Fantasy Football Daily - Fantasy Points Podcast | Week 1 Review + Waiver Wire Talk

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:25 We'd love to talk, business. Hey, what's up? It's John Hanson. Week number one is in the books. We're almost excluding the Monday night football affair. And buckle up because Brian Drake and I spend 80 minutes breaking down the week that was. We try and offer up plenty of thoughts on the buzz kills, stuff we got wrong. We talk a little waiver wire as well. And I make some bold, big picture overreaction statements that I am kidding, not kidding. So stay tuned. Thank you for liking. subscribing and as always, you're welcome. All across the fantasy universe, welcome to the week one recap edition of the Fantasy Points podcast. I'm Brian Drake at Drake Fantasy on Twitter, X, whatever it is, joined by the guru, John Hansen at Fantasy underscore Guru. John, it's week one. We need to make sweeping over reactions. Everything we saw is exactly what we thought for the months leading up to the season and everything will play out exactly
Starting point is 00:01:42 as we thought, right? That's how week one works, right, my friend? Yeah, I know you're mocking that a little bit and I'm with you, but I know you're also kind of kidding, not kidding, because we're just talking off the air where I don't want to be the overreaction guy. I really, truly do try not to be a hot take guy. Maybe I have some takes that are considered hot. They're me. They're just takes. But, you know, my big thing, too, when I look at week one, and again, I'm sure it's overreactionary, but you see, really bad performances and you're like you work for eight months for this yeah you know what I mean like you knew you were playing this team for four months and for that and you know Bryce young you know like do we want to overreact based on one game of course not but on the other hand it's like wow
Starting point is 00:02:35 that's a little worrisome that it looks so bad not just him too the old line from all what I saw was terrible. But yeah, we got plenty of takes here. I focus on the stuff I got wrong, which we'll focus on here, basically. What do we get wrong? We'll do a little back patting because we have to to say same. But, you know, really it's like what are the mistakes, at least for me that I made, and how do we kind of regroup after week one? Yeah, we'll go game by game. We can talk a little bit about some of the injuries that we had happened in week one. If somebody pops up on the waiver why are we think you guys should go out and add. We'll mention them as well. It's kind of your first word here on a Monday morning. And just to piggyback on that, you know, as John and I record this,
Starting point is 00:03:20 fantasy points data, we have folks who track every single game. They're charting every place. So like that data isn't even available to us yet. So we're kind of going off. We've got some rudimentary, you know, snap count numbers and things like that, passing share numbers. Like thanks to my guy, Dwayne McFarland, Dave Richard and Nathan Yonke, if you hear me reference any of those numbers, those are some of the guys that I'm pulling that data from. So, well, John, let's get things started here. Let's pull up a fun game here. The Artie Smith Bowl, Artie Smith rolls into Atlanta and leaves double middle fingers in
Starting point is 00:03:56 the air as his Pittsburgh Steelers. Their defense really carries them to an 1810 victory over the Falcons. And, well, let's start with the Falcons. So this was not pretty, not pretty for Kirkie Cousins coming back. He's, you know, he's pretty stationary back there. The offensive line didn't look good at all. If we could give the nod to anything, hey, you know, Bijan's getting the touches. He had 68 carries.
Starting point is 00:04:24 You know, he's also, he got five targets for 43 yards. So the Bejohn usage is good. So I think even if he doesn't get in the end zone, we're cool with Bejohn. I think, though, if we look at like a Drake London, two for 15 on three targets, like, buddy, you were supposed to be this guy who's going to break out now in this new offense and you look like dog shit. And, you know, Kyle Pitts gets a cheapy touchdown, but he only goes three for 26. Right. I think there's some concerns here with Atlanta. You know, I did write if you read good vibes, bad vibes for those on the website that, you know, I was very worried about, maybe not very, but I was definitely worried about a slow start because Kirkie hadn't played no real game.
Starting point is 00:05:03 yet he is familiar with the offense but obviously it's a whole new deal he's on a new team it's a new offense for all these other guys the matchup wasn't very good i didn't like drake london so i'm not i'm not panicking you know i think the one thing you always look at here is time of possession uh you know steelers had the ball 35 minutes compared to 24 that's a pretty big difference kirk only through 26 times he did have a strip sack there i thought t j watt got off at the exact same time as the snap and had a strip sack but that that one didn't count uh i did like darnall mooney as a sleeper but freaking ray ray mccloud gets gets these ancillary production that i was seeing because i didn't like london and i did i did like pits he scored so we'll take that as a win but
Starting point is 00:05:55 you know mooney was a loss big time he continues to drive me nuts you know he catches an early ball for 15 i'm like all right here we go and that's it literally that's it. But again, similar to his last team, like, they didn't throw the ball, 26 attempts. So worrisome, yeah, but I wasn't expecting a big game from Jake London or Kirk Cousins. And Bejohn, as you mentioned, did get the ball. So I think you're looking okay with Bejohn because Al Jir was a non-factor. Yeah, for Pittsburgh, you know, we were wondering how are they going to split up the carries here. Naji Harris took 58% of them. Jalen Warren did get some work on third down, but only, you know, 29% of the snaps there.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Quarter of Patterson even getting out there. You know it's an artist with offensive CPATs getting some work for the Steelers. But this is Justin Fields, running the offense here. I just, if there's one takeaway from this Pittsburgh team, it's, well, they're going to throw to ball a ton to your guy, George Pickens, and go pick up Chris Boswell because this, he's going to kick 11 field goals every game because this offense cannot score. Yeah, Chris Boswell, I've always been a fan of him. By the way, I did like the Steeler defense this year.
Starting point is 00:07:09 They came through with a nice day. I mean, they probably won't go off because they don't seem to, they always seem to get like tackled at like the seven on like what could be a pick six, which happened today. But they're looking pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I was actually a little worried about pickings with fields. But, you know, I stuck with pickings this summer because I'm like, he's the guy and at this point i'm wondering now and you know i didn't see every snap and every game
Starting point is 00:07:39 uh is feels simply just a better option than russ wilson i mean because they're they're at this point pretty close neither one of them knows what the hell they're looking at out there you might as go with the guy 10 years younger yeah just in fields you know on ESPN scoring got you just under 12 points. He ran for 57 yards, you know, didn't throw any touchdown passes. Really, you look at like Fields and then we'll talk about Jaden Daniels later. It's the same guy. You know, you're just praying. You get something done with your legs. And then, you know, if you get anything through the air, it's a total bonus. But, you know, that's going forward with these guys, you know, any worries about pick-ins, any worries about nausea or, you know, it's all kind of, you just, if you got to
Starting point is 00:08:25 You got to roll him out there. Yeah, I mean, Naji got 21 touches. He didn't go off, but Arthur Smith, you know, and he looked good. He had a couple of real nice, powerful runs. That 20-yarder was impressive. So I think you're feeling all right about that. Jalen Warren would be a concern. He was banged up coming into this game.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And I don't know how you start him this week with any confidence. Frymeath was a decent sign, but, I mean, a surprising effort netted a 6.7 points. So I wouldn't be doing back. lips. But yeah, as expected, literally no one else at wide receiver is worth a damn. So it's all, it's all pickings. Right now, Pickens, Najee, and the Fields gets to nod. You can use them as a second quarterback. Let's move it on over to Buffalo. So in Orchard Park, the bills were down 17 to 3. The bills no-showed the first half of this game. And I'm watching it with my son here, John, and we're just like, holy smoke, the bills are going to get run out of town. This looked like the Cardinals
Starting point is 00:09:24 team that went into Philadelphia last year. Dink and dunked their way to a victory over the Eagles. And that's exactly how they looked in the first half of this game. James Connor was toting the rock all over a place. He finished 16 carries, 50 yards, and a touchdown also had three
Starting point is 00:09:39 receptions. So you got to like that. If you're a James Connor owner, you got him late in a league. James Connor, I think, is an every week starter, RB2. You're happy about it. Kyler ran around for 57 yards. They're only through for a buck 62. You know, we didn't get much out of your guy, McBride, five for 30.
Starting point is 00:09:57 That's a little concerning. Doge, six for 47. So let's start with the Cardinals here. You know, they're not a great team. You're going to play in a bunch of shootouts here, but I think if you can get 28 points from them every single week, you're excited about that. But the biggest story, we didn't even mention it yet,
Starting point is 00:10:15 one for four from Marvin Harrison, Jr. Kyler missed him on what would have been essentially a game-winning touchdown at the end because he's three feet tall. That's disappointing. Marvin Harris, how do you get three targets? You know, again, this would be one of those like obviously we've seen Connery play. We've seen them play at a high level. And this would be one of those like, I don't want to say something profound here based on one game because it's kind of dumb.
