Fantasy Football Daily - Complete Dynasty Rookie Mock Draft w/ Scott Barrett, Brett Whitefield, Ryan Heath, Joe Dolan, and Thomas Tipple
Episode Date: March 26, 2025Fantasy Points continues the march to the 2025 NFL Draft with Brett Whitefield and Theo Gremminger bringing in the Fantasy Points team with Scott Barrett, Joe Dolan, Ryan Heath, and Thomas Tipple for ...a full three-round dynasty superflex tight end premium mock draft. mock draft. Where to find us: http://twitter.com/BGWhitefield http://twitter.com/TheOGFantasy http://twitter.com/ScottbarrettDFB http://twitter.com/FG_Dolan http://twitter.com/RyanJ_Heath http://twitter.com/ElNostraThomas Join The Discord Here - https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/discord#/ Find Our Podcasts Here - https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/podcasts#/ Subscribe to FantasyPoints for FREE - https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/ FantasyPoints Website - https://www.fantasypoints.com NEW! Data Suite - https://data.fantasypoints.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FantasyPts Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@fantasypts #fantasypoints #nfl #fantasyfootball #dynastyfantasyfootball #FantasyFootballAdvice #dynastypoints #dynasty Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We are officially 31 days out from the NFL draft.
Welcome to Fantasy Football Daily.
Fantasy Points rookie mock draft spectacular.
I'm Theo Greminger.
Brett Whitefield and I today have been dropping multiple rookie mock drafts,
multiple rookie ranking shows.
We talked about dream landing spots.
We talked about a ton of things.
Today we said we got to go to the mattresses.
From Fantasy Points today, we're joined by Scott Barrett.
We're joined by Joe Dolan.
We're joined by Ryan Heath.
and we're joined by Thomas Tipple.
We're going to drop a three-round dynasty rookie mock draft.
We're going to share our thoughts on a number of these exciting rookies in this 2025 class.
We're going to say why we're selecting these players.
Maybe we're going to talk about some of our fades.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
The order of the draft is Joe Dolan at the one.
I'm picking at the two spot, Scott Barrett at the three,
Ryan Heath at the four, Thomas at the draft.
the five spot and Brett is picking sixth.
And we are going to be drafting the best possible pick every single time.
So for example, Joe is going to be drafting at one and his pick at seven has one has no
influence on who he picks at seven.
We're going to give you the best possible rookie selection every single round.
Our scoring is a superflex PPR with a 1.5 point tight end premium format.
How excited are you for this one today, Brett?
Oh, I'm pretty pumped.
I love doing these even though I'm kind of, you know,
we're out of my, I guess my professional expertise here and into your guys' territory.
So let's go.
And Brett, your prospect guide just dropped at fantasy points.com.
How do people access that?
Yeah, fantasypoints.com.
All you need is a login.
You don't even need a paid subscription, although we do appreciate those.
But, you know, just create a login, go in there.
And you can get it under the downloads and
guides tab. Yeah, it's absolute fire. Highly recommended. If you want to succeed in your dynasty
league, you want to get a better understanding of this rookie class in general. No better person
for you to follow than Brett Whitefield. And you can get that for free at fantasy points.
We're also joined today by Scott Barrett. Scott, is this your first rookie mock draft?
I believe so, yeah. Oh my gosh. We get the first one. This is going to be a lot of fun with Scott.
Scott and I are going to drop a school of Scott later this week.
Make sure you're sure you're subscribed to that pod as well.
Joe, is this your first rookie mock draft of the year?
It sure is.
And I appreciate you guys for letting me in on the easy ramp by giving me the 1-1.
So I appreciate that.
Let me ease into it.
But we're going to get into the weeds here today, boys.
I'm looking forward to it.
Look, I've been editing Brett's prospect guide over the last week plus.
He's pumped a ton of these profiles out.
So now I'm, now I'm like an expert on these guys, even though a month ago, I couldn't tell you where some of them went to school.
That's not true.
But some of them certainly were unbeknownst to me before the Senior Bowl.
So I'm excited to get going and then put my knowledge to the test or lack of care of.
Joe, I give you a shout out the other day.
Your Cam Scataboo comp is now our Camp Scataboo comp.
I stole it.
I'm using it.
So now we're sympathetico there.
Who is it?
It's slow Kareem Hunt.
that is because so we'll talk about scataboo when we get there but like i am not a i'm like i'm not a
comp guy i don't come up with a comp for everybody but i have two that i've come up with for the running
back class and i like both of them but slow cream hunt for scadaboo is my favorite so far and ryan
and tom you guys are crushing it on dynasty points let everybody know what you have coming up
we're 31 days out from the nfl draft what does dynasty points have lined up these next few weeks
tom started us out well we have
I'm working and I'm going to guilt him into this podcast now because he can't run away from me.
Brett to come back and update his rookie tiers here at some point.
We have Ryan, Jacob and Lucas.
We're going to be running down our rookie tiers at each position on the way.
Also helping people educate themselves on the best moves to make trading away draft picks for players and vice versa.
Can't wait.
And Ryan, you're going to be joining me again later this week on Fantasy Football Daily.
We're going to dive into the year two players.
Any big takeaways from your early research with that class?
Not yet.
We're going to save it all for the podcast.
But yeah, very excited to kind of dive into, especially these sophomore wide receivers,
which I think is just kind of every year,
one of the most important things to get right in fantasy football.
So, yeah, really looking forward to chopping it up with you there, Theo.
Yeah, me as well.
Ryan always brings the heat every time he's on school of Scott,
every time he's here on fantasy football daily.
And of course, dynasty points.
make sure you're subscribed to that one as well.
Let's get this started.
Joe Dolan, your OTC here at the 101.
Any hesitation here, or is it locked and loaded?
I went in to type in my pick and Brett has already done it for me.
I'm not going to do anything.
I'm not going to make any sort of hot take.
I'm taking Ashton Janty here.
The thing about this is we're doing this pre-N-FL draft, right?
So we don't know where these players are going,
but I feel like we have a decent idea of Ashton Janty's floor.
Brett mocked him at six to the Raiders.
We have a mock draft coming out this week from the Fantasy Points data team that has him mocked at number six to the Raiders.
Like Daniel Jeremiah has him mocked at number six to the Raiders.
Mel Kiper has him number six to the Raiders.
That's the most likely landing spot right now.
But I think his floor, his bare minimum floor is 10 to the Bears.
So we have a top 10 pick here.
The Raiders situation has improved considerably.
I do still have some questions about their offensive line.
They were our fourth worst offensive line by run blocking grade at fantasy points data.
But it feels like the parts are there.
Colton Miller, Dylan Parham, Jackson Powers Johnson.
They have a young offensive line.
Colton Miller is the elder statesman there at left tackle.
I'm going to presume that Ashton Janty is an Oakland, excuse me, a Las Vegas raider.
I think the upgrades with Gino Smith and Chip Kelly are going to be fantastic for them.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ashton Janty runs for 14, 1,500 yards as a rookie.
I am locking him in at the 1-1,
and I think that is the single most obvious pick you can make in quite some time in Dynasty fantasy football.
Yeah, it's definitely the chalk, and it's a chalk for a reason.
Ashton Genty is a generational prospect.
He's awesome.
For a lot of people, Brett, this is the best running back prospect since Sequin Barclay.
Is that where you're at with your historical rankings?
No.
No, Pijon was a significantly better prospect than Genti, but that's okay.
Wrong.
Very good prospect.
