Fantasy Football Daily - How To Rebuild Your Dynasty Team Faster

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

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so much content. There are so much more out there as well. Depending on what you are looking for, of course, I am your host with the most time on his hands. Thomas, you can find me at El Nostra. Thomas,

my fun fact of today is that with the recent news of Michael Gallup retiring, the last transaction that involved Michael Gallup in the Dynasty Points League of Record. That'll be good. took place June 5th of 2021. And it was Michael Gallup, a 2021 first, a 2023 second, for Gabe Davis, another 21st, and a 22 third. So shout out Michael Gallup.

You had a great run. Secondary, fun fact, there has never been a bigger argument in the League of Record than there was for Michael Gallup leaving Dallas. and becoming a top 15 dynasty wide receiver. That argument lasted several days. Joining me today, obviously, something looks a little different. There is no Jacob. He's out making the world a better place as a lawyer.

Lucas Gilbert, his electricity is completely down. And right before the show kicked off, Ryan Heath was hit with a fever of 101, simply because he was talking about Deontay Johnson. So the man with us tonight is someone that helps behind the scenes, helps with research for the program. This is Alex Becerra. You can find him at Axe Becerra on X.

Hit us with your fun fact today, homie. What's up, guys? Yeah, my fun fact for today is, so I actually left trivia to come pinch hit because it seemed like everybody was trying to avoid you tonight, Thomas. And I'm going to steal my fun fact from trivia. And that is nothing to do with football, but Lake Baikal is the deepest lake in the world in northern Siberia. And that's my fun fact of today.

Some little bit of science, a little bit of geography for you. There we go. We'll take it. None of us do that because we are not, you know, we're not cultured enough for it, if you would. Look, pesky, I see you over there on X. No, that's just your profile picture. You are here on YouTube. Never mind.

Never mind. Never mind. You got me. You got me. Sean is also here. I'm interested in taking ownership of an orphan that is Michael Gallup, Tom Brady, Rob Gruncowski, and Antonio Brown. Yikes. A great team like five years ago. Oh, man. This one would be no no surprise if that was an actual orphan. Why nobody rosters that team. We are, as the thumbnail implies, we are going to talk about taking on orphans. Why I don't like to do it in the first place. But look, in this world. of Dynasty fantasy football, people that like to take on orphan teams and dynasty, there's a very, I won't say niche because Dynasty is just kind of niche in and of itself, but there is a community that just has a passion for rebuilding these teams. And we're just going to talk about not just orphans, but how to properly identify targets in redrafts and ways to really.

expedite your rebuilds. We, you and I don't like the idea of rebuilding period. We both played dynasty in a very specific window, which helps, in my opinion, limit the need for rebuilding. But we understand that it's not always possible to just churn out dynasty trades and find the perfect matches with partners.

I liken the dynasty trading a lot to dating, where you're just really looking for the perfect match. And sometimes it just doesn't happen. And you end up alone in 50 dynasty leagues, you know, crying in the really sad place. Yeah, and what you're saying is we do look at dynasties. I look at it as very cyclical. You know, like we talk about that two-year cycle a lot where in a lot of my leagues, I'm trying to compete, get that championship window in that two years, and then have the full rebuild done by those second two years where I'm back on top and ready to compete. So ideally, you're really hoping to either be first or last when you look at it that way in your leagues. And yeah, you're not you're not rebuilding.

You shouldn't be constantly rebuilding, I think, is that the point that you're making there. Yeah. If you're going to do it in a cycle, you've got to know how to do it. You've got to be able to do it fast and you got to be able to make effective moves to really help you get back to that championship position. Forever rebuilding. Like we, Lucas obviously makes fun of himself all the time for forever rebuilding. There's just, you know, it's a running joke here on this program. It can be, I don't, I don't know how I can put this.

It can be almost addicting, wanting to constantly just have nothing but youth on your team. I have seen a lot of dynasty teams that could be really good if they just finally moved some of the picks that they've accumulated or moved if you have, if they're just storing dynasty value for seemingly no constructive reason, holding youth and would be points is only fine to a point in my opinion. there does come a time where it is okay to move off. I also make the argument all the time on the show that you do not just have to trade your good players. I have slayer becomes good. Oh, we've got to trade them because that's not necessarily what we're saying either. What we are going to be talking about is finding the balance

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for Todd Todd Gurley should be priority one. Geez, shout out Todd Gurley. I took over a dynasty team. It was old as dirt sold everything off and starting started. I think you meant started. Oh no,

starting rebuilding. Oh my God. Starting rebuild. Started rebuilding this year with three first, three seconds and three thirds going to be a fun draft. That is definitely a great start for sure. Let's talk about Alex.

Let's dive in. to the first thing I kind of want to get in here, which is identifying your roster. When is it time to actually start a rebuild? Because there's layers to this. It's like it. It is hard to look at your team and go, I am ass.

