Fantasy Football Daily - Fantasy Relevant 2025 NFL Rookie Class Player Comparisons You Won't Want To Miss

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

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For me, it's sort of like a, this player is new to the league. He doesn't necessarily have to play exactly like a previous NFL player. But it's still something that dynasty managers, regular redraft managers, and just general NFL fans want to know. My team draft somebody. Who does he play like in the league right now? or historical comparison. So there's nobody better in the business than yourself

when it comes to this sort of thing. You have watched every single game of every single prospect at this point. And we're going to go with your comparisons. Mine are somewhat film-based and somewhat vibes-based for the fantasy managers out there. My sort of feeling of the fantasy outcome for these players. Brett, how excited are you to talk about some player comps? Do you like player comps?

No. No. So, no, I like. I call them style comps for me. When I'm watching a player inherently, I'll see somebody else when I'm watching them. So that's usually what I roll with. I don't do the whole ceiling floor thing.

I also don't do this. Like a lot of people, all their comps are just based on body types and athletic profiles. They're not actually skill based or anything like that. So I don't do those comps either. It's for me, it's just like, hey, when I watch X, he reminds me of Y or vice versa. Well, I'm going to try to get the hype machine going,

try to get the people excited about these prospects and you're going to keep them grounded with the actual in the lab type comparison. So hopefully it's a nice mix for you in fantasy or the real tape grinder is out there. Brett, you have a prospect guy dropping. This has been a huge project you've undertaken. It's absolute fire.

Let everybody know a little more about it. Yeah, it drops while we're recording this on a Wednesday and it's supposed to drop today. We'll see if I get it out today, guys. I'm up against the wire here working. I'm literally burning the candle at both ends. It takes me a while because I refuse to write up a prospect that I haven't watched every snap of.

And so as you can bet, that's a laborious process, Dio. Yeah. That drops on fantasy points.com. Here's the thing. It's not, you don't need to pay for it. It's free. And I don't know why it's free.

I feel like we should charge for that. But hey, man, the other owners in the company say it's free. And so you just need a login. Just go to fantasy points.com. register your email address with us and you get access to it. Free. It's absolutely free. It's going to help you crush your dynasty leagues. It's going to help you find those early values on games like underdog. This is something you really, really want to dive into.

And Brett and I are going to continue dropping pods like this throughout April, getting you ready to crush the NFL draft. We've got some very cool announcements coming up about our NFL draft coverage right here at Fantasy Points. We're going to have the best fantasy-related NFL draft coverage in the entire industry. That's going to be a lot of fun. Brett, let's talk about this a little bit.

Before we dive into the NFL player comparisons, let's talk a little bit about the things we're hearing, the things we're seeing, and the way the market seems to be shifting with the actual NFL draft. Are we looking at two quarterbacks off the board at one and two? And do you anticipate the Tennessee Titans are keeping that number one overall pick

and selecting Shadar Sanders or Cam Ward. I've always anticipated that personally. It never made sense for me to see a QB needy team trade back so another QB needy team can take a QB. I've never understood that proposition. So yes, I think things are coming full circle here and I love it. Tennessee Titans absolutely should take a quarterback. Whatever.

Any of the three that I like, go ahead and take one of them. It looks like it's going to be Cam Ward. I actually, I think in the middle of the night last night, was it Palisaro, I think it was Palisarro, stated that it looks more and more like Cam Ward will be the number one overall pick in the draft. So that lines up perfectly with Shadur Sanders going too, because I have some Cleveland people that have told me they like Shadur. He fits the Kevin Stafansky offense perfectly.

So everything's kind of starting to make the sense that I put out there, you know, like a month and a half ago, it feels like it's finally coming around. They're actually perfect landing spots for these two quarterbacks because they are so quarterback needy. With Tennessee, they've been looking for that long-term answer. They thought that maybe they had it with Will Levis. Will Levis teased everyone with that incredible game one performance. And then it's sort of been all downhill sense. And when it comes to Cleveland, sort of the stain of the Deshawn Watson era hanging over their heads,

they're like, this is a fan base that would completely embrace Shardar Sanders, and the bar wouldn't be set to a point that he'd have to be Jaden Daniels. He just would have to be a good version of Shadurr Sanders. So I think those two make complete sense. The New York Giants might get left holding the bag once again. There's some James Winston to New York, bridge quarterback rumors, which isn't the worst thing for Malik neighbors. But another thing we're starting to see is we've both been on the QBGO's number one.

bandwagon for a long time here. A lot of people push that Abdul Carter at number one thing. We never were there, Brett. But Cam Ward shoulder Sanders go one, two. Okay. Jackson Dart is starting to get projected to be selected inside the top 10 overall picks. I think the writing's on the wall that like you've been saying for over a year, maybe a year and a half now, Brett, we've been doing this a while.

The Jackson Dart is going to be a high NFL draft pick. Do you think this is some sort of a mystery team? type comes in the mix for Dart. Do you have a team that you're circling? I'm just going to throw out there. There's some rumblings that the LA Rams might make a move to get a, make a splashy move in this draft. I talked about them potentially moving up for a Tyler Warren, a Colston Loveland. Could there be a scenario where they identify Dart as a luxury pick that they need to push the chips in as the Matt Stafford eventual replacement? Who are you seeing and anticipated will, we'll, we'll be. be in the mix for a guy like Dart. Yeah, but I think the Rams are a great call. What's crazy is there's

so many landing spots. Just go through this, this first round draft order with me. Number three overall of the Giants. Is there a more Brian Daibble quarterback in the draft than Jackson Dart? I don't think there is. Big arm with an athletic profile. He's the most athletic key. Well, sorry, Jalen Millrow is the most athletic. But Jackson, Darr, among the top guys is the most athletic. He can, he can kind of facilitate that dable runoffence, but then you just go down the list. You have the Raiders at 6. They know they just did Gino. Gino's 35 years old.

That's not, that would not be crazy for them to still take a quarterback. The Jets at 7. The Fields deal was only a two-year deal. It's really actually only a one-year deal. New Orleans Saints at 9. We saw, was it Mel Kuiper, Mark Jackson Dart to the New Orleans Saints yesterday. You have the San Francisco 49-0.11, I think, our really good landing spot for Jackson Dart.

Brock Purdy in the last year was contract. not sure we want to pay him $50, $55 million a year. The Dallas Cowboys at 12. You get what I'm saying? There are so many spots here. It's unbelievable 18 to Seattle. The Sam Darnel deal turns out that's actually a one-year deal as well, even though it's three at $100 million.

