Fantasy Football Daily - Fantasy Football Rest of Season Rankings Update & Trade Targets to Win Your League | 2025
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Rest of season fantasy football rankings update.
I'm Theo Greminger, Fantasy Football Daily, here on the Fantasy Points Podcast Network.
Really, really fun one today.
We are updating our rankings every single week at Fantasy Points.
Our rest of senior season rankings are continually updating.
And today I brought in, really, I went to the mattress this year, guys, because it's week five.
I've got Graham Barfield.
I've got Scott Barrett.
I've got Ryan Heath.
This is the first time we've done a Fantasy Football Daily with all four of us on one show.
really, really fun one.
And we're going to start it off right from the top.
Scott Barrett, Cam Scadaboo is moving up and up and up in our rest of season rankings.
Last week, he was up to running back 22.
Now he's up to running back 19.
And I think there's some room to run here.
I would probably have him a little bit higher than this.
What are your thoughts on Scataboo moving forward and the rise that we've seen over the last two weeks with his usage?
Yeah, I mean, you guys.
just keep moving him up and up and up and up.
And maybe one day, you'll get to where I've had him the whole time.
This week against a Sane's defense, that's pretty bad.
And because of Callum Moore's really fast pace of play,
I have, I have Cam Scataboo as a top 10 option.
And I think now living in a post Malik neighbor's world,
we're going to see a very Scataboo-centric offense.
And I think it's warranted.
You look at the numbers,
Scataboo the last two weeks, easily leading the team,
in receiving first downs and, of course, I know, eight or ten, rushing first downs.
He's doing well.
It's working.
He had 25 carries last week.
He had eight targets the week before that.
So, yeah, RB-19, honestly, seems pretty low for me.
This is one of my guys.
I love him.
We got the exciting whites in New York.
We got a couple of dogs.
We got the new Baker-Mayfield.
We have the Baker-Mayfield of running backs.
It sucks to lose Malik neighbors, but this is one of the lone bright spots here.
Yeah, and 25 carries in a win is significant.
I think that we've seen now the formula for success.
Malik neighbors, obviously a massive loss to New York,
but there's some fantasy upside with Dart and certainly with Scatibu.
Graham, let's talk about another rookie that's moved way, way up our rankings.
from the time you started doing this in week one up until now heading into week five.
We record a start sit show every week right here on Fantasy Football Daily and also on the Fantasy Points YouTube.
And Graham, we've talked about Quinn Sean Jenkins now for multiple weeks.
The market is starting to adjust to him.
The volume is incredible.
We actually saw him have four catches last week as well.
A little bit more past catching upside than maybe we baked in with him in the preseason.
Judkins is up to running back 18 in our rankings.
If you had to make a guess, is he going to continue to climb up throughout the year?
Or does running back 18 sound about right to you?
I think everything after like RB15 is like really close.
I've got Giovante Williams, Judkins and Scataboo, like right next to each other.
The way we do it is we have value over replacement.
So basically it's like you take running backs, receivers, and tight ends, lump them all together.
And this kind of gives you the trade values that we have for our ball.
knowledge AI. So it's like it's really close between Judkins, Javonte, and Scatabu. My one pushback with
Scatabu is like Tyrone Tracy will be back. This offense is going to take a huge step back with
Malik neighbors. You look at the last two weeks. Scatabu by XFP is at 20.3. Judkins is at 19.6.
And like you mentioned, man, like we've just been hammering Judkins for a lot of different reasons.
He looks awesome. He's getting just a massive workload. He's gotten 85% of the Browns carries over the last
two weeks that leads all running backs by a massive margin. The only thing, the only ding
against him, and this is like what Scataboo and even Javon say Williams has on their corner a little
bit better is just the passing down work. Both are playing significantly more. But, you know,
there's room for improvement there. I mean, Jerome Ford is like their pass protection third down
guy, but I could see Judkins as the season goes on, kind of getting more and more of that work.
The one thing that Jvante has in his corner man is like Dak is playing out of his mind. Like
he's going to continue to have these goal line chances. Miles Sanders just tweaked his ankle.
It's really close between all three of these guys, but I think Judkins is just overall the better
talent than Scataboo, and they're both on terrible offenses like, but Giants and Browns are both pretty
bad. So, Graham, just to kind of put it put like a little litmus test for you when it comes to
Judkins, is there an argument to be made for trading a back that you might have a
little bit ahead of him for Judkins on the chance that there's some unknown upside in the
profile. I'll give you a couple of players. Lightning round here. Would you rather have Breast Hall for
the rest of the season or Quinshon Judkins? Breast, but it's super close. Yeah. Yeah, it's Breece,
Ken Walker, Judkins, Javante, Scout would be like all of those guys are kind of right in the same
pocket. How about Kyron Williams? Yeah, I'd still rather have Kyron. That Rams' offense is still so good. I know
quorum is mixing in more.
Well, there you go. There you go. Yeah, I might, I might lean Judkins over a couple of those guys.
I know it's very close in our rankings and he's behind him. But I talked about this with Scott
on School of Scott last week that I think we're going to see some situations where the number
of touches for Judkins could go through the roof. Anytime it's like a close game environment,
and they have the defense where a couple of these games, maybe we're projecting as Brown's losses,
are going to turn into games like we saw against Green Bay. So I think I'm a little bit
higher on Judkins than we are as a site right now, really, really into him.
One running back who has been, Judkins is probably the biggest riser at the running back position
from when we started this in week one.
