Fantasy Football Daily - College Fantasy Football Week 14 Strategy Guide Revealed!
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It is the Fantasy Points, College Fantasy Football Podcast.
I'm Eric Roton with Josh Havallier and J.D. Yankee.
And yeah, that's right.
It's the final week.
All those shows, all off-season, all.
all the best balls, underdog, and finally, here we are in the final week.
So what we were going to do is going to start off with some start sits, obviously going to the waiver wire,
but also talk about some of the guys since, I mean, it's the end of the season, the end of the year,
talk about some of the misses based on our initial rankings and some of our best ball and et cetera type drafts.
So I guess we should probably lead it off the top with that.
since that's the most disposable.
And then I would think the other stuff is a little more relevant for this week.
So if we had to go through the quarterback position here, Josh, who are a few QBs that you looked at and said,
I have too many shares of these guys or I just simply had them ranked too highly and I wish I could have that ranking preseason back?
Yeah, I mean, where to start really with that question?
I mean, I would say the two guys that I was probably overly exposed to were both Nico, I Amaleva and Avery Johnson.
And Avery wasn't like terrible, but he wasn't consistent one.
And he certainly didn't have the upside that I thought he was going to have.
And then Nico the same thing.
I think it was a good lesson in like, you know, these true sophomore quarterbacks that we kind of expect to come in and just be incredible.
I think we're seeing more and more that some of these guys need more time in the oven to cook, so to speak,
because a lot of these older quarterbacks are, you know, I think really showing their worth.
And I was betting on these young guys and trying to get upside, which has worked before, but didn't what has not worked this year and was a bad strategy for me.
So those are two that off the top.
We could talk about more, I'm sure, but those are the two that come to mind.
JD, anybody for yourself that comes to mind?
Yeah, speaking of taking flyers on young guys with high upside,
my one true love, Bertie Manuel Jr.
Was process wrong?
Probably.
The thing is, I'll probably just go back to the well again next year,
just waiting for the upside to pay off.
Never going to learn my lessons.
And then the other one that hurts a lot is he was top two of my most
drafted quarterbacks on underdog,
which is unfortunate because I have some good teams cooking there,
but Blake Shepin on Mississippi State was the process bad on that one?
I don't know.
Do you take a flyer on a cheap guy with a good system?
It was cheap on pretty much all formats.
I know there were some fans of him in our Champions League drafts,
but I don't know.
Even if he played all year,
like their wide receivers still haven't really popped.
It still looks like they're just a total rebuild this year,
so I'm not sure it would have paid off.
Fantastic anyway.
So those are two guys that have a ton of shares that are getting me zeros.
Yeah, speaking of that, I mean, let's take a look.
I'm just looking at my rankings coming into the year.
And Jackson Arnold certainly didn't return his top 12 ranking out here.
I would say Garrett Green, there was another miss in terms of rankings-wise.
So we all had them up there.
Seth Hennigan, Memphis was not quite the offensive juggernaut.
We have been accustomed to, well, unless you had Mario Anderson, then it was good times.
but the Memphis passing game certainly just did not come through in the manner that we thought.
I'm going to blame this next one squarely on the shoulders of Chris Kay.
Our friend from the BTR podcast here, I don't like to name names out here, but it's our friend,
Chris Kaye, you know, and his love for Kiron drones.
He is a Virginia Tech fan, so I think that might have colored his perception a little bit
when it comes to his evaluation.
But Kyron drones, I mean, we were seeing him drafted at least in single digits in the Champions League best ball drafts.
But, gosh, we were looking, you know, as a top 12 quarterback in some format.
So I got to have some fun with that.
But at all kidding, so I definitely, KJ. Jefferson.
K.J. Jefferson.
Speaking of dead shares over the last second half of the season.
And he was drafted fairly prominently.
you know, and counted upon due to his rushing stats, that hurt.
If you have, if you went for KJ. Jeffs in this year, you got burned.
And then I guess I'll, you know, you have to mention Preston Stone when it comes to just total best ball,
just evaporating the productivity whatsoever, just gets taken over by Kevin Jennings and,
and adios to Preston Stone and any relevance he had this year.
So those are some QBs.
You know, it's interesting, man.
It's that a lot of these QBs that we had ranked high,
like a lot of them didn't do well.
A lot of them.
You know, it's like,
throw Grayson McCall in there.
Yeah,
I don't want to go through injuries because injuries did happen,
but Castiano's.
Caden Salter.
I mean, he didn't.
Byron Brown.
Yeah.
Byron Brown.
And Salter is straight performance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, look,
you have like Milrow.
that was great and you had Cam Ward they both like kind of out punted their value per se but a lot of these guys of where you're getting them like a lot of them just didn't hit even like Haynes King I mean we a lot of us were on not on him because of his schedule but yeah like you said Thomas Castellanos it's like pretty much if you had Chandler Morris in the top and Cam Ward uh you know Jackson Dart maybe Jalen Monroe those were but everybody else is like
Nico deserves to be in this conversation speaking on the sophomores, obviously.
Totally.
It did not pan out as a sixth round, you know, fifth rounder in some spots.
Yeah.
Absolutely not.
Shador did.
And we were, dude, in the Champions League, we weren't drafting him until round 10 and 11.
I know we talked about a lot on this show in terms of where he was going.
And, you know, the passing volume, it's been a go.
That whole group hates Colorado.
him and Travis Hunter were absurdly cheap in all our drafts.
Yep, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I was getting a lot of those.
Though it didn't reflect in my performance, fortunately.
Second place last year and, you know, lower middle of the fact this year.
But that being said, moving on to running backs.
Josh, you know, start with you again.
Anybody popped to mind when you talk to the running back.
I don't even have to look at my rankings.
I don't even know where Adam ranked, but all I know is,
was, I think for three straight years, I've fallen for Donovan Edwards, just going like, the upside.
The upside is incredible.
And every year.
He catches and he hits big plays.
You watch the Michigan game.
He hit those two big runs, you know, right off the right side.
Thanks to Connor Stallions, knowing the formation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Another one that I had ranked high and I was very high on was Jade on Blue.
I mean, he was a guy that I felt like I was getting a steal in the 11th round.
And then especially when Baxter went down.
but honestly
I mean
some of his stuff is production
but some of it is like
he just lost his job
because he couldn't hold onto the ball
I mean I think if he would hold onto the ball
he would have been okay
he also got injured early
but those fumbles
just opened the door for Trey Wisner
and Trey Wisner is a good back
but I don't think he's more dynamic
than Blue
it's just blue
I mean even this last game
Blue's fumbling once or twice
and it's just like any breakaway
he fumbles and it's like this is
unbelievable and things that I should have accounted more for because we saw it last year against
Washington and I was blinded by again same kind of thing where I a lot of times I'll shoot up like
way upside and it's it's won me a lot of leagues and it's also and these moments makes me look
really stupid well I mean he started going at the end of the first round beginning of the second
in at the end of the drafts after Baxter went down so yeah I don't think it was
just you or anything.
I think the market reflected that reality down the board.
And you stood to really profit because you had a lot of the 11th round shares.
We'll get to your, I don't think that's as big a miss.
That was logical.
I got a Texas miss for you that I'm going to give it to you on with the wide receivers.
That being said, JD.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, one thing that's going through my head and I heard that.
So it was just a difficult year.
I think it's going to take a while to digest exactly what the new landscape of college football is.
And I'm still digesting it because I don't have any solid answers.
There's like quarterback, we just went over.
Like the miss rate was incredible this year.
