Fantasy Football Daily - Evan Hull, Chase Brown, Zay Flowers with Thor Nystrom | On the Clock! NFL Draft Podcast

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

Brett Whitefield (@BGWhitefield) welcomes in Thor Nystrom (@thorku) of @FantasyPros to take a long look at Northwestern RB Evan Hull, Illinois RB Chase Brown, and Boston College WR Zay Flowers. Interested in playing Best Ball in 2023? There's no better place than Underdog Fantasy. Use our code FANTASYPTS to sign up for a new account at Underdog, and not only will you get a 100% deposit match up to $100... but you'll get a Fantasy Points Standard subscription for only $5! https://www.fantasypoints.com/underdog --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time to the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoints.com. Top-level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room, with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. And we are back with another episode of On the Clock. I'm your host, Brett Whitefield, and today we have Mr. Thor Nystrom, joining us from Fantasy Pros Thor, how are you, man?

Welcome to the show. I'm doing well, thanks, man. Good to be here. I always love talking prospects with you. I know, man. When did we officially meet? I feel like we've known each other for a while, but maybe not?

I don't know. It had to be in Mobile one of those years, I think. Maybe like the first time in person, but obviously we've been playing in Leaks together and DMing for quite a few years longer than that. But I think the first time in person was in Mobile. That is true. I think you're right about that.

Well, cool. So, yeah, Thor, you know, he comes over from fantasy pros. You were also at what NBC Sports Edge for a while. Yeah, I was at, to start my career as NBC, I think I ended up being there for like 12 years. Oh my gosh, yeah. Yeah, a long time. When it comes down to just the college football game in general, you're probably the most knowledgeable person that I know. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I can't get enough of it. I, you know, just end up watching a lot.

But yeah, I just love that stuff. You know all the incoming high school players and freshman. Like I don't start watching guys until they're like roughly draft eligible. And you're like on top of you've already been watching these guys for years. So it's like you got upstart on everyone. Yeah. And it's fun too. Like, you know, when people start watching the film, their perceptions of guys and how it's different from mine and whatnot.

But there's always big discrepancies like, well, I know we're going to talk about so. But Jalen Hyatt would be what I was talking about on Twitter recently. But there's several of them where I just totally disagree from the popularity. narrative and a part of that is just sort of following their careers throughout watching them live for you know all those years whatnot well right on well let's jump into it but before we do a word from our sponsor underdog fantasy football the 2022 NFL season is over but the fantasy football season never stops an underdog the easiest place to play fantasy football right now you can draft an underdog's the big board tournament with one million dollars in total prizes in 200k to first place if you think you

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now that that is taking care of it out of the way let's get rolling here. Give me so the normal format we do Thor is I ask guys for a player they're higher on the most, player they're lower on the most and some team player fits that you want to pound the table for. I didn't really prep you for anything, though,

because I figured you and I have enough rapport, we could just roll with this. So, yeah. A guy you're higher on the most, though. Are we going position by position or just any guy? Just any guy. We'll talk about them in detail. Sure.

Well, one guy toss off for this right away is Evan Hall, the running back from Northwestern, happens to be a local Minnesota kid. I hope my, that's not informed of my bias too much, but I really like that kid's game. And he didn't get the ability to show off all of his stuff just because of the situation he was in. Yet the one other singular talent on the Northwestern offense in Skoronsky,

but outside of that, rest of the offensive line stunk, the quarterback play stunk, the rest of the skills stunk. So Evan Hall came into game sort of like a marked man, especially this past season, but really like his game. Super duper versatile, first off, a guy that can be deployed out of the slide, deployed out wide.

His percentage of snaps in each of those roles is near the top of this running back class. His ADOT is near the top of this running back class. catches, receptions, receiving, the whole thing. He's near the top of it. And that all manifests on film. The different ways that you can shift them out, use them. He's a great route runner, both out of the backfield.