They can get out after one year. And then you have Pittsburgh at 21. But those teams there, 18 and 21. If Jackson Dart is hanging around right before those picks, I think that's when you start to see a team like L.A., as you're saying, come up and make a move for a guy like Jackson Dart. But I, there's so many landing spots here where, you know, yes, it's, it's always made sense that that Jackson Dart was going to go in the first round.

I can't believe it's taken this long for people to come around to it. Yeah. And I think if he slips just a little bit outside the top 10, it sort of opens up a window for some teams to make that move up. So Dart, dart's super interesting. A lot of those landing spots make total sense. Maybe this is the, the trajectory of Sam Donald's career. that he just goes and kind of is a seat warmer for a younger quarterback to take over,

maybe JJ McCarthy this year, and then it'll be Jackson Dart the following year, and then so on. Darnel can just keep going around making $30 million a year, not a bad living. You mentioned Pittsburgh. Another rumor floating around, and there's some steam with this one. The Pittsburgh is a team that seems like they've been sitting back a little bit at the quarterback spot. we saw the Justin Fields allowed to sort of move on. Fields, I think, would have been happy to return to Pittsburgh.

That didn't happen. Russell Wilson is looking like he's going to move on. Certainly, that's a fallback option for Pittsburgh if everything falls apart. But Aaron Rogers, I don't know what's going on there. It doesn't seem to me like that's a done deal. At the couple weeks ago, during the beginning of free agency, it seemed like to me, Aaron Rogers is writing on the wall. he's the Pittsburgh Steelers starting quarterback. Now we find out that the entire coaching staff, the entire front office is meeting with Jalen Milro. There's a little bit of, a little bit of, it seems like interest from Pittsburgh when it comes to Milro.

We heard this earlier in the draft process. It would make a little bit of sense. They're sitting there at a range where maybe they could potentially even trade back slightly and draft Milro. Where are you out on that sort of fit? They have George Pickens. they have D.K. Meckaff, two huge outside wide receivers who can both get downfield. Mill row in that offense is sort of interesting.

Yeah, you know, they do have pick 83 and pick 122. No, there you go. There you go. You could also trade back. You could trade back. You mentioned that the second round pick was traded for D.K. Meckaff. So that's off the board.

So they can trade. Right. Don't they have two? Is it two second round picks? I could be mistaken on this one. But just your thoughts on the fit potentially of Jill and Milrow, or this could be a developmental quarterback where they draft him and then they still bring in the bridge quarterback,

which is probably the best route. Yeah, all kidding aside, the fact that Pittsburgh's kind of pivoted to Milrow pretty heavily, it seems like, kind of also confirms that Dart is going to go before 21 because I think that that'd be the obvious choice for them if Dart were there. So the fact that they're showing this much interest in another quarterback, I think they've also talked to Tyler Shuck as well. So they're looking at options because they're not thinking the other three will be there, obviously.

So no, in this, I mean, dude, Milro, he's a better player than Desmond Ritter. And we saw Desmond Ritter kind of hap, hap, a little bit. I'm tongue twisting today, Theo, but we saw Desmond Ritter run the Arthur Smith offense very poorly. I think Milrow could do a better job in that offense than Ritter did. You know, the fact that he's got D.K. Metcalfe. and George Pickens is also a huge win for for any quarterback fall into that situation. I think Rogers should be all in trying to go there, not Minnesota, but I don't know, I don't know what he's thinking.

So, yeah, Milro, it would be fun. The rushing upside would be huge. And then he's got the big towers outside to throw to. Yeah, and I just double check that one, Brett. They pick at 21 and then not again until 83. So a potential tradeback team regardless of what they do at quarterback just to reaccumulate another pick. Pittsburgh is always a team that gets a lot of attention in the off season. And this year or more so, Tyler Shuck, man, that's just not going to get anybody excited, though. Shuck is a,

I guess a young bridge quarterback. Stranger things have happened. But hey, listen, this is the silly season where we're, what's that? You just call him young. I called him a young, sort of a younger bridge quarterback in the sense he's younger than a Russell Wilson. He's 25, 20, 20. 25 years old, but still younger in the sense. A lot of these bridge quarterbacks are older guys. So he'll be, guys, he'll be 26 the entirety of his rookie season. I think he turns 26 week two, which is crazy. Listen, the guy was in college like eight years.

So we'll see. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we're talking about player comps for the 2025 rookie class. We'll be back in a minute. This Giving Tuesday, Cam H is counting on your support. Together, we can forge a better path for mental health. by creating a future where Canadians can get the help they need when they need it,

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We're trying to find stylistic comparisons, tape comparisons, and general fantasy football vibes comparisons. Draft Capital is going to factor in a little bit for a lot of these guys. And really, this is a fun process. If you want to hear our dream landing spots, Brett and I talked about the best possible landing spots for some of the best players in 2025 draft class. That podcast just dropped.

Make sure you subscribe to Fantasy Football Daily for podcasts like this. multiple times a week. We're dropping fire right here at fantasy points all offseason long. Let's talk about the player everybody wants to hear about. The chosen one. Ashton Genty, going to be the number one pick in every single dynasty draft. It's going to be a first round pick in your redraft leagues, guys. As soon as Ashton Genty has his name called, he's going to steam up in the first round on underdog, on FFPC, wherever you play fantasy football, because this guy has a lot of traits. He checks off every single box. and Brett, it looks more and more likely that he's going to get top 10 NFL draft capital.

Who does he remind you of that's played in the NFL either today or historically? Yeah, I think the first time I said this, it was unique thought process. Now everyone's saying it, so it's kind of everyone's kind of come around. It's Ladanian Tomlinson. Very similar, even the way they're built. I think technically Gentie, you know, weighed in a little less than LTs, 220 or whatever. but the way they're built even just looks similar. You know, Gentia has these huge biceps, big chest and then big legs, really thin waist.

That's exactly how LT was built. But the way they move is so similar, the burst and the, they both have this crazy jump cut that could totally displace linebackers in the open field. I, you know, the contact balance, everything about it. The way they catch the football, they just look identical to me. It's kind of weird. Yeah, I mean, when you think about Lidney and Tomlinson, to me, it's how smooth he was. how fluid he was, how good he was doing sort of everything. And he was just an ATM machine for us in fantasy football.

I had the same one because when you're going genty, you might as well swing for the fences. Barry Sanders one has been out there. I think that's really become a popular one because of the, they're almost exactly the same size. But I think for me, it's a Ledanyan one makes a lot more sense. I'm going to throw out another one, Ray Rice.

