Fantasy Football Daily - Fantasy Football Week 5 Start/Sit Advice, Bold Trade Targets & Injury Fallout | 2025

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

Use code SCOREMORE10 at checkout for 10% OFF any subscription. Dominate your league. Win more bets. Level up your game On this aggressive, no-nonsense episode of Fantasy Football Daily, Theo Gremminger and Graham Barfield rip through the Week 5 chaos six teams on bye, injuries everywhere, and fantasy managers scrambling for answers. The duo spotlights Woody Marks and Xavier Worthy as must-starts, torches underperformers like Tee Higgins and T.J. Hockenson, and warns against trusting the Eagles’ WRs. You’ll get sharp, actionable start/sit advice, bold trade strategies, and clear guidance on risky plays to avoid. If you’re not ready to pivot and exploit the week’s matchups, you’re already behind this episode pulls no punches and arms you with the edge to win Week 5. Where to find us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://twitter.com/TheOGFantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://twitter.com/⁠⁠GrahamBarfield⁠⁠⁠ Join the Discord here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/discord#/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to Fantasy Points for FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Transcription Here: https://podsqueeze.com/embedded/transcript/FYKM3abXjrPpr24dgqw9Uv Fantasy Points Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ NEW! Data Suite - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://data.fantasypoints.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/FantasyPts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fantasypts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ #FantasyFootball #2025Rankings #FantasyFootballAdvice #NFL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Which players should you sit? Which players should you start? Which players should you put in your flex? Which players are we trusting and which players are we not trusting at this point in the year? Theo Greminger with Graham Barfield, Fantasy Football Daily on the Fantasy Points Podcast Network and Fantasy Points YouTube. Graham, this is an ugly week. You have six teams on by.

You have another few players who are now injured. for the season, including Malik Neighbors, Tyree Kill. This is getting ugly. This is going to be a replacement's week. It's a weird week. Let's start off right at the top. Let's talk about Woody Marks. Woody Marks had his big breakout performance last week.

Marks, of course, had that incredible two-way ability on display, had a rushing score, also had a receiving score. And the volume was very productive as well. 17 carries and five targets. He caught four of them for 50 yards and a touchdown. But the 17 carries to me was really the big positive. We liked him coming out of USC, but I didn't really anticipate he'd be somebody

that would be getting close to 20 carries in a game. We've seen this big performance. Houston goes to one in three on the season after beating Tennessee. Is Woody Marks a must-start player for fantasy managers this week in week five, Baltimore this week, Graham. Yeah, he's one of the best RB2 plays on this slate. And it just keeps getting better and better for him, right?

Like you kind of, you nailed the usage was amazing. Snaps have come up in four games. But this spot is looking really nice. I mean, Lamar Jackson is going to miss. The Ravens are implied to score like 19 and a half points this week. It's fourth fewest. So yeah, I mean, they're going to catch, you know, kind of sliding Ravens team that's playing really bad run defense right now.

Last three weeks, Theo, they've given up 5.1 yards. per carry. So, yeah, Marx is locked in, RB2. Good on you if you stashed him, drafted him late. He looks awesome. And I mean, Joe Mixen doesn't seem like he's going to play this season at this point. He's done basically nothing. So we'll see when they get Mixing back. But I mean, yeah, I'd fully expect Marks to continue to Ether Chub. And the other thing, Theo, is like, they're not doing the Dari Ogun-Bawahle nonsense anymore. It's all marks on passing down, which is also huge. Yeah, and the five targets is something that I think is very, very sustainable for Marx. Just to put it in perspective, would you rather start Woody Marks this week or Tony Pollard?

Marks. I mean, Marks was RB9 by XFP. I think Tai J. Spears will be back this week, too. That's an interesting one for sure for the Pollard usage. Woody Marks or Derek Henry. Oh, man, I can't. I can't. I'm not there yet. But, man, it's, I mean, this is what with Henry. This is what Scott and I've been talking about. about with this guy forever. It's like he is the RB1 when the, you know, like his team wins, but like a low end RB2 and losses. And like I was saying, yeah, Ravens are dogs in the spot with no Lamar. Yeah. And Derek Henry, the other Scott Barrett tweet that he always loves to drop about this time of the year is how Henry's production trends up in October. Henry's production trends up in November. So we'll see if that's still the case at his age.

but yeah, Woody Marks, I think, breaking ties with Marks versus a lot of other players. And when we think about these rookie backs with past catching ability, a lot of times we think of them as these dynamic talents and guys that could have these ceilings. But when it comes to Marks, I actually think he's got a pretty safe floor moving forward because the lack of weapons on Houston, the confidence level of the coaching staff showed in him this past week. And the floor he's going to have as a receiver, Because again, they don't have an established wide receiver two right now.

