Fantasy Football Daily - Green Bay Packers with Aaron Nagler | 2023 Franchise Focus Podcast

Episode Date: July 15, 2023

It's a season for change on the Frozen Tundra, and Packer fans are legitimately excited for something new. Aaron Nagler (@AaronNagler) of @CheeseheadTV joins Joe Dolan (@FG_Dolan) to talk Jordan Love's outlook, the young Packer WR corps, and whom Aaron believes to be one of the most underrated players in the NFL. As a bonus, Aaron takes the floor to stump for Sterling Sharpe to be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Want to join a high-stakes dynasty league -- or any other high-stakes league? All new FFPC users get $25 off their first FFPC league of $35 or more, including dynasty orphans, using our affiliate link: ⁠https://myffpc.com/cms/public?affid=fantasypoints⁠ ⁠FANTASY POINTS PROJECTIONS ARE LIVE⁠ FOR ALL STANDARD AND PREMIUM SUBSCRIBERS! Interested in playing Best Ball in 2023? There's no better place than Underdog Fantasy. ⁠Use our code FANTASYPTS⁠ to sign up for a new account at Underdog, and not only will you get a 100% deposit match up to $100... but you'll get a Fantasy Points Standard subscription for only $5! ⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com/underdog --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time to the Fantasy Points Podcast, brought to you by FantasyPoints.com. Top-level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room, with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. Welcome back to the Franchise Focus podcast here at FantasyPoint.com and the Fantasy Points Podcast Network. My name is Joe Dolan. I'm your host. I've been your host for the Franchise Focus podcast. We have over 20 in the books. Well, if you're listening to this, maybe over 20 or maybe just 20 even, because we have made our way through the entire AFC and the NFC East.

And I am kicking off the NFC North segment of the podcast series. I can't believe we are almost done with it. 32 of these is a massive undertaking. But again, I think it's something that's necessary. I think it's something that is going to help me. It's going to help people who listen to them. kind of prepare and get the insider perspective for each of the 32 NFL teams. And if you're listening to this podcast, it is at least July 13th.

It might even be July 17th. And I have to point out that on July 17th, which is Monday, we are releasing what we think is going to be an industry-changing product in terms of being able to do fantasy and betting research. It's called the Fantasy Points Data Suite. I am not the guy who is going to tell you the most about it. That would be Scott Barrett, Brett Whitefield, Grant Barfield, and Chris Wecht, who have put in so many hours to develop this tool. But we do believe it is going to be absolutely industry changing.

So I want you to head to FantasyPoints.com and check that out. Trust me, you will be hearing a lot more about the Fantasy Points Data Suite in the weeks, months, and years going forward. But I do still want to bring you, of course, to the main event, at least on this program, that would be the franchise focus podcast series. And if you're listening to this one, you're listening to one about the NFC North. I hope you enjoy and tune in. If you've been following the franchise focus podcast series for the now two years that I'm doing this,

you probably have looked forward to this episode because he is one of the most esteemed guests on the franchise focus podcast series. Oh, geez, Aaron, I mean that. You were awesome last year, Aaron. He's Aaron Nagler. He's the co-founder of Cheesehead TV. He's most importantly, part of the electronic music duo Motelman. And certainly, there is a lot of podcasts left here, Aaron.

I love Twitter at Aaron Nagler. Aaron, it's going to be good to talk Packers with you. How are you doing, my friend? I'm doing well, the depths of this off season, Joe, I tell you what, I'd love to talk Packers, Fantasy Football, anything to just kind of get these days behind us and get ready for training camp. Packers are one of those teams that there's always a lot to talk about. it's been that way my entire life

like not my entire life there's been a lot to talk about with the Packers this year though Aaron Rogers to Jordan Love I want to start with a general vibes question what are your vibes around this team you have your finger on the pulse of the fan base what's the fan bases kind of

vibes around this 2020 Packers team I mean personally I'm extremely excited to be turning the page and starting a new chapter right towards the end of the Aaron Rogers era, it did feel like you were kind of hanging on to a cliff, right? And just trying desperately to get back to the Super Bowl and continually falling short and seemingly getting further and further away these last few years. It just felt like it was time. And it sure feels like the franchise agreed, right? As far as the fan base, I think the majority of Packers fans

