Fantasy Football Daily - Fantasy Points Podcast | Adam Schefter

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

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This is John Hanson on this week's episode of the Fantasy Points podcast with my co-host, Brian Drake, the great Adam Schaefter of ESPN will wax poetic about the old days when Adam and I worked together for a couple of years when he was a Broncos insider. And we'll talk ADPs. We'll talk a lot of players here like CMC. Is he in or out on George Pickens? Kairn Williams in the Rams backfield, Kyle Pitts, whether he's in or out. And we'll also, Brian and I cover the best ball draft plan article that was recently posted up at Fantasy Points. So check it out and you're welcome.

All across the fantasy universe, welcome one and all to the Fantasy Points podcast. I'm your host, Brian Drake, joined as always by the guru, the publisher of Fantasy Points. dot com, Mr. John Hanson. And folks, we got a show for you today. So sit back, relax, and enjoy senior NFL insider, host of the Adam Schaefter podcast that may give it away, the only man I have notification set four on X and the soon to be champion of the 16 team ESPN War Room League, Mr. Adam Schaefter. He's going to join us on the show today.

John, what's going on? You ready to chop it up with your old pal Schifty? Oh, I am absolutely ready. And let's bring them on now. What's up, Adam? How are you? Great to see you. It's time to talk football again while we talk at 12 months a year.

But how are you? How are you guys doing? Thank you for having me. Thank you for the kind words. And I would love to see that championship happen in the war room. It came very close last year. I got failed by the Denver Broncos wide receivers. I picked the wrong wide receiver.

I went with Brandon Johnson. It was that day that I think Little Jordan Humphrey scored a touchdown. on Brandon Johnson got down to the one-yard line. If Brandon Johnson got in, I win. I didn't make the dumb decision based off my conversations with the Seahawks to bench Kenneth Walker and play C-J-Spears. I win. But I outthought it. I tensed up in a championship spot and I regret it and we'll be better for it if we can find a way to get back to that game.

Well, let's go right there, Brian and Adam. Let's get into Adam Schaefter's life as a fantasy football fanatic because I've told this story on the air once or twice. But in that week for that weekend, I was trying to offer up any advice I could give to Adam trying to use the power of the fantasy points of data suite, looking at the data. And it was absolutely hysterical. We're on calls. Adam is is working in coaches to ask questions and all that. And I know Brian had the question in that league when you make a waiver wire move or or try to make a trade do the people in that league all all ESPN people of course are they suspicious that you know something that they don't not really uh yeah listen i i think there's

so much knowledge right now amongst everybody like i listen to your show john you know and i'm learning about rookies and you know we we see an injury on a sunday and everybody knows okay well who the number two running back is now sometimes sometimes sometimes there are certain guys that you are on and invested in emotionally and try to get in your drafts. And I remember going into, I don't know what year would have been. It would have been, I'm going to guess, seven, eight years ago. But I told everybody that I knew draft Alvin Camaro. Just draft them.

Just get them. Like I have people who come up to me to this day and say, you know, I took Alvin Camaro in the last round. and thank you very much. I endorsed the last two years. I was a year early, but I stayed with him last year, Kiron Williams. There wasn't a bigger Kyrin Williams champion than me.

There wasn't anybody that was more invested in that guy than me. And in fact, that somebody came up to me just a couple weeks ago, and they're like, I remember seeing you the day of the season open two years ago, and you told me pick up Kairn Williams and Kairn Williams that night, the Rams were opening up at home Thursday night.

defending Super Bowl champs and he broke his foot on the opening kick, missed six weeks, and really never became a factor. But last year, we saw what he was, and he was on my teams. And I took him in the last round of my drafts last year. So I think every year there's a guy or two last year, my last round pick, very last pick in the war room, the 16 team league draft. So it goes however many rounds that is. So we're talking about the 235th selection or so.

Yeah. Jake Ferguson, that worked out. Okay. That's our guy. Yeah, we absolutely love him. Yeah. Well, Adam, let's just get into it. I know you love talking ball.

You love talking fantasy. You mentioned Kyra Williams. What did you think of the Blake Corum edition here? And how do you think they'll handle it? My opinion would be that probably still Kyron Williams' job, but I could see Blake Corum getting a couple of series here and there to spell. Williams? Absolutely. If Williams goes down, Corum's a league winner, I think. I agree on all that. I mean, here's the thing. I don't know that Kyron Williams is built to have the type of workload that

he had last year. And in a perfect world, you're not doing that. You know, you're giving Kyra Williams, I think, 15 touches a game in a perfect world. And so I think Blake Coram allows me to do that. And so could I see if it works out the way that the Rams want, I could see Kyran getting 15, touches. I could see Corum getting six to eight touches, and that would be the way that I would see it, barring an injury one way or another. They have to spread it around. They have to try to preserve Kyle Williams. I think he's great. Love Carter and Williams. Still love Carter and Williams, tremendous back, but they have to try to preserve him, and selecting Blake Corum helps accomplish that. How about Stafford last year, man? He was on an absolute mission. And, I mean, you kind of

thought the career was going on the descent there, but he's like, no, no, no, no. No, I'm going to bring the extra juice. I mean, I think we all kind of saw it coming in the summer, right? He was kind of on a mission last year. I think people don't realize how good he was last year. I remember speaking to some front offices, some coaches, and they're like, you know, Matthew Stafford is an elite quarterback, elite, and people don't give him the credit

that he deserves for being as great as he is. You know, Matthew Stafford is playing himself into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in my mind. And when you talk to coaches, they have great respect and regard for his talents and abilities. All right, everybody. Hold that thought. When we come back on the other side, more with the guru, John Hanson. Well, we could spin it forward with that same team. We saw last year, Adam, the emergence of Puka Nakua.

If folks were out here listening to our guy, Brett Whitefield, all over the Fantasy Points podcast network on Sirius XM, he was talking up Pooka Nakua. And I think people didn't really understand. They're like, man, this guy, you know, he's a mid-round pick. It comes out of nowhere. Now you'll look at his ADP. He's coming off the board on underdog at him. He's wide receiver's sixth.

He's a top 10 pick. If Cooper Cubs fully healthy and, you know, they've improved the line a little bit. You're still buying Pooka and Kua as a top 10 pick this year? I am. And, you know, here's the great part about it. I go back to last year. And this, John, is where sometimes it is an advantage to have my job, right? So I remember speaking to the Rams the week before my drafts.

I'm like, okay, I always like to go back to the team. Who are we feel really good about this year? And so they said to, I'll never forget this. I mean, damn, it was a huge deal. They go, well, we love, Sean loves, carom-in-laying, I'm like, well, we're all in there. I go, what about wide receiver? Because there seems to be an opening.