And Ray Rice is one where people don't like, love hearing that because, of course, his career ended on something bad off the field. But when we talk about Ray Rice on the field, Ray Rice was awesome for fantasy football. He had a 20-point season. He had a 23-point season. He had an RB1 overall finish. He had an RB2 overall finish in points per game and an RB4 overall finish. And when we look at the size comparison, Ray Rice was very similarly built. Ray Rice was 5-8-212. They both had that very, very strong frame. weight room type guys. For me, Ray Rice is another comparison.

What do you think of that one? Yeah, I think that's a good one. I mean, when I watch Gentie, I feel like the weight distribution is more similar to LT than Rice. Rice had, I mean, he was so lower half heavy. I mean, it was crazy. But I see like that same kind of smoothness, the way he could be used in the past game.

I could see that with, you know, the Ray Rice comp for sure. do we have a just a kind of pour cold water on things is there a low end comp that might not get the people going as much when you say tomlin when you say tomlinson that's you know ceiling comp for it's a realistic one but it's still a ceiling comp. I don't do the floor ceiling thing. This is me like I see LT when I watch him. A lot of my comps are very favorable comps in general because it's like you know like I'm I guess best case scenarioing. in a way, but it's, yeah, so I don't, I haven't really thought about a floor comp. Me neither. That's why I asked.

And I'll think, I'll say like the way you're looking at things, Brett, and I think this is a good one for dynasty managers, for redraft managers, draft managers. Draft like you're correct. If you see a guy and you're optimistic about his profile, you don't win dynasty leagues. You don't win redraft leagues by trying to be safe and just taking the guy that you think, hey, this guy is not going to, not going to be bad. Maybe I'm going to get some low end RB2 production out of. of them and just sort of, you know, trip my way through my fantasy league.

You want to swing for the fences. And I think when it comes to the comparisons, I think you take an optimistic approach. I think that's sort of the way to do it. Let's keep this going at the running back spot. A guy who's catching up Dash and Genty in the Dynasty marketplace and certainly could catch up to him in the redraft marketplace, depending on when his name is called on draft night, is Omari in Hampton. We talked about him in our dream landing spots, go. We both are kind of head over heels over him as our RB2 in this class. Where are you at with Hampton in terms of what you see from him in terms of an NFL comparison? This might age me a little bit.

And I can't take credit for this comp. Joe Dolan, actually, editor-in-chief here at Fantasy Points is the one who put me on this comp, and I can't unsee it. It's Deuce McAllister, former New Orleans Saints running back. I think the thing that really reminds me, each other is I wrote in Hampton's prospect profile, which will come out this week, that he runs like a Viking warrior in battle. And the way he approaches second level defenders and the way he has all these different set up techniques, it's like he's in battle and he's trying to cut as many

men down as he can. It's very aggressive. It's very off-putting. It's very intimidating. It's kind of crazy. And so like he's he's like a Viking berserker out there. He's looking to take heads off. that's how Deuce McAllister ran. He was a violent, just mean, intimidating dude, but he had the smoothness to him that Hampton has where it's like, you know, you think you're about to be on a collision with Hampton, then all of a sudden he changed the angle on you at the last second

and you're like grasping at his shoe laces, you know? I can't unsee the comp. Every time I come back to try to figure out a different one, it's not there. Also, McAllister was known for his burst, like incredible burst to size ratio. and that's Hampton all the way. That's like his most, I think his best trait is that acceleration for his size.

Well, I'll age myself, but I'll age myself a little bit, a little bit more recent. And this is not, obviously these guys are different. But when we look at the athletic traits, David Johnson and Omari and Hampton have very similar size. Johnson was 224. That's right around where Hampton's weighing in at. they're both over six feet tall. Hampton was actually faster in the 40, but Johnson was a guy we would consider to be an elite athlete. He had a 109 speed score. Hampton's a little bit above that.

But when we talk about Hampton, this is a guy with the receiving pedigree, where if a team says, I want to use him as a receiver out of the backfield, he could easily have 50 plus receptions as a rookie with room to run into the 60s. At UNC, he had receiving production for back-to-back seasons. And when we talk about David Johnson, we look back at that one magical season in fantasy football where he had 25 points per game. Hampton, that's a lofty comparison.

But with his two-way ability, his size, you talked about the ability as a runner, Johnson had over 2,000 combined yards that season. Hampton had over 2,000 yards from scrimmage at UNC last year, back-to-back seasons with 1,500-plus rushing yards. I think the potential for him to be an elite weapon in fantasy football, sort of like a Johnson, is there. Your thoughts on that one, it's a little bit out there, Brett.

No, it's not that out there. The thing with David Johnson is he had wide receiver in his background. And so, I mean, shoot, the Cardinals literally lined him up in the slot and just said, go, go beat this linebacker. Well, he had like 100 catches that year, didn't he? Yeah, he went bonkers. It was like 1,200 plus rushing yards, and he had like 900 receiving yards. It was one of the best fantasy seasons ever.

It was insane. And it was a lot of it was, I think he had like 30 plus catches out of the slot as like an actual receiver. So I don't see Hampton necessarily getting that usage right now. Maybe he develops into that. But he's definitely really good in the past game. So I can see the comp for sure. Yeah, that's a really, really fun one. Let's stay at the running back spot.

Trayvion Henderson, who's if we had to bet on another running back to sneak into the first round, that's sort of been the guy that we've seen. circled because NFL teams are chasing that big playability. They're chasing the Jamir Gibbs profile. Henderson, I think, you know, on the show sheet, we're going to skip your first, your first comp, but maybe we'll go with the second comp. Who's the one that you see when you see Trayvianne Henderson? I see DeAndre Swift.

You know, and I'm not talking that's current iteration of DeAndre Swift that we have. I'm talking about the DeAndre Swift that got drafted 35th overall. That's who I'm talking about. Just elite burst. when you watch the Under Swift at Georgia, it was like shot out of a cannon all the time, even if his 40 time wasn't necessarily incredible, didn't matter because he got to top speed so freaking fast. And that's Henderson to me. And I think Henderson's 40 time may have actually disappointed some people, but I'm not worried about it at all. I think he's a home run hitter.

He's absolutely twitched up, explosive playmaker. And what's funny is he has a lot of this similar make you miss qualities as DeAndre Swift, where kind of an abnormal amount of yards after contact for the body type. And then I also have some serious toughness concerns with Trayvian Henderson, which I also had with DeAndre Swift. So there's a lot of reasons these guys remind me of each other. But hopefully things go better for Henderson than they have for Swift. Yeah.

