

Some of these high-exeons don't know what the hell they're talking about. But, I mean, Bainbridge, you and I were talking earlier over text. And I do think the one thing that Phil Stee does that is different is he talks to the coaches. And I do think that there is something to be said about Phil Steele talking to these coaches and maybe having some insight on some of these battles that others don't. And I'm not saying he got all of them correct. But that's one of the things that I check is whether he talked to those coaches when looking at the depth chart. He, yeah, anyways, I've seen him nail things. I feel like the others

don't that do seem kind of out of nowhere and how is he getting that info unless it's from a coach. You know what I'm saying? This conversation is a perfect segue into your draft Josh and why you drafted John Manteer, you drafted a second quarterback in the third round in Malachi Nelson and then did not pair John Meteer with Zibayak house. And you still haven't drafted. a third quarterback option. So where are you going with this? Yeah. I mean, honestly, like, I was going to try to get Eckhaus there at, you know,

whenever I was going to get them later. Clearly, that wasn't an option because I am one of the guys that is, that has been on Eckhouse as the guy that's going to win that QB job. And so, and I've been on that from the beginning, but Mateer goes sooner. So that's why I drafted them. I mean, I think some of this with QBs will figure this out as we go along, but I'm not, I'm not too, too concerned because it's just all crap shoots anyways at this point. I did want to solidify for me.

I want to solidify running backs and get some wide receivers that I think could be really good in systems like Chris Hudson or Robert Freeman. I mean, I'm just going, I'm shooting for the fence with some. of these guys. And so, um, and we'll see what happens. I think to, um, I'm one of the places that I thought that I would be able to pair was

Vince Brown and then Jackson Warren and kind of get them back to back. And I was not able to do that either. Um, who are the Colorado state tight ends. Um, and so trying to just pair these rooms and go, go after rooms that can have kind of high volume. I mean, the other thing is, you know,

Texas State. Dionne Hankins is, a running back, but he's got wide receiver eligibility here. And we keep talking about Madi, but I don't, like, the U-TEP running back coach came over to Texas State. And I think it's been pretty solidified that I don't think Mottie's going to get the same workload at this point as he did the year before. And I'm not saying Hankins is going to get a crazy workload, but he's a bigger back.

And we did see Jeter in the bowl game get three TDs around the goal line that Madi didn't get. And so I think that there's a potential role for Hankins, but that whole room is just, it's just a mess. But yeah, even lower, you know, Prince Strawn and Sean Polk, I'm just going after potential rooms and potential players that I think that these guys, these systems like. And I like Dirk Cutter a lot, which is why I'm going after Boise State, the new OC there, or the guy that took over midway through the year.

So, yeah, I'm just going after. systems that I like primarily. This draft. What about you, Zach? Yeah, so, you know, I came into this. I really wanted to be balanced. I think I would have approached it a little differently after seeing how this kind of laid out. Salter was easy.

I mean, I lucked out kind of the opposite of Roton where he was at the end of this. I think I probably would have taken Salter at 1-1, which I know Genty is, He's been going one one everywhere, but just in a draft like this where QB is just, I mean, that salter and that gap between him and some of these guys going in the third round is just really big. I think I would, if I could do it over again, I don't know if I would have taken Pritchett in the second round. I might have wanted to go to running backs there or taking a QB, maybe get a guy like Gleason. and I kept telling myself I can get a QB in the next round, and I already mentioned it. It just got to the point where I was like,

I was looking at eight QBs. I'm like, they're all the same guy. One of these guys is going to fall to me later on. So I went with White. I went with Clark, who I think could have some decent value at that pick in round, you know, almost in the fifth round there. Moss. You know, I think that that offense is going to throw the ball.

ball so he's going to get some volume there um i mean i was tight end i went with wilson in the sixth round i really debated if i wanted to go tight end yet i didn't after those first four went off i was like man i just don't like any of these tight ends that well i liked the idea of what josh had going for colorado state but um i went with wilson he's a guy that um that he was targeted quite a bit last year, but he's a little bit inconsistent. So I feel like he's a guy that'll get me some good weeks here and probably some not so good weeks. But when you look at the rest of these guys that went after him, it's the same story. And I think he probably has a little bit more consistency to him.

