Fantasy Football Daily - Fantasy Points Podcast | Guru's Fantasy Football Draft Plan

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

In this episode of The Fantasy Points Podcast, "The Guru" John Hansen and co-host Brian Drake dive into the Guru's Fantasy Football Draft Plan In 2024. Where to find us: httpp//twitter.com/Fantasy_Guru http://twitter.com/DrakeFantasy http://twitter.com/FantasyPts FantasyPoints Website - https://www.fantasypoints.com NEW! Data Suite - https://data.fantasypoints.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FantasyPts Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@fantasypts #fantasypoints #nfl #fantasyfootball #dynastyfantasyfootball #FantasyFootballAdvice #dynastypoints #dynasty Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Commissions fees and expenses may apply. Read the funds or ETF's prospectus before investing. Funds and ETFs are not guaranteed. Their values change, and past performance may not be repeated. Hey, what's up? It's John Hansen. And on this week's Fantasy Points podcast, Brian Drake and I go deep dive. We go all up in there in terms of my 2024 draft plan. We talk about roster construction, which positions. Do you want to maybe hold off on drafting early on in your draft? Some of the players that I'm into, all kinds of stuff going on. It is draft season. So stay tuned. We've got. got an hour of 20 minutes plus of great content, draft related. It's a wonderful time of the year. And as always, thanks for liking and subscribing.

And you're welcome. All across the fantasy universe, welcome to the Fantasy Points podcast. I'm Brian Drake, joined by the guru, John Hansen, a publisher of FantasyPoint.com. John, it's the show everyone waits for all year. You've revealed your article at FantasyPoint.com. It's the draft plan show. I know myself for 20 plus years. I've been diving into this article.

It's helped me win numerous fantasy leagues. And I got to believe the folks listening out there and the folks reading it at fantasy points, it's done the same for them. So it's a new year. It's a new article. You've got to be feeling good, man. Get this done. You got the move done. You're looking forward to 2024 now, baby.

You're ready to cook with some gas. Yeah, it does get me excited when I kind of lay my. my cards down on the table and here are my guys and you know it does get me excited i love being right about players i'll do whatever it takes to be correct uh i used to have that line on the radio i'm addicted to being right uh it is a great feeling when you get something right and i've been doing it for a long time i also understand the horror of getting something wrong so i don't want that as much as i want to get it right i also don't want to get it wrong uh so i try and pull from every single possible source that I possibly can it all gets added to the algorithm

going on in my brain there as I kind of you know covered the entire off season from the end of the playoffs went to the senior bowl went to the combine this year did the radio show full-time through what third week in June took some time off to move now I'm settled already got my first tropical storm out of the way first weekend uh Brian ironically we got very little water uh where I'm at I'm right on the coast southeast Georgia about hour and 20 south of Savannah my old town Haddonfield new jersey right outside of Philly about four blocks from my old house got more flooding than I did here oh my gosh Georgia so it's just weird wild stuff but yeah that's a good point because i'm starting to get a little settled in

got the camera shot going here uh getting excited and of course games are coming up you know we're getting all the news and notes from training camp and all that but for for me you know not in every case because some guys don't play at all but the games are very important it's usually for these young up-and-coming players now i also learned last year by the way you know the preseason can be complete BS as well. To wit, Kenny Pickett, and the Steelers were perfect last year in the preseason. But it generally is a really good precursor. Just the vibes, kind of taking it all in.

We're recording this before the first weekend of games. So when you guys are listening to this, the weekend games have already happened. So if, you know, somebody broke, you know, every bone in their body on the field, we're sorry. You know, we couldn't predict the future, our bad. Yeah, we're going to do our best here. to go through John's draft plan that's up at fantasy points.com. We're not giving it all away. We want you to go to fantasy points.

Sign up with code score more. We'll save you 10% off any plan over there. It's not only going to get to the article. It's going to get you the redraft rankings. Cheat sheets. Maybe you're into dynasty, best ball. Hell, college fantasy football is a thing. And we do it better than anybody else.

DFS props. It's all there. Use code score more. John, when you got into this, Do you think you'd be running a site that had college fantasy football and real betting tips and dynasty in every level of fantasy football? I mean, it's absurd the amount of content we put out. Yeah, yeah, no, I've experimented with a lot of other things. NASCAR dabbled with baseball a little bit.

I even did a little writing for that in the late 90s when I was actually playing. But, yeah, football reigns supreme. So college football might be the next growth area in the fantasy space. But I will say I'm also very excited about the player props because that's what I'm really, really into for the regular season. A lot of that has to do with understanding the matchups and getting all that right in terms of who's looking good, who's not, and all that. But I did see the player props coming.

And I could tell you this as the former, former proud. owner of player props.com, which I actually bought in the 90s and sat on it for like freaking 13 years. And then nothing was going on. And I let it lapse. Not that it's this lucrative domain or URL, but I was literally the first human being to own the domain player props.com. So I hard to say, I didn't see it coming. Consider I did that in the 90s. I was just a little too early. So folks, enjoy, sit back, relax. You know, maybe you You're mowing the lawn. You're in the car.

You're out for a run. We're going to have a good time here going through the draft plan. Just give me a little nibble, not the whole thing. And you might want to go back and listen to the last show because we really went deeper into John's lessons learned. But kind of the Cliff Notes version here, you know, we don't want to get too crazy here, you know, going deep into that John. But we want to pay attention to people's schedules this year, especially early, okay? You also talked about seasons within the season, rookies, guys, competing. for roles, people solidifying a role.

And finally, you want to focus on those play callers. So those really, I kind of wanted to boil down the lessons learned going into 2024. Anything else for the people out there they need to know? Yeah, not really. I think, you know, certainly a bunch of little things that were, you know, certainly reaffirmed, you know, like the, look, let's not forget about motivations for running backs, you know, Miles Sanders the year before,

balled out, got a contract, and was a complete dog last year. So you'd be damn sure I'm thinking about motivation when it comes to Javante Williams, who all of a sudden now looks like he's coming back. Sean Peyton talking about how he looks like a completely different guy. He's down 11 pounds, things like that. So we're not going to forget about that. But at the end of the day, not to make this overly simplistic, but again, I think people make this stuff overly complex at times. When we have young offenses, you know, immature offenses, raw quarterbacks, young quarterbacks, maybe new play callers, things like that, boy, there is a lot that can go wrong. And the schedule is a way to tip off how things are going to go. Many, many cases.

I understand defense has changed from year to year, and there are fewer, you know, shut down defenses out there in general but you know again i'd have to look at the pittsburgh steelers as being a pretty good example i mean i was high on the offense i think by the end of the preseason let's be honest with each other here everyone in the freaking world was high on the stealer offense with how they looked uh in the preseason yeah turned out that was bs going up against vanilla defenses and things like that but i would argue that Just opening the season for the Steelers, you know, against San Fran and Cleveland, those were, those were scary numbers. There were scary numbers bad on the bad side.

Then we had the Raiders. Houston was pretty good on defense last year, surprisingly, and the Steelers only scored six points. And then they had Baltimore. So it just, it seemed like that first few matchups. followed by some shakier performances after that in weeks three and four really just unwrapped things just unraveled nausea harris was kind of worthless for half the season the receivers weren't doing anything we can look at the giants too i mean that was another example ironically of the preseason vibes meant absolutely nothing but with the giants they have been in the past

a good precursor, a good sign of things to come, like in 2022, when the vibes were in fact good with the first year of Brian Dayball. But going into year two, I fell for it with freaking Darren Waller, you know, potentially bawling what happened? Well, no one could envision the O-line injuries and them being so god-awful. But you got shut out at home against the Cowboys. I know that's a nasty pass rush. Then in the ultimate irony, Daniel Jones was like, I don't even know if he was a top 32 quarterback

points per game. He may not have even made the top 32. Of course, week two, he was the QB1 for the week. So he went from hopeless in week one to the QB of the week, the number one QB of the week, the number one QB of the week in week two, and then back to being completely hopeless in week three against the Niners. And then even in week four in Seattle, they were pretty terrible. They never recovered from that.