And that's one where people are going to say like groan and be like Brett's a hater. But when we go back to DeAndre Swift, it's a little bit of recency bias in the way people are looking at that comp. DeAndre Swift was awesome when he was a rookie. awesome in year two. In year two, DeAndre Swift average 16 points per game. That was running back eight on the year. As a rookie, he was nearly an RB1, average 14.6 points per game. And he had 10 touchdowns as a rookie. So the thing with Swift is he always missed a little bit of time. Then he ends up in Philadelphia and the receiving sort of disappeared. But he had a 62 reception season in year two, Brett. So for me,

that's a really fun one when you talk about Henderson. If it was a DeAndre Swift plays every single game those two years, he would have scored even more fantasy points. For me, when we go with Trayvion Henderson, it's not a perfect comp, but I think the way that NFL teams are going to try to use him is Jemir Gibbs. I think you see some of the burst there, the big playability. Henderson led the Big Ten in yards per carry.

Of course, this is a guy that's been explosive with the ball in his hands as a receiver. and the reception total numbers are not as high as some of the other prospects in this class, but he has immense potential as a receiver in the NFL. You've talked about this over and over again. And when it comes to teammate target competition, a lot of guys at Ohio State that were drafted that are going to be drafted or were drafted that he played alongside up. So it's apples and oranges when you're comparing him to a guy like, you know,

I don't know, Woody Marks or Bradshaw Smith, those kind of guys. LeQuint Dalen. Think about it. Like he had over 100 catches the last, what, two years? Or no, last. Yes. So it's some crazy astronomical number. I think Henderson's a way more, you know,

he projects as a way better pass catcher at the NFL level than La Quay Allen. Throw out one other potential player that's known for his big playability, Aaron Jones and his two-way ability. What do you think of that one? I love that comp. You know, I went with the Swift comp, but I didn't think of Jones myself, but thinking about it now. I could see that for sure. Jones is a guy.

I was huge on. I had a second round grade on him when he was coming out, actually. You very much see that. I mean, and again, you know, there's a little recency bias where I think people, you know, some of the life has been sapped out of Jones's legs, but you go back to his prime time at Green Bay. That dude was explosive as hack, man. And he had that kind of slashing vibe that Henderson has where he's racked up yards after contact despite the kind of slender build. So I think that's, I think it's a really good come.

we only need to go back to the Dallas game. Green Bay's win on the road in Dallas and the 2023 NFL playoffs. Just to, you know, when you want to see peak Aaron Jones, just completely slashed the throat of the Dallas Cowboys defense. Did it again the next week against San Francisco. So Jones, for me, like, that's a good comp. I think people want to be head over heels with where these guys end up when they like them in the fantasy football community,

certainly dynasty managers. But if you get an Aaron Jones outcome for Trayvion, Henderson, that's a massive win for your dynasty team, for your redraft team. Keep this one going. Let's go with Caleb Johnson. Caleb Johnson, of course, is ran in the lower four-fives, four-five, eight-40 at the combine. This is a guy where I have him as my RB5 in this class. Still high on Caleb Johnson. I just think he's more likely a late second round pick than a guy who's probably going to go in that early second. When it comes to Caleb, who do you see? Yeah, I wrote down James Connor. I don't think this is a unique take either. I think there's a lot of people that kind of see

the Connor thing. But yeah, I mean, just physical battering ram style runner. Like he is a, he's an animal. He's not a guy that's going to really press the corners and win the corner as a is an outside zone player. But that's totally fine. Get him in the right system. He's going to eat. But just that downhill, you know, break tackles by force kind of mentality. I think that's Caleb. Johnson all the way. And that's who James Connor was. He's probably a better athlete than James Connor even. But I'm not only doing that because of the athleticism concerns. I just, I, they remind me a lot of each other. I think your comp's a good one too, though. Yeah. And for me, it's David Montgomery. And I think that's actually the nuts spot where Caleb Johnson,

let's say, Gentie goes off the board to, let's say, Vegas or your dream landing spot of New England and just melt faces on draft night. Chicago waits in the second round. They've got that picks that are essentially back to back, 39, 41. Caleb Johnson ends up in the Ben Johnson offense. Imagine David Montgomery, the last two years, if there was no Jemir Gibbs, maybe he gets 10% more or 15% more touches. That could be Caleb Johnson. I think that could be a really good outcome.

Let's go Quinshawn Judkins. Who are you seeing for him? Joe Mixon. Just the smoothness to his game, the acceleration and the burst to his game. it's it's they're they're carbon clones to me like they look identical on the field um the past catching upside too i think judkins for a bigger back people are underselling his his past catching upside he's also fantastic and past pro which is something mixing was was good at coming out as well he gets out i think judkins comes in and gets on the field as a three down player like right away which isn't true

for everyone in this class so um yeah i see i see joe mixon and you know what i really can't do better than that one. Joe Mixon won makes so much sense. And anybody goes back to the Joe Mixin, Oklahoma days, just the well-rounded nature of his game and Judkins as well. Cody Carpenter, who we podcasted with a number of times, also has brought up the Quintzhan Judkins taking a huge leap forward as a receiver at the NFL level, something he definitely wasn't asked to do at Ohio State, but very, very capable of it. And the athleticism we saw at the Combine also compares favorably to a Joe Mixon. Let's wrap. up running backs with one of your favorite guys in the class.

Actually, you know what? We'll save this one. Let's take a quick break. And when we come back, Brett's going to talk about R.J. Harvey, his RB3 in this class. Ontario, the wait is over. The gold standard of online casinos has arrived. Golden Nugget online casino is live. Bringing Vegas-style excitement and a world-class gaming experience right to your fingertips.

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We're talking about R.G. Harvey, a player that we've been higher on at Fantasy Points than pretty much any other site. Brett's had Harvey as his RB3. I have Harvey as my RB6. Where are you at in who you see when you're thinking and you're like this guy looks like this NFL comparison wise on film? Yeah, this one might be pretty lofty, but I don't care. Maurice Jones drew.

I can't unsee it. It's not just the short thing. Like RJ Harvey is 5.7. So there's that right. But it's the, I would call it class best contact balance. I don't think there's a back in the class with better contact balance than RJ Harvey. And then you pair that with lightning quick feet, like ridiculous feet. The way he runs, he keeps his feet really close underneath his hips.

It gives him the ability to explode in multiple directions at any given point in time. He's got some fantastic moves in the open field like MJD. And then you have that angle breaking speed where it's like he can get on you so fast that your pursuit angle is going to be completely destroyed. I thought that was something MJD was good at. And then even though he's only 5-7 with a short catch radius, past game aficionado. Like this guy, there isn't a running back in the class with a better route running resume than RJ Harvey.

