Fantasy Football Daily - Fantasy Points Podcast | Former ESPN NFL Insider Adam Caplan

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

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When you're flying Emirates business class, enjoying a good night's rest in your lie flat seat, you'll see that your vacation isn't really over until your flight is over. Fly Emirates, fly better. Hey, what's up? It's John Hansen. The preseason is in the rear view. It is go time. We are less than a week away from the kickoff of the 2024 NFL campaign.

and for this week's podcast, we bring out the heavy hitter, Mr. Adam, Kaplan, Mr. C, NFL insider, extraordinaire. Empties. His insider notebook has been traveling around, but wondering all month where the F he is. He's been at various training camps, and he's got a lot of nuggets in store for you. So sit back and get ready to get some information, league winning information. It's me and Brian Drake. and Adam Kaplan in this week's Fantasy Points Podcast.

Thanks for liking, subscribing, and you're welcome. All across the Fantasy Universe, welcome to the Fantasy Points podcast. Brian Drake here alongside the guru, John Hansen. We have a special one for you tonight on the Fantasy Points podcast. John, I'm 44 years old, but I don't feel weird saying I've grown up listening to you and our guest here, Mr. C, give out information. especially that great Friday show. So it's a great pleasure of mine to be able to sit here with you guys and go division by division through Adam's insider notebook.

This is going to be a hell of a show. I mean, you guys have been doing this forever. This is a staple in the community, my friend. Yeah, yeah. And this is the first time that Adam and I have done something, you know, where we're chopping it up about the upcoming campaign all month. I can't believe it's where at the end of the month here. So it will be very interesting because quite frankly, Adam and I have not.

conversed nearly as much as we always used to, of course, doing the show a couple of days a week. So let's compare the notes and see where my positions line up with Mr. NFL Insider and we'll welcome him in now without any further ado. Mr. C. Good evening, sir. How are you? I'm good. No, I, that's the kind of, it's the first time in like 23 years we haven't conversed during the preseason. So there would be a couple things you go, well, that's not what I was thinking, you would say. I did not know that. Yeah, well, when we start with the bills, Brian Drake, we're going to, I'm going to have,

there's a player that I'm, you know, I've got a man crush on. It won't be hard to figure that out. But it's probably not the reason why people are thinking. It's just, you know, the information I gather and keep it in my right pocket. So we'll put it out tonight. It's literally one of three players. We'll get to it. Yeah, right, exactly.

Who else could be? Right, right, right. I live here upstate New York, so I know a lot of Bill's fans and I've got big home drafts this weekend. And I know folks are, they're reeling on Dalton Kincaid. There's a lot of questions about these wide receivers and how good can this team be. The defense, maybe they took a step back. Milano was injured again. So what did you find out when you visited Orchard Park? Well, no, I didn't have to visit. It's just the information.

You know, I don't visit every team. It's just I gather information from my sources from 32 teams. So let me just let me, I don't want to shoot stuff down too much tonight, but there's this narrative of that because Joe Brady decided to rein things in last season, which he did a good job. I give this guy credit. He did a great job. Their offense was struggling a little bit. Passing game wasn't great. So sometimes you have to rein things in. It's up Brady did a great job. That's why, by the way, he's still the O.C. But let me just have people understand something. They do not want to be a running team. No matter what people are saying in Buffalo, they're not going to start hiding their quarterback who's

got maybe the NFL's best arm. They're not built that way, really. I know. I don't know where this started. I know that comparatively per game, average per carry per game went up when Brady took over. I get that. I'm not saying they won't do it. There'll be a, you feel okay, there'll be a little bit of a commitment to the run.

Yes. Yes, that's exactly what I was going to say. Listen, comparatively to Brian Dable, no. This is not. Joe Brady, and again, I'm going to give the guy credit, but as I reported at the time, two years or whenever the hell he got fired by the Panthers in season, he had trouble getting guys open.

That was what I was told then. So I have this in my memory, and I'm not saying they had great talent around for Joe Brady with Panthers, but he didn't do a good enough job. And I give him credit, he learned a lot in two years after that. So that's a cool story. But my guy this year, my Don Tavian Wick for the A, FAC is Khalil Shakir.

That's my guy. Hey, hey, that's my guy, baby. I've been all in, baby, all year. I told John two years ago that nobody knows this, but they're going to cross-training. Most teams thought, most teams thought he could only play inside. Nope. He can play inside or outside. Curtis Seymour has inside outside capability.

I've been calling him their top outside receiver all year. Now, again, they have five. MVS, we know, is a four at best. Matt Collins can run. He's a four at best. Curtis Samuel is his specialty type receiver. Oh, yeah. You know, he, he runs his, he gets actually open downfield.

That's the weird thing about him, but he's better inside. Oh, yeah. I mean, look at the year per catch average. I know. The data is pretty good with him on the outside of the limit. Yeah, it's kind of weird. He's just a damn rock solid football player fundamentally sound, doesn't make mistakes, reliable.

He's been that way from the. job literally his first preseason. Are you talking about Shakir or Samuel? Here, Shakir. Okay, so let me get to Shakir. I was Samuel. Let me get to Shakir. So Shakir is this guy who just does everything.

He's asked. Yep. I know he's not a speedster, but you don't need to totally scheme him open. He can get open on its own. I keep saying he's what Skymore should be. You just took, it's so, Brian, you know this. John and I speak the same language. We see the game very closely the same, though obviously we talk to

different people. That's exactly what I was going to get to. I'm looking at my notes here. That's Skymore, as I told John, he should have played inside. That was the intel that I got after their last season that that's hoping that they were hoping to kind of change them up a little bit. That's the chiefs. We'll get to them later. But Shakir is my Wic, John Tavin Wicks for the AFC. I'm telling you, I'm not saying he's going to get 80 receptions, but depending on what the ADP is, you know, I'm looking for that right now at fantasy points. And we'll discuss that. It's on the rise. I've been, if you've been monitoring on the site, my own ranking, I've been way out in front on, Shakir.

Currently, I'm Wivis Super 45 at ADP is 53, but let's take a look at overall because I'm probably way out and front of that. What round he's going in, right? And yeah. For ADP is like 139. Right. Oh, and that is unbelievable. And I hope, I hope, John and I have this weird thing where the fantasy industry for, you know, obviously, a couple decades.

Every once in a while, people would blame us for blown players up on ADP. I don't know if that's true, but people would tell us. Yeah, we moved the needle a few times. Yeah, right,

right. This is a guy, and of course I'm doing drafts and people are going to hear this. So whatever, we're here to give people. Well, everything's so diluted now and fragmented.

It's not, this message is not, this message is getting to a very small percentage of the fantasy football community. So everyone out there watching, draft freaking Khalil Shakir. And by the way, his ADP in 16 teams in 16 rounds is like 12 to 13th run. I'm taking them as early as the 10th and I'm not worrying about it.

Remember last year I won a couple of bets. I came on here confident in the data for Shakir for props. Crushed it. Easy crushed it. He's good. He just does a lot of things well. It's just not a speedster. I don't care about that.

Right. I like players who are coachable, runs good routes. I don't know if he's got a chip on his shoulder, but I've talked to people who work with him. He's just a good kid who's going to be valuable. The cool thing is here without digs, they don't have anyone other than Concade who commands the football. It's a coaching term where when coaches put together game plan,

okay, Kincade, we got to get him in ball. He commands it. After that, nobody does. So what about Keown Coleman? Where's he at here? Obviously, he's a little. He's not a separator. you got to scheme him open. Yes, he's got a big body.

I don't think he's as slow, by the way, this is 40-time. I think it's a little bit harsh. Right. But if I can only have one guy at receiver, the only one guy I want is Shakir. Do you have anything on my other guy there, Ray Davis? Yeah, I mean, look, Ty Johnson's a change-up, special teamer. Cook is not the biggest guy in the world. And what I like about Ray Davis is for a guy is only 5-8 and a quarter.

He's really compact and he could be physical. Downhill, baby? Yep. I know he's an older player because he played for three schools. Yeah. But, you know, he's 24, turns 25 in November. But this kid will get on the field this season. There's no question about it.

And James Cook can't handle a lot of volume. Yeah. Ray Davis also one of the greatest dudes of all time. Yeah, we enjoyed talking to him on a series of time. Straight up awesome guy. Now, look, as Brian talked about, their defense, they lose, one of the best coverage linebackers in the NFL with Milano. You know, that could really hurt them either.

their secondary is you have to struggle a cornerback good let their defense suck i don't get a right because they may have to throw the ball a little bit more than they want so but again before you move on i just want people thinking like they're going to throw the ball 32 times a game what what planet are you on it's not happening right let's move on let's let's go to um let's go to the jets because i i spent a lot of time uh with people there and just talking and gather information i would say this with them and rogers looks great by the way he looks phenomenal I just wrote in the Good Vibs article. You know what?

Closing an app to preseason with a good vibe on Rodgers. Knock on wood. I got one, knock on one, because we don't want anyone to get fired. Because we don't want to give him bad luck. But this is, there's a running joke around the Jets that all of their returning backup started last year because of injury. So they feel like they've got good depth with a Carter Warren, Max Mitchell, West Schweitzer has been a star in the lead for Washington.

Right. Tyron Smith, knock of wood, he's holding up. This is the best line they put together. and years give Joe Douglas credit to GM. He finally got it right. Mike Williams, what I'm told is this. He will definitely play early on. He's getting team reps now. That doesn't mean he's playing a ton of snaps.

They're playing this not to play him a lot. It's going to be a strictly medical decision on how much. So their medical staff, consulting with the training staff, with the coaches. They'll decide early on how many snaps he gets. But this is an underrated story to help Rogers out. Alan Lazard, I'm not saying he's the player he once was. He's alive. he's got he's mentally back from whatever funk he was in also wrote that today in the article it's unbelievable

so around the club like it he's kind of been reborn he's not a separator folks he fits johns john wants separators he's not yeah he's john's a separatist so lazar is not getting separation but he can go after the football but between wilts garret wilson who by the way was their ex receiver this year he's their z Williams is their ex when he's healthy lizarb will play probably more earlier on that he has to, Gibson's their third. Corley didn't have a great OTAs, but he's gotten better. For Dianste, folks, he's got some value for futures. Not this year at all.

He's not draftable. But look, we'll see about Michael. Minimal upside, but he could be a high catch guy. Not this year. It certainly won't happen. Right, down the road, because Mike Williams is on a one-year deal. And then Tyler Conklin, just be a little careful. I've been on Conklin for three years and it's never happened.

And John and I have been high on him this year. But just to understand, it's Wilson's their one. There's a distant number two of Mike Williams when his knees right, when they feel like he gets. His knee is good, by the way, he's looked good in practice, I'm told. But in terms of what is it going to be what he was before he got hurt in week three last year when he tore his ACL in Minnesota? Can't answer that.

They don't know. But Conklin will probably more involve John early on. Yeah. But Williams later on and then I think we've got to be realistic. Conklin may not be. every week started. Let's just be careful of it. Well, you know, a lot of that is touchdown dependent, and I am kind of banking on the Rogers Conklin mojo, and for that to kind of manifest in the end zone. I mean, it's not that big of an ask.

Yeah, and I think with Conklin, though, the big thing that the data on that the Jets had was that the run after the catch, the data matched the tape, the analytics on him when they signed him away from Minnesota, which is why they gave him a good contract. Yeah, you've seen him in the open field lately because of the quarterback. Yes, he could really run and he could block. He could do everything. He was a drafting guy. I swear to God, he was a pretty good athlete.

It's pretty good athlete. And then one thing before we move on, Braille and Allen, I know from the scouting community, because I talked to like a bunch of area scouts, they all have to share the same information. Braylon Allen was way too finesse. He didn't use his size well, which is why he dropped to the fourth round coming out of Wisconsin. But that has not been a problem in training camp. Jets are super happy for him. he's the unquestioned two his path protection's improved

now as much as I'm a breeze hall stand as John knows from day one the only thing is be careful they're not getting the checkdown said he got last year because they actually have a competent quarterback right so just be careful thinking he's getting like 120 targets could get 15 rushing touchdowns on the ground yes that he could have yes but I'm just saying for ppr leagues he's not getting the receptions that he got last year per game that's not happening what other running back is touching a ball in the money era no one oh johnny taylor no no on the jets oh oh oh yeah they're not taking briefs hold up but not a single soul on that

i don't see that i know brayne braylon allen's a big dude but no um i just wanted to shoot down because it is true from a from a college tape standpoint it is definitely true that allan's tape show that he was hitting his size well not a problem in more. Well, so far, we're all on the same page. It's like we've been working together every day. Well, good. I'm confirming stuff. And I could tell you, Shakira's, uh, what do you, before we move on to the next division, what do you, what are you projecting statwise for him, Shakira? You know, I'm keeping it, uh, I think pretty realistic. By the way, let me find them in my overall show. I would have gone 60 receptions. You have what, 53?

All right here, here, this is an example of being ahead of the freaking markets. His ADP right now, 142. I got them at 109. I mean, that's, that's when you print out your cheat sheet and you see a bunch of dudes below them crossed off. You're like, oh, look at this guy, lonely up there, all uncrossed off. Kavil Shakir, boom.

That's the secret there. Projection wise, let's take a look. I think you got 53. It's really, because, you know, he's been good for touchdowns. It's really conservative, actually, I think. 60 catches, 7.85, and, five touchdowns. I mean, they're going to be, I know they won't play as much 11 personnel as the former

OCs, but it's not like they're going to hide Shakir. He's just been a great story for them, that this is the, the cool thing that the coaching staff in front office see him the same way. He needs to be on the field. I mean, he may catch 70. Well, I got him for 60. Yeah, I got him for 60. I mean, but here's the thing, too.