Like it's tough. And sometimes your team is like deceptively good. So I like to start. off by going like if I if I if I kind of squeaked into the playoffs right which you shouldn't be doing in the first place that is a whole different video for a whole different day right just squeaking in in like sixth place is not a recipe for a success it can be in only certain situations but for the most part you don't want to be a tweener you do not want to be a tweener however if you squeak in and you're looking at your roster being like man if I

if this injury happens or if this player gets traded and then I hit on that like if you have to navigate narratives to see yourself being with the even within the top five I have to be the bearer of bad news it's time to go so that's how I identify it how would you be identifying and let's talk through it no I couldn't agree more if you're not in the top third of your league in a 12 man league then you're you're not you're not doing it right and you're not building it right and you're not building to the right point um in my opinion like if i know that my roster is not just one trade away from being an absolute contender for one of those top three spots then i'm in a rebuild and that's kind of the mindset that i approach it with uh if you're not one solid trade away from being

able to to get that first round by uh and really just uh increase those chances of making that championship round and then you're in somewhat of a soft rebuild at the very least you ideally to build that true championship roster. You need that depth too. And we're not, we're not playing to get the sixth seed or the fifth seed of the playoffs. So if you're not one one trade away, then that's when I say that you're really in some form of a reason.

Yeah. And it's, it's hard to do that. It is hard to sit there and think, well, I should really trade off some of these, you know, veterans and really,

again, like I said, realize that your team's just not it. It is often that we love our players when they're on our roster, just that little bit more than say if it would on someone else's roster. I know for me, someone who's in a ton of dynasty leagues that I will look at a player and that I have on my roster that I don't want to trade away.

And then be in another league and someone offers me that player. And I go, I wouldn't take him. Like, why would I trade for that? But yet I don't want to get rid of them off my own roster. Yep. It's just like from a roster to roster position that the attractiveness of that player can shift that quickly. And that's how fast you can get into the trap of holding on to Dynasty players. So identifying is the first step to me in knowing that it is time to rebuild.

Now, this is just as easy to do when you take an orphan roster and you look at it. First off, I just want to address that I love, and like I mentioned, love and appreciate everyone that takes orphans. As an orphan myself, there's just a connection to it to me. I appreciate every single one of you and the work that you put in. I understand. However, like myself, there is no faster way to lose a boatload of money like my foster parents did. When they adopted me, then there is in taking an orphan fantasy football roster. Nine times out of ten, those orphan teams are bare bones.

It is someone that has moved their draft picks. They have nothing but 32-year-olds, 30-year-olds, 28-year-olds. They're always, they've got the Jameson Williams that they drafted at 106. They've got Sky Moore on the roster. They had Trey Lance as their QB3. They're just more times than not absolute dog shit dynasty teams. And you have to truly be a sicko to take these on. They lose you money quick.

I don't take on orphan rosters because I don't have that in me. I'm not built like that. I don't have that dog in me. but we identify Rebuilders with these orphans and what to do with them the exact same way we do as any other dynasty roster You look at it And you have to look at yourself in the mirror

And you I will trade these players away I can't make it Okay now sometimes you can sometimes they're good But you like no You have to sit there look yourself And you like that meme dude pointing in the mirror That's you That's what you have to be doing to identify it

So it's you kind of know this stuff Ahead of time Like when you're like you someone's and we got those DMs you've gotten those DMs before you're like hey I need someone to take off over this roster here's what it is and they always go it's not too bad they've got some of their picks left and then on top of that if somebody's like we'll we'll pay year one you're going through this right now you took over an orphan roster in one of the oldest leagues that Jacob and I are even in it's a hundred dollar buy in and you're some sort of sick oh I'm sick

for a $100 buy-in? I'm sick because I take over orphans. Like, I do more orphans than startup leagues. Oh, you're insane. I've gotten to the point to where I'm in like, I don't even know how many leagues now between the ones that we co-manage. But I mean, dude, I agree.

You're throwing out all these nerdy, just logical reasons for why we shouldn't touch orphans. But you know what? I want to see if I got that dog in me. I want to see if I can jump. to a league where I don't know these people, I'm taking the worst roster, people who a lot of the times know ball more than me, like yourself and Jacob, and then beat them within my two-year window. And it's the most satisfying thing because, but sure, like, it's lost me money. If I get

one year paid for it, then I'm in though. Like, it's an easy sell because those are the leagues that I'm the most proud of for when I rebuild somebody else's mess and I turn it into something that can actually win. And that's just the fun and fantasy football for me. Obviously, there's an ego child to it. Absolutely. 100%. I, again, for me, it is just not in my DNA, but you identify it the same way.

What are the running backs I have? What are the receivers I have? And that leads me to the next thing. The first thing you need to do when rebuilding your team is identify your pillars. You have to identify. Look, I don't like calling them building blocks. because I don't think there is such thing because everyone should be available. Everyone should be tradable.

Every player is a buy and every player is a sell. We have said this multiple times on this program. It just comes down to value. However, you do need to identify what players to you are the ones that you are the most, that you are better off having than not having. And these player types do exist. we always talk about, oh, I want to trade Patrick Mahomes. I want four first form.

All right, he might be worth four first round picks. You're never getting four first round picks. And I know someone out there is going to be like, well, in my league, I got four first round picks, and I got Will Levis, and he let me name his kid. That's your league. And I'm very happy that you are able to do that. But it's not the average. So there are just some players you are better. off holding on to.

