Fantasy Football Daily - Fantasy Football Target Leaders: Must-Draft Pass Catchers & League Winners for 2026 (All 32 Teams)

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:48 That's the old cheat. We joined today by Graham Barfield. Happy to have Graham back here. Graham, the last time you were in this chair, well, you've probably been in the chair, but the last time you were on the screen here, I mean, this is like where you live. But the last time you were on the screen here, we broke down the running back. So we broke down each and every backfield, who is going to be the handcuff, relevant running back threes, and some discussion about ambiguous backfields. That show is still relevant and it's going to be relevant all summer long. Make sure you go check that out if you didn't see it before. Every time I have Graham here, we're dropping absolute fire. And in season, Graham is the guy that you want to listen to when
Starting point is 00:01:32 it comes to start, sit decisions, find all of his work over at fantasy points as long with my with my own. Let's start talking about it, Graham, because people might discount this one and say, you know, it's whatever. I understand targets matter, but how much do they matter? It's really difficult to be fantasy relevant if you are not a top two target on your own team when it comes to wide receivers, which is a given, but also tight ends. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. It's like unless you have like these super pass heavy offenses, which in today's game and today's NFL meta, it's kind of going by the wayside. Yeah, unless you have like a really pass heavy offense, it's just really hard to get, you know, three players above 90, 100 targets. And
Starting point is 00:02:17 that realm. And yeah, I think, you know, like I was saying, we're continuing to kind of see this slowdownward trend in pass rates, increase of 12 and 13 personnel, which takes receivers off of the field. I think, I think it's going to be even more of the case where we, we see, you know, not necessarily target concentration, but significantly fewer teams pushing, you know, three players towards that, like 80, 90, 100 target range to make them fantasy relevant, like you said. And it's also really important, Graham, that we identify who the number one target is on each and every team because wide receiver two scoring overall was down last year. There's still going to be wide receiver twos who can help you win in fantasy, but there's going to be fewer outs if you're drafting a
Starting point is 00:03:02 player to be the number one target. They end up being the number two target. Very important for you to also understand that tight ends are not safe from this as well. Almost every one of the fantasy relevant tight ends, when you're talking about the real difference. makers. We're not we're not searching for tight end 12 on this show gram. We're searching for guys who can be like tight end five, tight end four, and certainly guys who can really challenge put up in that 15 point per game mark that would put them up in the tight end one overall conversation. Running back's a little bit different. Running back targets were also down last year overall, but you can be a number three targeted running back and still be really, really strong for
Starting point is 00:03:40 PPR leagues. But we're going to talk about a couple of running backs who look like they could be the number one or number two target as well. Those players have the ability to just be insane fantasy producers if it all goes well. You also talk about, you know, the upside where if a guy goes down with an injury. So we'll talk about a little bit of some number three targets that we think would have that contingent upside, maybe behind an older player or an injury prone player. We don't need, and shout out to Brett Whitefield, who's in the chat. Shout out to all the live viewers who are in the chat.
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Starting point is 00:04:35 You can go do that right now. It's going to take you two minutes if you don't already have one. And then write the word SFB in the YouTube comment if you're watching it live. So we'll get back to it. do it and I don't know how long are we cooking here graham who knows but we got to get started and i think there's a couple teams that are an absolute given so let's go right with the cincinnati bangles Cincinnati bangles it's as cut and dry as it ever was graham break it down yeah jimar chase t higgins chase brown those are your top three uh we were talking just up the top
Starting point is 00:05:06 of the show i mean only i mean last year there was three teams that had you know uh three players with 80 or more targets bingles were one of them chase brown was snuck in there. I mean, yeah, it's all Jamar Chase, all T. Higgins, super concentrated. Nothing's really changed. I think, you know, a lot of our analysis from last year or previous years is kind of the same. Bingles are probably going to have a pretty bad defense again this year, too, Theo. Should help them kind of playing more shootouts, especially after losing Trey Hendrickson.
Starting point is 00:05:35 So, yeah, I think the volume is just, it's really good. The bingles and the cowboys are like really the two teams, again, that I think could kind of run it back, where they have, you know, three players pushing for, you know, 80, 90, 100 targets. Yeah, and Chase Brown's target ceiling is really high in this offense. I think that, like, we saw his targets improve from 2024 to 2025. So while he's going to be the number three target, he's the number three target on an offense run by Joe Burrow that's going to have high pass volume. And I think there's some people in the chat saying, you know, the Bengals, they did improve
Starting point is 00:06:08 their defense. They made some very calculated decisions in the offseason, made some very smart trades in the off season, but the defense is still not, not one. It's not good to be, you know, it's still not fantastic. Yeah. And I'll say that the division itself also benefits from the Miles Garrett trade. Miles Garrett to Jared Verst. Jared Verst is still a really good player, but he's not a like wreck everyone in front
Starting point is 00:06:33 of him type player like Miles Garrett. Maybe he could be this year. Maybe he takes another step forward. And that trade looks even better for the Browns. But losing Miles Garrett kind of changes the trajectory of the team. So it makes two more matchups for Cincinnati that could fly over. So that's a given. Dallas.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Let's go with the Dallas Cowboys. CD Lamb's a triple crown. I mean, he's going to push for the triple crown, I think. I think, you know, DAC proved to everybody last year, you know, just how good he is. But, yeah, I mean, both Lamb, Pickens, low-end, wide receiver ones. Your boy, Pickens was awesome last year, Theo.
Starting point is 00:07:09 18 points per game versus 14 and a half for CD-Lam. Right, yeah. And I think you could make an argument that, Maybe Pickens could outscore him again, but I think Lamb, just the volume has just been so good. Clear target earner. He was clearly, you know, even though Pickens did outscore him last year, you know. Lamb did have, you know, when they were healthy, very close in terms of first three target chair, 28% for Lamb.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Pickens down at 27%. I think this offense still flows through C.D. Lamb for the most part. And, yeah, Dallas, I was just saying Dallas's defense is, it's better, but it's not going to be a whole lot better this year. Yeah, and Jake Ferguson, just to the power of Dallas's offense, Jake Ferguson had 100 targets last year, 16% target share. Jake Ferguson is a fantasy relevant number three target, I believe, because he's a tight end and because of Dak Prescott's propensity to like really, really target his tight ends, especially in the red zone. So CD and George Pickens clear as day, but also I think Jake Ferguson has the upside. Now, if there's some like doom and gloom scenario where Pickens missed his time, Ryan Flournoy, I think, is also one that we'll just keep on like speed dial Graham as a player that could go right in.
Starting point is 00:08:19 But I'm on Jamar Chase winning the Triple Crown. You're talking CD Lamb. The difference between Ciddy Lamb and George Pickens, though, right now is about two full rounds. CD's end of the first. Pickens are getting at like the 306 through 310 range right now. So I think they both could deliver at ADP. Let's go with our next team here that's pretty cut and dry. I mean, it's very cut and dry for me. Rams, Pooka Nakua, Devante Adams.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Devante Adams, again, got injured to end last season, but he still had 14 touchdown grabs. He's still very insulated. They don't deal with a Mackay Lemon in the NFL draft that could kind of make things interesting. They end up with Ty Simpson, who's not going to do a thing this season, barging an injury to Matt Stafford. And then the running backs are going to be a little bit more of a running back, not running back true running back by committee, but I think you're going to see a little more Blake Corum cutting into Cameron Williams. So a running back going crazy there. And then tight ends, they're actually fifth in the NFL in total targets to tight ends. And they were
Starting point is 00:09:20 first in touchdown passes to tight ends. But the tight end position there looks like guys that are going to cannibalize one another, Terrence Ferguson, Max Clare. And of course, Colby Parkinson was good last year. Your thoughts on this one about as cut and dry as it gets? Extremely. And they just, you know, they just lost two out well too, man. So it's going to be an extremely concentrated passing offense, the most concentrated passing offense in the NFL by far. In our projections, we have Puka pushing for like 150 targets, Adams around 120, and that we literally don't have another RAM projecting for more than 50 targets. It's all the tight ends. It's Parkinson, Higbee, Ferguson, like you mentioned. They're going to play a ton of 13 personnel
Starting point is 00:09:59 this year with three tight ends. Yeah, it's just very, very cut and dry. And we love these types offenses, man. I mean, the Rams are, you know, Sean McVeigh has always been good to us in fantasy, but especially now. I mean, it's just, this is an awesome offense to project every single week. Yeah, it's, it's a tremendous offense and it always becomes like very concentrated. You know, let me talk about like teammate target share and like the, the target tree at the top. Like, you're not going to see a scenario where Devante Adams probably drops below like 21%, But Pooka Nakua could be a 30% target share guy this year. It's going to be very concentrated between those two.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Jordan Whittington, maybe the contingent upside guy at wide receiver, but I don't know, I think it might be a little more tight end usage if Adams were to miss time this year. Your quick thoughts on that. Yeah, they would just play multiple tight ends. They've got, you know, a Ferguson can move. Higby plays in line. Parkinson plays in line. So they can kind of mix and match those guys.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And they'll send out Pooka Nacuahua. emotion through him through the B gap and stuff and do a bunch of weird crazy stuff. Yeah, once again, just love the Rams this year. Rams were a flag plant team for last year and I feel pretty good about them again this year. Yeah, Pooka Nakua was at 28.8% target share last year, 163 targets. Devante Adams at 23.6%. And people are probably like, Theo, where are you finding these amazing statistics so quickly on the fly? Fantasy Points Data Suite.
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Starting point is 00:11:49 And that is the Tennessee Titans. This is Carnell Tate as the number one target. Wondell Robinson as the number two target. I guess there's a scenario where Wondell could still lead them targets. The guy did have 140 in back-to-back years, but I think it's going to probably end up being something like Carnell Tate with 125 to 130, and then Wondell probably drops down to that 115 to 120 range. So it'll be pretty close, but the quality of targets on the average depth of target will trend towards Carnell Tate, end zone targets, high value targets will go to Carnal Tate.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I think Tate is a really strong pick right now, Graham. Agreed. Wondale's always been a target earner. And I think maybe probably an underrated target earner, but this is Carnell Tate, like, alpha season right out of the gates, in my opinion. You look back since 2010, I pulled this up. There have been 19 receivers drafted in the top 10 overall. And of those, excuse me, 22 receivers drafted in the top 10 overall since 2010. 19 of those receivers played 10 or more games, Theo. And of those 19, they averaged like 112 targets per, you know, in their rookie season. And half of those players led their team in targets.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And I think Cardinal Tate just perfectly fits that bill. Yeah, this could be another really concentrated team, too. Like, you know, bringing in Wondale, bringing in Tate. You know, I know we liked Elyc Iommanor a little bit last year, but I didn't really earn the targets. You know, Chimier D.K., same thing. So this is a really, really great opportunity for Tate to clearly be the alpha, Wondale, to clearly be the number two. and then there's just kind of like, you know, huge golf between the third target earner and these top two guys.
Starting point is 00:13:34 But I'm with you. I've been a little surprised that, yeah, I mean, Carnal Tate, playing with Cam Ward, Titans might stank. I get it. It's not the best landing spot. But it seems like this year, Theo, we've seen a little less excitement from the rookie wide receivers. And we'll talk about Mike Leman here in a little bit too.
Starting point is 00:13:49 But Tate kind of fits that bill to me too. I think this is a lot of the, like, the hive mind who hated the 2026 rookie class. Sure. Like that's out there. window, though, guys. Like Jordan Tyson goes in the top 10, Cardinal Tate goes in the top five, and Mackay Lemon is now a full-time role in Philly. So like, I get it. You had a million analysts, not Brett Whitefield and I, but a million analysts telling you that this is the worst class ever. Brett and I were a little bit more optimistic on this. And then it landed really,
Starting point is 00:14:19 really well on day one, not to mention Judarian Price, Casey Concepcion, all with pretty good pathways this season. So I think that's where it stems from. Quick question in the chat we saw from Paul Tomasi, I think I'm saying it right, said, do you think the Kyron and Blake Corum split every other drive like last year, or does one emerge? I'm on the Blake Corum cuts more into Kyron Williams. I like drafting Blake Corum this year. I think Blake Corum lacks the pass catching upside,
Starting point is 00:14:46 but I think he's a threat for double-digit touchdowns this year and a thousand rushing yards, Graham. Is that too spicy? I think he'll cut in a little more, but I mean, it's the same thing. Like, Sean McVeigh loves Kyron Williams like a sign. Like I think Blake Quorum could rip off like a couple long touchdowns in weeks one, two, and three. And Kyrin would still play like 55, 60 percent of the snaps. Paul, go back and listen to Theo and I's backfield breakdown.
