Fantasy Football Daily - Fantasy Football Week 7 Review "Injuries, Zeros, and Revenge Games" | Fantasy Points Podcast

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

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When you fly in Emirates business class and you're picked up by your private, luxury, chauffeur-driven car, you'll see that your vacation isn't really over until your flight is over. Fly Emirates. Fly better. Hey, what's up? It's John Hanson. Week number seven was weird as hell. And me and Brian Drake are here to break it all down. Got a lot of things right in Detroit, Minnesota, Amon Ra. loved a bejean and pits

a j brown barkley but also weird stuff with tony pollard losing yards we had the jaden daniels injury bad vibes with the giants and malique neighbors we'll break it all down here on the fantasy points podcast and as always you are welcome all across this fantasy universe welcome into the fantasy points podcast week seven review and holy smokes folks

If you're listening to this, I hope you're doing okay because your players either crap the bed or they got hurt. There's no in between. We're going to break it all down here. Brian Drake, along with the guru, John Hanson. John, I mean, just first of all, before we get into Patriots Jags, which will make you want to drink. Holy cow, I just kind of a thing. Jaden Daniels goes down. He's okay.

Watson, he looks like he's done for the year. Huntley gets hurt. AOC. Iuke. Like, my head is spinning right now, getting ready for this podcast. Yeah. was um it it it was a weird week things got weird things took a turn i i will tell you i was i was up working well all day saturday breaking it down for the website here and i just had and and i'm like

you know what i'm going to do my work and and put my best foot forward and you know i'm out there trying literally trying as hard as i possibly can to get everything right and sometimes i'm going off on little little tangents that sometimes they work sometimes they don't but I just had this feeling unlike the previous four weeks which again that's why I thought I had the feeling because things had been going too well for the last four weeks avoiding injuries a lot of the things that if you did the research to figure it out it happened you know what I mean so I'm like great but it was getting a little too comfortable. And as I say, there were seasons within the season. I think last week, week six was the end of like season two of 2024. And this week was the beginning of season three.

And it got off to a pretty rocky start as we'll get into. But I kind of saw this coming. I tried to allude to it in my pick section. I'm like, I'm being as careful as I can because I know I've been doing very well. So something's going to go wrong. And it did. But. For the most part, I still thought it was a pretty good week of analysis, so we'll get into it. I thought I had some pretty good calls. A couple of things I regret for sure we'll get into, but actually I thought it was a pretty good week, but it was also, like I said, a very freaking weird week in the NFL. So let's dive right in. We record this before the Sunday night game, so we're not going to talk about that.

But we will begin with the early one over in London. Jacksonville. Hey, how about the fighting Doug Peterson's getting a 32-16 win over the Patriot. Triots. One of my starts of the week was Tank Bigsby. After about the first quarter, John, I tweeted out, hey, listen, if you started Tank Biggsby, go back to bed. And then of course he goes off. He scores two more touchdowns. My mentions just blow up. Bigsby goes 26 for 118 as Travis ETN doesn't play. And he looked good, but I still would say, John, if you're a Biggsby owner, like, this is the time to sell. ETN's going to come back. Bigsby's never going to have.

had this game script again with this terrible Jagsteen. Like, this is the time to move from Bigsby. Yeah, probably so. Yeah, I liked him. I wrote him up very positively today. I had him at 22 at running back. I had him over a freaking Josh Jacobs and Najee Harris, to name a few, Moster, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, the disappointment, we kind of all knew that was coming. The disappointment was, again, I think the London game didn't help. young Patriots team, rookie quarterback, although Drake May had a pretty good game here for fantasy. You know, I really like Christian Kirk. That sucked. It's not like Evan Ingram went off. No. Evan Ingram had 35 freaking yards. The problem was they freaking throw it 20 times. And really a couple of those throws were BS type of throws. I mean, we got about 18 attempts from Trevor Lawrence. And this is the challenge, you know, big plays and like kick return touchdowns, freaking kill props.

When they had that Washington, Parker Washington, the 100 yard, 98 yard or whatever the hell it was, I'm like, oh, we're done. We're done. They're going to sit on the ball. So that's the frustrating part of it. You know, you try and anticipate it as best you can, but it's impossible.

I thought that, you know, showing well last week, New England would come and show a little bit better against a beatable defense. They did get Tyson Campbell back. It's not like Ramandre did anything. Hunter Henry, I don't really think that was that predictable. They do play a lot of man.

Usually you don't like him against man. But Douglas was a big buzz kill. Like, what the hell? We thought, just when we thought we could trust Douglas, he pretty much lays an egg. Yeah. And they said he was sick before the game. I wish we would have known that. Oh, right.

Well, there you go. There you go. That's the second guy who was sick. So this is week seven. Do you think that Henry going off because everyone's going to want to pick up Henry because tight ends of wasteland? do you think Henry's big game was a direct correlation to Pop Douglas not being in the lineup for most of the game? Probably.

Yeah, that would make some sense. But I also say with Henry, like, for whatever reason, he's not a guy that they go to every week. If they see something in the matchup, and I didn't necessarily see it here, they'll make it a Henry week, like that game where he caught like nine balls. You know, like that's why he tricks you, I think. because, oh, like, if he's capable of catching nine balls, why does he do it every week? Because he catches nine balls because it's a good matchup or situation. You know what I mean?

There are extenuating circumstances. Last thing on this game, Brian Thomas Jr., boy, he looks fantastic. I for 89. He really does. I can't wait to see where he gets drafted next year in fantasy. He's going to be like a second or third round pick. Real good. Yeah.

Absolutely. A good player right there. Stud. How about Seattle? They get a big win. Remember everybody was kind of, they started the year, John. Oh, Seattle's great. And then they lose like three straight, right? And then they were like, oh, Seattle stinks again. Now they go and beat a Falcons team who falls to four and three, who the Falcons literally could have been like 0.5 at one point. Like there's a lot of luck going on with the Falcons. But in this game, Ken Walker love to see it. We talk about him every week on the show, two touchdowns. They get him involved in the passing game. He runs for 69 yards. You know, love seeing that. DK. He got injured at one point in the game, but he comes through four for 99 and a touchdown. You know, other than that, lock it, you know, if you had to start him four for 45, JSN, of course, does nothing. So what do you get from this Seattle side in this game?