And then as I'm listening to running backs, it's like, okay, well, if the quarterbacks aren't
going to hit, just draft a talented running back on a good team.
And then you go through it.
It's like, well, the stadium blue Texas didn't hit.
The Ohio State guys have been hit.
Jordan James has been pretty good at Oregon.
But the Michigan guys, okay, and they fell off the table.
Travis E.T.N. and Georgia hasn't been worth it.
Like, I don't know what the state strategy is because none of these are working.
Usually you're tried and true.
So I think it's going to take some digesting.
Yeah, go ahead.
Well, I'm looking at my top here.
I'm just saying in terms of who I had for tier one running backs, I had nine of them.
And I'm looking at, if you took one of those tier one running backs, eight of them hit.
Gentie.
Ollie Gordon in the second half has been better, but he hasn't been a miss.
Giddens, Hampton, Mafa, Neil, Darius Taylor, for the most part, at least from the PPR, and Jordan James.
and the only one I had in that top group that was towards the end is Jaden Ott.
And he is a disgrace, as we've talked about.
Jayne Pumns is better than Jaden Not.
And I'm mad at myself for going back and looking, being like, oh, my gosh, I had aught this high.
But, you know, that's where we were.
He was coming off a good sophomore season.
And then, like, even the second tier, Tage Brooks, okay.
You know, you avoided that dip after having 300 touches last year.
Ishmael Madi fine.
Quentin Cooley until he got hurt.
I mean, he's cashing in touchdowns.
It's been better than Caden Salter.
Mario Anderson was there.
Kyle Monongai.
There's some pretty good investments in that top 15 generally range that if you went and
decided to go, all right, I'm going to go running back, running back.
You probably did okay with that group of guys we're talking about.
That being said, if you took Gabiard,
I haven't saw Chuck. I mean, pretty much right out of the gate worthless. Didn't even have a chance of being any value right out of the gate. That was just a straight miss. Abusama, Iowa State. Ouch. Just gets thrown in that committee grind. It's overtaken by Carson Hansen. He's definitely not returning his investments. You mentioned Trigitian. But, you know, Tamarian Hardin, DJ Hardin, miss. And the last one I'll go with Caleb Jackson.
killed we thought
Kate and Durham just took over
what we all thought he'd be
any other guys before we move on to
wide receivers what I think is interesting
is like a lot of my strategy
which again didn't pay off this year
was trying because we've played so many
PPRs is really trying to use some of the
NFL fantasy strategy
where it's like hey go after these PPR guys
that can collect you points
and really I think if you look at that first tier
for the most part other than Darius Taylor
a lot of those guys really made their fantasy production was on the ground.
And it wasn't a ton through the air.
It was the Kyle Munun guys that were consistent, the Taj Brooks, these guys that even Ashton Jenty this year was not 48 receptions.
And I don't know what Ali Gordon has, but it's not what he did last year.
So it's really interesting to me that if you went with a kind of a traditional, like no PPR approach,
you probably fared better with running backs.
And I don't know, again, long-term viability of that.
But for this year, the PPR strategy, again, in Darius Taylor, you probably picked him
because you thought he was going to be.
And then he is like four catches a game.
So anyways, you're still like you're hitting, but you're not hitting for the right
reasons on that one.
But yeah, that's what I would say with that.
It's like interesting that the.
strategy that to me would be counterintuitive for what we mostly play in, full PPR leagues,
really probably backfired if you're anything like me this year.
That's a good point.
Yep.
It's a good point.
As I say, Josh, that's something I try to factor in my handicapping is like people don't
really factor in running back targets at all.
Like these guys are always way over-juiced, like the coolies and the menong guys.
And then this year, like, it was perfect.
And so, okay, do we go back to that next year?
Like, I kind of think it's a fluke.
Like, it's worked a handful of years for me.
where that seems to be underrated, but it's been like 100% that way.
So many of these guys are not relying on targets whatsoever.
Yeah, I would also say there's a level of two of like you can usually get lucky with these running backs or sorry, these backfields.
They have two running backs that one of them gets hurt.
So Ash and Genty last year, right?
Like George Halani gets hurt game one and then Genty goes off for six games and that's his backfield.
That didn't happen this year.
Like Quinn Sean and Trevion were both healthy.
Ketron and Nick Singleton were.
both healthy. You just never, the closest thing was backs were getting hurt before the season,
but then that never really panned out. So we didn't really, at least not that I can think of,
saw that backfield, that was a shared backfield where one guy got all like a heavy volume
because somebody got hurt. And that strategy also usually pays off pretty well overall,
but it didn't this year. All my strategies just got cooked.
this year. I run a razor's edge.
I'm about all of them.
You might be being a little hard on yourself there, Josh.
You've done just a lot.
But point noted and taken that it seems like,
and especially where we're doing all these drafts,
we're doing a couple dozen, at least,
of all different stripes over the course of that off-season.
And things kind of become somewhat formulaic to us.
And then you look afterwards, you're like, all these things,
I should have seen. Oh, what about this? I shouldn't have taken this guy. I mean, the
armchair quarterbacking is just, it's nonstop. You could sit here and do this the entire show.
And obviously, I'm sure that is similar in, you know, the NFL, but you don't even have to say
those things in the NFL because everybody knows who all the guys are that are up at top and who
bust and who didn't with us. We forget, I mean, God, we're week 14th and we forget about some of these
guys that are even, you know, like, there's completely been erased from relevancy.
Like, goodbye, Caleb Jackson, Chip Train, and who?
Right.
Yeah, he's gone.
Cam Cook.
Bye, bye, bye, by, bye, Cam Cook.
And it's interesting, I've heard.
Parker Jenkins, remember Parker Jenkins?
Haven't uttered his name in three months.
Yep.
And it's interesting.
Like, I've heard, uh, analysts basically say, like, I'm going to, like, do my analysis
based on the first four weeks of the year.
because I know that if they hit that in people's minds,
that's what I'll remember.
And it's not a bad strategy if you just want to sell some subs.
But, you know, I think on the other end,
it's like it is interesting you just forget about, you know,
oh my gosh, we totally forgot to take a break at like eight minutes.
So we should probably do that real quick and then come back,
talk wide receiver misses.
All right.
Go ahead, Trotan.
No, no, you're good, man.
That was on me.
That's my job.
Proton, do you want to start off with any of your wide receiver misses?
Yeah, and my job is to rant.
So I think front and center, first off, pretty good class based on who a lot of us had up there in our rankings.
Burden, Tett, Tori Horton, who was injured, nothing you can do about that.
Royals was good until he got hurt.
Again, I can't even call those misses because they're injury situations who performed until they got hurt.
Ricky White, Tess Johnson, no problem.
Evan Stewart, what is he?
He can't be a hit.
He's not a hit, but like he was going second round, most of the time.
Third round, second third round, he's a miss.
It's got to be a mess.
A lot of optimism about that Oregon pass game.
It turned out to be Todd Holden.
Yep.
Who was the two?
Joey Hobert, Texas State, has not returned his investment, in my opinion.
You're the Texas State guy, Josh.
feel of it. Oh, totally. Yeah, I just think they spread it around too much this year, right?
Yeah. To really get value there. But, you know, at least he's, you're not getting zeros on any of
these guys. You know what I mean? Like, you can at least, there's value. We'll hit on something that you
did. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We'll hit on something we did. Feli Ashlock. Ouch. Mm-hmm. Just been shuffled
in that Hawaii mix, you know, just another guy there. I think he's probably the first big miss that I'm
looking at in terms of the top. Then you got
Trey Harris, Xavier Restrepo,
feel great about them. Sean
Atkins, the diet.