And I had one of their highest ranking members on the phone. And he goes, well, we really like Puka. But we love Tutu Atwell. We love Tutu Atwell. Sean's going to get him the ball regularly, and 2-2 is going to be awesome. And I'm like, you got it. So last year, my last two picks,

my last three picks in the war room with Kyron Williams, Tutu Atwell, and Jake Ferguson. Now, can you imagine if Kyron Williams, Pooka Nakua and Jake Ferguson. Like it's over. They kick you out of the league. It's over. So the point of that story, the point of that story is, I always say sometimes the more you know, the less you know, as we know personally from the Kenneth Walker experience where I had the coaches and the front office on the phone in the last week.

And they didn't feel good about Kenneth Walker staying on the field. And I took him out of my line up. He scored two touchdowns, right? So he surprised even his own organization that day. But, you know, I had my Rams guy on the phone. and he endorsed two-two over, and I reminded him a couple of times. I'm like, two-two over puka, really, really.

Like, and two-two was good early. He was good the first half of you. He wasn't puka, but he was good. Right. He was a little role player, smaller guy. I mean, most of these smaller receivers, they can't really handle all that much. By the way, while we're still talking about that war room thing,

I did want to mention one little thing. I was trying to get you to start and pick up and start Greg Dorch and I believe you would have won but someone picked him up in the consolation bracket which is the absolute worst. Yeah, you know, that is, I'm not going to name any names,

but there are certain people that do that. And that really pisses me off. Like, if you lose, stay out, man. You're like, you're done. Let the people who are trying to win win. Like, that is a, that's a pet peeve of mind, consolation BS. Give me a break.

Yeah. I'll name name someone who does that in our, I League. Adam Kaplan does that until we changed the setting so we had to block it. So, uh, good for you. That, that should be, that should be a rule that is enacted in fancy. Are you lose? I can't stand that. Oh my God. It's the worst. It's the worst. Greg Dorch, uh, against your Philly Eagles, Brian, I think I, I think you got like 16 points, but let's move on here. I'm going off the ADP board here in terms of the interesting players to talk about. And the first rookie is in fact of course Marvin Harrison of course you and I Adam are old enough we covered his

dad the entirety of his dad's career I loved him by the way I was a I was anti-kishon Johnson that year because I am a separatist but I love the Harrison pick I'm in even at this ridiculous ADP of like 14 overall I call it we have 14 is what he's going 14 wow yeah I know I know but we have what I call the fantasy DNA sample. We already know he's going to be good because we have seen the DNA. You know, here's the issue with that. And it very well may turn out to be a good selection. I'm not arguing with any of that. But when you're using the 14th pick to me, you have to go known quantity. Like last year, we have a very similar situation with Bejohn Robinson. That was about his ADP last year, if I'm not mistaken. Very true. And people are like, I'm taking

Bija. And I last year didn't touch Bijon anywhere. First and foremost, I remember speaking to someone in the Falcons. Like, we spread the ball around. Like, that's not what I want to hear for the 14th pick or wherever I'm going to be taking Bijan. But I'm a little apprehensive. I

think I've learned my lesson. Now, sometimes you're going to get burnt. Like, if you took Jamir Gibbs at 14 last year, you win. You win. Right. But it's hard, it's hard to go 14 on a guy who hasn't played an NFL game. He might be Randy Moss or he might be something way less than that. We don't know.

Yeah. So to me, John, high picks are known quantities. And I guess Marvin Harrison Jr. is something of an off. He's not a known quantity at the NFL level yet. I'm sorry. He's just not. That's true. I think it's a function of the talent drop off there at wide receiver.

It does fall off a little bit once you get past Lamb, Hill, Chase, Jefferson, Brown, Wilson, Brown, A.J. Brown, Puka, you know, maybe Drake London, Devonte Adams. Yeah. You know, I love Iyuk, but I mean, who's going to get more targets? I yuk or Marvin Harrison Jr. I almost like Marvin Harrison Jr. I almost say Marvin By the way, how many receivers do you just name there for me? So what, if it goes that way, Marvin Harrison Jr.'s wide receiver or what, 10? 11, 12. Yeah, he is wide receiver 9. That's a little aggressive, but I probably would still take,

use a second round pick on Harrison. And by the way, you mentioned Gibbs, too. You know, in retrospect, if you drafted Gibbs last year through, I think, six weeks, he was like RB38. You were, you were hating it. Correct. So that was a great play to trade for. Correct.

And one league I have a guy that always takes, always takes the rookies. And I knew that he would take Jamir Gibbs. And he did. And I remember him texting me about that point in the season, four or five, and he's like, what did I do? What did I do? And I'm like, that's why I don't take. rookies with pick 12, 13. I just don't. I don't believe in it. Now, again, he justified it in the end,

but it took a long time. Now, you know, I bring up my album, Kamara, example, it was last round. You're not talking about anything. Big deal. Oh, it's 14th round pick. Right. Whatever. It's fine. But to go pick one or two on a rookie, boy, I mean, it's, it's just, it's, it's aggressive for me. Yeah. By the way, like, let's just chart out the path back to Marvin Harrison Jr. could Who are they? Who else they have? Michael Wilson, who I like. Your boy, Greg Dorch.

Greg Dorch who I liked. They just added another word. Zay Jones. Zee Jones. Like, they have some guys. They do. Right? That are pretty.

Michael Wilson's a baller. I like that guy a lot. He is. Okay? So what if Marvin Harrison comes in and makes it back and catches 55 balls for 800 yards and eight TDs and has a good? And it looks good. Yeah.

And you say, well, he's a good player. He's going to be really good. He's even better the second year when we're going to be on him. Right. But was that worth the, was that worth wide receiver nine? No. Man, I don't know. Yeah.

Look, based on what you're saying and based on a lot of instances like commit Jemir Gibbs, the play is fade these dudes and then knock on the person's door who, who has them out rostered and buy them on the cheap after like week five for the stretch run. maybe they start hitting. If you can do that, but the person, the person in all probability is going to have invested a high pick. They're going to be pissed on. They're going to be going to hold on to him.

Like that my friend last year, I probably could have traded for Jemir Gibbs, but I was turned off. And I don't want to, even then, I'm like, I'm not training for that guy. All right. All signs in that offense may point to another massive year for Trey McBride. And there were folks last year. Also on my team last year. Also on my team last year, by the way.

So, Adam, I want to ask, you know, you do a lot of best ball. You're also in this big 16 team league. where do you stand on drafting a tight end? There's some folks who'll say, I'll never draft a tight end early. I know last year we brought it up on our last podcast, John, I believe there were 11 tight ends in PPR that averaged double digits last season.

So, Adam, where do you fall with tight end? Are you looking to take a guy early, maybe a Leporta, a Kelsey McBride, Dalton Kincaid could break out this year, or you're trying to get some value later? And also, maybe a couple of tight ends you got your eye on this year. Well, I would say this, that your stance is and beliefs and philosophies, I guess, are constantly evolving, right?

