Fantasy Football Daily - High-Stakes Fantasy Football Strategy 🚨 Theo & Scott Attempt to Win $1 MILLION

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Attempting to win $1 million in a fantasy football draft in the month of May, Theo Greminger and Scott Barrett back in the FFPC streets right after this. Let's get it. That's him. That's the old cheat. All right. So, Scott, we are in the midst of a $350 entry, big gorilla draft over at FFC. Anybody who hasn't been in this contest, the name has changed over the years, but the idea is the same.
Starting point is 00:00:41 It's the biggest fantasy contest there is. it's a million dollar grand prize. And I think the pool is like 5.8 million or something like that in prizes. So finishing second, finishing third would be great. You still also win money for the regular season. But the idea is to get into the postseason. What do you think about drafting in May? This is, is this your earliest redraft entry in a while?
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah, I love this. So FFPC is a sponsor, but even before they were sponsor, I was always, saying this is my favorite format to draft in i love redrafts start sit tight end premium double flex with a one million dollar grand prize that we're chasing and guys it's possible to win that if you're really good at fantasy like we are if you're a fantasy point subscriber you have a real chance at winning it abe abe abitoba good friend good friend of our show we've had him on we're going to have him on again he won the grand prize two years in a row just an absolute I think first year he drafted 30 teams, second year I think he drafted 50 teams.
Starting point is 00:01:49 But yeah, folks, it's a, it's a skill game. And we had quite a bit of success last year, teaming up and drafting these teams, two years in a row, you know, winning our league and then having a real shot in the tournament rounds, the bonus rounds. I will say it's also been really frustrating. It's a stylistic difference. I feel like I feel like I draft like a man and you draft like a herd animal. That's a completely opposite.
Starting point is 00:02:26 You draft like somebody who you have a certain type and we're going to go through it over the show. But yeah, this is sort of a warm up for me. It's because you're, I get it. You're drafting 50 different teams. And so you're paying special attention. to costs and not overpaying, you know, having your dollar cost averaging, making sure you're, you're, I don't know, the prices you're getting on these guys isn't exorbitant, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I feel like you're a slave to ADP. And I just want to, you got to let me ball. I know ball. Let me go after my guys. That's a strong statement. First of all, you're going to get some of my guys over the next week or so. We're going live over here at Fantasy Points YouTube. One of the first shows I'm going to do is a My Guys episode for each and every
Starting point is 00:03:12 round. I'm also like, I'll say, Scott, this is sort of a little warm up for me. I'm in the Hardway draft. So for like these $350 FFC leagues, there's one called the Hardway, which is an invitation only. I finally got in the league like five years ago. It was one where you really wanted to get in. I finally got in the league like five years ago, the same year as a Bagg Batoba. The two of us were in the draft together. Shout out to Billy Musio. He was led in that year. He's out of the, sort of out of the game at this point. But it's like Dave Hubbard, one of the best ever to do it in fantasy football. He's still drafting.
Starting point is 00:03:50 He's won a number of like high profile events. Austin Martin, who's a friend of fantasy points, he took down the big postseason contest, probably the best dynasty manager in the FFPC streets. He's in that one. And then you mentioned Abeeb was a back-to-back winner of the 350. The Go Bill's guys are also, so Sean and Dom and those guys, they're in the hard way draft as well. They took down the main event twice.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So that's like big shout out to the Go Bills guys for doing that. I'm in that on Friday night. We're going to cover it right here on this channel. But I agree with you to an extent where like I'm I'm more locked into ADP this time a year. I want to be able to get good price points on guys. I don't want to reach on guys when. And I think that's where we really kind of differentiate is I think at this point in the year,
Starting point is 00:04:37 you want to reach to get your guys where I think it's sort of like the cost. benefit doesn't go into it for me to take a guy a round and a half early when I know I'm going to get access to him in the sixth round. I don't need to take him in the fifth round, that sort of thing. And we argue about it. And I'll say like, we've won main events together for not the overall, but we've taken down main event leagues back to back years now. We've also, we split one with a B, we won that one. Last year, me, you and Rich had a 350 that was really, really good that we ended up crapping out because of injuries. We lost so many guys. on that team. So like I think us arguing about the picks, it helps tighten up the the draft process
Starting point is 00:05:17 as we get into like the big money months. We'll probably do our first main event, maybe what, like July, July 1st, Scott. I think by the time we get in there, we're sort of in lockstep, you are very tied into your conviction this time of year, which I feel like it's a very dangerous game. You also have injury optimism that I don't always share. That's fair. We're going to sort of dive into it a little bit. You also love a certain player that we're going to talk about, not only on this show, but when we review our dynasty startup. Scott and I are also in a $750 entry, FFPC, TriFlex startup draft. We're going to review that. You can check that out over on Fantasy Points, Dynasty YouTube, which has been growing exponentially, almost at 3,000 subs over there. And shout out to people
Starting point is 00:06:01 watching this show. We're going for 25,000 subs for this channel, sometime, hopefully in the month of June. So we're going to keep rocking and rolling. Let's talk about this draft. Draft. Draft starts out, Bejohn Robinson at the 101. We get the 102, and we are thrilled to get the 101 or the 102 this year because you have like these weapons of mass destruction. But I know when my top 50 PPR rankings come out, I'm going to have Jemir Gibbs at the very top. Where are you at for like your 101 right now? Are you with Gibbs over Bejohn? Is there another player you're kind of throwing into the mix here. For me, these two guys are just really a strong edge at the top. Yeah, I'm with you. I think it's Gibbs and I'm kind of confused that why that's not consensus. I think you put it
