Fantasy Football Daily - College Fantasy Football Insight for Week 9 Success Revealed!

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

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When you fly in Emirates business class and you're picked up by your private, luxury, chauffeur-driven car, you'll see that your vacation isn't really over until your flight is over. Fly Emirates. Fly better. It's the Fantasy Points College Fantasy Football All-Axas podcast. I am Eric Froton here with my co-hosts Josh Chevalier and J.D. Yonke. And we have just finished up week eight of the college fantasy football season. And as part of that, we like to go through. much this is the official. We're past the midway point. So we'd like to go through some of the hits on our preseason favorites list, we're going position by position, as well as some of the

misses. And we all like the misses too, but gives us a chance to kind of rant and lament our failures and our lack of foresight or potentially just injuries. You know, sometimes it's nobody's fault when we make mistakes. And that's all I like to view these things. But any further ado, why don't we go to the signal callers, the quarterback position, Joshua Chevalier, why don't you start us off? Give me some of your hit QBs. Oh, man, some of my hits are few and far between. I will say, you know, Chandler Morris was a guy that I was on very early in the season going to North Texas.

And that was a guy that I wish I would have drafted more. Andrew Katz ended up just being. Hogged all of them, Katz. Yes. And he's killing it. And I said this year, I was like, I'm not going to reach for the guys that I like. If they go up, I'm just going to deal with it. And that's one that just came back to bite me in the butt for sure.

So that would be one of my, I would say, like, bigger hits. Gio Lopez, I mean, he's been a little bit up and down. But when he's been on, he's been on. But I wouldn't say that's, you know, special. I feel like these are guys that all of us were on. But definitely guys that I appreciated and liked and even stuck with when people are like, Oh, after fall camp reports that Gio Lopez, like, sucked in whatever, in the scrimmages and things like that. It's like, nah, this dude's a gamer.

Like, he's good. We'll trust the process on that. But, yeah, those are two for me that I, that I liked for sure. Excellent. JD. Any thoughts? You know, looking through the top quarterbacks, I'm like, man, I don't have a lot of shares of some of these quarterbacks. I wish I had some of these really high scores.

Now, just some, I mean, it kind of points out, like, how sharp some of the fans. tracks we do because looking at like the hits it's all on the underdog side like even like these cheaper guys like drew a lar i got in kind of like the last rounds of these john meteer i drafted as much as i could so shout out underdog for having a more beatable pocket that uh more beatable product than than fan tracks with what we got but uh some of lower own guys guys like tyler huff threw a few shares on i think i'm the only person i saw draft bryson daily of course i didn't do it enough but did it in a few of those leagues like late um but wish wish i would have thought to do that percent of them. Yeah, no, I can't blame you to that. And since you mentioned the underdog drafts, too,

I mean, number one front and center when it comes to quarterbacks, because they were, as it seemed to be the trend, they were somewhat overdrafted compared to what we were doing in our best balls. Josh Hoover, I mean, every single one of those best ball drafts in all the underdogs, he was a 13th, 14th, sometimes 15th round commodity. This is only 20 round drafts that we're doing. Now, these are short benches to have so much priority on quarterbacks be placed. at the top of that draft and then have Hoover going the 14th. I think that's pretty much stands out as, as, you know,

the guy who shouldn't have been going that deep that was. As far as, I mean, hits, yeah, as you mentioned, every year with college fantasy football, there's just a significant amount of turnover. If I had to go with somebody in at least the best balls, probably have to go with Chador. In our, you know, the champion series,

who you hear us talk about a lot, he was going, I would say, ninth round or above. see him going before the ninth round in any of those 12 drafts. And more often than not, you're looking at, you know, 9 to 12. That's right around his range. And he's currently in six-point passing formats, he's the number 11 scoring quarterback right now, which is, you know, obviously a number one QB. Beyond that, I felt like I was I was pretty, pretty bullish on Garrett Nussmeyer.

He's the number 13 scoring QB. but other than that, you know, I'd say as, as JD said, you have a lot of sort of dark horses. If we're going with the, you know, surprises, 100% J.D. Bryson Daly, top of that list, without a doubt in terms of guys who just came out of nowhere, it's Bryson Daly. I would say Kate Klobnik deserves to be mentioned as we were ready to put him out to pasture, you know, after Clemson, all the injuries in the wide receiver room last year, They go, they bring in Westco, you know, an absolute burner. And now their prize recruit, T.J. Moore, had 17 and a half fantasy points last game,

finally got a start. Looks like he has, he's up to speed halfway through the season. He will be starting for the next three years. So I definitely think you have to go with Kluvenik there. If I had to go with one more, Alonza Barnett, just the JMU explosion overall. Obviously, they took a step back last week against Georgia Southern. But, I mean, you can't argue with the Lons is done, you know, 235 points of number eight scoring quarterback in the country.

Is there anybody else who pops to you guys? As far as like, like, Blaine surprises and things like that. Anybody who. Yeah, I mean, one other that comes to mind is like Blake Horvath is a guy that, like, you know, wasn't sure what to expect with that Navy offense in general. And turns out it's a, it's pretty dang good when a guy can, throw a little bit on top of the rushing you usually get from the Navy team. And then a guy that I drafted a ton just kind of felt to me in the champion series a lot was

Cam Ward. Where were you getting him? What range? Like around where you, like he's my Chador, you know, same range, like eighth, ninth, 10th round, got quite a bit of him. But, you know, it's one of those things where it's like you get them because of course there's question marks. And I just hit on whatever.

like he's getting 40 pass attempts a game because they'll shootouts a whole time and it's like all right like it is what it is you know it was probably a bit riskier pick than what it turned out to be but it's paid off for sure well i mean if you look at that right cam ward 300 points uh according to six point passing touchdown metrics but then the number he's the number one qb the number two qb is another guy who is drafted and an extreme value and it's probably going to win a lot of leagues john matiorexie where, yeah, was it going to be him? Was it going to be Eckhaus? Suppressed his value a little bit. Now, those two, like you said, neither of those guys were going in the top seven rounds of the champion series. And they're the top two guys. And throw daily in and you have three guys who were not even, not anywhere near the elite upper echelon of quarterback. So, who's the thought.

And you're going to, that's always a theme. There's always guys you're not going to expect. because it's so many players. This just isn't the NFL that everything's going to be static and nice and neat and right across the middle. I was reminded today as I was looking into all of this of like there's two things that you just get value out with QB. The guys that people are like over, they just think they're trash.

So Cade Clubnick, right? Bo Nicks a few years ago, we're all like, okay, we've seen him play enough. He's not good. Then he gets into the right system or he gets the right receivers around him. And those guys boom. And then it's the guys that are in QB battles. It's the John Mateers. It's, you know, Will Rogers a few years ago.

We weren't sure if he was going to start there. It's those type of guys that, you know, if you can hit on the right Byron Brown last year when we didn't know if it was going to be hammered, Jerry Bowhannon. I mean, countless, it's like, again, if you can, particularly in best balls, if you can double stack on these battles and just take the discount. And then with some of these guys like Cade Clubnick that were kind of big recruits that looks like they're not that good, but maybe they're, you know, third or fourth year, fifth year for some of them.