Ooh, South Florida in general.
Yeah. Just the grim
Reaper came for that offense.
Yeah. Absolutely slashed it.
Let's not forget about Kevin Concepcion
over there at NC State.
Nope. That's a wrap.
Yeah, Luke Probasco.
Wolf. Yeah, Wolf. He knows.
Absolute dogs right there.
but if I had to go, next one, Noah Smith, Sam Houston State.
Yeah.
I had 15 touchdowns left, you know, just a guy, just another guy.
And last but not least, Nick Anderson just didn't play.
But, you know, that is also an injury thing.
So I'll skip by and go with Jeremy Bernard.
Thought he'd be the number one at Alabama.
I thought that that would be, you know, a premium position that we'd have to pay attention
to and that he's he's good he's out there but he's not scoring a lot of touchdowns and 80 yards
60 yards four catches and no touchdowns that isn't moving the needle in a lot of these leagues and
he was going i would say you know right around wide receiver 25 or so um guys some guys
Josh tell me about jaunte cook yes yes a guy that did end up 45th in my rankings at the end
he is the guy that uh you know honestly what i was doing a lot with the texas wide receivers is i was trying
to double tap both him and bond because i didn't i knew golden wasn't going to be a number one but i thought
if there was going to be a number one it'd be one of those two and um and it ended up being bond you know
and it'll be interesting to see what happens with john day coach's career it's like how much of a hit
was bond even if you want to right in that sense and and even that like i don't know Texas
wide receiver, one, just hasn't been that productive anyways as of late.
But I will say, like, I think Bond's lack of production was due to his ankle injury,
that she's just, he's just had it all year, and that's just unfortunate.
And, like, Texas is a team that I think we need to be careful of in the future,
because Sark has basically said the first four weeks are going to be preseason.
We're going to play it like that.
And then he's, if they get a lead, he's taking out their starters.
Like, I don't think, I really think he's going to change or he has changed his approach to how he's doing things based on a 15 to 17 week season.
Right.
So, so, yeah, overall.
But yeah, John Tecook was definitely a bad one in general.
But, man.
But we go for, it's the power three theory.
It's the potent offense wide receiver three.
We're looking at it as a potent passing offense.
The problems we get into is the last five weeks, Georgia, 211 passing yards for Quinn Ewers, Arkansas two weeks ago.
And this is playoff time, 176 passing yards.
Last week against Kentucky, 191 passing yards to go around.
It's not this giant pie that we have to take a bite out of.
And the emergence of Gunner Helm, as a red zone, throw.
as, you know, legit touch-down weapon is really kind of suppress what these wide receivers
are doing. You just haven't seen, especially on a props front, you can't be taking too many
over positions on these Texas wide receiver because you don't know who it's going to be
from week to week. It kind of shuttles between them. So unless it's gun or helm.
Unless it's a gunner helm. Yeah. Well, that's tight end. It's not received.
Right. Right. It's gun or helm every week. I mean, right. And nobody had Gunner Helm.
it was all um
the
Alabama transfer
yeah
like oh that's what it would be
Gunner Helm took it
and gosh
you put himself on the NFL radar
I have to think of this one
oh yeah for sure
yeah I mean
look other guys around there too
like you have Derwin Burgess
well Pauling I mean a lot of these guys
guys that we liked right like
like Trey Wilson
I mean injuries
got injured that's an injury thing
it's funny more injuries
at the top end with the wide receivers
this year and they were with the running backs frankly and i think you could argue that like
tett mcmillan like did not live up to his billing as like the wide receiver one i mean i i
think the same thing with ollie gordon you have these guys that you pick in certain places um
and you end up really suffering because early on in the season right ted had that first week that
was incredible but then he had some like pretty bad weeks and it's like if that if you get set
behind early on same thing with allie gordon
And it's like that can really hurt you in the standings.
You're playing comeback for the last six weeks of the season.
And it's hard to catch up.
So, you know, TMAX is a guy that I liked quite a bit, as we did we all.
And I don't think he's lived up to, you know, relative to expectation.
I don't think he's lived up to it personally.
I think you're right, certainly.
But, you know, it's a sort of perspective there.
But, J.D., anybody?
Why receiver?
Yeah, the two early guys who stood out that I had a lot of,
The two slot guys, Sean Atkins and Kevin Concepcion.
Concepcion just really hurts.
And I still don't know about that one.
I want to see if they had a full season of McCall.
I still don't think Concepcion would have smashed.
But he comes out of the gates, gets those three touchdowns,
his funneled targets just like last year.
And then with Bailey, I know Bailey's like put up some decent yardage,
but it's been weird stuff.
Like none of their receivers have done anything.
Like smothers is going for 90 yards here and there.
Jolly's getting some.
I don't think that would have happened with McCall, right?
but maybe it would have.
We don't know.
They got a lot of pieces.
We still don't know.
But Atkins just hurts.
Atkins just, you think you're getting 120 targets, and instead you get absolute crap.
And the quarterback is not the quarterback we thought we would get.
So that one hurts.
A late-round guy that I have a ton of everywhere.
The underdog ones hurt the worst with this guy.
It's Chris Brasel with Tennessee.
Brazzle.
He has been an underdream for Tennessee.
Throw Squirrel White in there, too.
in terms of guys we're overdrafted.
You think you have last year, like the total falloff,
but okay, you lose Hendon Hooker, you get Joe Milton.
I mean, yeah, fall off is to be expected.
But for the passing offense, just to still to have not taken off.
I mean, I'm just thinking you're getting the cheap Tennessee guy
as like one of your last wide receivers on underdog.
Now, what I wish, because the three guys I was clicking in that range are him,
Jordan Tyson, and Dejohn, stribling.
Now, why is Brazel like my highest of those guys?
I don't know I could add something good teams.
I'm really, really, really hurt.
Nice wins out of the rate, right on.
I mean, it is crazy, too.
You look at a lot of these, I mean, I'm looking at a lot of these guys that we had ranked.
And like Kobe Hudson, Cole Wilson.
Kobe Hudson.
You know, even I, you know, Eleg from Stanford, like, I mean, Joshua Meredith was a guy that.
Mosley, I mean, Mosley had other ideas down the street here.
Mosley's better.
Mr. Iow, man.
Oh, yeah.
He is.
mostly straight out better.
In fact, pick them up.
They're playing San Jose State this week.
No, no problem.
Honorable mentions, Dionne Burks, Oklahoma.
Oh, tell me more about the spring game, Dionne Burks.
Oh, we caught two touchdowns.
Oh, my gosh, he's going to do the grill.
Enough, enough.
Antoine Wells is a stiff.
You never belong to be near the top 50.
My God.
If I have to watch him, did you guys watch any of the Old Miss game this weekend?
Dropped another one.
Briefly.
He's a drops machine.
I want to ever hear about Antoine Wells' NFL potential in this offseason because some
some donkey is going to bring him up.
But can you imagine he's going to say it to him?
My God, just get ready for somebody who's going to call him a sleeper.
Idiots.
Anyways, Zachariah Branch, got to give him, got to give him a mention on the Duds list.
I mean, come on.
It was another Lincoln Riley wide receiver group.
Oh, is it going to be, is it going to be Jacoby Lane catching another amazing touchdown in the corner?
Okay.
Yep.
Yep.
Do you guys see my picture with him, by the way?
No.
That's amazing.
Dude, you didn't see my picture with Kobe.
Yeah, with Jacoby Lane.