Starting point is 00:06:47 perfectly on your episode with Graham breaking down all 32 backfields. Highly recommend that two hour long episode, but it's excellent. You're like, yeah, this could be a year where Jamir Gibbs is outscoring quarterbacks. He's, you know, just one of those players you can't win without you remove David Montgomery from the equation and it's a guy who whenever David Montgomery was hurt was average was Christian McCaffrey he was putting up I don't know uh I think in games David Montgomery played fewer than 35 percent of the snaps something like that the averages like 28.9 fantasy points per game which is just insane and so yeah jimier gibbs I think I think the 101 is a great spot to be and for us even better if you're the 102 and Gibbs falls to you yeah
Starting point is 00:07:35 The 102 getting Gibbs is fantastic, and it seems like a micro-edged, Scott, but I feel like I'd rather be in that 210-21 range. A lot of times it feels like you get sniped when you're at the 101. That two-three turn is a little weird. On Underdog, I found myself double-tapping Trey McBride and Jeremiah Love a lot, like in those best ball drafts, and I feel like that might end up being the wrong move, double-tapping Arizona. And FFPC, you don't really have to worry about that,
Starting point is 00:08:01 but that's a whole other show. the two of us, I think, will cover how to draft from the 101, how to draft from like the 12 spot, which I think are always interesting in terms of draft strategy. But we're thrilled. We get Jamir Gibbs. And I think also another thing Jamir Gibbs opens you up to, it opens you up to a million different builds. You can legitimately go here RB and not attack your RB2 for several rounds. You can also get a huge edge at the RB2 spot. And we'll talk about that in a minute. Some of the picks that went after Jamir Gibbs. Nothing really shocking. Jamar Chase goes at the three. Christian McCaffrey goes at the four, which is slightly higher. Usually we see Pucanakua, Jackson Smith, and Jigba at like the four in the five
Starting point is 00:08:44 spot. They go five and six. Then you see Trey McBride at the seven. Brock Bowers ends up going at the 10. So the two big tight ends go in round one. Then we start talking about our cue. We set up like sort of are ideal scenarios for the end of round two. And I think we were sort of in lockstep that the edge picks would be another strong running back there because a lot of the highest upside running back options sort of dry up. Or going with Colston Loveland, a player who we might need to chill out on Scott since we're drafting him so much. And we're going to end up with like, we're going to end up with like a sicko dollar amount
Starting point is 00:09:26 of Colston Loveland if we're not careful. I'm so deep in the weeds in Colston Loveland in terms of Dynasty exposure right now that if he gets injured this year, it's going to affect my win weights in a major way, but I don't care because I feel like he's the edge that could break fantasy, especially in a tight end premium format like the FFPC.
Starting point is 00:09:44 So the two of us considered Colston Loveland, then we also said Kenneth Walker and Jeremiah Love, and then we talked about Breece Hall. So we were sort of in lockstep there. When you look at the board, is there a wide receiver you wish you would have taken over Loveland or a running back? Or do you feel like Loveland structurally made a lot of sense? And also from an upside perspective really helped us out drafting him at the 211.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah, this was the same thing as our $750 Dynasty League where like maybe there was a different move we could have made like a more plus EV decision balancing positional value and what. But like the sexy fun pick is absolutely Colson Loveland. And so I have no regrets here. You really look at what he did at the tail end of last season, double digit targets and four straight games to close out the year. He was their alpha number one receiver. This is a tight end premium format. This was an exceptional talent.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And yeah, so I like this, you know, very late round two, Titan premium. And we're now looking in round seven. And, you know, I really like our team. and I think that was, you know, he fits perfectly. What I meant by the plus EV thing is I will just say, I've drafted a ton of these FFPC main event, big guerrilla teams over the years.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And I've had my most success punting tight end and then like taking a quantity over quality approach. So it's kind of unique for me to draft a tight end this early. But yeah, like I said, no regrets really liking how this team looks right now. Yeah, me too. And there was nothing really surprising inside, of round two. Names like Chase Brown and Ashton Genty
Starting point is 00:11:29 go off the board at the beginning of round two. C.D. Lamb and Justin Jefferson went off the board at the 13 and the 14 overall. Drake London, who I think we're both into at 15. Like there's no surprises here. The only surprise that I think, Rashi
Starting point is 00:11:45 Rice, Nico Collins, taking them inside of round two sort of ahead of the Kenneth Walker's Colston Loveland, Jeremiah Loved here. To me, I don't see an edge in either one of those players. Was there any picks that stood out to you in round two where you're like, I probably wouldn't have gone in that direction?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Well, this doesn't really answer your question, but what really stood out to me was, yeah, Chase, Devon A-chan going late round one, Chase at the 111, Chase Brown going early round two. And just thinking to myself, if I'm the 112 and I could get A-chan and Chase Brown, two guys who profile to me as like Christian McCaffrey Light. That's awesome. So like last year, the 112 seemed really gross.
Starting point is 00:12:34 This year it's pretty sexy to me. Yeah, completely agree on that one. And Ashton GNT too is another guy who who could be like if he gets the, what is it, 16% target share he had last year and 225 carries and the Raiders aren't as incompetent, god awful as they were last year,
Starting point is 00:12:53 the offensive line progresses a little bit to the mean. You know, he's he's kind of of that same caliber. I'm with you. I think if I'm drafting at the 12 and I'm in another one of these slow drafts, I hopped in one more slow draft to get ready for the hard way. And I have the 12. That's a slow one. I think it's running back, running back from the 12 hole.