Well, number one, Walker did look awesome. That touchdown run. I mean, you want to talk about bringing it. You know what I mean? Like, my man is like, he's like running from the cops fast. Like he's like, and I can say that because I actually have run from the cops multiple times in the 80s. That's kind of what we did. I once ran from the cops throwing eggs. I think I may have told this story before. I was running for a Halloween story. I was probably about 15.

Egging. Oh, yeah. You know, go to a store about two dozen eggs. Oh, for sure. Just because it was dangerous and all that. cop catches me chases me i climb up a tree he the two cops are down and uh they come down and one one cop was black eye

one guy was a white guy he's like uh what's your name and i learned this on fred sanford which was one of my favorite shows sanford and son and my father's favorite show i was like harry he's like harry what i was like belafonte like and the cop started laughing and he's like get the hell out of here kid he was kind of impressed that i did that i went there uh but any who um dk metcalf is like my kryptonite whenever i go on anything public against him and i and at this point i now state it when i do say it which i did this morning like on vesen i'm like yeah i don't like dk but f why i'm a hater and whenever i don't like him he goes off uh and he kind of went

off but I guess how about how about fanta cloths no a fan has been actually kind of a thing in this new offense four for 65 today for noa fan second leading receiver on the team do we do we and and this is pure speculation but I was not a big jackson smith and jigba guy I didn't like how he played that one year and he was like I'm good you know I didn't like that um I mean is there any correlation between his lack of productivity and the fact that maybe maybe he's not bringing it. I mean, this is ridiculous for Smith and Jigba. Yeah, I mean, it's an offense, too, that you think they're going to spread it around a bunch.

You know, Lockett gets six targets, Fants gets four targets, DK's got to get the ball. So there's a lot of miles to feed right now. I still think if you wait, I mean, we always say wait till next year, Lockett's gone, wait till next year. I mean, Lockett's going to play these 100 years old at this point. But, yeah, it's just JSN at this point for fantasy. You can't trust him at all. Same for Sharbney. Even though Sharpenet, even though Sharpenet played.

I think he's good. Right. I actually do think he's pretty good, you know, but I just never got a good vibe from him. Yeah, I mean, I think it, I think there might be something there that had he been putting his best before, he'd be doing better. Let's put it that way. I question that. I could be wrong. And apologies if I am.

Just a thought. He did have a carry for 35, given that. There's 3.5 points. Yeah. Now, on the other side, I'll tell you what, I did write up Bijan two weeks ago. I'm like, look, we know he's struggling, but value down a little bit. And when a guy's struggling, he needs help. And what can we do?

Where's the cavalry? Oh, look at that schedule. And I looked down. I'm like, oh, yeah, trade for Bejohn. He looked good. I mean, he has looked really good the last couple of weeks. And you notice he had a little bit more of a bell cow roll. He'd like to see a little bit more in a passing year.

but hey, you can't complain with five targets, three for 40. And I also did like Pitts today. I did win that prop. And he's a thing. Like this is a thing, man. Pitts is, this is all what we've been dreaming for. I mean, it was pretty easy for him to put up seven for 65. Yeah.

And, you know, you're the projections guy. It's got to be fairly simple, I would imagine, to project the Atlanta Falcons. I mean, yes, they turn the ball over three times. That's pretty much why they lost the game. But you know the ball. ball's going to London. You know, he got his eight targets. He scores. Mooney's involved as ever. He goes five for 46. He's viable in in deep formats. And, you know, and now Pitts is. You know, they're going to run the ball. Now the Bijon's getting 20 touches a week. Like,

I don't know, you tell me, you're the projection guy. Is this kind of how you look at it? It's pretty easy. Yeah. And I actually had Ray Ray McLeod as a matchup to avoid or be afraid of. And he got two for nine. So there are weeks when Ray, Ray does kind of stand out. And I've, I think we've been on that I have last couple weeks so for what it's worth yeah it's kind of a three-headed monster in the passing game and sometimes it's a fourth with ray ray and uh you can't really trust tyler algier even if you're looking at oh look it's a good matchup on the ground like last week you last week you couldn't you couldn't have trusted him in week six because he did crap in week five so if you trusted him in week seven from week six you got a little bull

loaned here. You got like six points. Yeah, if your fantasy team is trying to count on Tyler Algier as a flex or desperation play, you got some bigger problems out there. Let's take a time out. The story is Bijan is ball in right now.

Time out real quick. On the other side, Amari Cooper made his debut in Buffalo. Let's have any tables he broke out there in Chicken Wing City. Stay right there. It's the Fantasy Points podcast. This giving Tuesday, Cam H is counting on your support. Together, we can forge a better path for mental health

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It was a struggle for most of this game. But we got to see Amari Cooper, his first game as a bill. And they find him in the end zone, four for 66, and a score for Amari Cooper. Josh Allen, 323 and two scores. he did also, you know, not doing a whole lot of nothing on the ground. So before we get into the rest of the team, Amari Cooper, long term, he's the alpha for this team. This is what they needed, right, John? Is this kind of what you expected for a guy that probably knew, I don't know, 10% of the plays, you know, in terms of what he, when he walked into the tunnel here is what I'm trying to say.

When he came in, like, he didn't know much of the playbook. But when he was out there, they gave him a lot of targets. He had five targets stay on, you know, barely any plays. Oh yeah for sure I mean just just so much going on here Number one it's funny because there's a gentleman I won't even mention them but I love the guy But who covers the bills and I saw a tweet of his and just just complaining

away about the offense I'm looking here at the first half summary It was very complainable if you will I know that's not really a thing Josh Allen is four of 11 for 65 with a sack, nothing on the ground. One carry for seven. Like this is two quarters of football.