I mean, you're seeing that trend over and over again. Look, Michael Pennix, like Bo Nicks and Jaden Daniels. We're all fourth, fifth year, six year QBs. I've used the term before. I've sort of imported it from baseball, the post-hype sleepers. Yeah, that's great. Those are where you get the most value. You think these guys are ready to put out the past year, and they're not.

You can throw Chandler-Morris in that group, too. Obviously, though, once you go to North Texas, it changes your perception from everybody. I will say just before we tie a bow on it, with the Mateer thing, too, it reeks of Anthony Gordon in 2019 from Wazoo. It's the same exact thing that happened. Anthony Gordon threw for over 5,000 yards. absolutely nuclear that year. It was the same thing. It was a, you know, a split situation going in. It was a transfer coming in. Is that who's going to be the guy? Same thing. History repeating itself. So, we will pause to take a break right now before coming back with our running back room. All right.

Let's go over to running backs. Now, Josh, would you like to lead the discussion on who you feel or a couple of your hits? Oh, again, this is another one that may be few and far between. I would say, you know, some, I had some of like Joaquind and Jackson a little bit late. That was a guy that I felt pretty good about. And early on, again, like, I think about my misses more than my hits on some of these. Of course we do. Of course. we always obsess over our failures, right?

And look, I think Jordan James has been good as a guy that I really liked. And, you know, same with you, Froton on that. And I think he's only going to get better. But I think about Donovan Edwards. It's like, this is a guy that I've invested in so much. And I just keep going back to well. And golly, like, I should have, you know, all the signs are there. Apologized Chris Kaye for double tapping with Collelle Mullings later in draft.

And I feel like I would feel a lot better about all of that, right? It's okay to go at Donovan Edwards early. If you double tap later, again, it's something. We do a lot of best balls, so I just think in that way. And so definitely the signs were there. I mean, it was obvious. People are talking about it. And it's like, you know, when you're just an idiot like me,

you just continue to go down the rabbit hole of like you see talent. And, you know, you kind of get lost in. No, there's other guys there and should have been double tap with club mulling. So I'll go with my miss on that. And then hit Jordan James, I think it's pretty decent, but we'll see what it ends up happened in long term. Yeah, geez, I can't argue. Mullings, I feel like I should take as one of my wins.

I had plenty of them. Obviously, our friend Mike Bainbridge, being a Michigan guy, he certainly has his claim to. I have a ton of Mullings. And he was sincerely one of the best values. He's currently charting as the, I think, number 30 running back right now, which is, I mean, that's an every week starter, obviously. JD, a couple of names off of your hit list, sir.

Definitely a much different list looking at the top ones, huh? It's a lot of guys that were drafted early. So if you want to lock up... It really is. You're absolutely right. Yeah, yeah. Next year, drafting, you want to lock up that production? It's like, these guys have been kind of locks like they were supposed to, for the most part,

which makes the misses hurt that much more. So starting with the miss is just like if I'm taking a Jeheme, Whiteberry early. And then West Virginia's offense just kind of totally falls apart. And he gets injured every other game and doesn't get the touches you're hoping. And they don't target him. The receiving game, that one just hurts when you're looking at the other guys. A guy did definitely target a lot towards the latter half.

I know Andrew Katz was drafted him a lot early. Marcus Cooper on San Diego State, it gets to the point where it's like, look, I don't think they're going to be very good, but I think he's going to get 30 carries a game. And thankfully, he's getting that volume. It's just absolutely insane. So shout out Marcus Cooper. It has been a legend on quite a few teams now.

Um, the most obvious hit Desmond Reed. Desmond Reed, dude, you got to be leading with Desmond Reed, J.D. Well, you know. Yeah. Come on, man. I wish. That's a nice hit. That's a nice hit, brother.

It's very nice hit. Did I see him being second to Ashton Genty and running back fantasy points per game? No, I probably would have him more than twice in the Champions League. I probably would have them on every single dynasty team instead of like 75%. And I probably would have more than like five shares on underdogs. So I'm checking those underdog teams. I'm like, did I not. screw up the roster around him so that I can win.

And I probably screwed it up. But anyway, Desmond Reed, he's just the star of the season so far. One more miss. Jalen Buckley on Western Michigan. And this miss, I don't feel as bad about it because I think the read is correct in that. The offense should be really good, especially in Mac play once they get the non-conference out of the way. And they've been, like, they scored, what, 48 last week against Buffalo, who just shut down Toledo. But unfortunately, got hurt.

And then he kind of got Wally Pitt a little bit. Jayden Nixon is just going bonkers every game now. So that one hurts as well. That's completely understandable. And a couple of good names that we have there. As far as my hits, I'll definitely go with Mullings. That was certainly a fortunate situation to be able to get him low. I also had a pretty good amount of To We Walker shares.

Me too, actually. Yeah, you know, I was like, the split back field. Like somebody's going to end up taking that over one way or the other. Tweed had better. and we talked about this on the show. And I know that we did over the summer where, so we just had better all around, you know, in-depth stats, the advanced metrics. All of them sort of slanted towards Walker, I believe, only something like, She had like 2.32.

It's the number that dances in my head are right around there for yards after contact. And, you know, to we coming in, obviously handling things. I feel like that's a decent win or so under my. banner so I'll go with those two as far as as failures you know I would say off the top of my head I probably have to look at my rosters a little bit more as opposed to oh you know what I'll go with I had some some LaShawn Williams shares of Iowa and let's say what Sean Williams has proven to not be worth rostering in any way shape or form Caleb Johnson has rested control of that room and just ringed it like a sponge and wrung it dry and it's his.

So I think you absolutely have to go there. I want to go Justice Haynes too. I mean, Jam is a little banged up now, but we just haven't seen that Alabama running back room developed. I have a pretty decent amount of Justice Haynes. So I do, I still believe he's more talented than Jam. But they're both right there. Jam hurt now, but cannot be spent.

a ninth, 10th round pick that it costs to acquire him on Justice Haynes. He is not returning that kind of value. Yeah. It's a little surprising to me that Bama, given their problems, moving the ball on offense, hasn't gone to the run game more. You would think, you know, I'm starting to question whether J.M. Miller and Justice Haynes are that good for a couple reasons. One, it's like I looked back at the Georgia Bama SEC Championship,

and Roydell Williams has like 12 carries for like 64 yards. And I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot, Rado Williams was, like, starting over these two. I was like, maybe they're not as good as I thought. But I think they are good. And I'm just curious why they're just not running the ball more with them. Because it does seem like they could be successful doing that. It's the divorce system, you know. He'd rather throw than run.

And that is held, even if it means, you know, when he runs, a lot of it's Milrow, too. You know, he's taking a lot of air out of that room. So if they're going to be running, it could be him. Yeah, that definitely factors in. I would think as far as anyone else we want to throw on the table for disappointments in the running back side from you guys. Yeah, I mean, some of the late round guys that I didn't hit on, like, AEO, Adé, but some of that I'm just like, man, that's probably more injury than it is.

I mean, he just didn't even get a shot. He got injured, like first game. Would have loved to see what he did with all the points they're putting up. One hit late was Nate Noelle. that's a guy that I just had a ton of shares. I was on him pretty early as like the RB1. And so, which has been good over the first six weeks. I mean, look, he is a ticking time bomb.

