Fantasy Football Daily - College Football Spring Games Galore | College Fantasy Football All Access

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

On this episode of CFF All Access, the guys discuss several key spring games from the last two weekends with CFF implications for the 2024 season and beyond. Enjoy this livestream and take your game to the next level with CFF All Access. Make sure to follow us for more valuable college fantasy football content! Subscribe to FantasyPoints for FREE - https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/ Where to find us:   / cffguys     / cffroton     / cffchamps   https://twitter.com/ FantasyPoints Website - https://www.fantasypoints.com NEW! Data Suite - https://data.fantasypoints.com Twitter -   / fantasypts   Facebook -   / fantasypts   Instagram -   / fantasypts   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Get the yes you've been waiting for at Capital One.ca.ca. slash yes terms and conditions apply it's time to the fantasy points podcast brought to you by fantasy points dot com top level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle from numbers to the film room with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points americ frotan this is the cff all access podcast where today we will be through a spring game roundup of eight different games but first did want to close the book on the quarterbacks. We finished out and rounded out the bottom five of our top 10.

And I did want to close the book on that because I was unable to be here last week. However, when we brought up the great Jackson Arnold, when we first had that discussion before Michael Bainbridge, who will be joining us shortly, was able to have a pretty robust discussion about him last week. We had not had the Oklahoma Spring game. So I am extremely excited to talk to our esteemed panel about how they feel about Jackson Arnold after that spring game. And then we will get into the rest of them.

So without any further ado, Josh Chevalier, Michael Bainbridge, and of course, Zach Hall, my friends. I didn't let them know what the open was going to be. And I was going to come at him about Jackson Arnold since I didn't have the chance to talk to my friend Josh and Zach, who ranked him 14th QB overall. before the magical spring game performance we saw out of Jackson. I'll, Josh, how badly do you feel that you, you disrespected Jackson Arnold by not having him in the top 10

after seeing that amazing spring game? Dude, I am so excited that you brought up Jackson Arnold in the Oklahoma Spring game. Because I want to ask you. Oh, no, I know what this is going. How bad do you feel for questioning Mike Bainbridge about our boy, Dionne Burks? because I don't know, man, that guy looked pretty good in that spring game.

So I'm turning it back to you. What's a couple of touchdowns, right? A couple of touchdowns. A couple hundred yards, you know? I am glad you brought up Dionne Burks, though, to be honest with you. Because don't think I haven't done my homework on Dionne Burks, and I'm not ready to reinforce my take on Mr. Berks. By the way, do you know that Dionne Burks last year at Purdue, right?

The throw on the ball, the measure of how a CFF receiver is going to perform is how they're going to get 100 targets? Well, our friend Dionne Burks got 95, all right? He caught 47 of them. That's a sub 50% catch rate over there in Purdue. But somehow Dionne Burks, oh, watch out against the second team defense. You don't know why I'm not impressed with Dionne Burks? In those 95 targets, 629 yards, okay? Pedestrian. You know who he was very adept at doing? He's really good at dropping passes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 15% percent. drop rate for our friend Dionne Burks there is one of the highest in the nation. That's top 10. You know, in an ignominious stat, you don't want to be top 10 in. But what happens when, you know,

it's a contested catch situation, when he's not streaking bare naked down the field against a second team defense in the spring game? Oh, yeah. He caught over his career seven of 32 contested targets, a robust 22% contested catch rate. on six of his targets. He had 95 targets last year. Six of them went for interceptions. This is from Dylan Gabriel, who transferred over to Oregon, right,

to take over for Bo Nix and to light the world on fire for 40 points a game. So forgive me if I'm not enamored with the profile of Mr. 510, 511, 190, Dionne Burks, and his frying pan-like hands. Okay, Josh?

I need to see more from Dionne Burbs. Nick Anderson was hurt. I have him as being probably a day two wide receiver next year if he chooses to come up. So that's how I feel about Dionne Berks's little, little explosion. Michael, how do you feel? Well, I feel redeemed because I was scolded for taking Dionne Burks in 13th, 14th round. So I wonder how you feel about Kyle Francis taking Dionne Burks in the sixth round in our latest draft after the spring game. Overreaction, Michael. It's an overreaction. reaction. It's called sample size. And I just gave you the biggest sample size we got on him and his 22% contested catch rate. Mr. Dionne Burks, if he's not streaking naked, he's not catching the ball,

okay? And that's what he got to do against the second team defense. Wait until Nick Anderson's out there. Julio Fruke also not out there for the spring. And what, Jane Gibson too, I think, did not play exactly. The praying mantis himself, six foot five, six foot six, Jaden Gibson, who on a per catch basis? was pretty effective. It wasn't on the touchdown part. But again, point being, I was scolded for taking Diann Berks in the 14th round.

Would you take Diann Berks in the 14th round now, Mr. Proton? Yes. Okay. And Frotan, I just, I love how your argument against Deon Burks as he was playing against the second team. That's right. Which your boy, Jackson Ardell,

was also throwing against the second team. And pretty much all of his yards came with our boy, Leon Birx catching the ball. So, you know, was it Dionne Berks? Was it Jackson Arnold? Maybe we'll have that question to answer because they're just going to both crush it. We'll see. All right. Fair enough. I'm glad you brought up, since we're closing the book on quarterbacks, my friend Josh, I think it's only fair that we do go to the tape, you know? And Josh didn't know I was going to do this here. But on our text thread, okay, speaking of quarterbacks, I got DMs from Cats, our friend Andrew Katz, the Grand Anur Katz,

asking whether Arch was going to replace Quinn, L-O-L. Ha-ha, ha, not happening unless Quinn defecates the bed. We'll use that word. We'll say defecates the bed. Are you kidding me right now, guys? Are you kidding me? Did you see that? Did we watch the same thing with Arch there looming over Quinn yours?

every single snap that's coming for this season, right? You think that in the fourth quarter when Texas is blowing a team out, we're not going to see a healthy dose of Arch. He went, again, we want to talk about the 14th round. He went, I think, in the 13th. I think J.D. took him. Mr. Electricity, J.D. Yankee, took him, I think, on the 13th or 14th round.

I think that is a catastrophe, and that you were, especially if you don't go and get Arch, if you're not going to do the double up, right, and burn one of those QB spots on two QBs, which means you have to go seven QBs instead of six, right? If you're going to do that, you have to have them. Because either he's going to be getting snaps. I mean, he's going to get one out of every four series.

They're going to be trotting Arch Manning out there. It's simply happening. You are leaving your flank exposed, and especially in a best ball format, like we're doing the Champions League, you're going to go and you risk just tossing away one spot, just tossing it away. And one of the most important things. And the reason why I was so successful last year, Zach, I mean, maybe you can speak to this because you did end up winning it, even though I just ran out of time and you know I was coming for you.

But security is so important when you're doing best ball leagues in March, in April, in May, knowing, Drew Eller, is he the best quarterback? No. Is he going to be able to crank out snaps? Yes. Fowler Nicolosi for Colorado State. I feel like he's been kind of undervalued, you know, in the early 20s. He is going to be throwing a lot of passes. We know, we know that's going to happen.

And I think the security in best ball formats is something that knocks down yours, in my opinion, and makes him, I mean, essentially a dart throw as opposed to somebody I invest in the 13th round. That brings up a great point, Troton, of whether, uh, do spring games matter or not? And we are going to have a whole show on spring games alone. and really wrestle down to this question and get the answer to it. But before we do that, we are going to take a break here. And when we come back, we'll be discussing spring games. And maybe a little archmanning quinures.