But let's talk about some pillars, types of players that we want to hold on to, or try to hold onto or get the most out of. For me, I think there's about, I think there's a list of seven players that to me are truly pillars. It is Mahomes,

Allen, it is Hertz, it is Lamar, it is Jefferson, Chase, and Lamb. Everyone else, not mentioned, can get moved. Tanner is Kyler

Spurgeon Tanner is Kyler a pillar I don't consider Kyler Murray a pillar because just he doesn't hold first round value for me Kyler is a buy but he's not a pillar to me there is a difference here

Kyler is a buy if I'm rebuilding because I would take all of those quarterbacks that I just mentioned even if they're a pillar and no I did not mention CJ Stroud because CJ Stroud for me is such a sell because he's a cell for players like Kyler. Kyler is a type of player that I would buy in a rebuild or identify because I could more than likely move a Mahomes, Allen,

Stroud, Hertz, Lamar, Jefferson, Lamb, Chase, any of these guys in the first round for him with pluses and expand the value of my roster off one player. If I am rebuilding on a team that has Kyler, Kyler is not someone that I feel like I have to hold on to if I can still get premium assets for him. He's going to be my least favorite quarterback to move because he doesn't have that first round evaluation.

But he is that second round startup pick and if someone came knocking for multiple first round picks and another quarterback, I'm having a hard time saying no if I know this team if it's time to go. You can't, in my opinion, opinion, snub moving Kyle Murray. To me, he's not a pillar,

but he is a buy. He is a buy if you can tear down to him. I agree with you there. And that's why I have a hard time saying like pillars because like you said, everybody has their price. The way that I look at it though is I'm only moving any of those guys from your list if I can get another guy

from that list with a little something. So the trades that you give me a lot of shit for is when I have like four, three pieces on on each side and it looks like a lateral movement. The reason I do that though is because when you have a guy like, like let's say you're tearing down from Jamar Chase Salman Raus St.

Brahm. I think that it's very a plus on top there is very getable in a lot of leagues out there. Not every league. Like you got to know your leagues, but if you can get that plus, I'm taking a lot. Like I'm any, almost any plus I'm taking there because to me, those are guys, within the same tier that to others might be a tier break. So when I'm looking to take advantage of kind of like those targets and what I'm keeping,

what I can't keep, what I'm not keeping, it's mainly looking at it in that tier. Exactly what you're saying with those seven, seven pillars. Yeah, 100%. And there are guys that I don't want to trade in a rebuild that to me aren't pillars.

Like I would not trade. You know what? Let's, we're going to take, you know what we're going to do? Alex? We're going to take a quick break. Okay.

And we come back from the break. We're going to look at the draft board. And then we look at the draft board. We're going to look at some tier breaks and some players that we're less, we're going to identify as being less interested in trading in these startups, or not in the startups, but as rebuild. Rebuild concepts.

You got to get out of startup season mode. My brain just never shuts off from startup season. And then from there, we are going to identify the next step in, what to do in a rebuild. So sit tight, quick break. When we come back, we are expanding on identifying

pillars as the second step in how to rebuild your orphans and your own dynasty teams. So sit tight. Okay, what we have here is Dynasty Data Lab our trusted number one source for ADP.

Find the link in the description. after the show. So we talked about how basically everyone here in this top list, Mahomes, Allen, Hertz, Jackson, Jefferson,

Lamb Chase. No, I did not click Stroud. I think his value is insane to me. Jacob and I disagreed on this just recently. I believe it was actually last week. Every year, you know what?

This is why Stroud's not a pillar to me. Every year, one pylon quarterback makes the way up here. Sure. It's been Burrow, it's been Herbert, it's now Stroud. Jordan Lovell. I can't remember if Lawrence ever got up there. I think he was six, seven a couple of years ago.

There's always one that makes it here. They have to go bananas consistently for them to stay there. Any ding to their fantasy value, the chances of them staying there are slim. There's other guys like Richardson and Caleb who are more likely to be in Stroud's spot next year than he is, in my opinion. So to me, he's a tear down and get out, especially if you're holding bank.

You drafted him at 16, 17, 1,8 last year when your team is still kind of ass, he is the perfect player to move for me. Absolutely the perfect player to move. Move him for a Kyler, if somebody wants to. Move him for a party and a couple of picks, for a Lawrence and a couple of picks. Dak and a couple of picks.

Golf for a couple of picks. He's just a player that I would tear down to gain more assets for. But let's talk about some players that I'm less excited to move because the value doesn't necessarily speak enough to me to move off of them if my team is bad. And there's a couple that stand out. It's the rookie quarterbacks to me, except for Caleb.

I would move Caleb because his value has already hit this top round startup pick evaluation, time is nigh to move him for maximum value right now. If he plays and is terrible, it may be a little bit harder to sell. I know that sounds crazy. I get it. Daniels is someone that I'm not necessarily excited to move off of. He's got that third round ADP right now. Probably should be a little bit more in the second round.

I would take him over LaPorta. I would take him over AJ Brown. I would take them over Jimmy or Gibbs. But again, are you going to get that in your existing leagues? Probably not. So I'm probably more inclined to hold them. May and McCarthy are two guys that I'm not moving right now. Yeah, I think it's fine.