You're like, what the hell are we doing here? You know, and it's just like week seven and just like the NFL, if you went on your high horse at halftime and offered a commentary about Joe Brady or Josh Allen, you look like an absolute jackass because Alan ended up throwing. for three 23 they were calling him a game manager at half time i mean this is ridiculous you know what i mean so things just get weird uh right around this time of the year in the national football league but i mean and cooper it feels like already is already making guys better you know because he just poses a threat opens things up spreads the defense out a little bit he's a guy can separate down the

field i felt like he was going to be pretty good for my guy shakir look at a seven freaking catches on seven targets like you would have never really predicted that either because alan has kind of been a game manager i'm like i don't think shakir's catching seven is he no yep he did of course uh well i guess kinkade even wasn't awful with three for 52 but you know you look here too spreading the ball around it's week to week i do think cooper you can feel pretty damn good about him as the alpha as you said i think shakir is like the glue that kind of holds it together, Mr. Third Down Conversions, Mr. Pretty

Decent Floor. Sealing, you know, not bad though. I mean, if he scores, ceiling's going to be good. Now you got Ray Davis, too, in the mix. So you do have to pull back a little bit from James Cook. Only 12 carries today. And Kincaid is still screwed. Yeah.

And Kincaid is, he's been screwed and he's still screwed. Yeah, I'm looking at this offense. And, you know, Amari Cooper, we were talking about him. He only played 33% of the snaps here. He got targets on five out of 12 of the routes that he ran. A lot of folks are going to look at this box score and go,

Keon Coleman was supposed to be dead. You know, Murray Cooper basically was traded to this team to take Cooper's job. He leads the team in targets. He goes for 125 yards. I don't necessarily think that's sustainable, but it's going to be interesting because all these waiver wire articles out there are going to be like, go pick up Keon Coleman.

What a big week, you know, and all this. But I don't know. I still think this is this is Cooper, this is Shakir, and then there's, there's a lot of, too many tight ends for my liking as an adult and Kincade owner. Yeah, it's four people. You know, it's now Cooper. It's Shakir, Kincade, and then Coleman. Like, Coleman is fourth on the, the ring there.

I mean, he's fourth in line. You know, not every week. This week, he was good. You know what kills me, John, with this team. You get Ray Davis gets a garbage. fourth quarter touchdown, you know, with like under two minutes to go. He goes five for 41. So if you had to start him, it comes through. But then we also get a Ty Johnson receiving touchdown. Like, you know, this is what's killing the folks who are starting Shakir, who are starting

Kincaid. It's like, why are we throwing balls to tie Johnson? And why is Ray Davis getting busting through for touchdowns? But, you know, that's fantasy, I guess. Hey, I think, did Cook it dinged up? I mean, Ty Johnson was out there on a third down at the five or whatever. He ran out, turned around, and Alan threw the ball and he backed into the end zone, basically.

Yeah, it's, who knows? Well, let's talk about I got boned. I got boned on the other side here with this. I want to talk about this? This collared prop. So, I'm listening to Paul Kelly and Joe Dolan doing the game day

show on Sirius XM as I'm picking up my daughter today from cheerleading and they're talking about this rushing prop for pollard and i think it was like i don't know what like 61 yards or something like that he had the prop to he had the prop at the half he covered he hit the prop and the second half he lost yardage and lost the prop john oh that's a killer this is another that is a killer uh so i got to put that on my l sheet here but i mean it is what it is but i mean that that's week seven you know what i mean like because It's funny, the data and the schematic matchup showed that this was a play. Like, this is a good matchup.

And, you know, based on the man, the gap scheme runs and the bills are really struggling with that and all that. And then if you were watching the game, you know, certainly had a couple dumpy, you know, two-yard carries, but you watch, let me see here, I'll call it up. he ripped off a couple good ones basically to my point uh nine yards there was there was like a 15 yard or i'm like yeah yeah here we go five yards uh this is what we're talking about he also took a shot unfortunately that that that that really lost the problem probably because he took he got checked for a concussion and he missed a couple of carries when the game uh wasn't you know i can't call it up

uh but he ripped off trust me he he he he here's a one for 12. You know, it wasn't it was like 12, 15. It was looking good, but absolutely stonewalled in the second half. You know, like there's a case of like half time. You're like feeling good. Hashtag analysis. Let's go. He's averaging over five yards of carry. Game men 16 carry 61. Two balls for four. Just a debacle. But, you know, also bad football. You know, probably a little risky to rely on a running back on a bad team, you know, but it was this close, you know, we were on the right track. And lastly on this team, the Titans here, they ran 67 offensive plays, which you would think, man, they're firing off balls left and right. When you got Mason Rudolph dropping back

40 times and spreading the ball around like he did, but nobody did anything, John. I mean, D'Andre Hopkins is, he's done. He's sick of this. If he's on this team, when we do this pod next week. I will be floored. DeAndre Hopkins. They tried with Ridley. Yeah, they tried a little bit with Ridley. He did rip off a 33 like catching run deal. Three for 42 I guess is not terrible, but they stink. I mean, they just stink. Pollard is like a guy that, you know, I'm probably going to avoid him in all prop markets unless he plays a very inferior opponent. But, you know, fans. fantasy-wise, you're like, hey, at least Tage Spears isn't there. He's getting all the work.

You know, I'll start him as a third back at worst or even a low end, too, which I have him in a couple of leagues. Hey, he's been pretty good. But today, that sucked. That sucked. Yeah, about 88% of the snaps at Pollard 13 of 16 on third downs. All right. Let's go over to the Bengals and the Browns. Big story in this Bengals 2114 victory. Deshawn Watson. Hurts his Achilles, John. It's over. And it may be over. for the career for Deshaun Watson. I don't know if he ever finds his way back. I could totally see a way where the Browns find there some kind of insurance, you know, claws and hey, we're going to pay you off, do this, do that.

And it's curtains for Deshaun Watson. But anyways, back to the game. They lose Watson. They go to DTR, who for some reason was the number two quarterback. He gets injured. And then we see our boy James Winston come in. But we've got Nick Chubb returning in this game. Nice to see him playing.

he gets in the end zone. Shocked they gave him 11 carries. It only did, only got 22 yards for it. But what do you think of this? Brown's offense now losing Deshaun Watson in a losing effort. Could it actually open things up? Could this be a blessing for the Browns now at one and six and all their fantasy assets? Yeah, it will be. And Graham Barfield brought up a great point today on the final points.

we have so many damn points. We got a lot of shows. Yeah, final point. Nojoku is a good by-low guy, for sure, the chief. And sure enough, I wrote him up too. I mean, I didn't think he'd go off like this, but I wrote it up. Like, this is a matchup to exploit.