Dalton Schultz is getting about all he can handle. He's got six targets back-to-back weeks. You want to get the ball in Woody Marks's hands. He's also a little bit of an older rookie. He's like 24 years old. So it's not a guy that we worry about being able to like rise up. He's pretty much a grown-ass man at this point. So Woody Marks, I agree with you, a ton of confidence there.

Last week we saw the return of Chris Godwin. What are fantasy managers supposed to do with him this week? Yeah, the box score obviously wasn't great. I just had the three catches for 26 yards, but I mean, full-time role, 86% route chair coming back from his first game, you know, in basically nearly a full count of year. I think it was like 11 months. But yeah, I mean, huge role, 25% of the first reads.

He had like a, you know, wide receiver 2-ish role by expected fantasy points. I think the big thing, though, is like his separation skills were really good. Posted like top 12 figures on the week by separation score by win rate. You love to see that, obviously. Seattle has not been like super great against slot receivers this year. They've kind of been like a slot funnel where their perimeter corners are playing really well. It's forcing everything to the middle of the field because they play so much too high. And yeah, decent spot.

Seattle's given up like the sixth, seventh most yards per game to slot receivers. It's a pretty good spot for Godwin. I think he's firmly back in like the circle of trust already just based off this volume. Yeah, I'm with you. And I think it's a Buka as the wide receiver won there, but Godwin safely as the wide receiver too. Be interested to see how this thing shakes out before Mike Evans returns. Notably, Tampa Bay did not put Mike Evans on the injured reserve as we maybe thought would happen.

So this could be a pretty quick ramp up, a little quicker than we anticipated when it comes to Evans. The other thing we want to circle is if you are tracking the Tampa Bay game, make sure you're keeping an eye on this running back situation. Graham and I are recording this on Wednesday. so we could have some Bucky Irving news at any moment, but it sounds like it could possibly be a Rashad White game. I wonder if that's going to funnel any more touches or, excuse me, targets to the wide receivers.

White, of course, would probably be somewhat of a like-for-like replacement for for Irving, certainly in the receiving department. Maybe we'd also see some touches for Sean Tucker, but I think that would be bode well for Godwin if Irving was going to miss. is a tough game for Tampa Bay, for sure. That Seattle defense has been a major problem for a number of teams they've faced this year. So we're going to keep an eye on that one. Let's talk about one more player who I think is back to being a really, really trustworthy player. Graham, we were sort of on an island at fantasy points. It's sort of like digging our heels in, being in the

pro Xavier Worthy crowd. There's some not necessarily haters, but there's some disbelievers in Xavier Worthy. Worthy comes back. He has a career high, regular season yardage total record for himself in his first full game played this season. Of course, he went out early in game one. And Worthy also leads Kansas City in targets, leads Kansas City, of course, in receiving yards, also leads Kansas City in rushing yardage. He gets those two manufactured rush attempts, has 38 yards on the ground. Usage was just fantastic for Xavier Worthy. Where are we valuing him?

Is he in the high-end wide receiver two category, sort of moving forward? Your thoughts unworthy this week? Yeah, I think the worthy thing was simple for me in the sense that like there's the chiefs are in like the high-end circle of trust with, you know, when it comes to pass catchers, even though Mahomes has struggled throwing deep as of late. Like he's been a little better this season.

And with Worthy, it's like he's, you know, they just desperately need this guy to get downfield, obviously, but also, like you mentioned, having the design touches just to give them some, like, run after the catch ability. You mentioned it, man. Like, he got there full, you know, 83 yards and not a full-time role. You only ran around on 63% of their past plays.

But, dude, last 11 games, I mean, he's putting up 14.6, half ppr points per game. That's wide receiver nine. That includes the postseason. You know, he had that huge Super Bowl. But, you know, he was starting to trend up at the end of last regular season. I know all of this is without Rishi Rice. and Rice really is like an awesome by low. You and I were talking about it on a rest of season show with Scott and Ryan this past week.

Rice is an awesome buy right now. But I think Worthy is too. This is a great spot for him too. I mean, Jacksonville allows the fifth most yards per game to opposing outside wide receivers. They've given up, you know, plenty of deep plays. They gave a big deep play to Nico Collins a couple weeks ago. I like this a lot for Worthy this week. He's like, he should be a borderline wide receiver one, I think, on this slate because it's

it's so bearing a receiver man. Yeah, I'm with you. Jacksonville is also three and one. This is a huge, huge game for both Jacksonville and Kansas City. Kansas City has a chance to push their record to three and two. If Jacksonville can also make a statement against Kansas City and push their record to four and one, this is a really, really fun one. For me, I'm just leaning towards starting Kansas City receivers rest of season because I'm in on Patrick Mahomes and this offense being very, very pass happy.