It doesn't make a ton of sense to move them. I would say Brock Bowers, but I saw, oh, I wish I could remember. Sad Cubs fan user in the Fantasy Points Discord post. of trade. He moved Bowers for three first round picks. Some in 27, some in 26. And I went, you know what? In a rebuild, I think I would do the same thing. I think I would do the same thing. So you can even move guys like that. Like I said, there's very few. Yeah, I would in a rebuild, I would trade Sam Leporter for three firsts, for sure. If you're, if you're in a rebuild, no one's off limits. No one's off limits for sure. There's just players.

that I feel less inclined to trade, like I mentioned. So we've identified that there are some players that we don't want to move right now in a rebuild. We've identified what the major pillars are and explained why everyone else is really fair game. Those other guys, we do have, we did put it, we do had, geez, today, my speaking. A little while ago, when we were so full tilt, we did this video, should you trade Justin Jefferson if you have, if you need to rebuild? Yeah. You trade all, even the pillars. We're just identifying the players that we don't necessarily want to move.

But yeah, someone offers me three plus first for Jefferson on a rebuild. See ya. Yeah, if Drake London and a couple of first on a rebuild, gone. Because you don't have the option to say no. Pergin Tanner says, I don't have the Cajunas to move Stroud. That's fine. I get it. I get it.

It's hard. It's tough. Oh, what if, what if, you know. But look, to me, just value on a rebuild. He's just not a guy that I have one share left. And the only reason I have that share left is because I know the league that I am in doesn't care about quarterbacks. So I'm holding on to him because that's important too.

But okay, Alex, let's sit the stage. You've taken over an orphan team or you're looking at your team in the offseason. The first thing that you should be doing after you've established your pillars, you've checked around your league you know your settings it is a fire sale on running backs absolutely every time 10 out of 10 times i think that i just in that horrible orphan that i just took over in your league i'm pretty sure the first thing that i did was sell uh sell a running back i can't remember who it is but like some of the easiest running backs to sell this offseason sequin josh jacobs like you can take you can take some of these guys and uh and like karen's been

kind of weird you know he's kind of he's not very liquid this this offseason but sayquine i've had a ton of success selling and really getting some really good lateral moves there to a player like um like devontas smith plus or pitman plus anybody in that kind of nesting a receiver range um that's that's what i'm doing with that every time kenneth walker is another one that i'm selling if i can turn k kenneth walker in a dk macaf or somebody who's a little more insulated than their value um first thing you're doing every time. Sell your running back. It does not matter what running back.

Nope. Breeze Hall, Bejohn, Gibbs, you can all get it. You can all get gone. Because look, things happen really fast in this league. ACLs happen, you know, high ankle sprains. Now you can't move this guy. Oh, I really want to wait. You said it yourself, I don't want to buy into Bejohn until he breaks.

He's two one right now. His value is never going to be higher. And he didn't have to break out. You can move him now. There's as big a chance. I wouldn't say as big. But it is still likely that Bejohn goes out, heaven forbid, in week one, and something catastrophic happens or week three,

and now he bruce hauls himself into the third and fourth round. And now you have to hold that bag while your team rebuilds. I'm sorry. If you're, if you were a natural 101 last year and you drafted Bejohn, you're already fucked. Yeah. You've already kicked this whole thing off wrong.

regardless of you is the best player or not. If you were a natural 101, you either never should have made that pick. You should have moved off that pick. And now we can say that, well, you know, well, drafting Bryce Young was the wrong move at 101. Yeah, easy to say now. The best, oh, AR for sure. The best move you could have made if you were a natural 101 is to never make that pick in the first place, which is also important.

But that's again, another video for it. another day. I can tell you, I did not have a 101 where Bijon wasn't the pick because I already had quarterbacks. So very important to take that into account as well. We're not sitting here saying it's the power of hindsight. What we are saying is that if you are that bad where you are a natural 101, you obviously need to identify that having any running back on your roster is going to end up being a net negative because they're the short of shelf life. They have the most, you know, the most replaceable.

Replacable, most random acts of violence on their legs. They're the final piece of the puzzle when you're putting together your fantasy Ross. They are the only asset where one injury takes them out. If Jonathan Taylor has another season where he is a catastrophic injury, he's never touching this value ever again. Receivers can come back. Well, Tom, how do you know that?

People were drafting Judy in the fifth round last year. Receivers get just as much grace as really bad first round Caucasian quarterbacks. Okay, they get just as much grace as those guys. Running backs don't. They get treated like adopted stepchildren. As soon as one bad thing happens, the dynasty community is. done with them forever. Kieran Williams just went out and gave you Todd Gurley number.

I was about to say. They draft a rookie not high coming off a down year in college on a run first team that blew teams out every single game. Okay. Now look, I know people at fantasy points, Brett Whitefield, John Hanson, well, Corm's a better, more skilled and talented. runner than Kyle Williams sure the Rams

still drafted him late and no other NFL team wanted his services and a running back that just gave you literal league winning literal league winning production is already giving people the ick

they don't want him like you said he's not liquid you can't move him because they're already treating him like he's on the island of misfit toys it's the same thing through Shad White he was just coming off RB4. Look at,

like he's in the sixth round now. Like they're, they're the, the most dangerous assets to hold in all the fantasy. Like when you're, they are the cherry on the top of a Sunday of a championship winning roster.

Like that, that should be the very, the final thing that you touch there is, yeah, let's look at some trades that Rashad White's been in. Yeah. It can be, it can be tough to see two firsts.