Also, you know, slot or even out wide. The hands play as well. So the receiving element, you're just, that's just, it's going to be there. But I also believe that he is underrated as a runner. He has decent size. He measured into the combine, let's see, at 214. and he had a RAS of 9.22, prove the concept of the athleticism. People before were saying that he was going to run in the 4-6s.

That was absolutely a myth. And I think I know why that myth started. I won't get into that. But Evan Hall was a track star in Minnesota, who, you know, I mean, like, that's just the speed thing wasn't an issue. He told us in Mobile he was going to run in the 4-4-4s. He did. And then the other, you know, I think it was 4-4-7, 4-46, something like that. but then the other tests were also like on point as well i think there's a lot of different things

you you know again that you can use with them and i don't think his game he picked up as many like there's guys like cam acres or i'm trying to think of some of the other guys in recent years where they played behind really bad offensive lines and some of those guys they would start to develop bad habits skittishness or trying to bounce it too soon or like different stuff like that um and the lack of patience then sort of manifested at the NFL level is like they were sort of permanently scarred with this. I don't think that's going to be the same case with Evan Hall, really good at sensing pressure at the gate right away, you know, when there would be the immediate penetration and then developing a plan, you know, an alternate plan slap dash, right? Like,

a thing he's great at is getting lateral down the line and then just zooming around and taking the edge, different stuff like that. But when he plays with a better offensive line where they're not getting manhandled the whole time, I think you're going to see him better between the tackles and different stuff like that than he was able to show. in college just because of the situation. Yeah, so, I mean, you and Derek Brown obviously talk a lot. Right. Yeah.

So Derek's been on the show. He came on here and touted Evan Hall the same way. Yeah, we love Evan Hall. Yeah, yeah. Who's influencing you, you influencing him or him influencing you? Well, it's funny. Like the first time we talked about Hall because he was watching all the senior bull guys, you know, and like you mentioned, like I've watched these guys for years,

following for years. But, you know, guys that cover the, because I cover college football first. So that's, you know, whatever. but like the NFL guys Derek had he didn't have the exposure to Hall so it was funny because he he watched he's watching the tapes one by one of the guys in those weeks leading up to the senior ball and he called me one day and he's like this Evan Hall kid can play and I was like yeah he can you know he's more athletic than people think he's better than people think he has a more diverse skill set than people think and and and then Derek was going nuts about the things that that he was seeing too and we had a strong conviction that he was going to test way better than people thought we were we were we were at proven right on that account. But yeah, I mean, like, he's a guy that we both like, and we're both going to be pounding the table for the rest of the draft process as far as, like, the deep sleeper running backs,

because Evan Hall is super underrated. Yeah, I, Derek and I have argued relentlessly about Hall. I do so more to just troll him because Derek is fun to troll. I think I'm probably higher on Hall than consensus is, to be honest, even though I don't love his game. But two things I thought stuck out to me, well, you talked about his speed. I kind of pegged him for a four. five guy and then at the combine he ran a four five three and a four four seven so I feel pretty good that

i was almost right on that mark they obviously they take the higher score so four four seven i do think at times you see that on tape you see that speed there's other times where for whatever reason he had trouble breaking pursuit angles of of defensive backs and that's usually what i'm looking for to really gauge your top gear but ultimately i do think when he gets in that when he can hit a straight line and go you you see the speed show up but one thing that's really intriguing, especially for you fantasy football players, you listeners. Evan Hall has a three-down skill set. Yes.

And Thor, there's not a lot of guys in this draft that do. No, there's not. Yeah, and the things you can do with them as a receipt. Yeah, it's just there's not a ton of guys you can compare like that for sure. Yeah, it's a deep running back class as far as there's probably like 15 to 20 guys that can play football, but it's not deep from the standpoint of you're going to find developed three down players. And I think Evan Hall is definitely one of those guys.