Starting point is 00:15:09 That came out like two weeks ago. Yeah. We've turned out a lot of shows in between. You're going to have to scroll back a little bit. But just look for Graham Barfield on the thumbnail. That was a really good one. Let's keep this one going. Another team that seems really cut and dry at this point is the Philadelphia Eagles.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Devonta Smith now steps in. as the number one target. And Mackay Lemon should be the number two target. Dallas Goddard last year, a double-digit touchdown catches. And I understand, like, I know Scott Barrett's very bullish on him at his Titan 15 price tag. I've been clicking that button as well. But Goddard has never been a massive target earner.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I think Lemon is in the driver's seat here. Your thoughts on how this pecking order goes. Yeah, I think so too. Devonti Smith is going to have to prove that he's an alpha. You look at the four games that AJ Browns missed over the last two years. Smith has averaged like eight targets per game. Target chair has gone up, volume's gone up. He's basically been like a low end wide receiver one based on volume. I'm not totally sure that we should like just expect him to be an alpha though. Like Mackay Lemon led USC in
Starting point is 00:16:15 receiving in 2024 over Jacoby Lane and Zachariah Branch when he was there before he transferred. And he led them in receiving easily last year over Jacoby Lane, who was a third round pick. I think we're really underrating Mackay Lemon's potential volume and target earning potential. Like, yeah, okay, you know, some of his production was a little fraudulent playing in the slot full time. But we've done this in the past, and I think it can be a little bit of a trap, especially for some analysts like, you know, myself, I made a mistake with Justin Jefferson all those years ago thinking, oh, man, like, yeah, he played with Joe Burrow. He looked, you know, the route running is pretty crisp, but like he played in the slot full time. And it's kind of hard. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I just don't know if we should necessarily ding a player for playing in the slot full time just because that's the way he was, you know, deployed in college. And then there's the secondary factor of like the Eagles clearly think he can play outside, Theo. Yeah. Who's like he's going to play in 12 person out. Like it's, Dantavian Wicks is kind of a similar player where he's mainly one in the slot. Yeah, he's got the shiftiness and separation ability to play outside. But yeah, I think Bukai Lemon is clearly the number two.
Starting point is 00:17:21 and I think he's got some underrated upside to actually push Devanta Smith for like 110 targets in this offense. Real quick to put it a cap on the Eagles for me. I also like Dallas Goddard. I can't understand why we're drafting like part-time tight ends like Isaiah likely and Dalton Kincaid ahead of him. Whoa, whoa, whoa, Isaiah likely got a part-time tight end.
Starting point is 00:17:41 We're going to get to New York in a little bit. Okay, all right. We'll save the likely discussion. But Goddard, bro, Goddard's like a 90% route share player, snap share player. He's a great blocker. Yeah, he's never been a great target earner, but the last two seasons, he's tied in seven by first three target chair. Yeah, you're not, you know, we talked, we started the show saying, like, we're not looking for the tight end 12 this year.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Goddard kind of fits this bill or it's like, what's his upside really? You know, is it tight in eight, tied in nine, probably. But yeah, it's a value pick and chasing some of this volume. I think Goddard makes some sense. Yeah, agreed. But the thing with Goddard that's nice is, He's like a get you through guy, but he's capable of putting up a two touchdown performance when it matters a lot. We've seen that from him, like these kind of spike weeks from him.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And Jalen Hertz as the familiarity. But yeah, Graham, you had like a real heel turn there where you were like my hero for finally being another Mackay Lemonbacker after me having to battle it out with Brett Whitefield and Scott Barrett on many an occasion. And then you just kick me when I turn my back to you, kick me in the head with the Isaiah likely shade. We'll get to New York in a minute. But Philly, I think, is pretty cut and dry. Another team that I think is cut and dry is the Denver Broncos. They give up a fortune to get Jalen Waddle.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Jalen Waddle should be the number one target in the passing game. I think he profiles that way. And Cortland Sutton, who's getting a little bit older, will settle in as the number two target. I think it's interesting for us to, if you have, and again, tight end, this is kind of a complete wash these days. It's a number of guys battling it out. including Evan Engram, who's probably leading the charge, Justin Jolie, and a few others that are being
Starting point is 00:19:23 mentioned as camp standouts at OTAs. Then you've got like the Pat Bryant, Troy Franklin group is interesting because of Cortland Sutton's age. Do you disagree with anything what I said about Waddle and Sutton? And do you have a number three target that interests you on Denver? No, I don't have a number three target that interests me for sure. Evan Ingram could potentially get cut. I was talking, I was talking to Chris Wecht about this a couple days ago, actually. But then, yeah, I mean, Marvin Mems and Franklin probably are the two. Maybe Pat Bryant. At times last year, Theo, I mean, Cortland Sutton was getting out targeted by Troy Franklin.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Then at the end of the year, Pat Bryant was kind of emerging as like a really good number two receiver, 18, 19 percent target share. So I'm with you. I think Waddle is like the clear team lead. And I've seen some pushback on this on Twitter. Smart people saying, oh, like Cortland Sutton, like he should clearly be in consideration to, you know, leave this team in targets, but I'm kind of with you. Like he's just been like this vertical threat, touchdown, you know, in zone threat. Waddle is clearly more of a separator, you know, over the middle, gives the Broncos some, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:29 dynamism, you know, over the middle yards after the catch, uh, that Cortland Sutton just, just doesn't have. And, you know, Sean Payton runs this West Coast offense. I mean, it's like perfect fit for Jalen Waddle to kind of get these short area targets, the yak, you know, the yak catch targets. And, yeah, Sutton can kind of just be the ex receiver, you know, on the outside. I think Franklin clearly leads this team, or excuse me, not Franklin, Waddle clearly loses this team in targets. And I think Sutton kind of might take more of a backseat this season. I think he'll be closer to like 19, 20% target share than the, you know, 22, 23, 24% he's been the last couple years. Yeah, Cortland Sutton last year had had a 19.6% target
Starting point is 00:21:10 share. And then Troy Franklin had a 16.6% target share. What's interesting is Troy Franklin is sort of being left for dead on underdog. You're seeing Troy Franklin in like the 18th round a lot. Pat Bryant had some meaningful performances, but, and especially over the second half of the year, but Troy Franklin, it's interesting to me how the community is sort of like just leaving him there, preferring Frank Bryant, and then Waddle, of course, steamed up
Starting point is 00:21:36 and Sutton really hasn't been steamed down. So yeah, K013 in the chat says Franklin catches more passes than Waddle in 2026. Wow. I don't agree with that one. But I do think Troy Franklin is going to deliver in terms of like, you know, hit rate if you're drafting in best ball right now, is Franklin or Bryant the beneficiary if like Waddle or Sutton goes down?
Starting point is 00:21:58 They can both both play inside. They both have that kind of positional versatility. I'd go Franklin just because he's got that third year, Sean Payton, you know, typically is playing the veteran guys over kind of his second year and rookie year guys. We definitely know it won't be our guy, Marvin. Mims, sadly. No, it won't. It won't. Marvin Mims is going to do something like exciting in like at least one or two weeks, but it won't be usable for fantasy. Let's go with the Minnesota Vikings, another team that I think is pretty easy to figure out right now. Justin Jefferson as the number one target,
Starting point is 00:22:34 of course, and Jordan Addison probably also bouncing back at least to some extent this year as the number two target. Jefferson, you're able to get, you know, in the beginning of round two, sometimes late one. Addison is sort of is chilling in like the wide receiver 40s range. And I think he's pretty decent there. Anything to push back on on this Minnesota one or should we move, move off? No, I think that that's it. I think we can move on. I don't think Hawkinson, man, sadly, I just don't think he's a target runner anymore. Lost a multiple steps last year to my eye. Yeah, for me as well. And I think that Joanne Jennings has a little bit contingent upside, but he's probably a little bit more, he's a little bit more annoying for Hawkinson than he would be for the Addison role or the Jefferson role.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Quick question in the chat. What value does RJ Harvey carry in Denver? We didn't talk about him. He's a little bit interesting to me because do they trust him more to be utilized as like in like a full-time pass catching role where we see it every single week, even though he's conceding carries and maybe a part-time role as a runner? But can he get there just by being a consistent receiver in this offense? and sort of in a, dare I say it, Darren Sprouls-esque role in the Sean Payton offense.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I think he'll be their third target this year. It might not be by a big margin. It might be 55, 60 targets for him. But yeah, you look at the profile, certainly profiles as their, you know, their pass down back. I think if J.K. Dobbins were to get hurt, it'd basically be like, you know, Coleman and Harvey splitting the early down stuff, but Harvey, you know, primarily playing on the passing downs.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Okay, let's go with the Kansas City. Chiefs. This one's pretty cut and dry. We realize there are off the field things going on with Rashi Rice right now we don't need to dive into. He's also recovering from an injury, but Rashi Rice is going to lead them in targets, at least targets per game every week he's there. Number two target to me is right now Travis Kelsey. I mean, I think this team's easy to figure out. It's going to be a whole lot of Kenneth Walker. I think Kenneth Walker will have the most touches in a season by Kansas City Chiefs running back since, do we go back to Jamal Charles? Do we go back to Jamal Charles and make Brett Whitefield all angry?
Starting point is 00:24:46 Or do we have to scale it back a little bit? I think Jamal Charles. So are we into Rashi Rice and Travis Kelsey as the top two target earners? Do you want to keep a candle burning for Xavier Worthy if he's healthy? I actually, I do actually want to keep a candle for worthy. It's only because, I mean, he got hurt on what, like the fifth play of the game. And I know it's, it was a kind of a, not hilarious for him, but the way he got hurt. He's so small.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Like he certainly still has to answer the question whether or not he can stay healthy all season, Theo. But yeah, it's clearly Rice at the top. They just funnel him targets. Him and Mahomes' connection against zone coverages has just been awesome for two years now. And same thing can be said for Kelsey, even though he's lost a few steps,
Starting point is 00:25:31 especially after the catch, certainly can still get open against zone. I still don't know if I see a player on this team, Theo, who can really beat man coverage. And that's a problem. That's a problem for this team. 100%. It's a weird offense.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I think like the PPR scam for Rashi Rice, do they change that a little bit in favor of a more balanced approach with the running back? I'm like, does Rashi Rice return value? I was in a slow main event. I'm still in the slow main event, FFPC draft. And somebody took Rashi Rice like early second, mid second. And I feel like there's just a little too much optimism for him. Am I wrong to be fading that number one target role in Kansas City that we've seen with Rice on a per game basis?
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yeah, I think in Dynasty, yes, because like you said, I mean, he's he's kind of been a scam player. He's not necessarily, you know, a player who goes and lines up and wins outside just on his separation ability. It's really been like he's just amazing after the catch, really good and quick against zone coverage and crossers underneath stuff. But yeah, I think there's the chiefs have got to figure this out. They didn't spend a lot of resources doing it this summer. I think next year, in the future years, they've got to find a boundary X wide receiver who can line up and beat perimeter coverage. So let's go with the Atlanta Falcons right now. My guy, Drake London, got the bag, Graham, got the bag.
Starting point is 00:26:59 28% target share for him last year. He's extremely insulated in this offense. I think he's sort of a dark horse to be the wide receiver one overall. Then you've got Kyle Pitts, who last year had a 21% target share. He's probably the best bet to continue to be the number two target in the passing game. But I will bring up the fact that Bijan Robinson was at 18% target share last year, had 98 targets at the running back position, which is incredibly special. Again, it's a really concentrated target share.
Starting point is 00:27:36 My question to you is we have Kevin Stefansky now as the head coach. in Atlanta. Under Stefansky, we saw Harold Fanon Jr. last year. We saw David and Joku in multiple seasons in this scheme thriving for fantasy football. Do we see Kyle Pitts maybe improve on his 116 targets from last year? Or is there a chance that Bijan goes absolutely insane and has like 120 targets of the running back position this year? I think one of the two could happen because my guy, Zachariah Branch, to me, looks like the wide receiver too in terms of the most targets on the team. I agree. I think they've got more depth this year. So, you know, Pits still, you know, he's always kind of been a target earner, even though it's not been like anything crazy. He's always
Starting point is 00:28:22 been like, you know, 17, 18 percent. Even when they had, you know, Darnel Mooney, Drake London, fully playing healthy. I think Pitts is second in the team in targets. I think Bejohn will clearly be third. I think there'll be fewer targets to Bejohn this year, actually. I think it'll mainly be a London and Pitts focused offense. But I'm with you on London. I want to just real quick, I think Drake London has a chance to lead the league in targets. Yeah, I think it'll be Puka.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It'll probably, it'll be Chase. London, in terms of the volume, his first three target share, like everything is just screaming that he's going to push for like 38% of the first read targets. Like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:01 they've got Zachari branch. Like, yeah, Kyle Pitts can, obviously he's a receiver. Bejohn's a receiver too. can line up at receiver. But London, man, I think this entire offense just will flow through him. And we've seen this with Stefansky. Like when he has a clear cut number one wide receiver, he's willing to just kind of like, you know, basically, you know, funnel the entire offense through him.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And I think that'll be clearly Drake London this year. I think London is one of the safest picks on the board, man. Like, yeah, I think it's a incredibly high floor and a really sneaky high ceiling. Drake London, I think, offers you, like you bring up CD Lamb. I know the chat all over Justin Jefferson, and I love drafting Justin Jefferson when he falls to round two. But I think there's a chance that London outscores both of them and outscores Amon-Ross St. Brown this year. We have a super chat question from Sir Brooks. Do you guys? Do you guys? Do you guys? I do a lot of dynasty.