Am I going to have to, am I going to have to, like, retweet this here for you guys?
Yeah.
It was my last, my last tweet from the field.
my, because,
fucking,
JD, you were on it.
I talked about you in the tweet.
Did you see it?
No, I delete my tweet.
I go zero dark 30 like a brawn
and delete all my apps like once a week,
the beginning of the week until I have to follow in dream news.
I call you out from making the finals in the King's Classic.
Oh, shoot.
Come on, bro.
I saw that one.
I saw that one.
He's like,
why hasn't he responded?
Nobody responded.
I don't think anybody started.
It's because I put it out on the East Coast time at 2 a.m.
Because it was the last game of the night.
And it went late.
It was USC UCLA.
It went down in the end.
You know, USC was losing going in the end of things here.
But regardless, all right.
So I don't even know what I was talking about.
What tangent have I run off on, guys?
Zachariah Branch.
Zachariah Branch.
And Jacoby Lane picture.
Thank you.
My Jacoby Lane picture.
Guys, the thing was money.
Let me see. Let me see.
Nope, that's the first one.
I put the first one out, which people saw, and then just nobody's, people saw the
halftime one.
Nobody saw the second one.
So I'll go and I'll pop it again here.
Anyways, yeah, those are my, my wide receiver, Josh, tight ends.
Tight ends.
I mean, I only drafted one tight in all year and he saw.
So, Luke Haas, that would be probably my main, main guy.
And look, yeah, there's just.
no justification for it. Unfortunately, you know, Arkansas will probably fire. Does Sam Pittman get
fired yet? Or he's head just on, not yet. I think he's going to hang around. Yeah, we'll see.
And just ruin Luke Haas for another year. But yeah, that was a guy that, I mean, look, the metrics
were amazing in his three, two and a half games as a freshman. And I just went upside and that was not,
not the pick there. So I'm pretty sure. And I've mentioned those with you. I'm pretty sure he had like a decently
hurt back for much of the year.
He scored that touchdown early against Oklahoma State.
And he looked 40 years old and we're like, well, that's not Luke Haas what's going on.
And then they kind of mentioned it a few times.
So I'm curious what the offseason word is on Haas.
Yeah.
I mean, look, I'll fade him next year and then he'll go off.
So thank you.
You guys should all have, you know, send me thank you cards next year when I fade.
Of course.
I always do, man.
You know that.
You know how I roll.
You're charitable, man.
You deserve all the accolades.
As far as tight end.
ends go.
One second.
So we get down there.
Luke Lechay.
Look at it.
How does Iowa's offense resuscitate itself?
Pop a 40-point game every once in a while.
You know, they're actually a real offense again.
Despite they're on QB3, Jackson, Stratt and Oakmont.
It doesn't matter to Luke, Lechay.
Somehow they didn't bring their tight end along.
It's the one thing that didn't go along in the offensive revival.
I'm shocked.
Caden pre-scorn's top-10 tight end.
He got pretty much taken over by Dekwan, right?
Obviously, R.J. Marilyn got hurt, but he was great until he did, so I can't even consider that.
But you know what?
The top-end tight ends are pretty good.
Gadsden, Fannin, Willis, Keithy, Brinningstool.
Loveland.
Loveland.
Mason Taylor, Jolly.
All of those guys performed, you know, and that was really basically the top tier of tight ends.
with Lechay slipped in there.
And preschool one was like on that tier two borderline.
But I had, I had Warren, Tyler Warren is tight end 13.
And that was, he is obviously not a tier two tight end.
He just got all that tight end that work that was being split between him and Theo Johnson.
And then, you know, he got the friar moose workload.
And that's what we've been waiting to see with those split tight ends for tight ends.
And oh my God, did he get it?
Bless Sandy Cottlenicki.
All hail Cottle Nicky.
We were all above ADP on him as far as by position
and we still didn't have enough shares.
Still didn't have nearly enough,
Kyle Warren,
even though you're right.
Like it was,
and that was something we talked about in the off season,
about how it was like,
man,
you know,
round 13,
18 was about his range.
He was going early on.
I was want to say like round 18 is where we were seeing him.
Oh,
I was just stupendous about.
Yeah,
and we were talking about it.
on our underdog best ball live drafts.
We're like, yeah, Tyler Warren's great.
Like, he's your, that's your tight end too.
You don't need anything else.
You're tight end too.
Right.
You're in great shape.
To be honest, I went back and looked at a bunch of the underdogs, like, who finished
first or second or whatever.
And it's like, Tyler Warren was on almost every single team.
It's like, it's like Tyler Warren was the cheat code this year.
So it was pretty good.
I got a ton of Tyler Warren on underdog.
So my top three tight-ins looking at them, which this is one position I did well.
I didn't do well on every position.
Running back was not a good one for me this year.
But Tyler Warren, Max Claire for Purdue, who's just kind of an easy, cheap hit.
Ronda Gadsden, I feel absolutely great about all these.
And then above them all, my number one drafted tight end is say, due trowary on Mississippi State.
So at least you got him in like round 25 or something.
And at least that one, even then it's like I'm deciding between him and Claire.
And I think it was a bi-week thing because I really want to Gadsden and one.
Warren on like all my teams.
I want to say they had the same bye weeks.
So instead of just taking them both like a normal person and okay,
just take a zero or whatever,
just talking myself into triore on like 50% of my teams.
And it's just like,
like,
for what I mentioned.
Like sometimes it's just obvious.
Like you just like a guy and there's reasons you like them.
And yes,
I like Tyler Warren,
but don't draft them because of a biweek or don't draft them because of this or
that or this or that.
And it's like sometimes just like simplify it and draft the best player.
Yeah.
And don't draft Jack.
selling. Don't draft him. Dude, I feel that I won't call it. Our buddy Moxley, he, he made
velling like the centerpiece of his underdog strategies. I just remember looking at him being like,
oh, God, Fox, come on, I love you, buddy. What are you doing? Come on, buddy. Love you box.
But, yeah, that didn't work out too well, the velling experiment. He's gone down. He had like C2C buzz
coming out of Oregon State did not work out too well.
Maybe Leland, our boy, who's the listener, can give us a little, shine a little light on that.
And then lastly, the Georgia tandem, Erosic and Delp, utterly worthless.
Honorable worthless.
It was, you got lucky, or you got nothing.
One out of three.
You had a loss and lucky every once in a while.
But that's it.
You had to get lucky.
It wasn't like in every week thing.
Yeah.
No.
Just talk about the name just fitting.
What a horrible situation.
Yeah, perfectly.
That's all I got.
Yep.
Now that's great.
Let's take a quick break and we'll wrap up this conversation and then we'll get into some Waverware talk.
Yeah.
You know, it would be fun to rehash this conversation and the off season and just go like, after we dug into some data and going like, all right, here's where, you know, it's so good to like learn from your failures.
and to like see the problem and like see where it was like where was it bad process and where was it just like bad luck yeah there's so many things to analyze and to be critical of you were going to fail looking at this just in a in a first pass at the top end though
and our first 12 you know to 15 guys are pretty good yeah pretty good by and large you know accounting for injuries that's obviously going to be misses but we weren't
bad but then you get past that and it's a lot more like all right catch is catch can this
it's going to be hits and miss yeah and it's it's one of those things where it feels like this
year more than ever it's like if you had certain players at least in best ball so if you had
chanlon morris john meteer nick nash nash asht and jentie yeah like they were just so far if
if we had like war right numbers for fantasy those guys would be just crushing their positions
So anyways, it's really interesting to look at, particularly relative to value, right?
