Fantasy Football Daily - College Fantasy Football Season-Long Props Special!
Episode Date: July 2, 2024It’s a Special Season-Long Props show for the College Fantasy Football All Access crew to kick off July. We are diving into betting props released for the Power 4 Conferences as we look at our favor...ite bets for those players who we think can lead their conference in passing, rushing, and receiving yards. Join us each week and take your game to the next level with CFF All Access. Make sure to follow us for more valuable college fantasy football content! Watch more dynasty content here - https://youtu.be/oXDWOVx2oD0?si=EaoB7hrP4a_2bt8V Where to find us: https://twitter.com/CFFguys https://twitter.com/CFFroton https://twitter.com/CFFChamps http://twitter.com/mbainbridgeCFF FantasyPoints Website - https://www.fantasypoints.com NEW! Data Suite - https://data.fantasypoints.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FantasyPts Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts TikTok - http://www.tiktok.com/FantasyPts #fantasypoints #cff #collegefantasyfootball #nfl #fantasyfootball #bestball #dynasty #dfs #nflbetting #fantasyfootballadvice Subscribe to FantasyPoints for FREE - https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/ Listen to all our podcasts here - https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/podcasts#/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcript
Discussion (0)
What?
Why you're shaking your head?
You're welcome.
Hello, this is a CFF All Access podcast.
I'm Eric Froton with Josh Chivalier and Michael Bainbridge.
And like I said on Twitter, put out the call.
We have some form of props to discuss.
We have conference leaders.
The Power 4 has been released over there on Bed Rivers.
So if it's going to be released, we're going to talk about it here now, aren't we?
Specifically, why these have been a pretty,
bankable profit center for the three of us, definitely myself and Michael over the past four years,
and not specifically as much at the conference stuff, even though that's always fun to wade
into.
But with the season-long player props who are also familiar with that dovetails so nicely
with college fantasy football.
And really, college fantasy was the genesis of how I got into the college football player
prop market.
I never really got in it.
I was never a gambler through 2018.
I had just played college fantasy football and then started writing for NBC when these kind of started
becoming to the forefront and when draft kings and Fandul and then prospects, they started really
getting into this market.
And it was a place that was the first season I hit 71%.
It was you wouldn't believe some of the stuff they had out then.
They took advantage of the fact that a lot of people didn't understand the markets and
understand really how to exploit them.
But a few people did.
And we did well.
Now, obviously, they try to be a little more standardized.
We'd have a lot more variance in terms of the lines.
You really have really, they kind of fall in Lops Glock step now in general.
But upon those opens, you can always get great value.
And with the season-long props last year, which is what we're really looking forward to in the next few weeks coming out, a major profit center.
In terms of our hit rate, myself, Michael, most profitable.
our hit rate for the past three years,
the best hit rate we have on anything,
including the Bulls,
which gets wild,
is the season-long props.
Now, as a couple of examples,
you know,
and I'll start with it,
and then I'll pitch it over,
Michael,
and kind of get it with him.
I know Josh wasn't as involved last year,
but just out of the gate,
there's variance in what we're going to see
in the season-long market between book-to-book.
It's not as standardized, right?
So when these are first out,
within that first week, you're going to see examples like Sam Hartman last year, is the one that I'll use.
Some books were pricing him on Wake Forest Sam Hartman, not Notre Dame Sam Hartman.
The good thing was, there were books that priced him properly.
So you're able to get, we were able to get, I believe, you know, almost an 800-yard spread.
I think it went from almost 2,600 to 3,400, somewhere in that range.
It might have been a little tighter than that.
but I know it was in the 600-yard spread range between the high and the low in terms of variance between books.
And that was, I mean, it was essentially both sides.
You're getting it free money.
It hits, it hits.
And it was perfect.
It worked as entertained.
Additionally, you had other stuff that were just simply way off base market-wise.
Dorian Singer, right?
Transcers from Arizona had, I believe, 1,100 yards, the pre-year.
be a season opposite of Jacob Cowling, Jed Fish's system, you know, comes right in, transfers
over to USC, and it's like, okay, he's going to be Jordan Addison this year. That did not happen.
He was priced up at, gosh, did he start around 900? I want to say 899 and a half. Is that correct,
Michael? Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, take it. So, I mean, no, sorry. He started at a thousand and a half.
God, he's $9.99.
Doran Singh, would he have like $300 last year?
Yeah, it was obscene.
And it was the same with Mario Williams.
The market was drastically overpriced on USC wide receivers.
Mario Williams, I believe he started, he might have been $7.99, at least $750.
At least $750, I know that he was at.
But I think he started $7.99, $7.49, $6.99.
and it just eventually he just went off the board.
Like you couldn't, you couldn't put it low enough for him with the influx of talent they had coming in,
especially Zachariah Branch, right?
What were some other examples off the top of your head, Michael, of, you know, value that we were able to extract from those season long?
I do have our handy-dandy spreadsheet that we track all this up right now.
I can just read them off.
There is some red there, but, you know, we most notable to me, and I think I'm always going to,
suggest this when doing season long props. Obviously, football injuries occur, right?
I don't think, unless there is a glaring mistake, I do not want to take an over on any
skill position player, as tempting as they might be. Yeah, we went over on like Malachi Corley,
and we just missed that last year, but I'm just, I'm looking at it, and it's like the Dorian singer,
Rock Bowers under 775 and a half, Johnny Wilson under.
I went over, a mistake, obviously, on Trey Benson.
As tempting as it is at 9.50 and a half, like, you know, he obviously didn't get the usage that I expected.
And then just another example, Mecca Buka, as tempting as it is Ohio State wide receiver.
These skill position players get injured far more often than quarterbacks.
You were going to hunt the unders, in my opinion, the skill position.
And you bring up Malachi Corley, what a great example, because he missed.
one game early in the season. I think he missed game two. And he was great. He was ripping it up
every other game in the season. And then finally, the final game, he has 50 yards in the first half.
We needed 30 more. I think it was like 32. We needed to beat the number. And he didn't play
the entire second half. It was like, oh my God, what are you doing to me?
What happened? I don't remember. Did he pull himself out? Or no? I do not recall. I think he did.
I think he did. I think he just went out and be like, oh, you know, suit it up one more time. And then that's a wrap. That's my impression, you know, because I saw him in the Senior Bowl. He won, you know, the wide receiver MVP for his team at the Senior Bowl. So he was, he was fine physically. And that was a month and a half later from when we're talking here. So, yeah, that was a heartbreaker. But it serves to go. That's an over. Some notable overs. Definitely Malik Navors. He was 899 and a half. Remember his?
where he was sitting. Michael, you were not a guy. I did take his over. He screamed over it.
Marvin Harrison originally, remember he was first listed at 999 and a half. And in Dorian Singer
territory, you kidding? That was a nice easy over as well. Xavier worthy.
Xavier worthy was 700. Yeah, there was more the number there. Again, I'm now contradicting myself
taking over on a skill position. But when you get a Xavier Worthy at 700 and an obscene number, right?
you have to take it.
And we did play both sides of Brock Bowers, too, because we got on Bet Rivers.
He was 775 open over on prize picks.
Bet Rivers, he was 5.50 and a half, I think I got it at.
I think it was where it was on the sheet.
Is that correct?
This is off memory.