Starting point is 00:10:39 But maybe it's those white uniforms. I mean, he looked like a pee-wee league football player out there. Like he looked tiny. He looked like that jersey was extra small. That was a kid's medium. I mean, it looked like Cam Newton's mini-me or something. Like, I mean, he just, he's too small to truly count on as a passer. So yeah, I mean, this is a problem.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I mean, not that we didn't know that he was too small, but man, it's just some games, it's, it's more evident than others, let's say. And I, that's kind of what I thought in this one, very disappointed that, well, I mean, McBride did lead the damn team and targets with nine. And he led no one had more balls thrown to him in his game than McBride. But he didn't really feel like an option, like a consistent. It just seemed random. Like the offense is random because of Kyler because he's too small.
Starting point is 00:11:38 He can't see over the line. So then he bales prematurely. Then the plays breakdown. So yeah, it's much of the same. I wasn't really into Kyler, even though I was okay with him. but I'm already worried that Marvin Harrison is not going to have this huge upside because this guy is going to be week to week, you know, throwing the football. 162 is not great.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I mean, that's not great. No, and, you know, if you're starting Kyler, you want him to get in on the ground like Josh Allen did twice. Josh Allen, number one QB on the week as of the time we're recording this. He put four touchdowns on the board. And the guy was, he basically played half a game because the bill, like I said no show the first half 18 to 23, 23, 23 through the air for Josh Allen. Let me see here.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I got a couple of nice stats on the bills here. Dalton Kincaid, as my buddy Duane said, Dalton Kincaid bombed in the box score today, but 88% of the snaps ran on 83% of the routes there, but only 9% of the target. So we're not getting a ton out of Kincaid. Trust me, I know I started him in my big league. You saw Dawson Knox playing a little too much for my liking out there. this to me John with these bills and you got keon Coleman running 90% of the routes out there and saw 22% of the targets but they're spreading it around a lot i'm seeing mac hollins catching balls Shakir there's too many guys i'm worried about that yeah yeah i mean that this is a theme uh that we're going to complain about for a lot of teams and it was very evident with these guys i mean look we expected kean coleman to be a factor we expected our guy killil Shakir to be a factor and i mean you got to throw it on the ball a little bit more to calil shekir i mean all he does is catch it and make place i mean jesus guys
Starting point is 00:13:25 joe brady you know trying trying to be all fancy oh got to get mac hollins let's throw him off let's go mvs you know um you got curtis samuel there as well you got a couple of tight end so yeah uh a little worrisome uh i kept saying like 70 balls for secure my actual projection wasn't even that high because you know i knew this might happen but at least he's scored caught all three targets, key third down guy. I mean, we're okay with Shakir for sure.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Coleman looks, looks okay. James Cook, look, he's going to get the ball. No doubt about it. Ray Davis looked good on a couple of snaps.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yes, he did. Not all bad. Stash Ray Davis. If he's available on your waiver wire and he got room, Ray Davis looked really good. You know, they only got him the ball,
Starting point is 00:14:12 what, five, six times in this game? But when they did. 14-yard grab was real nice. That looked really nice. But the problem. is look at cook guy had 19 carries for 71 yards no touchdowns because Josh Allen runs to win himself that's always gonna cap Cook's upside is Josh
Starting point is 00:14:29 Allen just is what it is at the very least I don't know the snaps but sure seem like Ray Davis out snapped Ty Johnson by a good margin which is a great sign yeah I'm trying to scroll through let's see well Ty Johnson 22% of the snaps and Ray Davis me 10 oh really I John six to nine snaps on third down the bills, by the way, today terrible on third down, three of nine. That's not going to get it done. Yeah, I mean, I didn't really notice Ty Johnson. It's difficult watching all the games at once here.
Starting point is 00:14:58 But, you know, Ray Davis was a factor, though, I think. And, you know, it wasn't like it was a blowout. So it was somewhat promising. He's clearly the guy you want if James Cook goes down. There's absolutely no doubt. All right. Chicago opens up things with Caleb Williams, his first start. And Caleb William gets the win.
Starting point is 00:15:18 the Heisman trophy winner and number one overall pick, except Caleb Williams played like absolute garbage, 14 of 29 for 93 yards. This game was 1,000% won by the Bears defense and special teams who saved their ass in the second half. And you, Guru, remember, were we talking to Ms. or Kaplan? And I came on and I said, I go, the draft the Bears defense. Yeah, yeah, no, I agree with you. They are, they're unbelievable Bears defense. If they're on, your wire, you know, go out and get them. But look at this, some of the numbers for the bears. Two of 13 on third down. They only had 148 total net yards of offense. Swift ran for 30 yards. Keenan Allen left the game, a little banged up. But boy, he had like a thousand targets
Starting point is 00:16:06 before he left. He got 11 targets on the day. Caught four for 29. So seeing what we saw from this banged up offensive line for the bears, I mean, that's, they won and everyone will be excited. hey the Bears are 1-0 they got a quarterback but Caleb was awful John yeah yeah I mean it did not look good I mean this was Shane Waldron's first game uh but it it just it just looked like Caleb was out of sync completely uh was struggling a little bit with the speed of the game kind of little deer in the headlights you know at least uh DJ Moore gets some activity I mean there's not a lot of positives to take out of this uh rohan was inactive surprisingly at Swift didn't do crap.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I mean, Roma Dunesay. I mean, I don't know how many times I said, like, what are we doing here taking Roma Dunesay in the sixth round? It makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Cole, commit, obviously you, you can't use him until now he has to do something. So really, you're just parking, you're parking all these guys,
Starting point is 00:17:11 other than probably DJ Moore, on your bench after this. Some of these guys were, borderline guys anyway. You know, none of these were like high draft picks other than more. And maybe Allen. So those are the guys that you might continue to use in week two. Otherwise, I wouldn't use, I mean, maybe Swift if I needed them, but I'd like to not use
Starting point is 00:17:33 Swift, obviously Williams. And definitely at Dunse and commit. Yeah. Keep an eye on Keenan Allen and he limped off. You know, and later on in the game, we'll see how he is. I mean, that's a guy who's always, always banged up. But I mean, Jesus Christ, he had a 44% target share when he left the game for the Bears. Let's go flip it over on the other side of that game to Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And, you know, there was a lot of talk. Hey, is it Pollard? Is it Taj Spears? Well, they showed us today. It's Tony Pollard. 16 for 82 and a touchdown on the ground. Also grabbed three balls for 12. So, hey, if you got Pollard, I mean, you ride him until the wheels fall off because they're showing you right now.
Starting point is 00:18:19 He's the guy. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. Our guy, Adam Kaplan did allude to that last week in those podcasts that we did with them. And so much so that or the hype on Spears got a little too out of control. I ended up taking Pollard in a bunch of late drafts. I took him in the FBI. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:40 He's my RB2. So I'm like, all right, I'll take that. But you know, my big takeaway here, and again, not to be hot takey, but how about a overreaction where we're kidding, not kidding? And I said this from the beginning, Will Levis stinks. Like Will Levis is never going to, I mean, this guy is, he's going to be like the new Gus for his going to like run through a wall or something like that. Like it's just not going to happen will Levis.
Starting point is 00:19:04 He'll be brilliant on one play. I mean, the guy is ridiculously talented, but I mean, it's just not happening. And I don't think it ever will. And he's in a super weird mayonnaise commercial now that like my wife saw. She's like she goes, that's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. Like a lot of people don't like mayonnaise, but just another strike against. I know I know people with with my body language study. But, you know, I don't care because that's kind of what I've used for an advantage forever in life and everything.