So, you know, again, it's not easy. But when you have the small margin for error, I mean, we're not worried about the schedule with the chiefs. We don't care. Who cares? They have the chiefs still do what they do. But, you know, most of these other teams and the players that we're looking at as sleepers, these teams have not yet necessarily arrived. So I do think we need to pay a little bit more attention to the schedule, at least early in the season.

so we don't get off on such a bad foot that it just everything completely unravels. Good point. I looked it up, Daniel Jones, although he only played in six games, 9.5 fantasy points. That's good for a QB 43 on the season. Holy smokes. QB1 in week two. QB1 in your hearts.

Hey, let's take a quick time out right here. When we come back in the other side, we're getting into it, baby. It's draft plan time here on the Fantasy Points podcast. All right. Welcome back in, everybody. It's Drake, it's Hansen. We're talking draft plan here. All right, John, you put some of your approach for what you want to look at here.

People get into the article, and then you'll list the 12. And this struck me when I was reading the article that just dropped at FantasyPoint.com. The 12 consists of the 12 players you really want to base your draft around. It's kind of like, you know, your guys. People put all these articles this year. It's my guys. is my dudes, whatever. You know, you took out the top two rounds because there's no reason to have those guys in there.

You know, no shit. We know you should draft Tyreek Hill or, you know, Sequin Barclay. We'll get into more of that guys later. But when I look at this list of 12, and again, we're not going to give them all away. There are names that jump out at me and they're not even in really ADP order. Number one, Jordan Love. We can kind of talk quarterback plan here a little bit, but Jordan Love is somebody you've talked about all off-season. You named it the Summer of Love.

And he is being drafted as a top 12 guy, but it's a great value. You don't have to spend a first four or five round pick like the guys who were going up there and grabbing Hertz and grabbing Josh Allen this year. It's a real discount on a guy who's got some of the best weapons in the league. I mean, yeah, my approach, and we were just talking about this off the air, not to bounce around, but there's always an angle. Like, you know, when there isn't an angle, it's it's boring like trying to think of an example of course I had an angle on

McCaffrey on a negative side of things and where are we by the way with that I mean could be nothing yeah John you were saying earlier in the season how you were like I'm not in on McCaffrey at 101 he's getting a little old I think something's gonna happen to him we got this calf injury here he had a cash cap injury last year right and he always getting older it's tough so let's just pivot off that real quick since we're talking McCaffrey here. I mean, do you feel vindicated? He's going to play.

It's not like he's dead, but do you feel vindicated with your call now of like, hey, he's going to get nicked up a little bit? And you're even more sure that you're not going to take him at 101 in drafts. I mean, it's always difficult because we're speculating on injuries. And you can really come across as a real jackass. But honestly, if I'm being dead honest, a little bit because, you know, my point the entire offseason really i didn't say this like i'm saying it this year uh because last year there really weren't amazing alternatives you mean like i get it okay you know trade it's from

trade it to the niners the year before midseason it went pretty well let's let's go let's go back to the well it and and it i get it it it's like having 1.5 players but you know this year and we have other guys who could be 1.5 players. Jonathan Taylor is one of them. When he broke out that year, was that three years ago now already, that was like having 1.5 players. Bijan Robinson is certainly talented enough.

Our friend Ladani and Tomlinson, I asked him straight up before Bejohn played in the league, do you see yourself in Bejohn? Do you like the comp? Absolutely. Love it. I'm all in. same deal uh breese hall you know and then of course jemir gibbs is really good you know like very very

intriguing like young durable versatile in a really good spot so i guess my main point was why are we risking it and i did bring up how i thought mcalfrey did not look right in that game what was that week 17 against dc i had i'm going for 30 grand i watched this every day damn move. I did not think he looked very good in that game and then boom, he gets hurt. So maybe he was nursing something going into that one. Yes, he looked pretty good in the playoffs, but not great. He was kind of shut down on the ground, as I did predict, in that Super Bowl. And I love the over on his catches. And he crushed that because I thought they'd shut him down as a runner, which they did. Again, but he also had three full weeks to rest up. So my thought was,

well, what if we get something that is somewhat debilitating like this in week four when he's now a year older? He's had he's played 40 games the last two seasons. He's got just under 2,000 total touches in the career now in the NFL. You know, what does Bruce Hall have? 400? What does Bijon have 300, 290, whatever? Like that's a big difference. So I got to you. guess that was my point like why why are we risking it uh yeah you want to try to get one point five players but i'm not going to risk i'm not going to go on a limb trying to get one point five players only to get point five players because that's what mcalfrey could be i mean here we are in august we've got a calf issue that we had last year that that to me is very worcum it is somewhat reminiscent of

cooper cup last year people weren't panicking i was like no no no i'm out out on cooper cup last year yeah it's you mentioned that because whenever I see these guys now in camp, and there's a lot of guys that are popping up with injuries. Bukukua's got this Bursasack issue and we see guys with ankles and knees and whatever. If I ever hear anybody with a high ankle sprain, I'm out. Head for the hills. Forget about it. I'll see you next year.

Let somebody else draft you. That will not heal. I don't care if the guy's playing again in four weeks. He is never going to be right on that high ankle sprain. That's all like one thing I've just, you know, beat into my brain is if a guy's got that high ankle, trade him get rid of them let him be somebody else's problem so i had mcalfrey on our top 200 sheet like i have to make some sort of compromise obviously i had him at five so you know if you've been using the cheat sheet shout out to my my boy pete inkavilia who texted me because he needed the guru

rankings uh he's he's probably watching this uh inky inky the inky dinky man uh maybe maybe we helped you out there a little bit by ranking cd lamb uh tyrie kill uh Brees Hall, Brees Hall, and Bijon over, actually, no, not Bijon, just Brees Hall over McCaffrey. Really it comes down to this too when you're talking running backs. I know we were going to talk quarterback. Screw it. We're talking early around running backs now. But I have this thought.

You can draft next year because not everyone's going to have the first pick. You can draft next year's 101 and 102 this year. If you draft Brees Hall or Bijon Robinson, if you get them in the middle rounds, like, they're going to be the first two picks next year. I'm calling it right now. I'm putting my money where my mouth is. They're the 101 and 102 next year. So, you know, that could lead into what you have in your running back plan.

So we'll shelve quarterbacks for a second. Let's go to the running backs because this is where we are. You've said that you've, you know, you've never been more confident lately to take like four running backs than you are this year. And you listed several high end wide receivers who were going in round one that you said, I'm not taking these guys. I'll take my running backs that I love over these wide receivers right now and giving yourself a running back in round one, which flies in the face of everything that people were doing last year. When it's just wide receiver drunk, you got to get a million wide receivers and F the running back position. Yeah, and I was doing that too, by the way. I kept saying, follow the money because all these White House were getting paid big money. and then Jonathan Taylor's got to like do this huge dramatic holdout.

So I'm like, no, no, let's, I'll certainly take a running back in the first three rounds, but let's go wide receiver heavy. This year, I'm not as inclined to do that for two reasons. Number one, I do think that the elite tier at wide receiver has taken a hit. Part of that is Justin Jefferson's quarterback situation. Yep. You know, but again, I feel like there's, a pretty big drop off after Lamb, Hill, and Chase.

