Fantasy Football Daily - Favorite Handcuffs, Thoughts on Kadarius Toney, and More | Q&A with DFB

Episode Date: August 12, 2023

Jake Tribbey (@JakeTribbey) gets Scott Barrett's (@ScottBarrettDFB) insights on multiple topics, including the best backup running backs to target in fantasy football drafts in 2023, Scott's undying love for the always-injured Kadarius Toney, and more! Want to join a high-stakes dynasty league -- or any other high-stakes league? All new FFPC users get $25 off their first FFPC league of $35 or more, including dynasty orphans, using our affiliate link: ⁠https://myffpc.com/cms/public?affid=fantasypoints⁠ ⁠FANTASY POINTS PROJECTIONS ARE LIVE⁠ FOR ALL STANDARD AND PREMIUM SUBSCRIBERS! Interested in playing Best Ball in 2023? There's no better place than Underdog Fantasy. ⁠Use our code FANTASYPTS⁠ to sign up for a new account at Underdog, and not only will you get a 100% deposit match up to $100... but you'll get a Fantasy Points Standard subscription for only $5! ⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com/underdog --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time to the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoints.com. Top level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room, with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. Guys, what is going on? I'm your host, Jake Tribby, and I've got Scott Barrett here to discuss, well, pretty much any fantasy topic we want. Scott, how are you doing today? I'm doing great Jake. Thanks for having me. Really, really proud to be the first ever guess on the Jake Tribby Show. Yeah, I'm really happy to have you. Show still doesn't have a working title yet. We're figuring that out as we go. But I figured out to ask you some fantasy questions. We could really, you know, delve deep into the fantasy pits. And, you know, what better player? Yeah, maybe Kyle Pitts. We'll see. But what better.

to play what better player to start with than cadarius tony you had a minor knee operation and you know fantasy points doctor edwin porras speculates he's likely going to need another surgery at some point this year what's a fair price here in best ball tournaments because i'm having a hard time figuring out what to do with tony well in bestball tournaments we know upside wins championships in general but in bestball traditional bestball it kind of pays to play it a little safer grab the straight eight values, but things change dramatically in, let's say, Underdog's tournament style format where you have to, you know, advance through the playoffs and ideally come in first out of, I don't know, 600,000 teams, whatever it is. So you really want these power law players, players with immense upside relative to ADP. And Cadarious really stands out to me. All of my best takes over the years were the takes I got the most heat on. Oh, you're an idiot. They're tagging old takes exposed. all of my best players I've hyped up were players, everyone else was too scared to make a pro argument in favor of. And so I love Cadarius Tony this year, really believed in his talent,

flashed in just about every metric that matters to me, yards per route run on a very small sample, targets per route run, mistackles force per reception. And I was so excited this season. because for one thing, everyone was hyping him up. Brett Veach, who's not a liar, by the way, in 2018, Brett Veach said, Patrick Mahomes is like the best player I've ever watched practice. And he only had one NFL start to his name. And then boom, he had one of the best seasons of any quarterback ever.

And so he nailed that breakout. And it seemed like he was trying to do that again with Cadarius Tony. He was like, this is who we want to be our leading wide receiver. think he's our wide receiver one. He can do that role that we like so much, you know, in the slot, manufactured touches, schemed production. He's a freak after the catch.

And we're bullish on his upside as a deep threat. He didn't do that much with the Giants, but we see a lot of potential there. And so everything was indicating that they were envisioning like the Tyreek role for Cadarius. And like, that's a huge role, especially those manufactured touch. is last season the chiefs had 12 touchdowns on shovel passes, which was like almost three times as much as the next closest team. If Canarias could get just like 60% of that, that's huge. And again, I believe in the talent. Obviously, the risk, you know, bearing the lead here is, well, he's always hurt. He's already hurt. But we just had a report come out last week, I think it was, or a few days

ago. I think it was Jeremy Fowler saying the chief still believe that or hope that, that he's going to be their leading receiver. So they still have him in mind as their wide receiver one. They think he's going to be back for week one. And his ADP is in free fall. I don't know where it lands, but this is like the ultimate Scott Barrett player for me, like upside wins championships.

Whatever his ADP is at, I want to grab him around earlier, especially in a tournament style format. FFPC leagues, underdog leagues for sure. And like even in my own leagues, I'm going to have 100% exposure to this guy. And I know he could absolutely burn me, but that's just the sort of player I like.