You know, if you want to call exploiting anything, wouldn't David Nujoku this year with freaking Watson. But now, I mean, that's, we've turned the page. Like, as soon as it happened, I'm like, yeah, I had the same thought, obviously. I'm like, yeah, that was probably his last nap in the NFL. We'll see. but seems it feels like this year but who knows he maybe it's not that big of a deal i haven't checked

the latest but clearly um already you saw nijoku unlocked a little bit and then cedric tillman you know is a pretty good outside receiver you know like you know like a courtland sutton type doesn't run as well possession guy so he would probably be a high volume guy as well if it's hopefully winston basically is what you're looking at And then Elijah Moore even, you know, he's a good player too. So yeah, this does open up. Now we have, and of course, Judy ironically, craps the bed. Just leave it to Jerry Judy.

Somehow Jerry Judy finds a way to underwhelm. But, you know, this does open up opportunities to where you got two or three, maybe even four in some of the leagues, guys who are all of a sudden, hey, they're actually viable. Let's go over to the other side, Cincinnati only converts two third downs in the entire game. Joe Burrough a lackluster 181 yards passing, but he does get two touchdown passes. Thankfully, they go to Chase and Higgins. So that helps us out in fantasy. And listen, it's this is kind of the the Chase Brown show here, John. It's 15 carries for Chase Brown. Doesn't do a whole lot with him on the ground, but seems to be distancing himself more and

more from Zach Moss, who only had six carries. Yeah, yeah. I have to go back and look about, passing down and all that but you know Moss did have more targets he probably did see more snaps there and that's been a thing that's you know prevented Chase Brown from playing a little bit more but yeah it's highly concentrated a tree here I mean I did talk about it a lot and write about it this week you know like Ohio native Joe Burrow for whatever reason and granted this this time you know only 25 attempts he just doesn't play all that well in Cleveland Maybe part of that is the defense. They do have good corners.

They play a lot of man. You know, there was a time when Joe and Jason Higgins absolutely destroyed man. You know, and that was the case again today, basically. I kind of like both guys. Wish I went on, I guess, a Higgins prop for the yardage. But yeah, I like how, well, we didn't go to the tight ends in this one. There wasn't a lot of production to go around, yet the two top guys did come through and Burrow at least didn't crap the bed.

In this game, though, you referenced the third down. Zach Moss played on 10 out of 13 third downs. Overall, Chase Brown, 58% of the snaps to 49% to Zach Moss. All right. So, yeah, go out there, folks. One last thing in this game. What do you think of Nick Chubb going forward? People are excited.

He got in the end zone. I mean, you guys averaging two yards of carry out there, so I can't get too over the moon for it. But, you know, could be a new offense, a little more opened up. Maybe the handcuffs come off the play caller here, and who knows? Right. Yeah. I mean, Jerome Ford currently hurt.

Clearly, Chubb was the guy. They didn't really work in foreman much, only two carries. Pierre Strong was quite weak with two yards to carry. Yeah. So another week or two, we might already, and we're hell, we were close today. you know, where we can count on Chubb getting 15 carries at least. Real fun game up at Lambo. The Packers hold on for a 24-22 victory over the Texans.

They get a field goal late in that fourth quarter. Brandon McManus, their new kicker from 45 yards out. If you need a kicker, folks, I mean, he might be kind of a jackass as a person if you follow that story. But if you need a kicker, he's got a good leg on a good offense here. How about your boy, John? Jordan Love, three more touchdowns, and he finds Josh Jacobs for his first receiving touchdown of his career. I couldn't believe that's that when I saw it. But yeah, three more for your guy, I love that.

He's racking up that tally to get to, what did you say he's going to throw 30 or 40 for the rest of the year? Oh, I said he'll absolutely throw 30 from week four on, for sure. Like, and he's, he's, now he's going to throw 40 in 15 games. He's throwing 40 this year in 15 games, which is pretty impressive. You know, I was thinking, it's funny, Josh Jacobs scored his first receiving touchdown in large part because Josh Jacobs cannot freaking run them in, you know. But he did run well. He had a couple ripped off a couple. I wasn't in love with him today.

This passing attack is frustrating, though, because it's just, you know, new flavor. of the week. And Watson was a freaking odd man out in this one. So I think going forward, we need to give Romeo Dobbs more love. Yeah. I mean, Jaden Reed had a terrible game.

Like, what the hell was that? Two for 10 for Jaden Reed. I mean, it's like Jane Reed, talk about volatile. Like, dude's getting 20 points on the regular

15, 20 points. And today, oh, sorry, here's three points. Suck it. Damn. And the week, Everybody sits, Dantavian Wix. Remember who was going crazy?

Like, you got to play Dontavian Wix. He's the greatest receiver since, you know, Jerry Rice. Today, of course, he scores. So we get Wicks in the end zone. Kraft scores. And of course, Josh Jacobs. On the other side for Houston. And Kraft, by the way, Kraft was probably,

that's a setup now for next week's bedshitting. Just FYI. Well, how about Joe Mixing coming through here? 25 carries, 115 yards. and not one, but two rushing touchdowns for Mixing. So he's really come back from injury, come out of the gate swinging here. You know, Joe Mix, I mean, it looks like it's an RB1 for the rest of the way. I mean, he can challenge for the RB one.

But in terms of the receivers. My God, what the hell happened to this Texas passing? Exactly. It's week seven. I mean, luckily, and, you know, I don't think I wrote it, but I think I said, I'm like, I can't get a feel for this game. You know, I didn't really love anything. I was very tempted. I should have done it to go love two touchdowns or more.