I like Amon Ra, but, you know, maybe Jameson Williams gets a little bit more this year. Obviously, it's, it's time for him to get a little bit, to gain a little bit of that target chair. I know Josh Reynolds left. I do like Garrett Wilson, but he's got the Aaron Rogers situation. I do like AJ Brown. I'm, who doesn't, but I've been skeptical more than not with AJ Brown incorrectly. but if I'm skeptical about somebody,

even while he's still relatively young, something usually pops and it happens. So maybe this is a year. I don't know. All I know is I heard directly that they traded AJ Brown because they had the Titans major concerns about the state of maybe both of his knees. To his credit, though, he's been very adorable.

Puka, you know, hey, he was unbelievable. Stafford is an older quarterback. I mean, can we do it again? I mean he'll be good there's no doubt about it but that good you know so I do think there's a drop off there and I also think that the number of like in terms of the tier one guys there's also like a slew of very good tier two and tier three guys I know we all want studs yeah but look puka was on drafted in many leagues last year and he was a stud and so you can get you don't need to get your quote unquote studs in just the first or second round I'm talking about, well, Debo, Devante Smith, and Michael Pittman. We'll see about Ayyuk with Pittsburgh, but for now, George Pickens. And then the list goes on and on and on. It's a really, really deep group and there's a lot of sameness there.

So on one hand, by the way, I am inclined to get one of those three at the very top of round one. But if I don't have a crack at Lamb Hill or Chase, that's the difference this year. Last year I wasn't really preaching anything at running back. I didn't even like Bijan last year, but as a pick. But this year, again, I think the landscape has shifted a little bit to where we actually have four, at least four. Maybe Barclay can be the fifth. And I do have Barclay right outside of round one. guys who truly deserve to be drafted in round one.

I mean, that's it. Like, why are we worried about running backs? Because these guys get hurt. And sometimes maybe they have a limitation like a Derek Henry. Oh, we're down 21 nothing. Derek Henry screwed. So my criteria at runnerback has always been. If I'm using an early pick on you, you better be young, generally durable,

and you better be versatile and not game script dependent. And those four guys, Jonathan Taylor, Jemir Gibbs, Briseau, and Bejohn Robinson fit the bill. So while everyone's a little worried and afraid of the running backs, I see it as an opportunity to go all in on that anchor running back. And you can certainly fill in the blanks, no problem, I think, at wide receiver due to the outstanding depth. Yeah, and you said you would take those guys, especially if you're drafting middle to end of the first round over guys like Jefferson, Amman Rob, Huka, A.J. Brown. So if you're in that back half of the first round and you can eye up, you know, Brees Hall, you know, wherever Brees Hall goes, maybe Jemir Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor, that's more realistic at the end of the first round. There's still going to be great talent coming back to you

in round two. And that could, you know, lead us into some wide receiver talk. But if you want to get your hands on a difference maker, guys who can win you your league, you might have to take one of these running backs in the first round that John's talking about, Bejan, Breast, Jemir, JT, if we want to lump Barclay in there, because again, folks, you're trying to win a fantasy league. You're not going to win with a bunch of me, like average players. I've done so many mocks, John, where I look at my team and I'm like, oh, I got good value. This is where you're supposed to take this guy, and I like him and his role. And I look at the end and I go, none of these guys are difference makers. None of these guys are going to win me a league. Like, draft

dudes who are you look at and you go, that guy can win me a win. week. This guy can blow up and be like the guy at the position. And if you look at J.T. Gibbs, like Gibbs is right on the doorstep of that. I know he's got Monty there as well, but it's a great line, really good play caller. It's all the things that we're preaching here at fantasy points. And, you know, Gibbs, you're going to see him fall, I think, in the second round in some leagues, John. So I love the call on him. Yeah. And by the way, yeah, we are the ADD brothers here today. we're bouncing all over the damn place but um in the article i did a a draft uh from the nine spot you know i did a shit ton of mocks as well and a lot of trial and error actually trying to find the

right route and i actually did have access to two of the four flawless four because i i went jemere gibbs at nine and jonathan taylor fell to me there what would that be 14 or whatever 13 i've seen it happen absolutely yeah yeah now two things number one i wouldn't plan on that and if i'm drafting at the end of round one i do think the play and it's this is normally the case is to go with a running back and a wide receiver uh if at all possible because you do like to have that alpha type to hang your hat on you know garrick wilson would be a great one like if i'm opening if i take Gibbs at one and then coming back on the hook and Jonathan Taylor's not there, but Garrett

Wilson is, I am thrilled. So I think that's the optimal route. But to my point about the depth of receiver, here's what I did. And, you know, this is all part of the draft plan. And all made possible by my top value quarterback Jordan Love and my top value tight end in terms of the tight end is being drafted as start. Jareders, Jake Ferguson. Turned Ferguson, baby.

Yeah, baby. This was all thanks to love and Ferguson, but I opened with Jamir Gibbs and Jonathan Taylor. And here's my wide outs. Debo Samuel, Devante Smith, George Pickens, Christian Kirk. Then I got Christian Watson. I think I'm good at wide receiver. I got Khalil Shakir as well. And then Brandon Cook.

So I feel like I'm going to be good at wide receiver. And I'm damn good at running back with Gibbs and 10. Taylor, I believe I'll be good at quarterback with Love and tight end with Ferguson. So that would be a damn good team. Gibbs, Taylor, Samuel, Skinny Batman, Pickens, Kirk, Love Ferguson, Watson, Tajay Spears, Khalil, Shakir. I did take Dobbins. What the hell, Brandon Cook's and my guy, Tyler Conklet.

I feel like that's a great team. I love Devante Smith, and we've talked about it here on the show. I think he's going to have a dynamite year. All reports at Eagles camp, but he's uncoverable. Here's again, let's go back to that CMC news and Brandon Ayuk. Debo Samuel got paid. Okay, they paid him a year ago. Remember why he was so dominant two years ago?

It was because he was running the football. That's why he wanted to get paid. He was basically playing two positions. So, Christian McCaffrey's a little beat up. Maybe they want to take the ball out of his hands a little bit more. Who knows? Maybe he misses a few games. You think they're just going to roll with, you know, Elijah Mitchell and Jordan Mason and Isaac Garendo back?

Hell no. You're going to see Debo in the backfield. I'm curious to see if his ADP adjusts. Once Iyuk gets out of there and who knows, maybe the time you're listening to this, he is. But the Debo pivot for folks in rounds two and three is going to be huge. Yeah. I'm way ahead of it.

It's already all in the article. It's been baked in for like five days. I've been working on the article. It's all in. If you notice in the article, all the fake teams I draft, they all have Debo. And you probably remember, I mean, the year Debo came out, I was a Debo guy. He was my number one guy over A.J. Brown. I interviewed him on the radio.

I actually predicted to him that he'd be drafted by the Niners because I knew that Kyle Shanahan had him at the senior bowl. And then I guess going into year two or maybe three, I'm sitting there at the combine, and I love Debo. I mean, and he was like, he ended up being my number one sleeper, or target. that year wide receiver i guess that was 2022 i don't even the years are running together but i'm at the combine kyle is sitting there getting ready to wait uh to go up to his podium i've asked the man 20 questions i've seen him out and about i don't get personal with the coaches but a lot of them know who i am like

they all that guy i've seen that guy you know so i cozy up to shanahan and i'm like coach am i crazy but have you just given debo like not even half of what you can do with debo he's like yeah no it's actually not crazy and then that was going into the year he did he lit it up running the rock here so i i love me some debo samuel i fingers crossed so he can stay healthy but if i yuk is god that is massive for debo i mean i could argue he might be a top 12 wide receiver yeah you're talking about 2021 when he not only, you know, had 121 targets and had 1,400 yards, but he also had 59 rushing attempts and scored eight touchdowns on the ground. So, I mean, that's pretty, that's as badass as it gets, uh, right there. All right. Let's take a quick time out.

We'll regroup here and we'll come back. We'll keep attacking the draft plan show on the other side. We'll talk a little bit more about the running backs and then we'll get into the wide receivers, tight ends, and of course the quarterbacks here with the guru on the draft plan. plan show. All right, John. We're having a lot of fun. We're talking about your draft plan for 2024. We're kind of, you know, all over the place.