Like, I kind of wanted to bump him up. I mean, I can't go that crazy. Otherwise, like, you, there's. a fine line when I do rankings between like here's what I think and what I project but also like I don't want to draft them two rounds earlier than I need to basically sure yeah based on ADP nobody seems to want him early yeah I want to price them above the ADP clearly but yeah so let's move to AFC North and go to the Ravens just what's is interesting is you're just hearing you know around the team that when they put, when they go to 12 personnel with Andrews and likely, Flowers, Henry and obviously in the backfield, and Bateman, not that he runs well, but he's not bad, he's actually healthy. To see their defense, their own defense react to what they have on the field, it's kind of hard for them to know how to stop with Lamar's running.

And they're getting the right reaction from the defense they're expecting. So I may want to be higher in Henry than I really want to be. I am. Me too. I'm not, you know, he lost, he definitely has lost a step. That's what the tape show. That's what the Titans thought. Yeah.

But I'm just, I got three drafts coming up and I got to reevaluate what I, what I, uh, what I I've been in on Henry for months, believe it or not. I mean, it's crazy, but let me see where you got him before we move on here. I mean, I don't have him that higher. You got him RB9, 19 overall. His ADP's 20. So you're a hair above ADP. Well, PPR, Brian.

He's got him. I'm looking right now. Well, I'm just saying for the site. He's 10th at running back 24th. So he's going, 80P is 24. Late second round, would I take him at the... I don't even think he's going to make it there. Really?

You think the hype will be too big? No, I think he's going to go early. I think he's going to end up... Well, okay. Let me run this to both you guys. Who's getting the goal on carries? I mean, between Lamar and Derek... Derek Henry.

You would think, right? He almost played a season without scoring on the ground, I believe, you know, dating back to like 20, 22, I think. And in a 20-20-year-old, he's a long-in-old. Jalen Hertz and Josh Allen, he's not, I don't think to that level around the goal line. And also, maybe they'll try to be a little smart with him. He had the knee issue about a year or two ago. I'm just thinking, we've got Derek Henry. Let's use the guy for whatever he's got left.

Exactly. Yeah, I'm just, yeah, and you would think so. but I'm just amazed at the reaction that their defense, like they, because Lamar on the RPO, you know, he, if he fakes it to Henry,

there, of course, they're going to crash. The defense is going to crash. Right. And it opens up because likely, you know, they're going to be heavy 12 personnel and they'll do some, we'll do some 13,

but they're going to be heavy 12. Yeah. They'll play more 12 than most teams. Totally. Totally. I'm trying to figure out, guys, is likely draftable. You know,

I've been ahead of this too. He, I believe he's on my target list. I've made it a point to make sure, and I've mentioned it and stuff I'm writing on the site. Like, he's too damn good to hold back anymore. Well,

okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this for you. I would put him above, you have way above Chigou Canco. We'll get to Tennessee in a couple of minutes. I'd put likely above Theo Johnson, who you over.

Oh, I get likely at 20. I mean, Well, I'm looking at PPR. The rankings right now on the site have likely at 25 at tight end. Well, there you go. See, this is you want the guru rankings, man. And that's on another part of their website here.

I'm still doing what I'm normally doing. Oh, I see. Come on. I see. So, yeah, I got like that. So, yeah, I got like that 20, which is, by the way, is 80p. But the ADP is creeping up on me. me.

Like, not that I, you know, but you bring up a great question. Is he draftable? And I have said yes. I like drafting two tight ends, especially in deep leagues. No, but yes, but John, he's a backup NFL tight ends. That's my point. Who drafts a backup NFL tied end? This might be the guy.

Oh, yeah, totally. That's my point. That's why I brought it up. I was kind of blown away with some of the things I've heard. Absolutely. Reaction of the defense. And that's what I'm hoping when they play Kansas City. We'll see what my old friend Steve Bagnolos got for him.

What a chess match that will be week one. We'll talk about some other time. Yep, yep. So I just want to bring it up because this could be pretty special and likely could be a big surprise this season. I want to talk about Cleveland briefly. All right, because I'm not excited about anything there except for a last one rookie.

Right. They're going to run a lot more 11 personnel than Stifansky's ever done. He's never been an 11 personnel fan. They have to. They have to. Yeah, he's going to do that. You're going to see that. The question is, does that help Elijah Moore?

They're not down on. It's just Cooper's still there. He got his contract redone. It's only just this season. Jerry Judy, they extended at the trade. So Judy's got to be accountable. Judy's going to be, he'll be more and Judy are inside, outside receivers. They could play, they can play slot and they can play, they're a Z.

Oh, yeah. It's like a competition, the battle of the underachievers. Who can let us down more this year. Elijah Moore and Jerry Judy. I know, but the only reason I brought it up is Moore who we've been down, you and I loved him when he was a rookie.

He's been on the downward trail. I would take more with like my last pick. I don't know if anyone's drafting him, but he's a guy that he's on a contract drive. He's on a contract year. It's a Charlie Brown, Lucy, with the football situation at this point. I mean, I've been eyeballing them all year.

I'm like, there it is. I have even taken. them a couple of times. Like 200 overall. All right. So let's go to, let's go to Pittsburgh, okay? Uh-oh. So, I don't know if this is

Yeah, so San Amalo's got a pectoral strain. It's going to be a couple weeks. That's not good. They've got a problem at left guard. Because his backup, another former eagle, Nate Herbig, is out for the year. So it's a little scratchy. And remember, Brodrick Jones, didn't play well in that second preseason game right a little concerned so we don't talk about

offensive line enough that's that's a concern of mine early on i mean i've been high in the running game all year thanks to this damn old line yeah and roman wilson i'm told it's got a high ankle sprain that's why it's taken a little longer than we we thought so and we got we got to see i know he started work a little bit didn't go on i r though or p o no no no i know no john he worked today he worked a little bit yeah yeah so but it it's to for fantasy purposes to play him a lot to to start him. If you're in a very deep league, like 14 or 16 teams, I'm not doing it until I know he's fully recovered.

Yeah, he's off the radar. You know he's had a great camp and I hate to even bring it up. Dan Jefferson. He has been the story of this football team. Mr. Training camp. Well, you've loved the last year in the Rams. I remember. Yeah.

So you might, before you turn, before you have that knee problem, yeah. So I'm kind of out on them early on until they, they just got to get them. through some stuff here. And, you know, it's all obviously, other than Pickens, of course. Pickens, yeah, it's looking good. But I'm worried about protection. I'm worried about the interior of their offensive line.

They're going to have a brand new, a rookie center. Yeah, but Zach Frazier's good. Yeah, he may, but he, we'll see how ready he is. Right. Say, Molo's out. Broderick Jones, we'll have to see how good he's. Yeah, Photon. Foton.

He's just coming back with his MCL's brain. He had an MCL's brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Frimuth, what is he has a tight end?

he really is kind of falling off a little bit. Buzz kill, man. Buzz kill. Now, and we all know Arthur Smith's calling the play, so you know it's going to be for him to get hired, he has to run the football. Here comes score Daryl. Yeah, I don't see him be, you know, other than returning, I don't see him get on the field much.

Look, I like Harris and Warren at their ADP, so I'm not that threatened, but it's freaking Arthur Smith, too. So let's move on to the next division. Ad. Adi Mitchell is a highlight reel, you know? He's, is he most consistent guy? Maybe not. But Dynasty League folks, this is, I need to mention more stuff on Dynasty.

Shakir for Dynasty. I should have mentioned that. He's a Dynasty League alert. I want this guy any way I could get him in a Dynasty League. I want Roman Wilson for Dynasty. I know, again, this is not so much about this season for the future. I want him. And I want A.D. Mitchell for the future.

I will see as a rookie how well he does. But this kid can make, this kid. should have gone the first round of Carolina. They were very high on him, but they, you know, they went with Leggett. He could run. This kid's really gifted. I'm telling you. He's really gifted.

Yeah. He's even more consistent. But I'm on a long term play for A.D. Mitchell. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've been like laissez-faire, I guess, for this year. I'm not feeling it.

But they do need to get him out there. A lot of people think it'll be, you know, like a clear-out guy, you know, like Alec Pierce. He's not that he's not as explosive as Pierce's. Pierce's, he's not well-rounded. That's the problem of Pierce's. I told you when he was drafted that, that they were going to be wrong about that, the Colts. That was, you know, that was known in scouting that he's,

Pierce didn't have any versatility to his game and that kind of showed. But I'm very, I know Mitchell's got to improve, get sort of more well-rounded, but the kid, the kid's a baller. I mean, he's got an physical athlete. He's really gifted. It's just, he's just got to be coached hard and do everything in the right way. But he's,

he's a dynasty league guide I want. Alec Pierce was a learning experience for me. I mean, I thought he could transcend maybe a limitation, but, you know. Yeah, I think we all learn with these one-trick pony guys. Like, eventually they got to do more. And you know, I normally hate one-trick ponies. I know, but that's okay, because he flashed.

Maybe he did flash a little bit, but. And it's moved to Jacksonville. So this is, what people need to understand is they, the way they want receivers is not the way they wanted to. They want a Ridley back. They, 24 hours before he signed with Tennessee, he was going back to Jacksonville. And Tennessee jumped in and overpaid him. Hey, good for them.

So Gabe Davis is well known by their coach of staff. You know, he's from the area. He's got a gym there. The receivers coached Scott Hall coach him in Buffalo. And that's, you know, we get it. That's why he's there. But they think he'll get the ball more. You know, they think that his target rate will be higher with Jacksonville,

which is interesting because, I mean, they got to feed Brian Thomas, Kirk. If healthy, he's got to get the ball to tell him we know he commands the football. Because he's a dynamic slot receiver. And Grim's going to get the football. So I don't necessarily agree with that assessment that I got. I mean, these, you know, those people would know more than I would. Well, Thomas, a rookie little inexperienced. Maybe raw.

Maybe just working into the mix as a rotational guy? It's, no, he's going to play a lot. I mean, it's Davis, Thomas, and Kirk. They're heavy 11 personnel. Sure, sure, sure. And Parker will back up Christian Kirk as their backup slot. Devere Duvene is really a special, an elite special team's returner. Yeah, sure.

I guess maybe don't put a lot on his plate. Yeah, yeah. But I'm telling him, Brian Thomas, I want him, because I know the way that this guy, Chad Hall coach is. He's arguably NFL's best receivers coach. I want Brian Thomas for Dynasty. He's got a very good track, I think of this Chad Hall guy, developing receivers. And he's the guy that their receivers bought that truck for Christmas because of the way he coaches.

They love the guy. Now, what are his limitations? Brian Thomas is understanding how to separate on his own and being physical. He could run. He's got size. He's a good kid. He just needs development. So he's more of a dynasty league prospect.

Probably a limited route to, I believe. Yeah. Well, yeah, he needs work. But the passive game is going to go through Ingram and Kirk. You got the vertical game down, though. Yeah, you can run. And Gabe could run. We know he can go get it.

I just don't see how Gabe is getting. What do you got for him? I mean, Gabe's not good that good either. I mean, he's kind of like an A.D. Mitchell type in a way, you know, flashy at times. They think their thought, the thought process I heard was they thought he got open more and he should have gotten the ball more. Right. I can see that. And you've got him.

I like Gabe with 48 grabs. Right, 48. You know what? It's funny. I was going to say 50. So you and I see it the same way. I just want to clear up some stuff there. Their offensive line, they're feeling pretty good about it.

Let me see. What else we got? Anything else? Brian Thomas led the FBS in touchdowns. We've had 17 a year ago. A lot of screens, a lot of deep stuff. We'll see if he can, you know, to me, it looks a little redundant with Gabe Davis. But their body types are different.

The way that you use them is different. Like Thomas will be run after the catch. Post routes. We gave some more of a nine route runner. So there is some diversity of routes. But let's get to Tennessee. I got a lot on them. Oh, nice.

So the past of game does not go through any way she performed Hawkins. It's Ridley won. They don't know what they're going to get at the Hopkins. Because remember, he missed all training cap with his knee issue. Yeah, that's one of the. reasons why I'm giving Chiggy a little love. I mean, Brooks has been a great story.

I got to tell you, I'm not, fantasy doesn't matter. But as their top backup receiver, outside receiver, because they didn't know, this staff had no idea because they inherited him. He's been a good story of redemption.

He's in healthy, by the way. I was there for two days. I guess he, thankfully went up being a calf cramp on a nine route against Seattle. He ran down the right sideline right in front of me. I'm like, oh, man,

don't tell me this guy's out because he pulled up. And then he was, fine. He actually practiced the next day. So it goes through Ridley. Tyler Boyd has been a good story. I know other teams told me they didn't think he'd run anymore. He could, he's fine. He's their slot receiver. I didn't necessarily see that. Other teams told me their tape show that he didn't couldn't run anymore. I don't you. I mean, he was never a burner, was he? No, but, but he's got to get open and they felt other teams told me they felt two teams told me in fact that they felt like you'd have to scheme him open. He couldn't get open on his own anymore.

I'm not a problem with Tennessee. Okay. Yeah, I can almost see that now that you say that, thinking about back to last year. Okay. Yeah. So it's, it's really one, Hopkins, I don't have a feel yet because he hasn't practiced and I don't know how long. Yeah. No way. I don't know that they know. So we have to see where he's at physically. Eventually he'll be there too, obviously. That's why they sign him. That's why he's here. I mean, that's why they saw him last year and he's back for a second year. But, you know, he's a possession receiver. He really, by the way, is their Z.

Hopkins is the Rex. Just why that's important here, especially, it's the same position that Diggs played for Buffalo. That's why Diggs got moved everywhere. When Diggs was Diggs, he was unstoppable. Really, it looks great. Mine's great.

Explosive. Yeah, he is moving. He can still run. He looks good. I mean, I got no problem with Ridley. By the way, Adam, you don't want him on a Dex. because that's when you can isolate them, jam them, you know, like. Well, yeah, right, right.

And he's not an ex. He's their Z. And he's going to be there. It's really and everybody else. I would not draft Chico Conquo. I mean, look, I'm not excited about it. Yeah, I know he's athletic, but does Josh Weil or Wiley? I don't know.