Where I'm at today would be, there are two guys, I think, that I would consider taking with a relatively high pick, and then I'm sitting out and I'm waiting. And I'm waiting, and I'll take a tight end later. Like I took Jake Ferguson in the last round or the second to last round last year, whatever it was, and I'll wait again for some of these other tight ends because there are some guys later on that'll be good. That'll be just fine. And that'll emerge.

Now, Jake Ferguson came through, and that's what you're hoping to get out of one of your last picks. I got it. But I think there's a couple of guys up top that I'm comfortable using a relatively high pick on. But what I've learned more often than not, I know Kelsey has been a league winner in the past. So that has worked. That has worked. But I think generally speaking, tight end high usually does not work.

Adam, I've got the tight end. for you this year in your war room league i want to i want to mark the tape we're recording this in may we're going to we're going to go back to this video after the season i'm going to pat my back you ready you ready tyler conklin for your new york jets i think he could be aaron rogers is second you know number receiver to be uh you know no worst in the third option for erin rogers I know the Jets are really high on him. We don't know much because he's had bad quarterback play. What do you think about Tyler Conklin?

That's a perfect example of a guy that I'd rather wait on. Oh, yeah. Then go take somebody in round four, five, six, like where you're pushing to fill that slot without the right guy. Like to me, you know, Sam Laporte is a stud. Daltie Kincaid's going to be a stud. Yeah. You know.

I do love Ferguson this year. by the way. He's like not cheap. He's not expensive. He's, he's not bad. What's his ADP? About 100? Yeah. Let's take a look. Because when we break that down, when I really look at it, you know, I try to look at, okay, what are they doing? It's about 86. Tide in 9. You know, we know that they So by the way, so tight in 9, 86, you're going to have to take him in a spot where there's probably like some number two running backs, some middle tier quarterbacks, right? I could call that up. But I do think he could be impactful. I mean, D.

loves throwing at the middle of the field. CD is going to command a lot of attention. They lost some guys. Gallup, you know, I really do think Ferguson could be, this could be like a full-on breakout. Listen, he broke out last year. I'm a Jake Ferguson fan. I like him.

I have no problem taking him. The question is, what is the value and what is the opportunity cost where you're going to have to take him? That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Well, here's one. Jordan Love, by the way, real quick. Jordan Love is going two picks after Ferguson.

I do love Jordan Love. That's my point. That's my point. So, like, again, if you haven't addressed the quarterback yet and you stocked up at running back and receiver, you know, are you going quarterback back there or are you going to go tight end there? See, I'd rather, that's a perfect example. I'd rather, I'd rather wait on the tight end and just take, I'd rather just wait and take the tight end later. Gotcha. That's a lot of intriguing names going around.

on Ferguson, deck Prescott, Christian Watson. We're getting into Green Bay offense in a second. Najee Harris, Jordan Love, Tony Pollard. So a lot of guys are, well, let's go to Christian Watson. He's in this Green Bay offense. We saw Jordan Love explode onto the scene last year, a team that, you know, you could argue, you know, kind of blew it and maybe should have been playing in Las Vegas last year, but they've got all these young guys at him that kind of came out of

nowhere, the Dobbs. and you've got Watson and do you buy into this offense? Do you buy into the ascension of Jordan Love? Do you think he takes even that next step to become one of the great quarterbacks in the NFL right here? And if you've got to take some of these wide receivers in Green Bay, which one you got your eye on? Yeah, you know, that, and again, John,

there are guys that make plays and guys who don't. Jaden Reed, Jaden Reed makes place. He just makes plays. Now, Christian Watson makes plays, but he also battles a lot of injuries. And guys are healthy and guys weren't. And Christian Watson hasn't been. Now, I'd love to see him stay healthy.

It would be great to see the numbers he clip it up because he's outstanding and he's immensely gifted. But Jaden Reed, baller. Baller. Baller. Well, Christian Watson, we're going to do this at the end, rapid fire fashion. ADP, 86, Whitefee, 47, in or out.

Reed. He's 60. Wide receiver 34. Oh, yeah. I'll like him. But would you, let's say Reed goes, someone else gets them and you need a third receiver and Watson's on the board. Wide receiver 47 out of them. There's a lot of upside from there. A lot of upside. But there's downside at that spot because now we're passing on Jake Ferguson or Jordan Love or somebody to fill out that roster. And those are the choices that help make and break a fancy roster.

No doubt. There's a lot of upside left on this podcast. Stay tight. More with Adam Schifter after this. All right, Adam. Going through our kind of summer, it's the dead period now. There's not a lot of news, quote unquote, breaking. But there was a ton early in the offseason.

And one of the biggest stories was Russell Wilson, all the dead cap money that the Broncos took on. Nobody knows that team better than you as you worked closely with the Broncos for years. Now he's in Pittsburgh. John's got a guy who he loves more than consensus, and it's George Pickens. So I want to get your thoughts on Russ going to Pittsburgh. Now we got Artie Smith running the offense. Pickens may be elevating and becoming a force. What are your thoughts on, you know, the silver or the black and gold this year in Pittsburgh?

Let me start by saying that there are not many receivers that are any more talented than George Pickens. The guy is a total freak. I remember somebody's telling me at one point, yeah, he's his good receiver. There is in the league if you just get him to the stadium on time. And that's George Pickin. So that kind of guy always makes me a little crazy, number one. True. Number two, Arthur Smith.

I go back to calling around to Atlanta last year. Hey, I'm thinking about taking Bejohn. I'm thinking about taking Drake London. I'm thinking about this. I'm thinking about that. And one of the guys there sent me back to numbers of, like, touches in the offense and touchdowns in the offense, a number of players who touch the ball in the offense. And Arthur Smith, typically, I know he had Derek Henry, and Derek Henry, that's a different, a little bit of a different story. But, again, Arthur Smith does a great job of spreading around the ball, which is good for offenses, but not good for your fantasy teams.

So that's factor two that works against George Pickens. Number three, we don't even know who's going to play quarterback. right now. We think it's going to be Russell Wilson. He has, according to Mike Tomlin, the pole position, but we'll see how that plays out. Maybe Justin Fields is a quarterback at some point. Don't love the whole situation with that as it pertains to George Pickens becoming a high pick. Do I love George Pickens' talent? Absolutely. Do I love some of the other factors around him? Not particularly. Well, that, well, that, by the way, I'm going to guess, without even having looked.