are really excited. And I think this idea that nobody expects Jordan Love to come in and be Aaron Rogers, at least not anybody with a working brain, but the idea that, okay, we're going to start a new chapter and a new kind of hopefully window. And that's the big key here, is that the Packers are a little different than most of the NFL in that they really do look at this thing through the lens of can we open another contending window, another hopefully 10 years of contention with a young quarterback who has now sat for three years and is ready to take over. It's not going to happen like that's not going to happen overnight. But this year is all about laying that groundwork, laying that foundation. And I think most Packers fans understand that and they're really

excited to see, you know, Jordan get his start. And this team kind of kicked that off, that new era, so to speak. What's the team saying about Jordan Love right now? Because it's such a hard place for him to be in. Like, you know, Aaron Rogers came in and had instant success after Brett Farve left. The team has to know that there's expectations around Jordan Love, but you also can't expect them to be a Hall of Famer. So, What are they saying about it publicly? Well, I think, well, both publicly and privately, there's a lot of quiet confidence, I think.

I mean, we heard it was funny because all the usual suspects kicked up and tried to make something out of Matt LaFleur at the owner's meeting saying, we got to pump the brakes here a little bit. You know, we got to, you know, temper expectations as far as, yeah, yes, Aaron had played very well his first year as a starter. The team won six games. You know, you can't expect this thing, again, and they just hit the ground running and they're going to win 10 games and be in the playoffs again.

I think inside the building and both publicly and privately, there's a lot of, like I said, quiet confidence that they think Jordan's ready. He just needs to play. We've heard that a lot from both Brian and Mab, especially Brian GutiCoste, where, you know, it is time in his development where he can't learn anything else sitting on the sidelines. Like at this point, he's got to be the starter weekend and week out and start taking those lumps because they're going to be there, right? Those tough stretches, games, or even, you know, stretches where defensive coordinators are throwing stuff at him that he hasn't seen before and he's got to figure it out and he's going to make his mistakes.

The biggest kind of thing here for me, and I think most of the team would probably agree, from week one to week 17, is there growth, is their development? Is there a guy who's clearly getting better week to week? And I think that's what this season is all about. what did you see from that that fourth quarter in Philadelphia that's the quarter i think packer fans point to is like we've got our next grade on hand what did you see there that you didn't see in maybe his previous start in the NFL yeah it's interesting if you juxtapose that kind of little i think you know not a ton of playing time there in Philadelphia but he does come in in a tough situation and he certainly looks night and day better comparative to just the command he had of the offense

comparative to the start he had in Kansas City. And obviously now, look, you can't blow that up into much more than it was. And I do find it funny. Some people say, well, you know, they were protecting a lead. They were playing pre-vent defense. Well, that's ridiculous. It was not a prevent defense, but they were protecting a lead. The Eagles certainly were making sure that nobody would get behind them

and trying to keep everything in front of them. That is very true. But you saw, you know, Christian Watson take one to the house on a nice route over the middle there. and you saw a quarterback in Jordan Love who really had command of the offense, not only after the snap, but pre-snap as well. You saw him making all the calls and checks and the things, just the confidence that he had in and out of the huddle at the line of scrimmage. That was night and day, comparative to that game he had in Kansas City,

where most people probably remember that as a bit of a, you know, problematic, so to speak. But I think if you go back and you watch it, he actually played pretty darn well in that game in Kansas City, considering everything that was working against him. But, yeah, it's hard not to get excited when you watch that growth, that kind of trajectory of a kid who's gotten better every time he stepped down the field. Stylistically, what are you expecting the offense to look like and how will that differ from what it look like with Aaron Rogers under center? It's a million dollar question right there. And I think, you know, a lot of Packers content creators have been spending the offseason working on that very question, right? Yeah, you've got a pack of a three-minute answer here. So, good luck.

I suspect we'll see something similar to what we saw back in 2020. I think we'll see a few more bunch sets, some condensed formations, things, a lot more motion, something that Aaron Rogers very vocally and very publicly said, you know, he didn't love. He wasn't very comfortable with it. Aaron loves to see, these are his own words, you know, I'm not putting words in his mouth, a static kind of picture that he can look at. and know, you have a good idea of what the defense is trying to do. So then he can read that and make adjustments and then snap the ball and get to it.