Starting point is 00:13:14 It's really difficult to pass up on like those huge names like Jefferson and Lamb. And if you want to tell me, I'm going to take Justin Jefferson to the 12. That's your draft strategy. I'm not going to argue with you. But I think if you look at the way that the board kind of falls, getting a James Cook, a Devon A. Chan, Ashton Gentie, even in O'Mary in Hampton, Chase Brown there, I have that, like, predictable volume on a weekly basis and a chance to get 40 points out of my running backs. And if I'm trying to play catch up at running back this year, I like Cam Scataboo at the three, four turn, which I know is a guy you, yeah, listen, listen, I podcast with you too many times. I like Cam Scadaboo now a lot. I think he's going to come up. to the mid third if he's healthy. So like I think there's going to be fewer options at the three four turn. So just keep that one in mind.
Starting point is 00:14:00 We take Loveland at the 211. And it's funny, there's a drafter drafting at like the 101 that we've been sort of being able to predict all of his picks. So I said if we take Loveland. Well, not all of them. Not all of them. There's one we're going to head to. But we knew he'd take Jeremiah Love if we didn't.
Starting point is 00:14:18 It's like the, the siren call of Jeremiah Love at the at the two, at the two three turn. is just too hard to pass up. Well, you said to me, you were like, can you, can you live with Kenneth Walker and Jeremiah love not falling to us? And I'll be honest, I think I might have the running back we took ahead of both of them. Which is exciting to talk about here. And I think like a lot of times, it's funny when we draft together, the two of us have not like gone through every single player.
Starting point is 00:14:46 We do it on School of Scott. But when you said you were into Brees Hall, I'm like, I'm really happy for that because I've been drafting the hell out of him on underdog right now. And I think there hasn't been enough talk about like, Brees Hall being a winner of this offseason. Adding Kenyon Sadiq, adding Omar Cooper Jr., whatever you think of those guys, like in terms of their fantasy impact, they bring exceptional athleticism, first round draft capital to the equation.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That offense just got better. And then you've got Gino Smith, who's going to be as kind of, I think, a stabilizing force behind center. All we need for Brees Hall is the Jets to say, let's target him, maybe not as much as we did in year two, but let's target him enough. And then you're looking at Breece Hall as a huge edge pick. So Jeremiah Love goes off at the 212, Chris Olive goes off of the 301, and then we sprint to the table and we take Breece Hall. And we take Breece Hall ahead of Malik Neighbors, which was the only thing where, Scott, you're like upside wins championships.
Starting point is 00:15:44 You want to swing for the fences on each and every pick. is there any regret whatsoever on not taking the injured malik neighbors or is it kind of like let's let this thing shift out and talk about your enthusiasm for hall no um i think you have a very fair critique on me uh with regard to my injury optimism which you know has probably been like one of my bigger mistakes i keep repeating is like a little too much injury optimism and so when i tell you like i am scared shitless over this malik neighbor's injury uh you know know it's bad and you know i've talked to my injury experts and they're they're all like listen you know even if he comes back he's going to be 80% typical effectiveness if that with uh an
Starting point is 00:16:29 injury risk at 150 percent whether that's re-injury or compensatory injury uh and so everyone i've talked to is like neighbors is a guy you want in 2027 not 2026 and then all along the way it just seems to be getting worse and worse it's oh he just had another search surgery. Oh, you know, first, you know, training camps in jeopardy, then week one's in jeopardy. Meanwhile, our boy, Camp Scataboo, I know that's another really bad injury and Ryan Heath is very pessimistic, but, you know, he's still like out here doing backflips talking about running for 2,000 yards. Jackson Dart saying the offense is going to flow through him. And so I have a little bit more optimism there. But yeah, two guys I love and really the focal points of that Giants
Starting point is 00:17:15 offense coming back from some scary injuries. Breeze Hall, yeah, I love this pick. You look back at Brice Hall's career. He balled out on a per game basis as a rookie. Then he got hurt. Year two, age 22, 223 carries, 95 targets, year three, age 23, 209 carries, 76 targets. And so you look at guys like this with 200 plus carries, 75 plus targets. I'm like, is he, the new Matt Forte. I think he could be the new Matt Forte, but you have this training camp all throughout training camp. The coaching staff sort of shit all over him was like, we want a committee. We love Braylin Allen. Oh yeah, Breece Hall's still here, but we love Braylin Allen. And, you know, 243 carries. The targets came down, like you said, only 48. And Breeze Hall, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:08 was chirping, making some noise, kind of talking about wanting a trade. He wanted to go somewhere where they believed in him. And then he signed this extension. And you watch that press conference. And he's saying, it's really important to me being somewhere where they believe in me. And I really feel that now the conviction this coaching staff has in me that maybe they didn't last year, you know, the offense is going to run through me. And, and, you know, he said it himself is like, I really think I'm up there with the best
Starting point is 00:18:39 running backs in the league. It's just they weren't on offenses like mine, which is a fair point. is just totally incompetent offenses. Last year, Justin Fields, you know, he takes the ball and runs. He vultures touchdowns. He doesn't target the running backs. He doesn't get first downs because the offense stinks. And, you know, he's not getting yards before contact.