Around there.
Yeah.
It was right in that fight.
And I'm like, dude, 550 for Brock Bowers.
Yeah, and we middled it because that's a pretty good spot to be.
And you're going to get that kind of spread occasionally where you,
won't get that the same way during the season. You won't get that huge hundreds of yards,
you know, variance of, you know, the season long. Also, what will happen is with running backs.
Keep in mind with running backs. Dept charts, guys, I mean, they're so fungible. Wide receivers,
you play three of them. They're out there all the time in college. You have three out there
constantly, right? Running back, you usually get one. You know, you get a rotation. Injuries, even way
more so than receivers. Sean Tyler, was it $899.99 and a half from Minnesota. Western Michigan transfer. Oh,
yeah, yeah. He's 180 pounds, scat back. He's going to go for 900 in Minnesota's up. Stop it. Stop it.
So those are just off top our heads, really, some of the incredible values. And I will leave you with KJ. Jefferson. Here's a good one for you, Mike. I was looking up some numbers the other day, and this popped out to me. We took KJ. Jefferson. You all.
open 10 and a half rushing touchdowns, 10 and a half rushing touchdowns for Katie Jefferson,
pounded the hell out of that over. Do you know, Mike, that Arkansas as a team only had nine
rushing touchdowns on the entire season, right? So, yeah, let's just say we invested heavily in,
in that particular play. And for very good reason. So it's all over the board. There's value all over the
Lord, don't leave any particular, you know, arena untouched when these do eventually come out for the season-long props.
And we'll certainly be there to discuss it.
I believe, now that we're at 935, it's probably time for our first break.
So we will take that right now.
Take it, Josh.
Yeah.
You know, I want to start off this show with just a quick question.
Josh had a question here.
Where are the prop bets to look at?
And so, you know, I think you guys are obviously the experts.
at the places to find these.
So where do you guys find the best prop bets?
Thank you, Mike.
Not draftings because they banned me.
I'm never giving them business again.
I can't give them business anymore.
Bet reverse is my,
that's my preferred choice,
even though now I went to go bet
one of the props that we're going to talk about
and I can get down 95 cents.
That's how much I can get down at this.
point. So we'll have to figure that out here in the next two weeks. Bet Rivers, if I'm just looking
at our sheet that me and Proton kind of track over the offseason, if you can access that Bet Rivers
was the most profitable for us. It just had the widest range or it had the widest range of players
available. I think Draft Kings and Vandal were kind of aligned with what players they released, but I'm
just looking at some Bet Rivers one. You've got the KJ. Jefferson that you mentioned. Will Howard,
I don't know was available elsewhere, but Bet Rivers.
I certainly know that Blake Shapen, which we got,
was not available anywhere outside of Bet Rivers.
So if that is available to you, that is my preferred option.
And they're slow on limiting you if you get to that point, too.
So highly suggest that app.
For the record, Michael, what was the bet that got you,
slash us limited on that again?
It was the Frank Harris one where we got the Intel about the
Frank Harris.
They were just doing ladders everywhere on this under,
just spam Frank Harris plays.
He is not playing the full game.
Stop it.
He's not doing it.
And finally,
literally it was a fervor where they had to hold them out because of it.
Because we whipped it up into a frenzy.
I mean, I'm sorry.
We went full ham on.
That was the intel we got.
He's going to get like one honorary drive in the bowl game against Marshall, which is never transpired.
And they're like, no, we can't.
It's going to cost the, everybody's going to pound it.
And we already did.
There was so much on it.
Now my new wife is going to be creating a BetRiver's Scow for us.
Hey, hey, you're my.
Come on now.
Moving on.
Move on from this line of discussion.
We don't even, we don't need advertisement for this show.
Why should you listen to the show?
Because the two people to my right below me have gotten canceled on these, these sites,
because they're so good at doing it.
Are you kidding me?
New Hampshire wouldn't allow prop betting on any college football past week eight
because it got absolutely destroyed at all five brick and mortar locations.
You couldn't place one.
You couldn't place a bet in New Hampshire.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
We'll see if we can this year.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So today, you know.
Great.
If you guys in the Northeast, which is a honey hole, you get New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire.
Like, boom, boom, boom.
If you're in any combination of that pocket, you know, that's, that's the money belt.
Man, if we could all live in Massachusetts, man.
Kansas.
In Kansas.
Oh, I live in San Diego.
What are you talking about?
Yes, S, S, S.
The cottage is in Rhode Island.
So I just went to the cottage.
for a while. That's awesome.
Family cottage.
100 years, by the way.
100 year anniversary this year for the Anderson.
That's my mom's side.
Family cottage for when we bought the deed.
So big family reunion on July 21st.
I get to stop by and say hi to the cousins from Ohio.
There you go.
A lot of Ohio State. A lot of Ohio State at the cottage where.
That's awesome.
Well, hey, tonight we have the season-long leaders of betting odds that have been
release like you guys are talking about here on bet rivers and so we picked kind of our favorites each
of these to talk about the ones that we thought we're going to be the most fun and so the first
one that we have up tonight is the acc passing leaders and so bet rivers has pretty much every
qb available in the conference up there and so i'm going to read some of these off to you
just so you know what we're going to be talking about here but passing yards leader for 24 25
ACC. They have Cam Ward as the top one at plus 400. You have Haynes King at plus 500.
Cade Clubneck at plus 600. You have Grace McCall at plus 700. Malik Murphy's at plus 900.
Tyler Shuck at plus 1,000. And then you have Preston Stone at plus 1,200.
Max Johnson at plus 1,500. Kyle McCord at plus 1,800. Nate Yarnel from Pittsburgh.
at plus 2000.
And then Ashton Daniels from Stanford at plus 2000.
Kiron Jones from Virginia Tech at plus 2,500.
Thomas Castellanos paired with our boy Bill O'Brien,
plus 2,500 at BC.
And then Hank Bachmeier at Wake Forest, plus 4,000.
And then Fernando Mendoza from Cal at plus 5,000.
And last, but certainly not least,
hopefully he will not be the starting quarterback for UVA.
Tony Musket at plus 5,000.
So, hey, what stood out to you guys when you guys looked at this?
What did you guys see as the best values here when you looked initially at the ACC passing leader props?
Yeah, well, what stood out to me and, you know, if our viewers are going to bet this and, you know,
hopefully they're obviously college fantasy football advocates.
I think the top tier of fantasy quarterbacks are probably not the options to go with here.
the Thomas Castellanos, the Cairo and drones of the world.
They're obviously dual threats.
They're going to score a lot of fantasy points,
but I highly doubt that they're, you know,
capable enough passers to lead this conference in passing yard.
So I had two choices, single doubt.
One, Tyler Shuck, Froton's favorite.
It's good odds.
He owes us money.
I mean, I'm happy to make money off him.
Well, yeah, this is his chance.
pay us back, right? It is.
10 to what odds, and obviously I'm going to promote the CFF site projections.
He is, he is the highest projected passer in the ACC for us in terms of passing yards.
This is all assuming he stays healthy, correct?
That's been his bugaboo the last two years is the shoulder and collarbone injuries, right?
This is a Jeff Bromoffice.
You're going to be top 10, top 20 in passing rate.
I just, you know, in my opinion, Louisville is going to be kind of revert back to being more past happy this year.