Like to where you got them, Gentie, obviously at the top.
But it's like, man, if you have Gentie on your roster, you're probably in the playoffs.
If you had, you know, Phil Moffat, you're probably in the playoffs and you probably lost round one or two based on what he's done the last couple weeks.
But anyways, like, it's pretty interesting.
One of my takeaways for this year is, you know, I think most of us are,
pretty good at hitting later value just in general.
But it's like, man, like running backs at the beginning, like you said, Proton,
it's like eight of the top nine in the first tier, like hit.
Right on the money.
If you can.
That's rare.
Yeah, I will go back and analyze that.
You're right.
But it feels rare.
Right.
It does, but like it's unusual.
It feels like running backs.
It's like even if a wide receiver hits, unless he's like going bazook, like,
it's just hard for those guys early on, even if they hit.
hit for them to put up the amount of fantasy points that a really good running back will put up
or even a quarterback and it's like at the end of the day you are just accumulating points
and the farther you go down the draft board the more risk there is and who you're picking up
and so it's just tougher and so it's like man is it is it a strategy just go running back
you know i feel like with qbs i feel like we did we've been doing it right yeah because
Brown and Salter,
Nico,
Arnold,
Carrick Green,
Seth Henigan,
KJ Jefferson.
Yeah.
And that's like,
Avery Johnson was good.
Wasn't great.
He's okay.
You know,
Aguilar?
Eh,
yeah.
Appalachian State lost a little bit of their shine this year.
Kairn Drones has discussed.
Nuss Meyer was pretty good
from a fancy perspective,
not as good in real life
in big situations.
Castellanos was crap.
Haynes King was good.
Considering the guys we're talking about here,
Haynes King is probably a hit.
He was a top 10 guy.
Right.
He hurts.
He hurts.
I really wanted him.
And everyone's talking about the three buys.
And I'm like,
you got an offense that was like top 15 in every metric that returns everyone.
And the guy runs a lot.
Like,
I'm just going to keep pressing him because I think I'm getting like six,
like minimum six weeks of good production.
And who knows?
If he wasn't hurt,
We'll see.
He still wasn't putting on last year stats,
but that one,
that one really hurts.
So I want to see how that would have burned out.
The injuries,
exactly.
Yeah,
it kind of,
and that's what you have,
you have to factor in injuries because,
like,
you can't call something to bust because the guy's injured.
I,
I refuse to do that.
It's not fair.
Yeah.
Totally.
Maybe that's just my,
my stubbornness here.
Sluca,
though it's not going to get,
forgets Luca.
Oh,
dude,
Andrew Katz,
artist head.
Yeah.
That is a tough one.
But again,
it's like one of those ones.
I mean,
cats also.
So, like, I'm a bit mad because he got so much training on Morris.
And I had a rule this year where I was in like, oh, he got so much, cats.
And I had a rule this year.
I was like, I'm not going to reach for guys that I got value on early.
And Morris is a guy that I was tapping very early in the offseason.
And then Katz was just taking them up.
And I'm like, all right.
He's a son of a bitch.
He pushed his chips in further than I did.
I wasn't willing to.
Cats brings me to it.
Yeah.
When Katz, his strategies hit, they hit.
Oh, he, he, yeah, he's.
good, man. He's good. Oh, yeah. He's great. He's a guy. You should listen to the BTR podcast with him and
K for cats, not for K, obviously. You can fade one and you can pale the other. How about that?
Sorry, Kay. I'm sorry, buddy. I love them. Those guys are great in all seriousness.
For sure. But we probably should segue at some point. Yes, let's do it. We're 41 minutes in the show,
right? Probably get into the here and now. And into the Waverwire show, you think we should get to
some maybe probably do that yeah pro time why don't you uh give us your kubes first and then jd you can
go next and then i'll uh i'll give the goods at the end i'll go uh i tried to keep the the qbs deep
because you as we've discussed in like the last three shows it's like how many qbis can we talk
about here right um but uh i'm going matchup based chase garbara is UCLA playing at fresno state
all right he's 7% owned if you're looking at a qb you're probably desperate
and it's down to the bare bones at this point.
Somebody who's available, if you're in a deep league, you're like,
oh, I've got injuries, I've got, you know, bad matchups.
UCLA playing against Fresno State here.
They'll probably put it on them.
Everybody's putting it on Fresno State.
Like, this is not the, you know, the Kalin DeBoer, Jim Levitt.
This is not the old time your daddy's Fresno State team.
Like they gave up 302 passing to,
to Colorado State last week, 244 to Hawaii,
284 to San Jose State.
Like, I feel good about them.
UCLA being able to impose their will on the Bulldogs.
You could at least consider that.
Oklahoma State, you have to consider.
May I, Liu,
May I, Liuaki,
Smith.
Smith.
Yes.
Right.
The Smith guy there?
name begins with M over there on Oklahoma State.
Hey, let's give it up to him.
I know that I was, everybody who listens to this podcast
was probably pretty excited about the Alan Bowman line this week.
We got past attempts 32 and a half.
We got like 249 on it open for his passing yardage because we all knew.
I mean, Alan Bowman, what's the, why?
What's the point?
Right.
What are we doing here?
unfortunately,
Maya Liwuki,
Liuaki,
Smith did not have
his helmet pop off
so we didn't get an appearance
out of Allen Bone.
We couldn't catch those unders.
But 26 out of 36,
please, 72% of his passes
for 326 yards,
and two touchdowns,
ran for a touchdown as well,
didn't run for many yards,
but, I mean,
three total touchdowns,
3 and 26 yards,
he looked okay.
I mean, given,
he's playing Texas Tech,
but the playing
Colorado. So, I mean, I'm not afraid after seeing Jalen Daniels what he did of if you're in a spot,
grabbing Smith and plugging him in, having a go at it. And then lastly, Bryson Barnes, Utah States.
Petrus got hurt. Brice and Barnes came in and put up 41 points. He's 3% owned. Right? I mean,
3% owned. If you're looking for a week, here we are. Bryson Barnes, go get him.
Yep, that's a good one.
I like it.
JD, what you got?
I'm not going to have a whole lot on waivers.
One, because it's the last week.
You're probably not hitting the waivers too hard if you're in championships too,
because I'm having browser troubles.
I had to close everything because I don't have any notes.
But he's going blind.
Yeah, but two quarterbacks, I knew I liked Cole Snyder,
Eastern Michigan, playing Western Michigan.
We've talked about them a lot.
Western Michigan's defense is God-awful.
It's a strange game because Eastern Michigan has a pretty bad efficiency
metrics, but they play at a fast tempo, so they still have fantasy producers, whereas Western
Michigan is the total opposite.
They have really good metrics and move the ball, but they've been doing so very slowly,
which is surprising to me because they kind of ran fast for portions of last year.
So anyway, I think those two combined, it wouldn't be surprised if we got a decent output
from both teams would be married on it.
And then other than that, J.C. French, I think he's only 26% of leagues, but they're moving
the ball and they're playing at App State, and things are not going too well at up.
state there's some chatter about the coach and uh total fade train my defense has been all year so if
if you if you need need a guy that's a guy i love it a quick shout out to our boy andrew cats
he's in the chat talking about sturd's in the chat so you must have heard us praising him i mean
that guy he's awful oh no he isn't oh he's talking about stirr event geez i watched cat i watched
i watch sturdivant make a nice catch at ucla u s nice one-hander yeah the nice one-hander is talking some
chatter after that was nice that's a
Oh, yeah, he was getting it.