I think we should talk about Sky Moore, too, and Justin Ross. But any thoughts on that very long monologue for me? No, I mean, I totally line up with you right now as current price wide receiver 46 on Underdog, got an ADP of 94.2. I mean, I've seen a lot of drafts where he's falling into the low hundreds. And I'm grabbing him every time. I mean, you can't. The upside's undeniable, like you said. But, you know, Sky Moore, I think, you know, definitely worthy.

of some discussion. I saw a B report a couple of days ago. Chiefs B writer said he wouldn't be surprised if Skymore led the team in receptions. He's really creeping up there. I think last I saw in Traff King's ADP right around 95, where are you comfortable taking Skymore? So that's the issue. It's like 95 is also a great value. Like that's a sick value. This is John Hanson's one of his top three must draft players. I'm not, I'm a Cadarius guy, but like I could easily see a pathway to league winning upside. And it's just that Cadarius can't stay healthy. He's never been healthy. He's always hurt. He's already hurt. And so you remove Tony from the equation and boom, it's Sky Moore is the starting slot wide receiver. He's in line for that role with manufactured touches,

scheme production. And that's a super valuable role to be in. And what's his target competition? MVS, Justin Watson, those are NPCs. Like I am not threatened by that. I don't think Sky's an absurd talent, but like, I think he's better than both of those names. I think the role is better. So he could easily be a league winner. To me, it's just, it seems like they want Cadaria still, even still to be their wide receiver one. I think he gets that slot role. If he's fully healthy, he trusts him with a full-time usage. But yeah, I mean, he's a great value in his own right. And you know me in like underdog drafts, I'm trying to take Justin Ross in like the last few rounds in every single league I'm in.

So, like, I think all three of these wide receivers are severely underpriced. And last season was just a total aberration where Juju and Hardman, I think, finished, like, as mid-wide receiver 3 is by fantasy points per game. This is a juggernaut offense. This is the best quarterback in football. And so I don't see any reason why Patrick Mahomes can support the overall Titan 1, pushing up, you know, mid-range wide receiver 1 numbers, another wide-received top 12 fantasy points per game wide receiver.

And then another wide receiver top 24, like that makes perfect sense to me. So I love the value on all of these guys, tons of upside as well. And this makes me like Pasoamah Holmes a lot more as well. Like if you're talking about an underdog tournament draft, just stack them up. You can take Kelsey round one. You can take Mahomes round two and just kind of hope they go nuclear during the fantasy playoffs. The value is really there to me.

Yeah, I mean, you look at those top three quarterbacks. it's much easier to stack Mahomes than it is Josh Allen or Jalen Hertz right now. Are you at all considering like taking Tony and Skymore on the same team in a best ball tournament or are those kind of separate plays for you, separate bets? I think you can just because the values there, but to me it does make more sense to pick one and pick whichever one. It doesn't have to be Tony, but I think that's where the, I see some redundancy there to Skymore versus Tony. But again, like the health is a serious issue. Like Edwin, our injury expert over at Fantasy Points is like way out on Cadarius. I've talked to some other names too around the industry.

But yeah, I just I just see that upside and I get excited. But Justin Ross, too, like another guy with medical issues, it's just I think he's better than Skymore. I think he's way better than MVS and Justin Watson. And, you know, Andy Reid could be stubborn. He could be slow with his younger players. I just think this one's a little too obvious and it's only a matter of time until he's a starter. That might not be like week until week six or something, but definitely definitely really bullish on him. Like one of the greatest prospects ever if you just throw out the medicals, but those medicals were rough.

Yeah, it's not a Scott Barrett podcast unless we talk about Justin Ross. Is there a price for Justin Ross where you would pump the brakes at all? I mean, he's been a huge riser with, you know, the recent training camp videos. he's looked pretty good. And obviously everyone, you know, Justin Ross and Scott Barrett go together pretty well. So I think people have been pretty anxious to take Justin Ross now that we know he's, you know, probably going to make the roster. This is how you win basketball leagues.

I'm friends with Aaron H. He's like the greatest bestball player of all time. He actually doesn't mess around with tournament style leagues. He just plays non-tournament style. But he like he returns like a 50% plus win rate every single year. and he does thousands upon thousands of drafts. He's just like absolute legend. He's like first few rounds,

I don't really deviate too much from ADP, but when you're talking like the last four rounds of the draft, I go all in on guys. He had 100, literally 100% exposure to OBJ, his rookie season. And he gravitates like I do towards those upside guys. And if you get, if you're eating zeros from a last round pick, it doesn't mean anything because you probably have six wide receivers.