George Pickens' ADP, I'm guessing 30. take a look. I think it's about 50. You talk about wide receiver 30? No, no. Oh, yeah, close. 46. Okay. So I was a little higher. Yeah. A little higher. Probably not taking them. That's me. Okay. Now, in some best balls, you want to throw a George picking zero there? Fine. Okay. But is he going to be on my fantasy teams? Oh, boy. Probably not. Probably not for the opportunity. I'm probably going to look elsewhere. Like, give me some of the players around him at 46, John. Okay, Isaiah Pacheco, Dalton Kincaid, Omari Cooper, Mahomes. I do like Mahomes this year to bounce back and have a better year. So James Cook, Keenan Allen, Mark Andrews, Rashad White. Yeah, I, you know, I like George Pickens.

I really, but I don't know that I'm going to take them over some of those guys. Okay. Well, Adam, I did have to ask you about the 49ers. Brian mentioned your familiarity with obviously the Broncos. you're tight with the Shanahan's. Now, when I was at the Senior Bowl, I absolutely fell in love with the wide receiver

Ricky Pearsall out of Florida. Then I set up an interview with him at the Combine. One of the best dudes ever, one of the best vibes I ever had. I really like them a lot. Shocked that the Niners took him. So what are your thoughts on that? Why are you shocked that the Niners took him?

Because I thought, I wasn't shocked, but I was surprised that they took him without moving on from Debo or Iyuk. So a little surprised, a little bit of redundancy there. I mean, look, we struggle with fantasy decisions with Iuke, Debo, and Kittle, and McCaffrey, with their only being one ball. So it's just a little watered down now. Well, here's what I would say.

Again, not as it pertains to fantasy, but Brandon, I, you currently, as we tape, this is headed into the last year of his contract. Now, they're trying to get an extension done. Joanne Jennings is headed into the last year's contract. Ebo Samuel is headed into the last year of guaranteed money in his contract. And so there are questions. There's some question with each of their top three wide receivers. So, you know, there's a scenario where two of those three receivers may not be there next year. And you don't want to just have to, you know, rely on the draft next year to replenish the roster.

You're going to pay Brock Purdy, so it's going to be hard to go pay a free, a wide receiver. receiver and free agency. So I think the pick of Ricky Pearsall, they also drafted a wide receiver in the fourth round. I think these are picks for the future, John. That's what they are. Like, they're picking these guys to groom them now, to have them ready. And I'm sure that if they are as good as they think that they can also contribute this year, but these are picks with an eye as much on the future as there is this season. Yeah, it was totally fair. But they are on the precipice there. So, you know, that is a little bit of a sticky situation. But do you like Ricky Pierce, all too? Have you heard good things? He's a little polarizing. Some people think he might

have to be only inside, but I don't see that. You know, it's funny. I, I, a guy tell me all about him going in the first round a couple of weeks for him. Like, Ricky Pierce, like, really? Like, I hadn't heard much. And like, yeah, I'm like, wow, okay. Like, again, I'm not living in that universe studying these guys until after a free agency. So there would have been a chance. I would not have known as much about Ricky Pearson as other people who live in this draft world all the time. But this guy was like, yeah, he could be a one. I'm like, wow, that's the first time I've heard that. And then sure enough, he was.

So we'll see. Was that surprised? Well, I know they were looking at wide receivers, didn't know which guy they would come around on, but that was obviously the guy that they felt very strongly about. Well, Adam, the time has already gone. So we'll try and cover a lot of content in rapid fire fashion. So we're going to play this little ADP game. I know you love the ADPs, and you are a discriminating purchaser, if you will.

Like you're, you're conservative to an extent. And hey, that's your route. Well, I'll start right at the top, Christian McCaffrey, 28 years old, pretty big workload. One is the ADP, RB1, player one, in or out on CMC at one. You know, the funny thing is, John, last year, he was my number one player. And he was not the number one player universally at all. Like, I remember my friend, my boss at ESPN, Seth Markman, who was the number one pick in the ESPN World League.

And he's like, who he could take it? I said, you could ask him, I said, Christian McCauphrey, really? I'm like, that's who I would take. He took Justin Jefferson. And so I was big, big on CMAC one last year, number one overall. All right. When I did best ball drafts, he was my number one guy. I don't feel, I don't feel that with him this year, one.

Listen, prolific player, unbelievable. It's funny, I sit there myself, who would I take if I had the number one pick right now in fantasy? Yeah. I think if I had the number one pick, I might take tomorrow chase. Okay. That's where I was last year. Okay. You're just kind of waiting for that big breakout year.

Oh, yeah. Right? Totally. And, and you know, I feel about T. Higgins, I'm a little nervous there, fantasy-wise, right? You know, I'm a little nervous there. Yeah, yeah. And so with that in mind, like, Jamar Chase becomes even more attractive. But, listen, CMAQ to me, you know, should be money in the bank.

So I don't have a problem with him. I just, last year I felt like one. And I, you know, resounding, unequivocal. And I don't know that I would just say that this year. The player at number two in ADP is C.D. Lamb. And we've heard all offseason how all in quote unquote the cowboys are. And yet they've really, they've done nothing. You know, they haven't even extended some of their players.

So if you've got CD Lamb, we saw the astronomical numbers he put up. There's almost no competition for touches with anyone else on this team, save for our guy Ferguson at tight end. I mean, if Mike McCarthy's maybe coaching for his job out there, Dax plan for a contract, CD's going to. get fed, right? Yeah, you would think he would. I, you know, I just worry about their season a little bit going sideways the way that they've attacked the offseason. Like, what if that does happen? What if it goes sideways? Like, and it might not. I mean, that might be really good again. But I think there's

also a question that they might not be. And if they're not, you know, we know what happens when those types of seasons happen. So I have a question there. I got no issues with using a high pick on CD, safe pick, good a great player, going to produce. But, you know, I don't, I don't rank my time. I'd be curious, like, to sit down and rank them, like, how I feel like, and also it's a feel as it goes along. Like, it's constantly, like, you know, you're talking to people, like,

you hear a couple things, you're like, ah, I'm going to move CD up a little bit, I'm going to move them down a notch or two. Just, you know what, to use John's phrase, vibes. There are certain vibes you get with guys, right? Yeah. And, uh, I'm, I've mixed vibes on the Cowboys. as a whole right now.

I have good vibes on my guy, Jonathan Taylor and the Colts. Jonathan Taylor, 15, uh, in or out there. And maybe would you, would you go Taylor or, uh,

Sequin Barkley in that spot if you're looking for a running back? Love them both. I, you know, by the way, like I, I, I have not been in on Sequin.

In other years, I'd be very much in on Seekone this year. Very much in. I love doing that. I'm the Eagles fan. Well, look, he's going to be running.

in an offense that I think is going to be improved behind a great offensive line. Has he ever done that before in the NFL? I don't know. Now, Kellamore, Kellamore good or bad for running backs, fancy running backs. I think he's pretty good. Just bought a house around the corner from me, by the way, here in South Jersey. I think he did a hell of a job two years ago getting Tony Pollard in space with the Cowboys.

