Fantasy Football Daily - FSGA Live Draft Show | CFB Best Ball Draft Strategy

Episode Date: August 6, 2024

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What? What are you shaking your head? You're welcome. It's the CFF All Access Podcast. Thank you. I'm Eric Froton with Zach Hall and Josh Savalier. And today we are going over the FSGA 14 team six point passing touchdown College Mansi Football League that is on the clock right now.

We are at pick number 814. We're at the bounceback with Mike Renner. He's got two picks. I am immediately on the clock after having taken Carson Beck. Boys, excited to be back on. We pretty much shotgun right into a live draft. You know, driving a lot, joining live in person, in progress for the next half hour. And then we'll shut it down and kind of go over the full boat.

But how are we all doing? Anything you want to discuss off the rip? Nothing for me, man. I'm excited to get into this draft. Excited to be talking some football. I had a crazy day, man. I started out with losing my keys. and then how to get like two keys replaced on top of that,

got locked out of my computer, and here we are. So I feel like I just need to talk some ball today, man. Yeah, I'm excited. I've been off for a couple weeks, so it's good to be back on with you guys. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I was playing a hooky last week.

So this is a return for myself as well. And as the figures, here I am on the clock. All right. Jake Bringsdull goes, not going tight end quite yet, but I got a feeling we'll see a domino effect coming. We've only had three. That's the fourth one taken. I have my eyes on my fourth running back, so we'll just do a quick precursor. Started off with Ashton Genti, got him in the two spot, went Evan Stewart, and then Jordan James with that Oregon two-step. Four-13. I like where Concepcion's been falling.

I feel like he has a nice high floor, and then swinging for the fence to see him with Jeremy Bernard, Alabama. You've heard me talk about him and the potential of that Alabama passing offense with Kenwin-Dabor coming in, going from 24 passes per game to 39, what did it through in Washington last year. Trevion here after, where did how far? Jekkins goes 314. Get Trevion all the way down at 613. We've talked about this a little bit too. I think that spread is just simply too far. And then Bond as my number four wide receiver with that in mind, just took my first. first quarterback. I want another running back and I do not believe in Jim Miller, two and a half yards after contact. Literally over a yard less than we saw from Justice Haynes on a

per carry basis, smoked him in the yards per carry as well category. I just think that when I watch both of them, I watch those, watch every carry for each of them left through PFF Ultimate. Justice Haynes is just a superior back. I think he's going to be better and I'm taking him. So getting him in the ninth round is where I'm going here. Tell me, gentlemen, to look at the first round, anything in particular to you, you're seeing here that sticks out as we look at the first few rounds. Go ahead. I was just going to say, I'm surprised.

Dylan Gabriel went as far back as he did. Yeah. Just how many quarterbacks went ahead of him. We haven't seen that a whole lot. he's a guy that's I mean we know what we get with him he's a super consistent QB so just interesting to see that many quarterbacks go before him in the first round not necessarily a bad thing it's just I don't I haven't seen that in anything I've I've been in yet any drafts and then Devon Neal going above Maffa and Hampton as well I don't I I'm not against that at all I really like Devon Neal this year

I think he's just going to be a huge part of that offense. He's coming off a really good year. But that's another thing we haven't really seen either. It seems like Mafa and Hampton are going before him in most of the drafts I've seen. Yeah, I feel like this is the underdog effect. I feel like quarterbacks are going a lot earlier now that people have participated in underdog best balls in the P4 only leagues. So to see, you know, what, six, seven, eight QBs in the first even two rounds is way more than we are seeing pre-underdog.

And then DJ Giddens going in the second round. You know, that happened to us in the CFF Championship series. You know, best ball that we're all participating in with some of these same people. You can see kind of this effect to me of underdog kind of shaping ADP a little bit more. Interesting. Yeah, I tend to agree. and if you look at Chris Benzine and Jared Palmgren what they were both able to do.

Buck Giddens, Hampton Taylor, down the end here, that first round in a 14-team expanded format. I mean, that's a nice two-step. Yeah, that's a great start in the running back room. It doesn't get much better than that. How are you going to complain about that, especially at the end? You get a little nervous like, I have the 11, I have the 12.

Well, you know, fret not really made the most of that. And to the QB speaking to that, look at Chris Kay, our friend, the great Chris Kay of, geez, he has two podcasts now. I mean, I'm losing track of the media moguls. He's everywhere. He's everywhere. He is omnipotent. No, what is it? ubiquitous everywhere at all times.

Yeah. But taking Kairn drones and you see him adjusting. That's not something you usually say, Kay, do. when you'd be waiting on drones a little bit. He kind of got a little gun shy after he sees Green go and wanted to make sure he got his guy because he is a Virginia Tech fan and he has been certainly on the drones train this year

to make sure he gets the most of it. Kind of affected everybody down ballot. Nico, pretty good deal here by Renner at 3-1. I mean, if you're talking about, again, QBs going later, yeah, Gabriel went, but, geez, you get Nico all the way down here at 3-1. Yeah. Yeah. Not a bad deal at all as well.

So and there goes, this kind of continues with the QBs. You had the lull almost here. Look at five, six, seven, three QBs taken in the entire, that three round span of just basically skill. And then now it picks right back up after you hit round eight. And now, boom, everyone's going for that QB three, two. that depends. Yeah, can you let us know what's a scoring format? Yeah.

Six point passing touchdown, of course, guys. Okay. Well, I figure it as much, but that maybe does explain a little bit of some of these quarterbacks. Also, you know, talk about Jared. Seth Hinnigan in the fourth round and a six point passing touchdown. I mean, very good value. So, I mean, he's having, you know, oh, man, he got Will Pauling at five at the end of the

fifth round, which is a dream for the, for Jared. He's just having his dream draft right now. He's just so giddy. I actually asked him on Zoom about Pauling, like, Jared, you know, I kind of, I know how much he likes Pauling. I wanted to kind of stoke him a little. So in the Zoom room, I was like, Jared, you know, do you, any concern about these reports coming out about Wilka Pauling, you know, a little spreading out the targets for Moop fickle? And he didn't take debate. He was all over it.