So the chance anyway, So the chances of him, you know, cracking your starting lineup were low. So why not get a guy who can produce a power law outcome and like be a starter and really move the needle? And so that's sort of what I see in Ross. He's just one of my guys. So he's someone up. If ADP continues to rise, I'll just keep trying to get him before everyone else. Yeah, current current ADP, wide receiver 78, 183 ADP going ahead of Paris Campbell, Devante Parker,

Richie James. You know, I'm more than fine taking him there. But, you know, I could see him moving up at least another couple rounds by the time September rolls around. I think Parker's kind of nice in a best ball. Like, he doesn't have that upside. It's just like guaranteed production, guaranteed ADP value. He had multiple games over 20 PPR points last year. He's got, you know, some single game upside.

I have a lot of Devante Parker. He was really good by yards per route run and some other stuff as well. I think it depends a little bit on the structure of your team. Like if you're stacked at wide receivers, Justin Ross would make more sense. If your wide receiver is a little flimsy, I think Parker would make more sense. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you there.

Let's riff a little bit about some of the major handcuff running backs. Ideally, we keep this a little quicker because we got a lot of guys to go over. Jerk McKinnon, curious on your thoughts here. I know Deneric Prince, I believe, is this a name. Getting a lot of camp hype right now. People are talking about him, potentially eating into McKinnon's role. Does that bother you at all? I mean, McKinnon's, you know, going right around 115 on both major sites. How are you looking at that? So Chris Wecht nailed it last year. Jerich McKinnon made me so much money in DFS because Chris was

just like, hey, I was looking at snaps and for some reason, like, McKinnon is only playing on 40% of the snaps, but he's getting 80% of the red zone snaps. And I'm just like, boom, all in 3,800 price tag. And so he made me so much money last season in the fantasy playoffs. And then we were talking about drafting him in our best ball show. And he was like, yeah, I don't know. I just don't think he does anything until like really late in the season. I think that's what the chiefs want to do with their usage is like preserve them until

the last few regular season games and the playoffs. And I'm like, well, that's like an amazing argument for him in the underdog playoff format. And then a beat writer came out. it's linked to in some of my articles that beatwriter came out and said like that's their plan with him it's like all right well he he's a great pick for uh underdog tournament style leagues and even in redraft leagues like he's a feather in the cap of all zero rb drafters because he's probably going to if that's their usage they have in mind he's probably going to be a free agent in like week

eight you add him week 10 ideally he gets that bell cow usage and it could be a juggernaut for the Playoffs. He could be a starter. He averaged what, like 20 plus fantasy points per game over his last seven last year. So yeah, I like him. I don't think he's a player you need to draft, but unless in underdog tournament, but I like him. Yeah, he's been a major tournament target for me, 25 and a half fantasy points per game from week 14 to week 17. His red zone touches doubled pre-bye. He was at 1.4 red zone touches per game. After week 12, he was at 2.7. Reds and touches per game. I mean, just elite end-of-season usage.

So I'm pretty excited about McKinnon, too, in tournaments. Khalil Herbert, where are you at on him right now? It kind of looks like a split between him and Deonté Foreman for the RB1 spot in Chicago. Well, he's not a handcuff. He's a starter. And there's a compelling bull case argument just that he was arguably the most efficient running back in football last year. And so all you need to consider is the bears come to their senses, use them as a bell cow, and he's awesome for fantasy. Unfortunately, I think the most likely argument is it's like a frustrating now potentially three-way committee with Roshan Johnson.

You can call it a four-way committee with Justin Fields. And so there's really not a ton of upside there. Last year, David Montgomery was the RB29. line Herbert. Again, most efficient running back in fantasy R.B46 in fantasy points per game. So not really a target for me, but I definitely get the arguments there. I've been taking a little bit of him. I think the single game upside there could be a little compelling, but I've been leaning more into the next guy we're going to talk about Elijah Mitchell. Where are you at on him? I feel like

he's got pretty strong standalone value plus, you know, low end RB1 if Christian McCaffrey goes down. obviously health is a concern though yeah he just kind of frustrates me because like if he didn't exist i would have so much mcalfrey 101 but because he exists you know i actually have ecler above mcalfrey um yeah i we saw the splits last year he had a valuable role he was getting the bulk of the carries alongside mcalfrey he was getting the bulk of the rushing work near the end zone uh so i i do see standalone value and then of course like massive upside if mcalfrey Jeffrey, who has had a lot of injuries, were to suffer another one. So, yeah, he's a fine handcuff for sure. Where are you at on Jerome Ford? He's a guy that I've been hyping up quite a bit