Obviously, they weren't with Isaac Arendo last year and George Jordan, right, a couple of a thousand yards backs.
You're not doing that this year with Maurice Turner and Don Cheney, right?
It's just not going to happen.
So I think, you know, Tyler Shuck, assuming he stays healthy.
you know, has a really good chance at these odds to leave the conference of passing.
If you go back to Jeff Brom at Purdue, just singling out the last two years,
Purdue finished 22nd in passing yards per game in 2022.
And then they were fifth in the country in passing yards in 2021.
So assuming Tyler Shuck stays healthy for a full 12-game slate, I see a more pass.
pass-happy Louisville team throwing the ball a lot more this year.
And I can see him leading the conference of passing yards.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've got for a time.
Tyler Shuck, like you said, when was the last time we had a Brom QB at 10 to 1, you know,
to lead a conference in passing, you know, something like that where like a tried and true
Brom QB?
Never a bad idea.
Yes, Tyler Shuck is not.
my favorite human being on earth.
We know this. That being
said, what are you going to say
here? I mean, why wouldn't you take him at
10 to 1? Also, I feel
like McCall, given
you know, it's NC State,
you know, all that, that could be a good shot,
but you hear so much
about, you know,
his backup, the sensational
freshman that
puts him out of it for me.
If I'm going long shot,
I'm kind of intrigued by the Latin lover
Fernando Mendoz, frankly.
Plus 5,000.
They throw more than you'd think, you know.
I can't.
But I'm happy to finally get to talk for the first time of the show about, like, a nickname, I really want to get stick.
Nate Rebel Yarnel.
It's got the Billy Idol cadence and everything with a Rebel Yarnel.
You are Mo, Mo, Mo, Mo.
So I'm very excited about Rebel Yarnel, just a nickname.
I don't.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, that'd be awesome if Kate Bell could come in the first year and just turn that offense around for sure.
The guy that I like here, and I don't know if this is going to be your second guy, Mike, or not, but Preston Stone at Plus 1,200, I think coming into the conference, right?
I think he threw for almost 3,200 yards last year.
And now he's coming into the ACC.
they have good, you know, I think people are projecting to do really well in the ACC coming over.
I could see him even having to play a lot more than throwing a lot more in the ACC than they had to against the schedule last year in the AC.
And, you know, Tyler Shuck, I love that too.
I think if he says healthy, then he's probably the leader.
But if he doesn't say healthy, which he hasn't, then I think Preston Stone is a guy that could absolutely come in there at plus 1,200 and lead.
this conference.
Yeah.
He was going to be my second choice.
A couple of things just with him.
I was just looking at Phil Steele earlier today and just something that I read with him
and SMU and his model, whatever that is.
But he actually projects SMU to give up a touchdown more per game defensively this
year obviously would help the SMU offense, right,
having to get maybe track meets and shootouts there.
obviously would help Preston Stone in that aspect.
But Josh, I kind of want to ask you this question, kind of pertaining to CFF more.
What would help Preston Stone is a legitimate bona fide wide receiver one.
And I know you, you subscribe to Bill Mbody and SMU and on three or whatever.
Any intel there as to who that might be, if anybody, right?
I mean, I think they're really hoping that it's Jordan Hudson.
I think it's Jordan Hudson robust for them as far as a wide receiver won right now in that offense.
I mean, they have, they do have a lot of depth at wide receiver, but they need Jordan Hudson to step up and do more than just catch Red Zone passes, basically.
So boring answer, but I think that's their best shot, you know.
And, you know, look, I think Preston Stone can absolutely throw for 3,500 yards.
Drake May led the conference last year and passing yards at 3,600.
I don't see anybody necessarily unless it's Shuck get above that necessarily.
But yeah, Jack Plummer too, the crazy stat looking at it from last year, 3,200 yards passing.
And again, like this isn't even a team that really leaned on him that much and he wasn't that good.
It's as light as you're going to get in terms of passing volume.
Yeah.
So I just think, I think Shuck's the easy one.
And like to get him at plus 1,000 and then press a stone at plus 1,200,
They seem like really good odds, which is why, yeah, I really like this one because it's like you can narrow in our couple guys and really, I think, hit a home run here.
Yeah.
Wouldn't go deep diving here with the ACC, too, like with the Latin lover for Anandomintos.
No.
If I would say long shotish, Ashton Daniels would have some intrigue to me, but I like Elijah Brown too much behind him.
And I feel like, you know, they want him to get the.
job and Daniel's too insist, but like that Troy Taylor off, it intrigues me.
Yep.
That's good.
Okay.
Our next prop here is the SEC receiving leader prop.
And so we have our boy Luther Bird in the third from Missouri.
He's at plus 275 leading the way here.
Antoine Wells Jr.
Plus 650.
Trey Harris at also plus 650, both of those from Ole Miss.
Dominic Love it, who I always want to say Missouri.
But he's at Georgia at plus 800.
And then Theo Weiss at Missouri at plus 1100.
Squirrel White at plus 1,600.
Isaiah at Bond at plus 1,600.
Eugene Wilson, a plus 2,000.
Jeremy Bernard at plus 2,000.
Silas Bolden, which is an interesting one, at plus 2,200.
Dionne Burks at plus 2,500.
And then we have Kyron Lacey at plus 5,000.
Chris Brosell at plus 4,500.
And I skipped a few.
But those are the main ones on the board.
I don't want to bore everybody with the Kobe princesses of the world.
So what do you guys got?
What are some of your favorites on here?
Because I think there's some juicy ones that could potentially lead the SEC and receiving here.
Well, that's the thing about the SEC is there's so much talent.
There's so many plausible options to choose from, you know?
And you don't want to take the favorite and burden.
Like, what's the fun in that?
But then beyond that, there's so many intriguing guys.
Like, okay, Bond plus 1,600.
All right.
Eugene Wilson, I mean, you know I love him.
We've talked about him nauseam on this show.
You know, 20 to 1, pretty damn intriguing, but that schedule is tough for Florida.
That being said, like down the board, there's a couple guys.
You mentioned Kyron Lacey at plus 5,000.
I love the LSU.
I love the LSU value.
plus 5,000.
I'm a Xavieron Thomas guy.
I mean, full-throated supporter of Xavieron Thomas.
I will, I've said it before and I'll say it again.
I think he's the number one wide receiver there.
He's better than Lacey.
I think he's better than C.Denos.
He is the guy I am backing in the LSU wide receiver room.
I think that's in hot take territory.
But I love him and he's 40 to 1.
Also, okay, two quarterbacks through for over 4,000
yards combined, you know, all total last year. Penix and Knicks. One, the next in line,
third most passing yardage was Carson Beck. You're going to put Colby Young at plus 6,000.
Yeah.
Where's the look? I'm intrigued. There could be a Georgia guy. I know they've spread it around,
but if McConkey wasn't hurt, you would have blown it up last season. Who's saying we can't get
an alpha to emerge out of that room and be able to, if Luther Burden gets hurt, at least compete for
that there's going to be it's a big pie it's bobo's offense you know they're powerful they're
going to smoke teams i i just think that's there's some there's some value i think anything can happen
in the cc and there's so much talent i i like the idea of throwing 10 bucks on colby young and
getting 600 you know 20 and getting 12 stuff like that i think you can have some fun here with the
cc that's that's really the enjoyment is some of these long shots yeah do you feel like let me
actually this, Froton with Zavion Thomas at 40 to 1, and then you got
Kairn Lacey at 50 would do one.