Starting point is 00:18:58 He's getting attacked, swarmed behind the line of scrimmage because the offensive line isn't great. But like you said, the, you know, major improvements to the offensive line, major improvement to the quarterback position, major improvements to the supporting cast. You're going to let Gino Smith kind of, you know, maneuver in the pocket, play point guard. And so, yeah, I think we could be seeing, you know, even if the offense is like fringe bottom 12 instead of just like worse possible. And like honestly, like they might be even better than that. Like all this buzz and hype around Tyler Shuck. I think Gino Smith is kind of right there with this setup is, yeah, we could be looking at a vintage Matt Forte season from Brees Hall,
Starting point is 00:19:41 even if this offense sucks, and I'm not sure it will. Yeah, it's a very interesting offense and one that I think we're going to dive into throughout the summer. A lot of times you can find ADP wins if we identify mispriced offenses. I'm not ready to crown the Jets as something spectacular. But if the Jets are the 20th best offense in football this year, like and are not like a bottom five offense, I think that Brees Hall could end up being a major ADP win. And then when you look at some of the running back, that go directly behind Brees Hall in round three.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Derek Henry and Josh Jacobs, who are easy players to like, but players who have taken on considerable volume and are getting older. Then you've got Travis E.N. who was fantastic last year, but now you're paying like a five round difference from his ADP price last year.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Kyron Williams, which is the threat of Blake Corum. So it's like the dead zony guys, and I'm not saying these guys should be dead zone backs, but the dead zoni backs are inside of round three and round four. And Breece Hall, I don't think qualifies like that. So he might be really the one where I feel like he's an edge pick at the beginning of round two. Number of wide receivers go inside of round three. Excuse me, inside of round three.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Number of wide receivers go inside a round three. And it continues into round four. Malik Neighbors, again, goes one pick after us. And you see AJ Brown, George Pickens, Teteroa McMillan, Ameca, Agbuka, go back to back to back to back. then you see Tyler Warren sneak in the back end of the round three. Then you get another like monsoon of wide receivers. And I start sending you text messages when we get to like the 401.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And I'm like, these wide receivers are going to start getting like sapped up this round. We need to get ready to take one at the 411. Devontas Smith goes at the 401. Then you see three more running backs as well as Josh Allen go off the board. Then it's T. Higgins, Garrett Wilson, Zayflowers. I would have loved to have gotten where we drafted our guy. Devante Adams, Luther Burden, and then it gets to us OTC at the 4-11. You like to bust my chops.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I guess I'm the Ladd-McConkie doubter, not really hater. But I said when it came up to the 4-Eleven, Lad's kind of the pick. I think it makes sense at ADP. Shout out to my buddy Andrew Schellenberg, who's a really good FFPC manager. He was in a big gorilla this week. And I believe Lad went at like the 405 and his. I believe he took him. And then you had multiple other wide receivers who sort of like could have been options.
Starting point is 00:22:14 The one guy that we both loved and we said we could take at the 502 if we take Ladd was Terry McLaren. And you're like, why don't we just take Terry McLaren at the 411? And I'm like, I think he's going to come around because shout out to Fantasy Mojo. McLaren's three, McClearn's big gorilla like low was like the 503 over like the last 10 days. I'm like, there's probably a good chance that he comes back to us at the 502. And then lo and behold, we take Ladd-McConkie at the 4-Eleven. And then the manager at the 101, we thought he'd take Quinchon Judkins. He did.
Starting point is 00:22:49 But instead, he takes Terry McLaurin at the 501. Why don't we go back and talk about that McConkey pick? How excited are you to get him at the 4-Eleven? Or is it just sort of chasing value here, Scott? And then we'll get back to McLaren slash who we took. Yeah, well, this is one of Ryan Heath's flag plant players. You know, we just recorded an episode of School of Scott with Ryan Heath where he laid out the case and I get it. He believes Ladd McConkey is this year's JSN, in which case, this was an amazing pick.
Starting point is 00:23:23 This is, you know, one of the best possible picks you could make. I think there is real risk here. Ladd McConkey, I'll be honest, isn't a player I love right now just because of the Keenan Allen risk. I think that's substantial, where even if it's not the most likely thing in the world, he resigns, it's like I would rather just not have to worry about that. And so I said to you as like, I just want Terry McLaren. Like I like Terry McLaren here more than anyone else available by a lot. And you promised me, Theo.
Starting point is 00:23:56 You said there's no way he's going to go here. This would be the earliest he goes in any big gorilla all. off season. There's no way. And then brutal sniping. A brutal snipe, a brutal snipe. And you always like, we put Greminger Barrett as the as like the team name. And I think, you know, I know I've gotten a couple times. I've been in these FFC drafts. And it's actually like a huge honor to me when I get like the high stakes FFC and NFFC guys telling me how much they like my podcast. And it helps that I've draft against these guys. But, you know, they'll be like, hey, I listen to this show. So big shout out to the FFPC audience. Like we really value.
Starting point is 00:24:34 you the really sharp FFPC managers with a lot of skin in the game using our content. But I also think there's a little bit of like a, hey, I sniped you. I remember when it was like peak Malik neighbor's season, his rookie year, and I came on some podcast and I said he's going to end up being a wide receiver one and I'm drafting the heck out of them. Some guy took him like the spot ahead of me and got into like the comments, message boards and like starts talking trash. So I don't know about this one.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I think people, I know I've gotten a bunch of Terry McLauran trade offers in Dynasty leagues because people know I like Terry McLaren. Yeah, Scott, we got led astray. I still think that that Ladd-McConkie, the ceiling outcome for Ladd-McConkey, is probably higher than McLaurin. Even though I am not a huge McCawkey guy, I understand the theoretical upside. What if Omari in Hampton is not it? What if things run a little bit more through McConkey? What if he gets 145 targets in this offense? And what if Trey Harris, Quentin Johnston, and Arronday Gadsden all cannibalize one another? And They all sort of have spike weeks, but McConkey is the one guy you really can like lean on week in, week out in this passing game. So I'm still glad we took him here.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Would I want to take Glad McConkey at like the 402? No, but I'm happy to take him sort of at cost here. McLaurin though, I really wish he would have come around. I also kept throwing out Jalen Waddle. He ended up going at the 508. We talked about him on the show with Jalen Waddle. I know. You're just putting him on all my teams.