For that reason alone, Thor, I think he could probably go higher than anybody realizes. I agree. Yeah, especially after he proved the concept of the combine, 92nd percentile, athletic score, Raz. So, yeah, I mean, I totally agree with that. Where do you see him going? I know you're not into, like, predicting things necessarily, but where do you see him going in the draft? Well, it's crazy. Like, I look, like, I don't want to throw anyone under the bus.

But I look around, you know, at some of the other big boards around the industry. And, you know, people have them as, like, a seventh rounder, even UDFA guy. And it's like, like, even just the receiving utility alone is worth more than that. And also he offers these other things. So like, I agree with your opinion that at the end of the day, he's going to end up going higher than he is ranked right now. I don't know if he gets up to the fourth round right now. Like, if I had to pay how the NFL is going to do it, I would say fifth. But like, you know, the juice is worth the squeeze there.

He's going to provide you value over the cost there. say he goes in the fifth round but if he i mean if he fell under the six or the seventh i think you're going to get sort of a bananza of a value because again if nothing else you know you're getting the good receiving back that thing just speaks for itself he has the a liticism he has the tape to prove out all that that concept etc but there again i think there's a little bit more of hidden value there because i think there's some dormancy of the skill set of him as a runner that we just didn't get because of the situation but even if that doesn't coalesce if if he falls into the six seven around just the receiving ability alone is is going to be worth that as a complimentary back so that's

sort of my tape there i personally i don't see any way he makes it that far i do think the draft community is is just sleeping right this moment on him yeah i think he'll start to get some more hype as we get closer to the draft and team start leaking information where gun to your head though thor say you're you're a decision maker in a chair and you've got to decide where you're picking evan Hall. How high are you willing to go on Evan Hall? Does he get into your day two? Well, for, I think for me, I'll end up ranking him as a fourth rounder probably and maybe even like earlier on there. But like with that, you know, like it's in like the draft rooms. It's got to be the three dimensional chest, a little bit of, you know, not only have the convictions on your guys, but then also have a conviction

that you have an idea with the other teams are going to do. So, you know, you don't want to take, like, you don't want to take them around before anyone else would have obviously. You just have to sort of gauge that. But obviously, like right now, I'm probably, you know, I might be three rounds above the consensus on where I see Evan Hall. But, you know, that wouldn't mean that I would take them early fourth round in that scenario. But you'd have to sort of suss that out. And we'll see as we get down here in the stretch. Because like you mentioned, over the next six weeks here, you would imagine that Evan Hall's, the, that the stock is only going to go up. As people now, you know, they had the opportunity to go back to his tape because he proved

the concept of the athleticism in, uh, in, uh, in, indie after he'd had a very good senior bowl week as well. That's where I think you're going to start to see him jut up on some of these other boards. And we'll see at the end of the day where the NFL has him. But, yeah, fifth round I would feel comfortable about right now that he would get taken there if the draft was tomorrow. Do I think he has a shot to get to the fourth round? Yeah, I do. And, I mean, would he get into the back end of the third?

I don't think so right now just because the, but maybe that's some of my opinions on that is being informed by the bias that I've read about Evan Hall, like to this point. But yeah, that's sort of where I put on. Cool. So my scoring system that I score all the prospects through is a zero to 100 scale. It's a weighted score. You know, there's five different main buckets we're pulling from. Evan Hall came away with the 75.0 in my system, which 75, you know, is the actual cutoff for day two to day three. Oh, right?

For me to get them in the day two. I got a- Well, you like them way more than consensus, too, right? That's what I was saying. Yeah, I tease Derek all the time. But I've actually come to the realization that I actually like him more than consensus. His athletic testing actually did boost him quite a bit. I think prior to that, he was sitting down closer to like a 74, 73.8, which is early day three prospect for me.

But that, you know, like you said, proof of concept is important. And that gave him a good enough bump to get him in the day two conversation. I got to make a decision there, though. I can't be a fence sitter. So our guy, our initial prospect guide comes out Friday for those listening. So I love it. When you get your hands on that, see what decision I made. Love it.