Big regret. But I just, I just couldn't get a feel for this one. You know, there's some familiarity there. You know, Sloick is from like the Shanahan tree. Sloick's dad was the D.C. in Green Bay. slow it grew up in green bay it was like it was just you know but man stroud 86 yards like this the green bay d is not a shutdown d at all that that was like wow course again only 21 attempts so like it just seems like there's a fine line lately between oh what did you throw it how many times 40 oh how about next week

20 oh okay like it just seems like that's like very volatile now there's no real identity. It's like they throw a lot by necessity or they just can't even throw it because they don't possess a damn ball. They miss Nico Collins so much in this offense. You can tell it from watching the game. How about Tank Dell? A goose egg. You got airballed us, John. Goosegs. Oh my gosh. Not to be outdone, Stefan Diggs, five for 23. There was just nothing happening in this game if you had anybody. Diggs apparently got into like a, argument with the Packers during the warm-ups. He's like, dude, come on.

Oh, yeah. He's been fighting with Jayao-Elexander for years. Yeah, yeah, but I'm like, hopefully he wasn't arguing with those young guys because like Diggs, it's like, dude, those young guys are like, they're like eight years younger than you now. Like, you know what I mean? Like seven or eight years, you're like an old man to those guys. Someone down now.

Oh, this was a brutal watch, John. Indianapolis 1610 winners against Miami. All right, here's the best thing I can take from this game. News came out that Tua is going to practice this week and he could return in week eight. So thank God, you know, get ready to play A Chan again and Hill and Waddle. They'll all be back because today, well, they weren't. So let's start with the winning side first. Anthony Richardson, now this is a rough watch, 129 yards passing.

He ran for 56. I mean, you and I talked about it the other day. And we were talking about, oh, we got Richardson and we got Darnold, and we both played Darnold in that same spot. You know what I did today, John? I dropped Anthony Richardson. I don't need him. Wow.

What am I going to do? This guy can't throw a forward pass. It's terrible. It's amazing how well it looked, and I guess that's a sample size thing last year with Stuyken. And you're like, all right, well, they got the weapons. And boy, he's regressed. It's brutal. Now, you know, it doesn't help that they're running.

game is in a state of flux freaking sermon actually had a couple of good runs but damn goodson was is good uh even though the 3.6 okay that didn't look good but you know the the 19 yard it was nice um and sermon catches one but yeah man i i didn't really like downs like i was trying to downplay downs uh on our live stream this morning but you know it's kind of hard because I do love him and he is awesome. But man, yeah, I mean, you just need to understand, like, I'm going to bench Downs or Pitman. And yeah, they may do something, but I don't care.

You know what I mean? You just got to get, because you can't really go here. No. You just can't. Downs has never scored over six PPR points with Anthony Richardson as his quarterback. That's a real stat. I mean, it's tough in this situation. So, yeah, I just dumped Anthony Richardson.

whatever. I'd rather play Drake May at this point than than Anthony Richardson. Absolutely. On the other side, hey, we got a little something out of A. Chan. We got 77 yards rushing. We'll take that. Caught a couple of balls. So didn't totally kill you. You know, the people who are looking for more Jalen Wright, 33 yards rushing. You can't really depend on him there. Huntley did leave this game with a shoulder injury, but it could be just in the nick of time. Like we said, Tua looking to return possibly next week. But I mean, Tyreek, John, one for eight. Are you kidding me here?

One for 11 for Waddle. I mean, let this nightmare end. This is brutal. And to my point about like, I just had this weird feeling like this, this, this week is going to screw me. I just know it. So let me try and get cute, which, you know, I worked in a couple of cases. and I got into my freaking head that Tyreeks prop was a play and I died like a dog but in my defense in my

defense like Mike McDaniel bruh I love that dude man I had a I had a very hysterical interaction with Mike McDaniel several years ago with the combat absolutely hysterical love the guy most entertaining coach I think I've ever seen. However, you know, the the quirkiness and all that, it's not as endearing when you coming out of a buy with two weeks to prepare and a very good matchup against a defense that had not rushed the passer, had given up big plays, and was a good schematic matchup for Tyreek. You cannot, you can't design a, you freaking screen pass for Tyreek Hill. That's the best you can do.

One catch for eight? I understand it's this third, fourth string quarterback, but these are, I mean, put Kaplan back there. You know, I think I could probably get Tyreek 10, 10 yards. I mean, you've got to manufacture the top. You're an offensive

guru, right? If this was Kyle Shanigan, these guys, you had a week ago, we had Ben Johnson scheming up plays for left tackles. Like, what are we doing? We can't get the fastest player in the NFL the ball he Tyree he should have five screens a game he should be running like jet motion he should have at least three carries a game he only had one today for five yards like it is a crime what's happening in miami who knows i'm going to throw this out there maybe

they just don't want to get these guys hurt until two comes back they think let two will come back and then you know we could have lost the game and you've been you've been one in five you're like in the dirt yeah they are they are one thing I did get correct though was Johnu Smith that was all over Johnnyu I actually went on Friday on CRSXM and talked up the prop I'm like oh this is hit spend the money

and it was like over 17 and a half yards you got seven catches for 96 I actually picked them up and started them in a couple of FFC leagues and he absolutely crushed again that that was a matchup thing you can't count on it but I am the Johnu Conjurer, I guess. The John whisper. This is the third time, I think.

The whisper, I'm the Johnny Whisper. It's the third time that I kind of got Johnu right in a matchup. Proud of myself. Hell yeah. Let's do it. And let's take a quick time out. Come back on the other side. Talk about John's Minnesota Vikings, maybe the game of the day in the NFC North. Stick and stay right here, Fantasy Points podcast. All right, John, we're back and we're talking about this incredible. matchup between your Vikings and the Detroit Lions every week. Come on here and I tell you about how great the Vikings did and they're advancing and being

undefeated and whatnot. They took it on the chin, their first loss of the year, 31, 29 to the Detroit Lions here. But, hey, listen, if you want to take anything from this as a football fan, Minnesota is very, very good. People lose games. It's the NFL. This defense is phenomenal. And I think these two teams are going to meet again.

probably in the playoffs. So with that said, let's talk about the Detroit Lions who had quite the game from Gibbs and Montgomery. They're trying to give him a nickname. Did you hear this, John? They want to call them Knuckles and Sonic or Sonic and Knuckles. For the two guys,

I don't like any of it. And I'm an old Sega guy from the 90s. You're Mr. Nickname. We've got to find something good from you. Yeah. Yeah, well, remember Dave's old nickname on the other. team was Stonewall Montgomery, which was great. But, you know, this was a very good game analysis-wise.