Whereas Matt's system, the stuff that, you know, he's drawing from the Shanahan-McVeatree, like I said, a lot of bunch stuff, a lot of motion, a lot of orbit stuff, a lot of guys crossing the formation pre-snap. I think we're going to see the return of a lot of that. Stuff that they ran in 2020 when Tyler Irvin was healthy. I think we're going to see kind of a return to that. I don't think it's going to be this huge difference.

But I do think you'll notice a few, you know, less of the spread formation stuff and a bit more of the kind of condensed running the football, play action, boot action, and things of that nature. I have to imagine this is the youngest receiving core in the NFL. Yeah, I think the numbers back that up. Yeah, Christian Watson is the oldest of the top three. here with Romeo Dobbs and Jane Reed.

Skill set-wise, though, it kind of feels like these guys fit together like a puzzle. How would you compare and contrast the skill set of Christian Watts and Romeo Dobbs and then, of course, the rookie Jaden Reed, who I think is kind of flying under the radar a little bit? I tend to agree there. I think it's fascinating to see, and it's good that you use that word, puzzle, because that's exactly what Brian Gutikins talks about all the time

when he's talking about assembling a team and making sure the pieces fit, right? And I do think they all complement each other. It's going to be interesting to see the kind of, I don't know, the competition there at the second spot, right? I think we're all expecting Christian Watson to get fed. I don't think there's any doubt there. But, you know, Dobbs on the outside is kind of what we all expect to happen. But, man, like you said, there's a lot of youth at the wide receiver spot

and pass catching in general in Green Bay. This is a camp where if you're a young guy, hell, an undrafted guy or a late round pick, if you start making hay in training camp, you're probably going to get a few more opportunities to show that not only do you belong, but that maybe you should be in the mix. So I don't think anybody should expect things to be handed to any of these guys,

but I do think Dobbs has a tremendous upside. You saw such good flashes last year, whether it was in the preseason with the great touchdown catch in Buffalo. There certainly saw he's got all the tools. He kind of definitely fell off later in the year, He was coming off a high ankle sprain. I do think we'll see much more the type of receiver we saw early in the season.

And then you talk about Reid flying under the radar. It's funny. I don't think he's flying under the radar with Packers fans, but I do agree nationally. I don't think people are expecting much there. And I'm telling you, I think they're going to utilize him all over. I talked about Tyler Irvin earlier, the way they utilized him in 2020. I think he's going to be in that role, but not exclusively.

I think he's going to do a lot of that motion stuff. I think they're going to get him the ball in space. I think they're going to utilize him probably as a primary traditional slot receiver at times. And, man, I tell you what, the sky's the limit. You talk about a kid who is insanely exciting with the ball in his hand. You get him the ball in space. He is a big play waiting to happen. You talk, your defensive coordinator, you're always going to be worried about Christian Watson.

You're probably going to be sliding coverage his way. If you can get, say, a safety shading over to Watson, and then all of a sudden you've got Reed slipping out of the backfield and it catches a screen. I mean, good luck. He can probably take it to the house if he's given the opportunity. So I love Reed as a player in general, and I love his upside in this offense. You know what's funny? You mentioned how the Packers almost kind of encouraged that competition.

When I talk about a merit-based depth chart, let me look at the Green Bay Packers' depth chart. Right. There is one first round pick on the entire offense. That's Jordan Love. And that's Jordan Love, right? Exactly. I mean, and I'm talking skill, I know it was the joke in the Aaron Rogers. They never drafted.

Right, right, right. They didn't draft the first round anything. Like, look at this roster. It's been defense, defense. It's crazy, dude. It's incredible. Like, I don't think I've ever seen something like that. But is that kind of the thing Matt LaFlor wants to encourage?

Like, for instance, if, let's just say, Dantavian Wicks, who's a fifth round rookie. Watch him, by the way. If he makes plays in camp, is he going to play? Like, and I don't mean to put pressure on him. I just know, no, no, no. You're not. No, that's 100% it.

And look, it's no different. Like, I think Seattle operates this way. Their personnel group is very similar in that regard. Green Bay has been that way, at least since Ted Thompson was in town. You know, they pitched this to undrafted free agents, this idea that, look, if you put stuff on tape, we're not going to ignore it. You know, it's not going to be way. there's a third rounder ahead of you. Well, no, I'm making plays. I'm going to play and I'm going to

be in the mix. And that's why I'm saying, like, you talk about a camp where if you're a young guy and you are making plays each and every day turning some heads and coaches are talking about it, not only on the practice field, but they're looking at it, you know, on the tape study in the classroom and things like that, you're going to get opportunities. You're going to be in the mix. And that's why I say nothing's going to be handed to anybody. Like I think Christian Watson, sure, Is he a big play waiting to happen? Did he kind of absolutely announce his presence with authority last year? No question about it.