So if you think Brett is right on that or if you're if you or if you think he's wrong,
you can now comment specifically for our Spotify audience.
Go ahead and get in our comments and you can leave a comment on any of these picks.
You can also, of course, leave a pick, leave a comment on Fantasy Points YouTube.
Make sure you subscribe to that.
Scott, go ahead and say what you're going to say.
You think Brett's wrong on that.
Where does Genti kind of line up for you historically?
Yeah, I think he's, you know, far and away the best.
asset in this class. I think he's, I mean, I think it's close, but between him and Bijan,
but I think he's a better prospect than Bijon. I think he's potentially a better prospect than
Saquan Barkley. I think he's just an absolute freak. And, uh, and I love him. Yeah, he's, he's
terrific. And you gave me the difficult spot here, Brett, at the 102 super flex. Uh, this is one where
a lot of years I, I would go quarterback. Uh, certainly there's a,
a wide receiver that comes to mine here.
But I'm going to stay at the running back spot.
I'm going to go with Omari and Hampton,
who is a very, very worthy
RB2 in this class for me behind Ashton Genti.
We did our NFL comps the other day.
I brought up the name David Johnson
when I looked at at Omarian Hampton for a guy
that's got the size, the athleticism,
the ability to catch the ball.
And what's great about Omarin Hampton
is I think like Genti,
he's going to be a first round pick in the
NFL draft. Start talking about landing spots, potential Dallas landing spot, a potential Denver
landing spot, potentially Washington at pick number 29. All of these picks would get us super,
super excited inside the fantasy football community. So despite the fact that I think we'll have a
quarterback picked at the 101 this year, I'm still going to go with Omari in Hampton at the 102
locking in. Anybody have any comments on Hampton here? I have an interesting. So this is the other
comp I have. I said.
I've made two comps so far, and this is the other one I have.
I think Denver is an interesting landing spot, Theo,
because let's go to somebody who ran for a thousand yards in New Orleans
in Sean Payton's first year as the Saints head coach.
Omerian Hampton looks like Deuce McAllister to me.
Big, powerful, faster than you think, you know,
he tested out of this world at the combine,
just like, do go look at their measurables and compare the two.
I think Deuce McAllister is a good comp for Omerian Hampton.
and I love the spot.
And it feels pretty obvious he's going to be a first round pick in the NFL draft.
Yeah, I love that, you know, we bring up, we bring up Denver, too.
I think that would really bring up his potential as a receiver out of the backfield.
That's been a staff that really wants to use a running back like that.
If we somehow get him the Giovante Williams targets with that sort of explosiveness,
Brett, I love bringing up the stat.
We've only had four players in ACC history with 1,500 rushing yards and 15 rushing
scores in back-to-back seasons. Lamar Jackson, Dalvin Cook, Travis E.TN, not bad company.
Scott Barrett, your OTC here at the 103. Would you have taken Hampton at the 102 and go ahead and
put your pick in? Yeah, I don't know about Hampton. You know, I haven't finalized my running back
rankings yet. I actually started writing him up and I don't know. I kind of struggled to sell him as
like a round one worthy prospect and the clear 102. So I just kind of
put it to the side and I wrote up like 12 other guys and I plan on getting back to it in a day or two.
But I'm going to go with Ted McMillan, a player I know I do love.
I think there's a world where, you know, this is tight end premium, right?
Yes.
There's a world where I take Tyler Warren or a close to, close to Loveland.
But we at least have pro day measurables on McMillan makes me feel a little bit better.
It's just a player I love.
Brett and I did a film versus analytics on him.
We were super aligned as you got to remove Travis Hunter from the equation because we don't really know what's going on with him, but like removing him from the equation.
It's just like clear, far and away wide receiver one in the class.
No one comes close.
It's a pretty gross wide receiver class.
So maybe positional scarcity bumps him up even further, whereas like the running back class is so deep.
You can take a shotgun blast approach and not really miss.
And yeah, so if you want to hear why Brett and I love Ted McMillan someone.
much you can watch the film versus analytics episode, but 103 feel great about it.
Yeah, and you can also listen to Film versus Analytics on the School of Scott feed as well.
You guys are putting out tremendous videos there.
I highly recommend those.
We're going to take a quick break, and we come back.
Ryan Heath is OTC at the 104.
Welcome back to Fantasy Football Daily on the Fantasy Points channel.
I'm Theo Greminger.
We are three picks in here off the board at the 101.
Ashton Gentie at the 102, Omari and Hampton, and then Ted McMillan off the board at the 103.
Ryan, no quarterback has been selected yet.
Are you going to take one here?
Yeah, we're going to change that right here.
So I am going to take Cam Ward at 104.
In this spot, it's pretty clear to me that Ward is the pick.
I mean, we've got both of the running backs off the board that are pretty much locked into round one capital.
We have by far and away the best wide receiver prospect off the board that has like a relatively
spotless analytical profile. So we're kind of left with Cam Ward with a quarterback that is almost
assuredly going in the top three in the NFL draft, likely to whichever team trades up for him.
That's kind of enough for me in a Superflex format.
Quarterback is really the only position that has kind of the value ceiling to be drafted
in the first half of the first round of Superflex startups.
So the best time or the best place to get a quarterback in Superflex is often the startup.
The second best place is in the rookie draft.
It can be very hard to trade for these quarterbacks.
Cam Ward has enough of the mobility.
We'll definitely have enough of the NFL draft capital to where he's going to have kind of a
multi-year window of opportunity here.
Quarterbacks always one of the most stable picks you can make in the first round in Superflex.
And yeah, as I said, just one of the highest upside from a value perspective.
as well. And analytically, Ryan, you would say the insulation from being a 101 quarterback,
that matters a lot for you in Superflex? Of course it does. Yeah. And I mean, you've still got
early first round quarterbacks that we see get multiple chances in the league years later. Like,
this is the Baker Mayfields and Jared Goffs of the world. Remember, these guys flamed out in their
first spots, right? Just having that 101 status, it means something in the NFL in real NFL terms as well,
which yeah,
translates to it means something
for the insulation of their value in fantasy.
There we go.
Cam Ward officially off the board.
Thomas,
your OTC here at the 106.
Which way are you thinking?
Yeah, pretty easy for me.
It's Tyler Warren,
it being a tight end premium pick.
Tyler Warren goes,
he's currently going one spot after
Cam Ward in startups for this month.
He's also the 106, so it's pretty on par for his current rookie ADP and Dynasty as well.
It's a spot early, but I'm comfortable with that.
The upside, though, for a tight end in these tight end premium formats is almost unparalleled.
Sam Laporta was the tight end 12 at pick 1011 in 2023 and has held second round startup ADP now,
being the late round 212 to 211 picks currently,
as well as being a mid to early second round pick last year.
Your value gained and opportunity to sell if you want to,
if he produces at all,
is enough for me to just make the pick anyway.
As somebody that's not a,
I'm not going to sit here and tell you if a prospect is going to do well.
I'm not, what we can predict, though,
what I can predict is market.
it and there's just too much ceiling for him to be able to hit, to not take him at this pick.
And Brett, we've talked about this on some previous shows, but I think a lot of people sort of
one month out are playing catch up. Share some of your thoughts on Tyler Warren, the prospect,
without putting any thought into a landing spot. Yeah, I mean, Warren's a machine. He's a complete
freaking animal. Like hair on fire mentality. He's kind of like a cross between Pooka Naku and
George Kittle in the way that he plays and approaches the game.
He's yards after catch phenom.