Starting point is 00:29:55 You can find it over at Fantasy Points, Dynasty YouTube and Dynasty Life, my Dynasty podcast. But we're going to take a dynasty question right now. I want to send a 2028 first and a conditional 2027 third that could be a 2028 second. If I make it for AJ Brown. So full PPR, super flex, tight-end premium, and he lists his roster. So basically, Graham, this is an AJ Brown question for you. Where are you at with AJ Brown? He's very smartly not giving up a 2027 first here.
Starting point is 00:30:27 This looks like it's going to be a 2028 one. So 2028 firsts obviously are valuable, but not quite at the steam or I think value level of the 2027 is going to be. I'm kind of okay with this one if you're actually going for it and his team looks like it's ready to run. He's got a ton of talented players on his roster. So this is probably going to be a late 2028 first. Huge stamp of approval for me, Sir Brooks.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I love AJ Brown. We'll save our AJ Brown discussion when we talk Patriots here, Theo. But yeah, I like that move a lot for you. I mean, you've got a full war chest of players here. And I mean, down the line, you could get that 28 first back by flipping one of, one of these players on your roster here. I agree. And again, this is another.
Starting point is 00:31:12 We need to have like a Graham Barfield, Scott Barrett, maybe Brett Whitefield, too, in the same chat and do a roundtable discussion. Let us know in the chat if you'd like to see that, Brett, Scott, Graham and I, and it's like two versus two because I think Graham and I, we're both on Mackay Lemon. We're both on a couple of these. AJ Brown. I know Scott's a little underwhelmed by his ceiling in New England. Graham, let's just do New England right now.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Let's go to New England. Do we think that, and I thought this was a really fun coach speak, but Josh McDaniels, everybody wanted him to say like Randy Moss, but he goes, AJ Brown, they're like, who does he remind you of? And he's like Rob Grancowski, talks about his size, talks about his power. I love that. Gronk had, I believe, three double-digit touchdown seasons with Josh McDaniels during his time there as OC. I mean, I love that one.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Yeah, that's speaks to the touchdown upside. That's for sure. I loved this. And I've been surprised, too, to kind of see some of the, like, I don't know, pouring a little bit of cold water just on this landing spot. It's like, you look back at the last four years, AJ Brown has finishes a top 12 wide receiver and fantasy by points per game. each of those four years. He was wide receiver 12, back-to-back years in 24 and 25, and then the two previous years before that, he was wide receiver seven. This offense, the Eagles offense was terrible last year. I think everybody kind of agrees.
Starting point is 00:32:37 It was just a little bit of a mess, especially at the end of last year. I mean, Brown came back from injury from weeks 10 through 18. He was wide receiver 8. And now he gets an upgrade from like three main perspectives, in my opinion. One, it's that the Patriots are just way more pass heavy than the Eagles. two, it's Drake May is better than Jalen Hertz. Hertz has been great over the last couple years, but, you know, May is much better against zone coverage. Both quarterbacks are like top three quarterbacks right now in football against man,
Starting point is 00:33:05 but May has been excellent against zone. That's something that Jalen Hertz has struggled against. And honestly, I think this is a significantly, significantly easier offense for A.J. Brown to earn targets in. Like, are we really concerned about Romeo Dubs and Hunter Henry? Both Goddard and Devontas Smith have been, you know, significantly better target earners over the last. last couple of years. The last two seasons, Devontas Smith has been up above a 30% first-reed-target chair.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Like I mentioned earlier in the show, Goddard's like tied in seven or tied-in-eight in first-rear-target chair. Romeo Dobbs has always been a good player, but he's not a target earner. Same thing with Hunter Henry, always around 17, 18% of the targets. I think he's clearly going to push for like 35% of the target share in this offense. And then, yeah, it's just like huge touchdown upside. I agree with you. And I think as a setup, like last year we were taking Brown like what, 16, 17, 18 of roll.
Starting point is 00:33:58 He's going to be going late second round, mid-second round most of the summer. Eventually it's funny. It's it all comes full circle. Yeah. If you think back to where was A.J. Brown going when he was traded from Tennessee to Philadelphia. It was like that one year where he was going at the two-three turn. He's going to probably be somewhere at that late second two-three turn area now. So I love it.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah. I love it. I love it. I think you take your R.B. 1, round one, come back at A.J. Brown, and that's a great start to your draft. Yeah. Now, is there going to be a fantasy relevant second target in New England? I think that that's a dangerous game to play right now. Not sure if I'm chasing Hunter Henry at all. I think Hunter Henry last year was like 17% target share. Now he's got Eli Raritan behind him, who I think is a huge upgrade from Austin Hooper. And you've also got Romeo Dubs, probably a little bit more consistent wide receiver two. I know people are going to say, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:55 what Dobs, Romeo Dobbs in Green Bay was not, you know, ever like a massive target owner, but I think Green Bay rotated wide receivers a little bit more than we're going to see with New England. They also gave him the bag this, this offseason in free agency. So I would probably go with Romeo Dubbs as the number two target in this passing game fairly easily. Are you down with that?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah, Dobbs pretty easy. but for fantasy, like weekly managed leagues, we're not going to be really discussing these guys. I think really for like Dobbs, Henry, if booty, if he sticks, Demerio, these guys are just best ball only, you know, types of selections. Let's go Tampa Bay Buccaneers next. This team, I think, is pretty fairly easy to figure out when it comes to number one and number two target earners. They end up with a mecha egg bucca, I think, as the clear number one target now.
Starting point is 00:35:48 It feels like that's where the steam is heading. A lot of the beat reporters are enthusiastic about the way Egbuka looks and the role he's going to have. And we saw him average like 20 points per game for the first five weeks of last year. Number two target, I think, is Chris Godwin right now fully healthy. I think that's also pretty easy. Do you want to stand for anybody else in this passing game? They have a number of talented younger wide receivers besides Chris Godwin. So like Egbuka looks like the one, the veteran Godwin as the two.
Starting point is 00:36:17 let's say Godwin goes down with an injury. Who's the wide receiver that benefits the most? Jalen McMillan, easily. And I actually think Jalen McMillan might have a chance to be the number two target on this team. He basically lost all of last season to a neck injury, suffered in preseason, almost cost him his entire year. So, you know, 25 was a bit of a wash. But, you know, late 24, he started to kind of come on as rookies typically do, Theo. You know, we've talked about this all the time, you know, midseason around October.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Rookies start to come on. And McMillan was no different, you know, two years ago. Finished the season on a very, very high note. It was averaging five, six, seven targets a game. And then, like I said, you know, last year was just a bit of a wash. If Godwin takes a step back, another step back, loses another step. You know, McMillan's got that inside, outside versatility that would really, really play well in this offense.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I think he's clearly the number three right now. But it's close to me. I think Agbuka is the number one, but Godwin and McMillan. in my mind are kind of like 2A and 2B even. Yeah, I think McMillan right now is a fantastic pick in bestball. And I think there's some contingent upside with him in redraft leagues, especially wide receiver heavy ones like NFFC. I had somebody and make a comment that I'm always talking about NFFC and FFC.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Not everybody plays it. I also reference Underdog. We don't have great ADP from like Sleeper or any other big like fantasy site. So let me know in the chat. if you want us to reference other ADPs occasionally, happy to do that. But the FFPC and NFFC, they're drafting right now. Graham, where do you like hearing ADP from? I play primarily on underdogs and draft kings right now.
Starting point is 00:37:58 That's typically the streets on them just playing bestball. But in terms of just predictive ADP, honestly, it's FFP, FFPC and NFFC. Those guys are spending lots of time, lots of money. It's very, very sharp. and in general it's very predictive of a future fantasy performance. Real quick, before we move on in Tampa, I think Ted Hurst, real quick, we just got to mention Ted Hurst. He could play ex-receiver for them.
Starting point is 00:38:26 And I don't know if I necessarily buy this, like, out of the gates. You know, rookie, you know, trying to make his name. They've got, you know, Egbuka and Godwin and McMillan potentially ahead of them. But Hurst profiles is their, you know, X vertical wide receiver. There's been some chatter that he might actually get some run in 11 personnel to start the year. And if that happens, man, we, you know, Egbuka, I still think leads this team of targets, but Godwin, McMillan and Hearst, kind of all draining targets from each other is not ideal for fantasy. When you look at guys making the leap from like the G5 schools up to the NFL, we were told all the time that it's like a little bit more of like a learning curve.
Starting point is 00:39:04 But last year, Harold Fann & Jr. did it. So I get it. Like we're coming from Georgia State to the NFL. But the vibes with Ted Hurst are fantastic. I think that Ted Hurst is going to be more of a 2027 every down roll type bet. I think he's going to have spike weeks. He's big, strong, fast. He'll have a couple of 100-yard games this year.
Starting point is 00:39:24 But I think it's going to be very difficult to predict for fantasy football. Let's get another super chat. Boys, am I wrong to say draft kings is plus EV over underdog? That's an interesting one. I did two shows with Dave Kluge, one here and one on the football guys channel where we covered Draft Kings. A lot of guys like Draft Kings, Graham, you got 20 rounds. It's PPR versus half point. And dare I say it, are the rooms a little bit looser? I think that's a common misconception. I think Draft Kings has gotten a lot sharper. Maybe two or three years ago you could
Starting point is 00:39:59 make that case, but I think it's actually pretty similar. I think the really the only like maybe main difference is that some Draft Kings, drafters just don't understand that, you know, full PPR, receivers should go a little earlier, especially like kind of in those mid-rounds when running backs die. Quarterbacks get pushed up the board correctly in that format. So I don't know. I think it's gotten a lot closer to the last couple years. I think you could have said that a couple years ago, but not so much anymore. Let's go New Orleans Saints for the next team that we discussed for the target pecking order. I think this is another easy, easy team. I think unless there's an injury, it's going to be Chris Alave as the number one target. And it's going to be Jordan Tyson.
Starting point is 00:40:39 as the number two target. Joanne Johnson, who was really good last year, I think the targets take a slight decrease in terms of the target share because the wide receiver position has been upgraded. Not only did they add Jordan Tyson, but they also drafted Bryce Lance, who's going to be on the field a lot.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I think in probably three wide receiver sets, I think he challenges Devon Vele because Lance has elite speed and athleticism as sort of a cardio guy. And then you've got Travis E.T.N. who is going to command a high number of touches as well. So I think Joanne Johnson might be the loser in this situation.
Starting point is 00:41:15 But I think it's Alave. I think it's Tyson. I think it's easy. I agree. And I have a rule in drafts this year, Theo. You want to hear it? You're going to draft a saint in every draft. Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Saint in every draft. I mean, a lave, clear target earner, clearly going to push for 120 targets. But I mean, we love the profile with Tyson. We love the offense. Tyler Shook should take a step forward. I loved Saints receivers last year, and I'm just kind of running it back again this year. I think it just makes a ton of sense. I think a lobby is going to go nuts, and I think Jordan Tyson's going to be really, really good.