But the biggest faller, and this is a painful one, because Ryan, this was a player you were so
high on last year.
Graham, you were so high on him in the preseason.
Scott, it seemed like we talked about this player every week on School of Scott last week.
He was the fantasy points data usage God King in the second half of the year.
It's Chase Brown.
Chase Brown is all the way down to running back 30 in our rest of season rankings.
And anybody who had them in their lineup on Monday Night Football Against Denver might say that we are too high on him as a site at RB30.
Ryan, just how bad is the situation?
What's your level of enthusiasm for Brown and for Bengals players in general?
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
it can't really get much worse than this.
So Brown still getting every single relevant running back touch for the Bengals,
kind of like we expected in the offseason.
But unfortunately, he is not like a buy low.
He is not like a positive regression candidate or anything like that.
And the reason for that is XFP as a concept, expected fantasy points, relies on your offense
to actually move the ball down the field.
That is not something the Bengals have shown to be capable of.
in the post Joe Burrow version of this offense.
Additionally, they can't run block to save their lives.
Brown is it just 0.35 yards before contact per attempt this season
that is by far the lowest among all qualifying running backs.
Yeah, there is just little to no path for fantasy production for Brown at this point,
despite us nailing the workload and being right at least on that piece.
So, yeah, he just kind of has no upside short of the Bengals making a trade.
for Kurt Cousins or another quarterback around the league.
I'm not even sure how into him we would be at that point, though,
just given the state of this offensive line.
So, yeah, unfortunately, Brown, not even an RB2.
Hopefully you sold a week or two ago.
Yeah, it's pretty rough.
Yeah, and Ryan, let's put this to the test
because a lot of managers out there are saying,
okay, you've moved him down, but who would you trade him for?
Ryan, would you rather have Woody Marks or Chase Brown?
Oh, man. Yeah, that's close.
Give me Woody, though, at this point.
Like, not that into either offense, but at least the Texans have, like, some semblance of,
I can't even say they have a semblance of offensive line play,
but at least they're not going to be these massive underdogs every single week.
Like, there's some path to scoring into red zone touches for marks,
and there just isn't for Brown.
How about R.J. Harvey or this is easy. I know which way you're going to go.
RJ Harvey or Chase Brown? Yeah, pretty easily RJ Harvey. I mean, he's getting this high value
usage in week four, like leading the backfield in routes, targets, getting the goal line look,
almost scored on another receiving touchdown where Bo Nix placed it a little bit too high above
his head. Like, I'm much more into Harvey than I'm into Brown at this point. I'll pitch this one
to you, Scott, just because I think we're all really, really down on Brown. But from a game theory
perspective, let's say I have Chase Brown, but I have a locked in like Belkow type RB1, and maybe
I have another two players that I'm comfortable starting. Maybe I drafted a Camp Scadaboo. He's in my
RB2. And maybe I have another Travis ETN type that's in my RB3. Is there an argument to be made
to trade Chase Brown a sort of really low level RB1, but a surefire starter on his team?
for a contingent upside backup with a ton of upside to his profile,
like a basal tootin or even like a Zach Charbonnet,
who if Walker missed time would obviously have a huge bump up in production.
Are you at that point with Brown, Scott?
Yeah, from a game theory standpoint, I think that makes sense.
If you have a stacked running back room, yeah, you want to be chasing for upside.
And like, even if you didn't, like, this is something I've always written about,
talked about is what is the value to a low-end RB2?
too, really not much.
These aren't the true difference makers in fantasy.
So this, you know, Chase Brown below Travis Etienne, I think, Tony Pollard, you know,
remandre types.
They just don't move the needle barring an injury.
And yeah, why not swing for the fences?
Yeah, I think I'm there.
Chase Brown is like sort of get them off the roster type asset.
And in Dynasty, I think you really really need to get them off your roster as well.
could be a one-year wonder at the running back position.
Let's take a quick break.
When we come back, Ryan is going to tell us about just how high up James Cook is in our rankings
and does he have room to run for even more.
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Ryan, let's talk about it because James Cook was a player that a lot of us like to poke holes
in in the preseason throughout the summer.
We talk about things like Snapchat.
We talk about things like he's missing some time at OTAs, missing time at training camp.
There's holdout fears.
And none of it mattered.
James Cook is back to doing what he did last year and then some.
James Cook is absolutely cooking.
This could be his third straight year with running back one production.
This year it feels really different.
He's challenging for the RB1 overall.
Probably won't get there, but he's an early season challenger for it.
Up to RB7 in our rankings.
Do you think this is high enough?
Yeah, I think that's about right.
Here's the thing with Cook and the thing that is driving me especially insane and probably all of us at fantasy points is if we had known that Cook in this point in his career was just going to become an every down bell cow.
I think we would have been very, very high on him.
But it is just very weird to see a player even as hyper efficient as he's been, even with the contract extension, it's just odd to me that the bills decided.
that now was the time to give James Cook a career high in backfield carry share in week four.
He's been over 80% in three of his four games this year.
His expected fantasy points are up by 40%.
So his volume makes sense that his fantasy points per game are also up by 37% over last year
if they're going to just give him more work.
So yeah, I think it's real.
I think he's easily a top seven or eight running back.
He's always been a very efficient, very explosive runner.
really fun player to watch.
Yeah, it's just kind of down to the whims of this coaching staff.
I will say that after the week four game,
Joe Brady was kind of musing about,
oh,
maybe we need to save James Cook for the playoffs
and get Ray Davis a little more involved.