And then I really just started taking guys that I thought might not be super consistent for me, but could give me some points down the road. Houston is a guy that I really like. I know Ethan Payne, I don't know if he went before him or after, but, and there's not a ton of info out there, but the G5 hive has a good podcast with those guys. Go check that out where they talk with them. But I just think Houston's going to be a guy that's a big part of that offense. And if he's not, then I'm going to, I have him in a lot of drafts.

And it's going to, it's going to bite me because I have him so much. But Winston Wright's a guy that this spring got talked to. about a lot. I think he has a chance to be the wide receiver one there. Courtney Jackson. Again, he's a guy that he's not going to do it every week, but he's going to give you, you know, probably half of his weeks are going to

be serviceable enough. We've talked about French. I think this steal for me was probably Wiggins, and I could be way off here. I think he's, I have him as RB1 for Jacksonville State, and I know they kind of split carries a little bit,

but I was actually surprised that he was still available when I picked him there. That was probably my favorite pick of the draft. Just because I'm like, I needed a running back and I'm like, oh, Wiggins just fell to me. But that's really, I was just trying to go for guys that, you know, balanced out my team. And I know not everybody's going to give me solid weeks, but who are some guys that I can get three to four good weeks out of? And that's kind of what I'm trying to try to hit right now. This is going to kind of segue into the next question. from Josh, but I, there should not be a six-round gap between, likely the starting running back

at Jacksonville State and Ron Wiggins. And then, like, Andrew Paul is based on his four-star status, right? And then I don't think, what's the other guy's name? Amar Lewis, he's going to be running back three or four. So there, you've got a clear steal in round 12, six-round. after those guys and get Rod Wiggins, who's probably going to, he was there, easily their best running back

at the end of the season last year. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's finish out the draft with, or the draft. Let's finish out this episode with that question. After round five were the top value picks that you didn't make it, you know,

not a next position, but just pick a position or a player that you liked that was after round five. And, Zach, why don't we go with you? Yeah. First. Yeah.

I'm going to, so I don't, know if I love the pick, but Hankerson at Oregon State, just like when he went, it was, I had Hankerson and Wiggins, and I was just waiting for one of those guys to come around. Again, I don't know if Hankerson's really going to do a whole lot, but it just feels like he's going to be the guy in that offense. And when you're looking at the other running backs that are going around that same time frame, I just feel like his value is going to be better. I don't think he's going to be, you know, a 15, 20 point guy every week, but I think he's going to give you some solid weeks. So when you get him as like an RB4, RB5 in this league, that's a really solid pick.

So that was kind of one that stood out to me. The other guy, and I don't know, sorry, I don't know if I was supposed to have two. But obviously the Dexter Williams pick, I was wanting to get him. I wanted the Georgia Southern. I should have done it differently where I took French and then right around the and I took Williams. I thought I was going to get him. But that's a pick that I like. If he wins that job, I think that's going to be, you know, with Mike's strategy, kind of wait on QB. That could pay off. Yeah, Mike, what you got? Yeah, Ron Wiggins by Zach. I think he's RB1 at Jacksonville

State. Eric, in round 12, you're getting a starting running back at Akron, which, you know, doesn't sound great off the, on the surface. But, you know, if you looked at the data a couple years ago, George Morehead was producing the, like, top five fantasy running backs in all of college football for like a five to six years span, right? Obviously hasn't transpired so much at Akron, but I think you're getting his RB1 in round 12. I love that pick. Mr. Andrew Katz getting Ty Robinson, Ball State in the 13th round. He had seven targets in each of those first two games against Kentucky and Georgia with Caden Simontza, who is now going to be the QB1. there at Ball State this year. Like you're doing that against Kentucky and Georgia. Let's see what you

do in the Mac Conference in October and November. So I really like that pick. And then last one than that at least, Josh, I actually, I like your round 11 tight end and Alex Bauman a lot better than your Colorado State tight end. So I know you were to shoot for upside there with the Colorado state tight end, but I like Alex Bauman ranked much higher than Vince Brown. So but getting him in round 11 there pairing him as one of your tight end options. It's really solid. Yeah. Proton, what about you?