Starting point is 00:41:49 So I think this is going to be a really fun offense to attack as well. Tyler Shuck in best ball drafts, really easy to build those secondary stacks with Saints. You can draft one of the wide receivers, then get Shuck as like your QB2. If you're going with a three QB build, it's very fun to get access to the Saints. Ryan Heath and I did a top five breakout offenses. I really wanted to push New Orleans to one, but you've got to go Mike McDaniel in Los Angeles. That team is going to be scoring a ton of points.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Just easier for me to make a bold bet on Justin Herbert than Tyler Shuck. But the vibes with Shuck are awesome. Even yesterday at OTAs, you're hearing a lot of very positive reports on how Tyler Shuck looks. He's making some outstanding completions while he's on the move. A lot of the stuff we saw during down the tail end of last year seems to be carrying over to this offseason, and the vibes are great.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Let's go with another team. Let's go with the Detroit Lions, a team that has been fantasy football gold for many, many seasons in a row. Another new offensive coordinator situation, but it doesn't matter. And we know Dan Campbell, if a guy's not performing as the OC,
Starting point is 00:42:52 it's going to say, I got it. I'm going to go call plays, and I'm going to get the ball to my guy, Jemir Gibbs, Jameson Williams, and of course, the sun god. We also get a healthy Sam Leporta this year. Leporta, we remember how good he was as a rookie, how impactful he was in,
Starting point is 00:43:07 or two, especially down the stretch. So this offense could be cooking with gas. You've also got Isaac Tesla, who was really strong on like a, I mean, the touchdown rate was insane on his completions. I think he's going to be better in year three, another huge physical presence. But let's talk about it. I think it's pretty easy to predict this one. Amunraa St. Brown, number one target until he retires probably in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And then Jameson Williams has developed into a player that I think we can rely on to go north of 100, 110 targets. Jameson is really, really good. The vibes are great. I love messing with Scott Barrett on this one, too, because I think I'm a huge J-Mo guy. Brett Whitefield, also a huge J-mo guy. But Jameson-Wilums, he was cooking yesterday at OTAs.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I sent the video to Scott Barrett. I'm like, look at these Tyree Kill highlights. Oh, wait, that's Jameson. So Jameson, I'm into it cost. I love Ammon Rae St. Brown. Ammon Rae's interesting, though, Graham, you got to pay for it this year. We're used to getting Amon Raw, like the one,
Starting point is 00:44:05 turn maybe he's like the 202 203 and you're like oh easy click amon rae you're starting to see sometimes in consideration like the 107 108 in some of these drafts um so am i correct this is easy to predict and your quick thoughts on these two wide receivers st brown should be going like 106 107 and ppr leaks the floor is just really high uh yeah maybe the touchdown ceiling's not super super high when all three of these guys are healthy with jmo and and leporta but yeah i'm with you on on on maan ra you know, the volume's going to be amazing. I don't think he's got the like triple crown threat in the way that like Jamar Chase and maybe C. Lam have.
Starting point is 00:44:42 But yeah, I mean, he's just the floor is really high. Jamo's just kind of continued to get better. I think, you know, last two years ago, we saw him really start to get better, you know, middle of the field running those crossers. And last year, you know, the full route share, full route tree was there. Jamo, to me, I mean, I think he's kind of a similar bet to last year, but even better. And the ADP hasn't changed. He's still going on the fourth round.
Starting point is 00:45:09 You look at the last 10 games with Dan Campbell calling plays. Jamm-O is at a 21% target show. Now, Sam LaPorter was hurt for a lot of that time. Kind of have to put a little asterisk on that. But Jembo, you know, getting him up to 20, 21, 22% of the targets weekly is just like, it's huge. You know, because we know that the ceiling is really high with him. He only needs like three or four,
Starting point is 00:45:29 maybe even just two targets to have like a huge game. But him having some consistent volume in this offense, like he did the end of last year after Campbell took over. Fully expect that to kind of continue into this year. And they're going to be a very, very concentrated offense. Very much kind of a Rams, you know, not East Coast, but maybe Midwest team. Rams Midwest there with the Lions super concentrated offense. And yeah, I'm very much into JMO again this year.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Very much. Reminder, we are going to be giving away a Scott Fishbowl entry or two when we reached the hour mark on this live. stream. If you didn't already do so, write the words SFB in our live chat right here on YouTube. And we're going to announce one at the 60 minute mark and maybe one when we finish up. Let's go Carolina Panthers next. Carolina. Oh, and you know, before we do that, let's go back to Detroit. Let's talk Sam Leporter, though. Just any concerns with the back injury? Every time I say his name on a pod, people are kind of jumping in and pointing out the back injury.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Do you think this is a optim, do you have optimism with Leporter this year with this injury? And it's created sort of an ADP value for you, or are you looking elsewhere with your tight end decision? They've definitely slow played it. He should be close to full health. But yeah, I mean, this is now two years where Laporte has had, you know, season-ending injuries. He played through a really bad ankle injury and their 24 playoff run as well. We know he can play through injury and play well through injury. It's not necessarily a question of that. You know, this back injury, you know, he's never really been like the world's quickest separator. So I see the, concern, but he still has like similar touchdown upside to previous seasons. It's just clear to me that
Starting point is 00:47:10 St. Brown and Jammell are just way more dynamic. They're going to get the first reads. A hundred percent agree with you on that one. Let's go with the Carolina Panthers. And this is one where they're very much being talked about right now a lot the last few weeks because of Jonathan Brooks. People are looking at what Chris Brasel is doing. But it all comes down to Teteroa McMillan. Is Tetero-McMillan going to have that huge leap forward in year two? We love the talent. Don't necessarily trust Bryce Young, but I think it's about as clear as day
Starting point is 00:47:40 that McMillan will lead them in targets. Who will be the second target leader? And will that player be fantasy relevant? I think the favorite right now is Jell and Koker, and that's who I would go with. We, of course, saw the fantastic game in the NFL playoffs and that close loss to the Rams. Where are you at on Koker this year?
Starting point is 00:48:02 Coker's awesome. I think if you dropped him into any offense, that had a reasonably good quarterback. He'd probably be fantasy relevant every week. But I have the same take on Bryce Young I've had for now four years. The guy has never averaged 190 yards per game in any season of his NFL career. He's averaging 180 yards per game. In his career, he's averaging like six yards per pass attempt in his career.
Starting point is 00:48:24 He's great against man coverage, but he can't throw over zones. And this is just a height limitation, right? like Drew Breeze just had like unbelievable anticipation and timing that allowed him to to beat zone coverages and kind of find those soft spots and zones and Bryce Young just has not developed anywhere close to that. Yeah, he avoids sacks pretty well, but there's just so many limitations with Bryce as a passer that I think it's going to limit Tett. I think it's significantly going to limit any second or third target on this offense again. Yeah, it's it's kind of disappointing with McMillan because you're having to spend such high. draft capital on him. His ADP cost is really, really high. I know Chris Wecht is low on him in
Starting point is 00:49:06 our projections. I'm higher on him than Chris is, but it still might not mean that I get as much McMillan as I probably would like based on I'm not going to use this like mid third round pick on him. I think that's a difficult number for him to deliver on. Now, if I'm wrong, I mean, he could get there in multiple ways because I think he is a true alpha wide receiver, not questioning the talent, just questioning Bryce Young's ability to get him there at his ADP cost. Let's keep it going. Let's go Washington Commanders. Another team that has a clear cut, number one, I think that the focal point of the entire
Starting point is 00:49:41 offense might be Terry McLaurin this year. And I think there's a chance that even at like 31 years old, Terry McLaren could set a career high in total targets for the season. Who will be the number? Your thoughts on McLaurin for sure. do you have a lean into who the number two target on the team will be? Because I think there's a number of candidates. Yeah, real quick on McCloren. He's going to be a flag plant player for me. I'll save it from our articles this offseason on fantasy points. But yeah, I'm all in on McLaren. I'm with you
Starting point is 00:50:13 100% logically on him pushing for 140, 150 targets. He's never done that in his career. Antonio Williams is clearly the number two to me. He's got a real opportunity here to step forward and this is kind of wide open, you know, receiver room. You know, this is the third year of this regime. It's kind of crazy that we're looking at this receiver room. But Antonio Williams has a ton of opportunity here. They do have, you know, they brought in Chigua, a Conquo. You know, Traylon Burks is still like Jalen Lane.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Luke McCaffrey. I loved him coming out, but he's, you know, he's not pop. Van Jefferson's never been a tart. So it's like, man, it really is just Antonio Williams, you know, kind of chance to push for 75, 80, 90 targets here. I question if he's going to be, you know, fantasy relevant, you know, to start the season, but would not surprise me if we saw Williams kind of push to be like a low-end, wide receiver three by mid-season.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I think he's an awesome pick in best ball right now. Awesome pick. Yeah, I'm into Antonio Williams. I think that there's also a lot of parallels between Antonio Williams' rookie season and Terry McLaurin's rookie season. Interesting. I understand they're very different players, but if you look at it, McLaren was a third round pick.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Antonio Williams, a third round pick, an instant opportunity. The team gives it to him, and he runs with it. Williams also has the ability to sort of step into the Debo role pretty quickly, too, which we saw was fantasy relevant for a number of weeks last year. Chigacanquo is interesting to me because I think he can have a career high in targets. I talked about him as a tight end value. The one thing about Antonio Williams that I completely agree with you and also, a couple people in the chat that it looks like Antonio.
Starting point is 00:51:54 There is a lot of steam with Stefan Diggs becoming a Washington commander. And if Diggs becomes a commander, then all bets are off. He's going to be the, he'll be a 20% target share guy, a 19, 20% target share guy. So then another person in the chat saying Rashad White might get 80 target. Yeah, Rashad White could be this year's version of Kenneth Gainwell. Ooh, I like that call. I think he might be. I mean, he's clearly their only running back who can play on passing downs.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Like I know you like to Corey Krosky Merritt. I think Scott does too, but like he's never been. It's got to be Rashad White this year. Yeah, exactly. And Ketron Allen, like, yeah, he's big and he's a physical player. But yeah, I think, you know, for sure it'll be Rashad White playing on passing downs. Let's throw up the full NFL teams because now we've got to start playing catch up here. We've covered everybody had like a nice organized spreadsheet here.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Let's go with the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo Bills acquire DJ Moore. This is a player they traded a second round pick for. And the vibes are okay. And I think that DJ Moore, the enthusiasm drafters have with him, like they're pushing him up into like the fourth round on draft kings. I think that DJ Moore is a decent structural pick. But I'm not like, I'm not in the camp that DJ Moore is going to have this massive ceiling season.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Am I off on this one? It's tricky. because DJ Moore, when he's at his best, he certainly has a top 12 ceiling and fantasy, and we've seen it. We saw that year with Justin Fields where, you know, Moore was, the separation skills were there, the downfield ability was there. And then the last two years, he's kind of just fallen into kind of like a 1B at times 1A and then at times like a 3 or 4 in the Bears' offense.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I question his target earning ability, but I don't know if it really matters in this offense, and it's only because of Josh Allen, right? Like Josh Allen really is the quarterback who can rise all tides, provide tons of touchdown opportunities and touchdown equity for this offense and by extension, DJ Moore. So I can have questions about Moore's target earning potential, but like I just think, you know, Josh Allen, like we've been waiting for him to have just a decent receiver. who is consistently at 20 to 21, 22% of the targets, and now he finally gets that.
Starting point is 00:54:21 And yeah, maybe DJ Moore's passed his prime a little bit. I'm a little more optimistic on DJ more than some. I do think this cost, though, is it's fair, but it's a little pricey. I like Terry McLaren a little more. I like a few other receivers a little more that go just behind DJ Moore. But I'm not out on DJ Moore. I think clearly, though, the second target on the, this offense is Khalil Shakir. Dalton Kincaid is like a best ball only type player. The guy just is a
Starting point is 00:54:51 50, 55% route chair player consistently because he can't play in line. He's just a big slot receiver. And then he's kind of like jammed by Shakir. Shakir is not going to come off the field in this offense just because, you know, he's really good underneath, great separator underneath and Alan trusts him on third downs. But yeah, I wanted to, I want, I came into this offseason thinking I'd probably be pretty heavy on DJ Moore, to be honest, Theo. And I figured he'd be a fifth round pick, but he's getting pushed in the fourth, and it's a fair price.
Starting point is 00:55:20 But the ceiling is certainly there, to answer your question. I see the ceiling upside, but I question the floor in this offense. I question also, like, maybe the bills just go really run heavy this year. James Cook was freaking awesome last year. You know, like this team's going to be really good.
Starting point is 00:55:36 They're going to be leading in a lot of games. You know, there's certainly potential here for DJ Moore to have lots of big plays, like a 9, 10, 11, 12 target player per game. Yeah, it's funny. With DJ Moore, I traded for a lot of DJ more in Dynasty. I was able to get him at a pretty reasonable cost. And there's just a disconnect with the price tag you had to pay. Obviously, he's a little bit older.
Starting point is 00:55:57 But the price tag I had to pay in Dynasty was very reasonable for me to get Josh Allen's number one target. But in redraft, he's starting to steam up a little bit. So an interesting player for us to monitor all off season long. There's been a really strong track record of at least one. one wide receiver traded in the offseason hitting in a major way in fantasy football. We saw it last year with George Pickens. This year you have a number of candidates, including A.J. Brown, DJ Moore, J. Waddle,
Starting point is 00:56:27 Michael Pittman Jr. So very, very interesting players to monitor. I'm probably a little higher than you are on Dalton Kincaid. It was like a 14% target share guy last year. You're able to get him as a high-end, tight end two this year. We saw it as rookie year, sort of like the number of catches he had his rookie year. I think he could get back to that level this year. So I know you don't want to trust him, but I think I'll be a little higher on Kincade than you are.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Shakir just doesn't interest me, especially with DJ Moore there. He's just such a boring, like, slot yak guy for me. Yeah, I agree. There's no upside with Shakir. He's like perennally wide receiver 37. Let's go back to the NFL screen here. Let's go with another team we haven't covered. You know, Graham, you pick this one.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Which team do you want to talk about? Let's go Jets. I think Jets are a little interesting. Okay, so Jets, easy as it gets. You got Garrett Wilson, number one target, 100%, no reason to even discuss it. Number two is interesting because you've got Adonai, who was good down the stretch last year.