I'll be checking that out, Brett. Awesome, Thor. Real quick, too, where, do you have a team fit you like for him or? I actually do. And you wouldn't have to change his jersey color at all. And they play 10 minutes from me. The Minnesota Vikings, I think, would be sneaky, awesome for Evan Hall. A couple different things.

You've heard now the rumors of them shopping, Delvin Cook, that an offer already has been received for Delving, Cook. Then there was a report yesterday. The rest of the NFL is waiting on the running back market to see what the Vikings do with Cook, whatever. There is a real shot that the Vikings move on from Delvin Cook via trade. And then Madison is an unrestricted free agent right now. The news of the signings are happening so fast. So if someone's listening to this and he's already signed somewhere, you know, just forgive me, but we're not that far in the future yet live. But you know, Madison might be out the door as well. So the Vikings will have to do something there.

and I don't, you know, like you have Imwengu and you have Ty Chandler outside of that they like a little bit. Evan Hall at least I think could be a complimentary guy there. But, you know, again, I think he's got a better shot to handle some of that rushing load than people think. So I think he could actually come in into a situation and contribute much faster and better than people think. And I think the Vikings would be a great one because the kid grew up 20, you know, 30 minutes away from the stadium, whatever, I believe it was Maple Grove. And then, you know, the Vikings actually have a need there because they're top. two running backs could be walking out the door. Right on.

All right. A player you are lower on than consensus. The, let's see. The running backs, well, the running backs, I don't like, that guy that I don't like as much as people by far is, is Chase Brown.

Another one, but Brown might have talked about him too. We both, we don't like Chase Brown. I know he doesn't like Chase Brown, but I don't believe we talked about him. Okay. Well, the thing I'd say about Chase Brown,

Brown is he got so much of his production screaming down the field second and then into the third level. That's how he piled up a lot of these yards. But he was in, I don't think people realize what an advantageous situation he was in because they think of like Illinois, the Levy Smith, Illinois, are like them sucking going back a long time. But with Brett Belemma coming in, the offensive lines were really good run blocking offensive lines. And it sort of facilitated these lines that Chase Brown needed to get into the second and then third levels where he could show off his speed. That's the thing that he's the best at as far as the speed. But he, doesn't break enough tackles, he doesn't elude enough guys where I think when when you even that out at the next level where the offensive line is more or less even to the defensive line.

I don't know that Chase basically it's like in the NBA when they say like the guy can't create his own shot. I think a lot of times Chase Brown with being facilitated out there as opposed to getting there because of his own volition, his own skill set, whatnot. And again, when when that the discrepancy between the offensive line and the defensive line in terms of their run stuffing ability, when that sort of evens out in the NFL, I think a lot of that, that Chase Brown was hanging his hat on is going to go away. The other thing is not good on third downs at all. Like the kid can't catch. He can't run routes. He can't create separation.

And he's also terrible in pass pro is getting ragged all week and Mobile in that aspect. So he's an early down guy where the utility is breakaway. And I don't think you're going to see it as much in the NFL. One other guy that I would toss out is Zach Evans, a guy that I have some trepidations on. Zach Evans, he, you know, initially he had signed a believe. with Georgia as this five-star recruit. But then he gets out of his commitment right away. He's like, I don't want to go to Georgia. So then he surprisingly signs with TCU as this five-star guy. And he, you know, he showed some stuff the first couple years, but he couldn't put away Kendry Miller.

And I think when Zach Evans informed the new coaching staff, Sonny Dice, and then that he was going to leave, I don't think they cared. Because Kendry Miller was a much better fit for that system than Zach Evans was. Then Zach Evans goes to Mississippi. And he's supposed to be this, you know, big bell cow guy. and Lane's going to, you know, give him a million touches because, you know, Mississippi has the fastest running offense and football and whatnot. And it's like, when you were thinking about it over the summer, it's like, oh, man, Zach Evans going to break out and he's going to, you know, dominate whatever. He got beat out by a true freshman, a three-star true freshman. Now, Quinn John Jenkins, guy, we're going to talk about a couple years. He was one of the great finds in this past recruiting process.