Unfortunately, this did fall under a little bit the weird week seven category in that, yeah, things were going a little bit too well, and according to plan, that weird stuff is going to happen. And here's how it did. Both teams are freaking pass funnels. because you can't run on them. And oh, never mind. Aaron Jones, 6.6 yards of carry crushing them.

And then Gibbs 7.7 yards of carry. That, that, and everything went as planned in the passing game. Loved him on Ra, didn't like LaPorta. I had Gibbs over four catches. Of course, I said in the live stream this morning, I said, watched Montgomery catch three balls, and he did. Yet it still hit. I had Addison that hit.

But because Aaron Jones probably did a little bit better. And look, only 27 attempts. Freaking lost a darnal prop by half a freaking yard. Are you freaking kidding me? Like everything was, I mean, if you listen to Friday's podcast, we had it all. Everything we had, except this freaking darnled by a damn yard. It was a little shaky. but you know again how are you going to predict oh someone tells you oh okay the vikings are going to be in a game

it's going to be 60 total against detroit the greatest run defense top three in football bet your house on sam donald's attempt uh over under and you're like 39 like no now he threw it 27 times crazy really crazy that's the frustrating stuff that's the frustrating stuff Let me ask about Sam Leporta here because I get people DMing me all the time about trades and like, I want to give up Leporta and move on from him and he's not doing it. I remember last year he caught a ton of touchdown. So that kind of really skewed his numbers a lot. But John, this is a guy that has not gone over 60 yards receiving this year today. One for 25.

And a PPR, he got you three and a half points. I mean, is that just you take the variance or is Leporta kind of just not it? anymore. Well, I don't really think it's his fault. I think it's a lack of volume. They're running games too damn good and the defense is pretty good.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Sorry. We're recording this, folks, during the beginning of the NLCS. Also, and John, as we all know, is a noted Dodgers fan. So I could just imagine what happened here behind me on TV.

Sorry, can we edit that out? uh no don't worry about it i don't get a rat's ass sorry if you're offended um yeah i think their defense is doing a little bit better they're they're a great team i mean that you know i'm not that pissed at the viking's lost what does suck is that we'll never know what j j mccarthy could have done here because i i do believe he's better than darnold or would have been better than what Darnold is this year. Yeah, and for fantasy, Donald, he's helping you out a little bit here.

He ran for 39 yards today. He's good. Yeah, he's been pretty good. Oh, and by the way, again, the fact that both teams freaking had unexpected success on the ground did limit the attempts and did crush Jameson.

So it hurt Jameson and it hurt Darnold hitting his over. And I believe Jefferson, I didn't play it, but I did love Jefferson today. and he was very good, but I don't think he hit his number. Addison did, but he needed a 51-yarder to get it. But yeah, I mean, this would be an example of kind of felt like we got everything right,

but we did get a couple of things wrong just because. Philadelphia goes into MetLife and just whitewash as a hapless Giants team, 28 to 3. You know, Sequan Barclay's revenge game, he goes for 176 yards on the ground and a touchdown. could have probably had two more, but they went with some tush pushes to Jalen Hertz. It's the most yards through six games for any Eagles running back in the team's history. Jalen Hertz only throws for a buck 14 and a touchdown to A.J. Brown, but gives you those two rushing scores. Nothing, and I mean nothing going on with Devante Smith.

I mean, the guy got you at negative points today, John. Devante Smith, come on here. One reception for negative two. Just brutal as the Eagles convert one third down on the day, but still roll because the Giants can't get out of their own way. There's not a whole lot to talk about there on the Eagle side. We kind of knew that was going to happen. I want to talk to you about this Giants team that played a lot of Tyrone Tracy today. And that was really the question.

People are wondering, is it going to be Singletary as he comes off of injury? Is it going to be Tyrone Tracy? Tracy with 69% of the rushing snaps, 9 of 14 on third down, but did absolutely nothing with him, John. And maybe that's a function of the offense and the offensive line. But you got to feel decent, I guess, if you're a Singletary owner because they're going to keep them involved. Yeah, yeah. But I thought we were going to go another way with it. I kind of watched it thinking, is Tracy kind of taken over?

you know because I was thinking that Singletary would not depart but what was the snap count again? Did you have a snap count? Tracy 69% to just 22 for Singletary. Singletary didn't play a snap. This is from Dave Richards from CBS. Didn't play until the last snap of the first quarter. Oh, right. Okay.

Yeah. So I kind of feel like maybe Tracy took over. But on the other hand, I'm wondering, does it even matter? Because the Eagles don't have a good pass rush. Granted, divisional opponent, they know him and all that. And see, now this is the downside to Malik neighbors that I kept kind of alluding to all summer. And I understood why people like you and others were freaking praising this guy. And it looked incredible for a month.

And I started feeling like a real jackass like, damn, why was I worried about this guy? And then that was last season. so far this season he stinks like he's killing you and now the left tackles out Danny Dimes played like crap you got Drew I mean I literally had visions of Drew Locke trying to get the ball to Malik neighbors in like December we actually saw it today I was Daniel Jones benched yeah they they once the game got out of hand the Eagles put their reserves in so can he picked it got some wrong yeah yeah Yeah.

Drew Locke. Yeah. Well, the Eagle side, you understood. They kicked their ass. Yeah. But I may want to, you know, see Danny Dimes fight his way out of it a little bit. And, you know, so. Yeah, the Eagles roughed them up.

They were sacking them left and right. You know, really got after. I try to find, I think they sack them like, geez, it got to be like seven times, maybe more. Well, well, here you go. Now you can't trust. Okay, now they got the Steelers this week. Good luck. Good luck, Malik.