I think it's Xavier Worthy. And I actually think Xavier Worthy, I agree with you, he's a great, great buy. Because even though the production is strong there, I think there's a little bit of market apprehension with a lot of the same Xavier Worthy faders are saying that he'll sort of go into a shell when Rashi Rice returns.

Not so sure about that. We're not really calculating for worthy, sort of establishing himself the next few weeks. We're also not accounting for maybe Rashi Rice needs a game or two to really ramp himself up. So I'm very much in on Rashi Rice, but I also think Xavier Worthy, and I think the second half of the year that Kansas City Chiefs passing game could just be humming. Patrick Mahomes could be a guy that every single week we're talking about like a top five starter rest of season when we get to like

week eight and they're both comfortably in there. So start Xavier Worthy every single week. Let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we're talking about a couple of players that you should be sitting this week and a couple of studs who are off to very slow. starts, what should we do with them right after this? Welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily, Theo Greminger with Graham Barfield. If you want access to all of our amazing projections, all of our amazing tools, all of our incredible articles, including my articles, Graham's articles, Ryan Heese, Scott Barrett's, etc. Subscribe to Fantasy Points. Use the code Theo and get 15% off any single fantasy points package. And if you want to really level your game up, consider a subscription to

fantasy points data suite, the best source of statistics and analytics anywhere in fantasy football. Graham, let's talk about it, got a couple of ugly sits. I mean, what a difference a year makes. I had a league where I literally needed like just a few points out of Chase Brown and Jamar Chase heading into the fourth quarter. And I end up losing the matchup. It was a dynasty team that last year cashed majorly, won the league easily. This year my team is 0 and 4.

Chase and Jamar Chase, Chase, Chase Brown, C.D. Lamb. It's just Joe Burrow, a murderer's row of injuries and bad things have happened. But it was almost comical not getting that win. You can't trust any Cincinnati Bengal right now with Jake Browning. Of course, we're starting Jamar Chase. We're not going to go there. But are we starting T. Higgins, a guy that we were drafting as a high-end wide receiver two at the end of August. Is he in our lineups or not this week? Yeah, this is just painful, man. and just it's basically like worst case scenario for browning like you know i think we kind of got a little fool a little bit fooled by that small sample when he filled in for borough for what was it

like eight or nine games yeah um yeah this offense is like non-functional they like gave up in the second half against the broncos too the one thing that chase has going for man is like he's still averaging like nine targets per game and you know chase on nine targets per game is going to have some explosion games the problem is like these two receivers have played basically five and a half games with Browning. And, you know, Higgins is like at 5.1 targets per game. That's like wide receiver 40-ish. Yeah, it's brutal for Higgins.

I'm going to list him as a sit this week. I listed Chase Brown as a sit last week. I still thought that, you know, maybe with CERTAN on Chase, there's a chance that Higgins would, you know, make a few plays on Riley Moss. And he's just like, Browning's catchable throw rate is really, really low right now. It's scary hours for the Bengals right now, man. It sucks.

Yeah, and you hate to play sliding doors, but if the Bengals had let T. Higgins walk and the Bengals had signed a cheaper wide receiver to or just use Andre Yoshavis or something like that and use that money on the offensive line, or if they had decided to use those draft picks where Cincinnati actually used three of their first picks in the NFL draft on defensive players, if you're going to go all in on this like, hey, we're putting. putting all our money into Joe Burrow, T. Higgins, and Jamar Chase, then at least have an offensive line that can hold them up. The offensive line has just been so bad this season. Bad, or I won't say bad quarterbacks. I'll say backup quarterbacks, because not all of them are bad. Backup quarterbacks, and certainly Jake Browning is, a lot of people will say you should have just said bad.

These quarterbacks who are not starters, they can't thrive without positive offensive line play. So I think we didn't necessarily factor that in. I'll take the L for Jake Browning. I certainly have got some flack for recommending him as a waiver wire ad. But last time we saw him in a starting position in 2023, he had five QB1 weeks, four wins. But the offensive line play in 2023 was at a much higher level than anything we're seeing with Cincinnati right now.