He always gets hurt. But when he's in there, he's productive. And he was that early on. But, you know, so I don't know if I would consider it a hit hit. But it's a guy that I got value on, at least early on, and best balls, you know, for the first six weeks or so. Hey, brother. Value is Val.

you that works for me um j be anybody to mind that's either somebody who came up and was a real sleeper there's a surprise or somebody was a profound disappointment yeah do you just want to say the uh when the noel made me think about it just going back to underdog real quick like some of the late round running backs were just smashing like i remember thinking like man there's four of these guys i like i don't know why i didn't take more of a strategy of just late round rbs because noel was one of them and he hasn't totally smashed yet but like you can tell it was a sharp pick especially once he returns to health. You get to drink RV1 for free, basically.

I mean, that's good business right there. Claiborne. Claybourne has to be mentioned. Has to be mentioned. He's been a stud. And I have multiple smart people talking them up. I heard Froton, I heard you talk him up before. Josh, I know you're on the Claiborne train.

And I know Bainbridge was drafting him. And this guy was free on underdog. Why not 100% if that's the case? I don't know. Got to rethink that one. Guys like Anthony Hankerson. super cheap on underdog. I don't know who saw that one coming, but there you know.

It was the two-headed backfield, too. And they were both eating. But, hey, and we've seen one of them ends up, like, either by attrition or just poor performance, when it gets sussed out, you know, it's not always the RB1 going in the season, and then ends up taking that job. And it happened with Walker, and a great example of Hankerson, too. Yeah. And then just two of my misses that I drafted everywhere.

Dallin Hayden on Colorado and then Andrew Paul Jacksonville State I took the same approach here I'm going for the transfer downs because he gets some monster seasons and transfer downs and like maybe just trying to go too obvious like the two big names Ohio State Georgia transferring down and I think just kind of playing it too obvious

because both been bad but the Paul I view Paul similar to Buckley it's like man he finally got back on the field because he's been hurt and like he just immediately ripped off I got 30 R touchdown around on his first care the other day it's like why is that not trace do But anyway, yeah, just it's hard. You try to get your plays, like your transfer downs.

You try to get your transfer up. Are they going to flop? And it's like at the end of the day, it's a football player. If he earns a role, he has it. If he doesn't earn the role, he's nothing. Yeah, no, all good points. I would even throw a little bit of Jaden Blue in there, too. I mean, obviously, he's been a discussion point over the past couple weeks for prop purposes.

But, you know, only 90 points heavily. As soon as as As soon as As soon as Tray Weiser No who is the Right C.J. Baxter

C.J. Baxter. C.J. Baxter. C.J. Baxter. So you know how it is. It messes you up. Tomato. Running backs. Too damn, that's running back. But once he went down, obviously Blue became, I mean, he skyrocketed. He was at end of the first, like top of the second by the time the season was rolling around.

And, you know, here he is. We're on the third, the fourth page of running backs. And there's Jaden Blue staring at me, you know, at number 73 or something. Not quite what we were expecting when we were all investing pretty heavily in him at the top of drafts but uh yeah i'll close out the running backs move on to the wide receiver group josh would you like to talk about some of the more uh your favorite wide receivers that did well this yeah i mean i think my primary favorite wide receiver that's done well is jeremiah smith he's a guy that oh you had so many freaking james i mean i thought a lot of jeremiah smith i think it became

a thing you failing you feeling all over you for it too it was it was Incessantly. On the show. Incessantly on me on this dude. It was him and Chris Tyree, and I was on one of them correctly. But, you know, Jeremiah Smith, I think it became a thing in some of our champion series draft. It's like, how late can we wait to see whether Josh will draft him? And, you know, at some point, I was like, I'll just draft him in 19th, 20th round.

And look, it's turned out to be a good picket. You know, again, history would tell you you shouldn't do it, but he was at all-world. But I'm just kicking myself for not having more Ryan Williams, to be honest, because he's another one that all of us, we all read the room. We knew that the talent and we knew that the room was awful because we were picking Jeremy and Bernard early on. And, you know, it's hard. It's hard.

Right? Yeah. It's hard though with a summer enrolly, true freshmen, but like you do see him play. It's like if we had preseason, you know, I think we all would have been or a spring game it's like that guy would have been definitely a high draft pick but it is hard and that's the tough part about college but ryan linds is a guy i wish i had more shares up for sure no problem with that my friend jd yeah so some guys that stood out that i feel good about um jeline noel on iowa states um i mean i hope nobody wasted their time watching the georgia texas game while the game

of the year was on that ucf iowa state i was just blown away with how good the offense looked and like i know talented but like rock obect was unbelievable in the pocket and they just look so quick he looks quick noelle looks quick and then higgins is just explosive so no well's been a monster i mean he's a really good player it kind of drafted him as like well he's going to get a lot of targets pretty good offense should only be arrows up and i'm like i didn't not even think he was that good like he is he's a stud and his metrics are are very impressive um krechaan mccray is a guy drafted and wow it's been quite an experience with his kent state team i don't know what's in store over the next couple weeks the second half of the season.

But he's had some huge weeks, and then he's up there right on the leaderboard. It's like, how did he end up there? It's like, well, you get 40 points, and you get the two points, and you average it up, and he's a pretty good player. Another guy I was taking late in drafts who I feel good about. Now, I feel better if his quarterback comes back because the Jeff Sims experience isn't a fun one, but if you get 100 yards and Jeff Sims is your quarterback, then you're a very talented player. So Jordan Tyson is a guy.

You might as well punch your ticket to the league if you're doing that with Jeff Sims a quarterback. That was the most appalling line I saw, I think all season. It's one of the most appalling was Jeff Sims getting the 30 pass attempts. Come on. Sam Levin wasn't getting it past 25. You're going to say, no, no, no, I don't care. How many points you're down? You aren't throwing the ball 30 times with Jeff Sims.

That just doesn't happen. That's the free money we needed on a, before our prop show on Thursday night. I think that came on Friday morning. Yeah, those wait. Yeah, you got to wait for the past attempts lined. You don't get those early in the week. No, no, no, you got to wait for those. So, yeah, obviously, once that came, I was just, oh, my God,

completions, all of it. Sorry, I just got excited about Jess Sims. Yeah, he gets, he gets one excited, I understand. Another guy. You get a lot of money off those unders, my friend. That's free money right there. Like, I always been free money who I wish I had more of it. I feel like I thought I had a ton of this guy because I drafted him a few times early on Underdog and fan tracks.

And then he just kind of nobody really caught steam on this guy. Andrew Armstrong for Arkansas. I don't know if any of us predicted the 14 targets a game or whatever he's getting. But I mean, just kind of clearly passed the eye test for me last week and kind of clearly, or last year, sorry, it was kind of clearly the wide receiver one going into the year. And who knows what to expect the traino, but like the line everyone loves to quote is he loves he gets his guys the ball, right? and like he that's his that's his only offensive scheme is just getting his getting the studs of the ball um but just didn't end up enough that guy's been smashing so shout out to arkansas and our boy andrew armstrong um and it's been different quarterbacks it's been injured quarterbacks hasn't really matter kids been a stud one miss i'll point out which is obvious and i even was like trying to like acquire the season because he get antsy i was trying to like acquire more of this guy and luckily i didn't quite do it but casey conceptione for nc state just not getting the job done just not just not not even close. Yeah.