I mean, throw 10 bucks on both of them.
And like, it's a good shot that one of them leads the conference and
receiving. I mean, they had two and what, the top three or four last year in
the SEC between Brian Thomas and obviously neighbors.
And you got Noose in there, Gary Neussmeyer, like, what's the problem here?
And there's continuity, you know, it's, you've got year three of Kelly.
There's a lot to like about that LSU.
room. And again, you know, having a Georgia, the only one we have, right? Oh, we got Lovett at plus
800. Okay, fine. Yeah. I like Dominic. Love it. Just fine. But how how high is he going in fantasy
drafts in our best balls, right? Yeah. And is he a priority? No, I'd say Young's going before him.
Yeah. And I think, I think it's interesting, too, you have Brian Thomas and Malik neighbors that were both
over 12 yards per target last year, right? And obviously, we know that, um, J.
and Daniels can throw the deep ball, loves to throw the deep ball.
But Garrett Newsmeyer is also a really good, you know, deep ball throwers.
So, I mean, you could totally see these guys both get a high yards per target.
I can see this translating a lot, especially with Joe Sloan coming back there, you know,
as the QB coach and offensive coordinator.
So, yeah, I really like that a lot.
It's insulting that we don't have Nick Anderson list.
I know.
And we have Jule Feroke and Dionne Burr.
I'm a very good.
And Dr.
Anthony,
who may not even play this.
And Andreel Anthony,
what is going on?
Right.
Nick Anderson,
10 touchdowns isn't good enough
for you last year?
He's a redshirt freshman.
Okay.
No, no, that's cool.
No, I got to listen.
Bat Rivers, man.
Bat Rivers.
What's you got,
Mike?
Jared's got love it at wide receiver 71 and Young at 105.
Thank you.
Okay.
In June 80p.
Yep.
But 800 plus 800 to plus 6,000 is the difference here
in terms of,
of, you know, odds. So I feel like that's.
Mine, I don't, I don't have any, like, plays per se here. I kind of want to relate it to
CFF a little bit. Not that these are, you know, end-all be all or anything, but
Antoine Wells and Trey Harris being at the same odds, just something notable, right?
I think it's good for, I think you guys both know how I feel about Ole Miss this year.
I think it's probably good that they're at the top of the leaderboard per se for, you know,
for any Jackson Dart shares that you have.
The other one, and I wanted to ask for a time.
Are you taking Jackson Dart from me now when I was taking him in the seventh round for the first three champion series,
and now you're taking him in the third?
Are you taking him from me now?
You have to adapt with these.
Unbelievable.
I'm just saying.
I came out here and drove that bus.
I'm the reason why he went from seventh round to third round, okay?
And you're taking it from me, Michael.
This is not Jordan James in the second.
But I am going to grill you on some.
in here, Proton. So here we go. I deserve it now. I threw a shot. I got to take one.
We have spread the love for Eugene Wilson in past episodes, yet you're going up in like the 10th and 11th round around that range. I don't know exactly. And taking Elijah Badger now.
12th round for Elijah Badger, yes. Can you go into the rationale quickly? I just like Elijah Badger as a player. He's a good player. His Yak-yard. He average almost 10.
10 yards after catch last season.
And I stood on the sidelines for Washington, Arizona State.
Elijah Badger almost ran me over.
I'll try to find the clip, all right?
He almost ran me over on a play down the sideline on a beautifully caught, you know,
a little hole shot in between cover three.
And he's running full bore on me.
And I got, I looked dead in the eyes, Elijah Badger.
And I was like, I don't want to get hit by this guy.
And as you know, he's he's fully grown.
Like you look at him.
He looks the part.
He looks like Percy Harbin and pads.
It's sort of like muscular, like 6-1.
Brute, like so hard to tackle, elusive, strong.
You know, like pretty good in terms of his routes.
Like I just think there's a world where he's a day two wide receiver in the NFL.
And if he's going to Florida with an established role like Eugene Wilson has as the underneath
Rondale Moore, Malachi Corley-esque sort of a role.
Well, there's got to be somebody who plays the stretcher role,
and it's going to be Elijah Badger.
They're paying him to do it.
He will get opportunities.
Billy Napier, as we've talked about,
has to throw a little bit.
I mean, he has to.
So I like Elijah Badger.
12th round, give him to me.
Give him to me.
I'll let, and again, I mean, I was getting Wilson in the sixth round,
and now he's going to throw it.
I just can't do it.
Can't do it.
So here's the key to drafting with Eric Froeton in CFF for Dynasty.
He's going up and getting players that he's almost got run over by Elijah Badger.
And he's going to draft quarterbacks that he's caught passes from in the first round of dynasty drafts in Julian Say.
That's right.
I can be influenced by access.
I can.
I mean, I'm sorry.
I laid eyes on Elijah Badger.
Not a lot of dudes look like him.
A lot of times you look at guys and they look the part or they don't.
Like, as I said, Miller Moss looks like Beavis.
His body type, everything.
He's got short legs, he's got a long torso.
He literally looks like Beavis out there.
So I have zero Malmash shares.
That's amazing.
Elijah Badger, another prop superstar last year.
They just kept listening up at like 50, 60 yards repeatedly last year.
We'll take it.
We will take it.
That's awesome.
That offense, you know, we were getting out of Arizona State besides Elijah Badger.
But yes.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think one of the last one for me that's just intriguing is Jeremy Bernard,
just because I don't even know who the wide receiver two is going to be in that offense.
And I don't know if Milro can support them enough to lead the conference in receiving yards.
But, you know, unless, I mean, Ryan Williams could certainly come on the steam and just be a killer from day one.
but Jeremy Bernard to me is the only sure thing in that offense.
A plus 2,000 might be worth it if you don't want to go after the LSU wide receivers there.
But hey, we're going to take a quick break and come back and go through the rest of our season long props here.
All right.
We have next up, we got the Big Ten passing leaders props.
And we have Dylan Gabriel at plus 200.
Our boy Miller Moss, who Bobby over here, he's saying,
Mila Moss won't be the starter come week three.
Jada Maya will be that guy.
And then we have Will Rogers at plus 550.
Ethan Garber's at plus 550 as well.
Will Howard a plus 1,000.
Drew Alar at plus 1,000.
Look, there's a plus 1,800.
It's incredible.
Yeah.
Tyler Vindyka plus 1,200.
Next up, Eric Roton made this bet.
I take credit for that.
This is Julian Sayan.
At least 800.
Hey, if you didn't know, Froton caught a pass from him at the Elite 11.
Did you?
Did anybody know that?
No, I wasn't in Elite 11.
It was in the Carl's Ben.
Oh, my bad.
My Ben.
It was after the league 11.
I said out of the session.
I'm like, I got to catch some passes from this guy.
There we go.
There we go.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
I'm leading on here.
God, guys, for Dylan Gabriel, I know.
I hate taking favorites in this, but man, it's going to be tough to beat him.
You know what I mean?
I don't know. Maybe I was looking at this. The one I could make a case for, and it's only because probably, I'm probably the only one making the case. I can't help it. But I love Tyler Van Dyke, as we know, plus 1, 200, like 12 to 1.