But that doesn't mean he's going to be the number one targeted receiver in this offense by any means. I think it could literally be anybody week to week depending on how they're playing. And I think that's exactly how Green Bay likes it. So Aaron Jones and A.J. Dillon, those are kind of the constants here with this offense. You know, I thought it was funny. 2019 Aaron Jones leads the NFL in rushing touchdowns. he scores 16 of them. And basically since they drafted A.J. Dillon.

Right. Aaron Jones is not a touchdown score. As a matter of fact, I don't know if you know this, Aaron, but I'm going to plug our new product fantasy point status. Do it. Among running backs with 800 or more rushing yards last year, Aaron Jones had the fewest, a second fewest, rather, carries inside the five-yard line,

obviously because they give it all that. You are. Jay Dylan? Well, they give it to AJ Dylan and or last year especially. they were running RPO's on the goal line. And look, Rand, Rand, you want to throw it, all that stuff. I get it.

You're a superstar. You're an NFL Hall of Famer to be. You want to throw the ball. I get it. I totally understand. But robbing Aaron Jones of those opportunities, man, someone needs to be drawn up on charges. It's ridiculous.

The man has one of the best noses for the end zone down there, like inside the five that I've ever seen. And yet they just completely forget about him for insane. stretches throughout last season, but even stretching back of the last couple years. And I don't think it's all AJ Dylan, although that is some of it. But man, I did a video earlier this summer. It is time to get back to the Jones zone. You talk about give this man the ball down inside, like the three or two.

He is going to find a way to get across that goal line. He's shown it. The tape is there. He does it time and time again. It is completely baffling to me how he was an afterthought in those situations in 2022. Yeah, sometimes I think it's easier for smaller guys to find a crease at the goal line that it is for the bigger guys. Totally agree. You know, absolutely. You're not barreling through. You're just kind of, you know, finding that, what do they say, you know, trying to find that little crease. And I think he does a great job. Yeah. He had 59 catches last year, though. And if we're talking fantasy football, 59 catches for a running back is going to be significant. I mean, he's back to back 50 catch seasons. I think he's averaged 50 catches a season over the last four. Should we expect to be? Is going to be significant. I mean, he's back to back 50 catch seasons. I think he's average 50 catches a season over the last four. Should we expect

that to continue with Jordan Lovick quarterback? 100%. I think there's a good chance it expands. Aaron was never one to really throw to the backs by design very much either with McCarthy or with Matt. I do wonder, though, I think my hunch is, yes, that expands. But man, who knows? You never really know what these guys are cooking up throughout the offseason. They're always trying to, quote, stay ahead of it. So maybe they're thinking, oh, teams are going to expect us to try and utilize the running back. more in the passing game. For me, it just makes sense because they're your two most experienced

guys on offense. Get them the football, especially Aaron Jones. He's electric. I suspect, again, that, yeah, you'll see at least that, probably an expansion of that kind of usage in the passing game. And look, I think Aaron Jones is one of the most, and any cheese head TV fan knows where I'm going with this. I think he's one of the most underappreciated players in the NFL. I think he is a superstar who never gets the superstar treatment, sometimes even by his own team. So I'm hoping that this is going to reset on offense allows him that opportunity to really come to the four and showcase just exactly how great he is. I'm kind of imagining a Packer fan discussion like a Reddit thread, right?

Hey, guys, I'm really excited for this. You know, you get this. And if you hit the right keywords throw the right picture in there, it's going to get voted up. I'm so excited for this season. I'm excited for something new, something fresh. there's always going to be a Debbie Downer in there. And there's going to say, yeah, but. No, clearly not.

Surely you, I have to imagine. And I think this Debbie Downer would have a valid point that if there's something that's going to keep even the most optimistic Packer fan up at night, it's the offensive line. What's the outlook here up front? Bakhtiari hasn't been able to stay on the field at all. I mean, got some youth. What's the outlook for the line? I actually think that's going to be one of their strongest units.