Yeah, it's a hard one. Completely agree on all those fronts. I would have to say if there's somebody I was thinking it's doing pretty well, Denzel Boston. I was a pretty good advocate of him, have a pretty good amount of shares. kicking some butt. I don't want to say, let's see, where he is a non-PPR? He's right on that fringe of the top 12, and he was going.

I would say, generally, you know what? He was one of those guys who you could get him real reasonable early. when we started the champion series in February, he was probably going like late teens. I'd have to verify that. Yeah. As the season got closer and closer, you saw Boston slowly creep up

until where he was pretty much single digits. I would say probably around 7, 8, right around 7, 8 by the time the season closed. I feel like that was a pretty nice dub. Somebody who is further down at, Travis Hunter, I feel pretty good with got a lot of his, shares and I was able to leverage him pretty well. And that's been a nice, a nice, you know, development, of course.

I would also say a dude that I've been on for years. And it's nice because I have him in pretty much every dynasty league. And I've just had him on my bench, maridating, waiting. But Gerwan Newton for Toledo has really emerged this season. It's like he didn't get the usage in years past. It would be more, he was explosive on a per target base. and it did a good job in the red zone. It caught a lot of touchdown passes.

But he didn't get the volume because Dequan Finn, obviously, they were running a lot of RPO type stuff with him and centered on run the ball. Whereas this year, completely different ballgame, you're seeing a lot more passing him. Junior Luther Vandross, R&B fanatic, as well, the two of them. But Jirwan Newton is right next to Xavier Restrepo and Ryan

Williams and Denzel Boston right in that line of guys in terms of points, just something you have to respect there. I will also put honorable mention, like for, I guess I'll lead it off with guys who are surprises. For one, I'm really impressed by like the top 20. Dude, we did pretty good on the top 20 of these receivers in terms of what the list look like. It's usually from year to year.

That's where the most turnover is in terms of where you expect guys to be and where they end up. We've been pretty good on that front. A couple of the big surprise, obviously Nick Nash is Numero. Number one, Nick Nash has to be with a bully. He's number one leading receiver, you know, in the country. He's got 206 half-p-R points to 162 for Trey Harris. I mean, that's, that's out of that's not in hand, guys. It's 44 points more than the number two wide out. Any conversation starts with Nick Nash. Ty Felton's right there. D.T. Sheffield is well, Devonte Ross for Troy. And I will say the, that's what we call it, the Wino. The Wino of the 2024 season.

Rashard Smith, not a wide receiver. Classified as a wide receiver by fan tracks is currently one, two, three, the number 10 scoring wide receiver according to half PPR scoring. So he has to be mentioned in terms of guys who just came from out of nowhere won that job it was a very unsettled running back room and uh is not is a wide receiver so any um any your favorite sleeper you know out of nowhere types that uh that ended up coming up guys yeah let's let's take a quick break and they'll come back and do those sleepers yeah i think that's a yeah the sleepers are really fun i'd mentioned uh you know jeremiah smith before uh for me i think some of the other sleepers you know one guy

Jacori Brooks he's a guy that got late and underdog quite a bit and then also got Colin Lacey but then double tapped with him in the champion series quite a bit later on

so I was able to get both of those and so Chiqui Brooks is one that's been over consistent this year and has been you know really fun fun to own for sure so I'd say those two

any prominent busts we want to talk about but I would have to say Luther Burden has to be right the top of the list. Yeah, for sure. Definitely put Evan Stewart at the top of that list. Evan Stewart, he's got a seat at the table. Before the last couple weeks. He's already become a post-hispiper mid-season.

And now he's back. Life comes at you fast. Yes. He's cut up and down to both ways. Yes. We'll see what happens with Stewart. You might have a nice little, might have a nice stretch run, but you're right. Absolutely.

Sorry, keep going. Another one for me was definitely Chris Tyree. That's a guy that I drafted quite a bit in 2325. And you guys, again, warned me about him and I did not listen. And that is on me. So I can end with that. I'll let you guys talk about how awesome your bus were. I tell you what, let's talk about Iloc AIA manner.

Rush, rush to the AEO, right? Not happening over there. 31, 388 and 4. He's just a guy. I mean, he just feels like a guy. There's another receiver. He's hoping doesn't go and stink, but he does a lot of times, you know, not what we were hoping for.

Frankly, I blame a lot of that on the QV play. I just, obviously, I've been one of the, arguably the world's number one, Elijah Moore, Stan. And I have not been pleased with what we've seen from Daniels. So, yeah, that certainly has to be many. anyone else else up to Jeremy Bernard you mentioned Jeremy Byrd. Yeah, has to be discussed. We got to get in top five round draft capital.

Action is a great one right there. Yeah, Sean Atkins. That's a great. The Akin's diet. Oh, gosh, you got a heart attack from the Ackins diet. But your point, Jontay Cook, let's give him a little bit of due. We expected him to not be a complete blank. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah. You know, I think, you know, I think, And some of this is because of injury, but, you know, Trey Wilson could be put in there. Got hurt. Yeah. I mean, we were giving them, you know, welcome back, of course. Dude, let's not forget about Dionne Burks. Yeah.

Dionne Burks, the least explosive receiver. I put that out on Twitter if you guys will look at that, you know, that little fun fact. All his receptions, Dionne Burks, X amount of receptions, whatever it was. I think he was like 24. And he has yet to have one single of his receptions go for 20 plus yards. That is the most receptions without an explosive catch in the entire power for. Bah humbug, Mr. Dionne Burks. We expected so much more from you, sir.

Yeah, for sure. In his defense, in his defense, okay, he's got a former five-star. our quarterback coming in this week, a guy they kicked Dylan Gabriel to the curb for if you listen to a certain podcast. That's right. That's right. Hundreds of thousands of followers, multiple of them saying, yes, they showed Dylan Gabriel the door for Jackson Arnold. So Jackson Arnold's back and the explosion's coming, guys. It's coming. Good. It could. Missing peace. The missing piece. Can't be worse from a passing perspective. I feel confident about that. And just for the record on Dionne Burks, 3.8% explosive play rate for his catch is one 20 yard catch out of 26 receptions that is the lowest rate in the P4 bah humbug anyone else come to my a jacchariah branch take let's give Zachariah branch to mention well done you are on the list anyone else anyone else before we tie it up and move to tight up I would

say Noah Smith was another guy that was getting no one smith deserves it yes what happened no First spend. Seriously. He got parries and everything last season. Yeah. Forced. I mean, look, I think that's some of like some of these like G5 teams. I just get so little coverage.

It's hard to, it's hard to really see what's going on. You know, unless I shouldn't listen into like, I don't know, something. But the, yeah, he's a tough guy. That's a tough pill to swallow. Luckily, I don't have a ton of shares of him, but definitely. I mean, look, wide receiver is the most voluble. model group. So it's tough to get it right. There's definitely some variance there. One more guy, a guy that luckily I don't have a ton of shares in, but then I, it was kind of

late in the off season. And then I saw the quote from Luke Fickle that I was like, I haven't seen the shared anywhere where he's saying like, yeah, Will Pauling's not, if it's up to me, he's not going to get anywhere close to what he, the volume he had last year. That's not how we want our offense to function. And I'm like, ooh, I think the whole point of drafting Will Pauling is they're force feeding the slot. And if that's not what they're going to do, so I think I didn't end up with a ton of them, but I have them a few places I'm having on underdog a little bit. That one hurts as well. Well, Pong is a good list.