He's going to play a bit. Right? Right. Yeah, he's number 81 out of UC. Who's the senior bowl guy? Yep. So, but the big story is polished their clear starter. I don't look I like tajay spears but pollard's their guy just so you know I still love spears

okay I'm just telling what you know where they're at pollard blocks better he's a better he's a better pass protection he catches the ball better spears has got juice that will help him getting getting the ball but pollish their leadback now does that mean staff shared 6040 65 35 they're still working through that I would think 6040 63 37 6040 that's the way I see snap share could vary some weeks it could be 60 could be 55 45 45 some weeks apology clearly back that's never been in question by the way he's making 50 times more than remember when you sign a contract like this you have to this guy's this starter going in unless he plays himself out of it he's been really good pretty happy with him just so you know oh

i'm sure he he looked he's looked good uh i for what it's worth and maybe i'll tweak a little now um i am with the exact same number touches but with spears playing an extra game. So on a per game basis. Well, here's the thing. Pollard was not really himself last season, because he came back from that fracture. I know. I know. And the scheme. Right. Right. Right. By the way, they're running, this is interesting. I was shocked when I heard this because you tell me, did Brian Callahan ever work with McVeigh? Did they work together? Well, yeah. Well, he worked with the McVeigh disciple. Right, but they're running McVe's offense. There's a lot of it. Of all the West Coast people. They're running a lot of

McVeigh, which I was kind of surprised. Was that Taylor? Sure. Yeah. It was with Callahan. Sure. Right. And maybe that's why I just found it interesting. Looking at Callahan's background. And what I Not the dad. Not the dad.

The son, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Because his dad work for Gruden. Yeah. His dad worked for Gruden. Right. West Coast. But there also one of the things that the other reason why I mentioned it, to help these guys out. They reduce their receivers. None of them are playing true outside, like really wide splits. You're going to see them reduced to free these guys open. So they're running a true

West Coast offense. When you watch these guys in the regular season, you're going to go, wow, a lot of slants, digs, timing routes. It's not a, it's not going to be super vertical offense. It's going to be a timing based offense. True West Coast when you watch it. And this will, By the way, this will help Levis get rid of the ball quickly because in a West Coast it's going to be out between 1.7 and 2.0. Sounds all right for Chiggy. Yeah, but he doesn't block very well. Yeah.

Well, that's the problem. No, exactly. No, I already waved the white flag from last year saying, okay, again, I'm sorry for these damn two years. Your offensive line has got, let me see, one, two, three new starters. Yeah. Latham is really a right tackle. It's playing left. They wanted the, they wanted Joe Alt.

That's who they were going to draft. Right. So, Latham's at left. Scronsky's back left guard. What's that? It's looking good. Yeah. Cush and Barry's their center.

Petit Farais is fine as a right tackle. Radiance is okay. Is the right guard? Right. They have a little bit of depth. It's going to be better. Levis, if you're struggling at a two-courtback league, I mean, struggling. Struggling.

He's, take them because I trust Brian Callen. hand and this Nick Holtz guy, this is his OC. I know they went to high school together. I trust the way they put this roster together with Pollard and Spears. You notice there's no power back. You notice that? What does that tell you? They're interchangeable.

They got juice, but they got juice. They want, they got really can run. Yeah, no. They got Chigoo can run. What's that? It's really amazing departure. Right. We're only going to be able to get through the AFC tonight, unfortunately, guys.

So I'll be brief. I want to move to, I want to move. to Denver. Marvin Mims, I don't people think he'll just be a nine-rout runner and clear-out guy. I get the thinking. They don't think that way, just so you know. Good, because I don't think that way. I think what happens is you see the aggregators where the beat reporters put stuff out there,

and they can only go by what they see that people practice. I get it. I know for someone who's been about 2,000 practices, you can only go by what you see. But that's not what they think Wims is. They think Mims is better than that, just so you know. you realize. I'm still in on him as a late pick. I don't get it.

Like he's been disparaged by the media. Yeah. Late pick, yes. He's like 220. Right. Now, might he be a little inconsistent because,

yes, he's in a supreme deep threat? Yes. Might be a little bit volatile. Sure. After the catch. Yeah. He's a really good kid,

though. He's a really good kid who's coachable. He's got a round. I like what I've heard about him. Now, D. Troy Franklin play with Knicks. We always have to remember that.

He could run. Troy Franklin. You want to be more physical. He just got to, you know, tune and put weight on. And he shot down the stuff about his weight, by the way. I'm sure you know about that.

He's not anywhere. The 180 was not true. Whatever was put out there. He's bigger than that. But I interviewed him in person. Yeah. Nice kid. Very nice kid.

Yeah, real nice. He's kind of tall. I mean, yeah. He's long. He was right there. Here you go. He's 16.

too. There it is. Yeah. Yeah. He just needs to keep putting muscle on. He's a little thin. He's a little thin. But he's not ready right now. Like he's not. No, but but it's going to be, they're going to be, Sean Payne's a big 11, 12, 11, 12, depending on the match. You know how he does it. He's not super heavy 11 all the time. He's not super heavy 12. The question is, will Mims play with Sutton in 12? Yes. That's great. That means Mims is a great freaking pick at 220. But understand. I'm not saying. he's going to play 100% of the snaps. They're going to rotate him in with Franklin and Reynolds. There's a free gambit right there. But again, Mims is a late round pick. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I don't want to overstate stuff. You know, I want people to get this right when they're, because I'm drafting and I'm trying to help people drafting this weekend. So I'm doing this. You know? I want dynasty, but I won both if I could. You know, like John and I in our league, we have, what, 24 spots? I'd like to have Mims and Franklin and see what happens their next two years

and then trade one of them, whoever becomes the guy. And by the way, Adam is doing this for the people. He's got to empty the insider notebook for the people. Ahead of the FPI. I know, I know. And I'm doing it also. I have two NFSCs, but I'm taking a page out of John. John put his stuff all out there.

He can care. He's like, I'm here for the people, you know? Yeah. Anything on the running backs, Javonte? Yeah, look, I'm sorry? Anything on like McLaughlin? A lot of guys talking about him. No, he's a change.

He's too small. Estimé for Dynstees a guy that I want Because remember now Sean Payton was not here with Javante Williams There's no allegiance to him past this season Right So yeah Javanti is the one

It's a matter of I don't have a feel for how much they're going to work In the other guys You know I feel like when you look at it I don't see Estimate playing much early on Unless Javante is really ineffective or hurt The Liam McLaughlin

I feel like commands touches Well, he's quick. He's got some juice, but he's also very small. But understand something. Right. Sean Payton's got a lot of say in personnel. Who was the one back who Sean was really involved in? Aldrich Estimate. Right. Understood. And that means a lot, John. I'm trying to tell you that for 23 years. It always means something, unfortunately, you know, for, for daisade. But, you know, why wouldn't you? And I'm sure Sean Payton is doing just this. Why would you give Giovante every opportunity to take. He's their lead back.

Yeah, he's their lead back. Yeah. So, well, my point was on McLaughlin, yeah, they need to get him out there. He's got more juice. They will. He's got more exposed with Chivante. But you're not given a man more than nine touches a game. It could be more than that.

I wouldn't rule that out. I don't think you're getting much. I don't know. I don't think you're getting much more. He's explosive, though, man, Javante, as much as we love him, he doesn't have McLaughlin's juice. So keep that in mind. I don't want to, let's go to Kansas.

I don't want to say that worthy is ahead of schedule. because he's kind of raw. The route running is what I was told needed to be cleaned up. But he's very coachable. Good vibes, I will say. I've been down all here. But again, John, how much does he command the football?

Oh, I'm not drafted his ass. Right. From a coaching standpoint, this is what I was told. From a coaching standpoint, when guys, when receivers coaches always say, how much does he command the football? Do we need to get in the ball 10 times a game in targets?

No. He's still going to be a big play guy. Yeah. Kelsey's number one. Rishi Rice has not been suspended, which is shock. And I get it. It still could be later in the season, but he hasn't been suspended. So until that happens, he's there too.

We've got to see what Hollywood looks like when he gets cleared. Oh, I see Mikul made it. Yeah. Well, they need him. And Juju is only there because of Hollywood and, you know, worthy also. And you don't know how much he plays. It's going to be fascinating because when they're all ready to go, once the last time

Mahomes had this much to work with exactly well gotta go at least Tyreek you know so at least 2021 and their line's great this is the most talent Andy's had to work with this could be really special Raiders

I'm all in To by the way do you think Somaget P. P. Ryan can get I mean come on Samajet Pryan is perfect there's like Damien Williams Well yeah because it can't Clyde is Clyde Edwards-Alair.

I don't know what's going on with him. Oh, forget that. It's some weird. And that Carson Steele's going to be a fullback. Right. But let's get to, yeah, he could be the handcuff. Yes, absolutely. Raiders.

I'm in on Zemir White with an asterisk. You have to understand this guy's got a major injury history. There were major concerns about his longevity coming out for the draft. Every scouting person I talked to said, low grade, low grade, low grade, can't, won't be able to, we're going to play four or five years. And that may happen. He's in year three. But he is the guy.

You know what I wrote today in the Good Vives, Bad Vives article? Oh, update. No notable cuts on the Raiders because they don't have any notable players. Yeah. I mean, look, they're going to be heavy, they're going to be heavy 12 personnel. Michael Mayers, their Y, Ted N. Bowers is their move toad in. I love, I went to their training camp, and it was so obvious what they're going to be.

Tray Tucker when they go 11, it's Tray Tucker, who's will be their nine-rout runner. Shot play guy. Yeah. I mean, he's good. He's been good this number. And I know, I know Pierce really likes Tucker's explosiveness. Yeah. It helps.

Yep. So that's it for the Raiders. All right, everybody. Welcome back into the Fantasy Points podcast, Brian Drake, alongside the guru, John Hanson. You got a taste of the AFC with Mr. C, Adam Kaplan. Now we're going to dive into the end. NFC as Adam empties his notebook. And this is just so good. I've got my note pad out guys right here. I've taken notes. The Khalil Shakir nuggets were great. I actually scarped him up in a draft right after Mr. C was talking about him. So I appreciate that. Well, let's dive in. Let's start in the NFC East. And if you know, Adam, you know, he also does a podcast called Inside the Birds with Jeff Mosher, one of my favorite pods. I listen to it often. Let's start with the Eagles. They had an eventful off season, Adam. Saquan Barkley is there. But going. On is Jason Kelsey.

Gone is Fletcher Cox. We've got this new offense with Kellynne Moore. Maybe Jalen Hertz can find the middle of the field when he throws the ball. And we've got some questions now at the third wide receiver. Johan Dodson brought in. Hopefully he can fill that role when they play heavy 11 personnel under Moore. So let's empty the notebag on the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, all right.

So let's get started here. There's some concerns. You know, Hertz dropped off. He didn't have a good season. Great for fantasy, by the way, which is odd. What an anomaly. but from an NFL standpoint, he didn't play well. He struggled to process information.

He just wasn't comfortable. It wasn't a protection standpoint. The scheme got kind of figured out. That was the word around the league I got that got very stale, and that's why Nick Triani's offense is gone. Did they even have one by the end? Did they even have a scheme? Yeah, he was bad.

Yeah, John, it was bad. It was bad. So Kellan Moore's, I know his offense real well, talked to coaches work with him. They'll run some tempo. They'll run some no huddle. Hertz will be under center a little bit. Not a lot, but it's a great scheme, very fancy, friendly.

Quarterbacks love it. You mentioned Jahan Dotson, who'll be their, he won't be their main slot receiver. Smith will do it as well. Smith's slot numbers are great, but they needed a third receiver, okay? They didn't have one. Britt and Covey, their punt returner, had a great camp,

who will back up Dotson in the slot. And Johnny Wilson, their sixth round pick who's got the longest arms of any receiver that was drafted 35 and a half inch arms, which is basically left tackle arms. Wow. He's huge. John, you and I saw him at the senior building. The kid.

It was just weird to even see him out there playing wide receiver quite a lot of. Yeah, because the question was, would he play tight end? And the Eagles are absolutely emphatic. He's not playing tight end for us. So my issues with this, and I'll give you a couple more fantasy nuggets, but. Cam Juergens is, he's kind of new to center. He only played a two years in college. He was a tight end before he converted to offensive line.

He was their Eagles right guard last year. Played pretty well, by the way. So it's going to be a little challenging because now you have two guys playing next to each other. Mackay Beckton, who's never played guard before in his life, never played inside before until the Eagles, Jeff Stout and their offensive line coach made the decision to move him inside. Now, you're always worried about his weight, though I'm told it he's down about 50 pounds from two years ago. Maybe he's in the 360 range, 355, which is not bad for him.

But you're always worried about stamina and technique because he's a very tall guy to play inside. He wears a sleeve on his right knee. Is he going to hold up? And the strange thing is his backup, Tyler Steen, also was a tackle in college who had never played guard before until last year. That's a concern. The line was not elite last year.

It was very good, but it's not elite from a tape stand. from what I was told. So that that's a little concerning. Goddard, look, Kellermore's tight-dance catch the football. They're going to catch the, he's going to get the ball. Now, Brian, you mention how hurts his risk of verse throwing it inside.

The numbers show you that. Last year was really bad. But I'm feeling better about Goddard just because of the scheme. Now, the one concern I have from a fantasy standpoint, and this ties into it from an NFL standpoint. There was way too much checking down in training camp. That was that concerned me. I don't quite understand.

I know that Jalen's new to this, you're new to this offense. I mean, that could bode well for Barclay or early. It could. Yeah, it could, John. I don't, you know, forcing him. Call some plays.

Like check the damn ball down on this play. Well, no, here's a thing, though, John. I don't think these were called checkdown. You don't call checkdown. It's just in there. Well, he's checked. down conscious, I believe, and maybe that's because they have Seekoine Barkley. I don't think that's it.

I don't think he's, let me put it to this way. He had an awful spring. Jalen was not ready. All right, so he's checking down because he doesn't know what's going on then. I wouldn't go that far. I just don't think he made progress. He had a solid camp, but I don't think he's quite there in total comfortability. He mentioned something, which is insane.