He was like, oh, no, absolutely not. So, Jared, feeling good about Will Pauling, gets a great value in to round five. I mean, he was going round three. Correct me if I'm wrong, Zach, if you, I don't know if you have the ADP stuff for the Champions League best ball. But I want to say, Pauling started creeping pretty consistently in around three for those drafts. Yeah. I don't have, I'll try and get that. I'll try and.

No. I have it. But he's, yeah, he has been going around three. I'm trying to think of where he went in the last draft we just did. if he went a little bit later than that or not. It seemed like he dropped this last one, but it was round three, and I think he's dropping a little more than that.

And that was the last threat. We just had that dropped, you know? Yeah. That's interesting. Very, very interesting. Froton, let me ask you another question with the playoffs. Is it three rounds, six teams? Like, how does that work?

Six teams, yes, correct. Three rounds. So, yeah, Chris Kay going with, you know, he went, drones in the second round, which is the 12th round by, which we all know again from doing all these best balls. And then, but then he goes with Chandler Morris. I'm assuming that's who the placeholder's for. Yes. Yes. Um, there. So you can see him even like covering his, his self there. Yeah, three, three QBs in the first nine rounds. So he's, he's going

pretty aggressive. Yep. And one of them is King. Well, if you, if you're going to take Haynes King, you're going to want to make sure you have a pretty strong QB3 as well due to that schedule that Georgia Tech has. Yeah. It's been fairly covered, especially now with the best ball situation since you have to be a little bit more stringent about schedules in the best ball world, of course, because now you have playoffs. Yeah. And 12, 13, 14. And obviously, Georgia Tech, not a good stretch run with Miami, Florida by NC State. Georgia down the stretch.

Tough run. Tough run down. The first half is pretty manageable, but you got three buys because you have the Florida State game on August 24th. So if you're going to go with any Georgia Tech guys, make sure that you have your flanks covered.

It's sort of what it comes down to. And that's what Mr. Kay is doing. Great deal at 9-9. I feel like he's taking advantage of the fact that Moore still isn't in the player pool. Yeah. I love seeing this too because, you know, maybe gives us a little idea of what people are going to do at the Expo and, you know,

our CFF draft there. I mean, you know, you got Lobb in here and Jared and, you know, some others that are going to be there. So this is interesting. I feel like, again, I think Lob smashed it with, what he's got? Samson and Fegan, Jeheme White at running back up there. So definitely, like he's hitting on the targets that he usually hits on. So yeah, he's making his money without a doubt about that and uh, John that what I like about the way he drafts is he doesn't really get swayed by ADP.

He has his rankings. He has, you know, he pretty much has his board laid out and he's going to stick to it. And he's, I don't want to say a slate to it, but he's, he makes sure that he's getting his guys. He knows who he wants. and he's got conviction. So I always like seeing what John's doing because he, I know that his takes are pure

and it's not something that, like he likes standing on his own when it comes to his opinions. So I do, I do always kind of make sure to take a look at what he's doing. Yeah. And I like the value of those running backs.

And not only him, but a lot of those running backs in that seventh through ninth round territory. Like you getting again, Justice Haynes, right, with your last pick there. you know, Samson, Fegan, Singleton Cook, Caleb Jackson. These are all guys.

Man, speaking of Caleb Jackson, our boy, 240? And they're saying he's kept his, like, speed on exclusiveness. I mean, we're talking about, like, that's Leonard Fournett. I mean, that's where he came into Tomlin. The only thing is, is you get a little, there's the Rahim Sanders side of that, too. Oh, he's 240. Yeah, but it was obvious that Sanders did not keep his speed, you know, at that size.

It was palpable. Yeah, there's no way around that. But your point is totally valid. I'm right there with you. I'm just having a little fun with the Ream Sanders situation. But, yeah, I mean, Caleb Jackson is, I've been trying to draft him as much as I can. Definitely in the best ball. He's been a darling.

I mean, why wouldn't you have him? Getting him, where did he get eight to in the eighth round? I was hoping he'd in the room on the Zoom call, I purposely even said something to Luke. And I was like, oh, man, you had to take, you had to take Caleb Jackson because I looked at him at 7 too. But I'm like, I got to wait on that. You know, like there was a pocket of the receivers.

I wanted Bond and then I'd be cool with it. Oh, good job. Good job. Yeah. And, you know, you just hope that they really lean on him the way that he's capable of and his past protection can be at least up to snuff. Yeah, you're up.

So I won't speak too much. I'll let you take over here. I don't know a deal. It's a two-minute time. Yeah, I was just saying, like, I hope his past protection is, you know, up to par so they can play him quite a bit because this is my only concern with Josh Williams there.

Dude, back in Daniels. Oh, I love it. In the 10th round, I mean. Shooting for the moon. I mean, end of the 10th and a 14 team, So that pushes things down a little bit. I've had a lot of Jalen Daniels. I think we've done plenty of drafts we've seen here that I've had them.

It's just a health question. And he knows the six-point passing touchdown leagues. Everything about them plays. They're going to have a great first half of the schedule. The schedule in general, I think, is very palatable. But it's the first end. My concern with Kansas is simply it's their offensive line. You know, they lose Dominic Poonie.

They had a lot of shows. shuttling around. It's a lot of transfers coming in. So I want to see what happens in terms of how they gel based on what they lose from this year or next. New offensive coordinator, incomes, Grimes from Baylor and BYU fame. Out goes Cottle, Nicky. So there is some conjecture about what happens there. It's not as clean a transition you'd like to see. But, man, everything's in place. The entire wide receiver core comes back. It's all proven. Is it all proven. as long as they can keep him upright, they were able to have their best season since 2007 with a backup quarterback.