But that's what happens when, you know, you've got so many great ideas. The full article is over at fantasy points.com. Also, when you're shot out. Now, just kidding. Yeah. We're shot out of a Canada, baby. But, yeah, I literally, I don't think I've eaten today. I had a Red Bull.

And I don't advocate this. I had a Red Bull at like, I don't know, seven in the morning when I was waiting to get a state inspection. And I don't think I don't think I'm. have eaten. I just kind of sat down here in my basement doing work. So yeah, eating helps. Don't just, you know, pound Red Bulls all day. I got like a cliff bar in me. That's it today. I got one sitting in front of me right here. Maybe they could sponsor the show. I'll start eating it during the breaks. So we talked a little bit about running back and you're, you know,

you're flawless for guys you want to get your hands on in the first round. And then you said you're okay waiting a little bit if you want. Looking at your top 12. guys that you're saying this these are my guys these are who i want to rock and roll with this year i want to just kind of cherry pick a guy or two yeah to talk about because you've mentioned derrick henry already and he's a guy that you can get in round two maybe you do get wide receiver you got an early pick you take a receiver in round one derrick henry somebody in this offense we know the offense is going to be based around derrick henry he's a foundational running back he needs to get a lot of touches and he's going to get, I'm going to say 20, 25 carries a game and just wear down

the competition here. Derek Henry in round two, even though he doesn't catch passes at all, I think he's going to be a really nice pick for people. Yeah. And I mean, this is saying something because I've really never been a Henry person. Um, this just, I think I'm with everyone else who, well, maybe not everyone, but most people seem to just have this feel like, oh, it's just he feels like a raven you know what I mean by the way I had to do a drive down to Florida I do not live very far at all from Derek Henry's hometown you leave Florida I believe that's how you pronounce it right there in the northern portion I was driving and I'm like oh home of Derek Henry that's pretty cool anyways I just feel

like it's going to work in general and he's going to they're going to move the ball consistently they're going to get scoring opportunity like he's going to score every week i just i just feel very good about that i know their old line has been you know restructured a little bit here but you know it's maybe a rare case where it's just you you just buy into the culture marriage there and i'm buying and obviously the ravens are always competitive so we don't worry about them falling way behind their defense is good uh they'll be fine there so yeah henry's going to get the rock he's going to deliver and i do think if i'm at the top of round one i'm going wide receiver as much it might it might pain me because i do love those four running backs i can't pass up chase lamb and tyreek especially

Tyreek and Lamb. I can't pass those dudes up. So the consolation prize would be Derek Henry. Now, to back up a moment, there are only two running backs that I quote unquote like as your anchor running backs in round two. The other would be Sequin. The third who's in that mix is Travis Eton. But what are your thoughts on ETN? I've done it a little bit. I'm not down on them. The guy was the RB3 last year. Not a horrible backup plan, let's say. If you do go wide receiver, let's say you're at three and you take Tyreek and you're banking on Derek Henry in round two. He goes right in front of you. Travis E.T.N at the very least, I presume Sequin would be gone to. That's not bad. So if you start a draft Tyreek and E.TN, that's not bad. I feel like Derek

Henry's will be a little bit more powerful and explosive, but that's not bad. Yeah. And E.E.E.E. he's got to come through a little bit more of as a receiver this year to come through. He had one receiving touchdown. He's a better receiver than that. I know people talked about when he came out of Clemson. It was kind of these little manufactured touches. And he just caught like real easy passes out of the backfield. They didn't challenge him a lot there.

But losing Calvin Ridley and now they replace Gabe Davis and they got the rookie Brian Thomas in there. I think you want to lean a little more on ETN because it's going to narrow that tree. It's ETN, it's Kirk and his ingram. I think maybe Doug is going to want to take a little bit off of Lawrence's plate. Maybe they say, let's feed ETN, and then we can back him up a little bit with Tank Biggsby. I'm okay with him in the second round. I'd rather maybe if I could get him in the third. I'd like that a lot more.

I don't know if you're going to even get him there. But, you know, it's tough because when I'm going through the second round that I'm seeing some of those guys, I often have a choice. It's between, you know, like am I going to take Devon A-chan? am I going to take Travis E.T.N. I know H.N. is a guy who, you know, it was all efficiency. Those numbers are going to be impossible to replicate John. Right. Yeah. But when I look at him, I go, this is a kid. It's just what we talked about. If he hits and he, you know, he does just 85% of what he did last year. Like he can win you a week and he can be that elite guy. Like,

to me, he's very close to Jemir Gibbs. I just wonder, can he hold up? Because he's a slight guy i remember yeah texas or texas a nm when he was coming out i'm like this kid's not big like he he's not meant to grind through the tackles but maybe in today's NFL you don't have to i generally though look there's a fine line there you don't want to overrate volume like people did last year with alexander madison not me thankfully but everyone's like oh madison he's the guy i'm sure he is but he's a jag as well um so you don't want to overrate volume but you also don't want to overrate what devon han brings to the table the home run hitting speed i do not like backing running backs who are big play dependent i've never been a sequin barclay

guy sorry i i don't think he's a very good running back honestly offensive weapon great he is he's tremendous but as a traditional runner of the football like we're going to line up and it's coming more often than not you stop it with Sequin Barclay. But then the box granite say, oh, you were wrong because they stopped 17 of 20 runs, but he did slip by for gain of 59 on one of them. You know what I mean? Like I do not like relying on big plays and you are going to be relying on big plays, most likely with Devon A. Chan, back to ETN real quick, the worst running back room

in football behind them. I mean, these guys stink. They keep on it's talk of Biggsby. I mean, he was garbage last year. Like, I'm shocked he's still in the team. Yeah. And then Deerness, hey, we, God love you, de Ernest. I mean, you'll grind out 3.9 yards of carry for a week or two or three if we need you.

But man, that's a jag. That is not a needle mover. I mean, really, really bad running back depth chart. I don't know what the hell they're doing, honestly. Like, you might want to get some, some better personnel here. but maybe they are not giving up totally on Bigsby. But if Bigsby doesn't improve dramatically, I don't know what the hell they're going to do.

Yeah, it's tough. I don't want to give away a ton of more guys here in your, the 12, which you can read about these guys in John's draft plan article at FantasyPoints.com. But there's one guy that I have to bring up because you and I are sharing a brain on him. And it's Ken Walker. So I have never liked Ken Walker. If you've heard me talk on Sirius X-M, I've never been into Ken Walker.

I just, maybe it's a blind spot and it's something I need to get over. But I mean, Ken Walker finished last year, he was 20th in fantasy points per game in PPR. But it's a new offense. It's a new scheme. And it seems from what they're saying in camp, John, like they find Ken Walker to be like this. Like, he's like their new Christian McCaffrey. Like they're going to use him every way possible. and Zach Charbonnet might just play a more complimentary role.

And if we can get him involved more in the passing game, and he can catch more than 30 balls in a year and actually score a freaking touchdown or two, like the value you're getting on Ken Walker in a division where you have to win shootouts is going to be just tremendous. Here's a team I drafted from the number one spot, and this is why Walker's on my list.

I was with you. I thought he was too much of a freelancer, bouncer, very poor vision, things like that. But I did kind of kick myself last year for not giving him more love. Yes, I was worried about Zach Charbonnet being more of a decisive downhill runner. A new Pete Carroll probably wanted that. I'm sure he did. But turned out Charbonnet and, you know, he was banged up just a rookie.

