Fantasy Football Daily - Fantasy Landscape: Tight Ends | Hansen's Hints Podcast

Episode Date: April 2, 2024

John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) analyzes the TE landscape early in the 2024 off-season with regards to drafting for best ball and dynasty. SIGN UP FOR FANTASY POINTS IN 2024 AT OUR EARLY-BIRD RATE, INCLU...DING OUR NEW ALL-IN PACKAGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:07 It's time to the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoint.com. Top-level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room, with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. Hey, what's up? I'm John Hanson. Welcome to another edition of Hanson's Hints here at FantasyPoint.com. We are into the month of April, and I have been with. working on early run projections for the 2024 campaign. We have the bulk of free agency in the rear view. Most of the relevant moves have already been made.
Starting point is 00:00:53 A couple of stragglers aside. So I get as much done as I possibly can before the NFL draft. So I thought I would pop in here and give you a quick early look at the positions. I did skip over the running backs and the wide receivers because they're going to take a long-ass time. but I already did do a podcast on the quarterbacks comparing early ADP to my very, very early projections. And quickly, before I get into the tight ends this year in the landscape, just a brief overview of what I'm doing here. I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel. These are baseline projections. I try to make everything line up in terms of, let's say, if I'm going to give a team
Starting point is 00:01:39 600 pass attempts, I want to make sure the target shares are accurately represented among all the players. So, for example, when I look at the tight ends, I mean, it's, again, it's not rocket science here. I look at where they were in terms of points pass attempts per game. For example, Sam Laporte here, my notes last year they were at 33.5 past attempts per game. So I try to figure out, okay, will we be higher or lower than that? He was sixth in Target share last year for what it's worth at 19.5%. Again, will he be higher or lower? I would say in Leportez's case, maybe slightly lower as James Williams emerges.
Starting point is 00:02:26 But clearly, my man is carved out a pretty darn large role, especially due to that 8.6% touchdown rate last year. 10 tuttys did Sammy Laporta score. Now, again, that would be probably, actually it is because I already did it. An example of you got to bake in a little regression here because if my man is rolling with an eight point, I mean, that's better probably than Travis Kelsey in his career. So he's probably going to drop a little bit. So I have to drop that.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So that's the crux of it. I'm looking at targets, target share, catch rates, yards per reception, yards per target, things like that. I do go into the fantasy points data suite and check out other things, route participation, routes run per dropback, trying to understand the players role on the team, A dot, average depth of target, all kinds of data. You know, you could suffer some paralysis by overanalysis, but I know how to kind of get right down to the crux of the matter.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Like, for example, fantasy points per round. outrun. It's a pretty juicy stat right there. But yeah, the tight ends last year, as we do a little review, did well, obviously. It was a great year for those tight ends out there with a lot more zone coverage, number one. I think that really, really helped out the tight ends this past year. And more two deep safeties, of course. Basically, teams, in my opinion, are kind of daring other teams, offenses, to throw to the tight end. And I think it's not a coincidence that we had a real good breakout year for a lot of dudes. I mean, we had the greatest rookie season in the history of the NFL with the aforementioned Sam
Starting point is 00:04:18 Laporta. No offense to Sam Leporta. He's a damn good player and he rolled out of bed as a solid tight end one. Dude got double-digit targets in his first game. But we're not going to, you know, replicate that touchdown percentage. we were helped out by, you know, being in an ideal situation, team that has a great O line, runs the ball really well, and has a quarterback who is a professional and delivers the ball very well between the numbers.
Starting point is 00:04:48 So things really worked out extremely well for Sam Roperter, but he wasn't the only one here, just looking over not even the league leaders, if you will. I'm just looking at target share percentage last year. T.J. Hawkinson was a monster, actually led the NFL. Evan Ingram. I actually liked Evan Ingram this past year. He was good. Second highest target share percentage.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Dude was all over the place. He had to have been way up there in terms of like, well, everything. Routes Run. Well, there go. He was number one in Routes Run. Moving down the board, we had a nice little breakout season by David Najoku, who also was on my list, believe it or not. Not that I reported that much in September.