Yeah, I'm in on Sequin. Okay. I don't like it. I like it. Let me hit you with one kind of aging guy. I was kind of out on him last year. He had usually out on aging guys. I'm usually out on aging guys.

He doesn't like the old guys or the really young guys. This guy's got a top 20. I like really young. I love really young guys. I don't like using my first round pick on a really young guy. So here's a guy out in the desert in Vegas, Devante Adams. I mean, quarterback situation a little up in the air. We're talking Minshu.

We're talking Aiden O'Connor. you're going to spend a second round pick on a guy who has arguably a Hall of Fame career. I'm out on him. I don't want to get into Devante Adams business this year. Love Devante as a player. Love him as a player. Unbelievable player. But I don't know.

We don't know he's playing quarterback for him. We just don't know. And do you think that the Raiders, I mean, they might be under Antonio Pierce. They might be like the way he has them playing. Are you confident that they're going to be alive and kicking at the end of the year? year to where they're going to be incentivized. And if they're not, now we've got an older guy and that situation. Like, eh.

Yeah, not a lot of hope there, you know, like, oh, we can turn to Aden O'Connell for the future. Like, eh, how about Cooper Cup, Adam, 35? I was out last year as soon as I saw any physical issue, I was like, no, that's it. Cooper Cup at 35 in or out. Love Cooper Cup as a player. Won't be taking him in fantasy. That's me. Yeah.

Love him as a player. Love. Freak. Unbelievable. And when he plays, I'm going to hate playing against him. I'm going to hate it. But he's just not going to be on my team. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

What's his ADP? 35. Well, that's, that, that is a little tempting, but it's just not my kind of pick. Well, he's going off the board after Kelsey. Kelsey at 38. I'm in. You're in on Kelsey? Yeah, I mean, there's a little bit of a drop off, but look at the production in the playoffs.

I think they're going to manage him a little bit. Adam this year. Have you seen his yards per catch average through the years? Yeah. Straight down. And let me see this. Last year, I took Kelsey in the first round in one of my leagues. Like, I had in a 12-team league, I had the 11th pick.

You remember he hurt his knee that first week. And in most drafts, his ADP was like top three. He was going top three. Heard his knee. And in this particular draft, he slid to me at 11. I'm like, oh, my God. I took him. And again, as a player,

Huge fan, huge respect. As a fantasy tight end last year, wasn't great. Wasn't great. And a year later, a year older. Wow. But fourth round, though. I mean, that's fourth round. Yeah, fourth round.

Like five overall. Yeah, no, fourth round is, again, doesn't meet my profile of my family. Like, I'm not taking 35-year-old guys. I'm just not doing it. That's true. I mean, I'm generally with you here. I'm not doing that. I hear you.

bouncing around, I'll give you a Dalton Kincaid at 50, young guy. Is he a rocket ship? Like him, like a younger guy. I like ascending players. Me too, yeah, for sure. For sure. That's it. Dolan Kincaid.

At 50s. Yeah. Ascending. And, like, ascending. Like, give me guys in their second, third years. Give me guys that haven't gotten the big contract yet. Give me those, give me the young, fresh legs. That's what I'm looking for.

Now, again, I'm not going to be closed off to where all of a sudden Travis Kelsey is sitting there at 43 and he, whoa, I wasn't expecting that. I'll take. I'm okay. Even Cooper Cup, I think about it, 40. Like, boy, that's not the guy I'm sitting out to draft. It's not the guy. But he's sitting there. He's a great.

You know what? I'll throw a dart at a veteran. But generally speaking, out. One more, Brian. Real quick. You're a Michigan man. Nico Collins with the Texans. It's got an ADP of 23.

They added Stefan Diggs. Tank Dell coming back. That seems a little rich for me. What do you feel? Love the player. Love the situation. Rich because of all the players, exactly as you're saying.

Like, 23. Like, who else is around there? Give me some of the wide receivers around there. Debo, Mike Evans, and then Diggs is a few after him. DJ Moore, Waddle. DJ Moore, Waddle, both interests me more than Nico Collins,

who I really like. Like, last year I'm watching Nico and I'm saying, man, I wish I had more Nico. Like, the guy's really. good and they love them and but with all the target like all the players they have like whoo whoo who like there's a lot of guys there now he figures to be the one so i mean what what do we think at the end of the year nico collins numbers are 80 catches for 1,200 yards and 11 touchdowns something like i can tell you what i have him for in a second here and by the way i think uh i love tank

Dell, but he's the one who I think is just a little pricey. I've got Nico. Actually, see, to your point, and all of our points about there being only one ball, I have got them down 70 grabs for 1,000 and six touchdowns, wide receiver 23, so I'm a little behind the ADP there. Yeah, okay, but by the way, our number is just me doing a thumb ahead. We were 10 catches apart. We were 100 yards apart.

We were five touchdown. My touchdowns were probably. bit generous but yeah um great player rich price to go get him and that that's the kind of thing like all of a sudden i'm drafting and i have the 31 i'm gonna feel a lot better about neco collis at 31 than i am 23 all right adam last one and we really mean it this time by the way by the way like i could talk guys all day long like all day long all right well i mean we i'm just going you got to go you want to keep going well i got to get on my son i got to get on with my life I can't talk about it.

I love it. Yes. I appreciate it, John. What's that? I don't think my wife would appreciate me doing this. We're waiting to have brunch of one of my rare free Sundays during the year, right? Adam, I literally. Well, hold on.

Honey, I know you want to go on good day. I got to talk more ADPs here. Hold on. No, no. I literally do not contact you thinking of your family. So that's why I don't bother you as much. But real quick, this is the most important one. ADP at 60.

a new regime in Atlanta Kyle Pitts In or out Turkey baby By the way I do like Bejohn this year I do like Bejohn this year I love Breece Hall too this year I think Breece Hall

Bejohn Robinson Jonathan Taylor Jamir Gibbs The elite Young Versatile Dorable Runningbacks I think they should go up the board and all be taken actually in the top like seven

Seek 1 2 Okay Seqwon to. You know, here's the thing on Kyle Pitts. I'm haunted by taking him in the second round two years ago. Like, I'm so scarred by that. Like, he literally sunk my season. Yeah. Right. So, you're getting a biased point of view. Like, am I going to take him? Probably not. But I will say, I do like him. I do like him in that offense. In that situation with that quarterback, I do like him. but for me to pull the trigger on that guy, that's going to take some Cajonis.

I'll just say that right now like that. But that's what fantasy championships are made of. It's getting past your scars, getting past your biases, making moves that need to be made to pull through to win the championship. Now, again, Kyle Pitts, that's going to, like I said, we're going to have to summon deep into the recesses of my abdomen to pull out the guts to make that pick. Well, Brian, we'll end it on this note.