And even he got hurt for a little while. They had a third stringer come in for a little bit. So it's like they were able to do all that under such duress that if an actually legitimately talented guy like Daniels is able to just stay healthy, I think they could be real good. But, you know, that's why he's going in. at the end of the 10th round, see how it all materializes. But there's question marks of one injuries. You got to take shots where you can.

Anything else in this three-round range grab you? Well, Jane and Daniels in the 10th round is a type of value that wins you leagues, right? You got to take those type of risk. And Lance Leopold, to me, is one of the best offensive minds in college football. Like, I just think he's done it at every level, right? He did the G5 with Buffalo. He did it with Wisconsin Whitewater, wherever he was. at the D3 level.

I mean, if there's a question mark for them to have, offensive line is the one you want to have because that's the one he constantly builds. And they're always solid no matter what happens because that's what Lance Leopold does. So I imagine Jeff Grimes will be an organizational guy, right? But hopefully Leopold's fingerprints are still all over the system and the offense. Yep.

And I'll tell you, I'm on deck, obviously, before we get into a little bit more of this. I'm going to give you the setup. Just went QB, running back QB. I feel like I got four running backs here, so I'm in fairly decent shape. I'll want to try to do something about Justice Haynes down the board here. You know, even though I'm not, as we've discussed, big on jam,

I wouldn't mind just putting a fence around that situation. And that's kind of, that's what I'm going to look to do here with Texas. Yeah. If Mike doesn't take, and I don't see any reason why he would, he's just gone wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver here. I would think he'd pivot. I'm going to take Jontay Cook to just make sure that no matter what happens, 11th round 14th team league, I'm going to be able to have everything that happens in Texas. So if Cook ends up becoming the outside threat and just dominates, fine.

If it's Isaiah Bonn, fine. I'm going to get one of them in that spot that is going to dominate in a prolific 40 point per game offense that is a class team of the SEC. So that's where I guess roster to construction, just a little bit of my philosophy comes in is when I get a piece of a prolific room, if there's the opportunity to present to itself, and there it is, I'm going to take it and I'm going to make sure that I make it mine because somebody's going to get a thousand and eight. plus out of that room, probably a thousand and ten. And I'll know who it is by week three or four and I'll be able to hit the stride cooking. So I'm going to get something out of that spot to go with, I feel like I already got it with Stewart. And obviously love Bernard, which I'd like to. I wouldn't mind throwing a little, you know, secondary shot at that too.

We've got room to work with here. You know, we've got 30 spots. Yeah. So this is a traditional best ball-sized roster you can play with. So it is a little bit into the roster construction of what I'm looking at here, since I feel like I have a hammer and gente, I can go and afford to put the fence around those, you know, the wide receiver room a little bit.

Any thoughts beyond that teams that you see anything along those lines here from beyond that? I just, I think the way that you've, your roster in particular is like awesome. I love it. I think the upside of it is like crazy. Concepcion and the end of the fourth and then Jeremy Bernard. Like if Bernard hits, if not right, like you can come back and get, we won't talk about who you can get because you know who to get. But, you know, whoever you decide to pair him up with and lock down that room. I mean, holy cow, like if you lock down Alabama and Texas, you know, all across the board, these are high powered offenses.

Yeah, I love what you do with the Oregon guys too. Where you got Evan Stewart, I love that value there. I know he's a guy. Tess is going before him, but I mean, he almost dropped to the third round, you know, in a 14-team league. I love that value. And then every time I feel like every time I take James in the second round, Josh says something to me about. He likes how he took James in the second round. I'm a believer in him this year.

And so just being able to get those guys where you did at the start of your draft. is great and you've just carried it on. I really love how it's shaping up for you. Yeah, and no, thanks guys. I mean, we try to do our best. We'll see how it works out. I do think that Renner is doing pretty good on the turn here, too, getting Gordon and Marty,

but then Nico and Garrett, Nussmeyer, I can't argue with that in a situation where there's a QB premium, where they're going a little bit quicker than I think we're anticipating. And then he just goes and makes that hard pivot to the wide receiver room. Taking the chance on McBride here at 1014, which is somebody we talked about a little bit that's going on with the Champions League right now.

I think I think Kay took him in the most recent league and got a pretty darn good deal out of it, where allegedly he's only supposed to miss one game, apparently. Really? Is that it? I don't know. I don't know. Who knows? You know what I mean?

But look at in a league like this at the end of the 10th round, your wide receiver 4, what a great shot that is where whenever you get him back, he's in the middle of that prolific run and shoot offense. I think that's a pretty good read here by renter. Maybe not so much with L.J. Martin being dinged up. We'll see about that, of course. But I do think he did all right with that build approach. Yeah, I like to do that with Nico and Garrett.

there's good stacking options later in the draft for both LSU and Tennessee. Like he could come back around with Brazil at some point here, who's had a really good camp so far, or even Brue McCoy late, if he wanted to take a shot there. And then he also, you know, Chris Hilton, Zavian Thomas, C.J. Daniels. I don't think C.J. Daniels has gone. I haven't seen him at least go. No, yeah.

All those are late stacking options for LSU. That could be turned out to be a solid wide receiver too, you know? We're seeing quite a wide receiver run here. If you take a look at that after I went with Cook, it's tight ends and wide receivers for that run. We see Jeremiah Smith goes, there he is. You take him in round 11, nice. Yeah.

Do Lobb don't care. No, he doesn't care. I like it. And let's face it, that's wrong where he's going, that we drafts him too. Josh, you're usually getting them around 13, 14, right? Yep, yep. Same thing.

That's 14 team lane. It's how it is. And it goes right to mom. Ross. Meredith. Meritif. Maritaine. He's having a good camp. Meredith's having a very good camp.