Starting point is 00:57:32 You've got Omar Cooper Jr., who they used the first round pick for. They traded back into the first round to be able to get Cooper. Then you got Kenyon and Sadiq, who a lot of people just eye roll at me, but Sadiq, they used the 16th overall pick on, unbelievable athleticism, they have a plan for him. And then we'll keep a candle burning on Brees Hall's target share and target total, returning to like the good old days.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Where are you out for a number two target? And could that player be fantasy relevant? Yeah, I wanted to talk Brees. That's actually why I wanted to bring this up. Because I do think there's a chance he takes that big leap back up, right? Ash and Jancy had 72 targets last year. Brees Hall just got the bag. He's going to play every single passing down.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Isaiah Davis doesn't concern me. Braylon Allen's not a pass-down player to begin with, and he's coming off a major knee injury. I think Brees Hall has significant underrated upside as a pass catcher. Like you said, we've seen the season with him, right? Like we've seen the big upside with him in terms of the target volume. And then this offense has just been so bad for the last couple of years. But yeah, you know, 2023 had 95 targets.
Starting point is 00:58:39 then 76 and 2024. Then last year, obviously, you know, this offense was just really bad. It was Brady Cook at the end of last year. I don't need to spend a whole lot of time on that. You know, Gino is, he throws a lot of catchable passes. Sometimes they're to the other team, unfortunately, because he makes a lot of bad decisions. But I think this offense is going to take a step forward this year
Starting point is 00:58:58 just because Gino kind of gives them a little higher floor, a little higher floor. But yeah, I don't know, man. I've been thinking about this too with Bruce. Like I think we're really underrating his target earning potential. for, you know, two main reasons. One, Gino and the offense just is slightly better. They're on the field a little more. And then we've seen this.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Like, James Cook, same thing happened last year. He got the bag last off season and just started playing a lot more. That's typically how this goes. You know, you pay running backs to play. And, yeah, I think Brees, you know, we've got them projected for 50 targets. I'd like to push that up a little bit more. I don't know. I think that's light.
Starting point is 00:59:32 I think that's really light. I don't know, man. Like, I see it. I see the potential. Like, it's clearly Garrett Wilson's going to push for 130. targets. But Brees could could get back into that like 70, 80 target range pretty easily because like you said, I mean, Cooper and Mitchell could kind of cannibalize each other a little bit. And certainly Sadiq and Mason Taylor could this year. See, I like Bruce a lot. I'm on the,
Starting point is 00:59:54 I'm on this. I think Sadiq easily outscores Mason Taylor this year in fantasy scoring. For sure. That's as much. Yeah. I'm with you. And to the chat, you see a lot of Brise Hall enthusiasm here in the chat as well. Brees Hall has been one of the guys I've been, clicking on in a ton of these early drafts, Underdog, FFPC. Early third round, Breece Hall, feels like such an edge pick right now, Graham. Plus, I don't have to worry about getting into the Josh Jacobs, Bucky Irving, like all these landmines that are presenting themselves at running back behind. Like, when you can get Breece Hall close to the two, three turn, it feels like a really good way
Starting point is 01:00:31 to start your draft as like you're running back two or as you're running back one if you want to start it out and sort of go wide receiver tight end or wide receiver wide receiver. Yeah, I'm with you. I like Breece quite a bit. And we're drafting in this environment. We're running backs are correctly getting pushed up the board. But it does seem like there's a little bit of lag in Breece's ADP. To me, he profiles just like almost like a one-two turn pick.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I've been going through my tears this summer. And I've been struggling to get Breece down to where he's going to his ADP. I just love the, I just love the player. I think the floor is really, really high with him. And again, you get him competent quarterback that can kind of keep drives going. I certainly see the upside here for like 7580 targets. Yeah, contract insulation. They gave him the bag.
Starting point is 01:01:19 He's really, really talented. It's like a post-type sleeper where everybody's sort of like drafting Breeshall structurally and not for the upside that he presents. It feels like it could deliver in a major way. Let's go with another team in the AFC East. Let's go fun one. Let's go Miami Dolphins. Let's go Miami Dolphins because nobody wants to talk about this.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I think that there is a chance that even though this is not an offense designed for it, I think that Devon A. Chan could lead them in targets this year because they don't have a whole lot of guys there. And I know this is not what Malik Willis is. He's got a big arm. He wants to go downfield. But I think there's going to have to be some design target looks for Devon A. Chan based on the target competition around him. Your thoughts on that one before we get into. to the weeds of number two target.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yeah, it's A-chan or bust on this entire team to me. Yeah, he's been a PPR cheat code for two seasons now, especially last year. Yeah, you question the pace of the offense. I question the play caller. I don't think Bobby Sloick is very good. I don't think he's very inventive. But Bobby Sloick has been associated with Devon A-chan getting the ball. So, like, that's the one thing about Sloick is he was here before.
Starting point is 01:02:34 This is not like theoretical like he was here on this this staff last year. Right. That's what, yeah. And, you know, they just don't, it's all up in the air right now, right? With their target room, we have it projected basically Chris Bell, Kail and Douglas, Malik Washington, like all these guys between 40 and 50 targets. I'll be honest. I have no idea who the second target on the team is.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I just feel very strongly that Devon A. A. Chan is clearly going to lead this team in targets. And it might be by a huge margin, man. We might look at the season and be like, A. got 90 targets and then there's no one else on this team over 70. Yeah, and I think a lot of the gloom and doom takes on Devon Achan would go completely out the window if he ends up with that sort of target total. If I'm chasing a number two target right now and I'm drafting on like Underdog, because I have been drafting a lot of Malik Willis in bestball. I've been using Greg Dulcich or Malik Washington as like the 18th round, 17th round guy I'm tethering to him, not trying to play like.
Starting point is 01:03:33 rookie wide receiver roulette here. I love Chris Bell, but Chris Bell is coming off of a major, major injury, not interested in Jalen Tolbert, Tutu Atwell. So for me, and Caleb Douglas doesn't really interest me. So I'm looking at Malik Washington, who has familiarity in this team, is a player that I think they like a little bit. He's such a capped upside guy, though, that he's never going to be relevant in redraft leagues. But I do think he'll get enough touches in certain weeks
Starting point is 01:04:01 that he could be relevant as like an 18th rounder. I really just want Malik Willis and Devon Aachen. I'm kind of these receivers, like I'm just really struggling to see the upside. I liked Chris Bell too coming out, but yeah, coming off the injury, he feels like somebody who's like, man, mid-October, like November. That's when he starts kind of ramping up. I really don't have a strong take on any of these receivers. I do love Devon A-chan again, though. He was a big flag plant for me last year, worked out.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I'm going to be back in this year. Certainly with some tempered expectations, though, with the play collar change. But the cost, the cost is very strong. You can get them at like the 205 in a lot of these drafts. So I understand sort of the apprehension, but when you're talking about a player who averaged 20 points per game plus last year, 1,350 rushing yards last year and the number of targets he had last year. And now I'm able to get him after he gets paid the contract, I'm able to get him in the middle of the second round. Like I get the people fading this offense.
Starting point is 01:04:59 but we also haven't seen not to we're supposed to be talking targets but devon a chan next to a mobile quarterback that's cool graham for a guy who gets this sort of yards per carry yeah the the run game i think might be pretty good it's just yeah this passing game it's it's going to be a work in progress and you know i'm with you i i love drake london devon a chance starts like that's just money to me money in the bank so let's put up the nfl teams one more time and before we do that uh we are going to give away a Scott Fishbowl entry. My producer, Trey Camberling, is in the background right now. He's about to throw it up. Kevin on YouTube, you win an entry into the Scott Fishbowl. So Kevin on YouTube, if you're still live in the chat, you just won. Congratulations. And we're
Starting point is 01:05:46 going to give another one out at the end of this show. So if you haven't already done so and you want to be in consideration, make sure you register over at FantasyPoint.com and write SFB in our YouTube comments. Let's go back to the list of NFL teams. I'll pick the next one here. Let's go with a fun one. Let's go with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jacksonville Jaguards here.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I'm going to go. I'm not going to overcomplicate it. I think it's Parker, Washington, and Brian Thomas Jr. And I think Jacobi Myers is the number three target. I think that Brent and Strange could be a threat and kind of break in if one of these wide receivers gets banged up. or if they sort of cannibalize one another. But I think the vibes with Parker Washington
Starting point is 01:06:29 and the vibes with Brian Thomas Jr. are pretty good right now. Where are you out on this one? I am heavily buying a BTJ bounce back season. Heavily. And early seventh round. We had this conversation with Scott Barrett. Seventh round in FFPC for Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And on Underdog, on Draft Kings, he's a good, good easy click right now. It feels like a risk-free pick, man. Like, truly. We know he's going to play. play every snap, right? Because like Parker Washington is, is typically kind of, he profiles more of a slot interior receiver. And if they do play more 12 personnel this year, Theo, between, you know, Strange and Boercher, Washington would probably be the one to lose out. But just real quick on BTJ,
Starting point is 01:07:12 like I think everybody's just kind of memory hold. Like, he was, he was bad, like objectively bad, like to start last year. The first eight games of last year, I mean, he was just a massive bus. Do you think it could have been from being banged up and he played through it and wasn't really good with the contact. And I'm not using the word toughness, but maybe the fear of contact when you're dealing with an injury as a young player maybe hasn't dealt with that sort of injury. That's exactly what I was about to say. So he was dealing with some sort of wrist injury last year or maybe lower body injury,
Starting point is 01:07:45 maybe multiple injuries. I remember watching him in the preseason and Trevor Lawrence threw a pass over the middle. I think they were playing the Steelers in the preseason game. and like BTJ literally like cowered away from from a ball over the middle. And I gets preseason, but maybe he was legitimately really hurt. But I just wanted to say like those first eight games, yeah, he, you know, mega bust did not work out at all as a first round pick. But the volume man was really good.
Starting point is 01:08:11 So first eight games before he got hurt, he was averaging 7.9 targets per game, would have put him on pace for 134 targets. And if BTJ gets like 7, 8, 9 targets a game and he's pushing for 134, He's going to lead this team in targets for sure. I'm pretty convicted that BTJ is one of the best picks on the board right now. You look at the interview, he just did an interview during OTAs where he was like saying he feels a lot more confident. You know, it feels good to be able to run again without being, you know, feeling injured. He's clearly the team's vertical threat.
Starting point is 01:08:42 And you put, you put that rookie season tape on, man. Like that player has to, it still has to exist. It was one of the best rookie seasons of all time. I was calling him Julio White. I mean, that's the type of player he was looking like in the way he was winning in terms of his explosive ability. I think he's a slam dunk pick. I think he easily leads this team in targets. I'm with you on Jacobi Myers.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Like he's going to be the number two or number three. He will definitely not be the number one target earner on this team. And Parker Washington would be your bet to be the number two? I think so. I just don't think you can put that end of last year in the, you know, you just, yeah, it's a small sample. sure, but like you can't put that back in the bag. And especially, you know, with Travis Hunter coming back and the Jags corner is being so bad, like certainly makes sense for Hunter to be a full-time cornerback. And when he came out of the draft, Theo, I was talking to Brad, I thought he
Starting point is 01:09:35 would be a full-time cornerback. So would certainly make some sense that, yeah, they play a little more 12 personnel this year, but they rock with, you know, BTJ, Washington and Myers as their three. Let's go back to the board and let's pick another team here. I think we're going to go with the, let's go hard. Let's go Green Bay Packers. Oh, man. Is it that hard? It's actually not that hard. It's actually not that hard. I think it's Christian Watson and then I think it's Tucker Craft. You could tell me it's Tucker Kraft and then Christian Watson, but Tucker Craft is still banged up. We have a little bit of lack of clarity. But if we get really positive reports of Tucker
Starting point is 01:10:12 craft in July, in August, then I think that this becomes fairly simple. But I do think Christian Watson, we look at how last season went. I think he's fully healthy. This is a player that I think is an easy click right now in a number of formats. You also like factor in, could Josh Jacobs miss some time this year? And I think that the team's going to be a little bit more pass happy than they've been the last two seasons regardless. And I think it's going to be a little bit better. One huge fantasy like takeaway is I think that the wide receivers are going to be a little bit more consolidated in terms of snaps and in targets. We've heard rumblings of that, which if, like, anybody's sort of following this team in previous seasons,
Starting point is 01:10:55 it would be so annoying with, like, the random usage for, like, Don Tavian Wicks, sort of, like, being mixed in at random, not to mention Romeo Dubs being, like, one of the biggest fantasy football, like, kind of fantasy football cock blocks on the block out there, while he would just, like, kill your vibe with any player you're starting. I'll bring up Jaden Reed because Jaden Reed, they gave him the bag, and we really like Jaden Reed, the talent. Matthew Golden, I think, could break out this year, but still a cap target upside guy.