Starting point is 00:19:35 But I sat and watched him interviewed at the combine with I think it was. Jim Miller and Pat Kerwin and I was like some of the worst vibes observing a human being from five feet away that I've ever had in my life I'm like not this guy I mean you know some people might think I'm ridiculous for saying that but it his his play it kind of represents that like he's just all over the freaking mat like and it's mostly bad yeah yeah this game was this was a tough watch only five third downs were converted in this entire game between both teams. You know, we, we did ask Mr. C and those pods about, you know, this receiving core because they've got Ridley and they've got D. Hop and, you know, they brought in Boyd and who's going
Starting point is 00:20:21 to get to work. And Mr. C was emphatic. He goes, this is Calvin Riddley's show. That's what they're going to lean on. And really did have the most targets. He only caught three of seven for 50 yards. But, you know, that gives you hope if you got Ridley and maybe he's your wide receiver three or something. You take three for 50 and we'll see what he gets in, you know, gets into the end zone. The only offensive score, well, we had Tony Pollard Roman in and the only receiving score, Chiggy Akonkwo, two for 15 and a receiving grab for Chiggy. D. Hop, by the way, Dihop is in the dirt. Yeah, he's done. Forget about him. All right. All right. Let's take a quick time out right here. When we come back on the other side,
Starting point is 00:20:57 keep moving through week one in the NFL. It's the Fantasy Points podcast. All right, welcome back in everybody. Going through week one in the NFL, talking a little fantasy football here in the Fantasy Points podcast. Let's see. Where should we go next? Let's find another barn burner of a game here, Johnny. And, oh, God, this is next on the list. The Patriots go into Cincinnati and defeat the hapless Bengals 16 to 10.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I put this on the Bengals ownership, Mike Brown, for creating this team, you talk vibes and body language. There is not a good culture going on right now in Cincinnati. like these guys between Higgins and Jamar Chase, nobody showed up to play today. Sell the team, you cheap bastards. You know what I'm saying? That's the problem. They're cheap as hell.
Starting point is 00:21:50 This is terrible. How does a team come in with Jacoby Brissette and a bunch of receivers you've never heard of? The leading receiver on the Patriots had 31 yards. And they came in and they ate your lunch, Cincinnati. This is the team with like Super Bowl aspirations. That's ridiculous. Well, let's start.
Starting point is 00:22:08 the Cincinnati side you know people were talking hey Zach Moss you know again and Chase Brown you know Brown was this big kind of sexy sleeper in the fantasy community he did a whole lot of nothing uh Zach Moss scored nine for 44 and a touchdown also caught a couple of balls here so if you got Chase Brown you can't start him he's he's bench fodder no no no and I kept Chase Brown on my list but I also wrote in the Hanson's Hansen's answer not Hansen's well actually I called a touchdown for him today on our live stream uh and And I kind of, I think I wrote that. But I said, look, I watched the first preseason game, Moss didn't play.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Chase Brown started. I'm like, they need Moss. They need Moss to be their, you know, foundational runner, if you will. That's kind of what he was. Yeah, I don't know what's going on there. There's definitely a bad vibe. I did have Burrow on my list. I mean, 21 to 29, Chase comes up late.
Starting point is 00:23:00 But yeah, really underwhelming. Like, what is going on here? Certainly the T. Higgins thing didn't help in the Chase thing. But come on, man. It's New England. Like Christian Gonzalez is good. They have corners, but it's not a scary front by any stretch. You should have had a little better of a showing here when Joey B was healthy.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yeah, Joe Burrow, 21 of 29 for a buck 64 at home in perfect weather. Chase was out there. Chase played a ton. So you can't hear the, oh, Chase, you know, they babyed them. They didn't. He was out there. He caught all six of his targets for 62 yards. You know, even in, but the vibes are so bad.
Starting point is 00:23:40 They talk to him in the locker room afterwards, John, and he's kind of deflecting, ah, we didn't really have, you know, Joe missed me here and I was protecting myself there. And boy, it just seems bad. Like either pay the guy or, I don't know, just trade him or do something. This is not tenable here. And how do all three of them commiserate when they're literally competing against one another for cheap ass Mike Brown's money, basically? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Higgins, Chase, and Burrow. Right. You know, we know Burrow got paid and Chase is going to, T. Higgins is not. T. Higgins knows he's gone. Remember when we were talking to Schaefter earlier this year? And he said multiple times, not just here. I've heard him say to other places. He goes, I don't want to be in on T. Higgins.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And he was like, because something like this, he knows he's going to go to free agency. He doesn't want to get hurt. It wouldn't shock me if, you know, he wasn't hurt. He just kind of sandbagged it for a while, just to kind of say, F you. to Mike Brown and the team wouldn't shock me at all no yeah I mean more more about me than ever in national football league which you understand to an extent but yeah I mean there's there's a fine line there but maybe maybe they're in de gaff mode I mean it's hard to say like I'm a very I'm very rebellious that's why I had to end up working for myself because I don't think I could have
Starting point is 00:24:59 handled having a boss so I mean if I'm in that situation I probably would have done the same day oh what am I hurt oh oops you know what I mean I probably would do that do the same damn thing. Andre Yoshavos, if a lot of people were picking him up and trying to start him in a lineup, because Chase wasn't there. He didn't do anything for you.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Three for 26. How about your guy, Mike Giseki? Three for 18 had a touchdown called back. So he scored and everyone was super excited. And then I think there was a penalty. Something happened. They called it back. But it was nice to see they actually targeted him in the end zone.
Starting point is 00:25:31 So maybe we can put that in the positive column for down the road. I don't know. but Tanner Hudson was running into the end zone for a tutty and he also fumbled got the ball popped out. Yeah. You see that? Yep. That happened multiple times today where guys were about to score and it got punched out. Travis ETM should have had another touchdown.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Yeah. But flipping over to the Patriots here, they just leaned on remandre. 25 carries, John, for a buck 20 and a touchdown. They, and I use the term always write them until the wheels fall off. That's exactly what this offense is going to do to remandre. If you got them, plug her. in every week because that's their whole offense. Yeah. Yeah. I wish I drafted him more. He was on my list. He made the cut for sure. But I was high on him the whole off season.
Starting point is 00:26:17 But I ended up, I didn't end up getting them enough because I was a little worried about, you know, the lame offense. It's only one game. The offense is by the way, in fact, lame. But you know who else is lame? Antonio Gibson. He stinks. Seven for 18, 2.6 yards of carry. didn't even catch a ball. And good luck with the with the Jalen Polk shares, guys. Give it. Give it up already. I know Belichick's gone, but give it up.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Tyquan Thornton out there. Give me a break. This is an ugly, nasty receiving core. I didn't like Pop Douglas because I thought he'd see a lot of Mike Hilton, but come on. If Pop Douglas can't even catch three balls, then like this, it's worthless. Like there's literally nothing here. Nothing. What are they going to do when they actually fall behind a team that that shows up and wants to play? Jacoby Bressat's not the answer. Drake May will be in there before. Yeah, going to have to be. I mean, from what I saw
Starting point is 00:27:18 Berset was all right, though, I guess. He, you know, didn't lose the game. He, you know, managed it. What do you think of this Patriots defense, though? They're competitive. You know, they want to play. They got a defensive-minded head coach. They have a little chip on their shoulder, it seems i think they're going to give people some trouble this year it seems like they're there to play man they got a bunch of sacks huh geez they beat up on uh our guy joey burrow man wow wow i i did not know that yeah i don't know what's going on with burrow you know i just have a a weird vibe someone told me i i've reported this back a few times at the combine that he basically refuses to play uh under center which I that I do not like that I just think that's so limiting but yeah it it's just got to be the money
Starting point is 00:28:09 here uh you know I mean this is a pretty good team that's usually you know is very competitive and you know this is just a real I mean look a bad game's a bad game burn the tape all that distractions and all that but still it's it's worrisome because like guys you know who came out and played well week one the the Kansas city chiefs the world champs so So you got no shot to take them down showing up like this in week one. No, not at all. You know, another team they're going to have to beat in those AFC playoffs, if they even make it there are the Houston Texans who are 1 and 0
Starting point is 00:28:46 after a really fun 2927 win over the Indianapolis Colts. This game featured a lot of fantasy goodness. So if you drafted Joe Mixin, if you had Nico Collins, maybe you were on the Anthony Richardson train, you know, Jonathan Taylor. They all came through. This was a blast, John. Let's see, both teams, Houston with over 400 yards of offense, Indy got over 300.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Let's start with Houston and Joe Mixing. 30 carries for a buck 59 and a touchdown added three receptions. I did not see that coming. No, he looked phenomenal. I was kind of agnostic on him. I wasn't really down on him. I ranked him, I think, right around the ADP, but he was not on my list,
Starting point is 00:29:28 just because I just don't like aging, running backs but man he looked good i mean he he seemed like a real good fit uh for their scheme he had space to run he looks spry i didn't see everything obviously i can't watch it all but i i didn't get a warm and fantastic feeling with uh strowd but you know the numbers look pretty good digs bogarts uh a couple of tuttey's there you know we did like collins and dell we kind of liked them all and you know that overall was they they came through just to a little disappointed in Dell. And yeah, it, it, let's say it this way, things are clearly going to be more difficult for Stroud this year. Now, it looks like he's up for the task, but that's clearly
Starting point is 00:30:13 the case. Like it's not going, he's not going to carve up the league like he did last year, I don't think. Yeah. And if you're starting any of these receivers, you know, Nico Collins, I think is their alpha. He's, he can do it all. He can get vertical. They can find him when they need a tough catch over the middle two. He caught six of his eight targets for a buck 17. Stefan Diggs gets two scores, but only for 33 yards. And tank Dell, like I was saying, this is going to happen every week. You're going to have a man or two that just doesn't come through. And if you started tank Dell, three for 40, that's not doing anything for you. And Dalton Schultz, a tight end, three for 16. It was a terrible day for for tight ends, by the way.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah, it was. Forget it with Dalton Schultz. I don't know. I mean, he, he was, he was, somewhat high on the board, I guess, for me. And just because you had to be, but I had no interest in him whatsoever. Over on the other side, man, he might be a one-trick pony, but, you know, the Alec Pierce, Anthony Richardson mojo is pretty good, you know, like for what he does, Pierce, pretty good. But Richardson, all over the map, it was sloppy. O-line, underwhelmed. They didn't really open up much for Taylor.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I mean, it was a little worrisome. It was a weird, not an overly positive showing for the Colts, but at least they hung in there. Anthony Richardson kind of willing his way to, you know, that touchdown, for example. And obviously he comes through for fantasy. John, he completed nine passes.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Nine. Two of them went for touchdowns to. No, they got doubled up in time of possession, too. So they got to run the ball. JT, 16 carries, 48 yards. He did get a touchdown at the end of the, the game to kind of save his day. But, you know, JT. It's, it's one of those things, John. He's going to be hamstrung a little bit by Richardson's ability to run the ball in.