If you're a rebuilding team, you got to. When was this made? Art 9, 12 team, the 22nd yesterday. this trade was made in a PPR league, a 24 first and a 25 first for a 25 second of Richard White. If you're rebuilding and you don't smash that,

you're already lost. You've already jumped the shark. All right, this is really bad Adam West Batman, right? Where the shark repellent spray and the shark blows up. That's how corny not taking this trade would be. I might have dated myself with that reference again. I do that seemingly weakly on this program.

How old are you? I know. I'm 35, but I feel 68, all right. Pro wrestling will do that to you. You should see me in public. We got, this is a one QB league. If you're in a one QB league, we got Caleb Williams for Rashad White and the third. Just so many opportunities to rebuild.

Rashad White for Javante, Ridley, and Estime, not as big a fan as that one. Of that one, I should say. but you want to move Josh Allen Alex you're rebuilding you want to move Josh Allen someone offers you a 25 first Rashad White and Dak Prescott does that even peak your interest

25 first no not even a little see for me I would be considering moving that those are more assets that I can move to help liquidate Rashad White and Mike Evans for a 25 first and a 25 third that's a little light

that's a little light but again I would say I needed to if that if that's the last last, if that is the most your league is telling you that they're willing to give you, yeah, you take that. These are just some examples. 24 first,

24 first and Algeir or Rashad White and the third. Will you take that first? Yeah, I'm taking that first, sir. Like, they got to go. And like you said,

he just finishes the RB4. So it's not like we're just sitting here, picking on Rashad White. He's so bad. Hey, he just finishes the RB4 and he's below Josh Jacobs, who's old, like older than 27 now with a new team.

And it makes us, it's coming on historically inefficient season. Exactly. When people are more worried about projected production than actual production, that's when you can really take advantage of them. You're doing these builds. And that's how you, at some point you got to be honest with yourself and what you were saying earlier with just holding the bag on some of these players that are just sitting there on your roster because you're hoping for projected

production for year after year. When it's just not coming, being able to recognize that. faster that's the two-year cycle that's how you avoid that and you keep on moving you're constantly building yeah if again if you're rebuilding you need those running backs off the roster now what i'm not don't hear what i'm not saying right i'm not telling you that are not even suggesting that you should just take the first offer for for bruce hall that pops up not what i'm saying all right and you might be wondering well tom how would you even have bruce hall there were teams that were really bad that I had when I was rebuilding where I traded for

Brees Hall when he got hurt because I wanted to store that value up and then you could move Brees Hall after I remember I picked up Brees Hall for I picked up Brees Hall and I think Calvin Ridley and I moved Mike Williams, Saquan, Barclay in a third that team was already bad I had no need for Barclay and Brees Hall being on IR just moved those points off of my roster, help me secure a better draft pick, right? So there are times where you could have had a Breece Hall

on your rebuilding roster, but you don't want any of these running backs. Excuse me, you don't want any of them. Kyrin, gone, Bejohn, Gion, gone. McAfree, definitely gone. ETN. Oh, ETN, for sure, gone. Jake or White, it doesn't stop. I don't want a roster. Jonathan

Brooks, however, I will say this. He is somebody that I'm okay, stashing on my I are. until he plays slow and correct i'll put him on my i are i don't want to move him if you're a rebuilder or you took over an orphan that's really bad and you had an extra 110 11 i have no issue if you took jonathan brooks i think that's that's fine if you want to make that bet for later i am not a draft to trade later person because i think you're have you need a lot of things to go right for you but i understand brooks and benson i get it all right stash him on your taxi and you call it a day

I understand. Every other running back that isn't a rookie or a really cheap sophomore, like a Chase Brown, better not be on your roster. Those have got to go. Move those assets for more wide receivers and more picks. If you have any high value running backs, turn them in the quarterbacks,

however you have to, whether you have to pay a little bit more to do it. Don't like the idea of giving up assets and a rebuild, but you have to identify. This isn't new information. running backs are the most fragile asset. Let me ask you want to get them off. What are you doing with players like, can we clip that?

With Zamir White or with Zach Moss or with those kind of fringe. Okay. You're selling them at current value. You won't give it a couple weeks in the season. Gone. Because look, again, what are you really pushing for? I agree with you. But it, I get it.

But I understand the fantasy mindset, well, they're going to play and they're going to gain value. Players still don't want to trade for running backs in season either. So all they're going to be doing is, well, I'm going after Zemir White and I'm going after Zach Moss because I don't want to pay that much. That's why they're coming. If somebody is knocking on your door because they want those running backs, it's just because they have walked straight past the mansions on the block that have the Ferraris in the garage and they're like,

nah, can I borrow your Pinto? Because to them, that's feasible. They'll take an Uber. Zemir White is an Uber in terms of dynasty running backs compared to renting a Ferrari. The Uber of running bucks. He's the Uber running backs.

Now, I am pro on this podcast, I have been pro Zemir White the entire off season and Ty Chandler and all these guys, the Gus Edwards, the Bucky Irving, the Zeke Elliott all those guys super cheap great move them and no I feel like this is something that a lot of rebuilders struggle with so I'm glad that we're talking on that how do you approach players who

you or the fantasy community as a whole feel like are on the cusp of a breakout right before they break out and that that kind of are you okay with missing out on that if they do like Don Tavian wicks what are you doing with a player like Don Tavian wicks on your roster moving him if I'm on a rebuild I'm moving him. Because you know what it is? We like to think we have all the answers. And eight times out of ten, we don't know shit.