And the way he was used at UCF as a downfield receiver is unbelievable. It kind of reminds me a little bit of Ray Davis last year, actually. And Ray, another short king, you know, that these wheel routes and these seam routes as a running back. like these are these are not typical routes for running backs to be running at the college level and harvey had you know just last year had five or six of these catches for 20 plus yards i mean very very nice in the past game mjd was also very good of the past game yeah i i love that one i mean morris jones drew would would be an unbelievable outcome for harvey i'll go a little bit more uh low end he's like a a better faster version of jalen warren and a lot of the the ways he plays for me. And I think that's a positive. When we go with Warren on a per touch basis, Warren's been really good. He's averaged over four and a half yards per carry multiple seasons. He has an RB2 finish. He's sort of been a committee guy. I think when it comes to Harvey, the college production was insane and the athleticism is well ahead of Warren. Warren was an

undrafted guy, but because he was a four or five five at as a smaller back. With Harvey, he's, he's got blazing speed. And also, I think he's stronger can handle. more volume. So that's sort of a low end comp. So we're both really high on RJ Harvey and I think we'll continue to be this is a guy that is going to go higher in the NFL draft than a lot of

people in fantasy football are projecting him to go. Another guy that's steaming up, facial tutin, this is one where melted faces athletically. This is sort of the running back who went nuts at the combine has certainly moved up my rankings.

I know we're working on our rookie rankings constantly at fantasy points. And I had to move Bachel Tutin up because I'm realistic. This guy's going to be a day two pick. And this is sort of like you've said, the arbitrage play on a Trayvion Henderson. He's got that explosiveness. He's got that big play home run hitting ability.

Your thoughts on a comparison, current or former NFL player for Bachel Tootin. Yeah, I'll throw two names out there. One was Felix Jones. Felix Jones coming out of Arkansas. he was the other first round drafted running back from Arkansas that same year. Right, he was first round, wasn't he? Yeah, Felix Jones.

It was first round running back. Darren McFadden and Felix Jones, same class. Yeah, which is kind of, you know, Quinchon, Judd kids, and Trayvion and Henderson potentially this year. But yeah, so that Felix Jones was a track star, even at Arkansas. He ran track at Arkansas. And so you see that explosive burst and just long speed. That's just crazy. Tuton has that.

I think for a current player, I think, think he's closer to do it to a jimier gibbs from a play style standpoint than a um travion henderson tuton is for one just he actually has the angle eroding speed where i think henderson's burst is elite but i don't think he has quite that top gear that Gibbs and tutin have and then also tune is a he's an angry sucker he runs with some legit authority he will pop his pads also similar to jimir gibbs like gibbs will finish runs and put guys on their ass where it's not really something that Van Henderson does. So I see Gibbs a little bit more. Now, obviously, he's not near the caliber prospect Gibbs was. I'm talking strictly. They remind me of each other. I think, I think the real

only thing with Tutin that's kind of knocking him down a lot of boards is he's got ball security issues, like massively, had a lot of drops and fumbles. And then he's, he doesn't get the most out of that speed because he doesn't have great vision, where that's also not something you could say about Jimir Gibbs. Gibbs's vision is elite. Trayvian Henderson's vision is elite. So I do, I do, I do, think there's it's not necessarily a one to one but as far as like that explosive big play potential I think he lines up with where jimier gives is that pretty well yeah and i'll go with a comp that that might elicit some groans from some fantasy managers because this is a guy that was drafted like there was a year where c j spiller was the 101 in some redraft leagues because he had

this insane season average 16 points per game uh went nuts and then the next year people wanted more and he regressed down to like 10 or 11 points per game. Still had 900 rushing yards in that season. But CJ Spiller, I think in today's NFL might have been used differently, might have had a little bit longer shelf life in terms of fantasy viability. For me, it's like they're both extremely fast. Spiller lighter, but the big playability, the high value touch nature of Spillers game, like this could be it with Tootin.

How about that one, Brett? Galaxy Brained or are we in the same? wheelhouse. No, you're in the same wheelhouse. You know, Spiller and Reggie Bush both were born 10 years too early. You know, they're born 10 years later. We're talking about absolute fantasy superstars. And Reggie had a couple good years. I'm not saying he didn't, but yeah, I don't mind it. All right. Well, I think we wrapped up, we wrapped up running back, unless there was one of the running back that's on your mind right now that you want to share a comp.

Yeah, let's go Cam Scataboo. Oh, yeah, we got Scataboo. He's buried on the sheet. The utter disrespect I continue to show to Cam. Scatabot. Let's talk about him here. Yeah. So I really wanted to talk about this one, too, because I think if we're both lower on Scataboo than I think the community is, and that's okay. You know, we maybe we're wrong on that. I don't know. But I think if things are to go well for Scataboo in the NFL, it's because my comp for him comes to fruition. And that's Kareem Hunt. You talk about contact balance. That was Kareem Hunt's game. Kareem Hunt made a living early on. He's not a very athletic guy, was not a good athlete, has really no burst to speak of no top gear but the contact balance was so insane he it's really hard to get him on the

ground he forces mistackles at a crazy high rate always dragging dudes for extra yards scataboo has that he his contact balance is incredible he is willing to put his face in a fan and run through people i i actually do see this one a little bit of david montgomery as well i know you already use montgomery as a comp but he's some combo of kareem hunt in montgomery and i actually think I see what you wrote on the sheet here. I actually think he's probably a faster version of Cream Hunt. Well, we're never going to know because, I mean, I know you could, we can watch the film. And scataboo, let's let's say, let's say, put it like this.

I'll give a compliment to Scatibo. I'm not trying to be, you know, bring him down every time I talk about him. He's, he's faster with the pads on kind of guy. This guy, like we saw anybody who watched Arizona State, like he had an ability to get away from defenses, run away from defenders that he had big plays in his. his wheelhouse. So I'll give Joe Dolan, Joe Dolan, actually really good NFL comps guy, because Joe Dolan, I remember when we're at the senior bowl. And again, Cam Scadabo sat that one out. We didn't get to see him at the senior bowl, Brett. I know, like, whatever. Like, and then Big 12

Pro Day, we're not going to see him there either. So sometime we'd love to see Cam Scatibo, at least run a 40. I'll just throw that out there. But the, the Cream Hunt won. Slow. I wrote slow, slow, slow, slow, Kareem Hunt. So I'll say slower, Kadaabot, you think Scada bow might be faster. I'll say step slower. Kareem Hunt, that would be an upside comp. I think a low-end comp for me is another productive college runner,

not quite as productive as Camp Scadabo, but I'll say Tyler Al Jir, which is not the worst outcome. It would be direct handcuff. And not every Tyler Al Jare gets stuck behind Bejohn Robinson. Sometimes those guys get three, four years of running back shelf life. we saw Tyler Al Jare have a thousand rushing yards as a rookie. So for me, I'll continue to have Cam Scadabo like right around RB 10 to 12 range.