Starting point is 00:32:09 You know what it's going to be worse is to friggin. Can you check it down like once a game? Like it doesn't even get a target, which I thought he would get over the prop. I'm so pissed to myself for that one. It was like 12 yards. I'm like, oh, who's going to get a trace? sermon. I was right in that regard, but you got, you got to throw a running back of a ball. He threw zero running backs of ball in this game. Yeah, that is very, very telling. If you need a kicker, I gave you one earlier with Boswell, Kaimi Fairbaron. Dudes nail in 40, 50 yards all day long. This offense is going to move the ball up and down the field. If he's available in your league, you need a kicker.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Jaime Fairbaron is a guy to look at. Anything else from this game? You know, Alec Pierce, people are going to look at that, John. They're going to go, oh my God, three first. a buck 25 and a score should I go pick him up off the waiver wire. I mean, you can't. Josh Downs, maybe back soon. He'll cloud this up a little bit more. It could be a little bit of a problem, though, with, you know, Pitman. I mean, Pittman caught 100 balls last year.
Starting point is 00:33:13 I'm not sure he's doing that this year. No, four for 31 for Michael Pittman on eight targets. A.D. Mitchell did have a touchdown. Maybe two if I was watching the right game that he should have been touchdowns. He ends with one reception for two yards. but he was wide open for a few. So better days coming for AD Mitchell. But Ashton, come on.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Doolin. Give me a break. How you doling? Not well. Not well. Come on. The day started with a story that's just wild. Tyree Kill put in handcuffs and detained before the game in Miami,
Starting point is 00:33:52 was ticketed and charged with reckless driving. You know, there's a whole litany of things going on with that. One of the guys who was involved in it's already been suspended. But outside of that on the field, we had, you know, some fireworks here from the dolphins. This is a doll. I think the Jaguars, they had a big lead in this one, too, John. And just let it trickle away here. Devon A. Chan for the Miami Dolphins, 10 carries, 24 yards and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:34:19 He did leave the game for a while. He was a little banged up. But here's what saved you in a PPR. seven receptions on seven targets for 76 yards from A-chan. You got to like that if you took him second, third round. They had him in the goal line too, Jen. That's how we got a touchdown. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I know. You know, Scott Barrett said, I mean, he's their third receiver, basically, which, hey, I feel you. But, you know, what happens when OBJ? I mean, they paid OBJ. I mean, you got to play him. So, but still, A-chan clearly is going to be a huge fact in the passing game. Of course, we say that most of it did get three.
Starting point is 00:34:55 targets. But man, Moster, what a bus kill that is. Oh, boy. I mean, there were all kinds of data points that pointed toward explosive plays. Now, granted, they made, they made some. They made three of them. The A. Chan catch in the beginning of the game. And then Waddle and Hill, of course, but not so much on the ground, though. That was a little weird. Yeah. And we saw Jeff Wilson, Jr. getting in on the act a little bit. Maybe that was a, because, you know, Moster and A. got banged up because that's what they do. Hill comes through, Waddle comes through. I mean, look at Tyreek.
Starting point is 00:35:27 After all that nonsense earlier in the day, still gets targeted 12 times seven for a buck 30 and a touchdown. Jalen Waddle, five for 109. It's just such a small target tree in Miami. It is. In DFS, if you want to target these guys, just go for it because the ball's only going to three guys. So it's easy to predict.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I mean, John Hussmith was a non-factor. really two targets yeah nothing much going on here good day for two uh only the one touchdown pass you know 23 to 37 338 yards how about two of though giving us 11 yards on the ground that might be a career high for him i wrote that in hansen's hints uh by the way that you know don't be surprised if he runs just a little more i thought maybe we'd get like three for like 15 but you know it's it's a start 11 is 11 yards is that more than he got all last year It may be. What do you think of Moster?
Starting point is 00:36:26 When people are going to be hitting you up everywhere, John, do I start Moster? Do I put him on a bench? Do I drop his ass? People get crazy after one week. Yeah. He ran for 74 last year to Tua. I mean, I'm not dropping him. I'd be a little worried. You know, Jalen Wright was inactive, by the way. I'd have to give it one more game, though.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I'd be a little worried, but I have to give it one more game. Let's go over to the Jaguars who converted two of ten. third downs. That is awful. Oof, Trevor Lawrence, bad day. 12 of 21 for a buck 62 and a touchdown. On the ground, you know, Travis E.TN had a touchdown 12 for 44. Carrying the Rock should have had a second, had the ball punched out if you didn't see it at like the one yard line and it was recovered by Miami. So he should have had a much bigger day.
Starting point is 00:37:16 That would have changed the complexion of this game. To be honest, Jacksonville probably wins that game. Oh, it's like a 14-point swing, seemingly. Yeah. So what do you have thoughts on? Let's be honest, Tank Biggsby got as many carries as Travis E.TN. He had 12 carries for 73 yards. Yeah, I have to go back and watch him.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I did not see the 26-yarder. My biggest takeaway is that I was not high enough on Brian and Thomas. Now, he only had four targets, but the utilization, I did not necessarily expect that. He was kind of like a weapon. I did think Gabe Davis would actually do something. I said that this morning and I wrote that this morning. But I also did like Christian Kirk. That was a buzz kill.
Starting point is 00:38:00 But again, you know, only 21 targets or attempts by Lawrence is just, that's just not going to cut it. Like we need, you know, 35 to 40% more than that, man. I mean, like Tua's over there throwing it 37 times. So yeah, a little worried for sure. it comes back to third down conversions that's why i love giving that stat out if you don't convert on third down look miami it was 50% on third down they were eight of 16 that keeps drives going that gets fantasy points in your pocket two of ten are you a Doug peterson person as an eagles fan by the way i'll never say a bad
Starting point is 00:38:38 thing about Doug peterson since he coached us to a super bowl but uh you know with Doug peterson impressed impressed with their offensive showing in jacksonville of course he's on the first he's on the perfect team because when As it comes to offensive coaches, I think he's a JAG. You know the best thing about Doug E.P. And there's a multitude of reasons why he is out of Philadelphia. But the Jacksonville media will never, and the fan base doesn't care. So they'll never like get on the hot seat with him.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Like Doug Peterson, because they go, oh, we got a Super Bowl winning coach. He'll stay there for another four years if he wants to. Just keep cruising. By the way, I mentioned those numbers. Biggsby with 12 carries just like ETN. ETN did have 68% of the rushing share of the snaps there, nine of 10 on third down, and he also had the only carry inside the 10 Biggsby,
Starting point is 00:39:28 only 34% of the snaps, but he did get those 12. So maybe a waiver wire guy, John, if he's out there, oh, yeah, stash and hope. Oh, for sure. Like, you're not making it through the year with ETN collecting even 60% of the carries.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I don't think in the touches in the back. You, you, yeah, because he's, he'll wear down. You got to get a different look in there. Like, he's, he's, he's not that great, you know, and he's, his vision isn't all that good. Like, his power isn't anything special, you know, like, he's all right, you know, but, and he's versatile. But, yeah, you got to get another back and body in there, look, you know, all that. Yeah. And finally, man, Evan Ingram.