Decent, decent shot. You know, it's decent enough odds. We're like, all right, I can throw 25 bucks on this, get a decent, really bucks, whatever.
And there's a path with Phil Longo's offense. And they played.
They played way quicker than you expected Wisconsin to play last year,
at top 30 rate in terms of play per second,
and way more of a passing offense than you expected.
You know, with Maluoski going down, that didn't help
because they had to ride that slow, overrated Braille and Allen.
But now that he's gone, you know, they can whip up that tempo a little bit.
I could see that.
But beyond that, guys, who is there anybody you can look at
that you feel good about it.
I can't say Will Howard is perhaps plausible at 10 to 1,
but this is Chip Kelly running the offense.
I know it's Ryan Day's offense,
but still Chip Kelly run the offense.
It's Quintan, it's Trevion, people's come in in the third, you know, late.
I mean, God, I'm curious to hear what you guys think,
especially Will Rogers at plus 550.
Get out of here.
What?
What? I think that's what's more interesting to me.
Who thought Will Rogers the third most likely guy here to lead the league in passing yard?
What are you talking about?
And then, you know, you got to love.
Yeah, yeah, millimass.
Pass 3.50, yeah.
So.
Yeah, we follow that up, Mike.
I can.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't have that impression.
I mean, Miller Moss is the only one that comes close to me in the projections.
I guess there, I have a, if you, I'm kind of with.
If he sticks around, do my ava is getting shot.
I'm with Bobby here in the comments that, like, I think at some point,
Maya is going to get a shot here.
So if you take Miller Moss out of the equation, my projections,
there's a 500-yard difference between Dylan Gabriel and the next closest
quarterback here, so I would just avoid this all together.
And it's so Gabriel, and Jared, Jared makes the point.
Only way Rogers wins is if Washington's game script is so horrendous
it forces them the past 50 times a game.
I will argue if they're that bad, then they just turn the page to DeMond Williams
and get them some reps and say, bye-bye, Will Rogers, it was a good run.
You're out of here.
That's the other factor, too, where it's like, turn the page, move to the future.
What are we getting out of him next year?
I know we're getting out of DeMond and Washington's going on the Big Ten.
But you're right, Jared.
You're right.
Yeah, it's super interesting, too.
You know, if Will Rogers had a decent offensive line,
then you can make a case for him with the receivers that he's got.
But, you know, at this point, yeah, they're going to be taken.
They're going to be taken them out and put DeMond Williams in by week seven or eight, I think.
It's drastically different.
The entire team is drastically different.
It's just, it's asking a lot.
Yeah.
Tyler Van Dyke, I do like that at plus 1,200.
I mean, I do think that is an interesting one.
I think particularly if Will Pauling is what he was last year, right,
and they really hit their stride in the bowl game.
But yeah, anything else here is like really tough to go, like you said, Mike,
like it's Dylan Gabriel and then the field.
And you don't feel very good about the field at all.
I mean, to me, it would be TVD next.
because I think we have them projected at like 3,200 passing yards,
and we had Dylan Gabriel, about 3,500.
But Gabriel, I mean, when you get two receivers,
Tess Johnson and Evan Stewart that are going in the top two rounds of drafts,
like I think that says enough about what we think about.
If Purdue had better receivers, like more known,
like it's still technically an air raid, right?
Yeah.
Like at plus 35 or 35 to 1 odds.
Like that's that's a long, long shot that I would say.
But yeah, we have no idea who's the starters there.
To me, yeah.
And to me, honestly, like insert a better quarterback than Curtis Rourke at Indiana.
And actually, I mean, I would be intrigued by that
because I do think that like Kirk Signetti knows how to like turn even a bad quarterback
into a good passing offense.
But, you know, we just don't know the thing going up.
the big 10. It's just too much risk, but I do think in the future that's one that could be
interesting. So, okay, Big 10 passing leaders there. Next up, we got the ACC receiving leader.
So we got our boy X, Xavier Strepo from Miami at plus 300 leading the way, Jordan Moore from Duke
at plus 400, KC, Kevin Concepcion from NC State at plus 500, Chocolby George at plus 800,
Eric Singleton at plus 1100.
Alec.
I, man.
Eric Froton,
give me some help here.
Io Manor.
Iommanner.
I, O'Manyar.
Okay.
Yes, there we go.
Plus 1100.
Antonio Williams, plus 1,500.
I'm going to go through some of these pretty quick.
Chris Bell and Colin Lacey from Louisville at plus 3,500.
Taylor Moran at plus 3,000.
And then you got Malik Benson at plus 5,000.
And then Maliebenson at plus 5,000.
And then Malice.
Lockheye Fields at plus 5,000.
I skipped quite a bit there.
So if you guys want to hit on any of those, you can.
But those are the big ones that stuck out to me.
Yeah.
Anything stick out to you guys here as far as intriguing bets?
Sure.
Well, this is the other one of mine that I chose to captain amongst the group.
So I'll take this one as well.
Strepo, I mean, you love it.
But you just don't take favorites in these sort of things,
unless it's frankly the Dylan Gabriel situation we're talking about.
That's pretty much the textbook example of the favorite.
But my favorite of this top six, I like Io Manor, as we discussed, at 11 to 1.
And I sort of alluded to a little bit with Daniels, who I'm not sold on as a quarterback.
But in terms of the volume and the potential for I.O. Manor to break and be the top.
top dog here in the ACC, I think in 11-1 odds.
That's a pretty decent shot of this group.
We've talked about Singleton in terms of the schedule that you're dealing with,
the Georgia Tech can't take him because that schedule.
I like Chikobi Georgia a lot, but you got Sam Brown in town and Restrepo's there.
Like, he pretty much is better off avoiding Miami.
Jordan Moore plus 400, not with a changeover in staff and New Cupid,
just everything's different there.
It's too much.
Kevin Concepcion, 42 totes last year in terms of running the ball.
Noah Rogers in town, just like too many other factors for him.
So there's nothing I can really hold on to that's solid amongst the top group.
So I do think with that the lighting Travis Hunter on fire.
And then you saw IOManner's role grow and grow and establish himself as a bona fide one.
he could be force-fed targets.
And that's the situation that I want to invest in.
So I am backing that.
Down the board, it's hard not to, along the same lines as Tyler Shuck.
You got Colin Lacey and Chris Bell at 3,500.
Well, hey, if one of them gets the David Bell, the Rondale Moore, usage share that we saw,
well, how are they 35 to 1 in this?
How am I going to throw down 10 bucks and get 350 out of the?
these two guys. You know what I mean? I'm in.
And what's interesting? Give me my 95 cents, Bainbridge on Unbound Bed Rivers.
Yeah. Throw it down. You take half and I'll take half. It's interesting too because
you had Restrepo and George, right? I think Rushepo had a thousand yards last year and then
George at 800. But they were like two of the top wide receivers, two of the top three wide
receivers in the conference last year. So we're not talking about like a high bar, like a threshold
that these guys have to cross in order to lead the ACC in receiving here.
Bainbridge, what you got?
Yeah, so A.O. Manor is the top projected receiver for me in terms of yard.
So I am in agreement with Eric on that one.
We did not talk pre-show about that.