Starting point is 00:05:34 October when he wasn't doing that much, but I did have him on my list as one of my top targets. I also had Sam LaPorteur on my list, but I actually apologized because, yeah, he was on my list of targets. I narrowed down the top 300 to like 70, but I wish I pushed him a lot more. George Kittle had a great year. We had a breakout once Zach Hertz was cleared out of the way, season by Tray McBride. We also had a little bit of a break, actually a full on breakout from my guy, Jake Ferguson. If you listen to me on Sirius XM satellite radio, the fall of 2020, I kept saying that they were going to likely let Dalton Schultz walk and that Jake Ferguson
Starting point is 00:06:14 was sneaky good. And they did draft Luke Muskrad of a little word about that. But the cream rose to the top there. We had some buzz kills, no doubt. A couple of my favorite picks on the low end, underwhelmed, although, you know, I actually went back. Chigia Concoe was pretty close. to my projection, but he was not reliable at all.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I mean, that's what we're looking for at this position. You could take a shot on a Joanne Johnson, you know, 180 picks into the draft. You're probably going to throw that pick away. I did like Johnson as well. And, you know, he did come on late again. There were some great chemistry with Derek Carr, but that just didn't really work out. So others to get to here as we look toward 2024. But obviously, we are doing.
Starting point is 00:07:01 these projections. What I'm looking to do this time of the year is as many get deep under the hood for as many projections for players that I do not think will be affected by the NFL draft. So there were certainly some situations I had to avoid. So it's not a complete picture. But most of the teams that I didn't do projection wise are teams that are in need of tight end or have ugly committees. and a lot of them will be addressing the position in the draft, and it's not that great of a draft class. I'm going to get to the rookies in a moment. So real quick, I did not bother to do Carolina.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Can we please get rid of these scrubs, no offense, that we have in Carolina. I'm sick. I can't do Tommy Trembal anymore. Can't do it. Cue the Mike Singletary. Ian Thomas, no. Go away, dude.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Steve Sullivan, you can leave. too and Jordan Matthews the former receiver I can't believe you're on the roster congratulations Cincinnati Bengals no offense to Mike Kisicki I've very proud of myself that I've never fallen for Mike Kiskeke it's like the fantasy football banana in a tailpipe one week a look at him he looks like a world beater out there that's why I nicknamed him flash Kassiki because he'll flash and then he'll disappear for six weeks so that is an interesting pickup there by the Bengals but we'll see if they do in the draft. By the way, if they have access to Brock Bowers at 18, man,
Starting point is 00:08:35 I just, I don't know how you don't make that move. Denver, I kind of held off because, man, what an ugly year from Greg Dulcich. I'm not sure if Sean Payton is viewing him at this juncture as his next Jimmy Graham, basically, which was what the thought was last year. We'll see what they do in the draft. Maybe Dulcich emerges as a big winner.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Another real key one here is Indy. uh, Jelani Woods missed the entire season with a hamstring. I don't even know if I could recall anybody, uh, missing the entirety of the season with a hamstring, but that was Jolani Woods. Uh,
Starting point is 00:09:12 I would imagine it's, uh, nice and, nice and rested, uh, dude hasn't played in a real game, uh, in,
Starting point is 00:09:18 geez, I don't even know how the year, nine months, but, uh, I do personally like Will Mallory a lot, uh, met him at the combine,
Starting point is 00:09:28 great dude, uh, And he showed some signs this past year. He actually made some plays. Duke and run, no question. Just not sure if he's ever going to be like a tight end one, number one tight end. So we'll see what the Colts do.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I did avoid doing the chargers, probably because it's annoying with Donald Parham, Jr., Will Disley, and Haydenhurst in the mix. I guess they're done. But honestly, full disclosure, I'm putting that off to the last minute because, again,
Starting point is 00:09:58 It's going to be annoying quagmire here with three viable guys in a pretty conservative offense, you would think, with Mr. Harbaugh coming there to L.A. I also avoided the Rams. We do have a Tyler Higby ACL return. I'm not sure about that. Miami, I didn't bother. Actually, didn't do with Johnny Smith one. Not that anyone should be that excited about Johnny Smith.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I had held off on T.J. Hawkinson for the Vikings. I didn't do the Saints in case they drafted tight. end. They've got Taysome Hill and Juan Johnson Fossomero. Maybe they don't. The Giants with Darren Waller's history or history. There I go. Freud didn't slip. He is probably going to be history,
Starting point is 00:10:40 but with his career kind of hanging in the balance, Darren, you won't hear this and you don't give a rat's ass what I say. Hang them up, dude. Do not torture us anymore. That was pretty bad last year where the vibes were so good
Starting point is 00:10:55 right up until the Friday before the opener when he pulled up with that hamming injury. Had the hamstring come up in early August? Nope, that out, out, but it was a pristine month of August and then some dipping in the September for Darren Waller. So I was in and I regretted it more than anything else last year, quite frankly. And then finally, I would imagine that the DC commanders will finally, I mean, enough on Logan, Tom.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It was a good shot. He was a good athlete, former quarterback, drafted by Bruce Ariens, made some plays. Duke cannot stay healthy, well over 30 now. And we do need to update. I mean, we do have Zach Hertz, who'll probably be a tight end one in September and then fade away. There's a piece of advice for you. Draft Zach Hertz in round 18, trade him after week five, because that's kind of been his deal right now. No offense, we do love Zach Earth. Of course, I have not yet done the rookies, not the best class. I thought it would be interesting here while we're talking tight ends to go back and look at previous years.