Maybe he'll look and show a lot better this year. But he was kind of jag-like, honestly. He wasn't bad. but he he was just jag like i do like walker uh as a pick uh late fourth let's say if you're let's say in this case i open with cd lamb and to my point i came back with derrick henry which i like that pairing round three i took debo samuel but then i had that long wait going all the way down the board for three and then back over uh for my fourth round round i did that round three but then i had that long wait going all the way down the board for three and then back over for my fourth round pick,

which would have been the last pick of round four. At that point, you know, I didn't really, I wasn't, I guess, feeling that the tight ends. I guess maybe McBride was gone by that point. I already had two good wide receivers, so I wasn't hurting there by any stretch. I wasn't taking my quarterback there. So while I'm not necessarily inclined to get two running backs

my first four picks it's not a bad build this year i don't think at all uh with these runningbacks being a little bit more viable and showing uh more potential i think with with some of the guys in the in the pool here i thought i think walker is a a solid rb two that you can get you know again right around 50 overall 55 that that is not a bad price to pay for someone of his pedigree let's say you know again i kicked myself last year a little bit because you know he he does move very very well he's got a lot of juice i love juice got a lot of zuzu a lot of sauce whatever you whatever the hell you want to call he definitely has that i always say teleports from one place to the other on the field he has a pretty good threat in the passing game and again charbonnet turned out to be a little bit of a jag

i think walker's price tag is down just a little bit from last year so adding it all up. I'm like, yeah, it all comes to a point where I'm like big picture finals answer. I do like Ken Walker this year. You know, and they've got a new offensive coordinator and Ryan Grubb. He's coming in from the college game. I believe he was at Washington last year. And they had a really good offense. If you want to get Ken Walker on your team, you're going to follow the guru's rankings. Because I'm looking at your custom cheat sheet right here at running back. You've got Ken Walker at running back 14. If I pull up the ADP from sites like ESPN and Sleeper, he's the running back 17. So you're ahead of the market on Ken Walker.

So again, that's what we want our listeners and our readers to do. We want our readers and listeners to get these guys and get them ahead of the consensus. Remember with ADP, that's not when you have to take somebody. That's when everybody else is taking somebody. So if we love a guy and John writes in the article, you want to go get him. You'll have a guy around ahead of ADP because you want to make sure that people go out and get a. Yeah, yeah, that's a great thing to point out. I always try to marry when a player is going off the board per ADP in the marketplace

and when I think he should be going off the board. A lot of that has to do with my positional rankings, which are all derived from projections. but let me see if I can come up with another example on Walker just to be well here you go I think this is a great example so his overall ADP is 52 so what what is that early early fifth yep that's a just a fourth pick of the fifth round yeah I have him at 38 so I'm saying early third is is okay early fourth really forth so basically that's a little bit more than a round over his ADP that would be an example of like okay there's a guy i'm saying by the ranking draft them and if you actually print out the top 200

and you kick it old school like i would do you just cross the guys off your list and then you'll be in the fifth round and you'll look up and you'll see a bunch of guys crossed off but above them you'll see mr ken walker and that's that's how i would use the the cheat sheet because I do have a good feel for for for these pricings certainly get them wrong all the time when I make 200 of them but I got to tell you the last two years I go back and I more often than not I have the the marketplace versus my ranking I marry them very well and I have these guys slotted very well like if a guy does well I'm like oh let me see oh there I was I was over the markets you know again doesn't not every time but that's a good

example of me trying to say give you a nudge like hey this guy's a good draft pick you know where we are right now and if you guys are playing on some of these kind of platforms like yahoo ESPN the ADP on there if you're drafting at a computer they're all wacky right have that cheat sheet printed out if you're paying for a fantasy point subscription which you should be if you're listening to this podcast print the damn thing out and just cross them off as you go trust me you'll have a much better team Well, John, let's move over our wide receiver plan. Again, I'm kind of going off your elite 12 players. These are 12 guys that you want to formulate, you know, your drafts around.

And I'm just kind of cherry picking guys. And again, to not give everybody away, but we talk Christian Watson a lot on this podcast. He's your top breakout candidate. And as you mentioned just a moment ago, you did a draft. And he was like your wide receiver four. You had Debo, you had Devonte, I think you had Kirk. and then you have Christian Watson. The reason roster construction matters is because you've got really solid guys you're

one and two. Boom, boom, Devonte and Debo. And we think they're going to have great ears. Kirk, if he comes through in a PPR, he's going to be fantastic. If Christian Watson hits, he jumps in, maybe he's your flex, maybe he's your wide receiver too. He's a guy now who's a top 12 wide receiver in fantasy because of his skill set, his quarterback, and the offense that he's in. and you got him as a wide receiver four. So love the call on Watson.

Anything else on the young Green Bay receiver? Well, I mean, I will say it's all, it all, it all ties together too. So why would I endorse Ken Walker as an RB2 in the fourth or fifth when I know that everybody is loading up on wide receivers? Well, part of the reason is because of people like Christian Watson. So when you have guys like that, Jameson Williams, I'm also very high on the other guys that I really like further down the board. I do like Khalil Shakir is a breakout, Josh Palmer. Like there's some really, really good picks available outside of, you know, round seven or eight, let's say, or seven. So Watson is a great pick on its own, eighth or ninth round, no matter what.

it's a great pick. It's not going to crush you if it doesn't hit. Yeah, he might be a little volatile. Put him at the back of your depth chart, your third receiver or, you know, your flex or whatever, second flex. It's not going to hurt you.

Could help you, could, you know, could crush it. He's got the pedigree. Everything is there. I know there's only one ball and all that. We've talked about how he commands the ball. But, you know, he's a good pick on his own,

but he's also part of the plan. and because we know Watson is going to be there for the taking and maybe a Jameson Williams as a backup plan, this is one of the reasons why we're going to try and balance it out a little bit more this year and maybe get a couple of running backs in the first four to five rounds. Yeah, you don't have to follow that best ball approach. And, you know, if you listen to a lot of fantasy podcasts,

I'm sure you get in and dated with all this best ball talk. And trust me, we do a great job of it at our site as well. But in that people start thinking like, oh, this is ADP, this is how home leagues and redraft are going to go when people are taking three receivers to start a draft. In a home league, John, that's not the case. People are going to be taken running backs. You're going to see those tight ends creep up a little bit. Hell, you might see a guy take a quarterback or two in the second third round of your home league. So having Christian Watson, James and Williams, down the board, you mentioned Shakir, you know, these are the guys that are going to be your flexes,

your wide receiver threes, and you're going to be winning when guys are scrambling. If you're fill other positions and it allows us to wait at quarterback and at tight end any other wide receivers you wanted to mention here that you know guys you're really planning on i know we've referenced a few so far yeah well you know as i mentioned earlier again we i know we're bouncing around but but for me there's always some sort of angle so you know let's take a look at a couple wide receivers that i like and you could even ask me the angle randomly if you scroll down to the the Hanson 50. That's where I narrowed down basically 215 players to 50.

So that's 75% removed. So 75% of the player pool, I'm like, I don't want anything to do with you. And I'm trying to be a little bit more concise, decisive, and really narrow it all down. So you ask me about a particular wide receiver. And I'll tell you what the angle is and why I think he's a good pick when he's being drafted.

Your favorite pick in the seventh round is Chris Godwin. And what is the angle behind Godwin here? Who's going to be moving into the slot? I don't want to give it away. I mean, that is the angle. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I can even like kind of call it up. But last year, Godwin, I've always been a Godwin guy on Siris XM.

He was my breakout receiver in 2019. I called him God Chris Win. And he crushed. 86 grabs for 1333 15.5 yards to catch nine 9 grabs he also got hurt of course I had him in the championship in the ACI and couldn't start him that that that game but midseason last year I'm like wow

and I was lukewarm on Godwin last year still worried about the ACL but midseason I'm like what what's going on here like he's kind of dead it's like they need to and I said it on serious X I'm like this dude needs to go in a slot. I'm sorry. I think Godwin's wife started tweeting stuff out about like you got to start getting him to ball. Yeah.