We did not talk pre-show.
I would, and also agreement, same lines as Tyler Shuck, right?
Louisville receiver.
somebody like we don't know who it is but hell jeff brown turned an iowa wide receiver
into probably the leading white out in the big 10 in charlie jones so um somebody will emerge
between colin lacey chris bell who that is we're not sure at this point um malachi fields is the
one that sticks out to me probably you know at i mean what all that malik washington did was
lead the entire country last season in targets, right?
Like, do I think Malachi Fields is going to replicate that necessarily?
No.
Great call, Michael.
But at plus 5,000, like, you've got to at least sprinkle that, right?
And he's probably, I don't have the best one on the board.
Probably the best.
Yeah.
I don't have the ADOT pulled up, but I guarantee it was higher than Malik Washington's last
season.
So if he gets the target share, right?
then there's a clear path to him to him doing that.
And I know Eric believes this, too, we are not believing in Chris Tyree this season.
Stop it.
Just stop it.
Keep drafting up, Josh.
Yeah, dude, that field is amazing.
And honestly, Malik Benson and plus 5,000, too.
Again, 10 bucks to win 500.
It's like, I mean, is there a path?
We know they're going to throw.
They got DJU.
Their top two guys are gone.
I mean,
Stranger Things have happened at 50 to one shots.
You know what I mean?
Those are a couple of smoking 50 to one shots.
I love the long shots in the ACC.
I think it's,
I picked,
this is one of my pick.
This is why,
because it's like,
man,
you can get some pretty live shots out of this
for short money.
And if you hit,
you hit big.
Yeah.
I mean,
that,
yeah.
nailed it. I think everything at the bottom of the board.
If I was betting this, I would
Colin Lacey and Chris Bella,
the two that I would take. Same thing with the LSU
wide receivers. It's good odds.
You know, you put 10 bucks on each one.
35 to 1.
I mean, that's 350 bucks right there.
So, yeah,
any of those, Malachi Fields is another one.
That's a really good bet as well.
So I love all those. And for us
and our projections, I think,
you know, there's not, I think,
Malachi where I have like 900 yards.
And, you know, we only have at 979, so it's not a huge difference, even though he's a leading wide receiver in the ACC.
There's not a huge difference between the two.
No, it just isn't.
It just isn't.
This is a very, this is a right market.
And I'll guarantee you this.
Like, this is Bet Rivers, as we've talked about.
This market will not look like this when Draft Kings opens up.
Correct, Michael?
Say that again.
I was distracted by the soccer game.
Damn it, Bruno.
No, I was saying, this is Bett Rivers.
here this is an open but these aren't you're not going to get these lines by the time the
season rolls around and when draft kings opens their markets not a chance and you're not
going to have malachi fields most likely on draft kings either that's just a guess but um just that speaks
to the wide range of possibilities too on bet rivers versus the other sites yeah absolutely
selection matters yep all right well we're going to take a quick break here um and then come
back and we're going to finish up the last two conferences um
Jared asked, I don't know if he answered it, Jared, while you were on, but 35 to one odds for Chris Bell.
They're at Louisville.
So good odds there, particularly because I'm just not a big Jacorri Brooks fan personally.
I think Chris Bell's got this enough on Jacori Brooks.
Enough is enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, when you run like a 47, 840, you're just not going to be able to do it.
So, all right.
Big 12 rushing leader is what we are at right now, though.
And so no surprise, shocker.
Ollie Gordon leads away at plus 400, but he's also tied with Devin Neal at plus 400 as well.
Tage Brooks at plus 500, DJ Giddens at plus 500.
Man, you, I mean, you just see the star power, right, in the big 12 so far.
RJ Harvey Harvey at plus 500, CJ Donaldson at plus 850.
Mackay Bernard, you have at plus 1,500.
Avery Johnson quarterback, Kansas State at plus 1,500.
Cam Cook, a plus 2,000.
Jaylen Glover at plus 3,000.
And then I'm going to skip a few here, and you guys can address them later if you want.
But Abu Sama the third at plus 5,000, Dilan Hayden at plus 5,000, Parker Jenkins at plus 6,000.
And Cameron Scatigamo at plus 6,000.
And then one more I'm going to hit on here is Corey Kiner at plus 8,000.
I am the one that picked this one.
And while there is so much star power at the start.
top of this conference. I think there's also
some potential value
lower on the board as well.
But what's stuck out to you guys
before I kind of share my thoughts?
Go for it, Mike.
Avery Johnson, being higher
odds than L.J. Martin,
Abu Sama, Corey Kiner.
Right? So you're not going to touch that one, obviously.
I mean, Corey Kiner is the obvious one that
sticks out to me.
Yeah. I mean, Cincinnati bringing what,
I believe, all five starters back?
along the offensive line, right?
This is still, you know, we kind of talked about it with some other players like Tyler Schock.
Like, this is still a Scott Satterfield offense, right?
And he produces high-end fantasy running backs, right?
And, you know, he's now got himself ingrained in the Cincinnati program, right?
This is his, you know, second or third year, I forget now.
But, like, I mean, why not?
I think he's the clear-cut RB-1 there, already crossed the third.
thousand yards last season. I mean, you know, better quarterback play just helps the offense all
around. And I can't believe those odds, to be honest, with Cory Kiner. This is a thousand
yard back last season. And he's behind, uh, Kali Conley and Dallinadden. That, that one doesn't
make sense to me. So that one obviously stuck out there. Richard Reese is in front of them.
KJ. Jefferson. Yeah, it's it's, it's unbelievable.
Smith.
Jonathan Smith.
What is going on right now?
Right?
It's just, yeah, that's another ridiculous line.
Also, C.J. Donaldson, plus 850.
Really?
Jahe White, nowhere to be found.
No, no, nothing.
No, okay, all right.
That's cool.
Plus, a plus 850-ish.
Yeah.
But it does speak to the depth of the Big 12 of having just all these solid running backs.
Abu Sama plus 5,000 sticks out is like, okay.
I mean, there's a world, you know, where that works out, given he had had the big game and then wasn't, didn't pop.
But like, dude, it's plus 5,000.
L.J. Martin, as you mentioned, Camp Cook, 20 to 1.
Hey, all right.
Yeah.
I was surprised to see Jalen Glover and Micah Bernard relatively close in terms of, you know, plus 1,500, plus 3,000, with Bernard having a little bit of the edge, you know, as we are parsing through the depth charts.
interesting to see how that's, you know, framed on here.
I mean, particularly, I will say this.
I mean, Bernard could certainly be the back that's better in fantasy, right, produces more.
But a world in which he outrushes Jalen Glover is a very, I can't see it.
I mean, that's not really Bernard's strength, right?
Like, he's receiving back more.
And I will say that Steve Bartle from Utah 247 did pick Jalen Glover as his breakout player
the are one of his breakout players this year.
And not saying that Jaylon Glover is going to do it, but I just think Bernard is not the guy
that's going to necessarily lead the team in rushing.
It's going to be more of an RBBC.
I'm not saying Jack Jalen Glover.
He also said that about Quentin Jackson last season, which I did too.
So.
But that's a problem.
Yeah, we all did.
But I'll tell you, I, watching those guys, Utah, watching those games, I thought
Michael Bernard was the best back all around in that room.