I'll wrap it up with Nick Anderson, who's just, I mean, he's just been injured. Yeah. Hard to produce when you haven't stepped on the field, not really his fault. Just it's a disappointment. And obviously, Stephen McBride, if you drafted Stephen McBride at any, any value, you did not return your, your investment. That was me. I think I had, like, I don't know. I probably had 60% of my best ball.

that's even like bright oh i was like you know the discount on the i know i know and it's like well that was late too you're you kind of were already pot committed once that happened but you know that's uh sure that is what it is all right let's uh let's tie up the tight ends since we probably should get a little moving here we get so excited by the stuff we want to take a uh little listener chats here we want to you know we've got some pretty i got to give it to you guys The chat's rocking tonight. Yes. I look to say Billy Edwards.

Leland wants some Billy Edwards talk. Absolutely. I'm sorry. Billy Ball. Top 24. He's a QB2. Billy Edwards deserves it. And I said this before we even talked about him.

I'm disappointed myself and I bring up Billy Edwards. I watched Talia Tago, Vailoa, on the field. Lee Le Levin tried to throw a 15 yard out to a stationary target, and it was hard. He couldn't do it. Billy Edwards is better than Talia Taga Vailo who's the leading all-time Big Ten

passing leader give me Billy Edwards over him all day going to tight ends I will lay off Marcus Pepperman mentioned our boy Eli Stowers

and he has to be mentioned for that Jeff Sims appreciated Bobby is in there Armstrong Andrew Armstrong absolutely for Arkansas has been a stud

and he was a guy who was probably like round 20-ish material that we were looking at. I want to say, I was taking them in the teens. But then I feel like he even got pushed down on the 20. It's just everybody who's kind of discounting the Arkansas situation. Right on the money with that. Appreciate the love, purple rain. Of course, our boy, Joe, our Paiso. Yeah. And I think that's what, ah, is it Bird Emanuel season yet? Come on now. Come on now. That's a great question. That's not cool. Poor, poor Bert Emmanuel got carted off the field

this this week. No, no. I hope. We almost. We almost. He immediately comes in, first passes a touchdown, then he gets like 70 rushing yards right off the bat, like already having a good fantasy day, and then he gets carded off. It's just, yeah, nice things. We got the full range of emotions with Bert Emmanuel on Saturday. It was a quick ride, but a wild one.

Sorry, sir. And Lamarcus Pepperman is next to JD, rivals him as the greatest Bert Emanuel fan and all of CFF. So I will say, good stuff. Good stuff. We got a question here from our producer, which cyclone is winning the Heisman? Oh, my gosh.

Is it Jalen Noel? Is it Rocco-Back? Is it Carson Hanson? Dude, after Rocco Best, last week, okay, I watched a lot of the Rocco Beck game this past week. It was horrible. It's not going to be Rocco Beck. Okay, so take that out of it. Bainbridge was so angry.

I was texting me expletives during that whole game because I advocated for the Rocco back over because I liked me some Rocco Beck, as we all know. and it was we got there we got over two 32 and a half oh my was it was it a tough red that first half 40 yards passing and the first half was not pretty but rock a rock it's there's somehow it was it was a wild ride it's like it's like the cam word cow over when oh yeah oh 60 yards i had people tweeting at me like you're an idiot and then it did you for 400 yards I was like Ben knew it the whole time. We're fine.

Hey, we all know the heat. We all take the heat every once in a while. That's just part of the deal. But moving on to tight ends, gosh, we've been a long-winded group today. And I blame myself for that. Tight ends, man, I feel like we have to start at Tyler Warren, right? Obviously, you know, Harold Fanon is our Lord and Savior. He is, without a doubt, the guy.

I feel like we kind of knew Fanon was going to be. He was drafted, you know, pretty respectful. he was high. Tyler Warren, on the other hand, was like mid-teens, like in that 15 to 19 range. I got a ton of his shares in that range in the early going. And then he started to creep up. But, man, I mean, still, he was in the teens all year long. Some of your favorite tight ends, Josh. Well, I will say it's amazing to see what Penn State does when they just, like, rely on one tight-in versus having multiple NFL. I put out a tweet like that during the NFL Combine and just got it. slammed my Penn State Twitter.

It was great. I was like, man, y'all got to get a life. But I'm glad to tell you. Me and J.D. got to watch Tyler Warren get serenaded on the way out by the Penn State Faithful at the USC game after he caught, you know, I know, 25 passes. We were actually right as J.D. and I were walking out of that game.

Like, Tyler Warren's coming right up behind us. And you just hear like this, the fans start to go crazy. And me and J.D. thought it was for us. And we sort of turned and look behind us. behind us and it's like, oh, no, this Tyler Warren, he's got great hair and everything. And it's like, oh, wow. Yes, come on through, Mr. Warren. I'm sorry to be in your way, sir.

Yeah, I love it. No, that's awesome. You know, I'll just go with my miss here because it's just a big one. I just had it all over the place was Luke Hawes. I mean, he's a guy that I thought from his true freshman year, like that they would actually use him in the receiving game because the advanced metrics were just crazy. and they've just used him as a blocker. And that hurts when you draft him a ton at tight-in there.

And a white one that I got pretty much for free everywhere was Elijah Royo. And he's been a little bit up and down. But when he's hit, I mean, he's been on and he's good tight-in. And that's, I think, late-round tight-ins, it's hard to get, you know, massive hits at that range. Unless you're picking up Eli Stowers or somebody like that for sure. Yeah, yeah. completely agree. JD. Thoughts?

Yeah, well, I think we buried the lead here as the world's most preeminent Jack Bess drafter. Well, we said tight ends. We were talking about tight ends. That's why you didn't mention Jack Bish. That's why a lot of people might have missed him, but, you know, Jack Bish, like just going back, if you're in a past heavy system like this, and there's not really any proven guys, and I know everyone loves them,

Savian Williams, NFL hype. but like good God, let's see it, Savian. And he can name the MVP of the team in Springball and you haven't been healthy and you were a true freshman and you produced for an SEC team. It's like, fine, I'll draft Jack Besh late everywhere I can. No one else wants to. Oh, well, maybe he'll start.

Maybe he won't. But yeah, I didn't quite see this coming. But hopefully they're going to keep getting him the ball because they made like a concerted effort not to get him the ball last week and the offense looked pretty bad. And like, Bess just looks amazing to me. looks way quicker than he should at that size. Like, you know he's kind of imposing.

You know he can get open, but like, oh, he just looks way quicker than he should. He looks good. At that size. He looks like he's 250. What is he? What is he? He's 225. He's 225.

That's a big boy. Oh, he doesn't look to 20. Anyways, it's all good. I will go with, in terms of disappointments, I think Luke Lechay is, I don't know. I mean, front and center and the disappointment list, I think for everybody, we all got ourselves a piece of him, and he took a piece out of us. In terms of guys that, somebody I like that, I think, has done well as a sleeper, who has outperformed his draft position, Max Clare for Purdue.