Starting point is 00:26:02 No, no. I do like to get exposure to Jill and Waddell. Last year we were also drafting him considerably lower. Now he's come up to the fifth round. But he ends up going at the 508. So there was a run of wide receivers. The run of wide receivers sort of ended with McLaurin. And it's because Scott, we pivoted over.
Starting point is 00:26:21 We end up get at the 502. And I like David Montgomery. Scott likes David Montgomery. We consider David Montgomery there. Scott also loves any old dusty guy he can get in this. range of drafts. So David Montgomery would have fit in well in like the Scott Barrett like profile of guy. No, but David Montgomery's fantastic. But I sort of, we sort of both said if we're going to take a running back here, we're not going to force a wide receiver into our build. Let's consider
Starting point is 00:26:48 Trayvion Henderson. And we both sort of talked about like the downside risk. And certainly Chris Wecht has him lower in our projections. But I do think there's an extent that you throw projections out the window with Trayon Henderson. Like this is the wind. the tournament type pick to me, where we're already set at running back. We have Jemir Gibbs and Brees Hall. We're able to just park Trayvion Henderson in the flex and sort of live and die with his upside downside risk in this offense. I like it, though, when I look back in hindsight, we take him ahead of David Montgomery, Tucker Kraft, D'Andre Swift, Judarian Price, Harold Fannin Jr., Jalen Waddle. I mean, he has the most upside of any guy in this round. A little bit
Starting point is 00:27:30 of it is contingent based with Romandre Stevenson, but Stevenson also getting a little bit older. I like getting access to some Travion Henderson. Let us know in the chat what you think of this pick. But Scott Barrett, break down your willingness to embrace Henderson. And I guess I think if I'm reading you right, there was a little enthusiasm with this pick too. There was. I think this requires a nuance take. And so bear with me, but you're listening to School of Scott where, you know, this is your podcast. If you want a PhD in fantasy football, you need to be listening to School of Scott.
Starting point is 00:28:04 But yeah, I'm going to go a little too deep in the weeds at times. And it's important when you're listening to a fantasy analyst. It's like if they have a best ball background, you could be kind of influenced in a way that could actually be detrimental to you in your home league, where it's like you listen to Ryan Heath and Jacob Sanderson talk about, Well, you know, Jacori Kroski Merritt is like a decent value.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And I'm like, this guy does not freaking matter in a start sitley. That is your best ball bias. Just like pretend he doesn't exist. You're going to be better off for it. And then Trayvion Henderson drafting us talking about him right now. You have to understand we're talking about the FFPC format where there's no trades. In your home league, I don't think Trayvion Henderson is a good pick here. because I think you want to be profiting off of impatience.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And I think it's going to take him a while. There's a big lesson learned from me from the 2025 season where, you know, a lot went right. But, you know, Luther Burden, Colston Loveland were league winners. But, you know, they were free week 12, week 13, week 14. And so, yeah, it's going to take Trayvion, Henderson a while to break out. You might have to benefit from injury. I think he's a player who's going to be.
Starting point is 00:29:24 much cheaper week six than in your draft. But this is an FFPC with no trades with a tournament format, $1 million grand prize where you really want to be leaning into upside. You really want to be leaning into back half scoring potential. And so with all that caveat, I love this pick, and I especially love it for our team. Because that is crucial is you have to be, to weather drafting travion henderson you have to be able to weather the possibility of
Starting point is 00:30:01 henderson just doing absolutely nothing the first month two months of the season we saw it last year over his last 10 games he hit 12 fantasy points and only eight of them in the playoffs he averaged four fantasy points per game and so there's a real possibility he's dead weight for us for some percentage of the season but this is a team with jimier gibbs bruce hall that can weather that. And so I think he's a great fit for this. And so I just talked about all the reasons why I'm skeptical, skeptical concerned, why he had to be a good fit. The argument for him is, I think this is a really high caliber talent. You look at what moves the needle for fantasy points at the running back position. It's only three things. It's targets. I think he was a really good pass catcher,
Starting point is 00:30:48 elite yards per target in college, really good pass blocker. It's, Red zone scoring potential. All right, maybe Ramandre has the edge there. And then the third thing is explosive playability. And he was at such a level that you only see from like the Jamir Gibbs, the Saquan Barclays, the Derek Henry's, the Devon A chance of the world, rare ability there. And so the Patriots last year, they had the softest schedule by a landslide.