I don't really buy that until there's actual evidence of it,
especially if Cook is just going to keep ripping off all these big plays,
keep being amazing.
I don't think they're actually going to reduce his workload,
but I don't know. I'm throwing my hands up a little bit that I just can't predict this coaching staff.
But yeah, regardless, even with that, like slight concern cook easily top seven, top eight running back.
The usage stats support it. He is running hot, but he's really good and he should be running hot.
Yeah, and I think running back seven actually makes a lot of sense because when you look at the names ahead of him,
they're all just so locked in. Graham, I'll throw one at you, which I think is an interesting conversation.
Sequin, Barclay or James Cook.
Yeah, I'll be honest.
I stared at moving Cook up to RB4.
I think McCaffrey, J.T. Bejohn, very clearly, one, two, three.
And then, yeah, from four through seven, Cook is very clearly ahead of Derek Henry,
especially with Lamar Jackson, likely to miss a few weeks.
I think it's really tight between Barkley Gibbs, A. Chan, and Cook.
I think the one you could really sell me on,
and I might actually make this move is flipping A Chan and Cook.
It's just that offense is so much better.
Miami could be absolutely terrible.
especially without Tyree Kill for the back half of the season.
I think that's the one, but Barclay's role has just been really good.
He's just ran really cold.
Like his route chair is up this season, target chair is up this season.
By XFP, he's been, you know, RB5, RB6.
I'm betting that the big plays come back because this Eagles offense is still so
slow, so so run heavy.
Barkley will be just fine.
I think he's actually a decent by low right now, if that's possible.
But yeah, Cook, I just keep moving them up.
I mean, it's really hard not to.
Yeah, I mean, Barclay is to buy low, just in the sense that I'm asking you if you would take James Cook or Barclay, and I'm sort of there.
So, like, if I'm there, there, there's a lot of people there.
The one pushback I would have on Achan is Achan right now is projected to finish with over 100 targets.
And you have to think with Hill out of there, they're going to have to self-scout different ways to get A-chan the ball even more.
I think that that 100, that 100 targets could end up being a little bit low.
we could see him at somewhere at 110 targets.
He's really the only challenger for Christian McCaffrey
leading the all running backs in targets.
McCaffrey will probably still get there.
And Achan has not had a game yet this season
with fewer than 16 PPR points.
So, or excuse me, Devon Achan hasn't.
So I'd probably still take Achan over Cook,
but I agree it's close.
All those guys pretty close.
I think if you have a running back on your roster,
the actionable take here is if you have a running back
on your redraft team that Graham didn't mention,
as a contender for the top seven.
I think there's a significant drop off between seven and eight.
You mentioned sort of the Derek Henry struggles.
Now we have Lamar Jackson with the hamstring injury potentially.
Henry's fumbling the ball a little bit, Justice Hill mixing it a little bit.
There's a drop off from seven to eight.
And anybody below there, if you can get James Cook in a deal for that,
I think it's going to benefit your team.
Scott, we talked about a player who you were really high on in the preseason
at the running back position that's a major hit, a hit.
A big tip tip of the cap from a lot of fantasy managers who covered your content in the summer, Scott,
who have Cam Scataboo on their team.
Another player who you were very high on, we have argued about for like two years,
but I've capitulated on this one.
Jake Ferguson is a thing.
You ran pure on the recommendation.
And now everything's sort of coming his way in terms of usage.
He's up to tight end seven in our rankings.
Is that about where you have them or are you even higher on him?
Yeah, that's too low.
You should be, you know, at least tight end four, I think.
Personally, he's the current overall tight end one averaging 15.6 fantasy points per game.
That's top 12 among wide receivers.
That's more than Justin Jefferson.
He ranks behind only Puka Nakua in catches.
This CD Lamb is out.
This offense looks like the new 2024 Cincinnati Bengals where the defense is awful,
but you have this hyper-accurate quarterback.
You were on that.
Good call, Theo.
To me, he's just Dallas's Trey McBride.
So I don't think this is an overreaction at all.
I think, you know, we kind of should have seen this coming.
The nonstop hype in the offseason, the new contract.
We know DAC loves tight ends.
And, you know, George Pickens is great, but he's not a complete receiver in my mind.
He's not going to be a target hog.
That's Jake Ferguson.
Yeah, Ferguson to me is in such a good spot.
We've talked about how he's like this cheat code pick you could have made in
tight end premium.
Even in regular PPR leagues, there's a lot to really like about that one.
Ryan, just quickly sort of picking your brain on Ferguson.
I'll give you sort of a head-to-head option here.
Would you rather have Jake Ferguson or Tucker Kraft on your redraft team right now?
Oh, man.
give me Jake Ferguson
like as amazing of a player
as Tucker Craft is and looks to be
like just this whole Dallas Cowboys situation
has just set up so much better for Ferguson
where they are constantly going to be chasing points
that's not at all how the Packers want to play
we're still seeing like this really obnoxious
kind of committee approach to the Packers receivers
Josh Jacobs is leading them in Target share
over the last two games like yeah so just give me
Ferguson. And Graham, I'll kick it to you for this one. Sam Leporta or Jake Ferguson, a trade that
you probably would have laughed off in, if you drafted like right after August 15th, and I sent
you that trade offer, you'd probably say something not so nice to me. Are you thinking about it if I
send it to you right now? Yeah, I would. And I think I actually will move up Ferguson to tight in five.