He's, you know, you're going to scheme up explosive plays for him is basically what
it's going to look like.
Heavy, you know, play action, downfield targets, seam stretcher, deep crossing route
guy.
And then he's also so good with the ball on his hands, you know, at Penn State last year,
he, he had games where, you know, he had 10 carries.
I mean, he, like, as a wildcat quarterback.
And I think that's a real value add in fantasy football because with the, you know,
the advent of the tush push.
He's a guy who can slide right in and take a lot of those carries off of a team.
Say you have a team with like more of a pocket passer type quarterback that you don't want to risk with injury.
Tyler Warren immediately slides in as your dominant push push guy and he'll be highly effective.
I legitimately think you get four to five rushing touchdowns out of him per year if he lands on the right team.
Like a New Orleans for example.
So yeah, it's a good pick.
Yeah.
And Scott, this week we're going to review an FFPC.
draft that we selected with a B-bag Batoba on School of Scott.
Your thoughts on just Warren's potential impact in a tight-end premium type format like the
FFPC.
Oh, I absolutely love him.
I adore him.
I like Loveland a lot as well, but I would have Warren as the one just, it was the, I broke
it down.
Like, Harold Fanon had the best FBS season in college football history, which is true.
But then Warren had the best power.
conference, you know, tougher competition, tight end season, analytically in college football history.
Super productive as a runner. You saw that with Brock Bowers. It's one of those things that's weirdly
predictive, but just, you know, the counting metrics off the charts, the efficiency was there.
It looks like a true why. So I think he could be a sort of cheat code like a George Kittle or
Rob Grankowski. You know, that shouldn't be the expectation. But he's going to get those mismatches.
you could flex him out. He can do all that as well. And just love the player.
I think that's an outstanding pick. And, you know, Loveland, yeah, as insane as the Warren stats were,
Loveland was right there by every measure, might even be a little bit better as a receiver.
More routes run while Warren's pass blocking a little bit more. So I've been saying to Brett is like,
I think Warren is my wide receiver two. Loveland is my wide receiver three in this class. And then add in the
tight end premium bonus. I don't know. It's tight between them and Tet.
Yeah, it's almost a, I hate to use the word transformative year because we had Brock Bowers last
year, but there are some really, really strong tight ends. And I think the two guys you just
mentioned, Scott, are both going to be top 15 picks in the NFL draft. And Brett and I, we talked
about sort of the floor that those guys have. If they both fall out of the top 15, they're going
to get wrapped up really quickly. I think both before like pick 22. And Brett, we talked about teams
potentially maneuvering around to get them.
So definitely, definitely a great pick by Thomas.
And I wonder post-N-FL draft Thomas, if 106 for Warren might kind of be out of the,
out of the cards if he lands perfectly inside that top 10.
It's going to be tough just simply because of the quarterbacks, but with everyone being
so down on this quarterback class, these elite potential type players, especially in terms of
market value, for example, like Scheder Sanders right now is a seventh round startup pick.
So his price has just dropped right down.
It's going to be hard to get these tight ends at the 106 and the 107, the 108.
It's going to be very difficult.
Bowers last year, for example, was right around like a 107, 106 decision was say like a Romadunze.
We don't have that player now to push Bowers back.
There's no decision to make.
You're just clicking that tight end.
If you look at the tight end landscape for you.
and Dynasty, it's like Bowers, McBride Laporta, and then like, what, Tucker
craft it like four and joke? Like, it's rough on those streets right now. So you, yeah,
you're right. 106 is going to be tough to get them at.
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We're here at the 106.
Brett, you're OTC.
Brett's just filling in the sheet ahead of time.
He's like five picks ahead of everybody.
No wonder he got confused.
I thought we were supposed to do that so that we, you know, like we weren't fumbling on the
clock.
But you refuse to do it, Joe.
So I guess, you know, we have to make these picks under fire under a lot of pressure.
It's suspense.
Joe's providing the suspense.
Go for it, though, Brett.
Yeah.
So with Warren off the board that makes.
my choice easy. I don't have to pick between Warren and Loveland. So I'm going Colson Loveland here,
who I think is a, I call him the preeminent receiving prospect in this draft class.
And I think that's true. I think he's a better receiving prospect than Tyler Warren is.
From a route running standpoint, the things he can do at the catch point, body control,
things of that nature. Like, you can literally run an offense through him. He profiles similarly
to a Tray McBride or a Sam LaPorte type where he's going to go out and win with separation
and kind of be the focal point of an offense. I think,
Warren is a more explosive player and a guy who, you know, you can scheme some really fun stuff up for,
but ultimately Warren's game is a little more well-rounded where he's making a big impact in the run game
and it's a pass blocker where Loveland is legitimately a wide receiver playing tight end.
He's one of these joker-type players.
I think that we're getting so much conversation about right now.
So I love Colson Loveland though.
I think he, you know, in a tight-end premium format, this is the type of guy you want to be drafting for sure.
And I'm glad I didn't have to pick between him and Warren.
And Brett, do you think that there's NFL front offices that are going to like the fact that Colson Loveland is younger significantly than Tyler Warren and maybe bake that into how they rank those guys, maybe a little bit more room to run in the profile for Loveland?
Or do you think that sort of thing at the tight end position is not something that they're going to value that highly?
I think they will value it.
So when you look at his deficiencies as a player, it's like play strength and run blocking right now isn't great.
but you can really attribute that to age.
He has a lot of youth still where he hasn't put on that man strength and that muscle
that Tyler Warren has.
Warren is a freaking unit.
So I think Loveland, you know, being younger, teams probably view that as a developmental runway
to get him some more muscle mass and get him stronger at the point of attack in the run game.
Yeah, we were really excited to see how tall Colson Loveland was taller than Tyler Warren was
was a little bit surprising, but yeah, Loveland, a player, we're all very, very high on.
Joe, I try to jump the gun because I'm so excited about your pick.
Now you're actually OTC.
Who are you going to go?
Yeah, so here's the deal.
The two difference making tight ends are off the board, right?
The two running backs who I think are confirmed to be first round picks, they're off
the board.
So we're kind of flying blind here.
I think Ted McMillan from everything Scott and Brett said is completely up, head and shoulders
above the other receivers. And then now it becomes, all right, this is landing spot dependent
with these running backs and wide receivers who are left. So I feel like I can go in
and get somebody a little bit later in the draft if I'm sitting here at this pick.
We're flying in blind, clean slate. I think there's only one guy here who in a super flex
format makes a whole lot of sense because I know he's going to be drafted in the first round.
And that's Shadurr Sanders. So I'm going to take Shadurr Sanders with the seventh pick.
I don't love him from a fantasy profile the way that I do, I like Cam Ward a little bit more.
I think, I think he has better guaranteed draft capital than Jackson Dart, even though I think
Jackson Dart's going to go in the first round.
And Brett obviously will tell me the same.
So I'm going to take Shudor Sanders at 1-7.
I think it's the right pick because it does look like he's going to be a top five pick.
Yeah, and anything to add on Shiger Sanders, Brett, there's been sort of a
there was a fade of Chardin.
Now people seem to be back on to him.
This is a guy where I think he,
I agree with you.
I think he's going to be in the top five.
I actually think he'll be the number two overall pick.
Is that where you're at as well, Brett?
Yeah, I think you start to look at the QB landscape
and the actual NFL.
There's still really three teams, four teams with no answers
at quarterback, right?