He's had like eight different play callers in his last 10 years of football. Yeah. And I think he, I think. We need to be just let let let him get the scheme down. He was way better in training him that he was in the spring where there were a lot of deflected passes. Didn't he just throw his first pick like five days ago? Right. But John, I think he was less.

I think he was kind of more risk averse. I don't think he was. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. I just, I saw it because I was at 10 practices. You know, I went to, I saw 16 teams this summer practice. You know, you take notes and this is something I saw.

and I don't know what it means yet. It's because of training camp, John. I'm not drafting him. I think he's going to be good because I love Kellyn's scheme. I just know the way he coaches and it's very quarterback friendly, but I would have reached for him. What's that? The tush push is still there.

That's a great question. Now, it's funny you say that. So a friend of mine, I can't say who it is, but he's an agent. And he asked me that. Actually, I asked him that today. And I said, well, with Barkley in there, You know he's going to get some goal line carries. Jalen will too, but to account for $12.5 million a year, and he's going to make,

I don't have the contract in front of me. It might be $20 million this season with a signing bonus and salary. Whatever the hell it is, he's not coming off the field very much. Now, I will tell you about Barclay, and this is where PFF's not right. His past protects, he's not a good pass protector. Kenny Gainwell is actually a better pass protector. I'm not going to go into how I know this, but I know this is a fact that Barkley doesn't scan pre-snap well.

He doesn't use his body well. That doesn't mean he won't be on their most third downs. You have to account for his contract. He's got to play on third downs, or this contract is like someone, someone's getting in trouble on their coaching staff if he's not under their third downs. But I'm just telling you,

watch how this plays out during the season. If Barclay starts struggling past pro, game well, coaches love. I'm just telling you. Tell me something good about Will Shipley because I love him. I love Will Shipley. John, he had a really good training camp. He's got way more juice than Gamewell.

Gamewell's a better pass protector. But for Dynasty League folks, this is a major down-the-line Dynasty League alert. And I'm going to give you a lot of dynasty tonight, more than I did last night. Game won't. My personal report on Will Shipley, because I sat down with him. Yeah. Old soul, old school. smart as a whip,

knows what the hell he's doing. I mean, this guy is awesome. The only thing, John, he's not a physical back. He's got great short area juice. He plays a lot. He loves playing out. You know, he's a more of a space guy. Yes, he could catch. Yeah, he's, the Eagles are a major inside zone runner team, running team, and he'll be good in that.

Yeah. But he's not real physical. He's got improved in pass pro. but I'm talking about more after the season, Gainwell's contracts up. Gamewell is a Sierra guy. Siriani pushed for him big time when they draft him. Like this was Sirianni's guy. Right.

But they drafted Shipley in the fourth. If you're in a dynasty league, keep an eye on this because with Barclay's injury history, which is major, because they're locked into Barclay's contract for a minute of two or three years, so Barclay's not going anywhere until 2026 at the earliest. And I'm not saying,

what's that? I'm kind of bummed that I moved from New Jersey because, as you know, a bunch of the Eagles lived in my old town. Seriani lived a couple blocks away. I'm like, man, it would be cool. I want to hang out with Will Shipley. I don't know where he lives. He's a ugly looking dude.

I'll say that. He's definitely different looking. He's just, I just got a great vibe from him, man, like old school. Yeah, he's pretty down to earth. Yeah, I've heard of fun. Down on earth. Oh, yeah. He's a lot of guy.

Yep. I'm just talking Dynasty. I think Shipley. This is a way down, like your last pick of your dynasty league draft. In fact, I think, did you take them in our dynasty? Someone stole them from me. I think that was the round I wanted him. I think you might have hijacked him.

Maybe I didn't. Let me see that. I don't know if I, I think maybe I did actually. I absolutely have such a great vibe on that kid. Yeah, he's got great sure of Jews. You don't need to be many practices. Dotson, here's the word on Dotson. He obviously has no fantasy.

He has no redraft value. who dying Steve really known. He got the former. Yeah, I got Will Shipley, baby. 38 pick of the draft. Yeah. Dotson is not physical.

The tape was bad last season. I mean, to give you an idea of how I knew Dotson was in trouble. Damn. I'm there the first week of training camp. They're talking up as a chaos and they're like, I just got the vibe they did not like Dotson. Totally.

And a week ago, I heard that a week, week and a half ago, I'm like, he's going to be moved. I heard it was like, wasn't good. Like, the front of staff were not, not happy with him. I had him on my target list. Yeah. I bailed.

Yeah. They're really down on him. Yeah. But he's now with a, you have to remember that coaching staff at front office was not there when he was drafted. They had no allegiance to him, John. I know. Yeah.

So. I thought maybe there was some sort of schism with the enemy in that scheme. But I don't know. John Dodson is a problem. But here's the thing. He gets a reprieve. He'll be there for two years. He's going to be there three.

He's more of a Z receiver. He really can't play X. He's not physical. Johnny Wilson is dealing with his concussion. But Johnny Wilson could wind up being. What's that? Yeah, it's going to say. That's what I'm getting to.

Wilson, when he gets healthy, could be A.J. Brown's backup. I just don't see Dotson being an ex-receiver. I just don't think he's strong. Hell no. Yeah. Hell no. But that's Philly.

You know, that's enough for them. You see Giants, just a couple of quick notes. Neighbors is, I don't want to put him in the elite class already. He hasn't played in NFL down. You know, he's a Z receiver. They're going to be more 11 personnel the season than probably last year. This is the fastest group of receivers they've had in years. Their past pro will be better with Andrew Thomas.

Right now he's healthy, okay? He had a major hamstring problem last year with Runyon. Michael Schmitz now has got a year under his belt. Luminor is not a bad player who did a good job for the Raiders last year. Greg Van Roten, he's okay. He's not great, did okay with the Raiders, but this is the best line they put together in a while. He would be a lot better of a player if he started telling people to pronounce his last name, Van Rotten.

I know you're going to say that, yeah. That is my contention. Yeah. Are you sure? Are you sure, if neighbor, is the Z. Who the hell's the X for the Giants? They used them as a Z when I was there. Jalen Hyatt?

And they have. No, it was really Wondell. See, they may open in 12, but they're going to play a ton of 11. It's good. Slaten's going to be the, you know, it between neighbors, Robinson and Slayton, however they want to do it.

But I was blown away when I saw Theo John, like they had a, they had one against Detroit. and joint practices. They spread it. They were spreading Detroit out. It was neighbors, Wondell and Hyatt,

or then Slayton and Hyatt rotated with Theo Johnson. I was like, holy smokes, the speed that they have on the field. Yeah. And if they could protect. Now, Daniel Jones is the way I understand it.

His timing was the real problem in training camp. Because remember, he missed it. Basically, you know, hadn't done anything since November. Sure. But if they could protect,

Jones could potential be better than people think. So if you're like in a, like I have friends who are doing, they're in two quarterback leagues and Superflex. You know, if you're dying, as John loves to say like, you know,

way, way, and by the way, he ran, I watch him against Detroit in the practice. He ran fine. He just, his timing isn't there yet.

Well, he actually, believe it or not, despite last year, he is on my list of targets, It's just because I cannot pass on a- Nobody wants them. I know, exactly.

I can't pass on an ROI opportunity over here. Actually, I'm looking at last year's draft plan where he's- That's a good way to say it. Exactly. But my line was something of when, if you're waiting through this skank, 20 picks in at quarterback, I submit to you one, Daniel Jones.

That's great. Yeah, John can't quit. There's some players over there, Sean can't quit. I mean, I can't quit looking for... You and John Maurer, the owner. He's like very close to... But anyway.

I can't quit opportunities, man. I got you. I got you, man. Okay. So, John fans feel good about their speed. That would be it. We're not going to talk much defense here. I'm very...

Well, let's put it this way. You know how this actually could be good for Daniel Jones, John? First of all, Devin Singletary is great of the job as he did it with Houston. He has no juice at all. Tracy's the change up. Right. but defensively, John, they got major problems in their secondary. They're going to give up points.

If they don't, if, if, um, Tibito and Burns don't get home, they're going to get torched in the secondary. I'm sure I'm going to be talking about wide receivers going up against number 28. Yeah. I love flot. Flot. Yeah. He's not starting.

Yeah. Because he's up plays, babe. I love this guy. Yeah. Keep them in a league. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, let's go to Washington.

is there anything yeah i love ben synod for dynasty son of him but and he's their guy long term but zach ertz is is cliff king or king bear king's guy i have predicted since like april zackers will be the tight end nine through week six this year that look i'm feeling he's going to surprise people he's another guy you could get way late and redraud and then i'll get hurt and then i'll get hurt yeah but i mean z that look Zach knows a scheme. That's why he's there. Oh, I know. Oh, I know. He's going to be there. Other than that, I'm not too keen on, you know, they were looking to acquire another

receiver washing. Are you keen on Dalton Keene? Yeah. He's still in the league somewhere. But that's it. Nothing. I just wanted to mention that one because I've kind of known about that for a while. You know, Robinson's their leadback. Echler will play mostly on third down, a little bit of a change-up. What about Chris? Chris Rodriguez now? He's,

yeah, he's on the practice squad, I think. I've had a bad vibe on him for once. Like, what happened? Yeah. He can get rid of,

he can keep him on the squad. I see that. But, I mean, you lose your job to Jeremy McNichols. It's got to be special teams. McNichols, no,

McNick was a phenomenal past protector. I know, but man, it's like, wow, Jeremy McNichols is still in a league. I know. This guy,

you can't quit. Remember how fast he was? He played, for Snoop Dog in high school, I believe. Did he? Okay. All right, Brian, let's go to the next division. Not did he was Snoop Dog. All right. Well, the one thing I did want to ask, before we got up Washington, is anything on

Austin Echler? Because, you know, you got Brian Robinson. Yeah, no, he's the change up and he's going to see mostly Tom and third down for sure. Okay. All right. You think he's got anything left? Well, you know, we had the ankle injury last year. I mean, not 29. This is a perfect role for him. He's not a lead back.

He cannot do it anymore. Oh, here's. Here's, here's Here's the key on Eckler real quick. I want to talk about Daniels in a second. I'm sorry. Go ahead. What do you got? He has to score short touchdowns or else he's not going to be worth anything.

He's not going to catch a ton of balls from Jane Daniels. I don't see Daniels checking down. He's not going to get a ton of carry. So if he doesn't score, you're screwed. That's my contention. Daniels, if you're in a two-quarterback league, if you're struggling, you're dying like John likes to say. You don't get, you get shut out for every second quarterback.

Cliff Kingsbury Talk to the people who've worked with Kingsbury Their quarterbacks will run inside the 10 He will and you know Daniels could run Daniels will score a bunch on the ground More than you probably think I don't know what you have projected Yeah, at least I really see that I really do see that

Okay well the news of the day came out of San Francisco So let's bounce over to the NFC West for our next division We're Brandon Oh sure okay yeah yeah yeah Not his contract. And from everything I've read to Adam, and I'm sure you can clear this up, it looks like it's the same contract that's been on the table since early August, and he finally just accepted it.

So Brandon Ayuk is in the fold. Now they can start working on Trent Williams, because that's another massive issue. Yeah, that'll get done. That won't be hard at all. No, Iuk's done. I know from the real concern with Ayuk is, and I know he's been in their building, obviously, so they know what kind of physical shape he's in. but because he is not practiced in so long in months,

they're not going to know how many snaps he could handle early on until they actually watch him practice, and they'll check his fluids of his hamstring and go through everything. Look, for fantasy, I nailed this last summer, and everyone who knows John and I very well working together at Series XM, I was when I took three years ago, he's probably my favorite receiver in the league, but I said, look, the problem is he's on the wrong team for fantasy.

He'll never be a true fan. number one fantasy receiver. DeVette's number two fantasy receiver, no doubt. He's always going to be capped. He's going to be run that five catch a game. No cap. No cap. It's not going to change.

Not this year, it's not. And now, more than ever. Now, and Pierce saw, unfortunately, it's too bad because I was told very strongly. Before he heard his hamstring in OTAs, he looked fantastic. I'm sure he did. And now his shoulder,

this recurring shoulder problem, he can't take contact, he's not clear for contact. I don't know about week one yet. We'll see. I don't know yet. He's not draftable this year. You know, he's not.

I love Ricky Pearsall like a son. Yep. And his ADP is wide receiver 67. I haven't at 103. Yeah, he's not draftable. Now, for Dynasty, now that they're locked in for Ayuk, the question is Debo after the season.

He's gone. He's got to be gone. Well, he showed up. I was talking to Michael Silver. I know he showed up. in great shape and all that yeah he might Mike said is the best shape of his career he's probably preparing to be the number one wide receiver well well no but john I think he because of his contract he knows what's in his contract there's no guaranteed money after the season right right now I will tell you

kyle I know dbo did some of the stuff kyle does with him but nothing not obviously quite what he's doing what he's done since he got there and this is a this is a Kyle creation this is his guy so I'm not ruling out a return but the problem is if pierceault gets his injuries behind them and could wind up taking the third job this year from Jennings later on maybe. I know Jennings blocks well. I get all that. They brought him back. They bought us restricted for agents to season out of them.

You know, I get that. But Pearson's got way more juice. Or maybe Jennings and Pierceell split the three. The other question is, and I don't know that they'll do it, particularly because Pierceell is hurt. But there's a coach I'm friendly with another team who worked for a coach who likes 12 personnel, but they have a lot of receivers. He goes, you know, at some point, you got a count.

for having a great receiver group, you've got to change your philosophy. So Kyle's going to have to get realistic. You're going to have to start going with more 11th personnel to account for everybody. Let me ask you a big picture question. I don't know these guys. I've talked to Kyle Shanahan

10 times. I've met John Lynch. I mean, stand up guys for sure. But you know, you get the trade lands, screw up. That was bad. I mean, that's really bad. But then they get put. Purdy right. Yeah, but this feels to me like a screw up.