Yeah. Now, yes, it can backfire on you. People sold Puka Nukuwa when he first started breaking out for a second round pick. Oh, no. I get why that might happen. But we're not talking about wide receivers in this case. talking about a running back. Wide receivers that break out like that like crazy,

I tend to hold on to. Wix didn't do that. The chances of Wix doing that in this offense is so slim. Because guess what? Jaden Reed broke out. He did. Second half? Crazy.

Yeah. We love it. Guess what? Jaden Reed is now across almost every dynasty platform I've seen. Worst bed at cost for the Green Bay Packers. Can't sell them. I saw him go for a second. second and a third in the legal record today or yesterday.

Yeah. It's like we love them. I'll say this. If Twitter, if Dynasty Twitter, if you're tapped in to Dynasty Twitter, if they love someone, I'm using that as much as I can to move off of it.

Because when the community as a whole thinks we have something locked in, we're wrong most of the time. Tyrone and Tracy, baby. Tyrone and Tracy. We're not wrong about Tyrone and Tracy. were just early, all right? Like, that's one. That's one for me.

But no, I'm moving him because he has a ton of value right now on these rosters. I would just move them. Yeah, absolutely. And when we were talking about projected, you move projected production for current production or for current value. Like, you take advantage of that because, yeah, it's fun to be right. But you're going to, if you play the, play the market, do the smart thing. Continue to sell those players when other people are high because they,

they haven't done anything. They haven't proven themselves yet. Most of the time they haven't proven themselves for a reason. Go ahead and sell them even if you feel like it's low. It's a smart thing to do. Stockpile value. Use that value to condense later on. Just get that.

Turn those points into value for now. Right. And I'm not saying there are. Like I said, there's not going to be players at running back that I don't want a roster. If I'm rebuilding, sure, Jalen writes, Marshawn Lloyd, Chase Brown, Kendri Miller, Zach Charbonnei, Kamani Vidal, even J.K. Dobbins, Bucky Irving, Ray Davis,

Braylin Allen, Tyrone Tracy, Audrick Estime, Jaliel McLaughlin, Ty Chandler. There is a ton of running backs. Antonio Gibson, Tank Bigsby, Isaac Arendo, Damien Pierce, Rico, Dowdell, all of those guys that are deemed bums. I want them on this roster, so hopefully I can turn them out for second round picks, third round picks, cheap wide receivers and third round pick, just constantly to be next year's Mike Davis.

They're going to be next year's year. They're going to be next year. And you just keep doing it. Somebody might be. I remember we flamed like a former host on this program, Billy the Stone. We flamed them for liking Zemir White and wanting to hold them. And now we're sitting here by Zemir White. I wrote them up in an article at fantasy points.com that you can

still get there as an undervalued veteran and a startup pick. He's still technically undervalued in that regard if you're building zero RB. People are already asking should we pick up Madison? should we pick up Madison. So training camp has just started and someone's already knocking on the door, right, bringing up Madison. We haven't even gotten the week one yet.

Bindle says trade read for Rice or Debo. Yeah, if it's possible, 100%. 100%. Best part is, since we're talking about rebuilds and orphans, if you can trade read for any one of those guys and a little bit on top, that's the move. That's the move. there are even other receivers that I would pick up. I would move guys like you mentioned, Dantavian Wix,

give me Michael Wilson and anything on top. Yeah. If I'm rebuilding. There's even ways you could make these moves for cheap, wide receivers. All right, we have to take another break.

It's our last break. And when we come back, we're going to move on to the next step on what to do with your rebuilds. and how to identify it to quicken the process for you. So you are not in rebuild. Hell, sit tight. Okay, we're back.

We've talked about shopping your running backs, coming to grips that your team is just not that good. Or coming to grips with you might have made a terrible mistake taking over an orphan. We have talked about identifying some pillars. Let's help people get some. trades done. Let's get more dynasty trades done.

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us up the algorithm. It helps a ton especially when you leave a comment after the video is over. The live stream is over or you post a video. It does. help us feed our families. As a Canadian, I do need my coffee and timbits. So thank you, Theo, the Greek. Brian Ford, Zemir is not Zero RB target.

He has a classic Dead Zone style back. Next, Madison, not very good at football. How is he undervalued? The LDD role in Vegas? Very good. 16 points per game over the last three games of the year, and he's cheap as hell. Yeah, I'll take it.

I'll absolutely take it. What up, Dan. Shout out to you. And he's also not in the dead zone. He is significantly past the dead zone. Ninth round, not dead zone for me. He's the SDD role short down in distance. I would put money that he's the first down back.

I would definitely put down, which is the LDD role. He'll be the guy. If Madison sees the field, oh, Lobby. Labe is not going to be the starting back on Vegas. Yeah, I don't feel very strongly about any of those guys in Vegas, honestly. For that price, who cares? I'm betting on why. Yeah, he's not, yeah, Labe to me is a bigger long shot to me to be fantasy productive in any capacity than,

than Zemir White. And White, believe it or not, a little bit better at catching passes than people think in his three starts towards the end of the year. Six targets against Indianapolis for five catches and against the Chargers. He had four targets for another three.