We have Tennessee Titans, the Cleveland Browns,
the New York Giants and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
So now that we have that pretty clear,
it looks like there's a clear pathway for these three
quarterbacks to come off the board in the first round. So yeah, I think Shadour is a top five pick now.
I think that's pretty locked in based on what happened in free agency. So, you know,
if he lands with Cleveland, too, I think that's even even more potent for him. So yeah, good,
good pick. Okay, so I'm OTC here at the 108 and I'm going to go with another running back in
Trayvion Henderson. And I actually think that if we start trying to project NFL draft capital,
Henderson has the best chance of joining Omarian Hampton and Ashen Genty inside of round one.
And I think if he does fall out out of the round one, he's a high-end second round pick.
Henderson is going to benefit from the NFL chasing big playability at the running back spot.
Henderson also has the potential for us in fantasy to be a dynamic receiver and one that is featured predominantly by his team.
I bring up Washington at 29, Brett, as sort of a dream landing spot.
I think that that's a team that wants to improve in terms of getting yak.
They went and traded for Debo Samuel.
They also need to a talent upgrade at the running back spot to support Jaden Daniels.
Now that Laramie Tunsell was acquired by them,
I think that that's opened them up for a running back at Pick 29.
I think Henderson would be a tremendous fit there.
Henderson, for me, easy selection here at the 108.
I like him more than any other wide receiver because I think that the best wide receiver still on the board is the threat of playing a lot of cornerback as well.
So pass on Travis Hunter and Trayvion Henderson off the board.
Scott Barrett, back OTC here at the 109.
Yeah, I'm going to take Travis Hunter, which is maybe a bad pick.
I think just like the risk of him being predominantly a cornerback is so immense.
but and like part of this is you know i haven't finalized my running back rankings i don't want to
give a bad take or or give too much away um but i just love Travis hunter like as a player as a
prospect like i think he's deserving of the 101 pick i think he's just an absolute freak of nature
i think he's built different and when you've done the impossible last year he won the heisman
he won the bullitnikoff award he won the award for best defensive player he wasn't just the best
player in college football. He was the best and second best players in college football, best on both
sides of the ball. And when you do something like that, which will never be repeated again,
has never been done before, I don't think you could put any cap on a player's limit or ceiling.
I think he could be the NFL's show high Otani. I think he can be a successful two-way
player. But you have teams like the Browns talking about him being a full-time wide receiver
saying he's better there. You also have what, the highest paid wide.
receiver making like 15 million more than the highest paid cornerback.
And you have things like that.
And so the second he steps on to an NFL football field, he's going to be my favorite
player in the NFL.
Again, I just think he's a freak.
I think he's built different.
I think he can do whatever he wants and be elite at it.
And so, yeah, going to be one of my favorite players in the NFL.
So happy to take him on his team, even if this is a hedge because I don't quite know who my
RB3, RB4 is right now.
Yeah, I think that's an interesting one.
And why don't we just go around the horn here?
We'll start with Thomas and then Ryan and then Brett and then Joe.
Where would you take Travis Hunter if we,
he was never going to play cornerback in the NFL.
He was strictly a wide receiver prospect.
And you could throw him in this whole group without the threat of losing him to
defensive snaps or potential injury on defense.
Thomas, where would you be out on this one?
He's my second pick off the board.
He would be because he'd just be a wide receiver getting drafted in
top what four or five picks as he's projected yeah i'm just just from again market price alone
is my instant second pick but i'm i'm mad because i thought i'd get him at 11 and scott swooped in
so now i have to change it up but he's somebody that in the fantasy points discord we're discussing
if we would reach from in the second and he's not getting past the first and here's why it's
simply because I'm not afraid of a zero.
I'm not afraid of a rookie
busting out completely
and being a near zero for me
because as much as the fantasy community
doesn't love to say it,
there's going to be a few of these first round picks
that are not as productive as we hope.
And the pure upside of a receiver like Hunter,
I'm willing to take that chance at the 11th,
especially if I'm a natural 111 or a natural
19, meaning you've earned that spot.
Your team is good.
You can take on a little bit more risk.
For a profile like his, I'm just going to happily take all of that risk.
I just want to say, I think that's a great point.
Like, you look at Amika Agbuka, who's like the consensus and a wide receiver three in the
class, round one pick.
His ceiling is touching his floor.
Like he's a very high floor player.
I don't think he's a difference maker.
upside wins championships in fantasy you look at a tray harris not to shit all over these guys you're
probably going to take it around or two um brett's comp is poor man's robio dubs what is that worth
in fantasy nothing that is that is a roster clogger uh who is just sitting on your bench taking up
space and so yeah yeah chase the ceiling here yeah i'm i'm i'm down with that but i will say like
the most likely scenario because it's easier to be it makes more sense to be a full-time cornerback
and get like a few packages on offense and the reverse of that.
I do think, I do worry.
And like if you're,
if you're not a 80% route share or higher guy as a wide receiver,
it's really hard to make an impact.
But what Thomas was saying is like a zero is like worth exactly the same,
if not more than like exactly the same as like Trey Harris averaging 9.3 fantasy points
per game throughout his rookie contract, something like that.
So, yeah.
Sorry to jump in there, but I just, yeah, great point, Thomas.
No, it was absolutely fired by Thomas.
That's why you should be listening to Dynasty Points every single week right here on this channel.
Ryan, let's talk about for you, where would you have Travis Hunter in the context of this class if he was only a wide receiver?
Yeah, I'm pretty much with Thomas here.
He would be my rookie 102.
Really the reason for that is I prefer Ted McMillan's profile just as a receiver, kind of,
a vacuum. But yeah, the draft capital really matters here. So in this hypothetical where Travis
Hunter is just routinely being mocked inside the top five, but we had like this guarantee that he
was going to be a full-time receiver. Yeah, that's just worth so much. It's worth more than a no,
Marion Hampton where we're guessing it landing spot still. We think he's somewhere inside the first
round type of deal. So yeah, just that security tied to like a great to awesome profile like hunters,
would be the rookie 102 for me.
I would largely kind of echo Thomas's and Scott's thoughts as well on in practice,
where do you take him?
I do think kind of end of the first round of a rookie draft right now is where like that
risk reward starts to tip in favor of the reward for me with him.
And Brett, for you, just how did he stack up against Tet in terms of just wide receiver
film?
Yeah, Ted's a far significantly better prospect that receiver to me.
than Hunter.
But to answer the initial question, I have no idea.
I would defer to, you know, actual dynasty players on where he's valuable to select.
I don't know.
I do think the projected draft capitals, because he's the best corner in the draft,
not because he's the best receiver in the draft.
So I think if he was a receiver only, you'd probably see him come off the board somewhere
between like 18 and 26.
So a little bit different from a draft capital standpoint, but still really like him.
still would be my wide receiver too by a mile.
So, yeah.
Anything to add on Hunter before we move on, Joe?
No, nothing really.
I would, I, I know there's like some conflicting opinion as there would be when there's a guy who's this elite of a prospect about where he better fits.
Again, I'm not, I'm not big comp guy, but when one comes to mind, I'll throw it out there.
Travis Hunter to me, just watching him, he kind of looked like,
Chris Alave with better hands, maybe a little bit more competitive Chris Alave as a receiver.
What does that get you?
From like what profile gets you more excited?
Ted McMillan is Drake London or Travis Hunter as Chris Alave.
And I think there's a good debate to be had on that.
Maybe I'm underrating Travis Hunter as a wide receiver.
But I feel like I would have him coming off the board in the three or four range.