There's this great photo that goes around on the internet and on Twitter of Lane Kiffin sitting. He's the only person sitting in the stands watching Quinn-shot Jenkins. So he just sort of found this diamond in the rough or whatever. But Quintchon Junkins beat out Zach Evans to be sort of the 1A of that platoon. Now, Zach Evans still played. But it's a little bit troubling to me that Zach Evans was never clearly the best back out of his teams and over his college career. And that there were, you know, I mean, this past one was a season long where Mississippi explicitly was telling us, Quintzshon Juckins is better than Evans.

Then we go to the, you know, Evans doesn't offer much as a receiver either, you know, yada, yada. But then we go to the combine and Evan's a guy who had been listed, I believe it's six foot flat, 215 by Mississippi. He goes in and he measures in at 510-202. I thought that was interesting. He comes in 13. He was already listed at the threshold. But now he comes in 13 pounds lighter. So it's like, oh, okay.

Well, I suppose it's because, you know, he has, you know, maybe he didn't feel he was going to test as well. So he's lost this weight. so then he's going to go out and try to test better at the lower weight. He didn't test anything. He didn't get out there and do his stuff or whatever. So to me, that is a big red flag when you're not willing to run. You're not willing to do the agility things. When you've already dropped this weight, you already come in way small,

two inches shorter and, you know, over 10 pounds less than your listing, you know, at the current size that he would be at. Now he is beneath the threshold, but he doesn't want to test. Like for me, all that stuff, it's just too many. red flags swirling in the ether. So there's a lot of people that have, you know, some people have Zach Evans top five in their running backs. Some people, most of the rest would have Zach Evans in the top 10.

I don't know that I will have Zach Evans in my top 10. In fact, you know, the way that I don't think he'll be in my top 10 for, for these reasons. We'll see when he ends up testing to see if he can prove any of the concepts of this stuff. But if he goes there again and, you know, now he's 200 pounds or whatever, you know, you have to bake that in. the way he plays, it's, it's, it's as the 215 pound, or even a 220 guy. Like, that's the stuff he's better at.

He's not an airbag guy. So his whole process has been weird to me. And most of his career was weird to me, too. So he's another guy at toss out. Yeah, I have Evans 15th. Dude, same page. It's like the gift that we just become best friends. Yeah, like you and me are seeing that.

But a different way than most, you see Brett, you go around the industry. There's, again, people that have in top five. And I almost everybody else has them top 10. But I just when you look, this running back class, it's a good running back class. And you know, you have the elite talent in Bijan. But then, you know, part of the reason I really like it is because it's deep. And, you know, you sort of run into this thing when you're sort of parsing out, you know, between running back 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 40, 15. There's a lot of guys in there.

You could go as sort of your own flavor. And I just find myself when I comparing him one to one. You know, when I put him, you know, it's like what I prefer taking. Bigsby or I prefer Evans, definitely Bigsby. What I prefer Rochon Johnson or Bigsby, or I'm sorry, Rochon Johnson or Evans, definitely Rochon Johnson. I prefer Evan Hall to Zach Evans. And Dwayne McBride, a similar-ish back, but I trust him way more of the first couple

downs that I do, Zach Evans, I prefer Duay McBride. You just go, Eric Gray, Sean Talker, Israelabonaconda. Like you go down, it's like, oh, man, this is how he starts to fall down your mind, because it's like he's not, like, I would just prefer the other guy. So that's why it's not being like punitive or whatever. That's just where the chips fall on it. Yeah, I agree with pretty much everything you said. We actually, I talked Zach Evans with Ian Cummings yesterday.