Drafting Pierceall and then now. Yes, I didn't agree with it. But here's my point. Okay. When Brock Purdy balls the F out this year, how the F are they going to pay Brock Purdy? They have to. I mean, it's just. They're screwed. Yeah. I mean, it may, John, and I don't, I know they don't like restructuring like some of the other teams do or they may have to change. They may have to change. They may have to change. They may have to figure out a. way just to because John you know that this is all about the big reason why they didn't want to trade IUC and they were like they did all they could and they bent their structure they did some things they normally won't do yeah I put this out in May on sports court I said I said to Scott for us said I don't know what's out there I'm just telling you I could tell you as a fact

despite all the rhetoric and all the nonsense that's out there they don't want to trade them right they want to get the game changer yeah that's why I think Dibo God. Debo is gone so they can, that will be their excuse to sign Purdy. Well, with Pearsall, they can't, you can't keep everybody. No, you can. Of course. Yeah. So, we'll see what happens. So, um, other than that, uh, Isaac Garando, I have some great stuff for Dynasty League people. So he has, and this is from like multiple scouting people, maybe some of the two or three best hands of the draft for any running back, maybe the best hands, absolutely elite hands. Most people don't know this. Probably, I don't know

if anyone knows this. It's all from, you would have to, you would have to scout professionally to know this. Because it goes from his tape, I guess, where did he go to school for Louisville? I forget,

was it Michigan State? I don't remember. I'm not sure. I just know Louisville. Yeah. One person told me, it's funny, one person told me,

as fast as he was returning that 93-yard kick last week, he's actually, he's actually faster when he's running as a running back. He's a really good kid, really smart. He got two issues. Got two issues. He's older and he's been heard a lot.

And that's the problem for dynasty. 24. Yeah, he's a long-term backup for McCaffrey, I'm telling you. He absolutely is. Mason's ahead of him because he's been there. It's just a third year. But if you're looking for McCaffrey's long-term backup, I want Garendo. Really?

Just know there's a mission. I'm sorry? Over Mason? Yes. I mean, it's fair to say long-term, but we can't fast forward to December. Well, Mason, well, this, you mean, just this season, it's Mason as of now, for sure. I'm talking for Dynasty long term. Because our guy, by the way, our guy Jeff Schaefer texted me today asking me that question.

So I told him. Wow, how about that from Kirby Enthusiasm? How about that? I told him Mason. I have his email. I'll reach out to him. How about Elijah Mitchell done for the season? So, I mean, Jordan Mason, after this season will be a restricted free agent, just so you

guys know so his contracts up after this season they have to tender him well they don't have to they don't tender him he walks so that's just something to keep an eye on i'm told elijah mitchell suffered a separate shoulder coming out of the womb it's unbelievable i've john as long as you and i've done these shows other than like tim biacabatuka i'm going old school i don't know who else has biaqa patooka guy that what's that i love i was a big biacabatuka guy that one year man i was all in on him Couldn't stay all. It was great for about five games. Yeah.

That's it. But Garando, long term, I'm talking long term. That would be it for the diners. It's week three of Canadian tires, early Black Friday sale. These prices won't go lower this year. Maybe too long. Freezing. Save up to 50% November 20th to 27th.

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He doesn't really, you know, long term. I mean, he, you know what happened with Gurley. He's one of these guys who's going to just do that. This is what he does. He's like Tommy LaSorda back in the day used to keep his pitchers in forever. Right, right. Now, Corum had a good camp. He's smart.

He's tough. He's more physical than Chiron. I'm not saying you would draft Corum as individual plays. for fantasy and not have Karen Williams. But Quorum eventually is going to carve out a role because he's done what they've asked from what I understand. He's where he should be. Kind of why I dropped the fifth is no one thought he could be a lead back.

Yeah. I know he works great in that scheme. He does. I'm skeptical of him holding up. I really am. Yeah. He's sub 200 pounds, I believe. I mean, last year, John, you said it.

His ADP was like 200 coming into this season. He doesn't. Yeah, he just doesn't, he's not physical. He's great for the zone scheme. I mean, does a really good job. I know they mix their, I know they'll run some gap. I get that, but. We can have an O-line injury or two.

That's like a real problem for Karen Williams. I know he's got great patience and vision, but. Right, right. A couple things. So, you know, the left tackle suspended for two games, Joe Nobun, who lost his job to Alaric Jackson. He's back in there. Jonah Jackson's back.

They're feeling optimistic. for week one with his injury. You know, this Jordan Winnington, by the way, had a really good camp. He was six-rounder out of Texas. Drafing today in the Sirius XM Host League with my last pick. Oh, nice, nice. Here's what I'll tell you, and this is not a knock on nuke Pukunukuoka Nukua. So I ran into one of the former Rams assistants.

He explained me their whole offense. He said, the reason why Sean reduces the receivers is because he knows they can't win. Sean would never say that publicly. Makes sense. He knows they have to reduce them to win. They're all slot receivers. Right. And when you bunch them together like he does, he keeps them tight,

it's hard to sort if you're a defensive back. Rout combinations. Yeah, 100%. He goes, this is why Puka wins. And Puka's bigger than your avid. He's a big dude. I saw him up close when I was with the Titans. Excuse me, with the Chargers for joint practice.

So I learned a lot about this offense from this guy used to work for Sean. He just said, what he did say about running back to Sean is he believes they have to get into a rhythm and a tempo. And he feels like if he starts rotating him heavily that they can't. Like Gurley is a great example. Gurley was a rhythm back. He needed a lot of volume. Yeah. So I got a little bit of an insight why Sean does that.

Maybe he can pour him a couple series though. Yeah. I think he's getting too. series. That's what I say. Yeah, right out of the gate. Almost. Yeah. I don't about out of the gate. We'll see, but we know. John Carman's not going to. Game five. Yeah. Carman Williams will not last. He's just not going to. Right, right. Unless Carmen gets hurt with all the bulk of the carries in September. And DeMarcus Robinson, it's just remarkable. This is one of the most remarkable fantasy stories.

He's still the three over two-two. That's definitely happening. But that Whittington may play over DeMarcus Robinson at some time. No, he might take some snap, sure. Because he was blocking. DeMarcus. Wittington's. Yeah, well, I'll say this. DeMarcus came back because they gave him a little money because he's their three.

Not saying Wittington won't take something from him, but Wittington's ahead of him. Let me go to the Cardinals. Trey Benson is absolutely the future of running back. There's no question. Conner's on the final year's deal. They'll rotate Benson. He's the clear two. He was the clear two in training camp.

He'll be an RB1 if Conner's out probably. 100%. He's got size. He's a good kid. Everything's good. I think he's healthy as of now. Greg Dorch is starting opposite Harrison. George.

He's over Wilson? I draft him every week. I was told that two weeks ago by someone who would know, obviously worked for the team. And I'm like, what? I find it hard to believe. Every high LWC on Twitter is never of Marvin Harrison Jr. It's always Greg Dorch.

I don't understand it. Guys, I'm like dumbfounded. There'll be people Marvin Harrison fans screaming all your torch! He's 5'7 to 1 tenth of an inch. Come on, man. He's right on line with Kyler. That's why. You can throw a... Yeah, exactly. Kyla's not 5-9, yeah.

But, no, there's still heavy 12 personnel. That's not going to change. That's what Drew Petzing, who's a disciple of of Stefanski. You know, that's what they're going to do. I still like Michael. listen, I'm sorry.

I do. I mean, you know, the shoulder, John, it's a shame. He was doing well, and, you know, his shoulder problem was recurring last season. It's too bad, you know. I'm tweaking dorge projections right now here. I know. I had to, I had to bring it up because it's so absurd. You know, the coaches love him because it's a great story.

He's been cut a bunch. Yeah, yeah. Anything else left. Oh, absolutely. Oh, I was with the Seahawks. Oh, yeah. Oh, I got to get to this. Oh.

I'm not predicting this. It's Ken Walker season. No, no, that we'll get to him. him, we're going to start a receiver. I'm just going to say it would not surprise me because of the scheme they're running, which is heavy 11 personnel, is if JSN outproduced Tyler Lockett. Can't say it's a lock?

Well, I have JSN outproducing Tyler Lockett. Receptions. I do. Okay. I do. Good. At least someone else agrees with me. I have JSN leading.

I actually have him leading the team in receptions. I won. By one. By one. Yeah. All right. Let's get to your guy, Kenneth Walker. So one of the things I really like what they're doing,

they're splitting them out. They're moving him as a pass catcher. You know, he hadn't really caught the ball very much. Right. And I don't feel like Mike McDonald will micromanage his grub like Pete Carl did every OC he had. And John, you and I've talked about this when he micromanaged Brian Schottenheimer and when Russell was off to the best start of any quarterback in the last 25 years.

It was 26 touchdowns and eight games and then he took over. ridiculous you know that's what happened so yeah got it from people close the situation so i don't see that happening but i'm very enthusiastic with what i heard about walker in the scheme yeah i'm just telling you i'm all in for different reasons and probably you would have yeah no i'm i mean i've always been critical of walker but now that i know you were you crushed them yeah previously well now he's gotten to a point where i can completely ignore his flaws because you can get him in a fifth round this year. I'm like, I'm in on that all day long. Because I regretted not being in on him last year, even though he wasn't great. But, you know, it kind of hit me. I'm like, damn, that's normally a guy I'm

all over. I should have just ignored, you know, my nitpicking. The bottom line, though, is Zach Charbonnet was a jag. He was. He had a couple minor injuries. And the other thing with him is, yeah, he'll help them on third down, some short yardage, but I don't see it being more than a 70-30 split. You typical backup starter split? Yeah, no total. I don't see it. I just don't. Walker's got way more juice.

Yeah. At 11 personnel, it's going to be good. Farrow Brown will be their Y-Ted end. This will help free up Noah Fant. Noah Fant's still not draftable until he shows me something. But I'm just everything I've heard or being around the Seahawks for two days with the Titans, I was very impressed with Ryan Grub and how they feel about him. Right.

I give Mike McDonald. What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? I don't have a great feel for him. It's more about the stuff I got on JSN, just, you know, hearing stuff. I don't have a great feel for what he might do.

The offensive line is okay. It's nothing special. It's okay. Gino, I think we'll do well in this scheme. Quarterbacks, they'll play, they'll do some tempo. They'll speed things up a little bit. Yeah, I'm excited about Ryan Grubb. I think Seahawk fans and our fantasy people.

Gino is another two in the two quarterback league if you're dying. I kind of like Gina this year. No, again, all I care about is can I come out looking good and say, oh, by the way, his quarterbacks, he'll move his quarterbacks. That's why they won at Sam Howell, who's very athletic. Yeah. You've got to roll them out. Gino might run a little bit.

I want to beat the ADP. That's it. That's all I care about. And so if the I, you know, if the ADP is 80 and I like the player, I want to be above that. And I want him to outperform that. And in that regard, I'm not a Gino person per se, but I like Gino as a late, late pick to kind of beat the crap out of his ADP, which is QB 26. I've got him at 20. new coordinator.

They do have three good receivers. I mean, come on. I know. Oh, by the way, real quick, for those watching this who see it recording or live, who listen to Adam and I on CirrusXM, you may get this reference,

but apparently Adam tonight, and thanks to Chad Hassee for alerting me of this. Okay. Tonight is Filipino Heritage Night at Dodger Stadium and everyone gets a bucket of lumpia. That, you know, as a vegan that I am, I got to get the vegetable or the vegan Olympia. Ironically, I first tried Alumpia that year.

Spring roll, right? It's a giant spring roll, is it not? Yeah, so it's like a cheese steak spring roll, basically. Oh, oh, I see. Okay. Yeah, okay. I'm a lupier guy. So that would be the NFC. West.

So Garindo is an interesting name. Jason, I like. Corum, by the way, Corum for Dynasty, he has a chance. It just depends on Williams' health long term. Williams will not be challenged this year. There's no way it's happening.

We're just talking about long term. If Williams continues to get hurt, John, Corum could be the long-term guy, you know? Yeah, I'm projecting that. I have him, let's see. Geez, I might even have him higher than Kyran, which would be. Meaning for dynasty.

You mean for dynasty? Yeah, I might. maybe not let's see here that'd be bold but i've got them at 20 rb 23 and i do have kairn at rb 15 but that's pretty close okay uh next division right all right yeah so guys if you're watching this on youtube make sure you hit that subscribe button last night we went over 10 000 subscribers it's a great day for us here at fantasy points thank you guys very much uh but if you haven't yet subscribe please do so there's great dynasty content best ball redraft college Tennessee football. It's all here.

You know, we have the podcast form, but we had this great, great YouTube channel. Hit subscribe and help us out. Well, Mr. C. Real quick. By the way, Brian, sorry to cut you off. Brian, real quick. Sorry to cut you off. I want to correct myself.

I was looking at the consensus rankings. That was what I just said, quorum 23 and Kyron 15. I have quorum at 15 and Kyran at 17. So I do have Blake Corum higher than Cairo. Over the next three years, I believe Blake Corum will have more value than Kyle. I got to get it. You know, we got to talk.

I got to get in these rankings for the future. I got to have my own. I'd love to do that. Got to get all up in. You want to have your own column? Yeah. We'll talk. I got to get, we'll talk after this.

But all right, so where we go? Next division? Let's go to the Bears. Everyone was watching the Bears on hard knocks. And, of course, all the news with Caleb Williams. And now they've got, you know, all these weapons for the number one overall picks. So there's a lot of excitement that Bears fans think they finally got their first franchise quarterback since Jim McMahon.

So, you know, and they know, DeAndre Swift, they gave him a big deal, the second free agency open. So there's a lot of excitement around the Windy City. Yeah, I'm pretty bullish on him. I like Shane Walden's a very good schemer and play caller. Now, I, because of the two tight ends that they have, they're going to have to be a heavy 12 personnel. That's just the way it is. at least for this season. Because Everett's got to play.

He's super explosive. You notice that they, you mentioned DeAndre Swift. Gianre Swift is a spread runner. It's very fascinating. See, this is, this is interesting because Everett was a slot tight end. Kmet is a Y tight end, who's an athletic Y tight end, which means in line. But he moves a little bit better than you think. It's fascinating.