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We were burned too many times of betting over on a very realistic 60 and a half receiving line prop for Xavier Worthy. Three or four times we did that and U-Wers can't hit the broadside of a bar. So no surprise that Proton feels about the Texas courts. There's a whole clip of receivers streaking down the field. I think specifically worthy over the past couple of seasons and you were just over chucking them. Man, I know you got the big arm, but I wish he'd set his feet a little more and like drive through the ball as opposed to kind of just flicking the ball downfield, which, you know, with velocity, because he's got, it's a great arm that he's got. He can throw those field side outs like nothing, you know, 15-yarder. But man, he sails him sometime.

He gets on his toes, you know? Yeah. I wish I wish you should clean her. I'm not, I'm not there. And seeing the way arched through, I don't, I don't feel good about putting viewers on any of my best ball roster. No way. Yeah. No, I hear that. I mean, I just think Sark is a stubborn dude. Sark's going to do what he's going to do. But look, you were throwing 15 to 20 yards and in is one of the best quarterbacks in college football. Unfortunately, Sark. He wants to bomb it for the first quarter and a half. And, you know, I don't know. I agree with everything you're saying. I think that Arch is a much better fit for what Sark wants to do. I just think, man, narrative street. If he can somehow get through the season with Quinn, and he's a first or second round pick next year in a pretty wide open draft. There's not a lot of dominant QBs.

Yeah, there's Carson Beck, and we all know it. Carson Beck is the dominant QB. I'm disgusted by people like, oh, it's just nobody to look at. It's Carson Beck. Come on. It was there last year when I took him in all our C2C leagues. You know I was gobbling him up and all the reasons why I finished in second place. I was all over Carson Beck.

And you should continue to be. He is the number one pick. I'm putting in a 2025 mock draft. That's happening. Team Carson Betel. But really helpful for college fantasy, right, with those negative rushing yards. He is going to have negative. The Shadurr Sandler special in his 49 sacks, yeah.

Negative rushing yards guaranteed. Yeah. Well, real quick question, and then we'll get into these actual spring games. Who gets drafted first? Uers or DJU? Uers are DJU in NFL? Yeah. fantasy or NFL NFL NFL oh you were you yeah I felt that yeah but uh geez in college

fantasy now obviously beforehand it was certainly certainly yours I mean DJ you was he he was going like 27th 28th I want to say NFL oh yeah I feel great about you or Shane yeah our boy Shane win it yeah well you know speaking of DJU Shane that's our first times in game this year I swear and we're going to have to hang out this time Kevin Coleman our buddy check it in Hey, Kevin. Kevin, you send me a Michigan hat. Yeah. You sent me a Michigan helmet and it's going right up there. Right, right.

Oh, wow. So. Bainbridge is on board with that plane. I love it. I love it. That's what, Mike, that's what you can get me for doing your wedding. A Michigan helmet. Oh, now we're talking.

Now we're talking boys. All right. Yeah. All right. So we're going to talk about spring games. We got eight of them on the docket for today. We got 45 minutes left in the show. see if we can hit all eight. I doubt we do, but that's our challenge for the night.

And for us, we're going to start with FSU. And FSU is a team that's got DJU, the guy we were just talking about and deciding whether it's going to be DJU or Quinn Ewers picked first. In this spring game, DJU did not look very good. I think of stats on the day were 12 of 27 for 177 yards. they started out in their spring game. They did a lot of Red Zone work to start. And then they did a few quarters worth of action.

And it was DJU and he was pretty much throw into Malik Benson was really his big target that he went after. And so Malik Benson got hurt about halfway through the spring game. I will say Malik Benson looks like he's going to be okay. He's going to be ready for camp. Looks like it was just a tweaked ankle. Roydale Williams had five carries for 51 yards. he looked pretty good at a 30-yard touchdown during the spring game.

Jalen Lucas, transfer from Indiana. He looked awesome. He's a guy that I could totally see fitting into kind of that tailback role. Tony Pollard played that role, kind of a hybrid, wide receiver, running back role that Mike Norvell likes to unleash when he has those type of guys that can be both a runner and a receiver. But really, it was Roy Dell Williams, Jalen Lucas, and Malik Benson, that really stole the show from me, DJU. Again, looked iffy.

We didn't see any of the young quarterbacks as both of them were hurt, so they didn't play in the spring game. And then Cam Davis, the freshman running back that a lot of people have is their RB1 and Debbie. He did not play either due to injury. So really hard to kind of figure out the backup. running back situation and what what really fSU has in the future although i know they're really high on their younger quarterbacks and then uh that running back cam davis as well so outside of those those guys there really wasn't much here i think to talk about but what did you guys did you guys get to watch the game what do you guys see what are your what are your takes on in c f florida state

this year like do they have options that you guys are going after at value and best balls you guys at with fs u i've got some roydell williams shares uh i had some in dynasty coming in regardless i know specifically our industry dynasty league that we do uh 16 teamer but i expect him to have the the the tray benson rb one role in the when it comes to lucas you know he's not as you said he is a straight satellite back and a plus return man so he had less than 300 yards rushing in each of the last two years. They had four yards of carry last year at Indiana. Just simply not what he does, but he, you know, got 53 targets, which is elite for a running back. So like you're saying, he's definitely got that third downback profile. Problem is you got Toa Philly, right? He's still in

the backfield. And he was excellent at that last year. You know, he's slightly built in his frame. He's more, you know, straight up and down as opposed to, you know, rocked up. But he has the ability, when he gets in space to rip off chunk plays. And it's going to be interesting to see how that three-man weave because Norville loves to have multiple backs that he rotates through. It remains to be seeing just how high-end we can get Roydell Williams based on that three-man sort of share that he likes to do over there at Florida State. I have a couple.

Like I said, I have him in the 15th round. It was right around where he's going in the expert. Best ball leagues are we doing right now. now, which, I mean, if he gets the kind of share that Benson did last year, especially towards the end of the season, I mean, he'll be worth it. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. What do you guys think, Mike and Zach?

I'm in, I'm in on DJU, simply for a, from a floor perspective. And I was just looking back at the, if you look back at Mike Norbell's quarterback over the last decade, just one quarterback failed to hit a 20 point per game average. So I think you get a really high floor with DJU. You know, passing ability aside, we know he's going to get some goal line touches because of his size and his running ability. So I like the floor where he's at and you don't have to spend too much draft capital, get him probably, you know, in between that 15 to 20 round range.

So if you're starting, if you're doing a late QB strategy, I think he's, he's a good place to start with maybe as your QB2, QB3, if you're bypassing the early quarterbacks. Outside of that, I mean, Josh, I mean, you can probably speak to this too. Like, I think you were probably, you had the most shares of Malik Benson last year. And for obvious reasons that did not pan out, could we see a bump this year? I think so. From reading all reports, he's established himself as the wide receiver one there.

Doesn't seem like anybody else has really stepped forward in that group. So I think Malik Benson, Reido Williams, DJU, and then, you know, kind of a crap shoot after that. Yeah, I'd be interested to see, and we know that historically with Norvell, just that Memphis offense in general, wherever it's, it's sort of his tree has gone, be of Kevin Johns, you know, Silverfield, who's there right now. There's a lot of times they want to give you a wide receiver one, you know, Demonte Coxie, Calvin Austin, sort of a mold from those guys. and you couldn't do it last year because you had Johnny Wilson and Coleman so they had to split that work on the outside. I think you could

see Benson in the absence of a viable wide receiver two get the lion's share of what was divided up amongst two guys last year making him pretty attractive. What's his ADP Ben? I want to say right around 10-11, if

anecdotally. I think so it was around the 20th round and it's been moving up in like you're kidding you using the 20th okay oh yeah okay yeah so he's moving up in like the 15th round ADP but he's very afford you know very affordable and like honestly like I i Florida state needs to go into the portal and get a wide receiver too or they're going to be hurting and I do think like Benson fits that profile love that you brought up Calvin Austin because he fits right that profile of the traditional Mike norval let's just run a nine

route and go and they like to do that a ton And that just wasn't Keon Coleman and Johnny Wilson's game as much. No, definitely not. So, but you see Mike Benson more with that ability and you see DJU, like if he's just got to make that decision, right? I mean, that's a throw that he can make for sure. Gosh, you'd like to see one of Hakeem Williams. Like, when's it going to be his turn? You'd love to see that happen.