Starting point is 00:12:05 This is not considered a good class. I think Brock Bowers is one of the best tight end prospects who's ever come across my desk. That is for sure. But I'm not feeling much with Jetavian Sanders at a Texas or Jeheme Bell at a Florida state. they'll probably be day two picks or the second third, fourth tight ends off the board. For what it's worth,
Starting point is 00:12:30 I like my two guys I like on the very low end in terms of the class are Cade Stover for the Ohio State Buckeyes. Normally blocking tight ends, I think he might have a chance to be a viable receiving tight ends. And then Senate, K State, who I did watch practice in person at the Senior Bowl. I thought he moved very well. I kind of like AJ Barner,
Starting point is 00:12:53 but he's more of a blocking tight end. We'll see where these guys go. They're very landing spot dependent, of course. But without any further ado, let me get into my very early look, first run at tight end projections and compare them in the rankings at the very least to the early on markets.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Well, right at the top here, Sam Leporta is the, top dude off the board. No surprise. 32 overall. I do think that's a little rich. I must say, we're not repeating the 8.6 touchdown rate. We're going to come down to Earth just a little bit. I think I had his targets down just a little, very close. I mean, I had him down by like six targets. So really it comes down to the touchdowns. And I am projecting it's, to be, well, not as fruitful in terms of scoring 10 touchdowns, basically. Dude had that massive touchdown rate.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I am projecting. Let's take a look here. There it is. Again, keep in mind, too, we're not projecting career years ever, just like I'm not projecting, you know, a tight end to have a big game, which is frustrating when, you know, a guy like Travis Kelsey scores three touchdowns or two with like eight grand. grabs for 180, like, you just can't project that. So we keep things minimized, very, very realistic.
Starting point is 00:14:28 83 grabs, 865, 7 touchdowns, 2001 fantasy points. Only, only my 10 and 3. I will say too early on. I think he's slightly a little overvalued. Travis Kelsey comes in at number two, and that's exactly where he is on my board. you do worry a little bit about we don't worry but i think um it was quite revealing when they gave him that week off last year and he had like a little vacation i love that he go hang out with taylor for a little bit a few days but he certainly was back when the playoffs started so i think they're
Starting point is 00:15:07 going to manage the workload more than ever i mean i'm even thinking because who knows they're the chiefs they can do whatever the hell they want at this point it works during the buy week give an extra a buy. I mean, probably dumb, dumb idea there, but they're going to manage the workload. I do believe. So I only went with 88 grabs only, once again, for the 35-year-old, for 9.45 and 8 touchdowns, 230 fantasy points. It was just behind the number one guy and just ahead, well, comfortably ahead of Sammy Leporta, which brings us to Trey McBride, who is the number three tied end per the early ADP, but I have
Starting point is 00:15:51 Trey McBride, numero uno, and I am also baking in to the equation that they draft a stud wide receiver. This is a case where I want them to draft Marvin Harrison, who'll command coverage. He'll
Starting point is 00:16:07 dictate it at times. Michael Wilson could be, I think, a good two. But, I mean, come on, Tray McBride, you know, absolutely unbelievable season last year and you can't even go off of the entirety of the season because he was playing second fiddle to Zach Gertz
Starting point is 00:16:27 I think it was week seven if I let's just say week eight on where was Trey McBride let's say after week eight where was Trey McBride in terms of target share number one my was getting the ball on a weekly basis and it was like five catches for 55 were like you know
Starting point is 00:16:55 that was a baseline here um for that dude here um first read target chair uh big time there as well uh but i think uh we're looking at one 100 catches here from tray mcbride that's what i have 100 grabs uh 10 55 four and a half tutties i had the notes here somewhere but i can't find them but um all all lined up pretty darn well in terms of what what i looked at again i'm not these aren't really bold takes they're all in line with you know past performance current role obviously offensive system and their acumen and all that we take a look at the game logs here for Trey McBride and we see that the dude was getting bombarded with targets starting week eight 14 targets 10 grabs then we had a nine target for eight for 133 game then we had another