My favorite story of all time, 20 years ago, Adam Schaefter was my Denver Broncos insider. There was a star player named Clinton Portis who had a late game. No one knew if he was playing. It was a late kickoff. This is back when a lot of leagues,

you had to have the whole lineup in by 1 o'clock Easter. Adam Schaefter at 3 in the morning, sends me an email. Portis is going. I send it off to subscribers. I got 50 replies back. Are you sure, dude? 170 plus yards and two touchdowns for Clinton Portis that day.

Well, you know, beyond that, I will say this. I was on Clinton Portis to everybody in fantasy. Like, I remember watching him as a rookie. You could look it up. There was a Denver Post article I did on about the third or fourth day training camp. And I remember literally getting a comment, just one sentence from each defensive player in camp. So I said, and I remember the story, basically, I'm paraphrasing, but I'm not far. I said, Clinton Portis has been the story of camp.

He has left defenders breathless. Here's what they say. And I just listed the comments. Like the first comment was, this guy's like, Frogger. You know, you can't catch him. Yeah. The second one was the guy's impot. It's like trying to catch smoke in midair.

Like, and it was just like literally 20 comments. And that was the story. And everything that was in there. was right. Everything because he was electric right away. I had a magazine. It was the first year. It was going into his second year. And the headline was five reasons why Clinton Portis is for real. And the guy just totally delivered and proved every point to be correct. He also transformed his body late in the DC years, became a grinder. Yeah. I, again, on the day-to-day basis, I think there are a lot of fantasy football players who are really smart. There aren't a lot of people who have a distinct edge there.

But every year, every year, John, I got a guy or two in my pocket. Yeah. I'm sitting on that I believe make a different. And guess what? I think I got a guy or two already.

I got one guy. I'm not going to share with you just yet. I got one guy who I'll be taking in my drafts. Adam will tell me this via text Labor Day weekend. That's right. honoring a time honored tradition. That's the Schepter bomb everybody's waiting for right there. Is that one?

Well, folks, make sure you're also not just following Adam on Twitter, X, whatever you call, because everybody already does that. But go over and check out the Adam Schaefter podcast. It's really well done. It's one that I personally listen to myself, Adam. I know you take a lot of pride in it. And it's a fun listen, and you can get a lot of nuggets from that as well. I appreciate you taking the time.

And you can actually go enjoy brunch with the family today. Yeah, well, we're already late, but that's the way it goes. there were ADPs to discuss and hopefully we flushed out some selections for people to make here in the coming weeks, which we love fantasy football drafts. We love fancy football. We love what you guys do. So thank you for having me on today. You're the man, Adam. Blame all the tardiness on me. It's all my fault. Enjoy the family. It usually is mine, John, so that'll be a nice welcome. All right, guys. More with the guru, John Hanson. After this, it's the Fantasy Points podcast. All right, John, what a great interview with Adam Schaefter. Just phenomenal stuff.

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and you can kick ass out there on the street and fantasy. And you're going to kick ass if you read John's draft plan article for best ball drafts. So we're going to give you the quick and dirty here. If you want the full thing, go over to fantasy points.com and, of course, read the article. Let's start at the quarterback position, John, where, you know, it's best ball. So, you know, you're going to want a guy who's going to put up big numbers, but you're probably not going to invest in maybe three of these guys. It's all, you know, how the roster construction comes out. How are you attacking this and are you spending an early pick on the Josh Allen,

Jalen Hertz's of the world, or would you rather, you know, kind of dig a little deeper with the Kirkies and the Jordan loves and the Brock Purdy's? Well, first of all, this changes every year. It's we do a little bit of tweaking, the landscape, you know, we got to adjust a little bit. Last year, I was not in on the QBs at the top, even though in previous years, I was actually giving them more love because I think, you know, five years ago.

everyone was just defaulting to hold off on quarterback. But I noticed that a lot of sharps, I think, were, were plucking like a Josh Allen in the fourth or third, you know, last couple of years. Last year, that was not what I was into. Unfortunately, that was the play because, you know, it was such a horrible year for those mid-range guys that I'm normally targeting, like Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert and Mahomes, maybe even Fields.

but again, it's also the individual players. And I do have some questions about Josh Allen now, obviously just lost Steph Diggs and Gabe Davis. I'm not just sure about Joe Brady. Then Jalen Hertz is more. It's basically injury related. He did not get hurt as badly to end this past season. But, you know, I do worry about that, you know.

Not that I'm worried that he got paid, but he did get paid. So I think this year, again, I'm always looking for value. That's, that's kind of where I start. So I do have a couple of guys, though, that are a little high up on the board. Like, I will pass on the top two quarterbacks. But if I was stuck in round four and nothing just stood out to me, I like Mahomes. We'll see what happens with Rishi Rice.

Anthony Richardson is also a viable pick at 55. I like that, the ascending players. We talked with Schefter, but I can't help myself to, but to target, you know, maybe the best of both worlds. A player I think is a stud,

but is still getting drafted, like outside of the top four or five rounds. So I'm into that. And Jordan Love would have to be my guy there. I also do like Trevor Lawrence. I know I liked him last year too and didn't work out, but I'm going back to the well. was not a Lawrence person the year before or coming out,

but they have enough there, I think, for them to bounce back a little bit. And I also like J.J. McCarthy as a late QB3 pick and Daniel Jones for what it's worth. But I've got it ranked here. Jordan Love as my top pick. Second was Richardson with the 5580P. Then I come in with Mahomes, Lawrence, and then for what it's worth, late J.J. McCarthy. But I think I'm all in on Jordan Love, basically. Now, when you're drafting a quarterback, how much attention are you paying to stacking these guys with their receivers,

rid the tight end? Because for the most part, you're going to have to take the wide receiver one before the quarterback. Is that in your brain when you're in these draft rooms at underdog of, all right, well, who am I going to take here? Because down the line, I want to target this quarterback. Well, it's not really, but I'm wrong. I mean, it should be. If I really want to, you know, take down a tournament or actually, you know, truly move the needle, I do think the stacking is the way to go. It's not dissimilar to DFS.

You know, when I started playing DFS, my brain doesn't necessarily think that way in terms of just putting all the eggs in one basket. I'm actually in life in general. I try to diversify a little bit, so I'm not like that. but it is kind of a little bit of an all or nothing situation, much like DFS with the stacking, don't you think? Yeah, you know, and now everybody is trying to correlate the week 17 games because, you know,

that's in these big tournaments, the puppy and whatnot on underdog when you can win all the cash. But you got to get there at some point, too. I'm not, I'm not into that stuff. I'm just into the actual analysis on the players and certainly with an eye toward the cost there. And that's a factor.