Just quickly one more Cincinnati bangle. Chase Brown last week, at least I'll find a glimmer of hope. I'll find a little bit of positivity here. Chase Brown, the yards per carry, were a little bit. bit better and the opportunity share for Chase Brown continues to remain very, very high versus his backup running backs. The production certainly wasn't there against Denver. In a buy week, hell week, where we have six teams on by and the threat of guys like Trey Benson and Buck Irving sitting, are you considering starting Chase Brown or are you sort of like stuck starting

him? What's your confidence level for Chase Brown against Detroit this week? Yeah, same thing. I mean, it's like TD robust kind of flex play. Lions have had a good run defense again. And the other scary thing for Brown is like, yeah, the volume in terms of like the overall market share is still really good. Like they're barely playing Taj Boyd. But like, Bengals finally, you know,

boosted their pass rate back up to 8% above expectation last week. So just 10 carries for them. I kind of see a similar spot too. They're going to get, they're probably going to get waxed by the lions. Like, no doubt. Yeah. I think the hope for fantasy managers when you look at the Detroit Cincinnati game is you're

actually hoping for a lion's complete annihilation where the, and I know that's a, that's sort of sounds wrong, but if the lions have one of these classic Ben Johnson slash John Morton complete beatdowns where we see Detroit putting like 50 up, could there be a scenario where Cincinnati players just eat in garbage time or Detroit, Detroit, it's off to a wildly fast start at the end of the first half and maybe the whole second half is almost garbage time and we sort of get there that way. I think that's sort of what we're hoping for. The game's in Cincinnati, but it just feels like it's almost no hope there. Is that one that was in Detroit or in Centee? Yeah, this game's in it's in Centsy and they're still in CINC. Okay, so I was

correct on that one. But yeah, it's in CINC but it's you almost like, they have no hope, even though their home team. It's just, it's just wild times. I mean, they're 10 and a half point home dogs like it's not great and that's and that feels huge that's huge in the NFL like it feels light though it feels like so yeah uh no for sure for sure um let's keep this one going speaking of the bengals we saw bow nix and the denver broncos even out their record get that big win uh complete annihilation with with nicks and the broncos uh really really looking solid this week it gets a little more difficult for Denver. They play Philadelphia.

What is your comfort level with Bo Nix in your starting lineup? Are you finding reasons to sit him? Are you starting him? Where are you at in terms of your confidence level? This week, it's like a three or a four out of 10. Last week it was like an eight or nine. It just came down to the matchup and he smashed in a great

matchup. You know, great bounce back spot at home gets the Bengals, like you said. This week is like polar opposite. You know, Eagles pass rush has not been as great this season, but they've really done a great job limiting opposing quarterbacks, second fewest schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed. The problem is like we've been talking about,

I mean, we've got four teams on a bike. There's like 16, 17 viable quarterbacks this week. We're going to get Jay and Daniels back, which is nice, but no, Lamar. I certainly have a few teams, Theo, where like I'm probably going to be forced to play Knicks, but, yeah, like I said, it's not a high confidence level play. Yeah, I don't have confidence in it either.

the only Broncos passing game. I do have confidence in using Cortland Sutton to an extent. I think he's probably a wide receiver too still. I don't know if you caught the end of the game. It was Bo Nix and Cortland Sutton and their wives. And the wives were both wearing the, it was the Step Brothers movie poster. But instead of John C. Riley and Will Farrell,

it was Bo Nix and Cortland Sutton. I mean, the connection. Amazing. It was an amazing, incredible vibes for Sutton every single week. So I'm there. I think Knicks, the one silver lining for Nix would be we could get an occasional game where he produces with his legs and maybe the Philadelphia defense forces him to do so. And he sort of gets there.

But I'm with you. He's somewhere in that mid-level QB2 range, not necessarily a guy that we're going to push into QB1 range. Let's talk about T.J. Hawkinson. Hawkinson, it's just not happening for him this season. there was a couple of people that I know we're making the argument that Carson Wentz has this affinity for tight ends. Maybe he's going to propel Hawkinson. But it's just sort of more of the same. Hawkinson seems like a player who was very, very overdrafted.

Now we have Minnesota who is going to be down for offensive linemen. I think there's potential that the tight ends are going to have to help out and block a little bit more. Is T.J. Hawkinson, a player that you are sitting? Are you trying to put them in your starting lineup? I mean, it seems really dire this week for Hawkinson against Cleveland. Yeah, I've been writing them up as a said. I'm going to keep doing it with Hawk because like you said, it's just, yeah, for now two and half, basically his last year and a half, 12 games, he's been clearly the third, you know,

target on this Vikings team behind Jefferson and Addison. We saw it just again this past week, dude. I mean, Hawkinson's first three target share was 4%. You look at their 11 games last year. Jefferson was either 25% target share. Addison was around like 20, 21%. And then Hawkinson was like 15. That's like low, low end tight in one. And then you mix in the fact that Vikings are playing a little slower. They're more run heavy this season. I would be looking to sell on Hawkinson. I'll be honest. I've had no idea where to put Hawk in the rest of season rankings all year. I've