Some people have them higher. And I'll say it's funny, Brett, because I podcasted with a lot of people. Scott Barrett's higher on on Cam Scadabo than we are. I think he has him somewhere in his top six or seven. J.J. Zacharyson has him up there. I know the guys at RotoViz, who also were kind of model based in a lot of their evaluative process. They have him high up there. Dwayne McFarland has him high up there. So there's a lot of people who have Cam Skadabow higher than I do and certainly higher than you do.

We'll find out on we'll find out on day two of the NFL draft though, Brett. We'll find out where we're at, man. We can always adjust post draft. But Scatabu definitely a really, really fun one. Let's take a quick break. We come back. We're talking wide receivers and one of Brett Whitefield's favorite tight ends in the draft, Elijah Royal. Welcome back to Fantasy Points. Fantasy Football Daily. Make sure you subscribe. for the pod feed. We're crushing it multiple times a week right here at fantasy points. Brett, let's talk about it. Matthew Golden. Matthew Golden's the one where people are going through mental gymnastics now because

he ran a 42940 at the combine. And now people, it's like the gloves come out. Like, I cannot like the guy who ran the fastest 40. Let's find ways to poke holes in his game. Whereas I think heading into the combine, people were opening their mind more to Matthew Golden and starting to get a little excited about him. Now you're seeing a lot of people coming out trying to be negative towards the guy.

My wide receiver three in this class or wide receiver four for Count and Travis Hunter in there. Wide receiver three or wide receiver four in the class for me is Matthew Golden. It's been a guy that we've been high on for months. I remember talking to you about him at the senior bowl, how excited we were. Where are you at in terms of a comparison in the NFL now or in the past? Before I get to my comparison, I think it's funny. So you're right. people are trying to poke holes because the the time he ran at the combine is a death nail to success.

You know, it's funny because you don't prefer guys to be slower than they are. But like it is funny. When you look at the list of guys who have run that speed, there's no good players to you. There's one, Santana Moss. But I'm convinced they got him and Isaiah Bond's 40 time mixed up. Even because when I watch the tape, Isaiah Bond is significantly faster than Matthew Golden. So I don't know what was going on. There's actually a conspiracy out there.

Have you seen this conspiracy, Theo? The simulcast conspiracy with Bond and Golden? I have not seen the simulcast, but I will say that the Bond 40 makes zero sense because he had the highest miles per hour testing at the combat as well. He was like 24 miles per hour, which is truly insane. 24 miles per hour is absolutely nuts. It's J-M-M-H-3 kill territory.

It's insane. It's like, yeah. So go on. with your conspiracy theory. This is turning into a conspiracy theory podcast, guys. Yeah, I love it. It's not my conspiracy about it. I've just seen the chatter on X, but there's someone that snapped together the NFL network broadcast. And when they simulcasted Bond versus Worthy versus Golden, they started the Bond run late. You can go frame by frame and see that they start the Golden and Worthy runs. And then, sure

enough a few frames later bond starts and so that's really interesting like in because it doesn't make any sense that he would you know be a whole tenth of a second slower than matth unless he just he could have psyched himself up right because he did tell everyone he's going to break the record maybe he had a quarter of a bump and muscles were tightening up on him i don't know and i think that also that's another thing when and again we're talking golden too but when it comes to bond if he if he didn't tell everybody he was going to break the record um then this is one where I think the community would not be as punitive on him. If he said, I'm going to go out and be really fast,

and I think I'm a 4-35 guy, and he ran a 4-4-flat, maybe it'll be a little less, but he was so over the top saying he's going to break Xavier Worthy's record. Again, I'll reference the guys at Orange Bloods. So Orange Bloods is a site that covers Texas. Alex Dunlap and Cody Carpenter. They cover Texas football for Orange Bloods.

Cody has a theory that the guys who were training Bond were using the miles per hour, testing data on him so much that they were like correlating it saying you're going to run this 40 because you keep hitting 23 over close to 24 miles per hour and you know this is going to happen you're running so well so bond maybe thought in his head that because of the miles per hour data so that's another kind of theory out there within the Texas community because you're right bond flies and he flew it when he was in Alabama on Alabama as well it's like speed's always been his thing yeah well so I said all that Theo and I took a

down this rabbit hole to say that Matthew Golden doesn't play like a traditional 4-2 guy to me at all or even 4-3 flat guy. Like he is a he actually has detailed route running. And the problem with a lot of these really, really fast guys is that they don't develop those skills. They're fast.

At the college level, they just run past everybody. It doesn't matter, right? Well, Golden's a very detailed route runner. And it reminds me a lot of Tyler Lockett. That's my comp for him. Lockett was such a good route runner coming out. That's how he made a living in Seattle. And for a smaller body guy, he was insane with body control and body contortion.

And at the catch point. And you see that in Golden. Some of these highlight real boundary catches Golden have are crazy for a guy his size. And they remind me of Tyler Lockett. Like that's what Lockett did is recently as like last year. You know, I think he had a, what, Geneo Smith had like a five touchdown game and Lockett caught two of them in the back of the end zone that were both ridiculous. catches. So, like, that's, that's who he is to me. I, I, I, I, this is one of my favorite comps in the draft class. I'm very convicted that Matthew Golden equals Tyler Lockett.

And that would be, that's one that I wish I came up with, but I'll say that that's an unbelievable comp. And we talk about Tyler Lockett. You talk about a guy with a hundred catch season. You talk about a guy with multiple wide receiver 15 or better finishes and a wide, a couple wide receiver one finishes, all time Seattle Seahawk. Really, really, really, really fun comparison. right there for anybody listening at home. I'll go with one that's going to get people. Like, I don't want to go too crazy here. And I'll give a shout out to J.J. Zachariason,

who came on School of Scott, the podcast that I host with Scott Barrett right here on Fantasy Points. Make sure you're sure you're subscribed to that one. And you can go listen to the JJ one. It dropped last week. But JJ has two, like, statistical comparisons that would kind of get you like, that's not happening, JJ. But then he has one, one interesting comparison.