Now, Glover, obviously, we heard all about him in camp,
and he's a bigger guy.
He's going to be able to handle the interior better.
Bernard's good at following blocks, though, even though he's smaller.
He has a way where he finds that daylight, he's smooth,
he seems pretty elusive.
Oh, he's an excellent pass catcher.
It's like, I could see a world where, even though he's on the smaller side,
for what we think of of a Utah back, he could do that.
But like you're saying, will he lead it?
didn't rush. No, no, no, he's not going to lead any, any, anything in rushing.
It's going to be from a fantasy perspective.
It's the full package. It's the all-purpose skill set.
But I wouldn't expect him to be able to get that full heavy duty load to be.
It would be glover or nothing if you're taking somebody from Utah just because of the profile.
Yeah, yeah. And I put this on there here, this prop because of Corey Kiner and Abusama.
I mean, those are the two that stuck out to me.
I mean, and I'm not saying.
Abbasam is going to get 250 carries, but, like, in the heyday of this offense with Matt Campbell, four times, right, between David Montgomery and Brees Hall, they gave their back 250 carries.
And so there's a world in which, with Abbasim's explosiveness, that he can get 220 carries and, you know, average a decent amount.
And so I thought that odd was pretty good.
And then Corey Kiner, we already talked about him.
And so, yeah, I think this board sets up pretty nicely.
I mean, obviously, yeah, the top guys, but nothing really there to go after.
So I'll give you, looking at the board, I give you guys four options to choose, which four players.
And I want to see if we're in agreement on this one for Big 12.
Oh, who would we?
You get four players, yeah.
Oh, I think I would go, Ollie Gordon, DJ Giddens.
Some.
I'm kinder, right?
Yeah.
Those four.
Yeah.
Right?
And we're not, I don't think, we've talked about it adenosium.
We're probably not taking Tage Brooks, right?
Yeah.
You think Texas Tech, regardless of which quarterback you think it's going to be
Wilhammed or Baron Morden, right?
Not going to tie Fox books.
Yeah.
RJ Harvey, not touching it.
Kevin Neal, I don't know.
I don't, I don't, it's tough to see him replicating.
But he's a favorite.
He's the same odds as Ollie Gordon.
Right.
You're not, you're not crazy.
Right.
So those are the four.
that I think we're all in agreement the top four,
go with Giddens, Gordon, Kiner, and Sama.
Yeah.
I do wish Cook was lower.
I wish he had more of like Sammas odds
because I do think he's a guy that could do absolutely.
Cook's intriguing.
Was it, Amani Bailey that had 1,200 last year?
Yeah.
Cook is intriguing.
Yeah.
So plus 2000 though, it's like, it's not 20 to 1,
but he should be probably more down
in the Abu Samma.
I would flip those if I was doing the odds.
And I would like cook a lot more.
Yeah, it's not it's not, it's not Sama kinder insulting is what it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Our last one for the night here is we had the Big Ten rushing leader.
And we have Kyle Menangai at Plus 500 who led the conference in rushing last year, squeaking out.
a Michigan running back, Blake Quorum.
And then we have Donovan Edwards at plus 600 here.
And then Roman Hemby at the University of Maryland at plus 900.
And then T.J. Hardin, plus 900.
Quinn Johnson, both at plus 1100.
Darius Taylor at plus 1,400.
Caleb Johnson at plus 1,400.
Lechon Williams at plus 1,400.
Ketron Allen and Nick Singleton, both at plus 1,600.
You can see a theme here.
they just picked three running backs from the same team and gave him the same odds.
And then Jordan James at 3,500.
Noah Woodington is ahead of him at plus 3,000.
And then, you know, Nathan Carter at plus 5,000.
And then K. Ron Lynch Adams at plus 5,000 as well.
I think those are the main ones.
Woody Marks at plus 6,000.
And then I'll stop there.
You guys have anything that sticks out to you?
Woody Marks being at 60 to 1.
Not that I mean, you could sprinkle it, I suppose.
I wouldn't, it's just not one that I would necessarily go for,
but him being behind like a Kalon Black, right?
Like, who's going to outrush each other, right?
It's going to be.
Oh, it's Michigan State running backs?
Yeah, right.
Devin Mockaby, no.
I would take Woody Marks over him.
But, I mean, look, the Darius Taylor at 14 to one odds, just it stands out, right?
He stays healthy.
He was getting 27 carries a game when he was healthy.
Again, same with Tyler Shep, right?
It's the health factor with Darius Taylor.
I mean, that's it, right?
System is proven.
He's essentially proven at this point.
So at 14 to 1 odds.
Like, he's my highest projected running back of the group.
So for me, it would be Darius Taylor or Kalmanangai who obviously has the highest odds on this.
BetRiver is among the big type running backs.
So I think those two options and then just, I don't know, maybe you guys will speak on it,
but no winning to the head of Jordan James makes zero sense.
I got a question.
Where's Fegan?
Where's Kaelin Fegan in this?
Okay.
Is he even out there?
Is even listed or is it further down the board?
Somebody else would have to look that up because I may not be able to see it.
Remember, I can't, it being in Illinois, I cannot see.
No problem.
It's more than.
Yeah, okay, that's what it is.
That's what it.
Okay, no problem.
That's like, God, Fagan has a good, such a good point.
And somebody, Shane, our boy Clemson Shane mentioned Fegan, too.
So shout out to him.
We're at the same page.
That being said, my favorite here is Chesma Lucey.
I think if he was better than Braylon Allen last year,
Braylon Allen stinks, but then he got hurt.
I think he could take that room over.
It's not going to be that particularly hard.
Tui Walker's there, but fine.
if he wins that at 22 to 1, which I think he will.
He's got a damn good shot.
I think they could ride him pretty hard because he's,
he ran like a 10-6 or something, 100.
He's explosive when he gets the opportunities.
He's got the size.
Every time I watch Chesma Lucey run,
I'm like, why are they giving the ball to Raylan Allen?
This guy has so much more in him.
And perhaps now under Phil Long,
go, like we talked about Van Dyke, maybe year two, they take the cuffs off of them at 22 to 1.
I can't help but like that.
And then at the same time, if one of the Oregon backs just takes the full load, I mean, Jordan James, 3,500 plus 3,500, Noah Woodington's ahead of him.
Yeah.
Like, wow, that's surprising.
We're watching Jordan James go in second round in some places.
I happen have Jordan James shares and what have you.
and no winnington goes, but it's like, that's a surprising listing to me to see him.
One, both of them in the 35, 30 to one range, two, Weddington listed ahead of James.
Yeah, totally.
I like that Ches Malucie call.
I'll say to back that up on the Cover 3 summer school, they just did on Wisconsin.
Like, they called out Ches Malucie as the guy that could end up as an all-conference player
who might not be on the preseason team.
So they're definitely hyping them up a little bit there.
I don't, not to be too disrespectful, but I think Chesman Lucey got injured while we were doing this podcast.
Oh, yeah.
Like three straight ears.
I come on.
He was healthy.
That's why he's 22 to want in here.
I know, I know.
But my whole thing is that like, you're the one of two Tyler Shuck healthy, Mike.
I just say like, I don't know.
like Phil Longo, he will incorporate multiple running backs.
Like that's kind of been in his MO.
This is not Wisconsin of old, remember?