I can't get him ahead of Kittle. I still think Kittle has a chance to just like have a monster back
half of the season, provided obviously the hamstring is right. But yeah, Scott, your point on
Ferguson is just right.
I think this offense is,
I think they're going to be, you know,
their defense is going to be getting up 35 points a game.
I mean, Lions, Packers have significant, you know,
target share concerns, obviously, with their tight ends,
with Amon Ra being the clear wide receiver one.
And then like Ryan said with the Packers,
they just love spreading it out.
In our rest of season rankings,
our top four quarterbacks are probably unsurprising to many.
Josh Allen, Jalen, Jalen, Jalen, Jalen, Jail,
Lamar Jackson. But our fifth ranked quarterback is easily the biggest riser at the position from
where we had guys ranked during the summertime. Justin Herbert is up to QB5 for the rest of the season.
Scott, you've talked about Herbert sort of extensively over the last few weeks in your everything
report. Where are you out on him rest of season? Are you sort of in line with our overall ranking
for him as the QB5? Is this about as high up as he?
he can run or would you have them slightly lower?
Yeah.
So I probably would have had him QB5 last week the week before, but I'm lower on him now.
The team lost for Sean Slater out for the year.
Joe Alt was just carted off at the high ankle sprain.
Mackay Beckton's in the concussion protocol.
And my guy is in hell.
The most pressures of any quarterback over the last two weeks by an absolute landslide,
just zero time in the pocket.
I know the P-Roe is awesome.
I know, you know, this receiving core looks really strong now.
But that's not great.
And so, you know, you have these hyper-mobile quarterbacks.
You have the true prince that was promised in Drake May.
I think, I think QB-5 is just a touch rich.
So Drake May comes in at QB-9 and our rest of season rankings.
Damn, what are you doing in me?
Are you kidding?
Personal insult.
He's QB-4 right now by fantasy.
He's bawling out.
he's not even running.
Yeah, and he's not going to continue to run.
Would you rather have, I mean, it's close.
Oh, he's absolutely going to run.
He's going to run all over the bills this week, biggest run funnel in the game.
The running backs are not getting it done.
Bottom two in success rate, bottom two in EPA per run.
He has one design carry all year.
I know.
And so he's QB4 with one design carry all year.
Jackson Dart, more design carries.
So just wait.
We're going to fight.
We're going to fight over this one.
Okay.
So let us.
know in the YouTube comments. Graham is team Justin Herbert, Scott, is team Drake May. I'll give you a quick one,
Scott. We saw last week Patrick Mahomes in the first game with Xavier Worthy back. The Mahomes had four
passing touchdowns. They're starting to play Bristard Smith a little bit more. Worthy looked good.
We get back Rashi Rice soon. Sort of the arrow is pointing up on Kansas City being very pass happy.
And I think the trajectory for Mahomes is pointing upwards. Right now, we have.
have Herbert ahead of Mahomes in the rest of season rankings, would you make that trade?
Because I think that trade is out there for some fantasy managers to pivot off of Herbert,
get themselves Mahomes.
Would you be there or would you be looking to pivot down to, like you said, more of
the mobile type Drake May.
Mahomes is running though this year.
Yeah, yeah, I'd rather have Mahomes for sure.
Those first two games with a sense of urgency, you know, they lost those games.
He had over 55 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown.
these last two games a little bit easier,
but threw all over the Ravens,
270 yards, four touchdowns,
without Rishi Rice, who is a massive league winner, by the way,
but so integral, so crucial to this offense.
You know, instead they're, you know,
targeting the heck out of this 150-pound guy,
who, you know, doesn't even have a shoulder.
So, yeah, certainly looking up for the Chiefs offense,
I think the big reason why is this defense has regressed,
and he's the best quarterback in football.
So, yeah, I'd rather have my homes personally.
Yeah, and just a couple other notable risers in our quarterback rankings,
then we'll pivot over to wide receiver.
Daniel Jones is up to QB 14 in the rest of the season rankings.
Sam Darnold is up to QB20.
Jackson Dard is up to QB19.
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check those out. They're continually updating. It's just an awesome feature we have. If you're looking to nail your fantasy football trades, it's sort of an invaluable tool for you. Definitely check that one out. Let's take one more quick break. When we come back, we're talking about wide receivers, a couple of riser and faller on the exact same team. We're going to start out with Ladd-McConkie with Ryan Heath right after this. All right, welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily. We are cooking, guys, rest of season rankings update. And Ryan, we got to talk about your boy.
Let's talk about Ladd McConkey.
What is going on there with Ladd McConkey?
Not the start that we signed up for.
I remember talking to Scott week one when I'm out in Vegas and Ladd McConkey had a game where he had like 13 point something points, nearly scored a touchdown.
And Quentin Johnson played really well.
Keenan Allen played really well.
A lot of Ladd-McConkey managers were tilting and they were upset about Ladd only scoring 13 point something points.
That is the season high.
in scoring. So that was actually the season high. It was a wide receiver 24 finish in week one
was the highest weekly finish for Ladd. What's going on here? Do you see this situation improving?
How enthusiastic are you about Ladd-McConkie moving forward? Yeah, what's going on is just that
the target competition is much more intense than anybody thought. I mean, yes, Keenan Allen has made an impact,
but really the biggest story to me here is Quentin Johnston.
Like leading the Chargers and Target Chair through the first month of the season,
he's at 24%.
Keenan down at 23%, Ladd down at 18%.
QJ just being a legitimate winner on the outside is kind of the problem here.