I do think I understand the frustration with Bactiari if you're a fan just not really keeping track of what he's been through, right? I've seen your mentions. Oh, he should just retire. Oh, you have no idea. My inbox is even worse. But I will say, like last year, and Dave talked about this at his locker this offseason, they found a really good way of working throughout the week to ensure that he'd be ready for the game.

And when he was on the field, he was lights out. I mean, he was old school David Bactiari. He was locking down Von Miller and company, you know? It's like no difference there. So the fact that they're going to come into this season with both Bactiari and Elton Jenkins there on the left side of the line, already they're light years ahead of where they were at the start of last season when they had the likes of Jake Hanson out there, right? Josh Myers has got to step up his game at center. There's zero doubt about it.

You know, that's a guy who, now, to be fair, he did, you know, miss almost half. half of his rookie season. So he hasn't played a ton of ball yet, but man, he is so good at times, yet so frustratingly inconsistent in both pass pro and in the run game. If they can get him to play at a high level consistently, they're going to be cooking with gas because running there at right guard, I really like his game. And then look, they're going to have a battle at right tackle between Zach Tom and Yash Nyman.

I suspect Yash probably wins that gig. But regardless, both of those players are really good and played really well at times throughout last season. Again, I think, and this is something I've talked about a lot this offseason, the difference this year hopefully will be you're going to have continuity along your offensive line. The numbers back up, the more continuity you have up front, the better your offense is going to be. That is point blank.

And I think last year, especially the first half of the season, they were an absolute victim of not only musical chairs, but just waiting on Bakhtiari and Jenkins. And even when they got Jenkins back, they played them at right tackle. It wasn't his natural position. Once they got that line solidified, they played a lot better. And having that line together from the jump will really make a difference this season. I don't make it a point to ask too much about backup quarterbacks on the franchise-focused podcast, but I'm a Penn State grad. And my group chat, my group chat lit up.

I'll bet. Clifford got drafted when? Where? The fifth round. Now, let me, first and foremost, I just did to my group chat. I said, I said, oh, they needed a very valid. veteran to mentor Jordan Love. He's actually older than Jordan Love. You joke, but I don't think, I think there's a kernel of truth there. Just in the sense of a guy in the room who's played a lot

of ball is a really smart player. That's the book on him. He's been criticized across the country. A hundred percent. No question. I mean, we have Patreon members at Cheesa TV who, when that happened, it just absolutely exploded and couldn't believe the pick was made. But I think in in the sense that they want a really smart guy in the room with him who, you know, like I said, played a lot of ball. And he can be a sounding board for Jordan and look at the pictures and they can talk about it and just be part of that quarterback lab, if you will. I get that. I get that idea. Now, where he was drafted, was he overdrafted? Probably. But I don't care. Like, once you get to the NFL, I don't care how you got there. All that matters is what you do when you get there. Yeah, I said that the guys,

like, and obviously I'm much closer to this situation. And I said, you know, watching Clifford, he's, he's got mobility. He's got that dog. And like I said, when I saw that he was drafted, I said, I'm not shocked he was drafted. I'm shocked he was a fifth round pick. But I did think coaches would appreciate his experience and his leadership. And I think that's probably what got him drafted. I think that's the idea.

Yeah, totally agree. All right, Aaron, normally I wrap up the podcast by asking, I have two more questions for you, but to wrap up the fantasy section. I normally ask who's a sleeper on this team, but there is something that I think could be a sleeper on this team that we haven't talked about yet. And it's going to be the tight end battle here between Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft. You said merit-based. Musgrave was the second round pick at the big program, Oregon State. You have Tucker Kraft coming from South Dakota State, the small program, third round pick.

Is this a true camp battle for the number one tight end job with the Packers? You know, it's going to be fascinating to see how it plays out because, you know, Kraft is clearly the more physical of the two, right? And you do wonder how their games are going to translate as far as getting on the field right away. So much of it is going to depend on how they're grasping the offense and obviously how the coaches want to utilize them. There's no denying, though. You put the ball in Musgrave's hands. He is a shot out of a cannon.