But these two tenants have to be on the field. There'll be what we call an 11-12 team. They'll switch off. probably more than Waldron did because remember Pete Carroll wanted them to be a 12 personnel team Waldron. They also drafted Roma Dunezane and I get it, but remember, Keenan Allen is on the final year's deal. I don't, I'd be surprised if they brought him back because they're doing it for sure. Rome was drafted in the top 10.

He's got to start next year. Of course. So, but I think they'll go 11, 12. They'll bounce back a lot. The past target group is amazing. They haven't, and poor Tyler Scott, who I mean. met at the at the at the at the at the at the at radio row i mean he's he's he's explosive he could be the shop shop play guy right well rome can to rome too rome will do a little bit of it but

and obviously dj more you know calob's thing is he's going to see things he's never seen before you know we we saw we saw early you know in uh preseason he did some really interesting things you know he's off schedule this is more for West Coast offense. Absolutely. So it's going to be a challenge for him. That's a concern of mine. But the cool thing is they have so much talent around.

And I got to give Ryan Paul's credit. Yeah. I crushed him last year. But, man, DJ, Moore, Allen, Supreme Possession Receiver with Swift. Herbert's a change up. Roshan could help him a third down if they needed to with Kemet. They have no weaknesses. Whoever.

And Walter knows Everett, obviously, from Seattle. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the only issue is the interior of their offensive line, John, is kind of shaky. Yeah, center. Not great, but it's a serviceable offensive line. I'm feeling it. I'm definitely feeling that this thing could be fascinating. It is crazy.

You and I've been together hosting shows for over 20 years, Sean. We're usually out on the Bears' offense. It's rare that we like them. We did like Cutler back in the day. We did. We were cutler stands, but Cutler never really was consistent. Yeah. But Cutler never had this talent around them.

The Past Star Group is super deep. Oh, yeah. Now, for individual players, Keenan Allen will be their main slot. I don't know. The thing is, it's going to come down to Dunse. Everything I've heard about Rome has been great. He's learning.

He's doing well. He's absorbing. He's going to be good. Terminology. I've heard great stuff about him. Yeah. But he's still a rookie, and Alan and Moore have to play.

And he's so overvalued. Yeah. Like basically people are drafting him presuming that Keenan Allen will get hurt. I mean, that's my opinion. Oh, yeah, yeah. And we've seen this before that you're presuming a lot. It's more, John, for Dines Dio, Dune's a long-term solution, obviously. He's going to be starting on the outside once Keenan Allen retires, which won't be back.

You would think after the season. And then they could have just. He's like a. seventh round pick. That's great. I just don't see it. It's the same O.C. that couldn't use JSN last year.

No, but yeah, but you're not good. You don't understand. I thought I explained that. John knows this guy told him what they were doing. I told him, I told everyone last year was Pete Carroll. Get out of JSCN.

No matter what people are telling you, they're all wrong. Oh, I agreed. I told you, I don't give a clue what's out there. Every fantasy expert's wrong. It's not happening. Not, not me, though. They don't play. They're not until Pete is out,

they're not going to be an 11 personnel team. Right. It's not going to happen. Right. Now, J.S.N. did okay. You know, he did the best he could. Don the stretch. He did.

Despite all the micromanaging of Pete, but I know that team better than most reporters do. I can tell you, Brian, and I haven't been wrong on them, and I don't know how long. I mean, I was given John play-by-play one year of like everything was happening with their offense. 2020 was the one where I thought,

oh, wow. Pete Carroll finally gave him. in. That was the let Russ cook year and he actually gave in the analytical data letting them come out and throw in the first half. I was like, I can't believe it. Pete actually gave in and then he had enough. So, yeah,

I'm not usually wrong on that team and I warn people you're going to be wrong on JSN thinking he's a fourth round pit, whatever hell he's going for fantasy last year. Yeah. But that said, that said, yeah. Romadunes is actually, ironically, he's going about where JSN

was going last year. I just damn. Yeah, I don't feel it. I'm with you, John. I don't, not this year. And I love, I really love Roma Dunza. I really do. I see Lyre Fitzgerald, you know, like, I see that. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the only thing is, though, that could help him. If Waldron changes in philosophy and goes more, more 11 than 12, Doonese could wind up being better than we think. I just don't see it. I mean, it's just because Everett's got to play. Everett ever, ever, ever, ever came there specifically because of this scheme in Waldron. And Colcomette is there, he signed his extension.

He's a good play. He's got to play. He's going to be able to feel a lot because he's a, he's a wide, he's an inline blocker. Right. You know, that, that's, we know he had a great year last year before he got hurt. But his first responsibility is to block. Yeah. So I, they're going to, we'll move on here.

They're 11 and 12. Sometimes you just got to let a talented player, like Roma Dune's age, just let him go. Yeah. Too expensive. We'll see. I'm going to. I'm going to look into it and just check back with those guys, but I didn't get, I didn't hear a let. I wasn't getting the vibe.

They're going to be a heavy 11. Right. Okay. All right. Detroit. Okay. I'm in, I'm finally giving it on Jameson just because I,

you know, I was telling John last year about some things Jameson had to do better from, in talking to them. Oh, finally. Yeah. I've been in all year. Yeah. I'm liking what I'm hearing.

I'm cautiously optimistic that he's grown up. He's matured. he now understands what it's like to be a professional. I mean, you're playing with a Mon Ra, there's a guy to emulate right there. I mean, he, I just feel like sometimes guys just got to get out of their own way. Yeah. And route running had to be better. It's been better.

He was a highlight show in training camp this year. He's healthy. You dropped, a little couple drops, I heard. He doesn't have the greatest hands, but they keep telling me he's uncoverable in practice. Nobody can cover it. Good, good. I mean, Tim Patrick helps him a little bit too. Yeah, I mean, it's a, yeah, who's a mature guy, yeah, yeah,

who's in the practice squad with Arob, by the way. Yeah, right. Wow. Our guy. That's our, that's our radio co-ho. You loved it when I told him he's my breakout player here in 2015. He was like, really? Why?

I'd go, because they told me, like, your chemistry with Blake was great. And he was laughing. He's like, all right. Remember I told him about, I loved a prop last year on a Thursday night game with him, Alan Robinson. And it was like over a freaking 12-yard. and the quarterback playing the game was so bad. Last play in the game.

It was like Trubisky got him the ball and he hit the prop. I'm like, nailed it. Yeah. You know, it's so funny. He was going to be an eagle, but he turned their offer down. He went to the Rams. Right. Hey, Rob remembered that.

He was like, oh, yeah, last play the game. I was like, yeah, right, man. He's like, oh, yeah. All right. So Detroit, I mean, Gibbs looks great. it's it's the same backfield. Nothing's really changed.

Their offensive line is obviously is really good. It's a little bit older. It's gotten older. I'm glad they son this two veterans, Brian, because they don't, their depth of receiver on the 53 is not very good. No,

so that was a problem last year. John's favorite guy, Raymond, Caliph, Raymond is their three. Isaiah Williams was a great story. The Sun-drafted free agent out of Illinois. Your guy, Josh Reynolds.

He was very good for them. I know. I know. It's too bad. Yeah. He's a little banged up with a Denver. But that's it. Nothing.

I'm so in on Gibbs. I'm just, I don't know what else. I assume everyone is. Yeah. Yeah. I like him and Montgomery. You know,

I told you John last year, the thing that shocked them is how physical he was. Remember in training camp? I told you. Nobody knows this, but he's incredibly physical and they're going to lose, use him in more surely anticipated. I know Montgomery got a lot of goal like here.

But what's that? He's one of those players. Yeah, in a little bit of a time share, but if you have the God-given gift of sight, you know anything at all what you're looking at? You're like, this guy is so good, I'm just taking them. And that's it. Like, I'll let the chips fall.

Yep. Hey, by the way, before we move on, I forgot to say. So I'm drafting two NFFC leagues. Check my Twitter out. I pinned it. So I'm drafted tomorrow night at 805 Eastern on the Superstation. 8-05. Tony Shavani to call the draft.

Yeah, exactly. Do you know I met him, Brian, two years ago? Do you know that? Did you? I had, he called me one time. I bought a T-shirt from his podcast, and he called him to play baseball for 20 minutes. Oh, nice. Yeah, really nice, guy.

We had a great talk. I was at the owner's meetings, and I went up to him. We had a great talk. Yeah, he's funny. He called me a Mark. I go, dude, I haven't watched wrestling in 25 years, man. I don't know anything about it. I know you're big into Eric Bischoff's podcast.

That's a really good thing to do. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, yeah. In fact, I almost worked for Bishop Until they didn't, he, At the Philadelphia Civic Center, he, he killed the house show, so I was out of a job.

Yeah. So, so that would be, the, the buzzer, the buzzet, the bell guy? I rang the bell, yeah, for $50 for Gary Jester was the, was the, um, and that was W.W. No, WCW. Oh, WCW. Yeah.

Was that Vince McMahon? No, no, Vince McMahon's WWE. Is that what they called on? Is that like Bobby Backlin? No, well, No, no, no, back on was WWF, but no, WCW is Rick Flair and Ted Turner. Oh, okay. So on TBS, I said the Super Station, you know, 605 on Saturday.

Yeah. So Detroit, yeah, the reason why I'm all in on Gibbs other than the obvious, as you said, gift at the site, everything they've asked him to do, he's handled. Good, yeah. Everything from a past protection standpoint, knowing that the only reason why they didn't want to play him early on, in the first couple weeks is they didn't want to give him a lot of volume because it's a lot to ask a rookie running back to play. They had to deal with Montgomery's contract. But they wanted to ease him in. They didn't want to.

Because I asked him, I remember asking him like, why are you guys playing him? He's a rookie. There's a lie he's got to learn. You don't want to put it all on him. And then once they got there. And as you said, John, and I agree, you and I saw it the same way. I could give a crap whether Montgomery is the lead back. It didn't matter.

It didn't matter. He's so special on elite Gibbs? Yep. And I love when they told me he's so physical. I was like, wow, really, I'd never heard anyone say that before. I'm like, that's good to know. Camara prop comp is real, man. I like, yeah, he's more explosive than Camara was.

Camere Gibbs last year from weeks 10 through 16. So the fantasy semifinals was the number two running back in all the fantasy football. Average 18.8 PPR points again. And look, I'll update Jamison Williams from behind the scenes as we go along. if we're doing stuff together, which I hope John and I are doing a show Friday like we were talking about. We'll work it out because I'm going to keep an eye on James and Williams because the only person who could stop James and Williams is himself. I'm just telling you. I've been way over on him.

He's one of my top. He's elite, John. Yeah, I mean, come on. This is the kind of guy I've been getting behind for 30 years. Right. He just has to do, keep doing it, man. Just don't stray. Jared golf can get him the ball very well.

Like, I mean, is he Patrick Mahomes? No, but Jared golf can get the ball down. Well, Ben, it's John, and here's our thing. Do not underrated. Ben Johnson is one of the best scheme open guys. Oh, yeah, yeah. You notice how wide open these guys get? He will be open a lot down the field,

and Jared golf, more than not, we'll probably get him the ball if he's protected. Yeah. It's going to go well. Nothing really to add on the porter. I mean, I just don't see how the hell he's going to keep up the touchdown total. Yeah.

Yeah. But. Then again, he is awesome in the red zone. I know. I know. I mean, it's all, it's like they don't cover him. Yeah. Green Bay, look, Watson's healthy.

Wix is kind of, you know, I was talking about him last night. He's the NFC version of, to me, is Shakir. But you got to be careful. There are morphamount if he here. Watson, Dodds, Reed, Westgrave. Even our guy, Bo Melton. But realistically. there's some games he just won't get the ball very much.

Don't try to be a hero and overdraft him. We all love Wix, Donatavian Wix, but everybody wants to seem smart. Oh, yeah, I'm going to draft him. He's a great sleeper. I get it,

but what kind of numbers you think he's going to put up week to week with all those other guys who have to do the football? I mean, Romeo Dobbs is a consummate professional. He's got a good chemistry with love. Jane Reed, we love, I love Dobbs the year before. I love Jane Reed last year.

He was great. I mean, they're really missing a Christian Watson breakout. So that's where all my money is going this year. Yeah, I know, no, John, and I don't agree on the, the, the, the past targets. I don't think he commands the ball as much as you think he does. But we'll see. I only have him with 55 grabs, by the way. That's it.

That's it. Where you were talking about this, Frank? I am. I'm at wide receiver 37 is 80. That's nothing. I don't care. I don't care what the ADP is. Dude,

I thought he was a breakout player of the year. He is. He's, I'm calling him my breakout receiver of the year. There you go. See? Wow. Okay.

I mean, I like him because he's healthy and I like that he did the research on the hamstring. They kind of figured it out. He's a good kid. Let me, let me explain too for, you know, people looking and watching and who are looking at the stuff that I do,

like the 200, top 200 cheat sheet. I mean, this again is an example of being, way head but not ridiculous. Christian Watson, ADP 103, let's call 104. I've got him at 78. You know, that is what, 26 picks.

That's two rounds and above. That's saying like draft this guy. But it's not like, oh my, I'm not like putting them up there with like, you know, even Michael Pittman or Christian Kirk or Terry McLaren yet. but I am basically all in. No, well, the ADP is reasonable, I think.

Very reasonable. Yeah. And that's really gotten that up. Right, right. I just don't, the way you were blown them up in the spring when we were hosting our show together, I was like, geez,

you're crazy. I was like, you wouldn't stop. I was like, all right. But if his ADP right now, we're 75, I'd be like, yeah, I'll take him at his ADP,

but it's not a must have. I am saying must have. because I'm, 103 is really, really reasonable for someone with his profile. Very good. No, very. Because he's just, he's just got to stay on the field. It's another guy that I spent eight minutes with. Really good vibe.

Yeah. Great kid. You know, he's like a son of a preacher almost. And then, of course, our friend Gary Melton was dead came on the pod and pretty much confirmed that, yeah, great kid, you know, like, that's a great receiver room. It really is. It's the deep, it's really, Wix, Melton. I'm just talking about like dudes, like good dudes, you know.