I mean, highly rated, Destin Hill might be over if they go in the portal for him. It's like, come on. And I think he got hurt. If I'm not mistaken, I don't know. I think it's a pretty severe injury. And Hiking Williams just, you know, according to reports, he just hasn't taken the next step getting his development. So it's just like, you know, what are they going to do here?

They were hoping he would be the one to step into that role. And that hasn't happened. Not good for your CTC and dynasty shares. Yeah. Quick question here. Shane asked how bad was Benson's ankle injury. Reports are from insiders at FSU that. It's not that bad.

He'll be back for the fall. He should be fine. Just a tweak. When they were, you know, I saw reports that, you know, he got carded off. And they made it sound so bad before I actually got to watch the game. I was like, man, this guy's cooked. But luckily, I think he's going to be okay. And he's going to be able to come back fine for them.

So, you know, look, I think some of this is good news for Malik Benson in the sense of there's not a clear wide receiver too. And Roydell Williams, again, if he gets that Trey Benson role, which he looks like he's very capable of doing, and they may need him to do that, then he's going to be really viable too. And he's, again, he's going, I've been getting in mid-20s every draft. It's just a sweet spot to get Roydale Williams.

And so if his ADP doesn't move up, and that's nice. Go ahead, Zach. Yeah, I was just going to say, I really like Roydell Williams where he's going right now. I mean, there's 80 running backs going ahead of him. in drafts. And the one thing that's always scared me off of Florida State just a little bit, ever since Norville got there, we haven't had a thousand nerd rusher yet or receiver. But running back is inching closer and closer every year. And we saw Benson go with nine touchdowns

and then 14. So I think this is a year where I don't know if he's going to hit those Benson numbers, but it's definitely looked better the last two years than it did the first two. So I think that Roydell Williams value was great. And kind of back to Mike's point, too, DJU, where there's 45 quarterbacks going ahead of him and just with the potential upside that you can get in this system, that seems like a really good value. And last, Josh, you keep, I feel like you keep trying to push me to bump up Benson's projection. I'm not ready to do it yet.

But maybe we'll get there. A man can try. What do you guys think about this question? So Twafili, I mean, you hit on him, Froton. I mean, he is talented. And again, the report's coming out of campus that he's really taking another step. But do you think he's a threat to Roydell Williams or, you know, they always have a two-back system.

So personally, I'm not too concerned, but what do you think? He's going to get his work. I mean, he was there last year. So he would be viewed as the incumbent. but it's pretty obvious what his skill set is. Again, he's on the thinner range. He's not going to be grinding out the tough yards that I see the roll that one, two down roll.

I think you're going to get out of Roydell Williams. I think he's pretty clearly the passing down back and you will see him sort of spell in, you know, with three down packages. Because why not? I mean, he's an explosive rusher. If you've watched the Florida State games past couple years, he has a knack for when that offense is kind of, they need kind of a kick. You know, they need a little jump star like, all right, you know, it's been sluggish for a little bit. They lean on him a little bit and he can hit those 15-yard trunk plays.

So I do think he will have a substantial role. And I think that's what's suppressing Roydell Williams. But I do think that Roydell Williams will have the lion's share role. he will certainly have the short yardage and goal line role. I mean, we saw, like you said, 14 touchdowns out of Trey Benson last. I think he should eventually carve that out. And down the stretch, he will get that sort of two-thirds share that, you know, he asserts himself with. My call.

Yeah. No, I like that. Hey, we're going to take a quick break here in a minute. But before we do, I want to throw up this question. And we're going to talk about this question when we come back. It's how do you see, if at all, Edwards impacting Giddens projections for the season? Mike, I want you to take that question. I want you to answer it.

And then we're going to talk about Oregon spring game after this break. All right. We're back. Andy Ewald asked the question, how do you see if at all Edwards, that's Dylan Edwards transfer from Colorado to Kansas State that happened today or yesterday? How do you see him impacting Gidden's projections for this season? I personally didn't touch. I've already updated this.

I didn't really touch DJ Giddens' numbers much at all, maybe a slight decrease. But I really bumped up. It was a situation, and we talked about this all offseason of the reason we like DJ Giddon so much is because there's nobody behind him, right? So realistically, my numbers were really impacted at the RB2 spot. I mean, this is a team in Kansas State that's going to run the football 55 to 60% of the time. So, you know, it's going to be a run-based offense. So really, I think I touched DJ Gidden's projection down slightly in the passing game just because that's where Dylan Edwards specializes.

And I haven't, you know, this just happened yesterday. So I haven't read up a ton on it. But I kind of viewed, and maybe you guys disagree, I kind of viewed Dylan Edwards edition as a, they needed a running back too. But I think Giddens is clearly off to the NFL after this year. I look at Dylan Edwards. 20-25 kind of addition more so than him impacting. Yeah, I agree with that. I don't think I have any.

Because he had Trayshon Ward there all year anyways, given towards the end of the year, 21, 31, 28 carries. But besides those last three games of the year for Giddens, he only eclipsed 18 carries one time. And that was against UCF, which UCF just bred shootouts. I mean, it's just what they did last year when he popped.

He 30 carries 207 yards. But, you know, up until those last three games, you know, 300-yard games on the scene. It wasn't like he was really tearing the top off. And we're kind of projecting Giddens based on the volume that he got towards the end of the season when he had 21 points, 18 and a half, 17 and a half, 32. But then if you look at the games right before that last four set, seven and a half, 26, 30. 7, 13, 61, 8, 7, 13. So it was, he took a little while to ramp up to where he's at now.

You know, and I don't think that the addition of, he cut his teeth, he paid his dues. I don't think the addition of Dylan ever was hurt him. Plus, Dylan's so little. He's like, that comes, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think, and I was looking at this too,

and the reason I didn't touch it down too much, and I'm really not going to adjust DJ Giddon's rankings. If you look back two years ago, DJ Giddens had 90-some carries as the running back two, and Duce Fawn still finished as the top three running back C. So I don't see this addition impacting his projection too too much, except maybe in the passing game where obviously. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. I think that's a good point. What about you, Zach? It's someone who does projections.

This is going to affect you at all for Giddens? I would say along the same lines as Mike, I don't anticipate changing his projection too much. I really struggled with the RB2 here. And our projection for RB2 was lower than where it typically is in this system. So I think it just kind of gives us that RB2. And like Mike touched on, I mean, we've seen, you know, this a running back get. I mean, last year, Treschen Ward had 125 attempts. We've seen that when they were at North Dakota State where that second back was getting over 100 attempts,

but that RB1 was still really valuable. I don't know. You know, I was looking at a little bit earlier today, and I just didn't see myself adjusting Giddens' projection much at all if we even touch it. Yeah, totally agree. Love it. I like it. And hey, Mike, why don't you take us on to Oregon?

We had an Oregon Spring game this weekend. And give it to us, man. What did you like? What did you not like? Yeah, I would say if you have invested, at least from my perspective, if you have invested in Oregon players in early best balls. I think you were pretty pleased with how the Oregon spring game went. Dylan Gabriel, a consensus top four quarterback in college fantasy this year.