He definitely can do it, and he's not bad in pass pro either. Definitely somebody that I want to target. Anyway, definitely happy still moving, though, too. If you can get him for a second round pick, See you later. See you later. Yeah.

And the only running backs that I really am holding on to at all are rookies that currently have not touched the field at all. Like in that late late like that Tyrone Tracy, that. Mm-hmm. Grendo like players like that. Those are the only guys that I am keeping. And I'm, excuse me, I'm stockpiling those too because history has told us that one's going to hit.

Yeah. Isn't Lobby playing the Abdullah role? Yeah, the Abdullah role wasn't very valuable, which is my big point. Dead Zone is the genre more so than ADP, you're too smart to be in on White. What are you missing out on? I'm okay to have the, I'm okay to have the Zimmer White fight right now. What are you missing out on? Like, really? They're not missing out on much. Is he a little bit jumping the shark in the ninth round? Yeah. Love them in the 11th round. Got him in the 11th round. Loved him in the 12th round. Never going to cost you that in an existing league. Not in any league that I'm in.

And he doesn't go in the ninth round in any lead that I'm drafting in. And I've done multiple drafts recently. That's that's hot. This is a fake. Ninth round is a fake ADP. Can we click on them to actually like see the. Ninth, ninth round is a,

it is a fake ADP to me. This doesn't actually happen. Not in any league that I. I've ever been in. It's it's the same it's the same thing with ETN. ETN doesn't go here in this third round in any league that I actually plan. He doesn't go there. That's a that's a fake ADP. Anyway, that's that's yeah, that's too high too damn high. It's too damn high. Talked ourselves out of Zemir Wyatt now. No, I'm again, it's not as it doesn't reflect what his actual price. It doesn't reflect what his actual prices. It just doesn't. It just doesn't.

I agree. Yeah. If you take Zemir White than I. Madison Cheeks. Lobay. Cheeks. Right. Lobby was really good in C to C leagues like he was. But let's be real. Like it's just, no, I'm not even

saying that I'm not in on Dylan Lobby if I'm a rebuilder. Not at all. I would be. You know why? Because he's even more inexpensive. And we like that. We like that a lot. types of pluses that you want sixth round end of the sixth round pick in the NFL draft free I'll take that too if I'm rebuilding I'd rather have lobby for sure but points

on your roster is Mayor White's gonna do just fine for you all right let's let's look at how to actually define just in a in a startup and sleeper he E TN went 311 that's too damn high that's so high 311 that's damn near right next to him I don't see that ever. I would love for there to be more people in my drafts that draft running backs. If I'm being totally honest, I am real sick of everyone else drafting the wide receivers, so I can't draft them. It is really starting to piss me off.

Yeah, we don't need to see 55 receivers go in like the first four rounds, guys. If you can stop it, that would be nice. Let's talk about how to identify more of a match for your trade partners, because that's one of the biggest issues I see in trying to work through these rebuilds is we are just trying to stick a block in a round hole in a lot of these trades because there's just somebody that I need to have to make my rebuild complete. And when you lock yourself in to just needing one specific type of player, you are already handcuffing your rebuild.

So when you're looking at players and we want to find the right match, if you're trying to move a quarterback, maybe don't go and find the guy that already has three. If you're trying to move a running back, maybe don't find the guy that has six. You know what I mean? Like there are ways to identify. Go and find a team that may be in the top seven that you might think is actively maybe looking for a running back to make the difference on their team.

Go and see if they are interested in a Ken Walker, and an Isaiah Pacheco, a Josh Jacobs, a Rashad White, a priest hall. Go and find these guys. Well, you're like, oh, well, their pick. Their pick is, it's going to be later. That doesn't matter to you. that that should have no you're you're not getting a high pick more often than not when you're rebuilding you're getting as many picks as you can for dart throws yeah exactly so when you took over that

orphan what was the first thing you did for identifying a reasonable trade partner because you like we said Alex you've recently done this yeah and it's it's it's a gross one um so let me actually get that one pulled back up uh another thing i wanted to add to what you were saying is the best straight it's happened to my opinion when two people disagree on a player or they disagree on the value of something that that's what makes great players so your rebuilding strategy is going to be completely dependent on who you're playing in your league with it's you you're not pigeonholing your rebuild to uh to go one way and the way it's not going to go the way you wanted to if you try to uh try to do it like that it's going to be dependent on how other people in your league feel about different play

But first thing I did in my, in this one was figure out who's, who likes to talk about trades and who doesn't. That's, that's something that you and I kind of bicker about a lot is sometimes I like to talk about my trades in the DMs. And some people really enjoy that. And some people absolutely hate that like Thomas. You send me, you send me a paragraph about a trade. I'm not reading it, bro. No. Most of the time I'm not.