just kept bumping them down to like tight in 13ish now. And you know, this isn't a great bounce back spot either. Browns have a really athletic middle of the full. field giving up the fourth fewest yards per game fifth fewest schedule adjusted fantasy points per game to tight end so i'm i'm looking to sell on hock even in like tight end premium dude this is oh yeah it's this is this is a another horrible year for tight ends like there's like six or seven that matter and then you can rank the eight through 18 in basically any order and i'd probably be okay with it but yeah it's it's scary for hock right now man yeah tight end premium formats like ffpc especially in Dynasty,

Hawkinson's like an asset that seems to lose value each and every week. You kind of hope for a touchdown and then you sell. You had your opportunity like two weeks ago. Hawkinson, there's still a great deal of nostalgia when it comes to Hawkinson based on he gave us like two top three point per game finishes at the tight end position in 2022 and 2023. But this year it's just not happening.

There's been some breakdowns of like him running routes. he looks not explosive. Like it doesn't look like the same fluidity and explosiveness that we're used to with him. A lot of bad vibes when it comes to T.J. Hawkinson. And I think good vibes when it comes to Jordan Addison. I know he was caught from behind, but we saw the big production in his first week back.

And a lot of people were very upset. He didn't score that long touchdown. I could have used that touchdown myself. But he did have over 100 receiving yards his first game back. So Addison, we're trusting Jefferson is Jefferson. T.J. Hawkinson, though, I think you want to find a reason to put them on your bench. And if you're in a Reg of Graph League that has trades, Hawkinson's a great name to just throw in there in two for ones because of his name brand,

the fact that you were taking them around like the tight end five, tight end six this preseason. And in Dynasty, I think you cash out, even in tight end premium formats, try to make that Hawkinson cash out for sure. Let's talk about the Eagles. And this is really a depressing one. but Kevin Petulow is a sicko. He should be put in prison somewhere for what he's done to AJ Brown. AJ Brown, nine targets, but we only see two receptions for seven yards.

Devonta Smith as well, two targets for Devonta. Usually in games where AJ Brown struggled, like in years seasons past, we'd say, oh, Devonta must have had a decent game. This is really, really, really ugly. And Philadelphia continues to win games. meet Tampa Bay 3125, despite this complete lack of production, specifically with A.J. Brown, are you starting him or sitting him? It seems like sacrilege to even ask about this one. But A.J. Brown, you don't have any confidence right now should you find reasons to pivot,

even with all these teams on by weeks? That's the thing. It's like, it's such a thin week at receiver. I mean, he was going to project like a low end wide receiver two, maybe high in wide receiver three. but, I mean, he's catching a pass for tan shadow. You know, Devonta Smith does, like, at least have a slightly easier a matchup, getting Riley Moss and their slot corner. But, yeah, it's not my confidence level with Brown in this passing offense now is, like, two or three. You know, it started slow last year, too, and just kind of gradually ramped up.

But like you mentioned, I think this new offensive coordinator is a big step back. They're running a pretty bland offense overall in general. role. Yeah, the one thing that you can hang your hat on, though, is he's AJ Brown, and he can have one big play that saves his day. But he's, he's kind of trending towards that boom or bust, like, wide receiver two territory. And it's crazy for, like you're saying, crazy for a player of his talent level. Yeah, it's, it's like if we put AJ Brown on about 20 other teams right now, I think that this would be a completely different story. We know he's not cooked because we've seen that big spike week from him when they were trailing against the Rams and they

were forced to like take downfield shots to AJ. AJ was completely invisible in the first half and then the second half had that huge, huge week. So we know that's in the bag. If you put AJ Brown on so many teams right now, I think he would be thriving. But the offensive ecosystem in Philly is just really, really bad for skill position players. But hey, they're still winning games. Jalen Hertz is still getting rushing yardage. They're still able to run the ball and they're going to continue winning. I wonder if it's going to catch up with them, this sort of caveman approach when you get to the NFL playoffs. I know they were able to come back against L.A. and they were able to beat Tampa Bay. But there's something in the back of my mind saying, this is going to catch up with you.

You need to establish your weapons week in, week out. So we will see. Another player who was very highly drafted, drafted right about the same range as A.J. Brown. That whole second round dilemma was should you take Drake London or Ladd McConkey or A.J. Brown, Right now it looks very much like Drake London was the one, who I know the two of us were discussing all summer long. Ladd-McConkie, though, the Chargers, wide receivers are thriving. Quentin Johnston continues to put up wide receiver-one numbers.