McEwen is a guy that I just think is, we're going to look back, and he's going to be one of those guys where it's like, man, why did we let him drop so far in these drafts? I just feel like he's going to be, he's going to have a great year in that offense. I don't know who else it's going to be. He's, the reports have been pretty solid. He had a good spring. I'm trying to remember what I was reading. I don't know if it was a report going into camp, but just expecting.

him to really step up and be that lead guy for that receiver room. And again, you're getting him here in the 11th round. And he's just a guy that I just think at the end of the year, we're going to look back and like, man, such a good value in all these droughts. And he hasn't really risen at all. I kind of thought maybe we'd see him rise a little bit as we got closer to the season, but he's stayed pretty steady where he's at. So he's definitely got, I really like that value where he's going right now. Yeah, that's a nice job. Chris Benzine. Chris Benzine, in the playoffs last year in this FSGA league, that was an 18 team league. So he was in the playoffs, and I think he might have been in the finals or in the very least he went to the semis against Jared.

Did a great job last year. Just take a look at he's doing. Man, the Mafa Giddens combo. Gojador, round three. This is just, again, the continuation of the best ball, Mania rise that we've seen out of Shador Sanders. I mean, you have to call it that, right? It's the underdog rise. Yeah. I got him, again, I got him, I think, in the 10th round, 11th round of our recently, actually, I don't think he's gone of our recent draft,

but with the way he's going in the second round of those P4 bestball drafts, that's just how it is. That's the new normal. So even though, according our ADP, that is. is, you know, that's high. You know, I believe in it. You know, I'm in. I think they're just going to be throwing the ball, obviously, a lot.

Yeah. Could it all implode? I think it absolutely could. And if it does, goodbye to my best ball teams. Which, fair enough, you know, that's how it goes. But 311, you see that. Jamal Pritchett, you know, 4-4, definitely somebody who should be stepping into the vacated Colin Lacey role.

I mean, it is linearly, that's what you'd expect. Maybe Voicin picks up some of those targets and out of these back. And then I would say that this is pretty rare to see Gadsden go 5-11 and have Fannin go ahead of them. Yeah. That hasn't happened very often. Yep. No, that's a good point. Yeah, actually, I have a comment on Jamal Pritchett.

Let's take a break real quick and then come back and then get your next pick here. Yeah, I mean, Jamal Pritchett. He had that game with Gio Lopez in the bowl game where he just absolutely went off and had a great game. And so, you know, I definitely think that Jamal Pritch is good value there. And yeah, Fanda going ahead of Gatson is, yeah, and not that I think that's a bad pick whatsoever. But, yeah, you don't see that very often. But I like Gatson, man. Sorry.

Where's Cole Wilson gone? He was a guy that's kind of started to rise a little bit. Cole Wilson has been Hold on the clock. Oh yeah, go ahead and make your pick. I was just trying to look for him. So, yeah, I'm looking for two here. I just assumed, oh, there, I just saw, I think the door take him eight one.

Okay. There he is. Because he's a guy that's really been in some of these drafts starting to go on like the sixth or seventh round. So quite a jump kind of at the top for one of the receivers, at least we've seen in the ADP. So that seems like that's probably pretty good value then going in the eighth round here. Yep. I'm going to go with Parker Jenkins. Houston, I feel like we're right at the end of a tier in the running back front.

And that this is that, you know, with the running backs, you get that good soft spot from six to like 10. Yeah. And then you get that, the extension of that next tier. I feel like we're right about at it. and that's why I kind of decide I'll go with Jenkins pivot a little bit I don't really need any more wide receivers the time being I can I can kind of sit tight and then take a look and say all right

get that running back feel like I got five pretty good ones right here and then be able to say alright QE is it QB time sorry about that and go from there we will probably what I soon we're going to do is, and I'll give Jared a heads up as soon as I make this pick,

we'll probably be slowing it down now at this point. He said after round 13 is what Jared said on you. After round 13. Okay, good. No, after 13.1, you're right. It is going to slow down to four hours. He'll do that. That sounds good to me. No problem. Regardless, so it'll keep going a little bit, and we can do it. Wow. Okay, Renner takes Krosky Merritt for Arizona. I like seeing what Renner is doing. because he's very tapped in, Mike Brenner,

formerly a PFF, now with CBS, a well-known NFL draft expert. Yeah. And he, I don't get to do many drafts with him. We don't see his opinion. So the fact that he is taking Kroski merit

definitely sends up some signal flows here because we're at the end of a tier. You know, he's, I just took Jenkins, so I feel is right there. And Kroski, that's,

you can make a case for just about anyone. way to go in that 13-1 spot. So the fact that he went there really, really takes a little something off for me. And I'm sure that that's same for you guys, you know. What is Renner tapped in here is the question? So as soon as the draft resumes, I will get on this. But yeah, what do you think? Yeah.

No, I mean, I think it is interesting with, you know, you had Kraski-Merry and his crazy relationship there. Arizona. Remember that? Went there. Went to, you know, went to Old Miss, came back once I think Damien Martinez, you know, was kind of done flirting with Arizona. But that's been an interesting relationship. But yeah, I mean, really good back, really, you know, good opportunity there. I think they got, what, him and Conley. Is Conley hurt, though? Did he, did he get hurt? Oh, he is. That's, I believe in camp, he's been a little banged up, yes. Yeah. So, yeah,

and then, you know, Dino Babers is, had some really good running back start of his days as you know coming from the you know the veer and shoot system so absolutely all right here here i'm on the clock i want a third cuby here i feel like most teams already do i've i've sandbagged a little bit and held off and i feel really good above what is happening in year two over at uab with our friend the great trent Dillfer, Trent Dilfer, a Super Bowl of QB,

isn't going there to rest on his laurels. They have a phenomenal schedule, according to Phil's deal, 120th in the country. I mean, pretty much the only no-go they have is Arkansas. And with the way that Zeno

does have, you know, accuracy, just in terms of, I know that, like, they have a short, precision offense,

almost like extended handoffs. I believe it's A-DOT was somewhere in like, it was ridiculous. He was like six and a half yards of target depth for Zeno. But he completed almost 74% of his passes. You know, year two of their system, they have six offensive linemen who started five games last year. And the two more transferers coming in.