Starting point is 00:40:11 What the hell? Where was he? Four targets, caught one of four five? come on i mean again the brian thomas just kind of just bogarded about half of the production that i thought you know would go to kirk and ingram kirk and ingram combined for two catches for 35 yards wow i mean kirk's 30-yard grab was a great play but i mean come on yeah that's terrible i'm going to go throw up in my mouth let's take a time out when we come back talk about the biggest blowout of the day it's the fantasy points podcast
Starting point is 00:40:47 All right, John, welcome back in, my friend, talking week one in fantasy football. Let's go down to the Caesar's Superdome where, holy smokes, nobody ever likes to get on the bandwagon of Derek Carr. But man, oh, man, three touchdown passes today for Derek Carr, 19 of 23 for 200 yards. They just poured it on this hapless Carolina team in their first game with Dave Canales as the head coach. With that goof of an owner down there, John, Dave Canales might not make it to the buy week. with this performance. This was as ugly as it gets. Yeah. And, you know, I didn't see a lot of it. You know, every time they went there, it was bad.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I mean, it looked like the O line was was sucky. Like, like, I mean, how many times do you get sacked? You know, like it was another horrible showing by the O line. He looked rattled as well. I mean, worst call the week for me is I thought Chuba Hubbard, was worth something and freaking Miles Sanders. That was all late. I mean, this, this was bad.
Starting point is 00:41:54 This, this was like, we can't, we can't, we, we, we, we, we already need to replace Deonté Johnson. Deonté Johnson, six targets today. That's cool. But two for 19. Boy, he was just eaten up by this Saints defense. And the leading receiver was Adam Thielen three for 49. And he could be on some waiver wires out there.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I got no problem. if you need him as a by week fill in or if you're in a super deep skank league like the fPI geez i think i have adam feeling the fpi i think i started but yeah bryce young dude it's it's it's not good chuba hubbard you don't want to start him 14 yards rushing today like my god there's nothing i mean i mean if if you're if you're in a game chuba hubbard's not the the whole the worst option but man you got blown out here i mean there's another game with a time of possession was a joke. They had no shot.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah, 13 more minutes of time possession for the Saints. I've been banging on these third down numbers. How about the Saints today? 7 of 13. Carolina, John, one of 10 on third down. Didn't even have 200 yards of total offense today. Well, let's talk about the Saints. So Derek Carr gets it going to our guy, Rashid Shaheed, caught a bomb.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I think that was the first touchdown of the day. He finishes 3 for 73 and a touchdown. Alvin Kamara, strong day. He's on the ground for 83 yards, gets in the end zone as a runner, also caught five balls. So Elvin Kamar, not anybody that people were excited to draft, but with this offense that, let's be honest, doesn't have a ton of weapons. He's going to get used, you know, time in and time out here. He's the guy in this offense. Yeah, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I mean, you know, what's his face is on the PUP, a, I forgot his name. Kendry Miller. Kendry Miller. Yeah. I mean, he's on POP. I did have a feeling Jamal Williams would actually do something. He freaking scores.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I did actually talk up Shaheed a little bit in my hands as hints. And this morning on the live stream, I'm like, I think I said it to somewhere. I'm like, yeah, I see a 50-yarder. Like, he just beats his own heavy teams. I think I wrote that this morning. and we got that but we also spread it around too much uh joan johnson was another guy's like let's let's see what happens here because you know they do need another target of course freaking foster morrow uh cars or former teammate but a little too much spreading around and the biggest buzz kill of course
Starting point is 00:44:35 is freaking alave a lave is like what what are we doing here you would you mean to tell me we score 47 and i get two targets and i'm the number one receiver i mean this is what this is not healthy. No, Chris Alave, two receptions on two targets for 11 yards. Oof, that's terrible. We got the Cowboys this week, that's going to have to change this week in Dallas. Yeah, and we'll get to the Cowboys in a minute. They look great.
Starting point is 00:45:03 So we'll move on from this one. All right, I got to just fill you guys in. Week 10 in Germany, the Giants play the Panthers at 9.30 in the morning Eastern time. Take your boy, Drake's advice and just sleep in. These are the two worst teams in football. The Giants get whitewashed today, or yesterday, when you're listening to this, by the Minnesota Vikings, 28 to 6. This was, Vikings, they're your Vikings, John.
Starting point is 00:45:33 They're not a good team. The Giants just aren't competitive. This was bad. Daniel Jones, what are we? He's just throwing balls, the defensive linemen for pick sixes. Just terrible. Brutal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And Daniel Jones looked bad this summer. We didn't see enough of him to really, you know, feel good. I didn't to feel good about Malik Neighbors. Now, Neighbors does, to everyone's point with volume, he does come through a little bit. I actually like Wondale a little bit, if you can believe that. 12 targets, 12 targets for Wondell. There's a waiver wire guy in a team that's going to be behind every game. Yeah, absolutely, of course.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Of course, Slayton still does too. Just a disaster. they did get Johnson, the rookie, you know, more action than Bellinger. I was curious about that. Not that I really care that much. But, yeah, Wondell would be the guy. I think we could probably count on him for, I don't know, eight points a game, eight to ten is not bad on the low end.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Today he got Joe at 10.4. He had six grabs for 44 yards. If you can get 10 points in a skankly, like the FBI, I'll take that. Yeah, he also had a carry for 14. Oh, yeah, yeah, I see this. Well, speaking to carries, Devon Singletary, 10 for 37, just got kind of game scripted out here. But that could be a running theme here for the Giants going forward is game scripts are not in their favor. And Devin Singletary could get kind of pushed to the side.
Starting point is 00:47:02 They're probably going to want to establish him early and get things going their way. But if they fall behind in games like this, I mean, you're just punting at it running back two spot with Devon Singletary. Now, let me ask you a back up on my. moment. Yeah. Malik neighbors. Knowing what you know now would if you, I think you liked them. I don't know. I did. It seemed like everyone. Would, do you feel, are you worried a little bit after, after one game? Well, he got seven targets, caught five for 66. And I'm going to bet on talent here. There's no talent in the backfield. Wendell is just a guy running slant routes over the middle. There's no real tight end to think, to speak up. As I think the season goes on, they're just going to
Starting point is 00:47:44 to feed him. And if we can get, if seven is his floor in targets, because that's only going to go up. I think neighbors is going to come through for you. It's just going to be all garbage time. He's going to be like the garbage time hero every week. You go to halftime and he's got three points. And you're like, oh, my God, neighbors just kill me. Then you look at the end of the game. He's got, you know, nine catches for 95 yards. And they lose by 30. I just don't know if we're going to make it through four months of slop in New York. because, you know, Dayball could be dead man walking. Like, Dayball's getting canned if things go horribly.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Mike Kafka, he's getting canned, you know. And then if Danny Dimes has any issue, I mean, we're literally going to have to count on Tommy Cutlets because Drew Locke is not the answer. Like, Drew Locke is poor man's Daniel Jones, which is pathetic. Put in Tommy Cutlet's agent. Let that guy play. Didn't he just have a meeting with Pope? Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Anyone but about Danny at this point, man. The beard's not working, Danny. No, then those uniforms. Did you see their Montreal Canadian? What the hell? Monstrosity was that? Yeah, if you're going to play bad, at least look good doing it. Your Vikings played well. You know, I was nervous about Sammy Donald going out there and could he get the ball to Justin Jefferson. And he started the game. He was like, like 12 of 10. 10 of 10. Yeah, he was he started off hot. And it helps that the Giants have absolutely no secondary. If you're playing DFS, just target the Giants every week. They don't have any corners and they don't have any safeties. So, you know, you'll pay dividends. Justin Jefferson did find the end zone four for 59. So that kind of saved his day. Jordan Addison leaves the game
Starting point is 00:49:28 with what could be a high ankle. And John, that's going to open things up for this Jalen Naylor kid who caught one ball for 21 and a touchdown. But yeah, he had a really nice preseason. So he's to be a name on the waiver wire yeah yeah and um you know nailer can play outside too so you know inside outside they actually have decent depth they've got tristan jackson and sherfield and i know lucky jackson well he wasn't that lucky because he got sent to the practice squad right but he's still there i believe tyree no wait yeah there he is lucky jackson so yeah yeah that that is a buzzkill but not a shock that sammy donald did As you mentioned, their secondary is very, very beatable. They play a lot of man.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Things are defined. But certainly, hey, pretty good sign. I thought Aaron Jones would be in solid shape here. He was. Ty Chandler, I don't think he's very good. So Aaron Jones. If you're wondering, should I start Aaron Jones? I'm going to like, yeah, start Aaron Jones.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Because it's not like Green Bay. Like, he's all I have. Like, he's got to get 17, 18. touches every or opportunities every week. Yeah, Aaron Jones, 53% of the snaps. He did have four of the five inside the 10-yard lines. So your boy, Ty Chandler, again, this is a blowout too. So they were getting guys in.