And I think it happened right around that point. He had 11 targets a week 13. Granted, awful catch rate. He only caught five of them. I don't know what the hell happened there. But then the very next week, 12 targets, 10 grabs. So the next week after that, week 16, 10 targets, six grabs. In the finale, seven targets, six grabs.

So that's what I'm looking at. We're looking at, obviously, the Cooper Cup role, essentially in this offense under the new officer coordinator, of course, who comes from that RAM coaching tree. So I am feeling really good, Liam Cohn. I am feeling very good. Now, I know Jalen McMillan, haven't checked on him in the last couple of days. He's a good dude. I interviewed him at the com. I like him.

I liked him a lot. And he's really good. And I know he's opening up some eyes. Trey Palmer's also interesting. But yeah, I really like Godwin this year because he's going to get those slot snaps, which is everything. He's a monster in the slot. Outside of that, he's kind of just a guy.

Maybe he'll be a little bit better another year removed from the ACL. But that is the angle. He's a little cheaper. And I think his situation overall is a little better, even though they are breaking in a new offense. Liam Cohen, again, coming from the McVeigh-Tree, Cooper Cup, Godwin, the comparable players, boom, that's the angle. And I want to just remind everybody, nobody loves slot more than the guys at Fantasy Points, call back to the radio show. Graham Barfield had a great tweet.

You know Graham from his wonderful work at Fantasy Points. Four straight seasons as a top 20 wide receiver was Chris Godwin in points per game, when a full-time slot receiver. Again, he's back this year. You'll look at some of the seasons that he'd. dominated. He was wide receiver 9 in 2021. He played in the slot 70% of the time. He was wide receiver 2 in 2019, 55% of the time. There's a correlation here. It's a cause and effect. When he goes to the slot, hey, guess what? He does well. I love the call on Jalen McMillan,

too. All right. Let me hit you. Dynasty prospect. Very much, very much too. Because who knows how long Evans hangs around. He's always been healthy, but you never know what could happen. If one of those two goes down. Guru sniff test in terms of chopping it up with him. I goofed around with him. I was like cursing around with him. He was laughing. I'm like, I like this guy.

I definitely liked him. All right. We're looking at your top 50 players. You narrowed down the top 200 on your cheat sheet. You go the hell with that. Here's the 50 you need to focus on. Let me see if I get another angle of a guy off of you here. Yeah.

Let me find a good one. Oh, I love this one. Because it's going to make people stop in their car and go, what the hell did you just say? Rishi Rice. of the Kansas city chiefs well look the angle there is the ADP is suppressed because people are waiting for a pending suspension but it does seem and i haven't checked on the last day or two but it does see like the seem like the legal process may take a minute here so this might be something

that we're not getting addressed unless something else has come out um i actually did like rashi rice as a prospect quite a bit He did, though, completely usurped my boy, Sky Moore. I thought Sky Moore would get that slot job. Actually, Rishi Rice's season was almost exactly in line with what I had for Skymore. Granted, that was never going to happen, apparently, because Sky is just not any good. He lost his confidence. But you do like that inside stuff.

That was a, I thought that they would go with Sky there to give him a good opportunity. to excel and they didn't. Rishi got the shot and did very well finding those little soft spots and sitting down underneath from Holmes. So, you know, look, he's going to get all kinds of play here. Yeah. And maybe a little less attention on him too as Hollywood Brown and Xavier worthy are keeping those two deep safeties back there. So that's a really good environment for Rishi. But really, the angle is suppress price based on the off field, but we might not get the impact of the off field this year. Yeah, I think so.

My buddy Drew Davenport, we had him on an auction show on the YouTube channel, which is doing incredibly well. If you're an auction drafter, go watch that on our Fantasy Points channel, the great Drew Davenport. He's also a defense attorney and does a lot of legal work for the fantasy community. He doesn't think this goes down in 2025 until 2025. So if it does get pushed till then, again, suppressed value. Now you've got one of the apples of,

him a home's eye and you know he's going to be running wild underneath it's crazy to think john a year ago we were talking about there's no receivers in kansas city now it's like shit there's too many receivers in kansas city now we we got hollywood brown who i love i'm drafting him everywhere we got zavier worthy we still got racy rice don't forget about kelsey if skymour pops off this year i mean will you break things will you just drink will you just call it as a year too early you know no no I wrote an article. At some point, I'm going to publish it. But at the end of the day, there was plenty to like about Skymore.

Sure. I don't think the mistake was egregious, honestly, because I don't think they used him optimally. So I guess the mistake is he ran fairly well. he was a little stiff laterally and the real question was you know is he a guy he can get open against man coverage in the NFL i thought that he would simply because he'd be lining up inside but the chiefs obviously disagree with my assessment and they didn't play him much inside and he struggled so it might not even be a conversation if they used to them the way I thought they would use them.

But yeah, I guess the end of the day is if you have separation anxiety, you know, it's probably you're on the right track. But here's the thing. I have separation anxiety with Rishi Rice, you know, but he got that slot job and that was it, you know. So, you know, obviously Sky Moore was a horrible, horrible position. The other thing with him, by the way, was I really do hate to say this as an old traditionalist.

But in this day and age, if you're a pretty high pick and there's whispers that you might stink after one year, you probably stink. You really do. I hate to say it, but you probably do. It's a lesson learned where I say that with folks all the time in Dynasty. When they're like, oh, because it doesn't happen, sure, where it's a wide receiver. It's like year two, year three. They're like, this guy, he'll break out and blah, blah, blah. They're like, nah, you'd see it day one.

Like, these guys are so elite. like if they don't break out in the first year like i'm not in i'm not buying it well let's take a quick time out here john when we come back we can talk a little quarterback we can talk a little tight end and all kinds of fun stuff here it's the draft plan show fantasy points podcast all right rocking and rolling here brian drake the guru john hanson talking draft plan uh hope you guys are really digging this get over to fantasy points dot com use code score more save yourself 10% on a yearly All right, let's talk a little quarterback. And we tried to do it about 45 minutes ago, but you and I, you know, we're having fun here, feeling each other out.

We're bouncing around talking all kinds of dudes. And that's fine, people that are loving it. So Jordan Love, you listed 50 guys here that you want to base your drafts around and make sure that you get. The first name on the list is Jordan Freaking Love. So, you know, it looks like what, you can get him, I don't know, seventh, eighth round in a draft. Yeah. That's an easy place to start at quarterback. You don't got to reach. You don't got to spend exorminate draft capital. It's awesome. Yeah. And by the way, he does fit the criteria. And I did say this last year. My favorite type of quarterback is a guy who wins from the pocket and can crush you with his arm and throw 30 plus, but also who runs a little and keeps that in his back pocket. And I actually wrote and did a video on Love. last summer where I'm like yeah I mean I think we'll get 50 attempts right around there 250 yards right around then and he was almost dead on uh exactly that he got uh see here was it

yeah he actually got 50 attempts for 247 I'm pretty sure I said 50 for 250 uh he also got four rushing touchdowns I think I only had two or three maybe we can't count on four but I look that's my that's my benchmark number. Give me, can you give me 50 attempts? Because if you do and you're at, you know, four plus yards a pop,

because if you're an athlete and you're running at 50, you better be an athlete if you're running at 50 plus times at quarterback. And if you are, then you should get four yards of carry. And he got five yards of carry.

And you get a couple sneaked in there. And all of a sudden, now we're augmenting the value pretty nicely. So that's my favorite quarterback. A guy I can rely on in the pocket. But, you know, it's hard to have a quarterback throw three touchdowns every single damn week. Sure. You know, every once in a while, you need a little bit of luck.