And that's after, you know, Dill had to go and sift through all that stuff. So he's got his personnel in line. They got seven starters coming back. I'm in. You know, they scored 30 points. a game last year, three for $2.90 a game. This is a six-point passing touchdown league. I think they're probably going to be in the 35 range now,

considering the schedule they play. Give me a QB3 in Jacobsino. Has, I didn't see him go, but I could. I guess it says resumed. I can't make a pick. I'll try to do it again. Whatever. Once it comes back, I'll be taking Jacob Zeno.

Okay. Oh, interesting. Whatever. We'll figure it out, but that's what's coming along here. No problem. Thoughts. So the one thing about Zeno, I really like him. So last year he's a little bit inconsistent with his value in fantasy, but I think we'll see a jump up this year, year two in the system, which we typically will see a pretty solid jump.

And that's the only thing when I was going through projections with him that stuck out is I love what he can do, a little inconsistent. but projecting more consistent to him. I mean, he could be right in the top 25 of the quarterbacks this year and getting him as a QB3. I mean, that's a really solid value there. I think you're getting a guy that essentially would be a starter if he hits that potential and you have him as QB3. And going after some of these guys, not that I dislike him,

but Bowman at Oki State, Vario, who could have, a solid year, but a new system, I don't really know what to expect. So just where getting Zeno at, that just seems like it's a pretty good, it was a pretty good idea to wait and still get him in 13, too, after some of those other guys went. So I like that value a lot. Yeah, and some, you look at this run, and he's only one of, as we talked about, three QBs from that 11 to 13 range. you know you see these runs manifest especially just speaking to the qbs where they'll just hit real quick and you'll get those bursts and then it lays down and in the meantime just look at the proliferation of the wide receivers you know a guy like nick nash really good really good second half uh has all the alpha makings blank um see he's a guy who memphis i mean it fits the 35 35, power 3 wide receiver model,

where you have a potent offense going to score 35 points, it's going to be throwing 35 passes a game. And while Rock Taylor is there, man, Blankhamsey, he got a lot of work as that slot receiver too. It's not like he's out there being ignored. And unlike the NFL where you want

that dominant alpha outside threat, you don't have to do that. It's not always that archetype. in college fancy football. And I'm really intrigued to see what Blankhamcy does just as a product of that offense and, in fact, he's fairly dependable. And then a guy that I've been drafting a lot,

Will Shepard here at 12-7. You know, it's kind of right around where he's been going pretty consistently. Like, that's round 14, 13 in a 12-teen league. Just another product of the Colorado system. anything else that you see here from those recent picks from round 10 on. Yeah. For me, what sticks out to me is Jordan Waters.

I mean, that's usually where he goes, maybe even a little bit lower. But man, I just think he's going to be really good value because NC State, whenever I read a lot of their beatwriters, they're just constantly mentioning him as a guy that's going to be an impact player in the offense, and he's going to be the dominant RB1, and to get a dominant RB1. a system that like it looks like it's going to produce like they're saying this is the best offense that offensive that offensive talent that NC state has had as long as they can remember and then you pair that with Robert and I I just think this is going to be an offense that kind of to

your you know your point of like targeting high powered offenses they're going to score a lot of points I think NC state's going to be in that mold and that that schedule is like soft it's a really easy schedule. And so. Very soft. Yeah. I like that. I mean, you have a week 12 by, but this is a round 12 guy. He's your fourth, fifth, running back. So I like them in that range.

Yeah, and they got a veteran line. 95 starts return. They bring over Zeke Correll from Notre Dame, who started 10 games for the Irish last year, is going to plug him right in. And this is a team that scored only on once to like 26, 26 and a half points per game last year.

You could see them in the mid 30s, I think very easily considering. There's only two. And the good thing about them is you get Tennessee and Clemson out of the way in the first four weeks, you know, week two, Tennessee, week four Clemson. And then it's on. It's a straight go from week five on where you start them every single week, every NC state guy you got that's on that, you know,

has established themselves as worth doing. And you could see a secondary wide receiver like Noah Rogers. Absolutely. Dakari Paulin, somebody could emerge outside of Concepcion, who's that all over the formation kind of a weapon. Like, there's no reason why a downfield threat can't come out of this. The beat writers are, beat writers are saying that Noah Rogers is the most talented wide receiver on that roster. Well, I mean, he was in Ohio State top 10 five star wide receiver recruit. Yeah.

You know, it's like you just happen to be in there behind Keon Gray's, him and Keon Gray's, both transferred out. They're like, oh, if Inis is here. come Jeremiah, Pates taking a spot. Forget it. Like those guys saw the running on the wall. Like, great. Ohio State's loss, and it's not even a loss, it's just NC State's gain. And that's, you know, a large reason why I look to Concepcion as well. So another good call on that. Anything out of you, Zach, before. One guy that I'm becoming a lot more

interested in is Stewart at Toledo. And Proton, I think you like him quite a bit. he's a guy i i didn't start out super high on him but when you really look at what he he's a guy you've almost kind of i feel like i've kind of been waiting for him to to be that guy and last year behind boon he was still pretty solid i mean he put up some some weeks that not monster weeks that are going to win you anything but uh he did a lot um with really limited touches in a lot of his games he found the end zone a little bit. So I'm intrigued to see how he does in that RB1 role in that offense.

We know that Toledo running back is going to be super valuable. And if he takes that thing and runs with it, he's another guy that I just kind of look in this range where it's like, man, I wish I would have taken more of him, especially, you know, getting him in round 11 here. And he's just a guy that I feel like, yeah, end of the year we're like, man missed on him had had opportunity and and let him let him drop in these drafts and and this is early for jock wester i mean yeah it is rotan you were getting them round 19 20 21 um yeah i want to say like i want to say i want to say early on 19 20 21 and then started kind of being more in the 1415 range i think as no great value it was just still great values and and this is fine here

like we said, it's 14-team format. The thing is, I think the one thing that kind of keeps him from breaking into that top 10 into a more prominent tier is even though Toledo has been dominant under the Jason Candle era and then Matt Campbell before him, they have zero line starts returning for their offensive line. Zero starts. They lose literally everybody from last year's line that propelled Penny Boone and Zarquez-Steward to prominence.