The draft capital at running back is going to be so important for after.
and Janty and O'Marion Hampton, it's going to be hard for me to pass on those guys for Travis
Hunter. Now, how about you, Ryan, your OTC here at the 110? Yeah, so there's a couple kind of
strategies you can take. I think if this is my dynasty team, we're actually doing our
rookie draft pre-NFL draft, I might lean more towards the wide receivers that are available on
the board here, like a Matthew Golden, like a
Luther Burden, just because at the receiver position, the value is a lot more determined
by their overall profile, by their draft capital, which at least for those two names I just
mentioned, I would say is a bit more locked in a lot more likely first round draft capital
than some of the running backs we look at.
But kind of in the same Travis Hunter spirit, I do think it's okay to kind of pivot and take
more of a riskier approach here and draft a running back that we can.
see fly up boards with an ideal landing spot with slightly better than expected draft capital.
And all of that says Quinshan Judkins to me right now.
So he is going to be the pick.
Just from an athletic perspective, I really want to highlight.
Judkins had one of the best broad jumps just in Combine history.
He's the only guy in my database to go over 11 feet in the broad jump at over 220 pounds.
The BMI adjusted broad jump is fairly predictive of production, especially as we always talk about,
athleticism at the running back position, mattering most at those hyper extremes.
Judkins is in that.
I mean, day two running backs recently that were anywhere near Judkins in terms of the broad jump,
it's Alvin Camara, it's Derek Henry, it's Nick Chub, David Johnson, Reese Hall,
and the only like non-hits are your A.J. Dillans and your Amir Abdullah's.
So I am pretty happy to just kind of take a shot on the prospect here.
I know some opinions vary in terms of does that athleticism actually show up in his college production?
That I am sure that's something Scott might have some more thoughts on based on what he was tweeting this morning.
But yeah, I'm kind of happy to just click the button on a Judkins and enjoy like the post NFL draft profits if he's going to go and wait round one to an ideal landing spot.
Yeah, I mean, I think the Judkins would have been even more of a story if Omari and Hampton didn't have that insane combine.
So that's been a guy that Brett and I have talked about multiple times on this channel.
He's definitely a riser.
Neck and neck for me with Trayvion Henderson.
Let's pass it back to Thomas here at the 111.
Who are you going with, Thomas?
Yeah, just positionally, it's Jackson Dart, it's quarterback.
I've heard Brett talk enough about Dart being a first round pick,
kind of seen it start to become more of a accepted prediction.
If that happens, I cannot pass up on him at 11.
A first round quarterback just shouldn't get into the second round of Superflex drafts on principle.
This is the Michael Pennix became a meme, right?
Drafted at the 204 and now he's being drafted in the fourth round of a stunt.
You just don't let that slide.
Not to mention, I also don't think he's what I refer to as a pylon quarterback,
someone who's just going to stand there.
I think he's able to give you the Baker Mayfield rushing upside from what I understand.
Keep in mind, Baker's not a Konami rushing quarterback,
but he gave you 378 rushing yards,
which is insanely valuable.
And that means rushing touchdown opportunity.
just a really great safe pick.
Historically speaking,
there's been two to three quarterbacks
that I can remember,
one of them being Bryce Young recently,
that if they get on the field and just play
had lost any value
in terms of your return on investment.
So they're just a safe lock.
They get the most leeway,
easy pick to make.
Yeah,
and Brett,
just for anybody who's a first time,
listener, you've been a huge Jackson Dart proponent, like for taking him ahead of a lot of these
guys. And he's been your QB1 in this class. Talk about his potential impact in fantasy football.
I mean, it's pretty massive. He's got a pretty high floor with the things he does now and he's got
a really high ceiling. So I talk about all these QB centric traits that I really appreciate,
throwing within rhythm, throwing accurately, running plays as they're designed, good
you know, footwork in the pocket, pocket presence, ability to reset your line of scrimmage.
He does all that at a really high level, but he's also, and Thomas completely undersold his
rushing upside. This is a guy with 2,000 rushing yards the last two years.
2000 in the, or sorry, the last three years, the last two years, he has 50 explosive runs
in 70 touchdowns or first downs on the ground as a runner.
So like this is a legitimate rushing threat.
you know, the Konami Code thing definitely applies them.
He will be a better runner in the NFL than Baker-Mayfield, even better than Bo Nix that we saw last year.
So, I mean, he gives you all this.
He has the highest ceiling, I think, from a fantasy standpoint of any of these quarterbacks.
Because Cam Ward is, you know, he's moderately athletic and he doesn't really run the football,
where Jackson Dart is a guy you're going to run-kegee run game through.
Like, that's his skill set.
So, yeah, I absolutely love him.
He's my QB1 in the class.
in general and then we just talk for
fantasy specifically he is the best
fantasy driven tool set
so then can I if you don't
can I just ask then so you're saying he's
more Konami I put in that
37380 it sounds like
you're meaning more early Russ
with 5 to 850
as your possibility
for him yeah that seems
that seems fair yeah at 111
I'm going to sleep like a baby
yeah no that's great
pick you obviously snite me as well so that's
did yeah take that well brett which which where you're going to go to close out our first round here
yeah i don't know this is this is uh with dark coming off the board here i don't like any of
the other receivers in this spot so i'm probably going to go and i'm to see this is where like
not being a dynasty guy like really hurts me um i think i got to go should i just stand on the draft
board guys is how should what i should do i'll go r j harvey running back ee
That's my guy.
He's an absolute machine.
You know, for a league that's chasing explosive plays, RJ is just going to give you a ton of explosives.
He's super fast.
He's got elite change of direction skills, really good, you know, usage at UCF.
The production speaks for itself.
And then on top of that, he's got a lot of experience in different types of run concepts.
So I think that's going to help him get into the next level.
He's kind of team landing spot agnostic from that standpoint.
Yeah, so Brett, you lose out on your flag plant quarterback, but RJ Harvey has certainly been your flag plant running back.
You have him at RB3 overall in this class, correct?
For the running back spot?
Yeah, RB3 overall, yep.
And all of our rookie rankings have been updated on the site.
You can go and find those at fantasy points.com.
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Welcome back to Fantasy Football Daily.
quick recap for our podcast listening audience.
We took Ashen Genty at the 101, O'Marion Hampton at the 102,
Ted McMillan at the 103, Cam Ward off the board at the 104,
Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland, consecutive tight ends at the 105 and the 106,
Shudur Sanders at the 107, Travion Henderson, running back Ohio State at the 108,
Travis Hunter, the wide receiver slash cornerback from Colorado at the 109,
Quinn Sean Judkins, an additional Ohio State running back, goes off the board at the 110,
Jackson Dart at the 111, and Brett closed out the first round with R.J. Harvey running back from
UCF at the 112. We're going to pick up the pace here a little bit in the second round here.
Joe, get us started at the 201.
Yeah, so if there's anything I've learned from Ryan Heath's work this offseason, if that
draft capital matters. It's one of the great predictors of fantasy success. And look, we don't
have draft capital just yet. So we're going to go on projected draft capital at NFL
mock draft database.com, which basically organizes all the mock drafts anybody does, big, small,
in between, including Brett Whitefield's mocks. One of the most popular,
consensus picks at a skill position is Matthew Golden, the wide receiver from Texas to the Dallas
Cowboys at 12th overall. Seems pretty obvious that he's going to go in the first round at this point,
or at least the high second round. 12th overall seems to be as early as I've seen him go.