Starting point is 00:17:59 nine target game seven for 60 another nine target game week 13 eight for 89 with a touch then we had an 11 target game dude caught 12 or 10 of the balls for one over 10. two eight target game with six catches seven target game with six catches and then a six target game in the finale with only three for 34 but the guy scored so from week eight on let's take a look here as I do this kind of multitasking live from week eight on in terms of points per game how close was that to where I have him for the entirety of the 24 season now by the way while I'm calling all this up Do keep in mind another reason I think the tight ends are looking good here. I think we'll continue to see those two deep safeties, a lot of zone,
Starting point is 00:18:46 but also the hip drop tackle being banned could help a bunch of athletic tight ends like Trey McBride. I mean, it was probably banned because Mark Andrews got seriously injured and knocked out. So this could also, I believe, help out those tight ends. So let's take a look here from Week 9.5. nine on. Where was Trey McBride? Well, he was balling out, I can tell you that, and
Starting point is 00:19:15 getting a lot of targets. Two, competent quarterback play helped once Kyla Murray returned. But here it is. He wasn't up there. He was third in targets. 56 grabs, 560, a couple of tuttees
Starting point is 00:19:30 that worked out to 13.8 fantasy points per game. I think I'm probably messing this up by maybe a week, but we'll see where I'm at here. 232 is what I have projected for Trey McBride. Tabs here working like, I'm literally doing
Starting point is 00:19:47 a million things right now at once here, but it's all good. There you go. 13.6. So I have him just slightly better than what he averaged down the stretch in his final nine games. So there it is. That's more than half the season. And by the way, in those final
Starting point is 00:20:04 name games, he was on pace for 11 grabs for 1100 yards and granted only four tuttees. So Trey McBride, your tight end number one, and that again is baking into the equation that they draft Marvin Harrison. For the record, four and a half touchdowns for Trey McBride. I know that's annoying. He only had three last year, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:30 and the touchdown percentage in the career hasn't been that great, with only four Tuddies on 110 grabs. So that's under 4%. Touchdown percentage. But again, that's exactly. I have him right around there, basically, four and a half percent. So moving on, I wouldn't say McBride is an incredible value, by the way, because he is going off the board about around and a half after La Porta,
Starting point is 00:20:55 but he's a better value than La Porta. And I'm going to take him over Kelsey as well, just because I'm an ageist. Mark Andrews comes in next at four. I am a little worried about that one. I think we do worry about availability. the shifting offensive philosophy, do they go with more two, three, tight-end sets?
Starting point is 00:21:15 I mean, they've got three great ones as a group, including Charlie Kohler and Isaiah likely. Of course, Derek Henry, you know, you never know. It's going to be touchdown dependent a little bit with Mark Andrews, who's been a great touchdown guy. And I'm giving them touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I'm giving them love, but I might be a little overvalued here. Got to bake in some time this, too. I gave him 15 games, 68 grabs, 847 touchdowns, only my tight-in six in my early run. Next up is the tight-in five, who I currently have is the tight-in four, and I'm all in. Dalton Kincaid. I've got him with 88 grabs for 935, three and a half grabs. I've got my notes here. You know, what struck me about Kincaid is,
Starting point is 00:21:59 you know, he came on down the stretch, did real well, especially when Joe Brady took over. But, man, there was just so much room to grow, you know, 2.7 touchdown percentage, for example. I think that was, you know, a big one. I think the target share, I mean, that is an interesting one. We'll see what they do in the draft and all that. But and there were other data points too. Like, you know, he was surprisingly not as much of an air yards guy, for example, which I know that's not totally his game.