Keenan Allen, a quiet week, but he still has five catches. Ladd-McConkey, on the other hand, only one reception on six targets. This looks really, really broken. Are you finding reasons to sit Ladd-McConkey this week? a lot of fear and trepidation in the marketplace. Chargers play the Washington commanders this week. An interesting game on paper, but specifically with Ladd, what are you doing? So I have like completely different confidence levels with Brown and McConkey.

Like these two troubled receivers. London will be fine, I think long term. Mooney picked up another injury, but like, you know, he's still like a just volume-based wide receiver two. The volume will always be good with London, I think. With McConkey, like I see major reasons to buy low. And ahead of this game, you know, like Washington has not been a very good secondary all season long. So Ladd last year averaged seven targets per game. He's at 6.8 targets per game right now.

And it's simply like he dropped a few passes last week. Chemistry has been a little off with Herbert. And I think this is like a case of not seeing the forest through the trees. Like yeah, Quentin Johnson is by far the big problem, if you want to call it a problem for McConkey. But like the chargers are still very pass-heavy. Like this is the most pass-heavy team in the league. You know, they're probably going to have to maintain it because they've lost their best tackles, obviously. They're going to probably struggle to run the ball for the majority of the season.

So they're going to have to continue to just rely on Herbert. They might play a little slower to try to grind out drives. But listen, I think, you know, McConkey's volume level is the same as it was last year. He's now catching a pretty good matchup. You know, last week was also a good matchup. But I'm still like playing McConkey as a pretty solid wide receiver too. Yeah, I think you, like, I moved McConkey down to like the flex range, but yeah, like you said, I mean, it's a guy that we're used to seeing put up spike weeks. His season high is wide receiver 24 on the week in week one.

It feels like, like you said, when you have this many people sort of beating him up, it's the time to buy. The marketplace is super, super low. I know I moved him down in my dynasty wide receiver rankings just based on this sort of production and role. and I'm sure a lot of other people did. In season long, there's probably even more fear out there, especially when you see what's going on with QJ. So I do think sending out an offer for Ladd, things could shift. And then also we have in the back of our mind,

Keenan Allen is 33 years old. Can he hold up for the entire season? If Keenan goes down, you have to think that Ladd-McConkie is going to absorb those targets himself. I'm sure a couple other guys like Arronday Gadsen, Trey Harris would be interesting if Keenan Allen went down. but it would mostly go to Ladd. They're sort of have overlapping skill sets and overlapping like first read rates when it

comes to Herbert over the last two years. So Ladd has a bunch of outs to return value this season. And one of his outs is just he's good at football. We know he's good at football. Pop the tape in from the NFL playoff record setting performance Ladd had. So he didn't forget how to play. Let's keep this one going. Let's actually, you know what?

Let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we're going to talk about how. fantasy managers can adjust to the breaking fantasy news with teams like Miami, the New York Giants and the Cleveland Browns. All right, welcome back. Fantasy Football Daily Starts, It Show, Theo Greminger and Barfield on the Fantasy Points Podcast Network. Let's talk about Darius Slayton.

We saw last year when Maloo's went down and missed some time, Slayton had a massive 26-point performance. He also had two other games with 11.5 points or more in like a one-month period. Slayton was very, very effective. Can he do it this week? And does he have season long value for fantasy managers looking to replace Malik neighbors? Yeah, I think so. I mean, two games last year that neighbors missed, like fully missed. He had a 30% target chair. Like you mentioned, had the one big game, but you know, double-digit targets in both those games, you know, produced like a pretty solid wide receiver two. Giants are going to be a lot, you know, more run heavy. I think these days

with Dart and Scataboo for sure. But, yeah, Slaten this week, I think it's a pretty good spot. This is kind of the reason we liked Keon Coleman last week, and that didn't work out so well because the bills really didn't have to throw that much. But like the Saints are an outside funnel, giving up the seventh most yards per game to outside wide receivers, good efficiency numbers of 2.7 yards per route run. Only Dallas is giving up more to outside receivers. So, yeah, I think this is a, it's a good spot for Slayton, less so for Wondale Robinson,

but do I mean Wondell for PPR can get like you know eight nine targets and have a seven catch 50 yard game and be fine be usable and how about Theo Johnson I know we're not very high on him in the rankings maybe you could take this as a do you want to cram him in your lineup this week and does he have season long viability with his new potential role with guys kind of overcompensating for losing the target monster in Malik neighbors yeah and tied in premium leagues for sure but I I struggle to see him being like a viable streamer. I think he'll be the third target on this team right now behind Slateon and Robinson. And then how about Jackson Dart? Dart last week led all quarterbacks in rushing yardage, led all quarterbacks in rush attempts, and he found the end zone, some really, really positivity with him, with his rushing ability. Now he loses neighbors. It is a really, really plus matchup. How much confidence do you have in Dart this week? Yeah, I think Dart is once again, one of the best streamers on this slate. We had some of the best streamers on this slate. some pretty good ones last week.