People love his speed, although I know Brett had some questions about the time speed of what,
429. Seems like that might actually be erroneous. Nonetheless, he can move. He can create down
the field. Matthew Golden, if he's a first round pick, and I get him at 2-1 in a rookie draft,
I'm feeling pretty good about Matthew Golden there. No, I love the value, and you certainly
brought up the fact that he's going to be a potential top 15 pick, and you're getting him at the
201. Brett, we were, we were on Matthew Golden before he ran the 429. So this was a, this was a,
kind of a fun bonus for me. I love that value that Joe just got. Let's keep this thing going at the,
2.2 here,
A Mecca Egbuka for me.
And I know Scott, you brought up sort of the potential upside for him.
People have question marks about it.
But I think there's also teams that are going to look at Emeka Agbuka and use him like we saw Kansas City using Rashi Rice.
Brett's talked about him as a guy who can win in the slot.
And I think in today's NFL, a meca-agbuka could be a guy that's early on in his career,
125 target type with a chance to take that.
that next step forward.
You talk about Jackson Smith and Jigba,
talk about Rashi Rice.
There's archetypes where this sort of profile translates to fantasy.
And in terms of draft capital,
I think he's going to be a top 40 selection.
So I'm happy to get him at the 202.
I've taken him around the one-two turn multiple times
in these dynasty rookie drafts.
I think this is very good value.
Scott, let's kick it to you at the 203.
Yeah, I'm taking Cam Scada, though,
for sure, one of my guys.
absolutely love him. I think he would need to run like an offensive lines 40-yard dash time with like a six three cone in order to not be one of my guys. But you just look at a production profile. It's a, you ignore projected draft capital, athleticism, maybe age. It's like a 99th percentile. Just production off the charts, hyper-efficient, tons of past catching upside. He's so damn fun to watch. So,
love me some cam scatabo for sure one of my guys.
Ryan, you are at the 204.
I am and I'm on an island here very obviously,
kind of with the other guys in the room,
but I've got Luther Burden as the pick here.
So from just a raw production standpoint,
Burden has inarguably one of the most impressive seasons
of any wide receiver in this draft class.
Kind of the problem is, as Brett and Scott have discussed extensively,
on their show.
There's a lot of reasons to discount that production, right?
A lot of it coming on slot fades, a lot of it coming on screens.
Definitely big questions in terms of,
is Luther Burden a good enough route runner,
a good enough real-life receiver to command targets at the NFL level?
But, I mean, the NFL, if he goes in round one,
is saying they think he is.
So given that that's the case,
I'm just kind of happy to take that guy in the second round of rookie draft,
where the hit rates are generally really poor anyway.
He's a good athlete.
Maybe he kind of wins that way in terms of manufactured touches even into the NFL.
So I'm pretty happy to take burden here well after he's likely to go in most rookie
drafts.
But, yeah, again, just a function of the room and people's opinions in here.
Well, I know Brett and I dumped all over him.
But I think he's, I'd rather have him than, like, Bucca, I'd rather have him than Matthew
Golden.
He should have went a number of picks ago.
It was really just like versus consensus of him as like this this round one pick or a lot of analytics guys have had him as wide receiver one.
There's concerns.
But yeah, I like him more than Matthew Golden.
I like him more than at Buka.
I think I think Brett disagrees.
But he's of the archetype that plays really well for fantasy.
Draft capital looks high.
Like you said, I think that was a fine pick.
He is way more ceiling than a guy like Igbuka for sure.
So I get on board from that standpoint.
I just don't think there's any chance he goes.
goes in the first round.
Well, we will know soon, 31 days out from the NFL draft.
Thomas, you were at the 205.
Yeah, I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but Jalen Milrose, my pick.
Like, it's, I'm sorry, but listening to everybody in this room, super smart player prospects,
experts, and I'm hearing, well, maybe, sort of could possibly the right landing spot,
maybe, you know what is forever?
Quarterback second score 16 to 18 points per game being valuable and superflex.
And a lot can be said about Milrose ability as a quarterback, not a quarterback scout here.
I'll never pretend to be.
What I do know is quarterback who runs can score a lot of points.
Trey Lance, who is laughably horrible at playing the position of quarterback in the healthy
games that he didn't leave slash was involved in a monsoon was able to put up over 17 points
for game you don't have to be an elite quarterback to put up 17 16 points for game if your go
to safety valve is you taking off so i'm just going to take that and again we're talking about
a pick at what 201 2 3 4 206 yeah that that's something you're being
able to sell for a first round pick if you want to get out when you can so long as he plays
and just shows rushing upside because people just they love it you can easily get out of that
pick there's zero zero risk for you and all reward and brett we've talked about this in superflex
jillan milro might not be a long-term answer for some NFL teams but any single time he's on an
NFL field he's probably in our starting lineup for fantasy because of some of the stuff
Thomas talked about in terms of his rushing upside, his athleticism.
Where are you projecting him to go in the NFL draft, maybe in your next few mock drafts?
I don't know.
Ballpark.
Pittsburgh picks at 83.
That would be a good spot for him.
There we go.
There we go.
Yeah, and I think that's one that people would get excited about.
Give us your 206 here, Brett.
206. I'm going to go, I'm going to stick with the premium position theme and I'm going to go Elijah Arroyo,
tight end from Miami. He's got the profile I love at tight end. He's a freak athlete. We see the position
basically be dominated by freak athletes and pretty much any one of the recent Hall of Fame caliber
tight ends have a similar profile to Arroyo where they absolutely just came out of nowhere to dominate,
whether that was Rob Grunkowski, Jimmy Graham.
I cited them all in the prospect profile.
Go check it out.
He's an absolute beast, though.
And I think, you know, there's a chance he gets late round one draft capital,
for sure early round two.
And when you talk about a complete skill set as a receiver and a guy who legitimately
could dominate the NFL, like he might have a higher ceiling than both Warren and
Loveland.
And I know that's a hot take.
But the guy's an absolute freak.
Yeah.
And Joe and Brett,
We loved him down at the senior bowl, and it wasn't hard to, like, pick him out.
The guy stood out so, so much, especially day one, just exploded onto the scene,
was one of the best players at any single position down in Mobile.
I mean, yeah, we, I think one of the first clips that Trey, Trey Camerling posted from the
Fantasy Points account was Elijah Royo just absolutely routing up some scrub.
And it might not have even been a scrub, but he absolutely destroyed him with a double move.
and that was one to get excited about.
My next door neighbors of Miami season ticket holder.
And he's like, did you see Arroyo down there?
I said, as a matter of fact, he was one of the first players to stand out.
So Elijah Arroyo, you know, making a name for himself in that class.
I think a lot of us were really excited to see Harold Fanon,
but it was Elijah Arroyo who stood out more at the senior moment, for sure.
Yeah, and highly recommend Ryan Heese extensive research on athleticism in terms of draft capital.
But one thing that when Ryan and I have,
had a chance of podcast together.
He talked about how athleticism at the tight-in spot matters so much more than any other
spot.
And Arroyo, that guy's a big-time, big-time athlete.
Joe, keep us going here with your selection.
Yeah.
So while I talked up Amari and Hampton and Ashton Janty earlier, you know, Hampton's
measurables and how he compares to Deuce McAllister, you know, one of the things about the running
back position is if I think just a guy being a good football player, matter.
more than just about anything else.
You know, Scott highlighted it when he talked about Cam Scadaboo.
Well, all right, yeah, he might run a 4-7, but he's a good football player.
And I think Caleb Johnson's a good football player.
I don't think maybe he tested the way he would have liked.