And then unfortunately, things can go well in the fourth quarter for UCLA.
God, that was a deflated stadium at the end of that game.
Let me tell you something.
Watch that video that actually retweeted, and you can see,
as I'm cutting my going through the video and talking about teams that made the finals,
like you, J.D and others, you see UCLA get their flag
and literally plant it right on midfield, right behind.
me as I'm filming the video and I'm like oh there's a there's a flag being planted sorry sorry but yeah
it's it was a fun moment oh nice we got a question here yeah we'll pet it all right can I possibly
trust horvath against that awful ecud or am I stuck with hoover got a big champ matchup against
your true stud so you guys gonna help him beat me that's what will's talking about here
bench them both bench them both have confidence in the rest of your skill position guys
send a message to them.
You don't need the quarterback.
There you go.
I agree with these guys, Will.
I think great advice.
Corvats' thumb is messed up.
Hoover, they're running Sabianna Williams out there 50% of time at quarterback.
A lot.
You should pick somebody up.
You should pick like a Mac guy up or something.
Statt.
Like Akron,
who are they thrown out this week?
Yeah.
Ben Finley.
Always.
Yeah.
Who's available?
I got one for Will.
I don't know if he's available in the 50 teamer, but C.J.
Akbana.
The Buffalo quarterback, he is at 6% own.
I think he's averaging the last three weeks, 31.1 fantasy points.
Yeah, 245 and a half on his prop, too.
Come on.
Do you know who they're playing this week?
Yeah, I know.
Ken State.
The ultimate defense to play.
The greatest defense.
They're going to be a key contributor to this, the end of this podcast tonight.
I have all Buffalo waivers.
I've got with me some Ogbana.
lines. I know. I've been looking at it.
Like, damn, how can we not? How can I not
take this over here? Good state's offense,
by the way, which ranks dead last
and success rate when you filter
out garbage time. And first
in explosiveness. They either hit a big play or they go
absolutely nowhere. Oh, boy. Yep.
That is, that is the Yulotowski way.
There you go. Will said he's
rolling with some limbo ball. He's all in
on Buffalo. Oh, yeah. Here we go.
We can go to running
backs now. Uh, pro time.
start with you.
Just, J.D., I didn't want to put you on the spot in case you didn't have any notes of
our thoughts.
So go ahead for a thought.
Well, if Justin Marshville is still out there, he's 32% owned.
They're playing Utah State, who is another elite bad defense, one of the true,
the true greats of 2024.
The last chance we get to take a crack at the Utah State defense.
So just cherish it because you'll be wishing you had more of these opportunities.
Remember, this is week 14.
Don't get this again for a very long time.
So Justin Marshall had 20 carries, 94 yards last game, and a TD had 16 for 104 the game before.
They are pounding the rock on the ground, and I don't think they're going to find that.
There's no reason to stop against Utah State.
Fab 5 Freddie Brock had three touchdowns last game for Georgia State.
That's a good one.
And a buck 50.
He went wild last game because it's been.
I mean, it's been a topsy-turvy affair over there in terms of his usage.
Let's not, you know, sit here and pretend.
But, bro, you did three touchdowns from buck 50.
And they're playing coastal Carolina.
It's just kind of disarray this year.
This ain't the coastal Carolina of your.
So 11% owned at Fab 5 Freddie Brock.
Okay.
UMass.
My school.
University of Massachusetts isn't often we talk about UMass on this program in spite of
my, you know, education there.
You, they're playing Yukon, right?
This is, this is obviously a rivalry known nationwide.
UMass Yukon, a legit, like, blood feud up there in the Northeast.
2% owned Jalen John has 100 yards each of the past two games.
Rant for 100 against Georgia.
And now they're playing Yukon.
I know Yukon's good, but dude, you asked on with you with Georgia.
It's a new look.
They fired Don Brown.
Now that it's a new look, they're rallying.
or I don't know.
Okay, 2% owned if you need them.
There you go.
Dynasty purchase, Bryson Donaldson, Fresno, true freshman.
Just a little bit here, a little bit there, blew up this week for getting dinged up.
It's only 1% owned as a true freshman.
Like, you want to have a piece of Fresno's running back situation.
In fact, I was hoping maybe JD, that's your backyard, buddy.
You got anything on Bryson Donaldson for us?
No, other than they really love him and there's a lot of chatter in the offseason.
And it's like, okay, he's getting some carries.
Let's see exactly what's going on.
And wow, he looked really good.
He looked better than the hype.
So I think he's next up.
I mean, where are they headed, right?
Like, Gilliam is banged up.
Sherrod.
They haven't been in a hurry to bring back.
It's been banged up.
I see no reason why it would change.
That's a fantastic call.
He's playing UCLA, which, like, you don't love.
Otherwise, I would say he's the pickup of the week, man.
He's his stuff.
Good stuff, boys.
That's all I got.
I like it.
What else you got, G.
Nothing to add.
Donaldson's really good.
Nice.
Yeah, I figured I could throw you a layup with that one.
Yeah, that was a layup.
Fresno guy.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
What about you, Joshua?
I got Al J. Henderson, right?
Buffalo, dude.
He's at 13%.
Oh, Al J. Henner?
Shut up.
He's still at 13% Illinois?
Yes.
I checked a few different leagues.
He's owned everywhere because anybody, you know, you know.
Yeah.
I feel like we birthed Al J. Henderson on this program.
I remember talking about him weeks ago where it's like, hey, we're getting into Mac.
Al J. Henderson time.
And oh, my God, he was so much better than even I ever could have projected.
I can't believe he's 13%.
It could be because he's hit late, right?
And so maybe it's just people aren't doing waivers at this point.
But Al J. Henderson, 13%.
Robert Henry, right?
And here's one where I would say he was 8%.
But like maybe don't pick them up because they play Army.
And Army's been unbelievable against the run this year.
I mean, Notre Dame, right?
Recency bias.
Like they killed it, but that's Notre Dame.
Nobody in the American Athletic Conference has rushed for 70 more yards as a team,
like running backs wise as a team have rushed for more than 70 yards against Army.
So look, I think Robert Henry has obviously looked unbelievable the last two weeks.
But if you pick him up and start him, he could hurt you this week.
And so I would just move with caution there.
I think they're going to have to move the ball through the air in order to beat Army.
And then Xavier Robinson for Oklahoma.
I think he had 18 touches.
The second closest running back had four.
They were playing LSU this week.
Sochuk had a touch.
We got you had a Gavin Sautchuk sighting.
A siding.
Yeah.
And a lot.
Yeah.
And Robert, he, Xavier just burned his red shirt last week so we know he's going to play.
This one.
And then last one, a little deep cut here.
But Devante Lyons, his guy mentioned last week for FIU, 16 carries for 96 yards last week.
So he got more touches.
They play Middle Tennessee this week.
Middlet Tennessee is very poor against the run.
It's a little bit of a risk to start him because, I mean, he's only gotten 10 points and then 11 points.
but Will, I just might start him against you this week.
And might bench Nate Noelle in favor of Sponte Lions.
So we'll see.
We'll see.
Can't blame you.
Can't blame you.
Yep.
That's all I got for that.
Let's take a quick break, our last break, and then we'll get into wide receivers and tight-ins.
All right.
Froton, what you got on wide receivers?
Tell us Joseph Williams.
I mean, you can't be ignored anymore.
He's 12% owned.
He's had 100 yards in each of the past three games.
Popped off last week.
I mean, enough is enough.
And the kids look pretty amazing doing it, to be honest.