So, you know, the offensive line's fine. They've overachieved. They're not very talented, but I give them, they're very well coached. But, you know, the scheme's changing. They're going to a 43, which is crazy with Jeff Hathley for Boston College head coach. But, you know, we don't really should talk to them. They got some players, though. I mean, you know, with a new coordinator, they could turn it around.

Yeah. that would be it i got a good feel i got to be careful the way it's just because people use this against me but i'm not down on jerson jefferson jeffers as much as other people are because of darnald so i was just talking to someone to work with sam darnald and said look anyone who studied him knows the issues the processing is he he freezes you know sometimes he doesn't know what to do and he gets sacked he gets hit and yeah yeah but he did a good job last like he did he played in the westco scheme last summer with shanahan he's playing the same scheme this year with ill connell he knows it's time you got to get it out connell's great at managing

quarterbacks i'm i'm i'm just not as i know a lot of people are off are you know jumping off off bridges because because don't know's thrown to jefferson i'm not saying it's going to be great i just don't think it's be as bad as people are saying i think it'll be okay be okay. Nick Mullins got him the ball last year. And it's just Mullins play for Shanahan. He was there last. I think I might have more confidence in Mullins.

Yeah, he's probably processes. In fact, I know he processes better. He just doesn't have Donald has a strong arm. But I'm just letting you know that Donald, the guy I spoke with who would know about, he knows plain about Donald. I can't go too deep into it. But he just said,

look, it's a good scheme for him. It'll force him to get rid of it. Sam's coachable. There are limitations with him. Yeah. It's a shame that his processing and the brain is slow because it's a waste of space. Because I've seen Sam Darnold close up. He's got one of the biggest nogins I've seen in my life.

Big redhead. You know, it's a shame, John. J.J. McCarthy was so good in the game he got hurt against the rating. Oh, I know. I know. Monumental. Under duress with bodies around them. it off.

He made a jump, I was told, the two weeks before he got hurt. Like, he started understanding the West Coast scheme because he had not played it before. And it was starting to come to him. And it did in that damn game against. Oh, it was so great. And look, shout out to our guy, Brett Whitefield, because number one, Brett absolutely knows ball. Yeah. And he was out in front on this over everyone.

I don't copy off of him, honestly. I do actually have my own opinions. honestly and I loved McCarthy too. But, and that maybe part of that is because I really do trust Brad, but that was a great, I mean, look, we're, we'll see. I haven't played down yet. Yeah, he hasn't played down yet. Let's not go crazy. I know, I know.

I know. But that was very, here's John, here's the thing that I don't care if he's playing against fifth teamers. He's going to be good. Exactly. Well, the traffic that I saw, I was able to see some coaching tape. The traffic that was around, I was like, wow, that surprised me. They were, it made great throws, man. He drove it.

Everything was, he was lined up correctly. He just looked good. So I'm feeling good about him. What's that? I don't know if you saw it. Not to get off on a tangent, but Brent described the play to me. And I saw his cut up of it, but there was a play where he literally fooled the safety with his body lean. Mm-hmm.

And do it like a little bit over here. And it blew Brent's mind. He also threw two. He threw a couple really good deep balls. I was like, wow, okay, he might be a little bit more ahead of schedule. Because I remember I defended Brett. I said, listen, I know a lot of NFL people I'm close to do not like McCarthy at all. I mean, a buddy in mind gave my low third round grade.

He said he's basically Kenny Pickett. I was like, okay, listen, these guys know more than anybody. But it doesn't mean they can't be wrong. I felt that everything I've heard about O'Connell is he's a quarterback whisperer. He's great at reaching court. He's a former quarterback. He's great at reaching. and guys not ask them to do things they can't do.

Cousins was great under him, by the way. Yeah, yeah, sure. So we'll see what happens. But I'm not, I'm not afraid. So why am I bringing this up? If you're drafting this weekend like I am in three leagues, I'm not going to shy away from Jefferson's my first receiver. I'm just not.

I would, though, unless he fell to me at like 10. Well, yeah, I'm going to. Would you rather have Chase with Joe Burrow? A.J. Brown with Jalen Hertz or Garrett Wilson with Aaron Rogers. I mean, those things are around. Wilson, Wilson, who's, I'm so into Wilson this year. I'm like, what do you, not to go off to the AFC, what do you think of this report that that's chaos with the Jets? Do you see that?

No. Okay. All right. What are to say? Like, what are we talking about? Somebody reported. Runs the team and there's all kinds of internal chaos because Rogers has power. Yeah, he's got a lot of.

in their building. I mean, I didn't see the report, so I don't know. He's got a lot of juice, yeah. But I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. If I don't, if they win, that'll cure every. Yeah, and they're going to, I'm telling you to win that division. If he plays 15 games, they'll win that division.

You're going to win. They're going to win. Aaron Wilson's this year, CD Lamb. Yeah, I agree. I agree, man. Based on the way I heard they're going to use them. So, yeah, that's it. I mean, it's, it's, oh, we didn't do the.

fancy south let's do the cell so all right go over there and make sure you're following mr c on twitter at kaplan nflin check out his great work over pro football network and sports grid take him out with our guy scotty ferell shake it up i love that guy remember him on old hoard one-on-one days i have a framed picture forrell i was a kid and ferell was doing nationwide radio and uh he autographed it and sent it to me i had it on my wall when i was like nice yeah i was actually you know scott and feral in my early 20s and i'm in my early 20s and I guess I wasn't radio at the time, but I'm like, yeah, this dude's cool as hell. Fast forward years later, I used to go on that show on Howard 101 every, it was like Wednesday night.

It'd like for like an hour. He's great. He's great. Let's start with Atlanta. Yeah, all right. Everyone's talking about, you know. They should be. And I got-

Smith is gone. Here comes, you know, Kirk Cousins coming off the, the Achilles. So we'll see what. happens there. But I mean, if it doesn't happen for Drake London and Kyle Pitts and Bejohn here, just, I mean, I love. I was bulldozed stadium and build a Home Depot. I had some really good intel on Zach Robinson, so I'm definitely all in on him. I'm in on him. I didn't know how good, I'll be honest with that. I didn't know how good Bobby Sloke was. I don't think the Niners coaches who work with him

knew how good he was. Be honest with you. But getting back to Atlanta, I'm in on Zach Robinson. I love the way that I've been told, the way they use Bijan, the way they use Pitts. Pitts is totally healthy. He's over. He had two different knee issues. He's great. They're moving them for matchup purposes on line backers in practice. He killed them.

I'm so into Bejohn. The Arthur Smith experience is over. They're using Bejohn the right way. He's healthy. Oh, okay. Let me get into this. I don't know how this stuff starts. And I don't, I get stuff.

People ask me on Twitter, is this true? And I don't respond on Twitter, but I'll just respond here. So I guess there's some fantasy, what do you call them, experts or pundits who said that Alger and Robinson are a timeshare that's complete nonsense. It's a little, yeah, basically made up. I don't, again, I didn't see it. I'm just responding what people asked me on Twitter. So.

Oh, yeah, Bijan and Alge. It's totally false. It's no different than any other backup starter. it's coming this year, folks, with Bijan. Unless he gets hurt, it's coming. I'm telling you. Now, do you like him or Brice? I've been asked that by my friends who've already drafted.

I said, I'm going to repeat what I said. If you want the short thing, it's Brise. If you want the upside with, if you want the upside, it's Bejohn. Whatever you want, take it. I'm probably going to take, if I'm in a PPR lead, because I know that we're going to use Bijan. I want the ups I want the home run John. I want griffickness. And you know I was on Brise, the day he was drafted. I said he's the next. I mean, it was the next Jonathan Taylor, no matter what people told you.

Absolutely. That's what I said. I know you didn't quite see it that way, but I did. Yeah, whatever, but I absolutely loved them as a pick. Yeah. And I love, I'm in on both, but I want Bejohn. I want the upside. Yeah. If they're both there, I'm taking them. You can't go wrong, by the way. I don't think you can, Brian. But it's only because of I talk to people work with Zach. I know the way he thinks based on people I've spoken with. He sees it like a quarterback.

He sees it the right way. Every indication I've been given has been good. Their offensive lines, okay. It's good enough. Their depth is not good. That does worry me if somebody gets hurt. Do you worry about maybe a slow start with Kirkie not playing? We do have, we have something of a,

little bit of a challenging start here. Pittsburgh, at Philly, KC, could be a little bit of a slow start. I would say this. But if so trade for them on the cheap after week three or four.

They're playing, and the first game is at home, by the way. Kirk's back in a West Coast scheme. It's a good scheme for him. He knows it. He did great with O'Connell. Robinson's running his version of it, which would be more of a Gave-based.

By the way, real quick, that's the toughest three-game stretch they have all year. So if you don't get a Falcon, I'm telling you right now. And it gets better, man. Then it gets better. I could tell you, the Buccaneer secondary is not very good. Panthers are really bad on the secondary. Seattle's overrated in the secondary. They play Tampa again.

Dallas-Loss plan. What's up with New Orleans? They're all healthy, but. And they got a daybo in Lattimore. Right. They're inconsistent. They're inconsistent. But that's not easy.

where's the pass rush so oh but and look you're right john although i'll tell you what steelers are bad at nickel they still don't know who their nickel is i'm not buying dante jackson they're not deep at corner you could spread them out yeah i think zach robinson's smart enough to come out with more 11 you know early on i mean i get it raymond mcclott and casey washington aren't exactly great it's an ardy smith revenge game yeah i know the arty smith ball but Mooney's their shot play guy. For what I was told, they've done a good, Zach Robinson's had a good job moving around to free him up.

Because John, I told you, he's really small. He plays small. You have to free him up. He physically won't win. And you know what? They lost Rondale Moore. They are really thin. I know.

Exactly. Good point. I'm all in on pits. You know how I always say. I always get these guys wrong when I take tight ends. You know, every year there's like a group of tight ends. people taking the fourth through six rounds are super athletic they all fail yeah every time i do it i get i never get him i'm on the wrong year yeah yeah i don't i'm i'm i'm in i'm not aggressively

enthusiastically like pounding the table but i am in i i well and by way this is the first year they can extend his contract like it they they he could get extended in season if he's going off yeah so this is a big year for kyle i mean i know he's got to they rolled over fifth year option for next year but Right. The year before last, 2022, I thought people were crazy, taking pits at 35. I actually said that. But we also didn't know he was hurt is who he was. No, I'm talking two years ago.

Okay. I was out. Last year. No, no, he got hurt two years ago. Well, he sucked before that. He was, it was Arty Smith. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, thank God the already experience is done. Yeah. But last year, I thought, okay. You can get them now in the sixth. I'm signing off on that regardless. The mistake was, Artie was still there and suckage at quarterback was still there. Those two things are taken care of.

Yeah, right. And that's the other thing we should mention. There are no excuses. And Kirk's fine. He's physically over the Achilles. Obviously, Pennixes his back-up. Although, I will say, real quick, I saw a video of Kirk talking about pits

and how he kind of teases him about, you know, hey, you might want to go after that ball a little harder, things like that. So maybe Pitts might be this unicorn who never really truly brings it. This is a huge year. John, he's not the most physical guy. Yeah. That's the only true knock because this was this guy. Maybe that's what I'm kind of confused.

Yeah, I'll give you that. I mean, I'll give you that. Yeah. You mentioned how the, how there's no depth on this Falcons team. My God. If Bejohn, London and Pitts don't go off, Darnel Mooney's the two. Then after that, you're looking at Ray Ray McCloud and Cadero. Hodge. I know. And it's good Casey Washington. And Charlie Warner and Ross Dwellie, a couple of cats.

They're wide Ted ends to help the block. That's the only reason why they're there. That's it. Yeah. And they know that they're West Coast offensive tight ends. And by the way, let's not forget. One of the other impediments to Kyle Pitts was John who freaking Smith. I know.

John Smith was killing him. I know. I don't remember that. Let's go to Carolina. Sure. I'll have a car now. Yeah. That's good at Carolina.

So Bryce Young, you know, he's making a jump, looking good. Yeah, a little better. I wouldn't draft him in a school quarterback league. I'm not, I'm a little worried about his body type. Still a little worried about that, you know, that does worry me. I feel pretty good, though. All right, but Thielen was great last season. He was like the only story on offense that was good.

They actually have depth. I mean, they're good. Yeah, they're in good shape here. John Leggette. John Leggett's just raw. Yeah, I'm not in. He needs a lot of work. It's going to be Deonté and Deonté, you know, he's bucking for a new contract.

That's it. That's it. And, you know, Mingo, they're actually of depth, which they didn't have last year. Yeah. They've got the two wide tight ends with Jutavon Sanders is their move tight end. Sanders, see, John, he's another one of these guys like Gerald Everett, these flex tight ends. They usually don't for fantasy. They usually don't make it.

You know, for fantasy? Oh, for sure. Yeah. The only other thing going on here is I do think Chuba Hubbard will be a sneaky pick for- He's their lead back. There's no doubt. He's their lead back. For now until what.

If you're screwed it running back, right? Let's say you go receiver heavy, take a quarterback tied in early. Take freaking Chuba Hubbard. He's one of your starters. And then figure it out from there because Brooks is not playing until week five at the earliest. Yeah. And he's doing well. They made a decision when they drafted them.

Most teams that I talked didn't agree with it. He had a clean ACL. They made a decision as soon as they draft them. They're not, they're going to take the slow route. That's fine. That's fine because he's going to, John, he is, he is another one of these special backs. I'm telling you.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I hear you. He's got a chance to be really damn good. Good kid. Everything I've heard, you know, just unfortunately, you know, He's got to, you know, he's come back from major injury.

But long term, that's a guy I would be in on for Dines. In fact, I trade for him since he's on NFI. Yeah. Hopefully the owner has him who's scared. Oh, no. I don't know when he's going to play. Take advantage of that guy. I want him.