Yeah. So I do like Jordan Love. The problem with Jordan Love, though, if you do want to stack, you know, they do have too many guys. But honestly, I can backtrack a moment because I do like Christian Watson a lot. I mean, not that I'm thinking about stacking, but I think that would be my stack because that could be a move that wins you like four weeks, that alone, you know, with Watson. Yeah. I like Anthony Richardson a lot. And you can affordably put him with Pittman and then, you know, whoever.

else you want to bring in from from the colts who could possibly emerge there. Pitman or bust, I think, probably. Yeah. Let's move on to the running back plan. Again, folks, if you want to read the full article and it's very detail that breaks down, geez, right, 60, 70 players, go over to fantasy points.com and read John's work. So the running back plan, this is underdogs. This is half PPR.

And, you know, it's wide receiver drunk in these drafts. Let's be honest. everybody's hammering receiver as much as they possibly can. So I think a lot of these running backs start to fall down the board here. Who are some guys you're looking to target? And is it, you know, I'm reading the article. It's a lot of what Schefter was talking about, young ascending talent. Well, you know me.

That's kind of been my deal from the beginning. My first draft pick, by the way, of all time was Walter Payton, which I know it makes me sound old, but I was, I think, 19 years old. It was a bad pick. It was based on brand name recognition. He did have, I looked, 360 touches the year before, but he was also like 33. And he kind of fell off a clip. So I did an immediate overcorrection and never really drafted an old guy again in the first round or two, honestly.

I mean, we're talking almost like 35 years ago. That said, I do think you can get maybe a. small edge if you zig where other zag a little bit and go a little bit running back centric um in round one and i say that as a guy who a has always been old school running back running back but b last year was more into the wide receivers than ever i was like the zero r b guy almost although can i go one point zero r b because i like that anchor running back i just see an opportunity with bejean brace hall jimier gibbs and jonathan taylor a little older with taylor but the foursome here,

I know we haven't been completely impervious to injuries here, Brice Hall, for example, but, man, I mean, you are hard pressed to find a better group of, like, just totally young,

durable, generally, really versatile, you know, and I think they really stand out among their peers. There will be other running backs of crush. Who knows, though?

I mean, it's almost impossible. Like, no one was saying, maybe Adam Schaefter, but no one was saying, oh, Kairn Williams this time last year. So we don't know what's going to happen,

but we do know I do at least that these four runoffbacks are really, really appealing. So I'm actually to the point where I've kind of figured it out where I'm about 80% taking a running back with my first pick in my best ball draft. That's just me. I just see a little bit of an advantage. And I do think you can make up for it.

If you go running back in round one, but I still think you can get an excellent receiving core. Yeah, no doubt. What have you named these guys? It's like the Fantastic Four or something like that. Yeah, yeah, no. This one I went to the, oh, man, flawless four. We'll have to work on a graphic for that,

like some kind of superhero thing with Bejohn-Breeze. By any stretch, I call it, flawless. Like, I mean, come on. I mean, we're not pushing the envelope there attempting Fade at all. Let me ask you about a guy or two you can get a little later, but could have big-time roles. Zemir White. So he's in Vegas and now he's presumably the starter.

And we see this every year around the NFL where there's kind of these, as you call them, Jags, who in all offseason, we go, that's the guy. He is the presumed starter. He's going to get all the carries. And then we like go nuts on. And then all of a sudden, though, we're like, wait a minute. This guy could easily lose this job. He's not that talented. And then somebody else comes in and takes it.

There's a few spots like that. last year yes guys that you're looking at you're like there's nothing special with him by the way i did not like and i did call a jag and i'm very proud of myself or not that's very tempting with that volume that he was looking at but like nah he's he's a jag so what's the vibes on white again we when we talk to shifter he's out you know on on devonte but they got nothing this team has no talent it's it's devonte adams amir white and 58 tight ends yeah no i i think it looks pretty good here um You know, Antonio Pierce is going to lean on him for sure. He had 20 more carries in his final three games.

He had the 18th best explosive run rate among 68 running backs with at least 50 carries. He was also 16th out of 68 in yards after contact and 30th out of 68 in yards before contact per attempt. He also had pretty competent receiving chops there, caught 15. of 19 targets. So that's pretty good because he he's got a little bit more talent, I think, than Alexander Madison. Zamir White can rip off these longer runs. And while Madison didn't have much behind him in the backfield, ironically, he's the competition for Zemir White. And I'm not that worried about him, honestly. So I think, and then by the way, you normally do need two, three running backs to get through a season. And I do like Dylan Lobby.

as a low-end prospect here, but otherwise they're really thin here. So I think Zemir White, if he plays 15 or more games, lock it in, 275 plus touches. Well, here's a guy in Carolina. We're going to talk about a couple of rookies here who he's going to get steamed up as we get through camp and people really start diving into the team. And it's Jonathan Brooks coming off a severe injury. Everybody in the world thought the Cowboys were going to draft this kid. But he goes to Carolina.

I mean, you're looking at the corpse of Miles Sanders out here. And it's just, you know, there's no way Chuba Hubbard is going to hold this job all year long. At some point, Jonathan Brooks becomes the guy in Carolina and could give you some really league winning weeks down the stretch. And, you know, you note him in the article here. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've always liked, I mean, unlike Mr. Schefter, who is a little, you know, he plays it safe with these first year players. I actually, I understand his point because I've. been incorrect but on these rookie running backs at times but i also say like i actually think one of

your best buying opportunities is when you draft a rookie for example jemere gibbs last year his a dp was what like 35 and now it's 12 now we did have that run there early in the year when he was rb 38 through the first six weeks and people were hating it but you know it the cream did rise to the top i think we'll see something similar with jonathan brooks so i i am willing to to take no doubt about it if he slips a little bit but it's not a tragedy if i don't though because i could see myself warming up to him big time a month into the season as a trade four guy i mean i think he's going to be a second half of the season guy so i'm not saying he's a must have i will take him but ideally i think he's a guy just keeping the back of your mind because you know if he gets off to a

slow start you know someone might be willing to part with him but i think by the time you're we get to November, I think he should be ready to take off, honestly, because that's boring showing by Miles Sanders, who by the way, you know, we spend plenty of time in the off season breaking all this stuff down. We're discrediting Miles Sanders right now and rightfully so. But you know what happens. He's going to get motivated and pissed and he'll probably show up and have a great camp and confuse the situation. Or he gets traded to the Cowboys and then runs for, you know, a thousand yards of something behind that line. on that later on in the draft stinks though by the way at the end of the day uh you know it was a time i thought he was good and he is kind of good but when you can't do it consistently and you're not a good receiver and you're not great in short yardage you kind of stink don't you think i have a dynasty league that i'm in and we just did our rookie draft this week and i was just kind of flipping through all the players you know it's the fifth round of this rookie draft so it's all scrubs at this point so i just start looking at the free agents mile sanders was a free agent in this

league. I'm like, wow, that's pretty incredible. And then I talked to my partner about it. He goes, I'm still not. I'm still not taking Miles Sanders. I know, because he could be literally worthless. Yeah. Yeah. He'll probably be best ball. Because it's, it'll be annoying. To win some of these leagues, you got to hit on a guy late, you know, the Ken Dre Miller's, Blake Corms of the world, you know, some of these guys, if you want to read the article, you know, John lists, a bunch of guys that you can take this kind of home run swings at late in the draft. And if they hit, you know, you know, you're going to be counting some money. How about the wide receivers? We mentioned everybody goes wide receiver crazy in these drafts, right? Again, half point PPR in the puppy. So I don't know. To me, it seems kind of like you still do want to get a running back, especially a running back that caught passes.