And it's nice to know that a guy like Jordan Love can score you four touchdowns on the ground like he did last year. Joe Burrow has been, was the previous example. You know, before I gravitated toward love, I was a Burrow guy. And that, well, he's been heard a little bit, but, you know, two years ago, it worked out very, very well. I guess that would be 2022. He was my guy. He was my number one guy and it was good. So that's the prototype.

You know, DAC has got a little bit of that. And the reason I like these guys is because, look, you're putting yourself in harm's way 100 plus times. You're probably going to get hurt unless you're Josh Allen, apparently, uh, Jalen. Hertz has had his problems so is Lamar obviously Richardson Tyler Murray's had problems you know these guys have problems you know every once in a while guy has a healthy year and he crushes it again Josh Allen does it every year but I just think that these guys are a little safer to back and a guy like love because he's not that sexy cheat code guy gets drafted 30 picks after Anthony

Richardson and Jordan Love has shown a ton more than Anthony Richardson but AR's going 20 picks earlier. So yeah, AR might have a little bit more upside, but he also has a lot more risk, and he's also more expensive. I'll be fine with Jordan Love. I don't need my guy to go off every single week because they're going to have good players around him.

Jordan Love can hold down the fort. Jordan Love was a QB1 last year from literally day one. We just didn't know it as the season progressed. But Jordan Love took over the reins week one of 2023. First game as a starter, and he threw for 345 yards and three touchdowns. The next week, he threw three more tutties. You know, he did hit that little bit of a rough patch there midseason. Maybe some of that was matchup based.

I know it was a little worrisome. But he fought through it and found himself. And obviously, the rest was history from week 10 on. He was absolutely fire on fire, lights out, fantasy juggernaut. And I see no reason why that won't continue with a year of seasoning under his bell. And also another schedule that looks phenomenal. I want to look at Anthony Richardson a little bit more in some of his ADP because nobody talks about Anthony Richard like the fantasy community. I mean, he is like the bell of the ball right now.

Everyone wants Anthony Richardson on their team. Hey, and I get it. I want Anthony Richardson on some of them. If I'm feeling frisky, I'll do it. He's on my list, too. I'm very selective, but AR is on my list. I'm looking at his ADP and players going around him. So let's say, you know, what I'm looking at right here,

around pick 52 or so, so fifth round pick. So let's say, you know, late 4th, early 5th, I'm going to rattle some names off here. And again, it depends on how you build your team. Would you rather have Anthony Richardson or these guys going right around him? Let's see, George Pickens. Well, the real question is, do I want George Pickens and Jordan Love? There you go.

Or do I want Anthony Richardson and trying to think of a good example? Jaden Reed. I'm looking at guys around his ADP. Jordan loves ADP. Tank Dell, Zay Flowers, someone like that. That's it. So I like George Pickens a lot this year. if I'm in round five and let's say I have already one one running back I've got my anchor let's say

open with be jean and then I I'm in round five and I'm between pickins and Richardson and we'll see by by the way about I you going the Steelers if I you goes to Steelers officially that kills Pickens yeah but right now before the trade is official as we record this I do love Pickens as a three because I think it could pop very well. So I want Pickens knowing I can get love later as opposed to taking AR, taking on that injury risk, taking on that price hike, if you will. And now my receiver is a guy that I don't feel has a potential of George Pickens. There you go.

So that's really what I wanted to get to of that exercise of if you took Richardson there, like what is the opportunity cost? What are you missing out on? I'll say this. If I draft anything to Richardson later on. the draft. I love pairing him with Jaden Daniels just because why the hell not? Let's get, let's get crazy here. You want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. As George Costanza famously said, because I think Daniels could have a really fun year as well. I did draft AR in one of these teams,

actually. I'm trying to find it here. I think I did go there. It wasn't bad. You know, here it is from the 12 spot, actually. And, um, I think the reason I did it was because here's the open. As I said earlier in the podcast, if I am at 12, I probably do want to balance it out unless I get a crack at Jonathan Taylor and, you know, Jimmy or Gibbs, which I doubt. But in this one, they were both gone by the time I picked at 12. So I went Garrett Wilson, came back, Sequin Barkley. Then I, again, I've got kind of my anchor running back.

I hit DJ Moore and Pittman. So it's like now I'm good at receiver. I didn't love any of the running backs in round five. Love, love the tight end situation. So I was kind of stuck. So at that point, that's when I went with Anthony Richardson. It could happen to where he makes sense for me in the fifth round. But again, my preferred route would be love two or three rounds later.

And if you're sitting there looking at your team five rounds in and you think you've got no juice and you're kind of like, man, I need an image. impact player here. Yeah. Because I need somebody to make up for the fact that I got a bunch of boring scrubs here. So that's Richardson makes a ton of sense. Yeah. So that's the quarterback play.

If you want any more of John's late plays, just go read the article. Again, I'm not going to spoon feed it to you guys here. Let's talk tight end. And obviously everyone knows the love of, uh, you know, our boy, Conklin. We don't have to talk too much about him. I know you drafted him on a bunch of your teams, but the number one, guy that you said, I want to go base my plan around was Trey McBride. And it wasn't, you know, your boy, Mandrews, it wasn't Kelsey, it wasn't LaPorta. It was, I want to go get the second year

tight end out of Arizona because, again, we talk about small route trees out there, you know, what's the better way to say that, receiving trees, receiving. Target tree. Target tree. Thank you. It doesn't get much smaller than Arizona right now. It's not even a tree. It's like a stick with two prongs you know so talk to me a little bit about tray mcbride now i do like tray mcbride but he is a little bit like anthony richardson in that he's getting pricier yeah and so he's a little bit of a luxury uh selection but you know i'm trying to stay focused to where i've been all off season on tray mcbride you know i don't know if you've listened to me you know if you've heard me but before he started blowing up this year like the

previous year and a half i did nothing but praise tray mcbride i'm like this guy's awesome he's going to be really good he's a great guy he's a great kid i watched him uh practice for a week in mobile and he won every rep that's all i'm like this is easy this scouting tray mcbride's good boom i mean like so i i i do love tray mcbride but i do think it's a little bit of a a luxury pick unless you can get them in the fifth the it's similar to what we just did with the exercise with anthony richards so you know let's let's take a look at when tray mcbride's going off the board and and see what we see there right because you know i do have them high oh here you go so here's tray mcbride so he's going off the board you know 40 46 or so and some guys in that area i mean it depending

the adp's all over place a guy like malik neighbors i think i got to take maliq neighbors over Trey McBride, even with the bad quarterback. I mean, the upside there is just massive. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, I would, I'm not into neighbors. I hear you. I'm trying in my old age to not fall for every single like super sexy fantasy pick. You know what I mean? Because that's been my downfall, being a little too griffic. So I'm trying to be a little more judicious i guess my point with mcbride is it's not really him i just i my actual number one guy is ferguson turd ferguson yeah because i i just think again i really like jake ferguson this year i think he'll have a chance to be like a top seven guy uh but he's being drafted what is like the

tenth something like that i really like what i saw from him is another guy that i talk with at the combine very smart guy you know he was awesome and dack needs his blankie in the middle of the field he really does and they're light at receiver so i think my best chance to form the best starting the lineup is to hold off and get ferguson that said similar to love richardson i am in on mcbride as well if especially i can get him in the fifth then that's almost a slam dump because let's say i open with let's say open with Bijan or Breece and then I just go boom boom boom and I take three receivers in a row i do like debo skinny batman devante smith and and george pickens let's say at that point now i'm ready to pivot over because i've got my anchor running back i have a three summit wide

receiver i'm good now i kind of want to form the best possible starting lineup so i will in fact look at quarterback or tight end and that if it's quarterback it's Richardson and if it's tight end it's trade McBride so I do like them I would have to say in a competitive league you might be better off waiting and going with Ferguson than then McBride but if you can get them in the fifth I sign off on that I actually have them higher than La Porta on my board and that's because of volume I don't know if Laporta can replicate the the touchdown love that he got last year, eight and a half percent touchdown rate. But yeah, that's where I'm at, you know, I always have guys that I like going leading up

until the devalue pick, you know what I mean? I don't want to just like, oh, it's all do or die. It's Ferguson or bust. You know, when I bake in a little flexibility, I'm like, oh, you know what? Love Ferguson, you know, eighth or ninth pick as a great ROI optimal construction or whatever. but if I'm feeling really good in round five at Shane McBride's here, I'm going. I'll go, Shane McBride all day long. Well, let's mention a little bit more about our guy, Tyler Conklin.