I do declare very good last year, and he sort of split a little bit of time. He's pretty much the only guy that they can count on. Purdue to be any sort of a consistent, just catch the ball on a consistent basis. I mean, I'm not talking about making plays. I'm just talking about securing the reception. He's one of the few guys they have on that pathetic team. So he, you know, relative to where he was drafted, he's outdone his draft position, I want to say. Other guys that I, certainly, as we talked about the sleepers, Eli Stowers has to be mentioned.

Tanner Coziel Number three You know What more can you say about Tanner Coziel Like two years ago Not last year Two years ago

They had that dual tight end Situation and we were all Pretty hopeful for it Coming into 2023 And it kind of didn't have The same impact As that room did in 2022 So that depressed him

A little bit You know He was a double digit round guy He was in the low teens You know I want to say like 11 to 13 is right around what I ballpark him at. But I mean, he's right now the TE2.

You know, he's just a tick behind Tyler Warren and Fanon, and those two guys are legitimate gods. So only three guys have over 100 points and half PPR scoring, and Coziel's one of them. Another one, without a doubt, and this is something that we all missed on, really. I don't think any of us have this guy. Joe Royer, Cincinnati, transferring from Ohio State, you know, they, transfer in Will Casmaric from Ohio. You got G. Scott, who's a program guy there in the tight end room, and Royer is sort of like the third man out. So he says, screw this. I'm not going

to compete here. I'll go over to Cincinnati. Joe Royer is awesome. Like watching him play the position of tight end, it's clear. This guy can go. And he's, you know, right now, right on the outside, right at that top number 10, 11 mark. I mean, that is, he was undrafted pretty much everywhere. I don't know if there was, I don't know if we have hardly any shares of Royer in that, uh, in the Champions League. Any other of your favorites got? No, I think that's it. I mean, it's hard to like, you know, a lot of the guys that are at the time,

I mean, there's a few sleepers, right? But most of them are Jake Brenningstall, Colston Loveland, Holden will. I mean, the guys that we're all, we were drafting and yeah, at proper places. I will say like Gunner Helm is a guy that is actually like coming on doing well. I think those that were drafting a tight-in from Texas were drafting Amari Nyblack and not gunner home. And he's a guy that is what probably top 15, top 16, maybe top 20 tight-ins or whatever. So, yeah, he's a guy that I'd say is kind of creeped up there. But everybody else is pretty basic guys that we thought were going to be pretty good.

Yeah, I'll end this segment with our boy, Leland. Kenyan Sadiq will be the tight end. We were all talking about this show. As we all know, J.D. and I mentioned Kenyan Sadiq after he went and attended the UCLA Oregon game in Parison a few weeks ago. And let me tell you something. Kenyon Sadiq stands out in the uniforms, in the line. You're looking at that guy and you're saying,

what planet is he from? What is this guy? And with Terrence Ferguson out last week, Sidique got his time. Absolutely needs to be on the dynasty tight end radar, and he will be a monster next season with Dante Moore. Absolutely believe that 100%. Steve Jackson mentions the Cal tight end. He has a name Stephen Jackson, the great Stephen Jackson, college fantasy stalwart himself. His name is Jack Endries.

And Jack Endries has a dad. His name is Robert Endries. And Robert Endres is a fan of the show. Did you know that, everybody? Did you guys know that? My friend Robert Endres is a huge guy. Actually, got in contact with him because he read my tight end articles the last two years where I get into depth about the nature of the tight end position in fantasy,

where the points tend to come from, things of that nature. It's on fan tracks. So he is a big data guy. Talk to Robert a lot. Friend of the show has retweeted. the show link, believe it or not. That's how much of a friend in the show he is. So I refuse to end this segment

without mentioning Jack Endries. The man, Jack Endries, of all appreciated. And I hope to get to a Cal game, which I'm sure J.D. will attend with me in order to hang out and tailgate with the fam. So, Josh, why don't you take over from here since I'm long-winded? And let's

buzz through our waiver wires. I love it. We're going to take a quick break and don't do waiver wire. All right. We can we can do a little our JD and I special where we just zoom through these things. You guys are experts at this. Yeah, we're 20 props and 20 minutes. That's what we do.

That's right. Good ones too. Watch the show. Yeah. We'll do that. We'll have that on Friday morning. But we'll do these pretty quick. We'll start here.

Anybody, well, let's start with this question. Tavan Jackson. What are you guys doing with Tavon? Wow. Curtis, work, he's out, has a thumb in. injury, I think his nail, got torn off his throwing thumb. So it looked pretty nasty, some of the pictures. Is Tavon Jackson a guy that you guys are going to be going after?

Not really, but he does intrigue me. Like, he got a few puff pieces this off season, and he's clearly an athletic kid. We all saw what his brother was doing in college basketball, just a walk in 20 and 10, and clearly has some raw tools. And you get him behind a good coaching staff that kind of likes him with some good receivers. But is he going to light it up? I wouldn't necessarily expect it. But I do think it wouldn't be surprised to be runs a little bit more than Rourke.

Yeah, he's a 7% ownership rate right now. And from at least a dynasty perspective, you want to have Cygnetti's QB. I doubt he's going anywhere unless the SEC just comes knocking right away. So he's at very least should be a priority waiver ad in the dynasty format. I don't know how many, you know, look, I'm looking in my thumb right now and I'm feeling uncomfortable. about not having a nail on it, but I wonder how many weeks we're talking about here. I don't think that it should be a priority ad for this season.

Yeah. And, you know, one thing to have note is they have Fernando Mendoza's little brother there at Indiana. And that staff, like, handpicked him. He was going to JMU and then he went with him at Indiana. I wouldn't be, and that kid's probably pretty good. So I think just pick up both if you're going to pick up Taven Jackson there. And also the Miami Hurricane staff actually wanted a piece of Mendoes as well,

but he stayed faithful to Indiana. So interesting there. All right. But for this week, J.D., we'll start with you. Quarterback calls for this week. It should be easy for me keeping it simple because my whole MO this week, I was going to say, I don't really have much. There's one or two obvious guys that have hit on.

And if you need some waiver wire this late in the season, unless it's a spot starter, you're kind of S-L anyway. I just want a really quick shout out. Luke Altmyer's been playing really good football. I do want to shout out Kate and Houser. We know that East Carolina offense is they want to play fast and they want to be an air raid. They just have been kind of bad. Well, he had 36 fantasy points in his first start.

And I do think he would have been the starter to start the year, but he was injured toward the end of fall camp. So that's a little encouraging and they fired their coach. So who knows what we're going to get. But I would assume you're still a whole lot of plays in the air raid offense. So if you really need somebody, that's a look. Yeah, I'll give you a quick reminder. Sorry. No, that's me.

Go ahead for a time. I'm sorry, Josh. I'll just give everybody a quick reminder. We talked about Jacuri Brown last week. He was 7% owned. He is 8% owned right now. That means you guys didn't listen to me. Friendly reminder.

Come on, let's rectify that. John Kittner, UAB, literally 0% owned. If you're in deep leagues, which is what I try to focus on here, the waiver wires, the deep stuff, I mean, UAB doesn't have a choice but to throw. They're poorly run. They're playing, you know, AAC defenses, which are pretty bad anyways. I mean, you could do worse as a speculative shot. to just go and stash. Cole Snyder, Eastern Michigan.