And it's the upside one in his model. It's Ladd McConkey. And then I start looking at it. And I'm like, Ladd McConkey last year, there were criticisms coming into the NFL draft about his lack of production. He only had like one year of big time production. And again, health was a thing. Like all sorts of criticisms with McConkey.

And then he melt faces. This was a guy that certainly we were not low on Brett, but there were some people sort of trying to find ways to fade him last year. When we look at the speed, 42940 for Matthew Golden, 43940 for Ladd-McConkey. We look at the size, 511-190 for Matthew Golden, Ladd-McConkey was 6 feet 186.

They both have 30-inch arms. These were both guys that didn't have the high amount of college production that some of the people they were competing with for the same draft slots did. Both came from big-time programs, both next-level athletes. So I'll just throw that one out there. You say Tyler Lockett, I'll throw Ladd-McConkie out there.

Thoughts on that one? From a route running standpoint and a suddenness standpoint that accelerate, yeah, I see that all day. I just think Golden's so good at the catch point. That's something we really didn't get to see Ladd-McConkey do a lot of us play above the rim, right? But yeah, I see it. Awesome. So there you go, guys. There you go.

We're cooking over here. Let's go with your Isaiah Bond comp. We talked about Bond a second ago. Give me an NFL play style comp for him or a, current former guy. We already did the setup on Bond. So I'm going to go with Jameson Williams. And listen, again, playstyle comp. I know Jamo was the 12th overall pick coming off of a torn ACL, probably would have been a top 10 pick otherwise. But I still see like the thing with Jamo is you hit him on a shallow crosser. He's got angle eroding speed to where like defenders actually don't know how to track him in the open field because he's so fast.

Bond has that level of speed. Jalen Waddle's another one coming out of Alabama. He had so many of these runs. catching runs where safety's, they just absolutely got cooked taking the wrong angle because they're not used to playing against the guy with that level of acceleration and speed. And so somewhere on that waddled JMO spectrum, I know I just compared them to two guys that went, what, seventh and twelfth respectfully.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's got that upside. But as far as a way he could be used in the NFL, the way he could be deployed, I think it's very similar to those guys. And for me, I'm going to go with a recent one. I think that Isaiah Bond, the landing spot, I think there's going to be teams that say I can use him like Kansas City use Xavier Worthy and sort of a heavier version of Worthy in terms of the usage. When we look at Worthy, Worthy had over 100 rushing yards this past year.

He had those explosive big plays. He had over 900. It was air yards wise was up there. But for me, it's also get the ball in Isaiah Bond's hands on certain manufacturing. touches and let him use his speed. I could see sort of a, let's copy, do a copycat of the Xavier Worthy model. Obviously different players, but you think stylistically NFL teams could consider using him in that style?

Yeah. I mean, they were, I mean, Bond replaced Worthy at Texas. They basically had the same role in the office. I think Bond was used a little bit more as a decoy than Worthy was, where Worthy was the center point of the offense in some games. That never really happened for Bond. I think Bond has one career, 100-yard game. but yeah, I definitely see it.

And Bond also dealt with some injuries last year. I think the potential for him to have more spike weeks if he didn't get sort of banged up in the middle of the year, could have been there. Obviously a little bit of a disappointment, but the Alabama tape for Bon, the early breakout for Bonn, definitely an interesting player. And he says he's going to run the 40 again, Brett.

So we'll see if that could be a, Audrick Estimate type situation in a massive scale where Bond ends up running like a tenth of a second plus faster at his pro day. I think he's going to run at the Big 12 Pro Days, which is coming up right away. Let's stay here at the wide receiver spot, a player that we didn't get to talk about

so much in the Dream Landing Spots episode, but we're both very high on Jaden Higgins. I know this is a guy where we talk a lot. And Brett, you told me you keep wanting to bring him up the more and more you watch him on film. You went and rewatch some of his film. This is a really exciting prospect. I love Jaden.

Higgins, man. He's so good. Rare to have a guy that's 6-4 that can move the way he moves and run routes. So I wrote down two players here. I'll even throw a third one in there. He's like a mix of all these guys. Sometimes comps are hard. You can't find that one-to-one. So from a size and route running standpoint, I see T. Higgins, 6-4-215, real smooth

route runner can absolutely destroy you and route you up despite being a big guy. but from a potential you should standpoint, I see Michael Thomas where I think Higgins has some things to clean up at the line of scrimmage where he's not great getting off press. I think an easy fix early on was like, let's put him as a power slot. Let's get him in the slot.

Make him our joker. Let him be great in the run game and then just go slant people to death and get the ball in your hands. He's awesome after the catch and kind of roll that way. And then the third guy I'll throw out there is Sidney Rice. I like that one. I like that one a lot. you know, six, four, two, ten, two-fifteen kind of frame was really good at the catch point.

Also really struggled to get off press early in his career. We saw some heavy slot usage for him at times and then eventually became a full-time outside guy, perimeter player. I could see, you know, some mix of all three of these guys to me is Jaden Higgins. And that sounds lofty and it should be. I think Jaden Higgins is a phenomenal player, top 50 player for me in the draft class. Yeah, I love that one. And I think Higgins, from a NFL draft perspective, I agree with you.

I think he's also going to be in that sort of wheelhouse. This is exactly the kind of player that goes in the early second round. You talk about guys like Ladd-McConkie. You talk about guys like T. Higgins, that sort of wheelhouse where they go in the early second and they excel as fantasy football assets. I think Jaden Higgins and his teammate Jill and Noel are both going to be in that pathway. For me, I'm going to go Cortland. Sutton because I think like you bring up the slot usage for Higgins to be used as a big

slot. I think he could be used like that. But I think a lot of teams might just park him outside. He certainly has the size. And size wise, he's almost identical to Cortland Sutton. Cortland Sutton 6.3218. Jaden Higgins 6.4214.214.21, very similar arm lengths. Higgins faster at the combine. But both of these guys, I think, it sort of plays out for me. And we saw this year. what a peak Cortland Sutton season really looked like where he was used as a very high target share guy, a big time first read rate guy, and a extreme amount of team air yard percentage. Your thoughts on Cortland Sutton here. Yeah, I like the comp.

I think the one differentiator between the two is Sutton was a great getting off press right away. And so if you tell me a team sees Higgins as only an outside guy or that's their primary usage, he might have trouble getting on the field early on. That's all I'll say. Like he's got some work to do getting off press. We saw improvement from 2023 to 2024. And then in Mobile, he went back to some of his old habits. And it's a little laxadaisical, a little sluggish.