Starting point is 01:11:29 To me, Christian Watson, Tucker Kraft are the two cleanest profiles here if we're looking for the number one and number two. Christian Watson is a flag plant for me this year, man. You know, you look at the last three years. He's always been a target earner, 22, 22, and 24 percent of the targets per route. run. It was up to 24% last year. Then you mentioned, the key here is there's no Romeo Dobbs and there's no Don Tavian Wicks taken, you know, 30, 40% of the routes away. They're going to be a lot more consolidated this year. Watson's going to have to play every snap. I think he's got a clear
Starting point is 01:12:02 runway for upwards of 110 to 120 targets. I think base is like 90 to 95. Tucker Kraft, if he's fully healthy, he's clearly the number two to me. I think there's still some question whether or not Jaden Reed plays outside in their two wide receiver, 12 personnel sets. Golden takes a step forward. I think ideally they probably want the speed, right? They want Watson and a golden out there. That's the read, Reed Golden in two wide receiver sets.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Like during peak, during peak Jaden Reed, LaFleur never trusted him in the two wide receiver sets. And we would always get like really upset about Jaden Reed's snapshot. And that was like peak Jaden Reed season. Like anybody who remembers like the Brazil game, anybody who remember, Brazil game was year two, his first game where he looked like Tyree Kill.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And then down the stretch in his rookie season where he's scoring all those touchdowns, they're doing all these like design carries for him out of the backfield. But they never fully trusted him as a full-time player. Golden, they used the first round pick on. And if people want to brush that aside and say, you know, Theo, you don't know ball. They took this fast guy in the first round. These guys all fail. But golden year two, they might have a real big plan for Graham.
Starting point is 01:13:09 So like, Golden, I think, is on the field and the two wide receiver. I agree and that's the one thing that's kept me back because I've always been a big believer in Jaden Reed's talent, but I'm with you. That's the one thing that's holding me back from like really buying. But it did, if that's the case, it's even more bullish for Christian Watson. I just pulled it up in the data suite last year. Jaden Reed looks like he did not run a single route in 12 personnel. That's, uh, it's pretty crazy. So there you go. There's your answer. It'll be golden and Watson. I think that's the way LaFleur will want to play. Yeah, this is a really fun team.
Starting point is 01:13:45 And I think when we put a team like Green Bay on the screen, how passionate the chat is people have strong ideas of the best value at ADP. If you can nail it here, I think that you're going to end up with a player that could really help you win in fantasy because there's some unknown upside with this passing game because people are gravitating towards what did Green Bay do the last two years. They've been so run heavy. But when we look at Jordan Love's initial season, Jordan Love was like a top five quarterback in fantasy football. They were passing it on the field. And certainly Josh Jacobs changed the trajectory of the offense. When they went from an Aaron Jones offense to a Josh Jacobs offense, things changed. But Green Bay, if we look at how the season ended for them the last two years, they lose to their rivals,
Starting point is 01:14:33 the Chicago Bears in the playoffs this past year. And they got woodshed by Philadelphia the year before. So, like, LaFleur, if they're doing some self-scouting, things have got to change a little bit. I think this team is a team we need to pay attention to. And I think even if you disagree with us, take shots on drafting a Green Bay pass catcher, flag plant your own guy here and get access to him. If Tucker Kraft is your guy, draft him. If you're on Christian Watson, draft him.
Starting point is 01:14:59 And if you don't like paying the premium on Christian Watson and Tucker Kraft, then take Jaden Reed or Matthew Golden. Because I think there's fantasy points to be scored in this offense. and the price tag for all these guys is pretty good. So we did Jacksonville, we did Green Bay. Do you want to do an easy one or a hard one, Graham? Let's do the Cardinals because I think we need to talk. Yeah, we need to talk Harrison versus Wilson here.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Okay, so Trey McBride, 100 catches, back-to-back season, set the record for the most catches by a tight end in NFL history last year. Even if he regresses 10%, he's, even if he regresses 15%, he's probably still leading this team in targets, catches, all of that good stuff. He's gone now into like the third round, Graham. So I guess a lot of the pessimism of the quarterback situation of Trey McBride touchdowns regressing. Like all of that's baked in. But third round, Tray McBride's not going to hurt you in these formats.
Starting point is 01:15:51 He's really, really good. Michael Wilson, Marvin Harrison, Jr. Right. That's the debate. Our fantasy points data account tweeted out the top separation win rates against press coverage among first and second year wide receivers over the last two years and uh marvin harrison jrador was number one i mean the guy i know the production has been that i know he's been the butt of everybody's joke he got hurt last year and it was a multitude of things then he has the
Starting point is 01:16:22 appendectomy once he comes back like the guy has just been really unlucky i still think he's incredible and i think we're in for a 30-year breakout uh yeah the adp is pointing towards that way but not as strong as you think. You know, Wilson's going in the 90s, MHJ is going in the 60s. The one question to me is the quarterback here. I think we need to spend a little bit of time thinking through, like, what if the Cardinals are 1 in 10
Starting point is 01:16:47 and they decide to give Carson Beck a chance, and that would be really bad for everybody in this entire passing offense? I think there's some significant downside risk with the quarterback room. But, yeah, I mean, in terms of raw talent, this trio is incredible. I have been really surprised. surprised to see some people pushing Michael Wilson ahead of MHJ. I don't buy that at all. I think last
Starting point is 01:17:10 year, we would have seen some sort of breakout from Marvin Harrison had he been able to stay healthy. And the, you know, the factor to me is like, you know, Jacoby took over midseason. He did not have, Marvin Harrison did not have any practice reps, I would imagine in August and training camp with, with Preset. And then he got hurt. So he just had like no time to build chemistry. So it makes sense that Michael Wilson and in Brissette's, you know, chemistry, their connection was a lot better. I think that gets figured out very, very quickly early in the year. And I think everybody's going to kind of feel foolish for thinking Marvin Harrison's not good, man, because I think I think he's incredible.
Starting point is 01:17:47 You know, he had some really bad high profile drops that got memed last year, but he definitely took a step forward. He still put up a bunch of spike weeks, too. Exactly. And when him and Michael Wilson were healthy together, he was out targeting him every game. So like I get it. I love Michael Wilson. I think Michael Wilson's good. But again, if we're thinking it's going to be Carson Beck,
Starting point is 01:18:08 it's going to be hard for a number three target to return a lot of value. So getting one versus two, getting, excuse me, two versus three is very important. Then you factor in Jeremiah Love. Jeremiah Love's going to get some targets here, Graham. So I think it's really a bet on talent, a bet on profile situation. I'm able to get Marvin Harrison Jr. Super cheap. and I think that his ADP is going to go down a little bit over the next couple days
Starting point is 01:18:33 because of something so remarkably stupid. I talked about this with Scott Barrett yesterday. There was like this post on X that everybody started reposting where it was some guy who also named Theo. I don't remember some beat reporter. And he said that it's Michael Wilson, the Pukunakua role. And it's Marvin Harrison Jr. in the Devante Adams role. But then I actually watched.
Starting point is 01:19:00 I actually watched Mike LaFleur talking about it. And he was talking about Marvin Harrison Jr. In this X role. But then he was like, we're able to line them up all over the field. We're going to put the X in motion. We're going to have the X like lined up in this. Like he was basically like saying it's an X in like name alone, but it's going to be a very expansive role. And it was such a bullish quote that people took as such a negative quote.
Starting point is 01:19:26 So like, I don't know. The whole thing made me annoyed. I talked to Scott Barrett about this a little bit. I just feel like once in a while you've got to watch the actual quote instead of just rolling with it. And I think especially nowadays, like on X, somebody will put something out there and then everybody just runs with it. So I think it was the beat reporter who put this on there, the actual video was, I believe it's Beau Brack. But if you want to watch it, like go to like Bo Brack as like an Arizona Cardinals beat reporter. I might be saying his name incorrectly, but he does, he's a good follow if you want Arizona Cardinals information.
Starting point is 01:19:56 So I think we're both kind of aligned. I think, you know, and it used to be street legal for wide receivers to break out in year three or get much better in year three. So it'll be put to the test like, are is BTJ and like Marvin Harrison Jr.? Like are those guys kind of like cooked because they had a bad year two season? Like I don't know, Graham. I don't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, God, man, like everybody, you know, we live in this society where we want like, you know, just instant gratification.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I'm still very much in the mind of like, hey, it might take unless you're Jemar Chase, you know, take some of these receivers some time to fully fully break out i'm i'm there with b tj i'm there with harrison as well yeah and with btj last year like and we got to cover a bunch more teams in rapid fire here but it with btj we were having like btj versus amon ross st brown discussions last year that's how good his rookie season was graham like at adp cost um obviously it was amon rossed but this year you don't have to make a decision to take on btj at the one two turn you can draft him in the seventh round. And Marvin Harrison Jr. also super, super cheap.
Starting point is 01:21:01 So Marvin Harrison Jr. on Underdog has been a player that I've clicked on a ton. It's just sort of a bet on profile. He's never going to be like Justin Jefferson. He's never going to be Jamar Chase. I think that ship has sailed. But can he be a guy that's a weekly starter and fantasy? Like that window is still open for Marvin Harrison Jr.
Starting point is 01:21:20 So we'll keep an eye on that one. Let's go back to the big board. Shout out to all the live viewers here. If you're not subscribed to the channel, press that subscribe channel to subscribe to channel button. It doesn't cost you anything and it helps us out a lot. It gives us the flexibility to do live content like this. And make sure hit that like button if you're enjoying Graham and I going an hour and 20 minutes talking about targets here. Sickos.
Starting point is 01:21:44 It's absolute sick stuff. Oh, we got some breaking news on the show, Theo. Okay. So we get Christian Watson just gets a $110 million contract that includes a $31 million dollar contract that includes a $31 million dollar. signing bonus. The price of the brick is going up, guys. Make sure you get your Christian Watson bags right now. Watson has been a player that I talked about as Dynasty Trade Target all offseason long, been drafting him a ton. Sixth round pick. That number might come up a little bit. Green Bay is telling you that he's a number one wide receiver. And they're also telling you
Starting point is 01:22:14 that they're pretty optimistic about his health right now. That tells me a lot. Yeah. I think he's got it figured out, especially last year, proved that he was healthy. Wide receiver 30 and 80P is going up. I have him closer to a top 24 wide receiver in my ranks. And I think I think we're going to kind of see the market start to trend that way, especially since he, yeah, he just got the bag. Okay, so let's go back to the big board here. We're going to start ripping through some of these teams so we can actually get this show done. Let's go with Chicago Bears because this warrants some discussion. I think because of the like the foot stuff with Roma Dunzee not being that great right now. I was already on Colston Loveland and Luther Burden and I think Adunze is a three.
Starting point is 01:22:57 And I think like people are going to hate me saying that. And I know there's a lot of Roma Dunzee enthusiasm internally at fantasy points, but I'm on the, give me the year two guys. Give me Loveland. Give me Burden. Give me Loveland as a possible league winner at the tight end position and give me burden as a massive year to breakout. Your thoughts on this one? I think Loveland leads this team in targets. which is scary. Then you're talking about a league winner. Bro.
Starting point is 01:23:24 I think Ben Johnson figured it out at the end of last year. The offense flowed through him. And yeah, Roma Dunez was hurt. Luther Burton, you know, kind of was emerging, wasn't really a full-time player even then. But Loveland was pushing like 30% first-free target shares at the end of last season consistently. And when you do that at tight end,
Starting point is 01:23:47 yeah, you're talking about league winner and not just league winner, but like, yeah, top three tight end. That's where he's going in ADP. I think it's clear that, you know, in my mind, Bowers is actually in a tier of his own. We haven't talked to Raiders too much, but Bowers is actually in a tier of his own. I think it's a little closer for Cardinals this year for McBride. And then Loveland, he's a little closer to McBride than maybe most people have it. In my mind, I just think, you know, Loveland is not necessarily just a tight end.
Starting point is 01:24:17 he moves like a receiver. He's got the run after catchability like a receiver. And then, yeah, the volume at the end of last year was fully there. He's going to be a full-time player. That won't be a problem like last year. He's not going to be, you know, battling with Cole Comett, like early in the season like he was last year. It's wheels up on Colson Loveland. I have him as clearly the most valuable Bears receiver this year.
Starting point is 01:24:39 And then the second target to me, yeah, it was going to be Rome-Madunezay, actually. But, yeah, this foot injury is legitimately scary for him. He's saying it's like the new normal. He's kind of trying to get used to his body again. Doesn't sound super positive. And then they've got this like kind of freak, you know, yards after catch, just jukebox machine and Luther Burden that Ben Johnson can scheme up a bunch of targets to.