Eastern Michigan is 5 and 2. All right. Eastern Michigan is dominating right now. I don't know if you guys realize this, but he's not on Buffalo anymore, Cole Snyder. He's on EMU, and I want a little action from action coming up here soon because there's going to be plenty of points to be scored there. Cole Snyder, 4% own.

Go get him. Have a little fun. Yeah, I like that. Last one I mentioned is Sawyer Robertson. Look, he was a kid that was born for the air raid. apparently this is another like post-hype sleeper right like phenomenal prop guy last week to 232 and a half i mean yeah a laughably small line on against texas tech sore robertson great call josh yeah jake spavitle man uh he is unlocking him and look the kid is i think he's

averaging like 29 and a half fantasy points per game since he's come in and that's in i think that's in four point touchdown so and six point the the great greatest format ever. Greatest format, the only format. He's got to be, he's got to be 31, 32 in that format. I mean, because a lot of his stuff is coming off of passing touchdowns. I just want to, I just want to shout out that staff real quick because, yeah, and Spavidol, I mean, the last two years has been pretty undervalue, not a great head coach,

very good offensive coordinator. And now that Aranda's taking over the defense again, like they just look very well, coach. They're at Helmarry at Colorado away from us talking about Baylor very differently. Absolutely. And that's what happens when you get Jeff Grimes out of town. He goes right over to Kansas. and tanks that offense. Everywhere he goes, the Pied Piper of Futility, Jeff Gras,

offensive coordinator. Sorry. Yeah. No, and look, this week, Sawyer Robinson's got Oklahoma State, and we know what quarterbacks do at Oklahoma State. So I think you can fire him up right away, 10% on. He's been an auto over for the past few weeks, and he's been cashing him left and right. Zoria Robertson, bless that, man.

Yep, yep, that's good. All right, JD, give us your running backs. Um, my running backs. Well, if you need a running back right now, you're, you're probably not doing too great. Um, I will point out a guy that's just kind of looks pretty good on my television lately, Elijah Young, you know, the volume's been pretty good most of the year. They still airing it out a decent amount, but like the offense has changed a little bit and they're pretty darn good and their defense is better than a lot of these Cusa teams. I think they're going to put up some good numbers here on these Cucid teams, especially once they get to the lower rung. So Elijah Young, I think he's a guy who like could just kind of average 20 a game over the end of the season. It wouldn't really shock me.

But I'm bearing the lead here. So the good thing I got to go first. But AJ Turner on Marshall. I know we brought him back. I was wondering. I love Reservist. Proton brought him back. It was like week one or two, right?

And we kind of mentioned him a few times again and how explosive he looks like. By now the cat's out of the back. The kid is an absolute stud, great receiver. Super explosive. His metrics all year have been just off the wall. You're like, why isn't he getting the ball more? Maybe these are corny? Like, no, no, no.

Watch the man play football. They're not corny. And we know what Marshall wants to do with the running back position. Okay, they got the air raid in now, but like, do they? They can't really throw the ball. Yeah. Well, yeah. And keep in mind, Marshall, he has a player props all-American ahead of him in the depth

chart coming into this season. Anytime you've got a player props under all-American in front of you. Then you want to, that's a backup position I want to invest in, of course. Oh, man. I love the shout out. Uh, any, anybody else for you, J.D? All right, Proton, give us your calls. Jaydon Bough, Florida, 19% owned, has to be owned in every single C2C league, every single one, without exception.

If you're in one with me, I have him. Uh, tough break. That being said, uh, five touchdowns. Montreau Johnson, hey, buddy, take your time coming back. We're good. We're good. We're fine. Yeah, I don't care if he's on a buy.

Great call, Steve Jackson. And you're in a league with me in C2C and he's mine. Go check out the roster, Steve. That being said, yeah, you can't. We heard all about him in the spring game. Wasn't a huge recruit. I want to say he's like in the RB 40 range of 247 rankings heading into the season. That's a phenomenal spring.

It looked great in the spring game. His agility, the way he attacks the edges of tacklers and just powering through the arm. Tacklers, a very savvy runner. And you saw that on display. Goodbye, Montreal Johnson. Have fun. Justice Ellis in Indiana. 15%. Dude, the guys go to touchdown every week. He just does it every week. And it was like,

it was a steady diet of 10 to 12 points for like four straight weeks. And boom, we get a 24 pointer last week. It's just inevitable. Now you have Rourke out for a little bit. They're going to give them less carries. 15% owned. This is Indiana. This is our beloved Indiana Hoosiers. I don't want to belabor the point. But how many times do I have to tell you about Javy and Thomas Cal? How many times do I have to tell you people? I hope you picked them up. He's 5% owned out there, not enough of you did. He could have given you a hell of a week. He, as I've stated, I'm saying it again.

Said it about Mafa and Shipley. I'm saying about Jaden Ott and Jamie Thomas. J. Beyond Thomas is better than Jaden Ott. This year, right now is the stands. He's a better running back. I can't unsee what I've seen. I've been saying it for weeks. Please pick him up.

Yeah. They play Oregon State this week. I mean, if there's a week to pick up. Jet Thomas, it is, even if you just start them this week, this is the week to do it. I started everywhere last week in all my big leagues with all the deep rosters, every single league I have them in, and I have them in them all, started them everywhere, and he should be once again started this week. Lastly, Al J. Henderson, Buffalo, finally, we have a little bit of shaking out in that room.

It's like, who's it going to be? Like, we're trying to find out for our match. It looks like Al J. and a cool name, a L, a, Y. I like that.

1% owned Buffalo went out there and ripped it, got his 20 plus carries, and Buffalo looks like a wagon. Looks like they could be putting up some points in the Mac and I like Macion. So there's your Mac pick for the week.

Get yourself some Al J. Yeah, I like that a lot. One other guy I'll mention here is Elijah Davis from Louisiana. I mean, he's a guy that, look,

they're splitting carries there, but if they ever decide to actually give the best running back, the most carries, like they did this last week. They give him 25 touches, and he scores 28 fantasy points. And that's what he does when he gets a lot of touches. This kid's pretty electric. He's pretty thick for a G5 running back 210, 20 pounds. So he's a guy.

He's on a buy this week, but worth a stash going down. They're also the class of the sunbelt right now. They're rolling teams. And as it comes, you know, once these games start shaking out, you want to have the dominant primordial beat. on these alpha teams in the lower divisions because they end up being steamrollers. So great calling them. Yeah.

One last one here. That question is Kelly Joyner, trick-a-treat. Do you think he's for real or, you know? Well, I'll walk into my wide receiver room since Kelly Joyner, Wino, wide receiver in name only. I started in the 50 team where he dropped a 30 burger for me. I really appreciate it. I've had Kelly Joyner on my bench and like I refuse to drop him in deep leagues, which I haven't been a couple because of that very reason.

It's been injuries with him. For his whole career, can he stay on the field? And when he's on the field, the guy is straight up explosive. And we haven't seen much from Naquan Wright to make me think like, oh my God, this generational talent, Naquan Wright is ahead of Kelly Joyner. God forbid. There's no way he could ever see the field. Well, look, he's had three weeks of 25 plus, I want to say. He's dropped a 30 plus this past week. Like, that's, you know, Byron Brown, they need to do something to spur on that offense. It's not Sean Atkins. It hasn't been Byron Brown. So they need to do something. Kelly Joyner, they look at him as a manufactured touch, explosive playmaker. And for a team like that, playing against poor defenses, that's a good place to be. He's 23% owned. And he, qualifies at wide receiver could do a lot worse.