Even though they play a very soft schedule, you know, they have a Mac schedule. It just seems like the entire Mac, in terms of their scoring, has been so depressed, it's become just sort of like a defense conference. Because anytime you get a talented offensive player in the passing game generally, be it a quarterback or a wide receiver, they're gone. They're gone. So it's just kind of gone back to being a more three yards in a cloud of dust sort of a situation. unfortunately and that's really what I think kind of inhibits Jarquette Stewart is just what

it what does it look like in a defense oriented conference now when you're rebuilding the entire offensive line um but still Toledo's Toledo and they reload like no one else in the Mac yeah I haven't looked at it for the for the Mac but I'm doing a Sunbelt preview tomorrow night um with some guys and looking at the returning production in the Sunbelt I mean it's atrocious I mean, a lot of these teams are in the bottom 20 in returning production and the Sunbelt. And, you know, Zach and I were talking about it off air this week and going, man, is this what the G5 is going to be from now on? Like, any player does good at all. They're moving up.

They're just a farm system for the P4. And so therefore, like, you're just going to have limited returning production every year and they're just going to get hose. You know, I don't know. it's kind of a sad state of affairs. Yeah, the other thing to go along with that that we all talk about is they do get transfers coming in, but they're guys that are unproven usually from a P4, right? It's somebody that we just haven't seen and we don't know if they're going to produce, which makes it even more challenging because you just don't know who's going to pop on some

of these teams. But it's making the G5 really tough to get a feel for what you're going to get from them. And then back to, I think we talked about this earlier, just the MAC, the schedules that these teams have too, right? The MAC is playing so many Big 10 ACC teams, which makes it even more difficult to just really know. And the thing that will happen is those are early season games. So a guy like Stewart might struggle first three weeks. But then once he gets into the MAC, maybe he turns it on a little bit. But it can be a challenge with those guys at the G5.

one thing I was reading today on 247 sounds like Will Howard is starting to kind of take control of that job and I'm wondering if that's going to change where he starts to go in these drafts. I know it seemed like he's going a little bit higher than started to drop off kind of towards the end of spring. But you just think about that offense and really what we we've gotten with Chip Kelly and a quarterback that can run the ball and just the value we could get with him. So I'm really curious to see as he kind of starts to take control of that, that QB1 job, if that's going to change where he goes. Because if it doesn't, he could turn out to be a pretty solid value too with where he's going right now.

Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. And with that note, I have just switched to sharing. a different screen, and this is the champion series. I figure we might as well finish up with this, since we tried about the FSGA a little bit here, and sort of give a juxtaposition between, all right, look at the FSGA,

and this is what the current, I'm literally on the clock right now. Kyle is freaking out because I've been doing the other draft and him on this, so he's going to kill me. So here we are, here's a difference. And what I want to show is, take a look. at the QBs. Again, we are in pick eight, nine. Okay. The last one, Shador Sanders was not available. He was taken in the third round, you know, at the beginning of the third round. Preston Stone was taken much earlier than that.

There's Champlain Morris, as we had discussed as well. All those guys still on here, still on the board here in the eighth round. you see the different style of this 12-team league where the QBs fall a little bit more. You see Hanigan going to go in the sixth round. He was a second-rounder. Actually, you might even been a first-I think he was a second-rounder before. So was Jackson-Arnell. It was a second-rounder in that 14-team format. Kyrn-Drones was a second-rounder.

Jalen Milro went, I think, sixth overall, right? Yeah. So you're looking at the difference in these two QB markets, and Nussmeier went in the third round, or maybe like fourth. Yeah. So you've seen just how different this marketplace is, which makes it also a little more confusing how Jail and Daniels goes 8-2 here to you. Yep.

Josh. But then in a QB heavy 14-team environment, he goes 10, 13. So it kind of illustrates, you know, we had talked about it a little bit, but that really does kind of illustrate it better than we can showing you how that is kind of an anomaly considering what we're used to seeing. Yeah, for sure. Hey, can we, Froton, can we take a quick break and add some suspense to your pick? Let's take a break here. We're back. All right, Kyle, rest easy.

So, as you can see here, just we'll go right to my team again. I'll set it up real quickly. Went with burden at four. I let Teteroa fall because of the injury discussion. I think that's just kind of how it is. Went with Ricky White on the way back. I like Evan Stewart as well like I did in the last draft, but Ricky White is just such a short thing at UNLV.

I think he's going to be just fine. Had to pivot to running back. Mottie, Allen, Cooley, dropping. He was kind of a third rounder early on in the summer, but the lack of receptions really kind of takes a little bit of the steam out of them. You see Judkins going in 5-7 here, whereas he went, at I believe the end of the third round, you know, in the last draft. And Henderson goes 6-7, which is kind of what we see we had seen.

Pretty close. I think he went a little later than that. But I think, you know, a round is fine. But you get in like the two, three-round territory. That's just too much of a spread between those two. It kind of goes for Baxter falling a little bit too here that I don't think was the case in the other draft. And also we want to take a look at Camp Cook here of underdog best ball fame. Going in the 12th round, 13th round of those early drafts due to EADP,

just goes to show you that this is indicative of where Cam Cook has been going in our leagues. Here we are at 612 in the entire landscape on a 12-team league where you have the G5 teams as well. He's going in the 12th round of P4-only best balls with underdog simply because of an ADP, you know, infraction. Just goes to show what the inconsistency is. So because once again, I went heavy on the skill players, as I have been, you know, there's no secret to, I think, those who listen to the show. But first seven rounds, bang, heavy skill. I'll go with the pivot now. You know, let me see.