Starting point is 01:25:05 I just love Colston Loveland. Maybe I'm biased towards him because I loved him coming out, loved him last year. I'm going to draft a ton this year. But I see a full breakout. just like the markets do, but I think he's an awesome pick in the fourth round. I think if you start your draft with a couple running backs, one receiver or vice versa, come back at Loveland in the fourth round. It just fits so well.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Yeah, I think Loveland, I took him at the 207 in an FFPC slow main event that I'm in with Dan Williamson right now. Scott Barrett and I took him at the end of the second round in a 350 that we did over at FFPC. I think you can find value with Loveland on like NFFC formats, underdog formats right now. FFPC, he's steamed way up. I think he's a real threat. If there's going to be a non-Brock Bauer's Trey McBride, Tide, N1 overall, it's absolutely Loveland. And it's a weird year where a lot of times drafting the tight end two, tight end three is a really bad bet for us to make historically. But this year it feels like a huge edge to get Colson Loveland in that range. Awesome player. And he was
Starting point is 01:26:12 out targeting all the wide receivers down the stretch, double digit targets every week. So if Loveland ends up getting 140 targets, 135 targets this year, that would be absolutely terrifying if you didn't draft him because that guys could end up just crushing you. I mean, he had, so he had 17% or more targets in eight of his five, eight straight games, no DJ more. Dude, I'm just, I just see like clear wheels up situation. I do think it's going to be pretty close between Oduonze and Burden. But I think for fantasy, just strictly for fantasy in the way we play our game,
Starting point is 01:26:50 I think Burden's going to be slightly more valuable just because of the value, like, where he gets his targets, Adunzee probably, you know, the downfield threat. And we've got to see Caleb Williams, you know, improve his accuracy throwing down the field. He's got to get more consistent throwing down the field. And to me, I think, you know, Loveland and Burden are probably just a little more insulated from that perspective. Let's go with the Las Vegas Raiders next because this is clear as day. Brock Bowers will lead them in targets. Brock Bowers is set to smash this year.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Number two target is interesting. I do think that Ashton Genti has a really high pass catching upside potentially this year. We saw him at like 55 receptions last year. Could he be a 70 plus reception guy this year? If so, he's a fantastic pick because I think the rushing production and the efficiency is going to be a lot better. Clint Kubi-X scheme is fantastic. Do you want to stand for any of these wide receivers if you want to push one into number two target territory?
Starting point is 01:27:46 No, and I think this is kind of the same thing as the Breece Hall discussion earlier. I think it very well could be Janicey. I don't know if we're going to necessarily project it to be that way, but Janice was seventh among all running backs and targets last year. Certainly didn't feel that way. I had a lot of Ash and Jancy was very wrong about that one. I'm going to be running it back this year, though.
Starting point is 01:28:04 I mean, obviously the quarterback room is way better. the offensive line is significantly better. I mean, Colt Miller is a real, he's awesome, like a legitimate difference maker. Getting him healthy is going to be great for the Raiders. I don't know if I'm projecting it this way. I think it'll be really close between, you know, their secondary receivers and Tucker. I think it will be Trey Tucker, but he's never really been a target earner either. So maybe, yeah, I'm talking myself back into actually, Jane's doing the Breece Hall thing where he gets like 70, 80 targets.
Starting point is 01:28:33 So maybe maybe that's the call here, man. I think that that actually might be the call. Yeah, I think that like Genti's expensive is the one thing. Like, it's Genti versus like guys like Amman Ross St. Brown, potentially Genti versus Christian McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor. Like, Gentie, it's not going to end up being Gentie versus like Devon A. Chan in round two. It's going to be Gentie versus these really strong options in round one. That's the only issue with Gentie.
Starting point is 01:29:03 do you think Gentie has the ability to provide huge win rates at like the 109? That's the tricky part. That's the question. Yeah, that's the tricky part. I think everybody's drafting him to that projection. It's just, yeah, I question that just because this Raiders team is still going to be pretty bad. You know, they're going to be in some really bad negative game scripts for sure. This defense is going to struggle.
Starting point is 01:29:29 You know, I know they kind of got Crosby back, even though they didn't necessarily want. on them, but I think the floor for Jay-T could be a lot higher this year, right? Like, he had the big spiked weeks in a few games where the Raiders were favored last year, and they just had, like, clearly good game script and Janty smashed. I think the floor will be a little higher just because the quarterbacks are a lot better this year. But, yeah, I'm with you. I question the upside of that pick, too.
Starting point is 01:29:53 It does feel like there's not a whole lot of value left in that 109. Let's go Baltimore Ravens, and I feel like this one takes about 30 seconds, Graham, unless you want to go long on it. My guy, Zay Flowers, the number one target easily. I think he could absolute smash this year. I think he's going to end up being a wide receiver one. And old man, Mark Andrews right now, looks like the number two target on this team based on it's Tess Walker, Rashad Bateman, Elijah Sarat, Jacoby Lane, like a lot of like younger wide receivers. Plus, Rashad Bateman is now a veteran at this point.
Starting point is 01:30:27 But these guys are all non-factors in the, in like the fantasy football, like weekly. starter game, but Mandrews could be interesting. So Flowers foregone conclusion to lead the team and targets, enthusiasm level for Mandrews right now, Graham. Yeah, I'm back in. I was kind of out last year. I'm back in. No, Isaiah likely. I still don't know if he's going to be like a full-time player. They've kind of done this weird thing with him the last couple years where they give him a little bit of a break. But yeah, the touchdown upside's still clear. And I think he's, you know, clearly like a back-in, tied-in one for this season and going to be the second target on this team. Let's throw the Cleveland Browns up on the screen. Right now, Harold Fanon Jr. led them in targets
Starting point is 01:31:10 last year. I've talked about Harold Fanon Jr. how he's got much more, he's got much improved teammate target competition at the wide receiver position, especially with Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston, lack of clarity at the quarterback position. But even when you throw out a bunch of red flags, Fanon would still be my bet to be the leading target earner and the highest, you know, probably the probably leads him in, could lead him in receiving yards again as well. Like Fanon's really, really good. And I think his weekly usage will be consistent. But my only question to you would be, you have to use like a tight end five, tight end six price tag for him.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Does he warrant that when you look at the opportunity cost of some of the wide receivers, running backs going around him? That is a good question. I think for FFPC leagues, I would say no. I think in just your typical one tight-in leagues where he's going, I think he's fine. Tide-in does feel a little, dare I say, it feels deeper than most years. I feel like we say that every year and it never is. No, this year it's right.
Starting point is 01:32:13 It's a changing, yeah, it's a really fun year for Tideon. It is. Yeah, I'm with you. I think it is. I think Fannin starts that second tier off, but it's, there's some players in that are going behind him that I think are close. I think Fandand still leads this team of targets, but yeah, the, the, Jerry Judy versus Concepcion versus Boston debate is,
Starting point is 01:32:32 is legitimately really close. I'm on Concepcion, man. I think he gets a ton of the design targets with Todd Monkin. I think he gets a lot of the like screen, shallow area looks. And for PPR, like, that's awesome. We love, we love that. You know, Deshawn Watson is going to start the, you know, we'll see how that goes after he's not played football coming off two Achilles
Starting point is 01:32:54 tears. You know, to me, the quarterback is just way more of the question here. because Cleveland, dude, they're building something awesome here. They've just, you know, quarterback is a big question this year and next year. But I think Concepcion, my bet is on him to be the secondary target on this team. Shout out to Derek Brown. Dibro is in the chat. D'Brow is going to be on with me one of these days upcoming.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Brett Whitefield also will be going to have both those guys. Jared Smola also joining next week. Scott Barrett and I look for that early next week. So we're going to continue having awesome guests like Graham. each and every morning here on fantasy points. Let's go Pittsburgh Steelers. I agree with you, by the way. I'm team Casey Concepcion.
Starting point is 01:33:35 So Fanon and Concepcion were locked in. Pittsburgh, this is interesting because it's going to be D.K. Metcalf and Michael Pittman, Jr. as the two leading target earners on this team. Jalen Warren also is sneaky one to get a lot of those vacated Kenneth Gainwell targets. Warren is in good shape. I think he's fine. But Pittman versus Metcalfe. I like Michael Pittman to lead this team in targets and I'm able to get him at a cheaper
Starting point is 01:34:02 ADP cost than DK Metcalf. Where are you out on that one? I totally agree. I think Pittman fits twofold. He fits with McCarthy kind of West Coast offense better than Metcalf does. I think he fits what Aaron Rogers is currently much better, just kind of RPO, quick throws. I'll be honest with you, man.
Starting point is 01:34:21 You and I talked about Warren and Rico and our backfield breakdown a couple weeks ago. And I'm with you. I think both of them are two. cheap. I'm kind of out on this passing game. Aaron Rogers just scares the crap out of me, man. Last two combined years, he is dead last in completion rate over expectation. The average death target has just completely plummeted. You know, it's the thing that kind of killed Metcalfe last year, right? Like, you know, you look at DK Metcalf's numbers throughout his career, incredible against man coverage. Then he plays with Aaron Rogers for one season and he can't
Starting point is 01:34:53 beat man coverage anymore. And yeah, maybe he's lost a step. Sure. I could buy that. But to me, it's the quarterback really limiting this offense. And Pittman's like the only guy who consistently wins in that kind of like shallow area of the field. So I'm out on Pittman and Metcalf really just out on this passing game. But Pittman, to me, yeah, clearly the lead target pet. Yeah. So for me, it's, and I'm not saying like I love, I love Pittman. If I had to take him in the sixth round, like I'm not into it.
Starting point is 01:35:23 But you're able to get Pittman like in like the eighth, ninth round. I feel like he could end up being a like a wide receiver three flex type play for you. For sure. And give you a little bit of utility. So I think we're in lockstep on that one. I think the basic takeaway is don't draft D.K. Mekap where he's going because you can get a cheaper access to this offense. If you want to chase pass catcher, Michael Pittman, I think they would like a lot internally. It's just an easier bet for my opinion to pay the cheaper price.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Right. I mean, with Rogers, it's like, you know, he's got the low A dot and he's got a low completion rate over X. It's like, man, like usually you want the low A-DOT guys to have the really high completion rate. It's kind of like, you know, Jared Goff or even Tua in some of his best years. Not the case with Rogers, man. I think it's over for him. Let's go with Houston, Texas. Well, let's go with the Texans.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Nico Collins, easy as it gets. And my number two target earner on this team that I'm betting on is Jaden Higgins, who I think is a good value where he's going in all formats. Your thoughts on this one, do you care to stand for anybody else? else on this team. I don't. And I like your Jaden Higgins call. I think he's a really underrated pick right now. C.J. Stroud, I still have lots of question marks about him and his play. But Higgins looks the part to me. Brett Whitefield was kind of calling him a Nico Collins, like kind of clone-ish. It's kind of funny they've got these two towers outside. But
Starting point is 01:36:45 classic rookie wide receiver, man. Last year, first eight weeks does absolutely nothing, then kind of comes on in that second half for some big plays and some much needed. consistency from that second receiver spot that the Texans have, you know, kind of just, I mean, it's been a carousel after Tank Dell got hurt and Stefan Diggs moved on and got hurt as well. So I'm with you. I like Jaden Higgins quite a bit. I think he's got some underrated upside for sure and certainly has some, you know, if Nico Collins were to get hurt, he certainly has some contingent the upside as well. Let's go with, I think it's pretty cut and dry. And Higgins also, like, just to reiterate, it's a year two breakout candidate that's cheap.