You know, I think it was a seamless transition. He completed 14 of 21 passes for 163 yards and two touchdowns. Seems like it's going to be just a seamless fit into this offense. I thought the big, you know, and I've seen it mentioned too, I thought it was really noticeable to how good the backup quarterbacks played. It's been, you know, I think everybody kind of assumed that Dante Moore is the QB2, and I would have him as a movie two right now as well. But I don't think there's a big difference between him and Austin Novusad in the spring game.

So if you have invested in dynasty shares of Austin Novusad, if it's not at Oregon, it's going to be somewhere else. So you should be happy with his performance. in the spring game as well. The biggest takeaway, I think, for me actually, was, and I was surprised by this, Jordan James. And I know, look, everybody likes him. I know Froton's going to talk about how many dynasty shares of Jordan James that he has.

And it wasn't even his running, like, we all know he could run the football, right? He had five receptions in the spring game. And, I mean, if I hadn't really had his projection anywhere close to what. what Marquise Irving did last year with 61 targets in 14 games. But man, if he can come close to that, I have him, you know, I think right now I have him between 15 and 20, maybe a little bit higher than that, but he's closer to top 10 range for me if he's going to get that kind of usage in the passing game. So seeing those five receptions out of him was really promising for his outlook in 2020.

running back two, I think, is still up for grabs at the moment, knowing Whittington did not play in this game. FCS transfer, Jay Harris did play in this game. He's been getting some hype in the spring practices. And he, you know, to some, not Josh, but he looked apart to end the spring game. So I think, you know, Jordan James had 11 touchdowns as the running back two behind Irving last year. So people can kind of spending some draft capital at the end. of best fall drafts on one of those two. Wide receiver, I think they both looked apart, right? You're happy with Tess Johnson and Evan Stewart.

Debatable as to who is ranked higher. I think all three of you guys had Evan Stewart as the higher ranked wide receiver. I am the opposite. I trust Tess Johnson a bit more than Evan Stewart right now. But both obviously are going to be drafted in the top three rounds of agency drafts. And they look good, both of them. So I don't think there's really a ton of bust factor with those two. But I would say this.

And this is aside from Jordan James' receiving ability, it was notable to me, and Will Stein mentioned this. And then the beat writer mentioned this after the game. They can see Oregon using more than four receivers more often this year, right? last year was primarily Tess, Gary Bryant, Trayshon Holden,

and then Troy Franklin. And not a lot of wide receivers outside of that got a lot of playing time. Notable that, you know, it's been mentioned a few times now that, you know, some of those underclassmen

behind them, specifically Jury and Dickie, could find their way into the lineup more often. So while I do say that, you know, I think these guys, Ted Johnson, Evan Stewart, should comfortably, be in the top two to three rounds, that could throw a wrenching into those plans right there if they

start, you know, incorporating Dickie and Kyle Casper and some of those underclassmen. I think, again, Jordan James, receiving ability, and then the potential for, you know, more than the top four wide receivers being utilized were kind of my big takeaways from this in spring game. Yeah, I actually listened to an Oregon podcast from 247 after the spring game. They said something like six to seven wide receivers could rotate. So I did hear that, you know, from them. So it is interesting.

I just can't see. I mean, Test Johnson's so dynamic and so fast. There's a drop off between him and Gary Bryant or whoever else you're going to try to throw in there at slot. And yeah, Evan Stewart, you know, he's a future first round pick in the NFL draft. So it feels hard for me. It feels like it affects whatever, whoever the wide receiver three is going to be, Trayshon Holden or. you know, Gary Bryant more than it has anybody else, just because I can't see them, you know,

rotating that much with those two. But what do you guys think, Froton, Zach, are you guys concerned about that? Yeah, I mean, when it comes to Stewart, you know, the way he was used last year at Texas A&M, it was a 75 to 25 ratio, you know, from wide to slot. So I do think that you will be able to see him flex inside. It doesn't always have to be,

especially in four wide sets. I think most of the time you probably see him go inside, have Dickie move out, you know, who's the more prototypical 6-3, 6-4, on the other side with Taj Holden. Actually, not Taj Holden there, right? Trachon. Trayshon.

Trayshon, not Taj Holden. Tage Holden is a former center for Maryland on the Maryland National Championship team back in the day. And I actually played rec league basketball against him, I took a charge against Tage Hold. He's a large man. He said me flying into the wall.

So that being said, yeah, Trayshon Holden on the other side. Old friend Trayshon Holden, Alabama. Good for Trayshon Holden. It's escaping the Alabama vortex, you know, hitting the portal and making him so. Nothing. I do love F.N. Stewart and Tess Johnson. I mean, all you have to do is watch some of those games. You figure out just how dynamic Tess Johnson was.

He was the guy that was moving the sticks for that offense every single time while Troy Franklin is running his Jalen Hyatt routes, you know, flying down the sideline and doing a good job of the ball tracking, but not really doing it. Both of those guys are elite. I think they will both find their way onto being targeted around double digit times per game because you're going to find a way to get those guys the ball and you get Dylan Gabriel. I'm not worried about that at all personally, no matter how many. guys you're rotating, the ball's going to find their way. I love Jordan James, as Michael alluded to, all around profile and skill set. I think he has C2C value and you have to respect it. He would be eligible for 2025. Could be a pretty damn good C2C running back class there, obviously. And I think you could see him, you know, shake out as a top 10 running back who's draft worthy,

you know, maybe filing the back end of the top five for all said and done. But he probably goes to first starting you. He'll probably pay him in Oregon to kick around. That's Zach. Yeah, not a lot to add what you guys have already said. But, you know, just after kind of seeing what these guys did, I just feel really good. Jordan James, the thing that's keeping him out of the top 10 was the receiving piece in our projections. And I think, to Mike's point, very promising there.

So it looks like that could be. a potential good value. I also, you know, how draft started, I really liked Evan Stewart's value to begin with, where you could kind of get him into that second, middle of the second is kind of pushed up. And I think we talked about this on a previous show, but Tess Johnson, where you were getting him, I started to really like his value. And then kind of after seeing this, the spring game, I'm still really liking where you can get him. I'm wondering if he'll get pushed up a little bit just based on the performance, but still feel really good about where we have those Oregon guys and what that offense is going to be this year.

Yeah, and to bring the perspective with Jordan James, too, the last two drafts that we've had in these Champions leagues, I took him last draft at 4-1 and then the previous one at 4-5. He had been going in the third round, pretty much early third round for, I think, most, the first two or three, and that's kind of changing over here. I think you see that kind of kick back over. I mean, he went behind Malik Sharad. He went behind Will Pauling, Mario Anderson, C.J. Baxter, who I know you keep drafting Jaden Blue, and the Tito himself, Orande Gadsden, who shouldn't exist.

So, you know, that kind of gives you a perspective for James. Was going kind of early third, fourth. I think he probably settles mid-third anywhere in round three. I don't think anybody's ever going to. bat and I last year taking Jordan James. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I love Jordan James. I think he's been great this year.

I will say Jay Harris, just in case somebody listening to this and think I just hate him. I don't hate him. I think Jay Harris has a lot of raw talent, but I also think he's a raw running back. He was very upright when he was running. He's very strong. But, you know, as part of this, you know, I just watch things from a Debbie lens and future NFL wins so much that that stuff sticks out to me. So, but I do think his, his raw tools at 6-2-215 are very good, but not enough to, to hinder Jordan James workload at all this year. Yeah, just to add on to that, I probably would say, like, people have been targeting Noel Whittington or even Jay Harris at the end of drafts, thinking like, oh, they're going to assume Jordan James's, like, production from last year.

And now with both, with hit Harris's performance in the spring game, I could probably see like that being split up between the two. so that might end up being a wasted selection at the end of drafts, in my opinion. Last but not a leg. Before we move on, shout out to Fergie, Terrence Ferg. He was bad. He was dropping so many balls. Come on now. He's going to be just fine.