Right. There's nothing else really. What's that? How about Tampa Bay? Well, we'll get them a second. I love that kid, man. I just want to mention that Carolina. feeling a lot better about their offensive line. The key to it is Iki,

iguana or left tackle has been very disappointing the first two years. It's up to him. If he plays well, they're going to have a good offensive line. Yeah. He was terrible week one last year. He didn't play well. Well, let's go to New Orleans first time. We'll go to Tampa. Okay. Um, yeah, Kendrae Miller, John, it's not going to happen. Well, it's on Iowa. Yeah. He's in the Chateau Valley. He literally has been hurt the day that, you know he was hurt before the draft him, right? Oh, I, I, I wasn't, he, ain't on him at all until this year for about three months i'm like hey yeah they got skank behind i know i get it i get it you know um and i bailed a month and a half ago their their offensive line

is really shaky to be honest with you it does worry me yeah um now clinkubiak is calling the plays here he's they're the pure west coast i think this is good for car he's played in it before it'll force him to get rid of the football quicker yeah Another weak receiving core. I mean, AT Perry is a fun player at a good camp. Now, there are going to be a lot of 12 personnel, so I don't know how well he's going to do. If you're looking for a late round flyer, you never know because he's really tall. He has some ability.

He would be a guy. But, yeah, that's, I'm just worried about their offensive line. I'm not, basically what I've heard. There should be some concerns. They have no depth at all. There should be some concerns there. And Trevor Penning is like, what the hell, man? this guy's all over the place yeah well he he was a that's why they directed foiega

um but yeah McMillan I like Jeline McBill and I like a lot I really do yeah he's uh you're down the line for dynasty I mean two years from now they're gonna don't have to make it as someone's gonna have to go I think he's playing over Trey Palmer oh no he definitely is I'm just talking about down the line though he's good I interviewed him at the combine great guy he's willing to do anything like inside outside like he'll be outside like good route runner. He's really consistent. Like he's good. Yeah, they brought their line back. Now, Graham Barton's going to move from tackle to center.

That's fine. He's played some guard too, but he's going to be their center. They're going to have a decent offensive line. They're another team with not very good depth in their offensive line, which is concerning. It's better, though, than last year. I mean, all they have is Hainzie who's back. Well, I'm, I'm assuming the number one pick is good. No, we're starting, but I'm talking about depth from a death. Well, I'm just saying last this time, oh, yeah,

depth-wise, yeah. I'm just saying the starting five, let's start there. Yeah, no, Brettison's not bad. He won it. I think they will block it for Rashad White better than last year. Well, Rashad is not going to change what he plays. You know, it's, it's not. Block it up a little bit better for him, though.

He'll do better. Yeah. I'm hoping Sean Tucker could push Bucky Irving as the season goes along. Now you're talking with my big Syracuse S behind me here. Yeah. I'm hoping he pushes him because he's got more juice in Irving. The only problem is that Bucky Irving is more. is more of that traditional scat-back change-up, right?

Well, Tucker's more explosive, but Buck Irving was drafted versus Tucker was not, and that doesn't mean something. So that's the issue. KDott, and I, you know, I've always liked him. Just doesn't get the ball enough. He's solid. I know.

He's very sneaky, but he just doesn't get the ball enough consistently. Yeah. That's pretty much it, guys. William Cohen going to run. I'm sorry? What kind of offense can we expect from Liam? West Coast. It's West Coast. It did a great job. I did talk to guys who work with him at Kentucky. He's a pretty good play

caller. Good schemer. So Baker was for a cup of coffee in LA a couple of years ago. It was for like three or four weeks. Yep. Yep. Until he went back to Kentucky. Yeah. So I'm liking it. I think he's going to work out. I'm liking the scheme. He loikes it. There's nothing in particular about Evan. There's just nothing really to add it with Evans and Godwin here. It's a step. I like Godwin this year. Back in the slot. Yep. More slot.

A little Cooper Cup roll here and there. And I think with Palmer speed, you know, hopefully, I don't, it was really odd how he, his yards per catch is so bad. Because he's a, he's a speed, he's really a non-wrap runner. I'm kind of surprised. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not better. But other than that, that's it, folks. Oh, that's all, folks.

All right. Well, let's answer some questions here. Do it, man. We promised it. So. Do it. Stephen, I miss Mr. C. I see.

Oh, comments. Okay. Oh, okay. Uh, ballsy. Noah Brown of the commanders, by the way. Yeah. And he'll be on their active, he'll be on their active roster relatively soon. Gentleman right here actually paid $4.99 to ask this question.

Oh, wow. Yeah. He's got a draft tomorrow. And he got the second pick. So he's stuck between. I just answered it, Brandon. Yeah. Breast and Bejan in a full PPR.

Which way you'll lean? I got again, I want the upside. I want beach on. Again, you cannot get it wrong, Brandon. You just can't. Let's go by the schedule. Here's breezes. He's got the Niners.

That's a little scary. But then Titans, Patriots, Broncos, Vikings, Bills. Pretty good. Steelers, Patriots, Texans, Cardinals, Colts, Seahawks, Dolphins, Jags, Rams, Bills, Dolphins. It's pretty good once you get past week. one. Atlanta.

Actually, this is a good tiebreaker. I hate to say it, but I really do at this point. I'm going back. I'm kind of devolving in some ways because I used to not worry about schedule. And now I'm worried because I saw a lot of schedules screw up some players last year. Bejohn's got Pittsburgh, Philly KC, as we talked about. See, with me, guys, John knows this because he's working me forever. And Brian's listened to me so he knows.

I'm about play caller. I evaluate every play caller. I'm big on trust. And I have a high trust with Zach Robinson. He's never done it. I know, but you know what? And the kid in Houston showed me, you don't have to have called plays before.

Sure. Be really good. And by the way, Bruce, we're doing with Hackett. Yeah, but he's got help this year. And I can't really go into it,

just to say he's got some help. I know. I have heard that, you know, he's not running the show. He's calling, He's calling the plays, but he's got a lot of input. I'll leave it at that.

Right, right, right. Well, to answer the question. I'm really, I'm really in on Breece, but you can't get up on. I'm going Breece, just because that's where my projections take me. Okay. But again, if you want the upside. Oh, Joe Saviano, yeah, I talked about Fant. I feel, not that he should be drafting him.

You talk about Noah Fant? I assume. I don't know of any other fan. Yeah. I saw it. I was, I was pretty happy with the way that Grub was using the tight ends. Yeah, fans. bad. But again, I don't want to miss my starting. If I'm carrying two tight ends, sure, go.

He's probably going to be one of the first guys we write up about, oh, the craziness is. Okay. He's made a $10 million a year, which is insane. Did he go in front of Hawkinson? I don't know. Sounds right. I don't know. I'm not sure, but I just can't believe what Seattle's paying him. It's just ridiculous. Well, I see, this is an advantage of ranking on projections because I'm projecting his role and then projecting his stats and I've been ahead of the markets and I don't really give a crap about Noah Fant but I've been ahead of the markets on Noah Fant because I'm going off a projection. He's going to make folks 10.5 million. Well, he's got a two year deal but he's making 10 and a half a year. Jesus Christ.

Now, Hawkinson was the eighth pick of the draft. Fant was the 20th pick. Okay. Okay. All right. What else we got? We got another guy who gave us a couple of dollars. Thank you guys for these kind of super questions here.

We appreciate it. This is more open-ended from Jason. Jason Kenyones talking about his 10-team PPR league with, you can see all the names here. Mahomes, Barclay, A-Chann, St. Brown, Cup, Dell, Kelsey, the whole litany of guys. And he's looking for trade ideas or if basically he should stand Pat with this roster. Look, I love A-chan. Barclay, we think has a better year. I think this team is solid.

I don't love Echler. Aaron Jones, you know, we'll see if he ever stays healthy. Jerome Ford, you know, is very replaceable, but he's going to be. going to start the season in Cleveland. You know, I love Brown for the Bengals. I don't know, Guru, what do you think with this team? It looks like he's got a lot of kind of running back. Yeah, yeah, I mean, the obvious answer is look to trade away, the old guys,

Cup and Keenan Allen, but, you know, obviously most people will say, you know, no, oh, you're trying to sell me an old guy. So I didn't see anything there. They really made a ton of sense. But, you know, looking at like Cups ADP is still getting some love for. here. So it's not like people think he's dead or he's worthless. Then again, like, are you risk? Is it a risk? Because what if Cupp stays healthy this year? Maybe you win a ship this year. I wouldn't count on Cupp beyond this year. But yeah, that would be the easy answer of the old guys.

There's a question here. And kind of we can spin this into just a handcuffed discussion. Kinger wants to know, is it important as a Christian McCaffrey owner to have Mason as the handcuff? or is it unnecessary? You know, there's a lot of folks in fantasy that'll say, I want someone else's backup. So when they get hurt, I've got their player. My thought process is, well, if I have Christian McCaffrey and he gets hurt, I'm down a running back.

So like, I'm screwed. There are certain running backs who if they get the role can be RB1s. And maybe in that scheme, anybody can be an RB1. Like Alexander or Madison. Yeah. Yeah. Remember those days with Madison. I'm taking Mason.

If I get CMC, same with with kairn i'm making it a point to go get blake quorum yeah and also jordan mason's good hand of vime he's a big dude he absolutely good hand of volume i believe they're going more to gap over the last couple years to for c mc and that's mason's strength anyway and i just feel like every time i turn around they're kind of talking them up about how much has improved the last two years and no question about it man uh that's always the fun part of these fantasy drafts too when you see the guys maybe they don't know as much what they're doing and they're reaching really for these backups. Just

go over to FantasyPoints.com, download our cheat sheets. You can even get guru-specific rankings. John's got his own section on the site. You can download his top 150. I'm printing it out myself. I'm going to be bringing it to my drafts. I got to update it, Ron. I got to update, though, tomorrow,

I guess, from the IEUK news. I got to adjust a little bit here. Shout out to the Fantasy Godfather. I see him here in the chap, Lewis. So what's up? Godfather. Let's say another one here. Full PPR as a redraft league. Amari Cooper, Tank Dell

or Deontay Johnson? I mean, I have Cooper higher. I mean, he's kind of the alpha, so is Deontay. But I mean, Adam, do you, I got to go Cooper. Even though I'm feeling pretty good about Bryce Young and not great about the quarterback situation there for the Browns,

uh with de shaw watson but i mean i feel like uh we're starting getting some momentum here for uh d t r adam in cleveland uh he's very raw man he's he could run but he's he's they throw a laser touchdown in the pran john he he's but they're talking about james there's been rumors of james's no they were trying they were they had too many quarterbacks so they wound up cutting huntley all right hudley yeah whatever um but you know what But if Watson does suck, as the Miz said, he can, James can throw the ball. Off into the other team, yes, but he can throw it. So he wouldn't, Cooper would be just on the game.

I'll just explain. James will not start a game if Watson's healthy. I don't care how bad Watson plays if he does play badly. There's no chance Winston will play. I hear you, but guess what? Based on what Watson's shown me, if he's been bad, I know. If he sucks, he'll get hurt again. because he's faking it.

They're so, they stupidly gave him four years, five years are fully guaranteed. It's just stupid. If Watson sucks again, he will get hurt again because he'll fake it. I'm just glad that Cooper did well as he did. Thanks to Joe Flacco, that's the thing.

I know, I know. I said, Deshawn Washington doesn't want to play. And people are like, oh, what are you talking about? But hey,

we got a question here. Rob, don't call me Eric Bischoff. Says, like Drake, I took Hawkinson and I, I heard him. Given Mr. C's comments, who do you like in the short term?

Your guy Conklin, Taysam Hill, who's getting a lot of hype here in preseason, or David and Joku, who finished hotter than anybody at the tight-end position last year. I mean, I don't love Injoku this year because, again, I'm worried about Watson, but, I mean, he's the answer. I mean, I'd have to roll with him over Conklin. A little bit, yeah, I would agree with you, John. Are we talking, I mean, we're talking price considerations here, then that's different. Conklin's got his ADP is so low last time I love.

Who do I like better as a pick? It's Conklin. Who am I drafting a star being a joker? Gary Skyler, or Clark Skyler, excuse me. Guru, what's your favorite new Georgian cuisine? Ah. Oh, um, pimento cheese spread. Uh-huh.

Delicious. Ooh. Yeah. All right. Boys, I'm going to have to run a couple of minutes. So anything for me? Anything left? let me see i don't know that's about i think we can wrap things up right here because i know guru

probably needs another beverage and uh i just got done playing nine holes and smell like a dumpster fire here thank you for dinner so uh and i got to go celebrate my one over par to close my season so wow are you serious yeah man oh i missed uh god the birdie put out or not a birdie but missed a uh wow par put uh that would have won it it doesn't matter nobody cares but it's pretty cool round and my partner won the long drive contest so Hold on. We have Queen Maud here. Guru, why are you so low on Roma Dunza? I think we addressed this. Kathleen, don't call me Maud. She was in the Philly draft Adam last year. Well, we already addressed that. Rewind it when we're talking, I guess, bears. I don't want to miss anything here.

Thoughts on Garrett Wilson. We hit it. No, I think we're good. I think we're pretty good here. I'm so Wilson's my crush this year just because he finally knock on wool with with Rogers. Just the way that they're going to use Wilson because they're changing. He went from being their their ex last year to their Z. That means a lot to me the way that they're going to move Wilson around. Rogers is such a trust in him. When I saw what they were doing them with the Giants last week, I was at that joint practice,

you hear about it from talking to people. Then when you see it, I was like, wow, they really are. start doing this. Yeah. Craig says, what about the St. Passroads? What about Carl Grannerson,

Chase Young and Cam Jordan? That's not the problem. Yeah, that's not the problem. No, Cam Jordan is great, what's a 34- long?

They should be way better than they are. Trust me. I'm a Chase Young hater from day one, though. He's, he's been absolutely dreadful. Oh, Chase Young.

I thought you saw him about Cam Jordan. Yeah. Chase Young. Awesome. But he's like 34 now. His dad, you remember Steve? Of course I remember his dad. All right,

guys, I must run. Good stuff. Well, let's get out of here. Thanks, everybody, for hanging out with us. Good luck in your drafts this weekend. And we'll see you next time for the Fantasy Points Podcast.