Malik isn't doing shit next week. you got a porter and a pass rush it's over you know what it is with the giants they've got like malik neighbors the orbit of neighbors just kind of sucks everything in like a black hole there's nothing else that can go on around it the two games when neighbors wasn't there hey you know wendell's doing stuff we got slayton doing things the right backs are getting touches it's kind of like the fantasy black hole malik neighbors nothing exists around him think about selling if what you could have gotten if you sold malik neighbors three weeks ago.

You could have got like Bejohn for him. We'll see. If yeah, if anybody out there to make some trades, send us some tweets. We'd like to hear about it. All right. By the way, by the way, real quick, I was into to Brown in this game, for sure, came through, didn't like skinny Batman, but that's a schematic and matchup thing. Like, he's going to be on my trade four list.

I feel like an idiot for not going with the Barclay over the Russia. pro but I thought I'd have it covered by going over his carry prop and lost it by a half a damn carry as freaking gainwell got 13 carry so once again blowouts and big plays and he ripped off two long runs that I wasn't anticipating two long runs that I lost a prop from that blowouts and big plays ruined props oh boy this was another game it was tough to watch the Rams 15 excuse me 2015 winners world Raiders AOC, Aiden O'Connell departs this game, could have a broken thumb for the Raiders. So Gardner Minchew, the Gardner's back. He's back. He's back.

Throwing picks left and right. Yeah. So he comes and throws three interceptions on this day where there was obviously no Devante Adams. He's a New York jet. And also, Jacoby Myers didn't play. So it was, as we mentioned the other day,

we all Brock Bowers all the time. 14 targets for Brock Bowers. for 93 for him. So if you started Brock, God bless you. I wish I had him on some of my teams. Alexander Madison, listen, it's not pretty. Just don't watch the game. See what he gives you at the end.

23 attempts for Alexander Madison, John, on the ground. Gives you 92 scoreless yards. But, you know, hey, and he catches three balls. You could do a lot, lot worse than Alexander Madison right now. It was like a desperation RB2. I think I thought I liked. him this week. I guess I didn't go there. I don't know why.

I guess because Zemir White was back. It's a decent spot for Alexander Madison who could have early Russian success and then receiving success. Want to shoot Zemir White was back, blah, blah, blah, blah. But the Raiders, yeah, yeah, it would be a surprise if White was a major fact. I don't know if a lot of people

know this, but Zemir White is an actual human being. He exists. He's in the world. Not that anyone's thought about him, but yeah, he does exist. Yeah, that's it. But over for the Rams, like, what? New Carron was going to do well.

And I look, I give it up to Kyrin. I was wrong to doubt that one. I was dead wrong. I mean, he is the most, and only 3.6 stars of Carrie, but he looked good. He is definitely one of the most improved players I've ever seen. I was skeptical and I was incorrect. We'll see, though, if he gets through the whole year. But what the hell else was going on?

Yeah, we had obviously the rumor, maybe we get Cooper Cup. He doesn't play. And then Jordan Whittington doesn't play either who was coming on the last few weeks. So in the past game, you know, I mean, you got 2-2 at well, who's a nice little story, I guess. He goes six for 51. Yeah, you know, Johnson catches four balls. I mean, there's Colby Parkinson, boy, I whiffed on him in a couple of lineups. He goes two for 32.

Maddie Stafford throws for a buck 54 with no touchdowns. This was brutal. LA only converted John two third down this entire game both teams combined to convert five this was just terrible football and I think your your Vikings get the Rams next week right I don't even know and the Rams were coming they were coming off a buy like what the hell was that yeah oh yeah they're at the Rams oh yeah yeah they'll they'll kill them yeah they're gonna absolutely crush them wow yeah I I don't have much man other than Hey, Carverin, good for you.

But, you know, and Tutu, hey, until proven otherwise in a 14-team league, you can get by with Tutu. I mean, look at his production over the last four weeks. I guarantee he's averaging about 9.9 points a game, which isn't too bad. Oh, trust me. As someone who started Rishi Rice and Brandon Ayuk, I'm about to get by with him in a 12-team league. We'll talk about Iyuk at a second here. The commanders, wow, 40 to 7. they just dismantled the Carolina Panthers on a day where Jaden Daniels leaves the game in the first quarter with a rib injury,

look to be okay. They're going to do further testing on Monday. So, you know, check the old Twitter machine after you get done listening to this podcast. But he was out back on the sideline. He's waving. His mom said he was okay in a tweet. But they still go out, John, and hang 40 on the Panthers. I mean, holy cow.

Does Dave Canalis finish the season with this team right here? this is the worst team I've ever seen. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I, I, I kind of felt that people were going a little too crazy with Canales. Like, hey, look, guys done a nice job. But I think you're all trying to catch lightning in a jar here, thinking you got the next great thing. And I don't know about that one.

Man. And then on the other side, like, how about the turnaround for DC? Like, good Lord. Like, it's crazy. Like, their defense has been. somewhat respectable I guess of course it's Carolina but they haven't been like a sieve their old line and running game has been pretty good you know like wow Daniels is just like making a lot of things look a little bit better McLaurin has been great uh lost another prop that I believe would

have won if freaking Daniels doesn't get hurt trying to be sneaky but Noah Brown I think was over like 30 he had one grab for 16 there was another play uh there was another play when um he was like wide open. But I think it was Mario da. You know, but see, and again, not that I not that I wish harm on anyone, but you know, Daniels and neighbors were the two guys like, I get it. I think there's studs. But I've got these issues and, you know, here we are. And it's kind of come come up. We'll see if Daniels can just come right back. But this was the concern. That's it. But, you know, since he's, you know, other than the injury, he's been absolutely brilliant. Like the run he had today was so Lamar-esque.

You know, I realized, and I think I said this, he's a better Lamar. I mean, he's a better Lamar. Yeah, that's what I said that a few weeks ago on the show. He's Lamar, a young Lamar that can throw the football. Because Lamar in his early years wasn't a great passer. Obviously now in his MVP form, he's gotten much, much better. But on the Carolina side, listen, you're starting Jubal Hubbard every week. He'd scored.

That's awesome. We'll see if they trade Miles Sanders this week. But, and then in the passing game, Deontay was banged up all week long. Didn't know if he was going to play three targets. It goes one for 17. And then after the game, Canales says that they're sticking with Andy Dalton. He's his guy. At this point, John, why?