Let me just give a quick. See, the good thing is slow draft, so I can give this McBride. I don't think we're there yet. Kyle Williams, interesting. Obviously, Isaiah Bond. I took him. Oh, you got Travis Hunter. here too Anderson yeah this is like your your playground right this is this is my will dintel boston my dudes

those too many of them available here like you know what it was it's this big stretch look at how many wide receiver was like none i'm the one who went wide receiver during the mega stretch here oh good job frotone yeah let's let's go wide receiver when everybody's taken everything else you see like mccall that's earlier than usual right before underdog nuss Meyer. So it's interesting. Even Jackson Arnold was going and Cam Ward, we're all going around later. I'm Jalen Daniels, who I took. I was like, man, I got to get somebody as my QB2 before all of this. And so I'm going to grab the nice schedule in Jalen Daniels. Yep, yep. But oh, man, there he is. Oh, man, Caleb Jackson. Oh, how do I say no? You have some dilemmas here,

my friend. Oh, I say no to Caleb. You know what it is? I've got, I went. I went early with the light out so pretty good I like another running back to make myself feel a little better like one more and I feel like after they just got pounded here pounded

this is we're getting to the end of a tier here I don't feel everyone's nervous about Tamarian Harden now he has dropped pretty much more than any other running back I can think of from end of spring till now without anything happening yeah Jacobius Marx he had like

Two yards after con. I'm concerned. I'm concerned. I think Bainbridge even, I think he was picking him like the fourth round early on. I think you would. I probably had to turn at him the fourth round at some point, too, until cooler heads prevailed. All right. Looking at all this, as you know, all I want to do is just sit here and wait on QBs.

I don't want to take a QB if I don't have to. Yeah. But Clint doesn't have one. Debbie Warehouse, Greg, has one. Katz already has two, but we know for a fact that Andrew Katz is going to take Chandler Morris. He's available.

This is your last shot. This is your last shot for a time. That's happening. Snipe them on air. That's happening. It's a guarantee. It's just I want to feel better about the running backs are coming back to me.

This is what I'm thinking here. I like kinder. I can get down with that. And these guys all just went running back there last time. So I might be able to sneak him through. I don't think I would. Let's be honest. Let's be honest.

I'm not sneaking. I'm not sneaking him back through. Kinder? Is that you saying? No, I'm not sneaking Caleb Jackson back through. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's not getting back.

So I can sit here. The good old days are gone. I can play the QV. Yeah, the good old days have flown. Yeah. So I could play. the QB game where I think Greg will probably take one. And I know Kloin will take at least one.

He might take two. I don't want to risk him taking my guys. So, yeah, I'm going to do it to him. I'm going to do it to him. Sorry, Katz. Golf clap. Give me my channel, Morris. Might be getting a DM from Katz later on this one.

Sorry about that. Oh, Isaiah Bond. See, Bond. He's right there. Right there in that group. That's a good deal compared I got him in the 14 tamer. Oh, man.

Now Katz is on the clock. We're not picking for the rest of the night. Now Katz is. Yeah. You're right. That'll pretty much wrap it, won't it? Anything since we have this, let me pull this on down. One thing that I've noticed, and I grabbed him in round three, Jalen Royals really dropped.

Yes. You know, which is interesting to me. Obviously, the coaching situation there is kind of what's driving that. but we just had Micah Davis transfer out. We haven't really heard if Royals is going to. If Royals stays, to me, that's excellent value because I just don't see that offense really changing. He's still going to be the guy in that offense. So it might be a little bit risky because I think they still have a little bit of time to transfer out.

And he still could do that. And that would hurt my roster a little bit there because I'd be pretty light on receiver. but at 3-5, I was like, man, it just felt like a great value. But I don't think I've seen him drop that far yet in the draft. That's the usually you can get him. It's kind of moved closer to the end of round two, but I hadn't seen him drop to round three yet. Yeah, that's a really good point.

Yeah, I think, you know, I think it's interesting, you know, other guys that, like Cole Wilson by Bainbridge, I know he's really high on him, goes up to the fifth round to grab him, where I believe he was grabbing them in the double digits, like 10th, 11th round before maybe. So to see him go that high was pretty interesting. And then Noah Smith also dropping to the eighth round. I feel like that's a little bit of drop.

Yeah, what's fun about this draft is we've been drafting with these same guys for this is what, like our 11th draft in this series. So you almost get to a point where you're trying to, you're like, all right, I know they've taken. somebody at this round, so I got to jump up a round or two. So it almost turns into a game if you want to grab one of these guys and it can drive that ADP up a little bit. Or in some cases you see like, you know, some of these guys fall, which is always

interesting to me that Noah Smith is that, again, that's probably the farthest he's fallen in this draft since we've started these. But it's always kind of fun to see how that game plays out in some of these drafts. Yeah. The only thing I see on there is that Mike Bainbrose, sniped me on Avery Johnson when he already had two QBs and Dart and Nico. I was so mad because I'm like, all right, I'm going to grab Jamal Pritchett. He's not going to hit a QB there at all.

And then he hit, of course, like I have Avery Johnson in so many of these. And so it's just like, this is going to be, I'm going to pull this. I'm going to get Jackson Arnold or Jalen Daniels on the way back. It'll be fine. Cam Ward. No, no. It's like Bainbridge was playing chess. I was playing checkers.

He knew exactly what I was. I was trying to do. And he just, I won't put it on the air, but he said a little F you to me for sure. And I appreciate it. Thanks. Thanks. You know, it's hard for me to feel bad for him when I was getting Jackson Dart right at rain in the sixth round for the first like three or four of these.

And Bainbridge has decided at 312, that was enough. He's like, that's enough of your Jackson Dart values for a time. He's like, he's like, get your, he's like, I'm going to get my guy. I don't care. That's what he's done this draft. It's like, I don't care. Even Strepo. My guy's draft out of Bambridge.

That you see at Samson, a little bang, bang is nice too. Yeah, but he went with Strepo like two, like the first pick of the second round, which is, you know. Flagland. Earlier than, yeah. He wasn't going to go Joey Hobert knowing how much he loves Cole Wilson, you know? We know that. That's probably the highest we've seen her Strepo go. I don't know if I've seen him go that high.