So at those odds, I'm not disagreeing you with that.
This is more a CFF thing.
But like I see Tawi Walker being more involved than, you know,
the Ches Maloosie drafters would think.
I mean, Brian Wynellon got the load down the stretch last year as soon as
Malusi went down.
He was the guy.
Yeah.
I mean, I would say Towie Walker, this is a.
ability to break tackles is very similar to old kind of Phil Longo back.
So, but we'll see.
Yeah, I mean, Darius Taylor, to me, is the obvious choice here.
And then also taken, you know, pairing Jekins and Henderson, if you want to do that and
put some money down on both of those because one of, you know, Treviant Henderson inevitably
gets injured and Juckins just takes off and just runs away with it, right?
Or I think the same thing could happen with Nicholas Singleton and Ketron Allen is that one
of those guys potentially gets hurt.
And then the other guy, you know, could take over.
Jordan James, I love that call too.
Those are all very good calls.
Frankly, that's probably what ends up happening.
Look at all these split backfields we're talking.
What are we talking about four powerful backfields with 50-50 potential situations?
You got to figure one of those, something's going to give in the injury front,
and somebody's going to get that full load out of that.
The Oregon crew, Wisconsin, Penn State, and Ohio State.
And they're all 11 to 1 or more.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's pretty good odds.
If you want to pick one, you know, especially if you look at Trevion and assume he'll be heard again.
Well, the same odds as Quinn Sean for these purposes worth a shot.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, Darius Taylor, it's just so crazy.
He's plus 1,400 because if he stays healthy, I mean, kids get.
300 carries. He's plenitage Brooks.
It's the L-L-L-L-Aer.
Yeah.
All these. Definitely.
Yep. Any closing thoughts on these props as we're opening up this portion of our season,
getting closer and closer to kick off?
I would say this is just a primer.
We just looking at that sheet that we reference, it's about two weeks until we get
season-long props in full, in bulk.
So fill those bank accounts and get ready for that.
that release.
So just a tease.
That's all we're getting.
That's all this is is just us wetting the whistle on some of these.
And I'm going to make sure not to talk about this again until we get actual props.
And until we let that market develop, I am going to make sure that I'm going to do my best to shut up as much as possible and give out as little as I can to preserve that market.
So I'm excited.
So are you saying we're not doing another show where we talk about all.
Oh, we will be.
Oh, we will be.
Okay, okay.
I just want to make sure I'm getting my stuff in before we do.
Because there's the season long prop, I'll, don't worry.
I just love the season long prop markets, guys.
I love them.
That's awesome.
I get like butterflies thinking about them.
Two weeks, two weeks.
Let's go.
Yeah, Bobby's asking, is that when they'll be listening?
on DFS apps too. I'm guessing he's
talking draft kings and Fandals. They usually
get released at the same time.
Fandle was around the same time as
Bet Rivers, I believe.
Fandle always... Might have been first.
Yeah. Fandle leads.
Every week, usually Fandul
leads, and then
it'll be Bet Rivers. And then
prize picks or underdog,
they're pretty quick too.
Sometimes they'll be the first ones out.
I forget, they might have been the first ones out last year.
Prize picks. Do you know that, Michael?
I thought, I think Bet Rivers, because Mike, I believe you hit me up.
Okay.
And I was like, oh, season long props shot and he was bet Rivers.
And I was like, yeah, I can't do anything with that.
Okay.
Cool.
Tear to mind.
Shane, uh, Shane wants you to open up an account for him on draftings, Mike.
I got you, Shane.
Hey, 95 cents per play, Shane.
It's all you, buddy.
It's all you.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, dude, this is a fun show.
I had a lot of fun learning from you guys and getting to talk ball with you.
I'm hoping this is not the last time we talk about props
and I can be learning from you guys as we get into the season.
And we can all just tail you guys and make some money this season.
Mike, why don't you talk about what you guys got going on at the CSF side
and then if you want to talk for a ton about band tracks or anything there as well?
Yeah, just the same message as always.
we're open at the CFF site projections will help you with this right we have season long projections
so it'll help you with these season long props and then we have obviously the CFF guide so we are
open for business check us out yeah just don't pay attention to their wide receiver 41 ranking
of Travis hunter that's tom foolery and nonsense that being said yes you can see my rankings out
on fan tracks tomorrow morning when
I figure out how to navigate their WordPress system and take screenshots and paste each little
tier of all my guys individually through it'll take a little time. The rankings are all done.
I just have to piece them out because you can't put full. I like having colored tables.
I need aesthetics to be pleasing to me. So I have to have my tables and I can't just copy and paste
them from from Excel. So I'll have my full positional rankings in tiers, have over 300 plus
players tiered, ranked, draft, ready on fantracks.com.
I'm putting all my content for college fantasy purposes.
And heck, I'll throw some, I'll probably throw some, you know, some betting stuff in there, too,
if it's so relevant for the offseason until I am back at NBC and rocking and roll in there
for the preseason stuff.
But focusing on CFF as much as I possibly can this offseason,
We'll be going to the FSGA in three weeks.
It'll be three weeks from now, from today, literally, where I'll be on a panel talking about the regulations for the stuff we're talking about with props and college football, how it relates to gambling and how it relates to from a better's perspective.
I'll be representing the better on a pretty big discussion panel with various.
local politicians from the Boston area
who enacted Charlie Baker's totalitarian college
betting ban in Massachusetts.
So I will look forward to holding those people's feet to the fire.
And I will be doing, like I said, the benefit for Scott Fishbowl.
I will be there for the Scott Fishbowl Boston on the 21st.
And I will also be at the Fantasy Football Expo.
You guys know all that, though.
I don't know why I'm bothering telling you.
You know, you know what's going on.
Get ready for the wiffle ball.
Wiffle ball's coming.
Let's go.
I'm practicing.
I'm out there in the backyard practicing.
I've got the target set up.
Got 12 wiffle balls and I'm embarrassing my friends.
So get ready.
Nice.
Yeah.
Hey, at Fantasy Points, we have a CFF preseason guide that's coming out.
It's really a primer more than anything where Froton, myself and Zach Hall wrote up 25 player profiles for each position.
We have rankings coming out, projections.
for those top 25 players at each position and then top 10 tight ends as well.
So that should be released, I think, on July 4.
I think we'll throw it out there Independence Day or right after.
It'll be free.
Just got a little bit if you guys would be able to see what our works like and then see all of our projections.
Because like Mike, we got projections coming out as well.
And again, that stuff is like gold for what Mike's talking about,
which is like props, season long props.
I mean, it's good to be able to look at.
Mike's projections, our projections, kind of see what's going on, you know, what the industry's thinking on this and then and then figure out where the edges are in the market.
So, but hey, we've come to end of our show.
Thank you guys for listening.
If you guys could like, comment, subscribe.
Hey, share this with your friends.
Even if, you know, this is not a CFF episode.
So if people are into betting, like this would be a great episode to spread the love on what we got going on here.
And again, when you have guys like Mike and Eric that are just getting canceled in every single state, you should be listening to this show.
Outlaws.
Yeah.
Cross outlaws.
There we go.
We'll see you guys back here next Monday night at 9 p.m. Eastern time.
Until then, do small things with great love.
What?
What?
Why are you shaking your head?
You're welcome.