That kid has got some speed. So I do think he'll probably get more opportunities, at least early on, to showcase that ability. Now, that said, I mean, look, like I said, the physicality of the game, musgrave for as fast as he is, you turn on any of his clips, and he's fallen down instantly on contact, whereas Kraft is like bowling guys over and bowling through guys. Now, level of competition, et cetera. I understand all that, but I'm excited to see how that translates to the NFL. as far as like that room goes

it's going to be interesting to see how they deploy things as far as who's their traditional inline guy who's more of like in the slot or a move or even in the backfield because they've got Josiah de Guara who's done a lot of that but they haven't really utilized him in that way very much at least

to the last couple years now that like I said it's a bit of a reset on offense I do wonder how they're going to be using these parts somewhat interchangeably but you have to think again some guys are suited to some things better than others. That's what camp's about.

I'm, like, I can't wait for the pads to come on and see how that shakes out. But my initial, my guesswork would be, yeah, Musgrave's going to get those opportunities early to show what he can do. I don't know if there's going to be a team that I'm going to be more focused on during the preseason than the Green Bay backers. I really don't know. Like there's so, I mean, there's so many unknowns. Yeah, it's for a good reason, right?

It's going to be fantastic. Now, Aaron, I normally would wrap this up, but I know there's a subject near and dear to your heart that we should. you talk about. And it's near and dear to John Hansen's heart, despite Hansen being a Vikings fan. This is crazy. Sterling Sharp is a semi-finalist for the pro football Hall of Fame. John Hansen will tell you flat out, there were times when, let's put a fantasy spin on this, where he would draft Sterling over Jerry Rice. I've no doubt. I have zero question. Take the floor stump for Sterling Sharp. Here's the thing. And this has kind of been my MO now. You know. You follow me on Twitter.

It's so sad that it's taken this long. I understand the, you know, the way his career was shortened due to injury. Of course, every Packers fan will tell you, well, then why is, you know, if Terrell Davis is in the hall, why can't Sterling Sharp be? The rings, unfortunately, always play into this. But, man, I don't think people understand how dominant Sterling Sharp was. Like, he played with some questionably talented quarterbacks early. Then he got a young Brett Farve who, I mean,

absolutely was going to throw him the football. Everyone in the stadium knew it. Everybody on offense knew it. Everybody on defense knew it. And he still threw him the ball and no one could stop him. That's my thing. It's like, okay, you want to talk about the numbers. They add up and they certainly hold up against anybody in that era.

No question about it. Go look at him. You don't need me to tell you. But the idea that everybody knew he was getting the ball and they couldn't stop him. should tell you the caliber of player that he was, why he should be in the Hall of Fame. To me, there's zero doubt that he should have been in the hall a long time ago. Talk to his brother.

We all know he's a great player. He one billion percent should be in the Hall of Fame. Two points on Sterling Sharp. Number one, he's one of those receivers when you watched him. And if you watch him, I compare him to A.J. Brown in this way, if you want kind of a modern comp, when you watch him, you swear he's 64. 2.30. And he's not.

he's built like a running back. Like it's just his style of play. And my number one, this Sterling Sharp stat rivals the Wayne Gretzky. If you subtracted all his goals, he'd still be the NFL's points leader. One of my all-time favorite stats in all the sports, Sterling Shepard had nine catches for like 130 yards and three touchdowns in one game after suffering a career-ending injury. Right.

That's how good this guy was. Sharp was amazing and the idea that there are so many guys from that era who are in who he absolutely toasted man like Jerry Rice is the only comp he's literally it like I understand there are a lot of great receivers and there's no doubt they're all worthy but man Sterling was better than all of them the only guy the only guy who who could like hold a candle to and or best him was Jerry Rice the greatest of all time and on the rings thing doesn't doesn't stand up to me because if he even has a normal career arc He crab walks to a ring in 96. I totally agree.

Totally agree. I mean, like, I mean, Andre Risen's out there, scoring touchdowns in that Super Bowl. Like Sterling Sharp would have. Right. Anyway, he's Aaron Nagler. You can follow him on Twitter at Aaron Nagler. A lot of ball game left.

You will hear it a lot. Well, whatever social media platform we're on in the fall. I know you'll be there telling us there's a lot of time left. He's the co-founder of Cheesehead TV. Go check out Motelman if you like electronic music or even if you don't. Go heck of one. I don't know. Get somebody.

in the ground. Aaron, thank you so much. Routing for Sterling Sharp, interested in the Packers, and I'm interested in bringing the rest of the NFC at you on the franchise focus podcast. Thanks, everybody for listening, and have a good one. Thanks for tuning in to this edition of the Fantasy Points podcast. Remember to subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite platform, and come join the roster at FantasyPoint.com.