Starting point is 00:31:18 They were playing every game from a lead. I think they placed more of a premium on that explosive playability. year playing from behind more often and more close games. But really, it's just like this guy is incredibly talented and Ramandre Stevenson, I think much less so. You know, he's a guy who doesn't, there's not a lot of negative plays, but like on average. And in terms of big playability, it's really Trayvion Henderson from a landslide. So, you know, so long as Trayvion, a devout Christian, you know, stops quoting Leviticus at his head coach and gets in the good graces, allowing Mike Vrable to just come to his senses and be like, hey, this guy's weight better.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Let's give him the bell cow role. There's massive, I think, massive, massive league winning potential. And also, of course, if Ramadre Stevenson were to suffer an injury forcing Brable's hand there, it's just kind of, you know, really talented guy, you know, is, is rational. coaching going to win out at the end of the day, I think we can, with a round five pick here, chasing a $1 million grand prize with the luxury of two running backs on this team, call this a great pick. Yeah, I think it wouldn't, wouldn't behove anything good for Trevion Henderson if he went up to Mike Frable and said, coach, I'm praying for you with the
Starting point is 00:32:41 offseason and Diana Rossini stuff. Like, he's got to chill on that. But Trayvion Henderson, like, I think there's also another, like, I don't know if it's necessarily as much of a extreme swings like you're saying. I think it could also be, hey, we trust him a little more at 23 years old than we did at 22 years old. A year in our system, you've got Josh McDaniel, you've got Mike Frable coming off of a Super Bowl loss. And maybe you're going to see a little more predictable volume, even in games where
Starting point is 00:33:10 Rambandre's used, it's getting Trayvion Henderson the ball. Like we talk about Jemir Gibbs. We talk about Brise Hall. There's some outcomes where Trayvion Henderson could have that sort of year two that those guys had. And then Scott, we also take him in May. If there's any sort of an injury setback for Remandre Stevenson, Trayon Henderson would be drafted like right next to Breece Hall. So like we might have a little bit of Delta in terms of profit in terms of the ADP. So I get it. There's some risk here, but the guy did have 10 touchdowns last year as a rookie. Had three games in a four, in a five week
Starting point is 00:33:43 stretch, had three games where he had 28 or more PPR points, including two 30 burgers. So love the upside selection. We walk away with McConkey and Trayvion Henderson at the five at the four, five, essentially. Then we get to the sixth round and we start talking. We start loading the queue. You see Chuba Hubbard, R.J. Harvey, Bachel Tutin go off the board. This is not in order either if you're listening on the podcast. The wide receivers, I had Jordan Tyson and Cardinal Tate, both in the queue, wishful thinking.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Those guys go at the beginning of round six. I think there's a chance they touched around. They did us a favor. Yeah, well, we'll argue about that. I am big time on team Carnell Tate. I think you cannot have enough Carnal Tate. Jordan Tyson will talk about him on the Dynasty show. You see two more tight ends who make a lot of sense structurally in round six.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Sam LaPorter and Kyle Pitts off the board. Lamar Jackson goes off the board. So we start talking about like, you know, when we get to the middle of the six, we start loaded up the queue. Marvin Harrison goes at the 609. Bachel Tootin goes at the 610. and then we come up OTC and we start talking. And I throw out Alec Pierce, Brian Thomas Jr., Parker Washington, Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And then you threw out George Kittle. And I think we had one other player in consideration. I told you that I thought if you want Jaden Daniels for this team, who I think both of us are in lockstep, is a really good value in this range. You need to take them right now because the drafter who took Terry McLaurin is going to take him here at the 6-7 turn. you still gravitated towards you wanted to get your guy Parker Washington.
Starting point is 00:35:20 We argued back and forth. This has turned into a Parker Washington propaganda channel. Scott, you're all in on Parker Washington. Josh Downs died so Parker Washington could live. We're drafted Parker Washington every single draft together, but you're pounding the table. So I finally just say, Scott, you take the lead here in round six and seven, and then round eight and nine, I'm going to take the lead.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And we're just going to sort of talk through these picks. Talk about why you wanted to go Parker Washington over a guy like Alec Pierce, a guy like Brian Thomas Jr. I mean, you've made the case for him so many times, but talk about taking him at the 611 here. Yeah, yeah, and I'm totally fine getting sniped on Jaden Daniels. I agreed with you. I think he was the next best value, but I really did not want to lose out on Parker Washington. Like the next wide receiver drafted was Alec Pierce. I think there's a substantial difference between them.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Parker Washington isn't a sure thing by any stretch. but I'm valuing him, you know, almost identically to Luther Burden, who went exactly two rounds earlier, right? And so that to me just looks like extreme value. And yeah, I think this fits our team great. I really like where we're sitting after, you know, six rounds where you have Ladd-McConkie and Parker, Washington, two wide receivers with a lot of upside. You have the three running backs, Jemir Gibbs, Brees Hall, Trayvion Henderson, and you have a superstar tight end. in the tight end premium format in Colston Loveland.
Starting point is 00:36:47 So we have tremendous flexibility where we could have drafted a highest end hyper-mobile quarterback as an edge pick, but also like how many drafts have we done where we wait until like round 14 to draft our first quarterback and we crush. So I'm not sweating that. And now, you know, we could draft another running back
Starting point is 00:37:09 and we could draft another tight end, stick them in the flex. We could draft probably what makes the most sense as more wide receivers, but yeah, really like where we're sitting, love the upside that we have on this roster. And good depth and good floor. I do too. And I think both of us are very open-minded to a lot of the quarterbacks that are going to be there in rounds nine and 10. We don't necessarily feel the pressure. I do think if we look back at this draft in six months, it'll be interesting to see like, do we wish we would have taken Jaden Daniels there? I mean, hindsight's 2020,
Starting point is 00:37:38 and I'm sure we're going to have some exposure to Jaden Daniels. But we'll end the show here. Let us know in the comments, do you want Scott and I to get back on the mic here and show what we did in rounds eight on do like a part two for this? We got we got a maker pick live. We got an hour and a half. We got an hour and a half. This is a slow six hour draft. So everybody in our league's probably like, why are Scott and Theo waiting, uh, you know, like four and a half hours to make this pick? It's so we could do it live on the air right here. I've loaded up a queue here. And we're going to talk out these. I think I know who you want to take. But we're going to talk about four options here. The one option that I think we should eliminate, but I think it's worth discussion from a draft theory conversation.