So he's a fresh name on the podcast. I did want to touch Chase Brown really quick in some of the things you said there. Yeah. I do. I don't know really where people are ranking him. So I'm not sure if I'm high or low on him. I think he's like 10th or 11th in my scores. But one thing that is definitely clear with him, Thor is that he's,

going to be a scheme-specific landing spot dependent kind of guy. If he lands in a Shanahan-style outside of offense, you're hitting it. Yeah, exactly. He reminds me of like a Jeff Wilson or even a poor man's room. He moistered in a lot of ways. Not an elusive player at all, but he's got that crazy burst and acceleration and top-end speed that, you know, if he has the ability to break, contain on the outside, he's going to be a monster. Very well said.

if he finds that perfect landing spot and they, you know, and they give him the usage situationally, that's where I think you can squeeze the value out. But yeah, the Shanahan thing, you hit it, you know, and some people I think have even tossed out the Mostert, com, whatever. That's, yes, that's the situation kind of situation he has to get in. But it also, you know, so he could, he could outplay, you know, let's say that that happens. He could outplay where we have them drafted or I'm sorry, we have them ranked. But that doesn't, that won't change my opinion at all because you can't, you can't,

You can't give him credit for, like with all these guys, like, oh, if they went into their best spot, whatever, you have to rank them in the vacuum. And if Chase Brown does not get into that perfect situation, I think that's where you see him flame out of the league, maybe a little bit earlier than almost anyone anticipates because of that, you know, the usage specific game. Sure. Yeah, and I throw up the Moster comp. I do want to be clear, though, for the listeners, he's not Mostert fast. He's fast. No. Jeff Wilson fast.

He's, you know, but Mosterts, but he's been like the fast. fastest ball carrier GPS wise like three years in a row or something like that dude is ridiculously fast like he's moistered his tyriek hill level fast and and chase brown is not that so just to be clear on that yeah he is a speed back but he's not reamoster fast i just i mean chase like he ran i got i got to pull it up but he didn't he didn't beat out hall by too much in that let me let me see what he ended up running i know his overall razz was really good 975 was the overall razz and he ran a 4-4-3 so i mean like good you know good speed but it's to you Your point, he's not the, he's not Keaton Mitchell.

He's not Devon Hodge, Shane. He's, you know, he's not one of those guys. It's, it's good speed. But it's like, if that's going to be your card and that's your Trump card, you have to acknowledge it's not an elite one for that to, you know, you know, solder over every other aspect of the evaluation. Yep. All right, Thor, I know you got to get going.

So before I let you go, though, give me one team player fit you want to see, like in the first round potentially. So one guy to one team, you just have to see it. Well, before, you know, I almost had to stick with the Vikings. That's the team I always think about. But like, for me before, it was JSN with the Vikings. But what's interesting, because I just think him next to Jefferson, JSN is just going to eat and go wild with that space that he's provided by Jefferson,

always getting bracketed over the top and or just all right, doubled. See, all that space opens up in the intermediate area. you and I had talked about T.J. Hawkinson going there, how you have it because, you know, we used a basketball metaphor a couple of times on this show. But like in a similar way with basketball, they talk about like how LeBron James, he changes the spacing of the entire floor. That's Justin Jefferson on the one side. And it opens up all this space in the intermediate area. And Hawkinson, of course, feasted on that. And I thought J.S.N. could have feasted on that. One potential complication is they just gave $21 million to Josh Oliver, which I thought was really interesting. And it seems like the Vikings intend to have 12 personnel at all times. maybe even some third team personnel. You know, we'll see how that ends up shaking out. But like if you're delineating one of those spots, then can JSM play the slot? Or did the Vikings, did they think like they did with Justin Jefferson?

They had to convince, because remember, coming out, and I even fell into this trap of Justin Jefferson, he's a slot guy. He absolutely was not a slot guy. He could do whatever you wanted to do with them. JSN, I want to see what he runs at, you know, when he does the pro day because that's the one test that he didn't do. The agility drills were obviously awesome.

But barring him, the other, you know, and depending on the way that the Vikings see that, because I think that might, if they don't see him as an outside guy, that might nullify him there. The other one I would toss out is Zay Flowers. Because Zay Flowers, I know that he can play on the outside despite his size. You're not getting him off the line. His movement is too good. His releases are too good. And then one thing I like about him, everybody talks about the movement and he proved the concept of his speed at the combine.