Yeah, that's great. What other wide receiver calls you got for a time? Caleb Douglas, another guy mentioned him two weeks ago. Caleb Douglas watched that game. And I was like, man, this guy's good. It's better than Koi Eakin. I know that. And then, you know, he's taken over that X role while obviously Josh Kelly, who, you know,

JD, JD's boy, Josh Kelly, takes over that slot. damn all they're doing is breeding shootouts they're not interested in defense joey mcguire is a defensive coordinator in name only so he's a dino i guess uh because they're out there to score points and that's what they're doing i think three percent owned let's let's rectify that just put them on your roster well you could do a lot worse last week and like it's a really good plays this last weekend like because morton was kind of chucking it up and he had a few where i'm like oh no another morton pick and like now douglas just went and snagged it he's plucking him like He's good.

He's clearly the best outside receiver on that team. I can't see it. I can't see them stop throwing to him. So right there with you. And I'll just leave it at this. Nick Marsh, 27%. I mean, if you don't know, we all know by now. I mean, Nick Marsh, don't leave them out there.

Go for it. Go ahead, JD. Yeah, so Josh Cameron has seven receiving touchdowns. We've hit on Baylor. And now Cameron has at least six targets in three straight games. And I just love it. I love the aesthetic number 34 catching the screen passes. finding the end zone the offense is even fast yeah you just got to love it i think you'll be a

and he's huge he looks like a running back it's it's very odd but i love it man i love it i miss seeing my running backs wearing in the 30s i just miss it we need more of that so it's a good throwback there thank you cameron for bringing it back uh chase the well's got i've mentioned a i've mentioned yes chase soul uh the sole uh the sole brother um yeah he's had at least seven targets four straight games he was hurt start theory he's not hurt anymore he's their probably their wide receiver one and they got a I think a quarterback upgrade probably other than that I find a whole lot interesting and I'm not rushing to pick this guy up but a guy I just really want to have eyes on is Keegan Jones for UCLA 23 fantasy points he went over 100 yards receiving he's wide receiver eligible

he's kind of a hybrid he's moved back and forth from running back to wide receiver and I just know when they had B enemy we take over to see it's like well they're gonna have a guy be fantasy relevant right but where's it going to come from and kegan Jones is just a guy like he's super explosive he just hasn't mastered one of the positions. And I just kept thinking in my head like, this is McKinnon. This is McKinnon. Like if they get him involved in receiving game, this is McKinnon. And is it going to happen consistently?

I don't know because Rutgers was dealing with plenty of defensive injuries. But I wouldn't be surprised if they really made a priority to get him five targets every game going forward. Yeah, that's good. Another one I have, you know, he's only 4% owned, but Darius Laster from BYU. I'm sure you guys watch that BYU, Oklahoma State game. And he's clearly, last three games has taken over as the wide receiver won. They're moved him inside and outside. I mean, they're moving around trying to get him the ball.

And what, six catches, 132 yards, topped off, I think two touchdowns because he got one at the end of the game there and won that game for him. So Darius Lasseter, again, 4%. He's out there. He's got lots of targets. In BYU, they're trying to win the Big 12 and go to the playoffs. So they're going to be feeding them for sure. True Edwards is another guy just, you know, I think more of a stash guy or maybe a guy to wait and see on. But look, the last two weeks, 10 targets, eight receptions, 118 yards, played some really bad competition.

But look, they played a U-Tep defense this year, which is giving up eight yards per attempt. So it's 107th in the nation there. And they're giving up some explosives. So he could be a guy that could at least have a week of value for you this week. there. One other question here, and if you guys have anything else to add, you can. But has Jackson Meeks overtaken Trevor Pena's widersever 1? Foton, you saw him up close and personal. You have any thoughts on this? I like their touchdown dance in the end zone. I like that celebration.

Well, here's the thing. I don't think it's wide receiver 1 and Y receiver 2. It's just preferred outside starting X, which is Meeks, and the preferred inside slot receiver, which is Pena. it's not a matter of one of the other. Those two can absolutely coexist, no problem. But I feel good about Meeks having overtaken Hatcher as the primary outside threat. And you have, obviously, Trevor Pena, who I think he's right now, you know, he's right there in the conversation for like second team props All American for his reception overs. He's been pounding those out right as rain week in, week out. So, like, I will not be smirched the good name of Trevor Pena.

Whether he spells his name with a B or not, I don't care. That man is cranking out overs. He is smashing reception totals, and I, for one, love him. Hey, one other quick one I forgot to mention. This is a shout out to you for a tonne, is Trent Walker. Spirit Walker. I will give you even my body, Trent Walker. Yeah, that's right.

That's the cult. That's the cult. Okay. That's Spirit Walker. off of love. That's amazing. Great cult album. If you don't like the cult, what's wrong with you? Guys, get out there. Get on this.

There we go. Yeah. And look, if you're not going to pick them up in one of your CFF leagues, then just take the over every week on this guy. It feels like he's a good prop over. It seems that he's a hit in. Those two are my two favorites. And we've heard Trent Walker, I put him out there last week. Everybody's heard me talk about him. But those two guys we just mentioned every single week are crushing. You could do a lot worse than hitting both of those reception over.

It's great call, Josh. Yep. All right. And last position tight end. Proton, why don't you take it? All right. I feel like we've really covered tight end pretty well. Yeah.

There's only so many guys we can talk about. I'll go with Maliki Mataveo for UCLA. Has received at least five targets. and three of the past five weeks, just caught six of six for 104. Surprising the UCLA Bruins offense, right? They scored 35 points on a two-game win streak, beat Minnesota and Rutgers. Look at UCLA coming up.

We know they like to use the tight end. Like I said, he's been getting more and more targets, six, four, six. Hey, if you need somebody, you could do a lot worse than Meteveo. He's basically free. Yeah, that's good. J.D., what you got? I mean, Blake Bosma's not going to do it every week, but he's getting a handful of targets every game. And like said, Western Michigan offense is absolutely crushing.

So if you really need someone throwing Bosma hope for a touchdown. Dude, that dude almost beat me in the 50 teamer. I played him in the 50 teamer this week. And I was like, all right, I might have a shot here. And then Homeboy goes off six for 85, three touchdowns. I think had four catches for three touchdowns. I was like, I'm going to lose. And I needed this one.

You almost got bossed. Yes. Luckily, I had Kevin Jennings. And so he saved the day. That was a nice day for sure. No sweat with Kevin Jennings. He got right to work. Yeah.

Throwing bombs right out of the gate. And, you know, another, another shout out to six point passing touchdowns because that saved me this week. So the Lord's scoring system. You can't. Yes. For sure. All right. I love it.

Well, this is fun. We're at an hour and 10 minutes, so we should probably hop off before Trey kicks us off. Yeah, he's getting mad at us. It starts lagging. So, hey, thank you guys for joining us. I appreciate it. We will be back on Friday with our 20 props and 20 minutes. And looking forward to that show with you guys.

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