Starting point is 00:50:54 He had 37% of the snap. So yeah, it could get dark early for the Giants here. But you got to be excited as a Vikings fan. Starting 1-0, baby. Woo! I'm a Van Ginkle guy, so I did like their defense. We told someone on the live stream this morning, I believe to start them.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Van Ginkle getting through. When you make it to the NFL with the name Andrew Van Ginkle, you got my respect, okay? Yeah, man. If you come back from multiple season-ending surgeries, ACLs, Achilles, and you can come back and put 135 on the board, you got our respect too. And that's exactly what J.K. Dobbins did for the L.A. Chargers on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Really cool story. Again, I was, I tweeted it out. We mentioned it here several times. Gus Edwards is just a guy. He's not talented at all. He could barely get over like 60 yards and any of his starts with Baltimore last year. And those coaches, Roman and Harbaugh, love J.K. Dobbins. And I mean, yeah, he had one where he busted through the middle and he looked like he blew out of tire 40 yards into the run.
Starting point is 00:51:59 But 10 carries for 135, J.K. Dobbins is going to, you know, they're going to split carries a little bit. J.K. Dombins is the better player. Like, if he's on your wire, pick him up. I thought he looked good. I thought he looked as good as he's looked in two years on several runs. Obviously, the 61-yarder, the touchdown run. I think someone slipped on there and kind of left open a gap, but Dobbins exploded through it.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah, look good. Look good. Absolutely. You know, I did a couple of draft plans where, you know, it was like I waited for my fourth running back and I threw him on there. It was hard to like back him, back him. I don't think he was on my list, but i probably had him maybe a little over the adp but regardless if he's available on the waiver
Starting point is 00:52:44 wire that that's an explosive pickup there i mean probably get hurt but you know as long you know in a couple of weeks based on his track record but he did again he looked very very good today lad mcconkey comes through i wrote this morning i'm like look he's basically going to be the keenan allen here my other guy josh palmer comes up small though that was unfortunate but you know not that we're that shocked. Justin Herbert only throws it 26 times in the game. So, you know, they are playing with leather helmets here. Keep that in mind.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Dobbins does get three grabs, too. That's no small story there as well. How about this? Dobbins, 60% of the running back snaps. He played on 13 of 14 third downs. And had all of the carries inside the 10. J.K. Dobbins is the lead running back for the L.A. charges here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:35 You know, go over and talk a little bit about the Las Vegas Raiders. And I feel bad for Raiders fans because Antonio Pierce, as good of a story as it is, of hey, he was his former player and the, you know, all the guys on the team love playing for him, blah, blah, he doesn't know what he's doing. There was a point in this fourth quarter here where he's in plus territory. He's at like the 40 yard line, John. Did you see this? It was like a fourth down with a couple minutes left in the game.
Starting point is 00:54:01 He punted. And then that's when the Chargers just went down and closed it out. It's like that's like a 100% surrender rate, like all these analytics of should you punt here and all that stuff. Go for it. Right. Yeah, what are you punting for? You're down. I think they were down, I don't know, it was like five or six points right there.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Fourth and one from like your like the 40 yard line of the chargers and you're punting. But yeah, this team is, it's just lost. Garner Minchew is your quarterback. throws for 257, you know, gets the ball out to Jacoby Myers. I was never in on Devante Adams. He goes five for 59. But what I want to ask you about, John, how about Brock Bowers? You look good.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Eight targets, six for 58. That's, that's an improvement. I mean, hey, if you're dying at tight end, maybe you lost turd Ferguson, who we'll talk about later, Brock Bowers, he's on the waiver wire, pick him up. Yeah, yeah. He did look good. He looked shot out of a cannon. I saw Michael Mayer get a couple of grabs, but I see those were the only two.
Starting point is 00:55:03 You saw them both. How about Madison, though? We really got to get Madison. I guess you need a third down back, but yeah, I thought Zemir White was a decent late pick. He does catch a couple of ball. He gets 15 touches. I guess you can't complain. You get 15 touches in a 12-point loss, but that was a little disappointing.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah, I thought Devante would have a big game. They spread the ball around a little bit. Yeah, I mean, Tucker was a little bit more involved in. the box scores seem to indicate here. Yeah, I mean, there's, yeah, I mean, they're, they're week to week. You know, certainly, um, good star for Bowers, you know, a little worried about Devante, not getting that target chair. Uh, then Zemir, I'm a little worried about him, kind of pull back from him a little bit
Starting point is 00:55:50 because freaking Madison apparently has got to be on the field in passing situations. Zem, you mentioned Zemir white and Madison. Madison played 59% of the snaps to Zemir's 39% and Madison played on 13 of 14 third downs. I mean, I get it. I guess. I mean, he's all right. You know, I mean, it's not like Zamir is a zero in the passing game, though. Yeah, it's just, I don't want to count out any of those guys. This is a bad team on a really bad offense. They played a super slow pace. Hey, trust me. I, I did think Zamir was worth a pick if you needed a running back in round eight or whatever. Did I take them in one draft? No, I did not. Honestly, I did not.
Starting point is 00:56:32 This team is not explosive at all. Let's keep cruising here. Seattle, the defense. I was telling everybody, go pick up the Seattle defense for the first two weeks. They came through. Ken Walker, 20 carries, 103 yards, and a touchdown. Also caught a couple of balls for six yards. Should have had a second touchdown, John. He had one call back.
Starting point is 00:56:56 So really should have been a two touchdown day for Ken Walker. He leaves the game early after the game that he is asked by it. an abdominal issue. He says he's fine, but just monitor that. You know, if you're a Ken Walker owner and you don't have Zach Sharbonnet.
Starting point is 00:57:10 He's always hurt. Yeah, so find Sharbonnet, who had eight carries for 12 yards today. You know, it is what it is with these Seahawks, John. We don't want to count on any of these guys.
Starting point is 00:57:22 We always draft D.K. too high. He comes up small for us. Nobody wants Tyler Lockett, leads the team in targets, receptions, and yards, six for 77 for Tyler Lockett.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I proudly did not have any of them on my target list this year, but I also perennially under-rate lock it. I'm not a DK person. I did feel a lot in general. I did feel a lot better about JSN this year, and I liked him in this game. But once again, he underwhelms. And it's another example of, you know, spreading it around just a little too much. Not too bad, but, you know, no offense. somewhat involved.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Yeah, I guess they only threw it 25 damn times. That's really the problem. Yeah, you didn't have to because, you know, dink and dunk Bo Nix is turning the ball over and taking sacks. I mean, this offense looked terrible, man. That's like, we talked at the top about calls we have about like you can just see things and just project them for the whole season. This Denver offense stinks.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I mean, Bo Nix is like the Rose Royce version of Zach Wilson. know like is that gilson his backup i know i know i mean do you even know what you're seeing out there like i mean you played 17 years in college and yet you're looking over the middle of field at his own defense you have no freaking idea what's going on that's not a great side i know it's his first game but i don't know if bone necks flames out i'm going to start the narrative that that sean peyton is overrated yeah drew breeze made sean payton because guess what Sean Payton kind of sucked before Drew Brice. Yeah. Drew Brie
Starting point is 00:59:03 made a lot of people look good, made a lot of people money down there in New Orleans, a franchise that was dead before he got there. Was a week to week guy. He was a week. Oh, he called a good game. Next week. No, he didn't. Next week. Oh, yeah, he's bad. I mean, that's what he was to me before
Starting point is 00:59:19 Drew Brise. But yeah, this this offense is painful. Javante. This is another wasteland. Like, what is Marvin Mims that freaking bad. Are you kidding me? I've heard things from people who cover said Broncos team that Marvin
Starting point is 00:59:39 Mims is a bad dude who coaches and teammates do not like. I have not heard that. That's wild. One target for Marvin Mims today. Basically, Marvin Mims is not playable in fantasy at this point. There's no reason to even have them on a roster. No, just give it up. I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:55 the talented kid tested well, made explosive plays seemingly made some progress this year i wasn't expecting the world but jesus this valet dude out of nowhere i don't even know who that is to be honest i don't know d valet is this guy that's all i know i'm gonna say on valet yeah well peyton loves his little pet projects oh well he loves in courtland sudden be your pet project i had like well turlid You know what? You got Greg Dulciss. She runs like a deer. Like, you know what? You know what? I'm going, I'm going to crawl. F yeah. Let's go with Lucas Krull.