But everybody loves going receiver here. So what's the overview on the wide receiver plan for underdog best ball? Again, fantasy PTS is the code you want to use over there. because boy oh boy there's a lot of them to choose from my friend yeah no doubt now if i do like i said and get one of my flawless for um 80% chance that i'm going to do that because i'm willing to take them over their 80p and i say 80% because you know it's possible if i'm picking it eight i get sniped but if i'm picking it eight and jemere gives is the best back i'll probably take them so that's why i say it's probably 80% that's

I'm going to get a running back. But that said, I think then I'm probably hitting wide receiver with my next two picks. Not going to force it. But I'm going to be targeting, you know, Marvin Harrison, Drake London, obviously Iyuk and Alave. Then we're going to go down a tier in round three and target DJ Moore and Michael Pitman, skinny Batman, Devante Smith. I can't quit. I'm big on George Pickens this year. year. So I'm going to probably emerge if I open with a running back through three rounds with two

wide outs and that running back. So now, now I can, you know, let the draft come to me a little bit. Maybe I take a tight end. Maybe I take Anthony Richardson. But we have some targets here for our wide receiver three or four like Christian Kirk, who is, I think, the most steady, reliable receiver there for Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence. I like Godwin a lot, Chris Godwin this year. in the Cooper Cup roll, I would say he's really intriguing at his ADP around 77. And then when I'm still maybe looking for a good fourth, usually one upside its best ball. I like Watson at 87. I'll take a shot on Jamison Williams. And then normally when I'm into the 100 plus picks in, I would think I've got three, four, five receivers, of course.

So now I'm just looking for quality depth. That's always a mixture of sneaky veteran type. you know younger players guys coming off bad years uh i do like calil shakir i think john dotson is actually viable because hey first round talent pedigree they're very thin a receiver going to break in ben sinat as a a rookie tight end i don't know about that um josh palmer's boring and i do like lad mcconkey but i mean his adeps around 70 i think i'm going palmer at 125 over Ladd at 70. And then, of course, there's plenty of good upside picks to get, look at it, 150 plus in.

Michael Wilson, who Schefter talked about on this pod, Marvin Mims, great opportunity there in Denver. I know I oversawed Darnell Mooney the last two years. I don't care. I still think he's very good. I think the quarterback players really heard him. Perfect situation there with Kirkie. And then I also like Jermaine Burr.

And so you know you do want you want to be too thin you want to have that foundation there to hang your hat on at receiver with at least two like really really good ones But I feel a little less pressure to go all in at wide receiver this year depth is better than ever the quality at the top is less than ever in terms of the true elites and I think depth wise you you can I don't say four go but you can all only get like two wide outs with your first four picks, let's say, and still be really good. So I think flexibility is always key, but wide receiver is very important, not as important as last year, though, to me. Well, how important is tight end going to be? Because as we've mentioned a few times, we've never seen more tight ends score double digit points in a PPR. It seems deeper than ever. You've got some guys emerging, ready to break out like Dalton Kincaid, maybe

Kyle Pitts finally puts it all together. So there's a long list of tight ends here. Do you need to spend an early pick on tight end? Or can we let that depth be our friend and kind of maybe pick off a few of these guys in the middle of the late rounds and then kind of cob it together and, you know, it's best ball. Whoever pops that week is going to give us the points. Yeah. Flexibility, I think, is key.

If I'm stuck in like late round four, early round five, not seeing. any needle movers at running back or wide receiver for example i i probably take tray mcbride i'm very high on him so i like that as a you know stud that doesn't command like true elite pricing then i would go to the second tier guys kincade kyle pits i'm still in willing to take them uh and then the the last tier by the way because after this tier the talent i believe falls off a clip So I want to get at least one of like my top nine within the top 90 that would be Evan Ingram. I did like him last year. I had him on the list and then also had him on the list and I liked them was Jake Ferguson.

So that's like probably my favorite value pick that I'll draft as a starter, Jake Ferguson at 89. Then then I am someone I like to take obviously two and best ball, but I'll take three if need be if I'm a little suspect like maybe one of them c j hawkinson uh luke musgrave i mean i don't think he's just slam dunk because they're going to spread the ball around but i do i do think he's kind of a stud you know like he's like maybe a lowercase stud and we haven't seen the best from him uh but my guy's tyler conklin i mean i challenge you or anyone to find anyone higher on conklin than i am right now uh... a dp of one eighty two i i love how the jets pass on Brock Bowers. I really truly believe that Aaron Rogers is going to love

Tyler Conklin, who's really good after the catch. She could run. The analytics people there really like him. They are thin with past targets. Mike Williams will probably get hurt again. I think Tyler Conklin has an outside chance to emerge as Aaron Rogers' number two option in the passing game, not counting. So folks, there you have it. Kind of the quick overview, the Cliff Notes version of the Guru's best ball draft plan. Again, the full. article available at fantasy points.com. And if you're thinking about getting in that best ball game, download the underdog fantasy app.

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We're just getting started here with the Fantasy Points podcast, my friend. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. looking forward to it we're going to get into a nice groove here with the guests and all that and yeah i like kind of forming a little library too of all the old interviews on our feed that's kind of cool so we will be adding to that we will have some really interesting guests i think um i've been fortunate enough to meet some you know i want to get uh the crime dog my guy fred mcgriff we'll get him on i'm thinking during the uh melb all-star weekend we'll get the hall of fame or on i'll get the hall of fame or i'll get the hall of on Freddie, who finally made HOF status last year.

That's very cool. I was just in Cooperstown, actually. My son and I, we went to the Hall of Fame. I live in upstate New York, so took him down there, and we saw. He's actually where the plaque was going to be because they put it on the wall, and then I think the players come and they autograph it behind where the plaque would go. So it's pretty fun. I've actually never been there, if you can believe that.

And I was a big baseball fan growing up, and somehow I've never gone there. But I'll get there. Go to the middle of nowhere and take it. Take a left. There's Cooperstown, New York. Gotcha. Not a lot happening there, but beautiful, beautiful scenery. Well, folks, for John the Guru Hansen, I'm Brian Drake. Thanks for checking us out on the Fantasy Points podcast. See you next time, guys.