So it's not at all that Ladd-McConkie isn't as good as we thought he was.
He's still top 10 an average separation score.
He looks amazing in all of these.
like agnostic wide receiver metrics around the industry.
Nobody is arguing that Ladd is worse than we thought.
It's just that QJ has been so absurdly effective.
He was roasting Pat Serkan a week ago.
Like this is real to me.
Keenan Allen is Justin Herbert's BFF.
He's the one that he's looking to in the end zone.
QJ getting the biggest target share.
Like Ladd, regardless of how much the Chargers throw,
is probably not going to be like a high end, even a high end wide receiver two in fantasy this
year with this current setup. So yeah, we have him down at wide receiver 20 in our rest of
season rankings. I might even argue to push Xavier Worthy up ahead of him. But yeah, just like low end
wide receiver two is about what I expect. And honestly, even that is probably being a little
bit charitable and kind of hedging toward us knowing lad is really good and could
flip these guys. But yeah, so far, a decent sample of a month, he is just not as involved in this
offense. And it's really sad and it's really unfortunate. I push Jaylen Waddle ahead of McConkey.
I think that's just right. You said worthy, though. I stared at that one for quite some time this
morning. And the only thing that I kept thinking about is Rishie Rice and just how many freaking targets
this dude's going to earn when he comes back in a couple weeks. I got Rishie Rice at wide receiver 11.
I could honestly argue for him that like wide receiver nine right now, even higher.
I think that's the one thing with worthy over lab.
Like he did look awesome last week though, but I was curious.
I wanted to get your opinion on the worthy over lab take.
Would you have worthy or waddle?
Worthy.
I would rather have worthy.
Yeah.
Those three are all close for me.
But yeah, for worthy with me, this Chief's offense, I think, is now one that we actually
want to buy into.
just because we're seeing Pat Mahomes actually throw down field.
He's one of only, I believe, five QBs this year to average more than four deep attempts per game.
Worthy, I still don't think he's like the most amazing deep ball tracker or any of like the real life stuff that you can nitpick.
But like the fact is over his last seven full games, he's at 8.6 targets per game, almost 21 fantasy points per game, 17 XFP per game.
averaging one end zone target per game over that span.
Like, yes, I think Rishie Rice is going to come in an alpha him,
but there are just so few actually productive passing offenses at this point in the NFL season,
which is very tilting and something that Scott and I are covering extensively in the Everything
report this week.
But you just want the pieces of these offenses that can actually put up points and are actually
going to throw down field and try to create explosive play.
as it becomes more and more of a rarity with these new kickoff rules,
with all the NFL meta shifts and the shorter fields.
Like having a guy on the Chiefs just is valuable to me more so than I would have said it was preseason.
So yeah, even once Rice returns, I think worthy can be a wide receiver too.
And that's how I want to value him.
So if you want to hear Scott Barrett's take on the Chiefs offense moving forward,
with Rice and Worthy and can they coexist.
Make sure you listen to School of Scott.
We're going to cover that extensively this week.
I'll give you one more.
So we talked about Jalen Waddle versus Ladd-McConkie.
I'll just throw a rapid fire here, Ryan,
sort of see a litmus test for your Ladd-McConkey distaste at this point.
Would you rather have D.K. Metcalfe or Ladd?
Oh, give me lad.
That one's easy.
Would you rather have Brian Thomas Jr., who has his own struggle?
or lad.
Man.
Yeah, give me lad
just because the quarterback
looks way better.
That's really what it comes down to.
Okay, kick it to Scott here because Scott,
we're going to talk about Quentin Johnson here.
I was actually a little bit slightly surprised
that we have Ladd still ahead of QJ.
QJ's out targeting him by 10 total targets of the year.
QJ has two games with more than 20 points scored,
and he hasn't scored fewer than 14.
point nine points in any week this year. So he's 15 points or better effectively in every single
game this season. He's outscored Ladd McConkey in every single game this year. And your three
breakouts are still street legal in America in 2025. Quentin Johnson to me feels like Nico Collins
23. Is that too hype for you, Scott? That's a great one. I've also heard Josh Allen of
wide receivers that trajectory where he was awful as a rookie awful as a sophomore and then just
randomly amazing and no one really saw it coming. I think you absolutely have to treat this as real.
I think he's a mid-range wide receiver one this week. I think he's a low-end wide receiver
one moving forward. I don't want to believe this is real, but I think you have to at this point.
Like you said, outproduced lad every single week thus far, 70 receiving yards in every
single game, including a week three game against Patrick Sertain's shadow coverage.
Sartain just held Jemar Chase to 23 receiving yards.
Certain, I'm sorry, Quentin Johnson, meanwhile, had the most Patrick Certain has given up in
over two years.
These were back-to-back, perfect matchups for Ladd McConkey, who, who crush his man coverage.
And no, it was Quentin Johnston, who was the focal point.
So, yeah, you know, I don't want to live in this reality.
I feel like the world is a darker place because of it, but it is, it is what it is.
Can I just throw some, a little bit of like positive, like, vibes for lad?
It's like, no.
No, it's illegal. It's illegal.
Just a little bit. Like, his connection with Herbert has been so bad, like, bypass a rating.
Like, he's at 60 with Herbert. Herbert is bawling.
Like, so good. His connection with Johnson is amazing. His connection with Keenan-Od's been amazing.
I do think that comes up. And Scott, you mentioned earlier in the show, like,
the Chargers offensive line is a disaster right now.
Maybe we get a few more short area targets for Ladd.