this offseason. I mean, Nick Chubb has never been over, you know, about 62% of backfield usage. It feels like there's a pretty big chunk of the pie available to Ford this year. But he also pulled his hamstring a day or two ago. You know, seems like he'll be fine for week one. But, yeah, curious where you fall on Jerome Ford now that is 80Ps in the 160s. Yeah, I love him. People forget in 2021 prior to Kareem Hunt's injuries, he was a top five fantasy running back. He was outproducing Nick Chub. And so, hey, if he just gets the Nick Chub role, that's a really valuable role.

I do think Chubb is in line for more work this year, but it's like he still has the injury upside. If Chubb were to suffer an injury, you could argue that Ford would see better volume than Chubb would, you know, with, competing against Ford. So it definitely could be a league winning Belkow in the case of an injury. Their team seems pretty high on him. Yeah. And I mean, he's pretty good. He's a lot better than washed Kareem Hunt was last season.

So I think that's another thing to remember with Ford. Where you went on Jalen Warren? I have not found myself taking a ton of him in the 140s. Yeah, really curious on your thoughts. Yeah, I think he's an interesting handcuff for the reason that, like, of all these players, he's the only one I could see winning on talent. You know, like I don't see Elijah Mitchell becoming the RB one. If McCaffrey's healthy, same for Ford.

But Warren, you know, could theoretically beat out Naji. Seems like the team soured on him at least a little bit. He was really good last year. He keeps getting hyped up by the running back coach. And standalone value, I kind of see a committee. Mike Tomlin was always the Belkow guy. But he said last season he stopped being in charge of, of running back usage.

That's now the running back coach. And then we saw, even with Naji, like, healthy and more effective in the second half last year, it was way more of a committee. And like I said, the running back coach who's in charge of that usage just keeps hyping up Jalen Warren. Where are you at on Zemir White? Yeah, the argument for him is easy. It's like I had so much James Connor the year that Levyon Bell held out.

And it's kind of like the same thing. I really don't think, I mean, that was stupid of Bell. I don't think Jacobs is stupid. I don't think he has any leverage. I don't think Zemir White is good. I did like James Connor as a prospect. I don't have too much of him, but I mean, like, that's like a really compelling argument

for tournament-style leagues. It's just, hey, like, what if Josh Jacobs continues to hold out? What if he quiet quits at the end of the year? Yeah, I mean, I think that is pretty compelling. Next guy, so Gus Edwards, we're recording on August 9th. Gus Edwards left practice early today with an athletic trainer. Where it is, it's unclear what happened.

Assuming he's healthy, though, you know, obviously J.K. Dobbins' health, very iffy, plus the contract situation. I really like Edwards. Where are you at? Yeah, I think he's the best name you've mentioned thus far. He's basically Elijah Mitchell plus Amir White. J.K. Dobbins is holding out. He might be heard.

He's always heard. He's missed more games in his career than games played. He's never been a bell cow. He's always been a committee guy. We've seen Gus Edwards effective and scoring fantasy points. So he has that standalone value. He has that upside. The likelihood for J.K. Dobbins to miss games is probably higher than just about

anyone else. So he's by far the best value of this bunch. Yeah, I've found myself taking a ton of Edwards. I'm over 20% on him. One of my highest in running backs this year. These last two guys are available at the tail end. of DK drafts, which run 20 rounds. Kianti Ingram and Kishon Vaughn.

I'm curious if you have a strong preference there. Yeah, who's the better season-long outlook? Kishon's gotten more hype. They said if Rashad White were to miss time, we fully trust Kishon to be or do it all back. So he's a clear handcuff. Kante Iigram, I don't think Arizona even knows who Connor's backup is.

I think he's competing for that role. So he feels thin to me. at least for now. Yeah, I mean, just looking at the roster, though, it's Corey Clement and Tyson Williams competing with Keante Ingram. I mean, I think that's a battle that Keonté Ingram wins pretty easily, but he could also, you know, lose that past game role to Clement. You know, a guy like Keonté Ingram in one of the league's worst offenses getting 14 carries

a game. I mean, how much is that really worth? Not too sure. Brock Purdy. He's currently the quarterback 23. He's a guy that you've been. all over this off season. Where should he be going in drafts?