He gets. He is. You're right. You are 100% right. He is the guy. Like, he's going to have those snaps. It's established. He's an all pack 12 RIP for all pack to.

He's going to get those reps. He's going to get some touchdowns. Nice to have as a T4 at the end of best ball drafts. Again, certainty, security. We know we're going to get out of him. And he's going to have probably five, six touchdowns again, maybe seven. Yeah. No, I agree.

He didn't look great in the spring game, but the workload looks pretty obvious. And he's a big. He kind of reminds me a stover a little bit. He's a big tight end. He's not a smooth tight end. But, I mean, he's there. He gets all those snaps. and Herbert's little brother isn't.

No. Well, let's go to a team. Yeah, let's go to a team with a little more controversy in Washington State. And, Zach, you're going to drive the bus here in Washington State. Let us know we need to know about their spring game. Yeah. So, unfortunately, I don't have Pac-12 network, so I didn't get to watch the game in full, but I was able to watch some of the highlights through some videos on YouTube.

A little bit different setup, at least that's how they portrayed it. where it wasn't necessarily the ones on offense and the twos, but they split up the teams, which was interesting, but they also had John Mateer with Josh Meredith and Kyle Williams. So I wondered if maybe they played it off like it wasn't the ones, but it feels like those were two of the top receivers coming out of the spring, at least into the spring game. So that was interesting to me.

The first play of the scrimmage was a 75-yard little trick play that they had to John Mature to the tight end Billy Revere. So that goes in his stat line as a 75-yard touchdown pass, but outside of that, Metteer ended 11 for 24 with 194 yards and two touchdowns. Rushing, he had six attempts for negative 10 yards. I don't think that's really going to be how they would use him. They weren't live, so that takes away from that quarterback round game a little bit. Then I was interested to see how Zevi Eckhaus did, who's really pushing Mityer for that QB1 spot. He was 19 for 30, but he did start out a little bit slower. He was five for four, five for 14 to start out, started to pick it up a little bit as as the scrimmage went on,

ended up with 196 yards, two touchdowns, so really similar to what Mature did. with his stat line. A couple good throws from him. He had a touchdown to Carlos Hernandez. One guy that stuck out that I don't, that he didn't do a whole lot outside of this, but a freshman running back, Weishon Parker had a nice 42-yard reception.

He looked really good on that. I don't want to get too excited about a Washington State running back, but he looks like a playmaker out there, at least from that play. So that was interesting to see a freshman kind of, mark that as a guy to keep keeping them back in my mind. I think the other piece I was really interested in is how these receivers looked and how they did. Like I said, Josh Meredith was running with Mateer. He ended up with seven targets and he went three for 49 and had that touchdown.

Kyle Williams had four targets. Just caught one for 22 yards. Carlos Hernandez, seven targets, five receptions, 65 yards in a touchdown. Had a 31-yard touchdown from at house. And then Chris Hudson, four receptions for 11 yards, but he had, he led the game with nine targets, which was interesting. He just didn't, it looked like they were really trying to get him, just get the ball on his hands and have him make some plays. Just, just wasn't really there with him. And then the running backs, which I don't think we're, we're super interested in, but the Schlenbaker, I'm not even sure how you say that. He had 16 attempts for 106 yards and a touchdown. I don't know if that's really going to be something we rely on in season,

but he did get the bulk of the carries there. Pain is kind of that RB2 right now. He had five attempts from 50 yards. And then that Waysham Parker, the guy that had that 42-yard reception, he just had one rush yard or one rush. So overall, I don't know. I'll be interested to see what you guys think. I know Josh, you still really like Eckhouse here.

It felt like Mateer kind of came in as QB1. I feel like afterwards, everything you're reading and just kind of what you saw, it just felt like he had a pretty good command of that offense. Again, I was just seeing highlight, so it's really hard to know too much about that. Probably the slight edge to him, but I thought at Calus had some really good plays, some really nice throws in there as well. And he had a scramble for like 30 yards. So I think that's something that in that offense, they're probably going to have.

have to have that piece and he showed that he really has that. So it'll be interesting to see. I don't know if we got a ton of answers. From the spring game, I do feel like all the reports kind of point to Meredith as kind of that top inside guy, which is what we want in this offense. But I think Chris Hudson is also right there and could be a big piece of this offense as well. So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

and then, you know, you're going to have Kyle Williams on the outside, but also Hernandez kind of had some good plays, and he had some good scrimmages in the past as well, just outside of the spring game. So it'll be really interesting to see and interested to hear what you guys, you guys think about where this offense is going to go. Yeah, I mean, this is a battle that I paid a lot of attention to, and I do like Zeviac Cal, so I'm a little slanted.

I think ultimately it's going to come down to. I think Mathier is the, guy that can make plays outside of the structure of the offense. I think he's a more dynamic runner. I think he's got a bigger arm than at house. But I do think at house is if they want to play within the structure of Ben Arbuckle's offense, then he is a better suited to do that overall. I love the ball that he throws. I think he's athletic enough to play within that system. But like, I don't know what they ultimately want. I mean, I think Mateer maybe has a higher ceiling for that offense than Eckhouse does. And so that's what they want to go off of. Then I think they go with

Mateer. You know, as much as I like Eckhaus, I think if we're sitting here today, I think you have to go with Mateer because he came in as the, as the QB1 starting out and he's still the QB1. But what happens in the next three or four months, I think it's, you know, it'd be very interesting to see all that play out. Yeah, I think Bette, I've also followed this one pretty closely. I would give probably 60, 40 advantage to Mateer. You know, they've just going off practice reports. They've kind of flip-flop back and forth of who had the better day. But it always seemed like Matier was kind of that guy to run with the ones first in practices.

So I would give him the slight edge personally. My take kind of, I think it's notable who wins this job to determine. I know what you're about to say. I know what you're about to say, and it's so true. Yeah, I think if Mateer wins this job, I heavily favor Meredith as the wide receiver one. And I think of Eckhouse, then it's probably Hudson. And it, you know, you look at the stats in the spring game and that's obvious, like, that would be the obvious choice. But that's kind of how it's been in practices too.

Like when Eckhouse has been playing, like Hudson has been the better of the two receivers in the slot. So that's just kind of my takeaway that I would, you know, I would pay attention to who. wins this job and I would line it up kind of to who wins that slot receiver job because as we all know and this could totally blow up because I personally watch this game and I don't know even playing a Mount West schedule I don't know that Washington State's going to be very good they've been decimated by the transfer portal and lack of NIL budget um but obviously if you pick the right guys here at slot receiver and quarterback these are you know potential top 10 I hate this I hate this John Matier is, he's my highest projected quarterback just because he can run and how often Washington State throws the football under Ben Arbuckle.

I will not have John Matier as my obviously QB1, but that's just the upside. It shows you the upside of if we get a consensus QB1 here in this system. Yeah. Yeah. It's obvious the import of this air raid system. What it's done over the years. you have to respect it, especially moving down a level, being in the mountain west. Like, all right, well, let's see what we can do here.

That's obviously pretty appealing, given the roster and relative recruiting strength. So, yeah, I think you guys covered everything else pretty succinctly. Yeah. Yep, I totally agree. Hey, next up, we are going to have USC. Before that, we're going to take a quick break. And then we can come up and wrap up the rest of these spring games. All right.