I do think it's still pretty close.
I want to go back to our priors on Lab because he was such a great target earner last year.
I still think there's plenty of room for Lab to have a much better back half of the season.
But I'm absolutely with you.
I mean, we're way over market on Quentin Johnston.
The consensus on him is still like wide receiver 40.
It's really bad.
But yeah, I could be.
sold on QJ Outscoring lab for the rest of the season for sure. Absolutely.
I traded two seconds and this is a redraft show, but I traded two seconds for Quentin
Johnston in a in a team that I've won back-to-back years in a high-stakes FFPC League.
And I still think that all marketplaces have not adjusted to QJ.
It's almost like if QJ would have sat out his entire rookie season with an injury instead
of struggling through it, the market would be head over heels over this first round draft
pick with a really, really good quarterback who's had, again,
four straight weeks of production. So I think that your actionable take is use our rankings to sort of
get a better trade out of your leaguemates who might be looking like they're selling high on QJ.
I wouldn't be shocked. And we're planning shows on like this in the future where we're going to do this
again in a couple of weeks with at least a few of us. I wouldn't be shocked if we're talking about
QJ being like wide receiver 13 at this point in like week eight. I think there's room to run here.
We're going to take a quick break. And we come back. We have a.
new wide receiver two in our in our rankings heading into week five and we're going to talk about
that player right after this grand barfield it's very difficult in fantasy football to break through
sort of these these really highly ranked sort of tiers and to get up to the wide receiver
two overall is super significant it's a player that we weren't fading necessarily in the in the preseason
but we definitely weren't pounding the table on everybody talked about guys like bt
J, Drake London, Ladd McConkey.
There was always like these buzz guys, Nico Collins.
But at the end of the day, Amon Ross St. Brown is looking like one of the best picks you could
have made at the one two turn.
We have him up to wide receiver two overall in our wide receiver rankings.
He's had three straight weeks with 20 or more points scored.
And he has six receiving touchdowns and only four games played.
Sung God is on fire right now.
He is on fire, man.
And it's a twofold thing.
James and Sam Leporto just kind of getting out of Al-Hood by Amman Ra.
And then like Ryan was saying earlier, I mean, there's just so few passing
offenses that we trust at this point.
Like Puka is clearly wide receiver one.
I have him at number one overall ahead of McCaffrey and J.T.
for this main reason.
It's just a scarcity thing.
Yeah, I mean, Jefferson, the Vikings offense is fallen by the wayside.
Jamar Chase obviously has been absolutely, you know,
basically unproductive in two games with Jake Browning so far.
there's just like an argument to be made that like Amman Ra is the clear wide receiver two just based off of scarcity.
I think the one player that I could be sold to like flip him over is JSN, but the lions are just a better
offense. He basically has the JSN role. Maybe as to a slightly, you know, worse degree, but on a, you know,
better pass offense, a little more pass heavy as well. Seahawks are slow and run heavy.
Yeah, I mean, it's, JSN is just, excuse me, Amman Ra is just like by, you know, he's had a great start
of the season, but it's also just like all these other guys around them have just kind of falling off.
And I think that what, you nailed it.
It's, but Amman Ra is producing and the other guys are either injured or have a bad situation
surrounding them.
Jefferson, of course, with Wensett quarterback, C.D. Lamb is banged up.
Malik neighbor is done for the season.
I'm with you.
Like last week, Scott and I talked about JSN and how outstanding the usage is, but we sort of saw
the downside of what a JSN week could look like against, uh, against, uh, against
Arizona last Thursday.
Whereas I'm on Ross St. Brown, in the preseason, we talked about all these different
situations for Detroit with John Morton.
We talked about Jemir Gibbs, getting increased snaps, and that's certainly happened.
He's well ahead of David Montgomery in usage.
We talked about a Jamison Williams breakout.
We talked about a Sam Laporta bounce back season.
We never really factored in the sun god.
And I think a little bit was the cleanup surgery he had in the preseason, where maybe that
sort of weighed a little bit heavily in people's minds.
It hasn't mattered.
Stungad is just so locked in.
And the one threat to Puka Nakua running away with the wide receiver one,
which I think we'd all bet on at this point,
it's sort of silly to bet against Puka,
would be Amman Ra having like a 17 touchdown catch season.
And he gets there on the strength of touchdowns.
I think that's the sort of the X factor for Amon Ra.
Ryan, let's talk about Roma Dunes.
Or excuse me, Graham, let's also talk about Roma Dunzee,
who is a huge riser,
for us as well. He is up to
wide receiver 13 in our rest of season rankings.
Bears head to a by week.
Adunze is running pure with touchdowns.
Really every metric. He's the clear top,
top choice receiver in the Chicago offense.
Yeah, I'm actually going to move up to even further
to wide receiver 12, just behind Rishie Rice. The role is just
amazing. I mean, he's just out outthing, DJ Moore.
You guys remember, I mean, this is one of my bold calls this year
is that O'Donzee outscores DJ Moore this season.
And I mean, he's just so much better at the wide receiver stuff than more.
More is just a manufactured touch player at this point.
By role, I mean, O'Donze is the wide receiver four by expected fantasy points.
By first retardants, he's at 32%.
Super, super healthy there.
That's like wide receiver 10, wide receiver 11.
You know, I still don't, I'm not totally sold on Caleb Williams guys.
Like, I don't think it's possible to be.
I mean, he's made some great throws and he's mixed it in with some really kind of boneheaded decisions.
and misthrows this season.