Like some of the grabs he's put on tape, you're like, this kid is serious.
So, gotten 10, 9, and 10 targets, 112, 158, and 12, and 156, and has five touchdown receptions over the past three games.
He has been, in terms of, you talk about league winners and guys that pop up down the stretch.
Joseph Williams, if you've had him in your lineup
over the past two weeks in the playoffs,
you are probably a reason you're in your finals
because he's been incredible.
So at only 12% owned, yeah, you got a.
Oh, you have, yeah, there you go.
50 teamer.
Oh, God, damn.
What a profit.
When did you pick him up?
What week?
Do you remember?
Maybe week nine or 10.
That late?
Yeah.
Oh.
That's a big one.
If you're deeper, well, I'll go with 14% owned is next.
We talked about him a little bit earlier.
Emmett Mosley for Stanford.
I mean, you want to talk about a guy who's had a pretty nice,
linear progression as the season has gone on,
is dinged up a little bit.
Doesn't even see the field until September 28th.
But, you know, works way up.
October 19th, gets 10 targets, has had.
at least eight targets in four of the last five games. And if you look at the last two,
he's even gotten a couple of carries, but, you know, 19 receptions over the past two games
for 231 yards and four touchdowns with two carries for seven yards, just thrown in. I mean,
you have to at least keep him, you want him on your roster. He's a true freshman. One of the few
true freshmen who was avoided a year one zero i think for dynasty purposes for the fact that they're
playing san jose state oh my god you know if you if you need a wide receiver which some some people do
do a lot worse than him uh and then just a couple more quick ones another guy talked about i don't know
if it was two weeks ago i believe j j jenkins buffalo hey he's taken over the number one role
from the informer victor snow uh 120 plus yard
Each of the past two weeks had a touchdown each of the past three weeks.
17 or more points each of the past three weeks.
I mean, I don't know.
You pretty much have to have a go at him.
And as we talked about, they're playing Kent State.
What do you think they're afraid of thrown into Jenkins?
Who's their deep threat?
I mean, he's 1% owned against Kent State.
They play tomorrow.
Why not?
Right?
So those would be, I think, the three best you could look at for the group.
Yeah, I love it.
JD got anything else?
No, not a whole lot.
I just wanted to point out Cam Coleman.
He's going to show as some 56% own,
but that's all Debbie and C2C and stuff.
So in redraft,
I think he's at the point where you have to consider starting him.
Of course, he does play at Alabama and the Iron Bowl,
which doesn't sound great,
but let's be honest, their defense is about equivalent to Texas A&M.
We saw what he just did to them.
Probably not going to do it every week,
but that's two straight weeks with nine targets.
And good Lord, Cam Coleman.
Hope it didn't come down to the night slate and DFS,
for you guys and you were debating between
Cam Coleman, Taylor Tatum,
and Joe Royer.
Hope you guys didn't click Joe Royer
because that would have been stupid.
Yeah, who would do that?
I don't know.
Yeah, the only guy
got here
is a little
a little whino.
Oh, back, back
to the,
to the well of little
Cabernet, perhaps.
A little Shane Porter.
Yes. I mean, he's what, 6% owned? They played Temple this week. And I don't know if you saw what Robert Henry did to Temple last week. But at one point, he was averaging 17 yards of carry. And Shane Porter has surprisingly gotten a lot of carries the last couple of weeks for you and he struggled. So I don't think it's out of question for him to have another 15 to 20 carry game. He's not a Cabernet, though. He's he's a white line. He's, he's definitely.
Definitely more on the Pino Blanc, you know, uh, Sun.
Yes.
Yes.
Not a red line.
I think that's a layered handicap too because, yeah, you already mentioned.
Well, they're probably going to be playing with the lead.
You would think because Temple is gross.
Anyone who would just watch the racing game can attest to that.
Proton's been talking about their defense for much of the year.
And then, yeah, Chandler Morris's shoulder.
I really don't think it's healthy.
If you remember, it was like three weeks ago, he got banged up really good.
And I was surprised he came back into that game and, like, he grounded a few balls.
And we're like, why did he miss the receiver by 15 yards?
And then ever since then, like when DT's been on his slide and then the running game's been featured.
So I think game scripts might be pretty good here for Porter.
I know he poo-pooed him last week, but I only got thought about it hard enough.
And after having three straight weeks of Morris not really slinging the ball like he was before, I think that's a really good call.
I actually think he's starting started worthy for the championship rounds.
Yeah, that's good.
It's crazy that when you get to this point, I mean, there's a level of poker in this deal.
You got to be willing to play some hands.
And, like, JD, like, you're, you know, having played you in too many championships
of the last couple of years, like, you're great at this of, like, the week 13.
Let's figure out the matchup.
Who is the Arizona running back you started against me?
I mean, I had, like, by far the better team.
I think I was over, like, three to 400 points.
Then, it was it two years ago?
The Arizona running back, that wasn't Jonah Coleman, he dropped 50 points.
Wiley?
Yes.
Wiley.
Wiley.
We got 50 points in our championship game.
And you had him and another guy.
And it's just like my team was just like clearly better than yours.
And I was like, yeah, I'm just going to ride this to the end.
And J.D. played matchups and just smoked it.
So anyways, just giving you your flowers on the fact that you're really good at figuring out these like week 13.
Just don't rest on our week 14.
Don't rest on your laurels in the championship week.
It's something that happens all the time because this year I've been on the opera.
in the end of someone like losing to the Joseph Williams and losing all these guys.
They're like, how am I losing these terrible teams?
And like just because you're ranked at this point in this season, like, throw it all out the window.
Whoever's the better play is the better play.
Because yeah, it's weird for me.
This year I'm doing like less than that more than ever, especially like Dino.
Like if you kind of stack your teams, you're doing less of it.
Whereas if you're punching up, you always have a chance.
The record means nothing, man.
These teams do crazy things.
The transfer portal happens.
Guys will play younger guys.
So like I just recommend it's really hard.
I know it's really hard.
But hopefully you get some time off work for the holidays.
you can handicap all these matchups a little more than you do.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
All right, pro, Tom, why don't you take us home with some tight ends?
Well, Dorian Fleming is, for Georgia State, is only 29% owned,
which I know for tight ends, that's pretty heftily owned.
But if you're looking for somebody you need to plug in,
he is getting absolutely drilled with targets.
The fact, he's only 29% owned, I think is pretty shocking as it is.
I mean, he's gotten 77 targets through 11 games.
So that's seven a game.
47 receptions, 540 yards, five touchdowns total.
If you remember in the preseason, I wrote a tight end column.
We talk about the fives.
You 50, 500 and five touchdowns, that is like the benchmark I look for in tight ends.
He's already there through 11.
This is the final game.
And he's going to hit that literally.
He's already there.
He's playing with house money.
Last week, five catches on eight targets, 88 yards.
Three touchdowns against Texas State.
Wow.
They're playing Coastal Carolina.
you might as well take a stab at him.
If not, Michael Trigg is 18% owned.
Baylor is playing Kansas.
I mean, I know we've talked about Trigg a couple times,
but I mean, hey, if you need to go,
Sawyer Robertson, Tom Sawyer Robertson,
modern day warrior, my guy, I love Sawyer Robertson.
He hit him four times on four targets for 96 yards
and a touch last game.
If you need a high upside shot, there you go.
Michael Trigg, they are playing.
Kansas.
Yeah.
Let's not get off Michael Trigg.
That's the one I wanted to talk about.
The three-year wait for the Michael Trigg fantasy production was worth it because they were beautiful.