Starting point is 00:38:20 We both are betting on the New England Patriots to hit in a major way in terms of offensively. The game flow is going to be better. It's year two for Josh McDaniels. It's year three for Drake May, essentially his second full year as a starter. It's an offense that should score points in the in like be a top 10 scoring offense, should be fantasy friendly offense. Is there any argument whatsoever for taking Ramandre Stevenson here and double tapping this running back room? Or is it very low EV to double tap the same backfield with two picks inside of the first seven rounds? Yeah, I don't think that matters at all.
Starting point is 00:38:58 The trivia, like honestly, like, no, that's probably positively correlated and probably a smart decision. But yeah, it's weird. Like, I'm not so excited to draft Drake May here when he was. Last year's Exodia quarterback, he finished second in fantasy points per game. And the only real issue he had was that it was too easy. You know, the Patriots were winning these games too easily. He didn't need to throw the ball. And, you know, we are expecting a major regression to the mean with a tougher strength of schedule this year.
Starting point is 00:39:32 But he's not who I'm keeping. I think it's, so let's eliminate Stevenson. I'll just make a devil's advocate. Were you saying Stevenson? I thought you were saying May. I was saying for you to discuss, you know, I'm sure there's certain people out there. And I think stack cuffing. No, I do not.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I do not draft two running backs in the same backfield on the same offense. That's or on the same team because that like really just caps your upside. And like the whole game is upside. Like it's it's because if they're both healthy, they're cannibalizing each other's upside. And if one gets hurt, then you just kind of wasted a pick. That's yeah, that's not something. I'm doing here, certainly not in round seven. Yeah, and I think it's more of a best ball thing.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I think in best ball, the term stack cuffing. I think stack cuffing is a Dave Hubbard line. So shout out to Dave or Billy Musio, one of these high stakes guys. But it sort of became common vernacular. If you're like on underdog, double tapping Ramandre Stevenson and Trayvion Henderson in like a five running back build in best ball makes a lot of sense. Double tapping them here. You literally need this to turn into Jamir,
Starting point is 00:40:40 Gibbs, David Montgomery, Ben Johnson years in terms for it to pay off. So we are eliminating Remandre Stevenson. Let me ask you this, Scott. If you would have not, if Terry McClureen would have fell to you at the 502, then I do think that Remandre Stevenson would be in play at the 702. Are you there? No. Okay. So we're going to talk remandre on another school of Scott, because I figured that would be a Scott Barrett type thing to attack, but maybe it's not. Let's uh, even if we didn't like certainly with Trevion on this team, I have no interest in Ramandre. But even if Trayon weren't on this team, I still wouldn't have interest in Ramandre. So you've got you've got the one argument I'll make with Drake May is the rushing upside.
Starting point is 00:41:23 The game flow is going to be good. He's probably going to get age a j. Brown. I'd put it like 75% he goes to new England. And then we're hearing like maybe the, the LA Rams, maybe the can't city chiefs like there could be a surprise. Yeah. So if he gets AJ Brown, he's got the rushing upside, and then we have the correlation with him and Trayvion Henderson. He'd be an interesting pick here, but we're going to eliminate him. We're going to eliminate Ramondre Stevenson. I think there's two picks in consideration here. One, I know you're on, and there's one I'd like to make an argument for. Oh, and I'll also add before I talk about the picks, when we're talking about correlation, we do have Ladd-McConkey, and a Ladd-McConkey bet is sort of a
Starting point is 00:42:01 Justin Herbert bet. Justin Herbert's average draft position right now is the 10-0-6. So I think, you know, if we wanted to force the issue and take Herbert at the 901, depending on how the rest of this draft goes, that might work. There's also a chance he falls to us at the 10-12. Another quarterback that we have, we could gain correlation with would be Trevor Lawrence, if we waited. And Trevor Lawrence goes a little bit ahead. He'd probably be somewhere you'd have to take it like the, you know, the 812 area if he's there.