He's certainly playing a lot better.
I really think it's just this offensive infrastructure is so much better.
But yeah, I mean, Colston Loveland's hurt.
DJ Moore is clearly the second target, second and third read.
Luther Burden hasn't become a thing just yet.
It's just kind of all coming up for Rome right now.
Yeah, and he has the trust of Caleb Williams.
Caleb Williams has going to him in key moments.
And we've seen Adunzee deliver year two breakout.
we saw him be a top 10 draft pick.
There's so much to like about a Dunezai's profile.
Even Olamidi Zichaias has sort of been a little bit of a thorn in the side of Luther
Burden.
We do have the by week for Chicago.
So I think post-by week, we could see some usage changes.
I think we would all agree that getting Luther Burden more involved on a weekly basis would
be a benefit for Chicago.
But I think Adunze's role is sound.
I think Burden would sort of nuke Zakias and maybe hurt DJ more,
even more than he's at. Dunseh seems almost safe at this point post-by week. So I think he's an
interesting player to send a tradeoff or two. Maybe you have some leaguemates that don't believe
the breakout. Maybe they don't necessarily believe in Chicago. He's an interesting one. Sort of an
on-the-fly update for us. Breece Hall is going to move up. This is a significant injury for
Braylon Allen and MCL sprain. He's on the on the injured reserve. Scott, talk to us about what
Bruce Hall is going to look like without the threat of Braylon Allen there and Isaiah Davis backing
him up a little bit more of a like for like replacement for Hall where you have to figure
Hall all of the touches are going to move up and he had some positive coach speak from Aaron Glenn
yesterday after Monday night football yeah I'll pass on this one can you give this one to Ryan Ryan
take it all right so to me Bruce Hall after this injury is like a high
high-end RB2, and there is room for him to move up from there.
So with Hall, the biggest thing to me this year is that he looks a million times better than last
season.
He's leading the NFL currently in explosive run rate, nearly double what he was doing last
year.
And I was ready to push Hall up the rankings regardless of what happened with this Braylin
Allen injury just because of that very viscerally brutal, awful fumble at the goal line from
Allen. And I think Hall just gets all of the short yardage, all of the goal line stuff now for this
offense that, yeah, while it has struggled and they've been incredibly unsurious at different
points, just running the ball constantly down multiple scores. That ultimately is more volume for
Bruce Hall, more touches, more chances at explosives. I don't like fully trust, or not even,
I don't trust this offense at all to get into the end zone very much.
But, yeah, just from a usage perspective, Hall, over 85% of the carries after Allen went out the other night,
like this just looks like a borderline RB1, RB2 fringe type of guy on a slightly rough offense at this point.
So, yeah, I think it makes sense to have him up at RB13, RB14 with the Brailleen injury.
Would much rather have him than a guy like Ken Walker at this point just because of that difference in high value touches.
Hall is sixth at the position in Target Share this year.
I am just feeling much better about Hall than pretty much any of these kind of middling
RB2s at this point.
Yeah, and it's funny because I wanted to sit here and sort of like kick the Jets offense
and just say how bad they are.
But from an overall scoring perspective, the only game where they didn't show up was the
Buffalo game.
They had the out of nowhere 32 point outburst against Pittsburgh.
there was the weird game against Tampa Bay where they scored 27.
And then last night, it was a, or excuse me, Monday night,
it was like a last minute touchdown catch from Garrett Wilson.
But there was also an overturned touchdown catch from Garrett Wilson as well.
So the Jets offense in three out of four weeks,
despite having a ton of things bad about them,
they have not been catastrophically bad scoring.
So I think Hall's a really interesting one.
You also have to figure maybe the reception total goes up a little bit more.
I like where you're at with moving up,
Bruce Hall here.
Let's also quickly mention that people are going to say,
where do you guys have Jamar Chase?
Jamar Chase is down to wide receiver seven.
I'm seeing some people out there saying that they would trade
Jamar Chase like really, really cheap.
And I'm like, kind of slow down there, guys.
Yeah, for Jay, shout out, shout out Davis-Matic.
We love you over.
Calling the bottom.
Yeah, exactly.
Trey Benson and Jameson Williams,
I don't think we would make those deals.
Graham Barfield, I'm going to kick it to you, though.
Jameson Williams or Rashi Rice, or excuse me,
Jamar Chase or Rashi Rice.
Yeah, I'd still rather have Chase,
but I've got Rice moving up to wide receiver 10.
Chase, like you said, wide receiver 7.
I mean, I don't think I've ever had a situation like this,
and it's just the landscape of passing offense the NFL,
but, like, Rice has, like, gained so much value
the last couple weeks because we've just seen the chief's passing offense be completely non-functional
without him until they got Xavier Worthy back. They had to, you know, kind of hook and crook Tyquan
Thornton in there the first three weeks. It is close, man. I could see definitely, you know, we just
got to see, you know, Rice make sure he's fully healthy. Obviously, he should be coming back from
that knee injuries. He's had plenty of time to get right. But it's really close now. I mean,
Jake Browning is just like that that 20, whatever it was, 21 run or, not 21, 23,
run kind of just feels like a mirage, I think, at this point.
Yeah, Jake Browning tricked me.
He tricked me.
Shout out to everybody who covered the waiver our content.
I've had to take my medicine on the Jake Browning recommendation, but there was a lot of
people on Browning.
It looks absolutely awful.
It's really hard to watch Bengals games.
There are some actionable trades be made with Chase if you want to get out from
under him.