This is like very clearly he's the best one just because of his rushing ability. You know, he's probably picked up in a lot of leagues. But yeah, I mean, DART is like at worst, QB 15 or 16 this week. I think I'd play Knicks over him still. But yeah, he projects, he's going to project really well. And this game environment with Giants, like, I know it's kind of gross offensively. The total is not great. It's like 41.

But Saints are the fastest team in the NFL by pace, just ripping off a ton of plays. These giants picked up their pace last week, ran a little more no huddle with Dart, which was good to see. So, yeah, I think this game has some, like, shootout, like sneaky shootout potential. Yeah, and Dart has such a solid floor. I think he's going to be in that high-end QB2 discussion every single week and maybe get a chance to push himself into, like, the QB10 through 12 range if it really does take off with his legs. He has the combination of he's a very willing scrambler and the giants are going to. use design runs for him. So he's interesting. Dylan Gabriel takes over at quarterback this week for the Cleveland Browns. We know we're starting Quinchon Judkins. He's established himself.

He's an absolute beast. What does this do for the past catching weapons? Is there a lean to maybe elevate Judy? Do you think that this is a Harold Fanon? Is this a David Anjoku? Sometimes we see these rookie quarterbacks take over and they have sort of target lock on one particular receiver. Is there someone you think could benefit from the quarterback change here? Or is it really a have caution when it comes to Brown's past catchers in general this week? Yeah, I'm treating them with extreme caution. Like Vikings is this defense is just awesome. And Brian Flores is one of the best defensive coordinators in the game.

Going to send a ton of blitz packages, just kind of weird looks at Gabriel to kind of confuse them. Vikings had like last year at least, they gave up a ton of production to outside receivers, but that's like been polar opposite this year. Third fewest schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed to outside wide receivers. I'm pretty much just going to write this up as like Judkins is basically must start at this point. And then the rest of these receivers like Judy in Joku, Fanon, you know, no Cedric Tillman. Isaiah Bond's going to, you know, play a full-time role. I think the targets are going to kind of be split pretty evenly between those four. Miami loses Tyree Kill for the season.

Really, really a devastating injury to see it was gruesome. And it could be Tyree Kill doesn't play another snap in the NFL at his age. I mean, we hate to say that sort of thing. But it is going to create some opportunities for multiple dolphins, pass catchers. Malik Washington is going to step into a full-time role. I'm like kind of like over the top and excited about Washington, maybe a little too excited. He was a mega producer at UVA. He fell to day three because of a injury concerns.

It wasn't anything with his play on the field. He set the single season ACC record for receptions in a season. He set the UVA record for the most receiving yardage in a season. And he's looked good on a limited sample size in the NFL. He also has the added bonus gram where they use him a lot as a runner. I even wrote in the Waverwire column a couple weeks ago when Tyree Kill was still very healthy, that I thought that if Devon A. Chan went down with an injury, there'd be some contingent value for Washington just on the versatile like Debo Samuel corollary type.

Your thoughts on Washington, are you looking to get him in some lineups, looking to get him in some DFS lineups, and sort of your season-long outlook for him? Yeah, he has some upside for sure, just strictly because, I mean, this offense is always highly condensed. That's just the way McDaniel runs his offense. It's obviously like a huge boost for Waddle and H.M. I don't think we need to talk a whole lot about that. Darren Waller like has some

season long viability too, especially in Tideon premium. They're going to have red zone, you know, packages for him all year. Washington is like a pretty good like wide receiver four or five stash. And like you said, if you're in a pinch of receiver this week, he's going to be out there running full-time routes. He's going to get

the manufactured stuff over the middle. Waddle is probably going to have to stretch the field a little bit more. I'm a little bit concerned about this offense, though, man, just in general, like, Tua's not been playing particularly well. I think McDaniels called a relatively good offense to kind of play within two his strength and weaknesses right now. But, like, Tyreek, to my eye, still had his deep speed and, like, had, you know, maybe even 90% of it lost a step a little bit.

Like, they don't have anybody, obviously, to stretch the field like that. Waddle can do it. But, yeah, I think we're going to see this Dolphins. offense take even a further step back, which is gross to think about. Yeah, I mean, so much of what they were, they were like built around was Tyreek Hill. And Hill had that like ugly week one, but he seemed to really be trending up. We saw a really strong week two, a really strong week three. And then he was playing well against the Jets when we went down.