Take it away, Froton. on. USC, a game that I happen to be fortunate enough to attend in person. And if you guys saw that on the X machine, but was right there on the field. Thank you, NBC Sports. And, you know, got to see these guys live and direct. And if there was anything, I could say about the offense. Miller Moss did not look quite as good as he did against Louisville in the bowl game in his first start.

when he threw six touchdown passes. Another game that I was on the field in attendance for, that was the Holiday Bowl in San Diego. So I have seen both of Miller Moss's starts, and let me say they were two diametrically opposed results. It looks really good again. A skeleton crew of Louisville had a lot of guys out, but against kind of new look USC defense,

hiring the ex-coordinator of UCLA. who put together such an effective couple of defense to the past two years and bringing in a lot of transfers. The first half, all quarterbacks, both Moss and Mayaba, through three interceptions, and they proceeded to throw another two in the second half. So in terms of, you know, what they were doing, when Moss threw the interceptions, he was short on a couple of, you know, one was an out and up that he just, he faked the out and he just never got it up. and just literally floated it right in the arms of the defensive back who just cut the route off. He wasn't, you know, running down the field and just happened to kind of edge his way in.

No, no, no, he was running the receiver, stopped, pivoted, let the ball sail onto his chest, and then ran it back for a touchdown on one play. So, you know, definitely I was concerned by what I saw from Miller Moss there in his performance. I don't think it's possible to not be concerned. did settle down in the second half, which did sort of, you know, rescue the performance in a way, I suppose you could say, but did not do much to really distinguish himself, despite the fact that he's and has been waiting for this opportunity for a long time. Seems to be a system quarterback doesn't have the big arm.

That being said, move on to the running backs. Jacavius Marx, Woody Marks, got a few carries. Like he was out there and, you know, managed to make his presence felt and do a little bit, you know, four carries, 29 yards. Look good. Looked the part. Kept his work limited, no problem. It was more so Amari and Peterson got a lot of work, to be honest, with, you know, kind of surprising to see Quentin Joyner only get one carry. You know, he had overshadowed. I really liked what I saw from him in the spring game last year, and he had out touched Peterson, I think, during season.

So that was kind of a surprise with Brian Jackson kind of doing the second team, the Omen's work, 10 carries, 23 yards. Scored a touchdown really didn't look too explosive. It was also tough for running backs. You don't know if that's going to be, you know, this carry is going to be three yards or if he breaks through it because they weren't doing full tackle. They were doing route. So do think that it will be interesting.

And I didn't really see a difference maker between Peter Sond. and joiner for that RB2 role, which is really what we're looking at in there. Marks is secured as the one. Wide receiver group is really what we're here for. And asking people around the program, because unfortunately, you know, that's up in LA. I'm in San Diego. I can't be up there and watch all those practices.

But I made sure to, you know, ask around and talk to people and get a feel for specifically the wide receiver room. And first name on everyone's mouth is obviously saying. It's almost like a given. It's like, all right, you know, so which wide receivers are standing out? And they're like, well, you know, Zachariah, it's, it's sort of like that given. It's like he's electric. And he will have that.

They'll move him around the formation everywhere. I mean, you can call him the wide receiver one, but he's going to be slot outside, you know, flex, jet. They're going to get pretty creative with him. And they did in the spring game. He wasn't doing much downfield. Everything he did was within, was manufactured or within, you. you know, like 10 years of the line of scrimmage. So, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, let's, let's check the Zachariah branch box,

but then moving on to the outside. And, you know, a real honeyhole in history is a USC X, Y receiver. I know that's not the case for Lincoln Riley, but, you know, we've seen Drake Lund, Brendan Rice was still pretty effective last year. If you had a guy who emerged a little more, you know, you could do a little more in terms of the numbers. Tage Washington was a why, but this is going to be production that's going to be had by one, somebody on that outside. And I would have to say the early favorite is Jacoby Lane, which certainly wasn't the case in terms of the recruiting, the way that all went down. Mackay Lemon and Deuce Robinson were more hell-rolded recruits.

But Jacoby Lane just has that look. He just, he kind of looks like Pittman, where he's got that long, classic X frame, incredible. ball tracking skills and agility. You saw in the game itself, he made a twisting catch to his across the middle that he took and broke up the field. He also made an incredible catch in the back of the end zone that was one of the best catches of the day. They were they were both the two best catch of the day. He caught the ball, comes down, is rolling with it on the ground, has it secured, and the devac raked it out of his hands. It was an amazing catch that doesn't go down in the statbook it is an amazing catch and a true power X move, but he did it. He caught that pass.

And I was kind of happy about who I can get Jacoby Lane, which I did in our last draft because of it. So now the cat's out of the bag. Sorry, guys. I like him the most. Also, but, you know, just looking at him as a whole, Deuce Robinson had his moments. He caught four passes. McCoy Lemon had a touchdown pass. Letting. You know, all four of these guys, it's pretty close in terms of who will end how they're going to interchange and who plays when where um i think you see lemon who's you know a little bit shorter in size you know you're not going to see lane or robinson really be able to flex into the the slot like lemon can to spell branch so i do think that you'll see a lot of lane is going to be the the number of the x on the outside i think primarily

and then you'll see kind of a, you know, a switching of the guy between Lemon and Deuce. If I had to pick one between Lemon or Duce Robinson, Duce Robinson is extremely long. Like you notice them. Oh my gosh. And Jacobi is too. But, you know, Lemon kind of reminds me a little more branch.

I think he'll get a little more time. So I think you'll see him because of versatility, get a few more snaps than Duce Robinson. So that's what I do with you. Have you been one of those that have been drafting branch inside the top eight to ten rounds? Because I have an issue with that. I know you do. I took him in the 10th two drafts ago.

I didn't get him this draft. I switched over to Jacori after being at the game. So I took Jacori in like the 24th, I want to say. Jacoby, excuse me, not Jacoby, Jacoby. So that's kind of giving you my preference. I think Lemon and Deuce might have gone undrafted. Maybe one of them went drafted, but they might have done on. dues for sure, I think, yeah.

Yeah, you want to drop. I pick a, I pick a Lemon a lot in late drafts because I'm just like, you know, why not take a shot on a USC wide receiver in rounds 25 through 30? Here's my issue, particularly with Branch, but I'm starting to even question Mackay Lemon and Lane, too, just a little bit. You know, the target share is the obvious reason, right? And there hasn't been a Lincoln Riley receiver, get more than 16% target share in the last four years. They've really spread it around. My, my, my, my issue is that you bring in Jayfair from

Auburn, you bring in Kyle Ford from back to USC from UCLA. I know USC tends to rotate six, seven, eight guys, but that also lends to the fact that they don't have a guy in my opinion, right? You can talk about the five star profile of Zachariah Branch, uh, but he also caught one pass in the bowl game. So I don't know. He also didn't pop in in the spring game either. He got some short yardage manufacturer touches, but it wasn't like he was out there ripping it off. He had four catches for 40 yards. You had a 23 yarder that he caught and ripped and then it was just three other short. I just not to not to pile on branch, but the guy wasn't even as he wasn't even the statistically the best receiver on his high school team. This is a guy that's never led his team in

receiving yards even in high school. And so you're banking on five-star status for selecting them in the top 10 rounds. I just, I don't think you go get J. Fair and Kyle Ford. I'm not saying these guys are difference makers in the, in the, none of the least, but like you are also going after Keandre Lambert Smith. You're like, you're not going after or signing all these guys if you are solidified, in my opinion, with your top, you know, top start. It's a young, it's a young group.

All of them are sophomores. So it's possible he's looking at this and saying, all right, well, where's the experience in this? There's nobody, nobody. So that's probably what they look at. Jaden Richardson is a senior. He got like some nominal targets. It's just a crew of second year players. So that makes a lot of sense.