Starting point is 00:22:31 He's a run after the catch guy. But I think we could do a little bit better. than where he was that again that was my takeaway out of only 43rd an air yard share uh target percentage not great way down the board here only 25th I mean come on I mean this is where you're looking at a guy with with room to grow targets per route run out of let's call it 112 tight ends I mean only 50 first so again um of course the catch rate how about the catch rate 21st out of 112 and I bet you if we exclude if we only include dudes who had like at least 25 catches I bet you is way up there let's take a look Dalton Kincaid with that badass catch rate
Starting point is 00:23:23 number one among all tight ends who had at least I guess 25 catches 18 of them there you go oh man Kyle Pitts dead last wow Evan Ingram was second, by the way. So that's the first guy that really excites me this year, is Dalton Kincaid. I can see him basically being like a high volume big slot, if you will. Like, don't forget, Josh Allen used to love the pepper to ball to Cole Beasley underneath stuff. Yeah. And that is Dalton Kincaid's game a little bit.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I like to see a little bit more air yards. But, you know, he's playing with Josh Allen. so I'm in on that one and there's a little bit of a value here. The aforementioned Kyle Pitts is the fifth tight end of the board. I'm into, I'm encouraged. Certainly. I've got them at five. So I'm one spot higher than the markets.
Starting point is 00:24:20 It went through all the data. Obviously, we could look at his rookie year with decrepit Kirk Cousins, if you will. No offense, Matt Ryan. But when Matt Ryan was in his last year, he was very comparable to, Kirkie probably worse so we're getting an upgrade from that rookie season in which he had the second most yards in the history of the world so i'm in on kyle pits george kittle is next at the tight end seven i've got him a little lower at tight end nine evan ingram i'm right there with the markets at tight end eight brock bowers i haven't done yet um david nojoku i've got him at titan ten
Starting point is 00:24:58 right there with the markets here's a small value perhaps not totally sold on it but Everything we saw last year was good from Jake Ferguson. And I was a Jake Ferguson guy coming out, talk fantasy with him at the Combine, by the way. He was into that. Barry Alvarez's grandson, bawling for Wisconsin. I'm always impressed by that.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah, and look, how can you not be impressed with what he did with Dak Prescott last year? Dak Prescott, as I've always noticed and said this about him, I used to call Jason Witt in his blankie, because my man needs his tight end safety valve security blanket it over the middle field and certainly Jake Ferguson did a hell of a job last year. Is the arrow still pointing up?
Starting point is 00:25:41 That's the question. I'm going to bake in a slightly yes, but we do have Luke Schumacher there lurking. Dalton or Dallas Goddard? I'm not feeling it with Dallas Goddard. I think we're done with Dallas gotter. No offense. Another guy, I chopped it up with the combine. Great dude.
Starting point is 00:25:58 But it's like he's 40 out there. Like he gets hurt a lot. Seems to be slowing down just a little. bit in my opinion. So also has had plenty of injury problems, of course. So there it is. I'm not feeling Dallas Goddard, Dalton Schultz. This is a little bit of a temporary one. I'm not particularly into him, you know, I'm not sure how much he's going to totally command the ball here, but he's fine. You know, I'm sure the target share was pretty good for him, probably, I'm going to guess, 15th. Yeah, he's all right, you know, tied in 13 on the ADP early on. I've got him 11.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I did not do T.J. Hawkinson, just waiting on a little bit more injury information. I probably won't get that until after we release these. So I guess at some point I'm going to have to go in there and guess a projected number of games. I mean, the real question there is, are we looking at PUP or not? Cole Commit is the tight end 15. I don't like Cole Commit, but right now I've got them at 13. Keep in mind, I don't have Brock Bowers ranked. So that's one.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Patty Fryermuth, to shame. I like Pat Fryermuth. They're going to need them. So I'm giving them a little bit of love here, but I'm right with the markets at tight end 16. We'll see what they do in the draft, of course. They're going to need another tight end, most likely. I've got him with 46 grabs, 475,
Starting point is 00:27:23 nothing is spectacular, three touchdowns. Here's an interesting one. Tight end 17 off the board. Currently my tight end 12. Keep in mind, I haven't done like Hockinson and Bowers, but Luke Musgrave for the Green Bay Packers. I wish I could be a little higher on them, but, you know, Tucker Kraft was pretty damn good last year.
Starting point is 00:27:43 But I was a Musgrave person. I actually kind of had him neck and neck with Kincaid for a lot of the offseason. I couldn't decide who I like more. I actually did decide on Kincaid finally, the last few weeks before the draft, but I definitely like Luke Musgrave a lot. And, you know, he did well last year again.