I don't know. A few rounds earlier at least. Last season he ranked eighth in fantasy points per start. If you include the playoffs, he ranked fifth in fantasy points per dropback. That was above Patrick Mahomes and just about like every other quarterback on that list. You know, they're being drafted in the top four rounds.

Is the guaranteed starter per Ian Rappaport and Adam Schafter? They've been saying that for months. He's the best offensive coordinator, the best supporting cast in football, extremely safe. Only nitpicky concern is like, what if they have Trey Lance in a sort of Taysom Hill role? But no, I think he's a mortal lock to smash his ADP. I just don't know that he is league winning upside, but hey, you know, the value's there. Would you feel comfortable taking him over Kyler Murray, QB20? So Kyle

Kiler Murray's interesting He's another Like sort of like cadarius type player Where I find myself arguing in favor of Perhaps because I'm the only one making that argument And because I'm getting heat for it And it just fuels me but I like it

I like it. He in best ball it's trickier Like I like him a lot more and starts it Where you can weather the Well where he's probably going to be a free agent because he's going to miss the first few weeks of the season. You kind of like don't want to eat too many zeros in best ball. But basically he ranks third in fantasy points per game over the last three seasons.

The counter argument is, okay, he has this ACL and he's going to miss a few games, and he's not going to be as effective as a runner. Like you look at mobile quarterbacks coming back from ACL, you run less the following season, but it's not really a lot if you dig into the numbers. and there are outliers. Deshawn Watson, the second half of his sophomore season, when he came back from that late season ACL, he averaged over 40 rushing yards per game, which was like easily a career high. The rest of the time, I think he was at like 29 rushing yards per game. And so the fact that he could be an outlier, yeah, makes me pretty bullish on Kyler. There's also concerns, obviously, that Arizona is in full tank mode. But I I mean, all that kind of feels priced into me. Yeah, I think that's pretty reasonable, especially at QB20. You know, definitely some upside to be had with Kyler, especially in the second half of the season.

And that's when the points are more important in this fantasy playoff format, right? Yeah, no, exactly, exactly. Okay. Ryan Heath's aging curve research clearly demonstrates that it's an uphill battle for rookie tight ends to produce. Are you at all interested in Dalton Kincaid, Sam Leporta, Michael Mayer, or Lucas? musgrave at cost? Not really. I kind of feel like a boomer, but I don't have a good argument outside of just,

hey, like this never happens from rookie tight ends. Like Evan Ingram was like the one outlier. And, you know, it wasn't even like that great of a season. But with Don Kincaid, you could argue, oh, he's actually not a tight end. He wants to be their slot. But what I'm hearing at a Bill's camp is, one, he looks amazing. But he's also not getting a ton of snaps with the first team offense. They rank like dead last and 12 personnel last year.

And that's going to jump, but not enough for him to be an every down player. Knox is good. He gave him a lot of money. He's still going to be their starter. They trust him more. Sam Laporta and Luke Musgrave are also two guys like really getting hyped up in camp. Like day one starter, every down workload.

They look amazing. I don't know. We'll see like T. T.J. Hawkinson didn't do much with the Lions. So why do we think Leporta's going to do a lot? And he had to go to the Vikings before he, you know, earned his draft capital. And like be a smash hit for fantasy with a must grave. I mean, like that one Robert Tunyon year, Rogers isn't there anymore. I don't know. I, I'm not going to fault you for taking any of these guys. I just don't find myself going that route. Yeah, I mean, in best ball drafts. I'm really only looking at Kincaid and Laporta and stacks. And outside of that, I mean, it feels pretty thin to me.

Which giant slot receiver scores the most fantasy points this year? Oh, I have absolutely no idea. I'm not drafting, like, any of these giants. Just because it looks like such a mess. And we've seen Daibu go with committees, like heavy committees, at least with the wide receiver three. I don't think even they know. So why am I trying to gamble on this? I'm just avoiding.

I think what would be sickest was Cole Beasley. That would be really funny to me. But it's probably not cold Beasley. What do you think? I mean, I've taken some shots on Paris Campbell, but I mean, it's so gross. I'd much rather just take Slayton.

Like, Slateon to me feels like the best value out of the group. Obviously, he's not a slot, but the slot situation is so gross that, yeah, why are we gambling on this when we can just grab Darius Slate in a pick 200? All right. So now it's time for what should be my favorite part of the show. A lot of people know Scott as one of the greatest fantasy writers to ever live. But not nearly as many people know the depths of Scott's soul as I do.