I will say the freshman who stuck out, Xavier Jordan. Yeah. Yeah, I read some stuff on him too. They were really legit. I'll be targeting him in freshman drafts. liked what i saw from him so definitely uh check the boxes for what i saw from that's good all right we uh we're gonna try to get through these last four spring games very quickly here uh but we have up next i believe it's me doing louisville and what i'll say about louisville uh watched that game

was very good uh to get some eyes on tyler shuck and tyler shuck is when he's healthy he's pretty good. You can throw a ball. And the question is whether you can stay healthy. But him and Chris Bell had a good connection. Corey Brooks didn't play in this game. Colin Lacey was limited because he was hurt. So big takeaway. I think Tyler Shuck is worth where he's going rounds 15 to 20. If he can stay healthy. Other big takeaway from me, this is going to be a running back by committee. The two guys that I think most people are going after Maurice Turner and Don Cheney and Keywon Brown and Isaac Brown. who's a true freshman, good dynasty stash there. We're the best running backs on the field, in my opinion.

So I'd stay away from running backs. I don't think we're going to have a repeat of last year at all. And Tyler Shuckman, that dude can stay healthy. I think he can have a pretty decent year in that offense. He looks Taylor made for the Louisville Jeff Brum offense. Any thoughts? I was going to mention Chris Bell. Just, you know, he had the big spring game as we.

all saw, but I was kind of just reading up a little bit further on that. And I really liked what Shuck and Brah said about him, just commenting about his strong work ethic. And I thought, and it realized this too, like he, I mean, he was a distant second in targets with 42 last year, but he wasn't like fully healthy until like right up until the start of the season. So he didn't have a full off season last year to to kind of establish himself. So now he's getting that. And maybe we're seeing the, you know, why he's getting so much hype right now. So that was the kind of big takeaway from the game. It wasn't like he was lacking in hype last off season either, because we heard about him in

camp. We heard about him in spring last year, at least in camp, I want to say. We were hearing a lot of report about how Bell was a pretty dominant outside wide receiver. And that was something that they didn't have, where Jamari Thrash was more of that, you know, 6 foot 180. He didn't have that dominant physical profile. same way, could be is come up in time. And as discussed with Shuck, ultimate honeyhole,

the Jeff Brom, the Brom brothers traveling circus passing show, being their quarterback. Only the only Jack Plummer has managed to turn that into a milk toast college fantasy position. I'm not saying Tyler Shuck can't. He's just coming off of Texas Tech. He managed to turn that into a milk toast fantasy position. So I think that Tyler Shuck can't. He's just coming off of Texas Tech. He managed to turn that into a milk toast fantasy position. So I think that Tyler Shuck is certainly capable of doing a little two-for-one special here and making it a painful college fantasy experience owning the Brom Brothers quarterback. But, you know, history says others. So until then, go for it.

Just know before you draft Tyler Shuck that two years ago, I tried to pay him twice his going rate to do a cameo and pick the Big 12th. division for the 50-teamer draft that we do, College Fantasy League. He was going to pick the the 10-person draft, and he agreed to it. And then two days later came back and asked for $1,500 to pull a draft order. So I politely said no, Mr. Shuck. Was it just 50 bucks to start? No, it was $30 was a cameo. Going right. Then I said, I'm going to double your going rate, Mr. Tyler Shuck. I'm going to give you $60.

All you have to do is film a 45 second video. I've just picked names out of a hat. Pick names out of a hat for a fun little league, and you're good. I'll give you $60. He came back with $1,500. I was like, bro, you don't know how this works, do you? Like, I don't care. I'll pick, I'll pull the thing.

I literally pulled it. It was like, yeah, I'll pull it for zero. I'll be more entertaining than you. All right. That's amazing. All right. I wonder if he's getting $1,500 from Louisville, NIL. What's your if he is.

I hope he's getting something, man. There we go. For his last year in college. But I will let you know, I have one C2C share that I had as a legacy share from forever ago. And other than that, I have not taken one solitary Tyler Schult. There we go. Glad the opinion has been. Personal.

It's been dated. Stamped. Love it. Mike, why don't you take us on to Notre Dame? Give us a quick brief rundown of Notre Dame. And then we can move this to do this pretty quickly. Yeah, I didn't have a ton of takeaways from this game, just mainly for the fact that a lot of the perceived starters on offense didn't really play. Obviously, Riley Leonard was unavailable because of the foot injury that he suffered last year.

We didn't see Judarian Price in the back field. He didn't play. Bo Collins wasn't available. I don't know if he's going to be a starter or not, but I don't believe he was there in the spring, potentially. I don't know for certain, but I know he didn't play in the spring game. Tideon Mitchell Evans, who I know Eric loves, also unavailable in this game. So we didn't get to see a lot of the perceived starters. So you're really getting a look at the backups and maybe future starters down the road from a dynasty perspective.

I thought the quarterbacks were solid. You know, nothing spectacular. Steve Angeli looked good, 17 to 25 completions for 228 yards and two scores. He obviously led Notre Dame to that blowout bowl win against Oregon State last year. uh, CJ Carr, I think was the story amongst most, uh,

Notre Dame fans looks the part. Even though he chose the wrong school, should have gone to Michigan. Um, but yeah, he looks like the future at the position for Notre Dame after the spring game. Uh, running back,

uh, I thought Jeremiah love on that 17 yard touchdown run, uh, looked really explosive. Uh, also kind of similar to what we talked about with Jordan James added. Um, four or five catches in the receiving game too.

So that's obviously a plus for, for his kind of, fantasy outlook. We'll see what it looks like when Jedarian Price gets healthy and back into the fold. Personally, I think it's going to be a split between the two this year, you know, and then work in some of the younger guys behind them. So I'm not really investing too, too much in the backfield right now, but you can obviously get them in the, you know, close to the 20th round range. So you're not having to spend up for those two receivers. Chris Mitchell, the Florida International Transfer, did his thing. obviously. We know him as a deep threat.

Caught a 62-yard touchdown pass. Freshman Micah Gilbert really stood out to me with two touchdowns. Context always matters, though. Both of those touchdowns by Mitchell and Gilbert were against walk-on cornerbacks. So context always matters in the spring games. So my question to the group is, do you guys see any, like, nobody's getting drafted consistently from Notre Dame inside, you know, the first 10 rounds. I haven't really, like the only guy would consider is Riley Leonard.

Is there anybody else that you see here that could be drafted within the first 10 to 12 rounds in fantasy drafts? Nah, not for me. There's nobody I'm taking anywhere in that range. I think, you know, we'll have to see what ultimately happens throughout. I mean, maybe Riley Leonard during fall camp gets some kind of hype. But yeah, for me, I think all those guys are sliding. That was kind of, I mean, that's, yeah, that's kind of my takeaway, too, is like the depth on

offense, I think, is drastically improved. You know, the wide receiver core was absolutely terrible last season. You know, Jane Grethouse, I think was the MVP, according to some beat writers. So, you know, Addin Mitchell, potentially Bo Collins, maybe Michael Gilbert makes an impact. You know, the depth at running back to two with love and price. but I don't know that I see an actual difference made on this offense outside of potentially Riley. I have some Jeremiah Love shares. I think in the second and last basketball league, I think I grabbed him in like the 20th round or so.

I had to get what I felt to be an appropriate value to select him. But I don't think it's a bad thing if you're looking at a baseball format or even a regular larger dynasty league to have price and love. Which one of them comes out on the other side. I know it's potentially, you know, someone else could take it. I think those will be the two. I don't like hearing love splitting out. I mean, I like it, but I don't at the same time. I want a running back who's getting 20 carries, ideally.

But I do like Great House. Not within the first 12 rounds, though. So, I mean, I feel like you have, there's some intrigue here that I don't feel like there was last year with Notre Dame. We do forget that traditionally there's been. one wide receiver for the Irish and it's been somebody who's been at least wide receiver three worthy. You know, even even Kevin Austin was still worth, you know, of having on a roster, even if he wasn't that great. But, you know, we've had some other more effective guys in recent years like the Will Fullers and what have you. So I'm not ready to write off Great House.