But most of the guys of that ilk, they only give you the utility short and intermediate, and then you're hoping for the yak yard. Certainly he provides you with that. The thing that I think people sleep on with Zay Flowers is how good he is downfield. He can beat you downfield over and over again. He's both good at the ball tracking, different stuff, you know, of course shaking. But like just the thing of like down the field or whatever, tracking that ball and then giving it a nice target, then reeling the thing in, and then keep trucking up.

not he gives you way more utility downfield than some of these other guys that's a very unique thing for a receiver his size i think he would play really well on the other side from jefferson too yeah i i personally like that zay flowers a little bit more and i also think it's probably more realistic they get a chance at him i don't know that they're going to get a chance at jsn agreed on both accounts yeah so flowers though man he does he gives them that's that make you miss in a phone booth run after catchability which they don't really have on that team right now correct you haven't yeah basically but cook might not even be that there. So I do like that added element. I think, you know, his ability to play in the slot or play

outside works with the, the clear intention to play more 12 personnel. You get KJ. Osborne probably off the field and two receivers sets, which is fine. I think Osborne's a fine third receiver, but we want to upgrade there. Especially in this scenario where he's not on the field every play, right? But that's, he needs to get knocked down to that second slot. You know, obviously feeling out the door. So right now, KJ would be considered your second, but like the Vikings badly need that true outside starting receivers so so kj can get back into the the situational thing and then when you want three receivers on the field obviously he's going to be out there he can give uh zay flowers a blow after you know zay flowers rips down field for a 60-year catch can come off for a player too and kj can run out but that's

they need that other outside starting receiver across from jefferson both to disincentivized defenses from the straight just doubling jefferson every time someone that can can take advantage of all that extra space um but then also knock kj back into the correct spot in the packing order in the universe sort of aligns itself down. I even like the prospects of doing like twins formations and stacks with flowers and Jefferson on the same side. Oh, now we're talking.

I get some bagger concepts and stuff like that that you see Miami doing with Hill and Waddle. And like that is super sexy to me. You can't double both of them. No, you can't. And you bring up Waddle. That is the comp of Eric Golko, the lead of the Shrinegip. That is who he comps Zay Flowers to. And I don't know if I can quite get that high, but like I'm not deducting two to.

much from you know it might be like a half step down whatever but it's the same phylum and you don't see many guys that can move like that and waddle another guy can get the ball down feel obviously a big part of his his game's the yak but um yeah that you know just sort of similar skill set in terms of that yeah style comp i see it 100% waddle was the six player overall for me in his draft classes a flowers isn't quite getting there for me but yeah stylistically they are very similar for sure well right on thor thank you so much for joining the pod we will cut it there but tell people where they can find you. Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at Thor KU, and you can find my work at Fantasy Pros and betting pros on Fantasy Bros. We're attacking the NFL draft hard this year,

so we have all the scouting reports and, you know, the mocks and, you know, all the stuff that you guys like. But I've started now my, my prospect scouting report series. We had the quarterbacks came out last week. It was really fun to dive into that class. And you and I are talking running backs here. My running back piece is coming out in a couple of days on Fantasy pros. So, Brett, you were talking about how, you know, your thing's coming out, and you're still finalized a couple of those things. That's where it gets really fun when you get, basically, the writer gets put to the decision of being on the clock. When he's on deadline, it's like, okay, now I got to decide 10 or 11 for this guy.

You know, you have two guys that are really close. And that's where it gets really interesting, just like in your office by yourself trying to finalize that stuff. But that's what I'll be doing the next couple of days and check that out on Fantasy Pros. Awesome, Thor. Thank you so much. Everyone, please go check out his work and give him a shout out on Twitter for me. Thanks for tuning in to this edition of the Fantasy Points podcast. Remember to subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite platform.

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