Starting point is 01:00:35 My God, look at these guys out here. How about the back? Their running game was absolute ass. And it wasn't just Javante. It was it was McLaughlin couldn't go anywhere. No, Javante, 52% of the running back snaps, 11 of 18 on third down. McLaughlin, 35% of those rush snaps. But McLaughlin, you know, 10, carries for 27, eight for 23 for Javante. I mean, oh, there's nothing. Five catches for McLaughlin for one more yard than you had today. Yeah, you didn't see me in my flag football game at 8 a.m. I had a couple of grabs, but yeah, it's, it's did you really play in a flag football game
Starting point is 01:01:14 this morning? Hell no. Come on. I'm asleep. Oh, kidding me? This is the one day of the week. I literally don't have anything to do. Uh, I know I blew my hamstring. I know you had a big trick or treating thing with your calf. I played softball this week. I used to be a big softball guy. And my buddy calls up, hey, you know, I'm sub, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, all right, fine. I haven't played in like five years because I golf all the time now. Go out there. I'm trying to tag up from second base on a fly ball. A sniper from the outfield just takes me out. Boom, blows out the hamstring. I'm limping into the play. I'm like, oh, looks like I'm playing catcher for the rest of the season. I play softball in a league with a bunch of like 28 30 year olds not that long ago. I was like 46 with Matt camp who used to work
Starting point is 01:02:00 with us and Joe Dolan. And I wasn't a much of an outfielder. We played this huge stadium, you know, this park, 420 in center. Wow. 20. And they put me back there. And I'm like, sure enough, first batter hits at 400. And I'm like, off the bat, I'm like, I have no chance. But luck, I think the win got it, but I caught it. It didn't look good, but I caught it. Yeah, that didn't go. I mean, I actually, I held my own playing with the young guys, but there were a couple of moments where my, my brain thought I could do something that my body disagree with.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Hey, shout out to Matt Kemp. Follow at the wrestling mat on Instagram for he does tons of good wrestling content. I'm a big fan. So let's see. Anything else from this game, John? I mean, if you're starting Javante, you got him or Cortland's, I mean, he got 12 targets, which is nice, but four for 38, you just kind of chalked that up to, well, it ain't happening or do you want to sell already on Cortland Sutton? No, I mean, you know, he's there one, you know, if you're, if you're in a skank league, Josh Reynolds, that's a pickup.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Yeah, five for 40. Are he picking up, I don't know what his first name is again. I'm going to call him Dick Villet. Devon. I like Dick Ville better. But, all right, Devon, Villet, eight, 39. No. No. No. I can't do it. I cannot. I cannot. I mean, eight, he caught all eight targets, too. That, that is ridiculous. No, I'm going to go Reynolds. I can't do it. All right. Well, let's take a quick pause right here. Come back and finish out the last couple games on the Finacy Points podcast. All right. Let's close it out here, John, the home stretch. It's supposed to be the game of the day. Tom Brady's debut as a broadcaster in the regular season. The Dallas Cowboys go into Cleveland and beat the crap out of the Browns. And I tweeted during the game.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I go, I don't want anything to do with any Browns offensive player as long as Deshaun Watson is under center. This offense stunk, two of 15 on third downs. I mean, over. Yeah, Jerome four, 12 carries for 44 yards. He does score. Watson throws for a buck 69 and a touchdown. And Joku leaves the game with an injury. Got to monitor that. But I mean, there's nothing happen in this receiver group. Nine targets for our boy, Amari Cooper. He goes two for 16.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Oof, this offense stinks. I mean, Watson's brutal. It's over. Like, we have not seen him basically now. We're like four years now since we've really, a couple of months. It'll be like four years, basically, since we've seen them play at a high level.
Starting point is 01:04:47 So I think he kind of ruins everyone. I did not have a single Browns player on my target list this year. I don't know if I mean, that's a first. Like not a single player. And I'm sure it's not a first, but it's a first for a team with this many guys going off the board in the top 150, let's say. I mean, they had one, two, three, four,
Starting point is 01:05:15 at least four, four to five guys going off the board of top 150. I had no, zero. Zero point. I mean, I just, I just, it all starts with the quarterback and he's terrible. Like, he's lost his game. It's over. And you're all screwed if you have like Amari Cooper and the Joku, I think. The only way Amari Cooper is going to start coming through now is because both Jerry, Judy, and Joku left the game with some sort of, you know, lower body injury. So we'll monitor that. Always some drama with Judy, man. Always something. He did score a touchdown in kind of garbage time, but.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Yeah. Jerome Ford, though. He's just, he's like the junk man. He just collects all the trash, and at the end of the day, cashes the check. Let's go over to the Cowboys, where earlier in the day, Dak Prescott was awarded with a contract, making him the highest paid player in NFL history. So he's going to be sticking around for another four years. And, boy, I got to take this one on the chin because my guy, Uncle Rico,
Starting point is 01:06:14 So nothing happening here for Uncle Rico. Eight carries for 26 yards. Zeke Elliott led the team in carries. He had 10 for 40 and a touchdown. Also caught a couple of balls. So I think it'll be week to week. They'll kind of split carries, but I had a lot higher hopes for Uncle Rico than eight for 26.
Starting point is 01:06:33 But again, tough matchup. Yeah, I mean, I did have Zeke on my list of targets. Not that I took them, honestly. I did think he would get the goal line work. and probably the receiving work, which he kind of did, basically. So yeah, that was a weird one. You know, it's not that much of a shock. I guess maybe it was just a little flipped.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Maybe you thought maybe Rico would have been the guy to get 10 carries and Zique gets eight, something like that, which, you know, that could swap over. That could change. Really disappointed with my guy Ferguson, though, but, you know, he does get hurt. But apparently he's in good spirits. he's moving around pretty well. I'm not even sure. Was it a knee?
Starting point is 01:07:20 My brother-in-law, who's a huge Cowboys Homer, texts me literally seconds ago. It says it's something, hypertension, is that a thing? I don't know. So we'll see what goes on, but it looked, you know, could have been a knee,
Starting point is 01:07:34 could have been an ankle. Our thoughts are out with our guy, Turd Ferguson, who three for 15. Or hyper extension, maybe, yeah. Oh, yeah, no. no it is it is a knee yeah yeah hyper extension what i say hypertension sorry hyper extension i think i read it too quickly uh i mean it's like a sprain i guess right or or or or too dramatic of an
Starting point is 01:07:56 extension i'm not sure like like yeah hyper extension i don't know why we're we're not there's like a synonym to that that we're not coming up with but it was on i mean he did have a quiet game no matter what i did put uh my skank squad stack was dack prescott and cd lamb which was pretty good uh you know five for 61 for lamb i mean that was a that was a below average game for both players and that's the point but i also thought ferguson would would take advantage now i did like brandon cooks a lot this year i mean how many times we talk about him like i mean if you read the draft plan article i literally took them every time because like it's like oh i need a a six receiver in round 14 oh look brandon cook
Starting point is 01:08:43 Like nobody nobody wanted him this year, but here he goes. He's already off to a good start. So I don't know. Brandon Cook's good about having Brandon Cooks. Yeah, he'll be a name. Colbert make one play. I was like, all right, but that's it. But no, it's Brandon Cooks.