They were beautiful.
Those four receptions.
I mean, wow.
Four big ones.
Another spring ball warrior right there.
That's right.
The classic Michael Trigg.
He's here.
He's waiting for you.
You need him.
Yeah.
I think these are the kind of tight ends that trick me.
And I know, like, people love to do it with Darnell Washington because it's like,
whoa, when they have the ball, they look so huge and amazing.
And it's just like, it's hard when you're like, there's a lot that goes into being a
tight end in order to earn targets, right?
And like, Trigg just clearly hasn't earned it.
But like, the staff's been talking about like all year.
Like he's a mismatched nightmare.
This is like, well, if he is, then why doesn't he ever get the ball?
Because you're like, some Robertson's had some crazy years.
But some crazy games.
And Trigg hasn't been a part of him.
But he looks fantastic.
I wouldn't mind, Trick.
I wouldn't mind. He's the one guy I want to talk about the other guy because it's clearly a
prototype with me, a Shaman Matyre for Arizona State.
I can't help but watch every time this guy gets at the ball, it's like, good Lord, he's a freak.
But I guess his maybe maybe getting open isn't quite as easy for him.
But a good offensive coach and they need to win this game.
So I wouldn't hate either those two guys.
Well's over here. He says I'm absolutely terrified of possibly having to rely on trig this week.
Do you guys, well, his 50 team are tied in is, is Fanon.
And so if he has to rely on trig, that means that Fannin doesn't play.
I might, well, if you're, if you are listening right now, my father-in-law is a bowling green alum.
And he's pretty confident that that Fiannon's going to play.
So you got a man at that chance to go.
Yeah.
He needs the Mackey.
For sure.
They got to boost the stats out this week.
He needs to win the Mackey award.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, he's freaking leading the nation in receiving yards.
Is that correct?
I don't know if he was by the end of the week.
but crazy stat.
It's between a possible Mackey winner
and the Spring Game Mackey winner.
So, you know, it's like you can't go wrong.
They're to measure it.
Totally, totally.
I just had this realization of like,
if I just never watched Spring Game Ball,
like I'll be a better fantasy drafter.
I mean, Trigg, Dionne Burks that Froton talked about earlier.
Who's the other guy that...
He had so much hype to see.
I cannot believe all the hype.
It was obnoxious.
Remember when people were hype in the wide receiver at GA Hall?
I can't remember how to say.
A guy.
A guy.
Everybody's like,
wide receiver won,
Bama,
because he was like crushing.
Yep,
he had a couple of catches.
If we just all don't watch spring ball,
we'll be fine.
Our analysis will be infinitely better.
Yeah,
no,
you're right.
That's my fault.
That's a wrap.
I'm good.
You got anybody for the tight ends?
You know,
I'm just going deep cut here,
man.
I don't really have anything.
Pat Cronroy didn't.
And, you know, okay last week for O'DU.
But Jermaine Terry at 2% of 5% of 6 targets for 92 yards and his first TD of the year.
Look, I don't, who knows?
I mean, Terry has gotten a decent number of targets.
And they do play Boise State this week, which Boise State's very good at rushing the quarterback.
And I believe that Oregon State's giving up maybe two and a half sacks a game.
So it could be something where they try to get the ball out.
out a little bit quicker.
Do we know what Toobner played last week?
I didn't watch that game at all.
I know two weeks ago he was in a walking boot and didn't play.
He's their best guy by far outside.
I know they have good front floor.
But other than that, it's pretty beautiful guys.
And Toobner's an absolute monsters.
That'd be a huge plus to Terry if he doesn't.
So I'd check that one.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
So anyways, that's a matchup.
I mean, him and Trent Walker are obvious.
It's targets this week for Oregon State.
And they should get
Pepper 8.
Yeah, I was going to put them on here again.
But I was like, you know, if you guys haven't picked them up by now,
you know, a amount of times.
We did a little.
There's been a lot of Trent Walker talk, I want to say, on this show.
And then by proxy, like props, too.
In the early middle portion of the season,
we were getting Trent Walker receiving props at like four and a half,
five and a half receptions.
Just slaying them every week.
He was.
Trent Walker was definitely a friend of the program this year.
Yeah.
Well, this is our last show, official show of the year.
I think we might do a bowl show potentially if anybody's interested in that.
This is our last official show, Josh?
I didn't even realize that.
Yeah.
Like gosh.
Whoa.
Look, we've gone almost an hour and 10 minutes.
Thank you guys for hanging with us, Proton, JD.
This has been a blast, JD.
You are last minute, amazing addition to the CFFFL axis.
crew this year.
Yeah, when Bambridge stiffed us.
Yeah, but you've done just an incredible job.
And look, I mean, one of the takeaways from this year in general is if you,
not just listen to the show, but if you work the waiver wire, you could have had an
incredible team this year.
So it's like, that's the beauty of college fantasy football is that you can have a
terrible draft and you can make it up in the end by getting good waiver wire ads.
And that's really what we built this show around.
and going like, hey, in the offseason, we want to help you do the best you can in drafting,
but then really in season, it's these type of things, the Bryson Daley's, the Blake Corvaths,
those type of guys that can really lead you.
And then at the end of the year, the Joseph Williams, right, the Garrett Greens last year,
that can lead you down the path.
And these are all Waverwire pick up.
So, you know, thank you guys for staying with us and listening to us.
And we'll be back next year and doing this.
And we got playoff time coming up in bowl games.
And so we're going to try to do a little bowl mania.
And I would love for you guys to join us if you'd like to.
J.D. Eric, you guys got anything to say before we sign off here?
Yeah, I mean, we started this, Josh, you and I.
We've been here since, what was it, March?
When did we start?
Yeah, March.
15, middle March, right?
Yeah.
My gosh, started this whole thing from cloth, you know, essentially from scratch.
And we've done it.
Dude, I only think I've missed maybe two shows since March.
I've been here almost every week.
I think during the season, I don't think I missed one.
It was that the hell travel day I had coming back from Auburn through Atlanta.
That was the only one I missed during the season.
And, you know, probably maybe one or two others during the summer.
But I was here pretty much every week.
It's just amazing to think.
Yeah, it's been us.
It's amazing to think how, I mean, it's over already.
The NFL guys don't realize how good they have it.
You know, like we've completely transitioned now.
Like in props, in fantasy, like it all changes from this point forward from week 14
to where it's bowl season now.
So that's part of the fun.
That's part of the glory of college fantasy.
I'm just thrilled that we have the opportunity to do the show,
that fantasy points, I want to give a shout out to them and how they supported this show
and they took a chance and putting us on the air. Jadies come on and help us keep the momentum going
into the season. Obviously, you've been an instrumental edition, but, you know, without fantasy
points going and believing in us and wanting to expand their college fantasy lineup,
none of this, we wouldn't be here, you know? So I just have nothing but respect and thanks for,
for anybody, whoever the decision maker was who greenlit this.
I don't know, Josh.
You know all the things behind the scenes.
I don't.
But whoever that was, thank you.
Thank you to our producer.
The Great London.
Thomas Tipple.
Obviously, Trey, our other two producers, we got two of them.
And Bainbridge, Zach.
And then that's it.
That's our crew.
Josh, J.D., Bainbridge, Zach, myself, for all of us.
I just want to thank everybody for watching,
and I can't wait to do it again next year.
We'll probably start right around the first Champions League draft.
Is that about right?
Yeah, that's right, Mark.
Yes, sir.
All right.
Until then, do small things of great love.