She lets guys get hands on his chest. But it's something he can certainly overcome quickly. Yeah, no, for sure. Higgins is a really, really fun one. And one will continue to talk about over this next month. We're 36 days out from the NFL draft bread. It's really getting real here. Let's talk about tight ends.

Before we get to Elijah Arroyo, who's been sort of a Brett Whitefield guy, I mean, anybody who listened to us covering the senior bowl, we're all over Arroyo. We're certainly Arroyo flag planners here. But let's talk about the two blue chip tight ends that are going to go ahead of Arroyo in the NFL draft. Quickly, give me an NFL comparison for Tyler Warren. Give me an NFL comparison for Colston Loveland. Okay. Tyler Warren, I'm going to go George Cattle, where it's this.

you know, big powerful guy, a little unrefined as a run blocker, but he's dominant as a run blocker still. He's strong, awesome after the catch, great with the ball in his hands. And then freaky at the catch point, like just red zone weapon, short yardage weapon. He's got that wild cat ability too. I'd love to see George Kittle in that role where maybe not the most refined route runner, but when the ball gets in his hands, good things happen no matter what. Warren and Kittle are very similar to me. Colson Loveland, I was going to go with a guy that you have a comp for somebody later,

but that's us. I like Sam LaPorta for Colson Loveland. I know Loveland's a little bit bigger, longer frame, but the way they attack leverage and win routes reminds me of each other. You could see some, again, Tray McBride is also a little bit smaller than Colson Loveland, but same kind of thing where they run routes like wide receivers. These guys are basically. they have wide receiver ability as tight ends inline tight ends that can play in the slaughter out wide.

So I see a really refined route runner with him. Like another one I'll throw out you is maybe like a more souped up version of a Dalton Kincaid where Kincaid really good route runner, route technician, but he's kind of limited athletically. I don't see those same limitations with Loveland, but I see the attention to detail and technical refinement. Yeah, I mean, I like that one. It's sort of a, for me, Loveland is definitely a step fast. than Kincaid was.

And Kincaid was sort of like a big wide receiver as well. But this was a guy that when it comes to Loveland, I think Loveland really, really runs well, a little more athletic. Loveland's an absolute stud. When you say Trey McBride, that gets the people going for any tight end these days. But when it comes to Loveland,

he's the kind of guy that he's young. He's a great route runner. He could be a big time red zone weapon. You talked about him potentially landing in Indianapolis and being a featured receiver. Loveland's going to be the kind of guy that could end up leading his team in targets of the tight end position at some point early in his NFL career. Very, very high on Loveland. Love what we talked about with Warren.

But let's finish this out. Elijah Royo, people want to know who does Brett Whitefield compare Elijah Arroyo to in the NFL now or in the NFL past? Yeah, I'm going to stick with another University of Miami tight end. And that's my guy, Greg Olson. Third leg, Greg. we're getting after it with underrated underrated rapper too anybody who wants to throw that one in the YouTube it's shocking shocking it is shocking um especially if you know gregg now and and just kind of where he's at in life it just doesn't make any sense but um a royo is a fantastic athlete we don't

have near the production profile coming out we have with greg olson right like aroyo has got what i think it's 39 catches this year and and really i think when it comes to royo it's the the one season is the people like to push at and say only one year of production and the production was not over the top with you know there was the multiple wide receivers who outscored him on Miami. People love poking holes in this one because again, you were at the senior bowl. This was the Elijah Royal Show. Yeah, for sure. And dude, I get it. Like I'm a data guy by trade. That's how it came up in this business. So I get the red flags analytically with a royal. But Here's the thing I'll say about the tight end position.

There's no other position that athleticism matters for more than tight end. And we've seen guys with really limited production profiles come out of nowhere in the NFL and take it by storm because of the athleticism. I can just rattle off a few right now. Rob Grunkowski, very similar production profile to a royal coming out. I think Grancowski had 32 catches his last year at Arizona State still went in the second round. Jimmy Graham kind of came out of nowhere. Travis Kelsey kind of came out of nowhere. Antonio Gates was an undrafted free agent,

but a freak athlete came out of nowhere, took the league by storm. So he is the exact athletic profile of these guys that absolutely dominate in the NFL. I really do think, you know, if he can stay healthy, he is ready to rock and roll. He's also very good in the run game,

which wasn't true for some of those other guys I mentioned, where that came later in their career, except for Gronk. Gronk was always good at that, but that came later in their career where Arroyo, right now he could step onto an NFL field and be a inline blocker at a really high level. Yeah, and for me, this was the Leporto one for me. And again, I don't think that a Royo is going to step onto an NFL field and get 110 targets as a rookie.

Probably, but I do think he could step onto an NFL field and be a sneaky threat to get 85 to 90 targets because this is a guy that can be targeted in the vertical game. This is a guy who can win underneath. And like you've said with some of these other athletic tight ends, get the ball in his hands as an easy button target and let him excel in yak. I think Arroyo's got that in his profile too. So we're high on Elijah Royal. That is our tight end three in this process and will continue to be so.

Brett, this was unbelievably awesome. What do you have coming out? Let everybody know once again. Let's talk one more time about this prospect guide. Yeah, prospect guide drops this week. I don't know when you're listening to the show. If it's Friday, if it's Friday, it's for sure out. So go to fantasy points.com.

If you don't already have a login, create one, a free login, and you get access to the prospect guide. The first release is going to have everyone you care about, quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs, tight ends. And then we'll be adding O line, D line, and more quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends, the closer we get to the draft. I even add guys after the draft. Guys, I didn't get a chance to write up before the draft. I keep going just so you have a little reference point as you're doing your dynasty draft. So we'll continue rocking this out all the way through May. So check that out.

First Read podcast as well. Joe Marino and I. It's a cool high level X's and O's with data mixed in podcast. We talk team building. We talk. You know, we break down prospects in a little more detail, I think, than most of the shows I do. So if you're into that kind of thing, check it out. It's a really good show.

Yeah, and make sure you subscribe to Fantasy Football Daily. I've got some very, very fun guests lined up coming in here from Fantasy Points and from across the fantasy football industry. we have a very cool fantasy points rookie mock draft next week. Joe Dolan's joining us. The guys from Dynasty Points are joining us. That's going to be unbelievably fun. And make sure you subscribe to School of Scott as well.

Scott Barrett and I putting out a bunch of podcasts. And you're getting a ton of Brett Whitefield on that channel as well. You guys were doing your film versus analytics. Those are all going to be on the School of Scott podcast. And make sure you're subscribed to Dynasty Life as well. That's my dynasty podcast. You can find that anywhere you get your podcasts. We're going to see you soon. Thanks for tuning in.