Like, just play Bryce Young at this point. You're one in six. Like, let, you drafted the young one overall. What's he else he going to learn on the bench? You're getting killed either way. I mean, maybe if you continue to expose him, you'll further reduce his trade value. You know, I mean, but this is bad. I mean, this was a good matchup.

And that's the best you can do, guys. Now you got Denver and that's a bad matchup. And then, you know, New Orleans, maybe, you know, who knows, though? So I think we need to, you know, lower expectations for sure here. We, we, even Deonti. And I kind of like Legate today, like, why wouldn't I? You know, it's a good matchup. It was expected to be a high total.

It did get to 47. Why wouldn't I? I didn't like Deontay. And yet nothing. You know, so, and that's a function of Dalton playing like dog dirt. He didn't even throw 100 yards. Brutal. Terrible.

All right, let's wrap things up here. Kansas City, we said it last week. We'll say it again. It doesn't matter how they do it. They just do it. They're the best team in football. And they're probably going to win the Super Bowl again. 6 and 0 now are the Kansas City Chiefs with a 2818 win in Santa Clara over the 49ers.

Listen, this 49ers team was really hobbled. They didn't have, you know, Brandon I, you got hurt at one point in this game. Who knows, he's pointing at his knee while he gets carded off. He could be dunzo. Debo was sick the whole game, so he barely played. And, you know, Mason was beat up here. And, you know, the litany of injuries for San Francisco. But they fought hard.

you know, that's, but that's what a good play caller does. They get the Jacob Cowings of the world involved, and Ricky Pearsall's catching three balls. So, but if Ayuk is gone, John, that's a big blow to this offense on a day when Juan Jennings didn't even play. Yeah. And Ricky Pearsall would be the pickup. I mean, Debo screwed me on a prop today.

And it's just brutal day. This is brutal. You know, it's a shame because the halftime of the, the first game I'm like you know other than a Christian Kirk prop I'm in looking good here and then things just kind of completely unraveled a lot of it was injuries but Ricky uh you know Ricky was the slot backup but he could play outside you know I had a whole combo about Ricky is one of my favorites all-time interviews just so people know like if you trust my my instincts on unlike the dude I love Ricky like he that's my guy he laughed his ass off when I when I called

him a separatist he said he was going to steal that i said you're welcome to have it um so yeah good offense he can go he can ball you know might be a little volatile but he's a very talented guy great route runner really good hands can run i mean maybe maybe he's not going to be a great separatist outside in the nfl but yeah he would be the pickup regardless uh for iuk jennings or both kiddle though is amazing like wow kiddell I wouldn't have seen this coming like three years ago. Like fast forward three years and kiddo's going to be just like gronk out there every week. Yeah, he looks phenomenal.

And I think this offense now is going to center around. You're going to get CMC back in a few weeks, hopefully. You get him. You get Kittle in the middle of the field here. Maybe we take some shots to our boy Ricky and cowing who can run. But let's talk about the Kansas City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes, again, throws for a buck 54, no touchdowns and two interceptions. I mean, it is as crazy as it sounds.

It's like people don't want to start Patrick Mahomes in fantasy. And I get it. And you know what at this point? You probably shouldn't because he's not helping you. I mean, he ran for a touchdown, John, but this offense, it's Kareem Hunt, 22 carries and two touchdowns for Kareem freaking hunt. I mean, everything. It's a weirdo handoff to this guy and it's a misdirection of that guy.

and it's just Andy Reid dialing up what he can because they don't have a ton of talent on the outside, but he makes it work exactly what Mike McDaniel can't do in Miami. Yeah. It makes it work barely, though. Like they're not calling up great stuff lately as far as I'm concerned. And it's not a great sign when you're coming off the by and you're Xavier Worthy and you still didn't do crap.

I mean, I did get that one right. People were going a little. I was like, you know what? You can have them. I mean, I'll give them a pretty healthy projection here optimistically, because it seems like everyone's optimistic. I'm like, all right. And I was still way behind the ADP.

Like, I mean, I get it to an extent. I understand the appeal, but like, you know, got a got a, I don't think we saw enough signs of it. And it is still a fact that guys like this take a while. Tyree Kill took a while. Rishi Rice didn't take a while because he's a different type of player. You know, but worthy, this is going to be a process here. So I guess expectations are a little too high.

And then Kelsey, oh, what do you do? Now what? Now what? 5.7. Now what the hell do you do with Kelsey? This is brutal. It's tough. It's tough.

Everybody with T.J. Hawkinson, stashed on their bench, is just praying they could dump whatever. that they've been rolling out now. Whether it's Kelsey, whether it's Kincaid, it doesn't matter who it is. I'm putting Hawkinson in there next Thursday. When he comes back, I don't care, John.

I'll start him over anybody at this point. Hawkinson's my new tight end one. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, Kansas, it's not pretty, but they got the, in my money, that's the best defense in football. Kansas City just stymies you.

Oh, just ridiculous. And that's the problem. That's part of the problem. Steve Spagnolo is too freaking good. Killing people out there. Shutting down the run, sending blitzers from all angles, shutting your asses down, converting little-known college corners to stars. I mean, that's the real problem.

It's Spagnolo. It's like a double whammy. You got Spagnolo's so good that they don't need the offense. And the offense stinks anyway because Matt Nagy is so bad. Yeah, coming into the week. In theory. The worst team in the NFL in terms of explosive plays, plays that go over 15 yards with the Kansas City Chiefs.

But there's 6 and 0 and in first place and prime to win a third straight Super Bowl. It's unfreaking believable out there. But, well, John, that's a week of analysis. I want to get you over to your TV so you can watch the Dodgers and the Mets and see what happens here. And who's going to come play my Yankees in the World Series? Come on. Who wants some?

Who wants some of Soto and Big Chief? I think it'll, I think it'll be L.A. I was just cursing earlier, but they did in the bottom of the first score two runs, and they have two on here with Andy Pahez, who looks like he's about 42, but he's a young guy who hit two homers the other night. Look at this. All right. So, well, you guys already know so you can tweet at Fantasy underscore Guru,

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