Yeah, I like Winston Wright for ECU at the 9-2 selection. I do think he will be the number one there and they're going to be slinging the ball around. So, I mean, by that same token, Kattenhouser and Garcia going to 8-6 and 10-6 to JD, I think he's going to get a very solid every week starter out of those two. He had to invest in them, I guess, to some extent. But I think it pays off. But that's just my particular proclivities. And Anthony Simpson, UMass at the 14-7, he had almost 900 yards receiving last year.

I mean, is UMass great? No. But at the same time, that's a 900-yard receiver in the G5 at the 14-7. is just it's just free money at that point so that was uh another cat's pick i like that that robinson simpson two step and uh you know you obviously mentioned robinson too that nice job in the 13th 14th round yeah mike i really liked your pick of draylin washington and round 13 i think that's a guy that if elijah davis was to get hurt um and he if one of those guys has the backfield to themselves Like they're both really good running backs.

They're just splitting carries. And so I think Draylin Washington absolutely has opportunity to be a, you know, 15 point per game running back, you know, given the opportunity. And so, again, we're talking around 13 here. There's slim pickings at this point. So, and I do, I also like JD with, you know, Roger Harris. If he somehow is the, I mean, he just went all ECU. seems like. But I think of Harris is the guy. I mean, he's shown kind of the build and the ability in the past to be a good running back. And so if he's able to dominate carries there, then he can be

really good as well. Yeah. So those are the main ones I saw. I want to answer one of the here by Shane. If you draft a material, you also draft an Eckhouse. Yes, and normal drafts, I will pick both of them back, you know, not back to back. but both of them in drafts together. I don't leave a draft without the other. All right. One last question here, and then we'll get out of here. Fast forward to 2025.

Who is the Boise State starting running back? Dubar or Gaines? Any of you guys have a strong opinion on this? Because I do. Take it away. Take it. I do think, I think Sire Gaines, if he stays at Boise State,

I think he's a starting running back. in 2025. I think his upside is crazy. I think he's already 210. He showed out in the spring game. I think Gaines, although he had a decent yards per carry last year, I think he's a little bit skinnier than my preference for a bell cow running back, particularly the way the Boyes of State likes to do it.

And I think Sire Gaines. Sire Gaines also has that past catching ability that we really like. He's a wide receiver before he was a running back, similar to Genty. The question with Cyra Gaines, though, to me, is whether he even stays at Boise State long term. I could see him transferring out even as early as next year. Ashton Jente did. So there's all, right? Yep, yep.

So we will see what happens there. Bellas, love for you guys to be able to promote your work. Proton, why don't you talk about what you got going on right now? Sure. I've got a wide receiver column, the annual wide receiver column that I do. the deep retrospective. That's, I've been in the lab working on that for, you know, a couple of weeks in terms of putting that together.

So I'll have that coming out at the end of the week on fan tracks. All right. Mike, what you got? CFF site open for business, as I've mentioned before. Me and Papa Joe are going to get on the, get on the mics this week. So we'll be cranking out some podcasts coming back to back some wide receivers. So popping, Poppin, Papa Joe getting on the mic. Let's go.

It's rare, but he'll be on the mics. I miss Joe. That's great. I'm looking forward to it. That's awesome. Zach, what about you? Man? I know you got an article coming out here soon.

Yeah, we just updated ADP, so going through just some risers, fallers, just a few quick thoughts on that. And also kind of showing who we've gone after the most in draft. So we'll have that coming out probably this week at some point, I'm assuming. Yeah, and then we'll probably do it. Go ahead. Real quick, projection update is coming as well.

So we'll be updating a lot of depth chart updates and that kind of thing coming. So those should be hitting the site soon. That's awesome. And we don't talk about this much on this show, but the people that had the top two projections and all of CFF last year are on this show and Mike Bainbridge and Zach Hall. So I want to give them a shout out. They always do great work. You cannot go wrong by following. their advice and following their projections as well.

So, hey, thank you guys so much for joining us tonight. Next week, we are going to be doing a P4-only draft review. They're a little bit more action through 15 rounds in that one. Still getting players that we know their names. So that should be a fun one for, I believe it would be Mike and Eric that will hold down the fort next week. and then Zach and I will be on the mic the week after. So super excited that you guys are with us. Man, so much fun to see.

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