He ran a, what, a 457, 458 somewhere around there.
But the profile, he's big.
He can contribute in the passing game.
And it's a spot at running back.
If he falls to a place where the coach just loves his game, the fact that he has a three-down
skill set, that's fantasy.
points right there. You know, we're talking about somebody over the last two years in
Kairn Williams, who's not a great athlete at all, and he's just produced big time numbers because
his coaches trust him. I think Caleb Johnson, if he lands somewhere on day two, I don't think he's
going to be a first round pick, but if he lands somewhere on day two in a spot where, like Dallas,
for instance, where they need a running back, there is potential RB1 for fantasy as a rookie,
and that's a really nice value for me towards the back end of the second round of a rookie draft.
I love your pick, and you certainly snipe me right there.
Last week when Brett and I talked about dream landing spots,
Brett talked about potential for Caleb Johnson landing in Chicago in that David Montgomery role.
I think that would get fantasy football managers really, really excited.
Highly recommend you go back and listen to some of these episodes where Brett and I dove into the dream landing spots,
some of the NFL comparisons.
Those were a lot of fun.
So you snipe me, Joe.
You took Caleb Johnson.
So I'm going to take Bachel, too.
I just wanted to add on one.
I love that pick by Joe.
And I just wanted to mention Joe, believe it or not, he's currently, if you look at ADP for just the month of March to date, Caleb Johnson's going off the board at the 110 in drafts in these formats as the RB5.
And so clearly day two capital is at least being factored in, whether it's second or third round.
I don't think anyone's really expecting the first round, but this is such a beautiful pick at this spot.
because like you said, just a good football player.
If you add where market has him anywhere near this spot,
if you're currently doing pre-NFL draft dynasty rookie drafts because you're a bigger
lunatic than I am, every pick at this spot, if he's there, should be Caleb Johnson,
just by market alone.
Yeah, and I was disappointed to see Joe select Caleb there.
I was going to take him.
I got excited he was falling in this range.
I'm going to take Bachel Toot.
this is certainly a player that is steamed up since the NFL combine.
Unbelievable athleticism, 432 40-yard dash.
He had a vertical jump of 40 and a half inches,
which was also the best of the running backs.
Absolute athletic freak with production to back it up at Virginia Tech.
I like the fact that he transferred up,
played at North Carolina, A&T and the Miac,
transferred up to the ACC,
had tremendous amount of production there.
And now I think with this performance,
he's almost a lock for me to be selected on day two.
I'm excited about Tutin, and I think this is a good, good value for him in the mid-second
round.
Let's keep it going here.
Pass it to Scott at the 209.
Yeah, well, I was bummed.
I just got snived on my two running back, so I'll pivot to wide receiver.
I feel like this is maybe a little bit more of Brad's guy than my guy, who he'll probably
take with his pick.
but I'm going to go with ELEC, Eumenor, wide receiver two, according to Brett Whitefield's
Film Grade, Brett is a lead at the wide receiver position.
So really trust him there.
But it was a player I liked.
I liked right off the bat.
And then the more I dug in, the more I liked and the more I dug into everyone else, the
more I liked him.
And so, yeah, I think this is good value for Ehrlich Eumonor.
And Brett, just quickly share your thoughts on him because this has been a guy that you've
talking about for like a year?
Yeah, first and foremost.
I mean, he's, he's a just a workaholic, culture fit guy.
He's a big X-type wide receiver.
He's rocked up, super muscular build.
But body control is my number one trait for wide receivers.
And Ellic Auminau has body control in droves.
He's an excellent route runner for his size.
You know, great at the catch point.
There isn't a lot he can't really do.
Awesome in the run game.
There's tape of him blocking.
and cornerbacks like 20 yards out of bounds on run plays.
I mean, I think he's a big time.
Like his draft capital should be higher than people think because I think teams fall in
love with the character.
He's also only been playing football for a few years, which is worth noting.
Very new to football.
I think was it trade, Scott, that told his senior year he is when he started football,
senior year of high school.
So, yeah, big time potential growth here.
Pretty much love everything about his profile.
Ryan Heath at the 210.
Yeah, so just keeping with the theme of sniping all of Brett Whitefield's favorite wide receivers,
I'm taking his wide receiver three on his board, which is Jalen Noel.
It's amazing to me that Brett likes his film so much, but also from an analytical perspective,
I think Noel is interesting because he was a full-time player, his entire college career,
still despite that, despite being on the field so much as a freshman and a sophomore,
above a career two yards per outrun,
which is a nice kind of threshold we like our receivers to be above.
And you can close your eyes and imagine if Noel weren't sharing the field
with Jaden Higgins his last couple of seasons,
another projected day two wide receiver,
then his numbers could be even better.
So really my only concern with him is how much does he play in the slot
versus will he stay on the field into receiver sets in the NFL?
I know Brett has positive opinions about that as well.
well. But yeah, just kind of the exact type of wide receiver I like to draft in round two of
rookie drafts where there's just one thing about his profile that could have totally popped
if some circumstance were a little bit different in college.
Yeah, definitely, definitely a great pick there. This must be painful for Brett to see all of his
guys going off the board back to back here. Thomas, are you going to snipe Brett again or
which way are you going here at the 211? I don't think I will. I'm going to go Harold Fanon here
just again, tight end premium.
I think he can be a very productive
tight end, which means
in tight end premium, he's already
better than a lot of wide receiver three and
fours, just on that
if he gets the opportunity to play.
On Dynasty points this last week, we had Max
Tuscano of Remember the Tidens on
talking about the wide receiver test.
And Fannin passes that in terms of a production standpoint
in college, even if the athleticism
isn't necessarily what we all hoped for,
but we're looking at a pick at the 211,
where he could potentially get a starting tight end.
We want to talk about athleticism,
athleticism in tight ends,
and how you can still be successful
if you aren't a super athlete.
Look at Zach Ertz,
who might be less athletic than I am,
and he was still very productive.
All he has to do is get on the field,
show that he can play and earn some targets,
and at the 2-11, like Scott is the man for saying,
upside wins championships.
Upside plus, again, tight-end value wins dynasty leagues in tight-end premium.
I'll happily take them here.
Ahead of market, by the way, just very happy to do so.
And Scott, you talked about Harold Fanon Jr. a lot.
Can you share brief thoughts on him before we wrap up this round of the 212?
Yeah, I think that was a great pick.
Maybe it should have been my pick.
just the most productive season in college football history stats off the charts.
You could read my article.
You could watch our film versus analytics episode, which dropped very recently,
so you can check that out.
Concerns maybe athleticism a little bit.
More than anything, just size, blocking ability, worry about him being a full-time player.
But this is one of my guys, a guy I want to take a chance on upside off the charts.
All right.
Well, let's wrap up the round, Brett, at the first.
the 212. I'm going to go the other Iowa statewide receiver, Jaden Higgins, here.
And I'm actually deviating from my board a little bit. I have Jack Bash as a higher overall
rated player. But Higgins is, I think he profiles better for fantasy, where this is an X-type
receiver who can play a bully ball as a big power slot, insane athletic profile,
catch radius galore. And he's a fantastic route runner for his size.
Six-four guys just typically don't run routes like this. We have two of them in this class,
with Ted and Jaden Higgins here.
So I think Higgins gets the second round draft capital two.
And he could potentially be a team's wide receiver one,
which is great for fantasy at the 212.
So a quick recap of round two.
Matthew Golden goes off the board at the 201,
wide receiver from Texas,
wide receiver, Emeka Egbuka from Ohio State at the 2002.