Ryan, lightning round here.
Would you rather have Jamar Chase or Drake London heading into his by week?
give me Chase here still like ultimately I'll be quick here but ultimately the bengal schedule does ease up a little bit still rough the next couple weeks but after that it's better
Jamar chase over the last two weeks has five design targets out of seven total on the team so they want to get him going it's not going to happen against good defenses but chase is still going to see volume he's still going to be like a low end wide receiver one.
Scott Barrett, Jamar Chase or Nico Collins rest of season for you?
I'd probably go with Nico.
And then Graham, I'll finish it out, are Jamar Chase around the horn.
Jamar Chase or Garrett Wilson.
Oh, Chase still easily.
I don't trust Justin Fields throwing the ball.
Well, there we go.
So everybody's, we're way higher on Jamar Chase than certainly a lot of fantasy analysts are after the disaster Monday.
We're definitely not trading them for Jamison Williams.
now we're going to reveal a player that you should be trying to trade for right now to improve your redraft rosters and make that push to the fantasy playoffs and a fantasy championship.
Scott, you get us started.
Who is your by low trade target right now?
Yeah, I think this is the easiest one in the world personally.
I saw someone reach out to, oh, Neil, who I do outside the box with was like, hey, Ryan, you know, you were right.
Good call on being low on Brock Bowers.
and I've seen like a number of other people kind of just say the same thing.
Like, you know, he was a bad pick.
He made him as the dude is hurt.
He's clearly hurt.
He's wearing this bulky knee brace.
Once that knee brace comes off, I'm expecting him to put up like low end wide receiver 1 numbers.
So glaringly obvious by low, if anyone's selling.
Love that one.
Ryan, talk about your bylaw candidate.
Yeah, my bylaw is Trey Benson just because.
everybody watched that Thursday night football game that right after they had added him off the
waiver wire or traded for him or whatever and were tilting their faces off that Amari Di Mercado
was playing the two minute drill and happened to score the touchdown because he was in on that drive.
But to me, Benson's usage was pretty awesome if you control for the fact that the Cardinals
were trailing the entire game. I mean, 73% of the backfield rush attempts. He had a 12% target share.
Like that was really good. That's what was better than I expected for
Trey Benson, five catches on five targets.
That is better than the role that James Connor had on this Cardinals offense last year when
he finished as the RB 15 with 16 fantasy points per game.
That's about where I would have Benson.
And I've seen the sentiment be much more negative on him after that game.
So I think if you can kind of sneak in, maybe unload one of these disappointing RB2 guys,
I would unload Ken Walker for Trey Benson still very easily.
any of those types I would love to kind of get off the wild ride and just get on to
Trey Benson onto some usage I actually feel good about yeah cardinals aren't going to be trailing
by multiple scores the entire season yeah and just just kick that back to Scott Scott do you agree on
the Trey Benson one because I've seen Ryan you've dug your heels in on Benson I think it's
probably right just curious where you're at on that one Scott yeah I completely agree with Ryan
Okay, cool. So there you have it. Ryan and Scott both still in on Trey Benson.
Graham, where are you at on Benson? I'm just a little lower. I am a little concerned that they do this Amari Demarcato on, you know, long down distance stuff. But yeah, I would still rather have Ashton Jainty. I just think the Belcal upside is higher. I'd rather have Brise Hall. I would probably, I think I'm going to flip Trey Benson and Kairn just because Blake Quorum's playing a lot more. But I mean, it's close.
Ram's offense is way more trustworthy.
And that's pretty much where I would be as well.
Benson over Kyron would definitely take Gentie and haul over Benson too.
Graham, give us a player you are looking to buy low on this week.
Yeah, Rashy Rice, I think, is just like maybe it's going to get harder and harder to buy
low on him, but I've been saying this for two, three weeks now on every show.
I was talking with John and Brett a couple weeks ago, just talking about this Chief's
offense and just basically saying, yeah, go by Rishi Rice.
13 career games where he's run a route on at least 60% of the Chief's past plays.
He's the wide receiver 10 and output, 16.9 ppr points per game.
The volume has been amazing.
He's been above 20% of the targets in 1113 of those games.
And like we were saying earlier, I mean, this offense is just, it's primed, right?
Like Mahomes is playing a little better this season.
Xavier Worthy is going to be just fine.
It seems like he'll be able to stretch the field.
And then Travis Kelsey, like it's over.
Like all of his metrics, you know, under the hood,
bulk stats, all of it's down.
This is just like a prime situation for Rice to come on and just be like a low-end
wide receiver one for the rest of the season.
Yeah, I love that one.
We talked about Mahomes rising up.
We talked about Worthy's impact.
I think that over the second half of the year, the Chiefs could be an offense that you
want a ton of pieces of, but it's going to be Rashi Rice as the team's offensive
focal point as soon as he's back.
For me, I'm going to make some, they're still by high from where we had him in the
summertime, but it's a buy low compared to what you would have had to pay in week three.
We've seen sort of a middling game from JSN.
And I think this is the entry point that some managers might have, might use to really
benefit their teams.
JSN, I think finishes as a top five score at the wide receiver position this year.
That 13 point performance against Arizona is a little bit of a one-off.
All of the metrics on fantasy points data are just through the roof.
JSN has a 44.3% first read rate.
His area yard share is 49.8% and a 33% target share.
It's JSN season.
I think he's going to end up having a number of smash weeks just based on this
role in the offense and based on the data we're seeing.
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