Starting point is 00:42:31 But I'll throw out two, I'll throw out the one player that I will stump for here. if we're chasing an upside outcome, you've made a big bet on Parker Washington. We both are into Liam Cohen. We both are into Trevor Lawrence. We've seen a changing of the guard at the running back position where I don't think a basal tootin, Chris Rodriguez, in their wildest dreams, is going to get a Travis ETN-like touch volume next year. I think it's probably going to be, Basial Tutin would be my bet, but if he hits,
Starting point is 00:43:00 it's going to be like 20% fewer touches than ETN. So you've got one part of the passing. game. Brian Thomas Jr. at the 702, despite the downside risk, would be a similar argument to Trayvion Henderson in the sense that we are chasing youth, we are chasing upside, we are chasing the potential for like a post-hype sleeper year out of BTJ. Similar argument to like the Marvin Harrison Jr. going at the end of round six. It's the big outside alpha who could get double-digit touchdown catches this year. And If Jacoby Myers ends up sort of just becoming a guy in this offense and they embrace the youth,
Starting point is 00:43:42 you can end up with BTJ and Parker Washington in like a really fun combination. And it opens us up to this correlation with T law later on. You were stumping for someone else though. Yeah. Maybe I'm wrong on this. Maybe like this is smart drafting a BTJ and it's a bet on the Jaguars offense, which I believe in. It's a bet on Liam Cohen, which I believe in. But to me, no, this feels like the same thing as a.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Mondrae. It's where it's something that lowers your ceiling, raises your floor, which is not what we want. It's like we're betting on Parker Washington to be the guy. And, you know, drafting BTJ here would kind of subtract from that. I think this is obvious. I think this is easy and you hate it. I think it's George Kittle. You know, like I know he's on the older side. I know he's coming off injury, but it's a tight end premium format. The guy has been an absolute baller every year, his career despite playing through like 10 different injuries. Last year, last year, Brock Bowers averaged 14.7 fantasy points per game. You know, you know how many fantasy points George Kittle average? The exact same as Brock Bowers, who went in round one.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Yeah, you know who led the position in fantasy points per game the year before that? It was George Kittle. He led all tight ends and fantasy points per game. Over the last two years combine, George Kittle is tied with Justin Jefferson in fantasy points per game. And that's not even in a tight end premium format. That's just PPR. And so this guy's available in round seven fits our team like a glove. And the tight ends going after him are Arande Gaston, Isaiah likely, Travis Kelsey, Dalton Kincaid. I just, you know, balancing the floor with the upside, with the median projection. it just, I love me some George Kittle here. You make a really good case.
Starting point is 00:45:39 George Kittle is also 33 years old coming off of an Achilles injury. And Scott, we've seen San Francisco lied straight up to us. You remember the Christian McCaffrey year in 2024 where people were drafting them enthusiastically and the franchise told us everything was great. I get the same sort of vibes. And I think this is actually going to be George Kittle not ready for week one, despite what John Lynch lies to us about. I think it could be George Kittle a little later in the year.
Starting point is 00:46:06 So I feel like I would rather go with the, I would rather go with structurally on the record. I would rather go with BTJ. I'd rather go with Drake May. I would rather go with uncorrelated Joe Burrow, who could end up with 50 touchdown passes this year if it all goes well. I will capitulate to you on George Kittle because I don't think I'm going to have a ton of him
Starting point is 00:46:26 and having a little bit of exposure would be good. I do think that structurally it does two things to us. us. I think we're done at tight end unless an exceptional value shows up. And I know you like to go purple. But if you go Colston Loveland round two, George Kittle, round seven, you're making a bet that you're right and you're not wrong. And those two guys are going to give you top four tight end numbers, top three tight end numbers. So you don't really need another one, except I want to take Jake Tonges, if we take George Kittle and treat it like a handcuff where you might be able to get, like, Tongis had a couple of weeks where he was good. I mean, he was giving you like 12
Starting point is 00:47:01 to 14 points per game and tight end premium without Kittle. And I think that Tanges could do the same thing this year out the gate. So I think we want to protect ourselves. So if you want to go George Kittle, I'm okay doing it. But round eight and nine, I'm going to steer the ship. And you can be in this sort of advisory role. So let's do it. We're going to take a live. That sounds. That sounds great to me. I'm with you. I think Jake Tongis is a good call. And guys, like, what a, what a tough, what a tough position you're in, Theo, is, you know, I try and bully him. and he doesn't let me and our team is better off for it. Just one last thing specific to George Kittle, though.
Starting point is 00:47:38 I was talking to my guy, Jeff Mueller, injury expert, also a 49ers diehard fan. And so I was asking him about George Kittle. He said he thinks he's going to be active week one, but not a full go, probably lower volume early on where he's more of a, you know, blocking first tight end, but then ramp up in the midseason with a real chance to just be, you know, back to who he was. And let's not forget, like, Mike Evans, Ricky Pearsall, they have injury concerns as well. So, like, he's shown he could step up and be the focal point of the offense. There's contingent upside beyond that as well.
Starting point is 00:48:17 And one thing with regard to my injury optimism, another thing I talk to Jeff Mueller about is like, I wonder if this is actually the best year ever for injury optimism, because we're now living in the peptide era. And so, like, you see Patrick Mahomes shattering his timeline, Cam Scataboo shattering his timeline. You know, like, can you even test for BPC 157? Is this really like some miracle drug that just like speeds up healing time by like 5x? Maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 00:48:47 And like tendons regrow like weeds. Maybe. I don't know. But yeah, that's the one thing about George Kittle is like he's always hurt. But he's also like Wolverine in terms of how fast he heals. And he like plays through. anything. But yeah, for sure, you know, obviously tons of injuries. And he's getting up there in age. But, but yeah, I appreciate you capitulating to me here with this pick. And I'm happy to just,
Starting point is 00:49:12 you know, sit on the sidelines with our next two picks and let you take the wheel. Yeah. And shout out. If you have a peptide company, we'd love to sponsor you over at Fantasy Points. If you want to get George Kittle on a Sir Morlellan, Sir Morrellan and BPC, one of 57 stack. Let us know in the comments. He's probably on something even better than that. Shout out to George Kittle. We hope you come back and we hope you average like 20 points per game this year. And shout out to the fantasy points audience. We're going to be at 25,000 YouTube subs before you know it. And we're going live next week. Every morning, 930 Eastern time, I'm going live. Scott's going to be joining me several times a week. Brett Whitefield, look for Graham Barfield,
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