Starting point is 01:37:26 A lot of times we like finding these year two breakout guys that are in the double digit round. So if you're on Matthew Golden, interesting value there. And certainly Jaden Higgins as well, he falls in some drafts. Some drafts you're seeing him in like the 12th round in these managed leagues. So interesting player there. Year two reminds me a little bit of Cortland Sutton year two. If anybody kind of, you know, aging myself on that one, McCourtland Sutton year two. If you remember that one a little bit under the radar, he ends up hitting in a major way,
Starting point is 01:37:52 ended up being the number one on his team, whereas Higgins will be the, the two, but if the pass volume's a little bit better, I think that we could support a secondary pass catcher here. David Montgomery is going to be utilized a ton, though, is one little caveat. Let's talk about the Indianapolis Colts. This is an interesting one, because my bet to lead them in targets this year is Tyler Warren at the tight end position. So we talk about tight end and finding value. Tight end four for Tyler Warren, but I'm not afraid of paying the price tag. Your thoughts on this one. It's close between Warren Downs and Pierce by our projections. I mean, we literally have them all three within one target of each other. I think Warren probably gets this like more of
Starting point is 01:38:35 the schemed like shallow area looks, which definitely hurts Josh Downs's potential and potential upside for sure. Just you can't have two players kind of in that same, that same area. I'm with you that Warren leads the team of targets, but I do think it's legitimately close between Downs and Pierce. And I know Pierce just got the bag, but he's always kind of been just a, low-er volume deep threat never really been like a massive massive target earner and i do think he has a career high in targets this year but even in his breakout last year man just 84 targets we're pushing them closer to 100 targets this year so we do expect the volume to significantly rise with no michael pitman uh but yeah i mean on a per route basis he's never really been like a high
Starting point is 01:39:16 high target earner and it's simply just because of his role right is the deep threat so maybe there's some you know a little bit of room for him to grow uh his skill set just 26 as more of an intermediate and short area threat but they've got two great ones in downs and in downs and Warren so uh Warren leads the team in targets but I do think it's legitimately close between downs and Pearson hey we're going to get Josh Downs playing in 12 personnel man they've got no one else to play in 12 I don't think they're going to play like a Nick Westbrook or Ashton Doolin over him so we'll get Downs in a full-time role which will be nice that's uh that's exciting at least yeah you know Alec Pierce people might like say you know a hundred
Starting point is 01:39:54 But I think if you're wrong on that one and we can get Alec Pearson to like a hundred and 15 target range with the way he plays, I think that's really, really fun. If he gets 115 targets, man, he's going to go for like 1,200 yards. Like, there we go. Yeah. There we go. So I, I'm still, I think, a little bit more enthusiastic about Alec Pearson, than some people at fantasy points. I do understand the allure of Josh Downs. I think Josh Downs, it's like another post-type sleeper type guy where we saw how effective Josh Downs was in 2024.
Starting point is 01:40:24 you know, and now a chance to sort of bounce back in 2026 in a major way. So they're an interesting team. This is a little bit, a team that people are sleeping on a little bit. The offense was really, really good to start the year. Daniel Jones being very disrespected at ADP right now. He was giving you QB1 numbers. Now you're able to get him in like the bottom of the barrel, QB2 range, sometimes QB3 in some of these best ball draft.
Starting point is 01:40:46 So they're an offense to keep an eye on throughout the rest of the off season. Let's go L.A. Chargers, a team that everybody loves this year. and a team that everybody wants access to. But when we're trying to identify who's going to be the number one and number two target, it gets a little interesting. Ladd-McConkie, if he stays healthy, is going to lead this team in targets. Ladd had a really disappointing year. You talk about BTJ.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Lad was one of the worst picks you could have made, along with BTJ last year at the wide receiver position, has a chance to redeem himself. I know that Ryan Heath is really high on him. Scott Barrett's really high on him. I'm taking him at cost. I took him at the late fourth round in FFPC league, but I'm not like pushing him up and up and up.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Where are you at quickly on Ladd? Yeah, he goes in the fourth round and half point PPR underdog leagues, which I think is kind of crazy. If full PPR, I think Ladd is awesome. But I think this is going to be a lot more run-heavy offense than people want it to be. I think Herbert is going to have a spiked year in his efficiency, which will certainly help the receivers and it will carry over to the receivers.
Starting point is 01:41:53 But volume-wise, I think we're going to be left wanting a lot for Ladd. You know, last year, I mean, he was, you know, 1A, 1B, sometimes even just the two or the three of the offense over, you know, behind Quentin Johnston. Yeah, I question the mass target earning upside here. That's my thing. And when I'm drafting a receiver in the fourth round, Theo, like I either want them to have like huge spike week potential,
Starting point is 01:42:18 that's Jameson Williams, or I want them to like legitimately have a chance for 140 targets. And to me, I don't know if I see that with Ladd, like, especially with the way I think they want this offense to be, a lot more balanced, a lot more play action, get their, you know, their two big offensive linemenback and Alton Slater. Defense was really freaking good last year, like very underratedly good. The run defense kind of stunk, but their past defense really didn't give up much. Yeah, man, I just questioned the upside with Lad. I think he's fine in PPR where he's going. But in half on Underdog, man.
Starting point is 01:42:53 It's just, it's tricky. I don't know if I see a whole lot of upside with that pick. And I was, I was off on Ladd last year. I was maybe the only one on the site who was pushing back on the Ladd steam. I thought I might be in this year just because I have so much respect for Mike McDaniel. But fourth round is, I thought we might be getting a little better price tag. I mean, like you just said, BTJ busted in the very similar way to Lad, but we're getting him three rounds later. And BTJ and BTJ was drafted ahead of LAD last year.
Starting point is 01:43:21 So it's like, yeah, if we're going back to our process, is coming off of their rookie year. Like the thing with Ladd is it's the Mike McDaniel effect in a major way. And you're seeing a lot of really, really sharp people, a lot of very analytical thinkers, really backing the Lad to comeback tour here. You know, Ryan laid out a real bull case for this. But I agree with you. It's sort of like, where's, what's the target ceiling?
Starting point is 01:43:45 Is he going to get to 140, 150? I don't think any chance he's going to get there. So I get it. Ladd McConkey. it's very, very appealing. We've seen what he can do. We all remember like that playoff game where he went absolutely bonkers
Starting point is 01:44:00 against the Houston Texans. But like last year, the entire stretch run, it was like two out of eight usable weeks. And the whole caveat that if Keenan Allen signs, people are going to backtrack. And I get it. Keenan Allen's Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 01:44:16 He's a Hall of Famer, but a 33-year-old is going to affect your take on Ladd McConkey, then you maybe should probably not be as bullish in the first place. That's what I'm saying. The profile is just a lot more fragile than I think a lot of people. Yeah, I think you and I agree. And then QJ, who is very appealing click at wide receiver 42 on underdog.
Starting point is 01:44:37 QJ was good last year. He had eight touchdown grabs. They had eight touchdown grabs the year before. We heard Mike McDaniel mentioned the words, Andre Johnson and Julio Jones, what he's talking about, QJ physically. Like, come on, man. And then we got Trey Harris, a year two player that the organization is very enthusiastic about.
Starting point is 01:44:57 They used a day two pick on him last year. Then you got a Ronde Gadsden who is like now down at tight end 16 on underdog. I want to click the button on all three of these guys. I think all three of these guys in best ball makes sense as picks. But who is the one that you want to bet on if you're going to say one of these guys is very good in redraft this year at cost? and help fantasy managers win. Omar and Hampton. Okay, but you can't not for this.
Starting point is 01:45:26 No, I know, I know. I'm just joking with you. I honestly, it would probably be lad. I think he probably has the high floor, but you're spending a fourth-upon- A secondary target. Is there a secondary target that interests you? No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Yeah, QJ to me, I think he could get blocked by Trey Harris. They love Trey Harris as a blocker. Trey Harris is going to play a lot more than people want him to. He did last year. He's going to play in 12 personnel just because they love him as a blocker. QJ is just, you know, he's just a complete roller coaster man, full best ball pick only. And then they're tight ends. Like, it's not a good sign that David and Joku's signing for like a very, very small one-year
Starting point is 01:46:03 deal. He could be, he's had some ankle injuries that really could have robbed him. So maybe there's a little bit of underrated upside with Ronde Gadsden. But both those guys could cannibalize each other too. I, in my opinion, I really just want Hampton, Herbert. And that's kind of, that's kind of where I'm at. this team right now. I think we've done all but one team. I think we're at the who do we leave out. Who do we leave out? The New York Giants. So okay I think this is a good opportunity. Again,
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Starting point is 01:47:20 you win a Scott Fishbowl entry. There you go. So two hours in, I'm almost blacking out here, Graham. We got our final team here. We'll talk about it. Malik Neighbors would be the surefire target leader. Any game he's playing. And his target share would probably be north of 30% based on the guys around him.
Starting point is 01:47:40 But the vibes that are terrible right now in terms of his health. If you want to go on a per game basis, though, he's like the surefire targets per game leader. But I think there's a chance that Isaiah likely could lead this team in targets this year, because I think Malik Neighbors might miss six games. Is that too bullish? No, I think Neighbors missing time is a given at this point. You know, I don't know if we're going to project him to start the year on PUP, but he very might well start that way, and especially since he's had a, you know, how to setback. I just got to push back on the Isaiah likely thing. Yeah. Yeah. John Harbaugh brought him over, you know, but he's, dude, he's never been a full-time player.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Like, basically never. And they have Theo Johnson there, who I know is just like not, not anything spectacular as a receiver, but he's going to play in line. Isaiah likely, to this point, has also never really been a target earner. A lot of his stuff in terms of where he won with the Ravens, it was either like dump and run underneath with Lamar or the second reaction stuff down the field with Lamar. So I have legitimate questions about his target earning potential, which brings me back to this offense as a whole. Like if neighbors does miss six games and it's like Darius Slayton and Isaiah likely and Darnel Mooney leading this team in targets,
Starting point is 01:49:03 like this is going to be an extremely run heavy team, especially if Scataboo is fully healthy. And I think that leaves us with like potentially just like nothing for fantasy at the receiver room. Um, likely if he does play full time gets up to 70 to 80% then yeah, you're probably right. He does lead the steam of targets. But I question that too. Um, there is certainly a lot of targets in that middle of the field open though Theo with no Wondell Robinson.
Starting point is 01:49:29 That is a hundred percent for sure. Yeah. And again, like Brett Whitefield talking about likely is a dump and run tight end who performed well with Lamaro scramble drill. But like the off script stuff is going to be there with Jackson Dart as well. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:43 No, it will. Yeah. Yeah, so I think likely, like a lot of the beat reporters are basically insinuating. They think likely could lead this team in targets. I think it was Jordan Renan yesterday. He talked about how highly targeted he was during OTAs and how he's sort of his pick to lead this team in targets. And we talk, we know that like John Harbaugh has loved Isaiah likely. I talked about how his goal for him was to be an all pro player.
Starting point is 01:50:09 I think the succession plan was there. and then Isaiah likely got banged up. And then they paid Mark Andrews and the team moved off of him. But what does Harbaugh do? He brings Patrick Ricard over with him, the fullback. And then he brings Isaiah likely over to him. And there was a huge market for Isaiah likely in free agency. That was like the free agent tight end domino to fall before guys like Chigacanquo
Starting point is 01:50:32 went out and signed and likely chose this pathway. So I think this is going to be a much bigger opportunity than we ever saw from likely. We've seen likely pop when given the opportunity. And I think this is a player that can thrive in this sort of scheme. And I think this role will be beneficial to him. And I think when Malik neighbors returns from injury, likely will settle in as the number two target because, and Brett, again, Brett Whitefield talking about, you know, the Jackson Dark differences. I agree, Brett, you're right on this one. But I think Isaiah likely is poised to have a career year. What could that mean for fantasy? I think that could mean 100 plus targets.
Starting point is 01:51:11 And at the tight end position, 100 plus targets is really, really good stuff. So I'm in on Isaiah likely at cost. 10th round pick on Underdog. Seventh rounder in FFPC. So probably like Underdog NFFCs a little bit easier click. But I think he's poised to have a really strong year. He's sort of going to be one. I guess I'm flag planning Isaiah likely because I talk about him every single show it feels like.
Starting point is 01:51:33 But yeah, looking forward to debating a little more Isaiah likely throughout the off season. Big shout out to Graham Barfield for sticking with me for nearly two hours. This was not by design. I saw somebody in the chat saying that they love the really long streams. I don't love the really long streams, but I do love doing the long streams with Graham Barfield because we always cover so many topics. Tomorrow I don't think we'll be going two hours, though. I'll tell you that, Graham.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Tomorrow's going to be a little bit shorter. But Graham, let everybody know what you got going on right now over at Fantasy Points. Yeah, Matt's saying it separates the week from the chat. I agree, these long shows do. I'm with you. I typically like to do like the 90 minutes. Yeah, no, I like, well, you and I always get into the weeds.
Starting point is 01:52:15 I love that. I like 45. Yeah, I like 45 minutes. But I, but when we do this stuff, we covered 32 teams. It's impossible for us to do this in 45 minutes. So we tried to be quick, but we also want to be right.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Hopefully this show helps you win in fantasy football. Another thing's going to help you win in fantasy football is Graham Barfield's articles over at fantasy points. Absolute fire. Start sit stuff in season. Graham is the best in the business. Make sure you subscribe to Fantasy Points. Get access to Graham's work as well as myself.
Starting point is 01:52:45 All my Dynasty rankings are up there. Isaiah likely got him pretty high up in the Dynasty rankings right now, guys. And we're going to be back here tomorrow. Dropping a bonus show at some point. That's also going to be dropping on the YouTube stream. So if you're listening to the podcast, make sure you also go check out the YouTube stream. And check out Dynasty Life, my Dynasty podcast. School of Scott.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Scott Barrett and I went with a long one yesterday. We're everywhere here. Again, Brett Whitefield is going to be on soon. Jared Smoll is going to be on soon. Derek Brown is going to be on soon. Bringing in the guests and drop in fire content that's going to help you win in fantasy. We'll see you soon.

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