Starting point is 01:08:57 If he's on your waiver wire, check him out seven targets, four for 40 and a touchdown for cooks. He looked good. And Zeke Elliott, I mean, are you picking him up, John? Sure. And, you know, what's our limit test? Can you give me 10 points again? Yeah. And if he's getting the goal line work for a team that's going to move the ball up and down the field, hey, you can do it worse. Yeah. He'll do it. I mean, geez. You could have some of these other players we talked about here. Uh, by by Aubrey, man. I wanted Aubrey and the FBI. I was taking a left to right. Man. He is, he is a game changer, baby. I took him. I took him like in the, I don't know, 15th round, 14th, 15th. We were getting bored. There was just total skank. And I told the grinder. I go the hell with this. Brand. Brand, and Aubrey's going to score me more points in this league than whoever I draft in the 15th round.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Absolutely. I have them everywhere except the FPI and a couple of other spots. I wish I had him everywhere. But yeah, I mean, he is a needle mover, man. Brandon Aubrey, two 50 yarders and two 40 yarders today. He kicked a 66 yarder that, wait, what, he kicked it and I don't even remember what happened. Did they call time out or whatever? He did kick a 66 yarder that did not count. Right. Yeah. Something happened. Oh, it was a penalty. Yeah, pushed him back. In this game, too, by the way, as we've, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:18 turned this into a sponsored by, you know, third down conversions. Only six total third down conversions in this game, kind of a defensive slog. Cleveland, two of 15 and four for 14 for the Cowboys. So not impressed, even though Dallas won the game on the road against Cleveland. Like, if you look at this Dallas offense, you know, they got to get more in sync. And Lamb wasn't there for most of camp. and the running game is kind of non-existent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Their offense is not good enough and their defense is not good enough unless, I don't know what else. I mean, they're not going to automatically find a great running game. Ferguson's already hurt. They're not winning shit this year, Dallas. They're just not. It's not happening. Well, because we're recording this during the Sunday night game, we won't talk about it.
Starting point is 01:11:10 So the last game that we'll talk about is the. with a really impressive win over the commanders. Let's start with the commanders because Jaden Daniels Heisman Trophy winner was the starting quarterback here. A lot of hype for him. People wanted to see what he could do for fantasy. I know our guy Scott Barrett had him in his draft plan. He scores you two touchdowns on the ground, which was great.
Starting point is 01:11:32 I think he had one called back at one point, too. Yeah, but then he scored right after it. Okay. Yeah, his helmet's flopping off and all kinds of stuff. But what are your thoughts on Jaden Daniels here? Gives you a buck 84 as a passer, 88 yards and two touchdowns on the ground. That's where he's going to make his hay for fantasy. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I mean, a lot of promising stuff for fantasy, you know, need to see more throwing the football. Spread it around a little bit too much is another super spreader offense. I mean, McLaren was a big disappointment for sure. But I just don't know how we're going to make it through a whole year. I mean, I don't know how many times this helmet. came off during the game. He scored with a helmet off, I believe. He was there taking some hits and they're not going to have a good running game. So on one hand, yeah, he ran like a deer, just like we thought, shades of RG3 on one run. But on the other hand, I just, I do worry that
Starting point is 01:12:30 he's not going to make it throughout the whole year. You better have a good backup quarterback for sure. It's funny, the top two of the top three fantasy quarterbacks at the time of our recording were in this game jaden daniels number three and baker mayfield was number two in fantasy scoring uh quickly again on the uh commandos brian robinson 12 carries for 40 yards and a touchdown but he's gonna get bogarded by daniels a ton this year as long as daniels is healthy but how about daniels checking it down to eight times to the running backs with seven reception that was surprising oh hey we'll take it if you're a brian robinson owner or eckler squeezing him in a deep deep lineup by he's Yeah, Zach Gertz, three for 28, Luke McCaffrey, three for 18, Terry McClure, two for 17.
Starting point is 01:13:17 You got to throw four more balls, four balls to McLaren and you're losing the whole game? Yeah, that's odd. This is an odd. It's, you know, the horizontal raid from Cliff Kingsbury. But, yeah, if you got Jane Niels, you just put them out there, you close your eyes and you'll look at the numbers at the end of the day because it's never going to be pretty. For the Buccaneers, Baker Mayfield, really great day for Baker. of 30, 289 yards passing and four touchdowns. Found Mike Evans for a pair.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Mike Evans just continues to get it done. Five for 61 in the two scores. Godwin has eight for 83 and a score. And Jalen McMillan only catches one ball, but it's for a 32 yard touchdown. So awesome day for Baker. Man, yeah, I should have had Baker higher. I mean, I could have had him lower.
Starting point is 01:14:03 I've had him at like 17, but I wish I had him higher, obviously, because I did like Mike Evans a lot. he was my number one prop today thank god well actually i guess he caught another ball there i oh no yeah it was over four and a half had he not caught that at that last touchdown at the end and which they only threw it to him because they couldn't freaking run it in i would have lost that uh so that was great i was very high on godwin this year as we discussed a million times couldn't couldn't understand the adp being being as low as it was i was still on rsad white and he looked great in the passing game but man
Starting point is 01:14:39 He had a couple of runs that were okay. 15-yard are looked good, but man, still way too many carries with no gain. And, you know, all of a sudden here comes Bucky Irving. So I think White's going to be fine, but he's clearly not going to be the Belcal that he was last year. No, Bucky Irving got nine carries for 62 yards. Another waiver wire guy possibly, just stash him, see what happens down the road. McMillan could have scored another touchdown, by the way. I don't know if you saw that.
Starting point is 01:15:09 He kind of think he dropped it. Oh, I like him, too. He's going to be a player. Yeah, he's good, man. I start him in a 14-team skank league myself. If, hey, if you had Jordan Love and you need a quarterback for the next month, Baker Mayfield, I'm sure he's available in most of your leagues. You know, the schedule's okay.
Starting point is 01:15:29 It's not great the next few weeks. Next week he gets the Lions. Then he's got the Broncos at home. and then he's home against the Philadelphia Eagles to end September. Not bad. Not bad if you're looking to fill things up with Baker. So we didn't get a chance to talk about that Eagles Packers game. Just any thoughts coming out of that since it was a Friday night game?
Starting point is 01:15:51 And you know, Jordan, or excuse me, Jordan Love goes down. We're going to probably be without him for a month or so. Man, I mean, it was brutal. I thought the Eagles secondary overall did a pretty good job. Defense are good. I mean, I kind of was joking. I tweeted, uh, Vic Fangio's already fixed the Eagles defense. I was, I was not totally serious. My point was
Starting point is 01:16:13 was they look really good compared to a complete disaster. You know what I mean? Like if this is how they look in the first half, like he probably will fix them, you know. Now I, I do notice though that the pass rush was not there, you know, but, but they're going to play together as a team and, and, and, you know, and, give themselves a chance as opposed to last year it was a good week of analysis a j brown we loved he crushed it um i was high i was in on barclay this year he was one on my one of my targets got her let me down i lost that damn prop by a couple yards skinny batman did his normal thing jacobs was a little up and down but he's going to have to get the ball now jaden reed i wish i was more in on because i loved them last year this year i thought you know but and then my other big takeaway is i are
Starting point is 01:17:05 already regret giving love to christian watson which is saying something because he freaking scored and he was all over the place but he he has not cleaned up his game just yet it's a little sloppy only one game and of course now jordan love is out so green bay they're kind of a mess right now well for everybody out there who's got jaden reed and you've got christian watson and these guys i don't you can't start these guys with malic willis no god no god even if they get ryan tannihill in there i know everyone's like like oh, Tanahill would come and say, right? Ryan Daniels stinks. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:37 There's a reason he's not playing in the NFL right now. No, I would take him, though. I'd take him over Willis. Yeah, I would take, just run the Wildcat over Willis at this point. The guy's been there for 10 minutes. He doesn't know the offense. They just traded for Malik Willis. Geez, Louise.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Two weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. So, all right, well, that's week one. Any other big takeaways? Anything you want to impress upon the Fantasy Points Nation out there? Well, I mean, we should disclose. We are wrapping a podcast up.
Starting point is 01:18:04 basically with a couple of minutes ago and the Sunday night affair, which is yet another buzzkill for fantasy. But I do see James and Williams made a play. So that's an encouraging sign. Jamir Gibbs only has two touches. So we'll see what the hell's going on there. But no, no shock that it's Pookin Cup. Nothing yet from Blake Corum. Colby Parkinson has made an appearance here, you know, but nothing going on with the ram running game. But you know, it's week one. We're try not to overreact, but you know, it's just kind of like the preseason for a lot of teams. You know, a lot of teams aren't playing their guys. So it's a little bit of a rough week.
Starting point is 01:18:44 But overall, I thought, I thought it was pretty good. A lot of the guys that I was pumping up here on the podcast, you know, showed promise, not all, but overall pretty good. But week one was a little rough. Yeah, John and I'll be back later in the week looking towards, man, week two. We're already into it, brother. We just got done talking drafts. And now it's like, all right, we're in the week two.
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