So, and they get the win. So it's really, this could be catastrophic for Miami. I think the good news for Miami is they're playing Carolina this week, who I realize Carolina beat the hell out of Atlanta at home, but it's still not a team that we would really worry about that much. Then they play Cleveland in two weeks, which Cleveland has a fantastic defense, but it'll be versus Dylan Gabriel, not necessarily a daunting thing. And Miami's front seven is a little, is pretty solid.

But I think we do get back to a lot of those low A dot looks like we saw last year, where it was two of getting the ball out quickly to Devon A-chan. Jalen Waddle, I think, definitely trends up. But Washington, I think, could be the wild card here. I know there's a lot of Waller enthusiasm and certainly in tight-end premium leagues. I think Waller is a guy you need to add. But Washington, like the enthusiasm people are having for Slayton, I think after kind of looking at it from like a bird's eye view, I think Washington and Slayton, they both have an opportunity with Washington. It's a little bit more unknown upside because he's a younger player. Slayton's a veteran who sort of steps in as almost a neighbor's handcuff.

Washington could kind of have an expansive role. And I'll throw out one other little variable. Jeline Waddle has dealt with some little injuries this year where it's caused them to miss some practice time. So we'll keep an eye on Malik Washington. Graham, we dropped a couple of start sit, some random, very random start sit questions this week. I dropped it a little late.

I'd like to put this out on X before we record. I forgot to put it out. So I put it actually a few minutes before. But we have one interesting. one. It's by week troubles, start Zach Charbonnet or start Trayvion Henderson. Hmm. I'd go Henderson. I'm going to get the goal on carry. You got the goal on carry, but it's still split, man. It's still annoying. Yeah, it's very annoying for sure. I think for me, I'm going Henderson, though. Scott Barrett's talked about this a little bit. I know that you're still positive about

Trayvon. I'm still positive. I think the Trayvon breakout week could happen. Charbonnet and him and him, I think, are pretty close in like the rankings. I think we could put it like this. If you're looking for like a floor play, a guy who we can sort of predict the volume, a guy who you maybe need 10 points from, I go Charbonnet. If I was a little bit of an underdog

and I need a little bit of upside in this starts at decision, I would definitely go Henderson, but they're just so close that I would lean towards the player that I think has more size. I think it's Henderson. Yeah.

One of a matchup too. Buffalo has really struggled on run defense. and the bucks have been awesome, really good on run defense. Drake May has also been really, really awesome, which could be really fun. The Buffalo New England game, that could be a really, really fun, interesting one for us to see, just with the way that New England's sort of punching above their ADPs with the amount of points that they've been scoring. So we'll see about that one.

Buffalo is a very difficult opponent for them, but this could be a fun one for Drake May. And maybe we get a little bit of like we maybe get a little bit of positive game flow for Henderson where it could be a trailing environment. Maybe they want to speed things up. We could see him in his receiving ability finally sort of stand out. Let's talk about one more start sit. We rarely get these ones. We have a defensive start sit question. And it's two defenses that I think we would both rank towards the very top.

You've got the Minnesota Vikings this week. or you've got the Arizona Cardinals. So according to our projections, these are both top five defenses. Arizona goes up against the hapless Tennessee Titans. And the Minnesota Vikings go up against Dylan Gabriel. And of course, this game's going to be in Europe for Dylan Gabriel making this first start.

But Brian Flores and that Minnesota defense, for me, I think I'm leaning towards Minnesota. But you could talk me into Arizona. Which way are you going? Yeah, Vikings just, Flores is going to have Dylan Gabriel in hell. Like, you just, they're blitzing at 47% dude. Like, they're going to, that's by far the highest rate in the league. They're going to just absolutely confuse him in his first game.

It's like the worst possible start for a rookie quarterback at this point. And a get right moment for the Minnesota Vikings as well. Minnesota, of course, lost to Pittsburgh, really kind of a disappointing loss for them. They gave up the really long reception to D.K. Metcalfe. they were absolutely fried by Kenneth Gainwell. We know this is a good defense that can impose their will on people. So I think we're both leaning towards Minnesota. Thanks for putting the Start Sit questions in there.

And thanks for tuning in every single week. Graham, what else do you have going on this week? Yeah, StartSit will be out on Thursday morning. It always is. I'm recording matchup points with John and Brett this afternoon. That'll be up on our YouTube channel and the Fantasy Points podcast. It goes out every Thursday. and caching points with myself, Jake and Ryan, Friday night, stream at 7 o'clock Eastern Time.

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