Cam Scataboo running back from Arizona State goes at the 203.
Luther Burden, wide receiver from Missouri,
goes at the 204. Jalen Milrow quarterback from Alabama goes at the 205.
Elijah Arroyo tight end from Miami goes at the 206.
Caleb Johnson running back Iowa goes to the 207.
Basial Tutin running back from Virginia Tech goes at the 208.
Eelick Ayamanner, wide receiver from Stanford at the 209.
Jalen Noll, wide receiver from Iowa State at the 210.
Harold Fanon Jr. tight end from Bowling Green at the 211.
and then Brett Whitefield wrapped up the second round with Jaden Higgins,
wide receiver, Iowa State.
We're going to lightning round this third round, starting with Joe Dolan at the 301.
Yeah, I'm going to take the MVP of the Senior Bowl, guy who stood out in practices,
Jack Besh, yeah, Besh.
That's what I'll be calling him.
He, former tight end, inside, outside versatility.
Actually, when he was a tight end at LSU, outproduced the likes of Malik neighbors and
Brian Thomas, which is just staggering to me.
Maybe that talks about the problems that LSU had.
But Jack Bash, I feel like Brett, Brett compared him to a combination of Pook
and Nakuwa and Cooper Cup.
Well, given what he compared Pook and Akua to, to Justin Jefferson a couple
years ago, that's good enough for me.
I'll take Jack Bash at the 3-1.
Yeah, and I'll continue my theme of very, very athletic running backs.
I'm going to take DJ Giddins of Kansas State at the 302.
I think NFL teams are going to really value athleticism and big playability at the running back spot this year.
I think DJ Giddens is going to be drafted on day two.
And I think he's a great value here at the beginning of round three.
Scott, which way are you going at the 303?
Taking Damien Martinez running back.
Another one of Brett's guys.
A player actually watched the tape on.
He had this one play against Louisville that gave me priapism.
He carried like five defenders, 15 yards.
So check that out.
Fun player to watch, another one of Brett Skies.
Ryan, at the 304, which way are you going?
Yeah, we're going to go, Trey Harris.
Another guy that the industry is probably going to be a lot higher on than the 304.
But, I mean, best season yards per outrun in our conference history, I believe,
obviously happened in year five of his college career, so not quite as impressive.
but yeah, that's at least some upside that I'll click in the third round of any rookie draft.
Thomas, you were at the 305.
Which way are you going?
Yeah, I'm absolutely struggling here with who to take.
I admittedly don't carry a lot of thirds in Dynasty leagues because I like scoring points and winning.
But I think I think I'll go Jalen Royals here on this.
pick. I think he's a good wide receiver. I think the market is going to be a little higher on
them than the NFL market is, but that's all I need to be able to make a pick and flip it.
Brett, at the 306. Yeah, apparently I'm just tight end guy because this is my third tight end selected.
I'm going Mason Taylor tied into LSU. I have I have four tight ends in my top 38, which is
unprecedented for me. Taylor is the last one there at my 38th overall player on my big board.
fantastic athlete can literally do anything a tight end's ass to do also has
Hall of Fame bloodlines.
I love gravitating to those guys.
They're usually very good NFL players.
Yeah, and Brett, I know you have him very highly ranked in your overall rankings.
Mason Taylor should be a very highly drafted tight end, I think early second round type.
Joe, which way are you going to 307?
I am going to go to the tight end position as well.
I'm going to take Terrence Ferguson, a guy we saw at the senior bowl.
I believe Brett wrote up and said he would have been his tight end two last year behind Brock Bowers,
which just speaks to how deep this class is.
He's got some alignment and versatility, which is something I like.
It allows him to be deployed in different ways.
So the tight end premium is going to push Terrence Ferguson onto my team with the 3-7.
You snipe me once again, Joe.
I even wrote in Terrence Ferguson.
So here at the 308, I think when you're like Thomas said,
if you're drafting in Dynasty, a lot of times the third round is the time where you want to take shots on running backs.
Guys like Tyrone Tracy, Bucky Irving were in this range last year.
So I could go a number of ways at the running back spot.
I'm going to go with Ollie Gordon, a player that I think at this range, this is a very reasonable bet.
I certainly slipped a lot this year in terms of what we thought he'd be in 2023 after the 2020 season.
But I think here at the 308, it's a fine bet to make.
Scott 309, which way are you going?
Yeah, I'm going to take Dylan Samson,
who is not a player, Brett likes,
not a player I like,
but just looking at projected draft capital ADP,
strong value,
maybe I could flip him or whatever.
So Dylan Samson.
Scott, you sounded so excited to take Dylan Samson right there.
Ryan, which way are you going here at the 310?
Yeah, I'm going Devin Neal running back.
Honestly, just kind of similar vibe to Scott here.
I think what we're learning is,
is trade away your third rounders guys for productive pieces in dynasty.
Because, yeah, I'm not, I'm not that excited to be taking kind of,
kind of undersized running backs that may or may not fall to day three here.
Thomas, you're not making too many 3-Elevens this year in your actual dynasty drafts.
But in this one, your OTC.
Yeah, I'll take Bond here.
I think he's going to be, I think I'm going to finally got a snipen on Brett.
He's just, look, these third round picks, they're very much.
much hit or miss. Like you said, we got some absolute gold last year. I think he's a wide receiver
that is going to be more popular later than he is now. So I feel like he's the type of player.
The NFL is going to like probably better for say real football than fantasy. But I mean,
at the 311, absolutely. Why not? Amber is the color of your energy, Thomas.
Brett
Brett talked about some NFL comps
and potential landing spots for Isaiah Bonn
highly recommend you go back
and listen to those episodes if you're trying to learn
more about this rookie class
Brett wrap us up here at the 312
yeah let me just say I think Bond was the
selection of the round
he's got dynamite in his veins
and if he hits I think he hits big
so I know Thomas has preached upside
this entire show so perfect Thomas pick
right there all right I'm going to finish
out by going, gosh, this stinks.
He can't snipe like that. I'm going to go another running back, Auburn guy, Jarrez
Hunter. He is a guy I am very high on. Scott is also very high on. Profiles is a potential
belcow type, but he's got a ton of explosiveness and he's got some good change of direction
skills. He's not currently in the prospect guide, but he should be by, I don't know,
midnight tonight, Joe. So I'll trade you Damien Martinez for Hunter,
plus. That's that's the plan. All right. Let's let's let's work on that trade. But yeah,
this is a these are the exact type of guys I like to take shots on the third round.
Running backs that have a chance to be a high level starter. It might not work out, but if it hits,
it hits big. Yeah, I think some quality players in this third round. Let's give a recap to our
podcast listing audience. Jack Betch goes off the board of the 301 wide receiver out of TCU,
running back DJ Giddens from Kansas State at the at the 302 at the 303 Damian Martinez running back from Miami at the 304 wide receiver tray Harris from Ole Miss at the 305 Jalen Royals wide receiver out of Utah state at the 306 Mason Taylor tight end out of LSU at the 307 Terrence Ferguson tight end from Oregon at the 308 Ollie Gordon running back Oklahoma
State 309 running back Dylan Samson out of Tennessee.
At the 310, Devin Neal running back Kansas, the 311 wide receiver Isaiah
Bond out of Texas.
And at the 312, Jarrez Hunter, running back Auburn.
Scott Barrett, your favorite pick in this entire draft, which was the best one?
Ash and Gene T.
There you go.
There you go.
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