So I've come up with a new segment to fix that. This is the Scott-ish Inquisition. So Scott, it's time for some person. No questions. What is your biggest real life fear? I'm afraid of commitment. Really? Unironically.

Unironically? You've, you're currently in a long-term relationship, are you not? That's right. That's right, yeah. So I guess you're doing pretty well with that then. Yeah, so far. So far, this has done really good.

But historically, serious commitment issues. I really wanted to get tattoos, but I would just never just because like such a commitment, you know? I actually, when my dad died, he had this Marine Corps eagle on his arm as a tattoo. And I wanted to get like an eagle tattoo on my chest. And I like, showed it to my sister. And she was like, I think that's a Nazi tattoo. And she like called, you're out of party. She called a bunch of her friends over.

They're like, yeah, that definitely looks like a Nazi. I was like, all right. So like, glad I didn't go that route and have. that on my chest for the rest of my life. But yeah, very, any, any, can't do it. What about you, Jake? What's your biggest fear? I'm really scared of the open ocean. I have a lot of, I have a lot of fear regarding the open ocean. I'm very scared of sharks. Have you ever heard of the USS Indianapolis? No. Okay. So this was a ship that crashed, or was actually sunk by a Japanese torpedo. and I believe it was somewhere around 600 sailors were left in the open sea for three days.

And like 30% of these guys got eaten by sharks. They're just floating around, getting munched on by sharks. I mean, that's like, that actually is the scariest thing I could possibly imagine. What's your biggest fantasy football fear for 2023? Oh, boy. It's not being wrong. It's not being like embarrassingly wrong. Like Tony gets hurt on the first play of week one out for the year.

That would suck. I'm not that afraid of it. It's not Justin Ross just being terrible or like one of these guys I hyped up just being terrible. It's like a guy I'm not high enough on, but who I've given a lot of thought to. Like one of these players who are tricky to rank, like, like my. Sanders theoretically should be one of my guys. He's, he's, you know, going to be a bell cow. He's supposed to get like 40 guaranteed catches. We saw a lot of success from Carolina running backs last year. The offense should be better. And I just can't bump him up. And so I think that something

like that is just, you know, like, I should have had him higher. Something like that. I don't know. Yeah, I get that. I think that's understandable. Mine is definitely Anthony Richardson being Tray Lance. That would lose me quite a bit of money. That would be pretty upset. Okay, so this is a question from future football writer of the year, Ryan Heath. In his major pieces this season,

Scott's explained how he sees the quarterback landscape and the running back landscape somewhat differently than in years past. Why is he choosing to side with the recent data of the last year or two over the full body of data going back 10 to 15 years? Right. So it really, in entirely comes down to where the value is.

And to me, at the running back position, I'm just seeing a ton of value in the middle to late rounds. You know, like Rashad White, ADP is absolutely stupid. James Cook, James, a bunch of guys like that. And so if that's where the value is, and I feel really good about these guys and, like, I'm doing my rankings and I'm like, you know, I like my RB-13, but I really don't see much difference from him

as I do some of these other names. So I just go where the value is. And I'm also open to the idea that, you know, hey, Pashtamah Holmes is one of the best quarterbacks ever. Josh Allen has like a similar arm and does stuff with his legs. Jalen Hertz has the most fantasy points per start of any quarterback in NFL history. And Lamar Jackson ranked second. And so I get that with running backs too.

It's like there's a lot of like making the top. top 12 running backs. I don't feel good about any of those guys. I don't have a high level of confidence when I deviate from ADP. I don't feel great about any single one of them. And there's all these like, it's not just the data. It's also the fact that when I did my post draft presser review, every team that drafted a running back in the first three rounds said, yeah, you know, like the age of the bell cow was over. You need a committee these days. There's that extra game at the end of the schedule. These guys get a beating. They're more injury prone than other positions. And we want them healthy for the playoffs. So, and like all the, we got like J.K. Dobbins, Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor,

potentially holding out. So I think this is a fairly unique year. And the fact that, you know, I'm seeing this value makes me feel comfortable kind of embracing it. Yeah. I think it's important to remember like when we look at the season on the whole that it's a lot closer to like a DFS. slate where value isn't, you know, it doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's completely relative. And yeah, I mean, I think, you know, the way that you've laid things out in your articles makes a ton of sense in terms of how we're viewing overall strategy this year. All right. Well, guys, I really appreciate everybody joining us for the inaugural episode of a show that does not have a name yet. We will be back next week, though. Thank you so much for tuning it.

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