If you're waiting, I know we're kind of beating people over the head with Tyler Conklin this year, but it's for good reason. He's playing with Aaron Rogers. He's going to be on an offense that people are going to try to take away Garrett Wilson. Who knows what we get from Big Mike Williams. You're going to get nothing from Lazard, forget about him. So Tyler Conklin, you know, for a long period of time, forget Breece Hall coming out of the backfield,

could be the second target as a receiver for the New York Jets. Now you just look at that value, John. I mean, you've got him listed at tight end 11. I mean, he's getting drafted as like tight end 19. So, I mean, you can get him whenever you want in a draft and you just slide him right in your freaking lineup, baby.

People are going to be like, how come this guy's not drafting a tight end? You know we have to start one in our league? And you're just like, nah, I'm good. I'm good. Just watch this. And then like the, you know, 12, round you go up and you slap the name of Tyler Conklin on the board. Oh, I absolutely love it. I am God so confident because I'm so confident to take because it really is can't miss when you consider the the price tag, which is free. But you're right. There's no doubt about it. Conklin is feeling it. Aaron Rogers likes them. There's definitely some chemistry there. Conklin

has been talking about and they're clicking. They've been clicking. Yeah, Breesall. is going to be a guy that is going to command a lot of attention and of course garrid wilson they're going to try and cover garrid wilson with double coverage safety top over the help all kinds of ways he's going to need another outlet guy and and there's no one else on the roster right now especially with corally hurt that that stands out it's tyler conklin all day long just just take them a lot of people don't like taking two tight ends i do uh because i think it gives you a chance to find a sleeper like let's say go with mcbride and then last pick of your draft you take conklin i would not be shocked at all if in a month into the season you're like hey anybody want this

tray mcbride guy because i'm all with conklin baby because he's getting five catches every single week especially those of you who play in deeper leagues if you're in you know 14 16 team leagues having a second tight end a viable second titan is is huge because the waiver wire will be barren in those situations. So deep league guys, you know, you should definitely know the name of Tyler Conklin. Does it matter, John, before we, you know, we wrap things up here, eight, 10, 12 team leagues. Do you draft any differently depending on the league size?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you certainly do. Obviously, in an eight team league, I place a higher priority on give me a stud. I don't care what position. So I'll take a tight-hand. earlier. I'll take a quarterback earlier. 10 or 12. I mean, I do think you need to understand

in a 10-teamer, I'm going to be a little bit more inclined to go running back. I'd like to balance it out, get two running backs and two wide receivers in the first four rounds. This way you're good. And then if you draft well, you'll be fine at wide receiver because you're going to have one or two high-end guys. So that's it. I mean, that's pretty much it. Fourteen teamer. I do like those. Because those Josh Palmer, Khalil Shakir, Sleeper picks means a lot more in those type of leagues. You don't want to get pinched at tight end in a 14-teamor or quarterback, ironically. So in a 10- or 12-teamer, those are two positions I'm looking to wait on and take advantage of the quality depth. Yet in a 14-teamor, I am a little worried about getting left out in the dark, ironically, at quarterback and tight-end.

So maybe not both positions, but I do tend to find myself drafting quarterbacks a little earlier in a 14 teamer because if you're hosed a quarterback in a 14 teamer, let's say another owner or two or three is hoarding two starters. You could be screwed. So I don't want to be screwed. So I make sure I'm good in a deeper like a 14 teamer. So just to recap everybody, we want you to go to FantasyPoint.com. We want you to read this masterpiece that John puts out every single year. He gives you the plan by position.

He gives you his quarterback plan, running back, receiver, tight end, talks about players he loves in that group. He also has his Hanson 50, the 50 players. Listen, you get every cheat sheet in the world. Just put these 50 names on the list. If you can build your roster off these guys, you're going to kick ass. And then also at the end, his favorite rounds by pick. You can make note of that.

And he puts a draft plan in action, John. I love when you do this because there's so many folks out there. And you'll see it on YouTube. John does a lot of this over at YouTube.com slash fantasy points. Wait, I got the first pick. Who should I draft? How should my team look? And you put the draft plan into action from the number one spot, from the three spot,

from the five, seven, nine, you go all the way down and you give people a look at, if you do it like I'm telling you, here's how your team would look. For me, if I'm a guy who's, you know, hey, we all got lives out there. You got wife, you got kids, you got jobs. You can't spend endless hours a day, research. for fantasy football that's why you read this so now when you go to your draft you go oh you know i'm gonna look around these rounds this is where this guy should be john said to take them bang bang boom get ready to cash some checks and hoist some trophies look i'm i'm this all i'm doing so

i've been i've been eyeball on the damn board for months now uh been you know doing his 30 years uh feel like i have a good handle on it last year wasn't as good of a year as the year before so I'm due. We got that going for us. But I would always argue that they're good picks. They're not all going to hit, but they're good picks. There's thought that goes behind every one of them. I really tried to narrow it down. I mean, there's a number of names that I kind of like that I could have threw out there and maybe give myself a better chance to have more guys right. But I'm like, you know what? No, I'm going to up the criteria and maybe that will be what makes things even more accurate. So I'm feeling a good year. And as always, we just let the chips fall where they may because we don't have access to the results. As long as we feel good about the positions that we have and are going to really kick ourselves too hard after the results are in. I'm good. So I feel like it's a great list. Always feel this way, honestly.

But in particular this year, I'm a little bit more honed in on it. Not doing the radio, not as distracted. I'm literally just trying to make the best picks for summer drafts because I am a Cesar. long guy this is my deal this is my time to shine a little bit yeah i'm doing the radio now so now i'm i'm you know running everywhere doing 58 jobs at once but this was a lot of fun uh i always love reading the draft plan article i've got it up on my screen right now i'm sure i'll reread it two or three times before my big home league draft on labor day weekend uh if you have any questions don't feel like you can't talk to us i'm at drake fantasy on twitter he's at fantasy underscore guru you want to get even

to us, hop in that discord over at FantasyPoint.com. Our subscriber discourse is a great place to come hang out, ask questions about, shit, you can ask questions about everything. We got every topic under the sun under there. We got a lot of guys who are in the chat answering your questions. It's a really fun, really fun community. So, John, we've said a lot. We haven't said it all because we've got to leave something to the imagination here.

But I'm excited for this season to kick off, man. I think we've got people set in the right direction. I think the podcast kind of went all over the map. But if you take in the entirety of it, I mean, you get it. You get the vibe. You're not going to get every single pick, every single player, every one, all the 50. That's, you know, on the website and all that. But I think we I think we laid it out pretty well.

It was all over the place. But in totality, the meat is in there. The meat and the potatoes. It's in the pot here that we just did. It is. Hey, you know, Kaplan and Hansen did shows together for 25 years or 20 years, right? Me and John been doing them together for about six weeks. So give us a second here.

We're having a lot of fun, you know, and this is a great show. I'm so happy to be a part of it. And I'm so happy to say we've reached the end of the line, folks. So enjoy. Let us know how these drafts come out. I want to tweet at me with these draft boards. Let us know you got a bunch of the guys in the Hanson 50 there. So for John, I'm Brian.

We'll see you next time on the Fantasy Points podcast. I'm a good.