Starting point is 00:28:00 It is a little bit of a lot. jam there at receiver but you know the cream will rise at the top michael mayor i'd be more into but unfortunately they uh went ahead and um sign who the hell they'd sign again harrison bryant who i've always liked i falsely popped propped up but he is a good red zone guy so that is a little bit of a problem with michael mayor we do not like the canceling out of tight ends basically like Isaiah likely, by the way, is tight end 20. I don't know what people are looking at. He's not going to be tight end 20 if Mark Andrews is relatively healthy.
Starting point is 00:28:37 So I've got him only at 25. Hunter Henry, they did resign him. So got him a tight end 20, one spot over the markets. And then here are a couple of more. Kate Otten, tight end 19 for me. That is where he's at for the ADP. Here's one. And there's a lot to be determined.
Starting point is 00:28:58 because this team could take Brock Bowers. But currently the tight end 24, and I'm going to, I projected it as if they didn't take Brock Bowers. It's the Jets and it's Tyler Conklin, who I was very high on last year, and he was good. I actually liked him last year too,
Starting point is 00:29:14 the year before, but I can't remember what happened there. Crappy quarterback play, I guess. But, and I heard this from people close to the team, like, had Aaron Rogers not gotten hurt, we'd be talking a lot more about Tyler Conklin. put it this way they're very high on him we were told you know their analytics people really liked him uh and they view him as a weapon so i think aaron rogers is going to be looking for tyler conklin so
Starting point is 00:29:38 there's a quick value for you if you're doing best ball drafts right now i mean there's some risk involved they do take brock powers they're the jets they probably will but man if they don't and conclin's in the driver seat for the tight in one spot we're looking good there and then you know i know he underwhelmed last year but chigia concoe i mean the numbers weren't that bad. I can actually look now to see how far off I was because I was pretty high on Chiggy. They did add a bunch of weapons.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I think people are looking at it like, okay, Calvin Ridley now, full year, a D-Hop. Just not going to be a ton of production to go around. But they also lost Derek Henry. So they're going to be throwing it a little bit more than we think. And I thought he had some moments with Will Levis last year. So let's take a look at where I was with him.
Starting point is 00:30:28 sometimes I'm afraid to look at this in terms of my total projected points for Chiggy. I have not looked at this yet. I'm afraid to. Sometimes, okay. I had him with 148 fantasy points. I have not looked. Let's see what he ended up getting on the season. Chiggy Akonkwo.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Where are you at? Chiggy. It's not good. 113. So yeah, okay. We thought we overextended ourselves and we did. But I'll tell you what, though, I don't think we did all that much, but the touchdowns. I mean, he had 54 grabs.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I don't have it in front of me, but that's not too far off of where I had him. That was 15th most, yardage wise, 18th most. I mean, the dude scored one touchdown. That was a real problem. But not a horrible choice. I don't think they're going to do much of tight end in the draft, obviously. They've got plenty of other needs. So best ball of value, not too shabby.
Starting point is 00:31:28 One other, Noah Fant, remember him, tight end 21. He is tight end 26 off the board. So we will be adding some dudes here between these youngins. And if you follow me, I'm an ageist. I'm all about the young ones. I mean, we're looking good at tight end here, given the state of the NFL, how defenses are playing the opposing offenses, and a lot of talented guys who can run and are athletic.
Starting point is 00:31:55 between Sam Leporta, Trey McBride, Kyle Pitts, I still put him as a young player, Brock Bowers. You know, we could throw Musgrave on that list. We could probably throw Jake Ferguson
Starting point is 00:32:10 on that list. Pretty exciting group here. And of course, we still have some solid standbys like Kelsey and Mandrews and Kittle. They're still hanging in there. And then boring yet productive guys. Like,
Starting point is 00:32:24 I hate to say it, Evan Ingram, he seems boring. Well, you know what's not boring? Leading the NFL with 143 targets, because that's what Evan Ingram did last year. Also not boring is catching 114 balls to lead the NFL as Evan Ingram did last year. And he was also third in yards. And he scored four touchdowns. So big year for Evan Ingram.
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Starting point is 00:33:44 Stay tuned to the feed. A lot of great draft content coming through here on the podcast and all the videos. And I'll be back for another edition of the podcast. I'm going to do running backs next week. I'm going to try and barrel through as many as I can. That will be a little bit more of an incomplete group. Then we'll hit on the wide receivers. But until then, I'm John Hanson.
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