I think at the end of drafts, it feels like I, there's so many wide receivers you could look at in round 27, 28, 29, 30 of these drafts that are viable options. I think you could toss Gradyu, and Mitchell Evans is a star. He's not being treated like it. I'm getting him, I think got him in the 18th round last draft. That's an absolute atrocity. Y'all ought to be ashamed of yourselves for letting me do that. Okay?

It literally was. It was the 18th round. I got Mason Taylor, 11th. Mitchell Evans, 18th. our boy, Fergie, in the 21st. And those are three dependable tight ends that I know are going to perform. So I love, I think he's a top 10 tight end. I think he will produce bye-bye Holden stays.

He's not even there anymore because he knows what's coming with Mitchell Evans. You know, he's going to be out of a Michael Mayer type season. So you heard it here first. That's what's about to happen. I will say if Steve Angeli is the guy, then Eli Rairdon is going to get a million targets. because that is the only person that Angelo went after in the spring game. It was laughing. You know, it was pretty funny.

Peanut butter and jelly is not taking over that role, okay? And I'm remiss for saying, got to watch CJ Carr for three days at the Elite 11 final in Redondo Beach. Love him, my QV6 from this class. And he is going to throw Mr. Peter Butter and Jelly. in a locker. It's over. Time to transfer, Mr. Angelly. C.J. Carr is taking that job, so I'm not remotely worried about that situation.

Zach, you got final thoughts here before. Yeah, just real quick. I haven't really touched any Notre Dame player yet this year, but something that's interesting to me about Riley Leonard, he's out of the top QBs. He's one that's starting to drop. So he was going

roughly around 9, 10, and now he's dropped to round 13. So not a huge drop, but he is going, he was about QB 22 and now he's QB 31. So the last few drafts, he's a guy that's kind of started to drop, which is interesting to me.

If he drops much farther down, I think he starts to become a really good value. Yeah, people forget about Ian Book and how well he was able to produce from a fantasy perspective. He wasn't a top 12, but I mean, Ian Book was a solid starter during his last couple.

So, you know, there's a path and Riley, I know, to run a little bit. Yeah, Den Brock has done a lot lot with a little in his past as a play caller. So I like that a lot. Last but not least, RAP Tobias Maryweather. We'll mess. We'll mess.

Oh, we'll mess. Oh, my. The never new Tobias, obviously a arrest. Oh, yes. I like the call out. Hey, we, uh, I think, I think that's a good way into the show. RIP Maryweather. He's, yeah, a bus for me and a guy that I really wanted to be.

good over there at Notre Dame and never came to fruition. But we did a good. I could give a quick one more on San Diego State since it doesn't matter who the players are. I will say this. Being here in San Diego, have some friends of the program, have some people around the program who have, you know, are involved in it and did some digging around. There is an exit from the portal. 25 players from the San Diego State.

They were in there in the beginning of spring. have hit the portal. Essentially, Sean Lewis, new head coach, came in with all those freshman Hoke type recruits and whatever have you and laid it all out for them, the ones who weren't going to make it. And they're just like, look, you are holdovers from the Hoke class. It's not going to work out for you here. You know, we wish you the best of luck, but, you know, your scholarship is no longer here. Pulled 25, 25 guys go in the portal. And he will be, it was just the first salvo was Marquez Coup. Okay, Marcus Cooper just went transferred over there.

You're going to see an exodus to San Diego State. Apparently there's some booster money that's come in that had been held out during the Hoke and Long era because what's the point? Now with Lewis there, like they're in. He laid it down for him and said, you want wins. I'm going to get you wins. You got to give me players. You're going to start seeing some players heading over to San Diego State. They got a little bit of NIL money.

they're going the portal route. It's going to be a glorified, you know, a light version of Colorado, but 25 scholarships, 25 guys have gone in from San Diego State. You're going to see a whole bunch come in. And call it a hunch. I have no idea about this. But didn't college flea just hit the portal, you know, recently for UCLA? Yeah, but he wants to go out.

He's been said. He wants to go back east. So why would Sean Lewis go and hit up college leave? because I know for a fact that quarterback room is a catastrophe. AJ Duffy is not working out. I see him still getting drafted in our leagues. Every time he does, I smile. He's not going to be the guy.

And, you know, basically it's kind of a free-for-all. From what I understand, they are looking to bring somebody in. So I don't think the current quarterback is on that roster. And I think you can definitely see a wide receiver to come out. Nobody's really separated themselves in the wide receiver room. Harrison looks good, who transferred over from Colorado. He'll eat definitely in that tight end roll. But still very much up in the air as far as wide receivers, I think see somebody come

in and definitely a quarterback too. Yeah. Well, I love those nuggets. We got through seven of eight spring games. Not bad for us. We only went to, you know, a little bit over on time. Next week, man, we're going to want to, you're not going to want to miss next week because we are going to talk about both a little bit of the transfer portal and we're going to talk

about best ball and do a kind of little bit of an update on these CFF bus balls that we've been participating in and mentioning and talk about, man, ADP movement. The last time we talked about this was end of March, early April. So we want to come back and talk to you guys about who's moving up and down and what we like and where Dionne Berks is going to say with Dionne Burks, round six, 80P. Nobody likes Nick Anderson. Team Nick Anderson. If you want it out there, Nick Anderson is going to have more fantasy points than Dionne Burks.

Hey, hey, I've been actually taking a Nick Anderson discount. So I'm with you on that. Hell, yeah, you should take the Nick Anderson discount. He was a smoking deal this last draft. Actually, I've been the one who's been taking them, and I purposely didn't take him this draft. Went pick four, round 10 to Michael Bainbridge. And I got Jackson Arnold paired with him, too.

Dude, that's been my stack. It's been my stack, brother. Now you know where you're taking my stacks? I was trolling you that entire draft. No, that. Eugene Wilson, Jackson Arnold. I know. I play the man.

Well, look. And Gerwan Newton. I drafted Gerwan Newton, too. I've never had a share of Geron Newton. Dude, he went pretty late, though, Cherwan Newton. He didn't. And you're in fairness. I sort of, I feel like I have so much Gerwan Newton exposure.

It's like, hey, for relax, buddy. I'll go you. 24th round, Jorwan Newton. Just dependable, like we're talking about, these best ball leagues. You know he's going to be out there. I mean, he's got three years of established track record. in Toledo. You got Tucker Gleason, who's going to be throwing more than Dequan Finn did. I was going to say that too. We're going to go along now. But yeah, they're going to throw a lot.

It's not like they're going to 200 carries with Jackaz Stewart. We just had a perfect ending here. We had wide receivers, Jarquiz Stewart. You know I got a lot of Jarquez Stewart. That is my guy, right? Can we agree? My guy. Stewart. Your guy. He can be your guy. Unfortunately, we had a great way. We started the show at Jackson and Arnold. We were going to end it with Jackson and Arnold. And then y'all got to talk about Gerwan Newton and Tucker Gleason, who, by the way, went to Plant High School, where I got some connections to. But since we're ending the show with me, then we're going to end with Tucker Gleason at the end, plant high school. And with Shane, when am I going to get in one of the cards, best balls?

I'll get into one now that the NFL draft is over. And thanks to Dan Brown, who did some yeoman's work there in the chat out here, this show. like great work giving us quotes and everything and thanks kevin coleman for something about love it hey if you guys like this show please like comment subscribe join us every monday night at 9 p m eastern time love for you guys to be here man the more interactive that we can have this show the better it's going to be until the next time do small things with great love thanks for tuning in to this edition of the fantasy points podcast remember to subscribe rate and review on your favorite platform Join the roster at FantasyPoint.com.