Yeah, borderline. Yeah. Yeah, you know, Bainbridge does what he's doing now. So it'd be a good pick of sharing. We're just lucky that we're not NFL guys where if somebody goes three picks ahead of ADP, then they're like, oh, hey, God, it's unsufferable. It's so, it's so ridiculous because we're used to seeing this where it's like, oh, my God, this guy went five rounds before it usually goes. Cole Wilson. He's usually going in around, you know, 10.

here he is in round five. Well, yeah, totally. But at the same time, it's like, oh, all right,

yeah. So he's getting some steam. You got to do what you got to do to get you dudes. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So much better than,

so much better than pro fantasy football. But we all know that. A ton of fun. Let me ask you guys a quick question before we hop off tonight. Is there any been any news? I asked you and I was, I should have just asked the question. But is there,

you know, we've had what, a week of fall camp two weeks for like a Florida state or week zero teams. Is there been anything? Like what's been the most either surprising news or the news that's been the best news for you like so far through the first week of camp? Anything exciting you through this first week? Oh, but exciting.

I feel like it's not so much guys that are going up first week of camp sort of thing. It's more like who's going down. Yeah. Yeah. Where's some of those guys? you know LJ Martin right out of the gate says oh he's going to be week to week

he's going to miss some time he's okay well that's a problem Tetero McMillan I mean I took Luther a burden over him here he still goes six overall but you have to have some concerns about you just you just have to it's natural Will Pauling I'll throw him on there too

you know hopefully that was just gamesmanship by Luke Fickle but perhaps he was really alluding to the desire to spread the ball around a little bit more and not rely on one receiver because they were fairly limited in year one of him taking over Wisconsin. But, you know, my friend Jared, our friend, the great Jared, he does not believe in that. So I do not want to, you know, get too far ahead.

I want to make sure I'm offering the counterpoint. Fair and balanced, my man, Jared. He does, he's fine with Pauling. So at 410, that's still pretty damn good value. Yeah. I think one of the big ones, obviously Louisville, right? Jacori Brooks kind of getting a lot of talk in camp, trying to figure out who's going to be that wide receiver one there.

We were all kind of thinking, oh, maybe it's Chris Bell, now it's Jacory Brooks. What about Colin Lacey, right? So that one to me, it's going to be one to watch for sure and kind of see it. It seems like it's hard to really know when you're only a couple days in camp. I think it's going to be more substantial when we're a week, two weeks in, but that's going to be a fun one. I know when me and Josh are watching pretty closely is going to be Washington State QB. One day it's John Mateer that looks like QI one, and then the next day it's at Cal's who's throwing dimes. So that's one that I'm watching.

And again, that one's been back and forth. It just seems like every other day it's the other guy that's kind of showing up. So those are two that I've really kind of been starting to pay attention to as far as news. I don't think we have anything real final yet, but it's been fun. And then the other one, CJ Daniels was running with first team, I believe, which is a little different than what we were seeing in the spring where he wasn't. He was one of those guys where he was getting drafted as wide receiver one for LSU to start when he transferred in. and then he really fell off in the spring. I mean, I want to say you could get him pretty late in drafts.

So running with the ones a little bit now, so that'll be interesting to see how he bounces back in these drafts and what that's going to look like. Because obviously a talented guy feels like he could be really good in that system. So definitely interested to see how that pans out. And if he continues to run with the ones there. Yeah, I like, those are all the ones I'm looking at. I mean, LSU definitely a wide receiver room and running back room.

I feel like they're all values, ones to look at. Noah Rogers and the consistent drumbeat, right, of information throughout the offseason and then coming into, I know, fall camp and him keeping it up has made me excited about him as a later around guy. And then I think Chris Brazel, too, at Tennessee, he had that big highlight. with Nico. I kind of went viral three or four days ago, but if you can keep it up. Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off.

No, you're great. I was just going to say one, I just thought of it, and I didn't want to forget. Chris Kleiman was saying, they want to split the carries between five guys this year, so keep that one in the Giddens. That's why DJ Giddins is free now. And then you got Avery Johnson, who's going to take some of those as well. So I thought

that was an interesting comment. He listed five guys he wants to get carries this year. which I think is, you know, I don't think that's how that's really going to work out, but interesting comment from him. Yeah. There was a Chris Tyree question much earlier in this about him getting injured. He did.

He was in a walking boot today. So just whoever asked that, they don't know yet. They don't think the severity is too bad on him, maybe one to two weeks. Yeah, did Tyree tweak something. So. And then where can I find the latest spreadsheets by Bendahoe? we got some ADP for you on the FantasyPoint site. FanTracks also has it up there.

Finally, so you can look at between the two and look at the discrepancies. We'll get those updated as well. So go ahead, Zach. Are you going to say something? No, I was just going to say I need to get that updated. I think I have a few droughts. I've got to enter in and then I'll get that updated this week on our site for everybody. That's good.

Froton. All right. Last parting words. Well, you do the parting words, Josh. You know that. You have the signature sign-off phrase. No, the words, I just fired up about the season. I'll be going to Bet Bash tomorrow in Las Vegas for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. And then I will be heading to the Expo in Canton for Friday, Saturday, Sunday, where I will be seeing none other than Josh Chevalier. Believe it or not, we've seen Josh Chavale there. Zach, you're not going, are you?

I'm not. I don't think you're going. Bainbridge is not going. He backed out. He got married this summer. He's done so much travel, and he's gassed. Bruno would miss him anyways, his English bulldog. He would put his sad face on.

We can't have Bruno with a sad face. So me and Josh, reppping CFF All Access, will have our boy, Jared, as well as the great John Lobb fellow OG and Jeff Bell from the football guys. He will be doing a panel of college fantasy football and C2C and how that can help cross over to the NFL. So big weekend and week coming up, very excited about it. Thank you very much for watching.

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