reading it like i've got to really be in the desperation streets to get into a back and forth with you i am i am not the ideal like trade partner if you're trying to i think i am what you're trying to say a little bit i know you're not wrong no what i was doing there is trying to buy time while i got this uh this recent trade pulled up so the the first thing i did here was uh i traded justin herbert Nico Collins, James Cook for T.J. Hawkinson, T. Higgins, Trevor Lawrence, and the 109. That was my very first move on this roster. It's a roster that's pretty devoid of talent outside of Herbert Collins and Cook were by far my top three players in terms of value on that roster. I moved all of them in one go. But moving from Herbert to Trevor Lawrence. So the first thing I was

looking for was somebody who was wanting to upgrade at quarterback because quarterback's the most overrated positions in super flex dynasty. Oh, it is the, it's the most overrated. Yeah. If you can make a lateral move and get a plus for any quarterback, uh, do so the first thing I did was Justin Herbert to Trevor Lawrence. To me, that's essentially a lateral move. And so that I knew that if I was going to plus he saw that as a tear break and I did not um look at higgins neco collins so I got t higgins with Trevor Lawrence he got Nico Collins with Justin Herbert I'm kind of breaking this straight down again when I'm rebuilding I'm looking to when I'm really competing I'm looking to consolidate as much production as I can to

start power when I'm rebuilding I'm doing the opposite I'm trying to break down and again move between between tiers for other people but within the same tier for me. So T. Higgins and Nico, they're both nesting doll receivers. Like I if you feel super strongly about Nico, then that like cool. I'm, I'm not going to fault you for it. And but to me, the difference in value in production, what I'm going to get between him and T is going to be minimal. And it's not going to make up the difference, uh, from T.J. Hawkinson and that 109 and James Cook. Um, and that really selling that running back, Cook is not an easy running back to sell. No running backs are super easy to sell in this league that you got.

man um but this was one of the only ways that i could find to sell and get james cook off of my roster turn them into brian thomas that 109 to pair with trevor lawrence so that kind of takes that's a perfect example of how i approach a rebuild and um i'm trying to tear down from quarterback i'm trying to sell my running back and i'm trying to make lateral tiers at positions important positions like tight-in receiver uh to me that are tier break trades for others yep Yep, that's exactly how we should be doing it for every position. Tering, finding teams that you can identify as a tier down situation. Here we go.

Theo of the Greek says, if you have Leporta in a rebuild, what would you trade him for? Any other of the tight ends, whether you're trading, and this is where I believe the whole tier down at tight end thing is a myth, like to begin with. to me you have to tear down super far for this tear down tight end thing to work. Most people aren't trading Mark Andrews or Kyle Pitts or T.J. Like, or sorry, they're not trading, you know, Andrews and Pitts and a plus for LaPorta more times than not.

They're not doing it for Bowers. They're not doing with McBride. They're not doing it with Kincaid. And you don't want Travis Kelsey if you're in that rebuild situation. That takes it out. If I'm looking for, a trade partner with Leporta,

first thing I'm doing is checking their warp and seeing where Sam Leporta fell in your league's warp, which you can do at South Harmon FF. We had Iowa Mike on a couple weeks ago where he talked about that. I strongly suggested for everyone. And I would be going and finding the warp equivalent to that tight end in wide receiver form and then start building your trade around that.

obviously it's really easy to just talk about oh i would trade them for for me is like a two and a half first place base first player let's just trade them for that and call it a day sure if i'm in a rebuild and i'm desperate enough i would do that but um it's easier said than done in terms of tearing down whom i identifying it's t j hawkinson if somebody is willing to trade you for sam lapporta and you are rebuilding to me hawkinson perfectly player to tear down to. He's going to be on the IR. He's not, he's not coming out the gates, even if he does his production, going to be lower. It's going to drive down your max points four. It's going to help you secure that pick. And if Hawkins, it comes back healthy and McCarthy or

Donald doesn't totally shit the bed, his value to me, he's going to jump from a sixth round pick. He's going to jump right back up to a fifth round pick the minute he starts playing football. he's going to gain some value, giving you another player that you can tear down even farther to. I would also be totally willing to accept a tier down to a guy like Evan Ingram, Jake Ferguson, as long as again, those pluses you're getting match the depth that you're going in ADP and total dynasty value. To me, those are the targets. If you want to move them straight up for a wide receiver, I think this is fine too. in a non-tight-end premium league,

I don't even care who my tight-end is. I just want Conklin. I don't even want a top-tier tight-end in a non-tight-end premium league because the warp just isn't there for me. I would just rather receivers at a high-end. Tight-end premium, yeah, try to tier down to another tight-end like Hawkinson, Ferguson, plus.

Those have to be substantial pluses, in my opinion. But that's kind of where I'm looking. I don't want to just give you a base first type gimmick because again, it's just kind of a cop out that I feel like some podcasts kind of do where they just say, well, just go trade this player for like a couple of picks. Well, then trade that player every couple of picks.

And after a couple of players, no one in the league has picks anymore. So it just gets to a point where it's redundant. I will say on the other side, I would see if it's possible to trade Sam Laporteur for a quarterback. I was going to say, I think that trading San Laporteur for a quarterback, quarterback, somebody like DAC, somebody like Trevor Lawrence, somebody like Bernie. I think that's very that I think that's pretty easily getable. And if that's something that you need, I think you pull the trigger on it. Yeah. Sam LaPorte is not somebody who I think is going to hold their value for years and years like Travis Kelsey did in this second round. I think somebody, I don't think that there's much a difference from a production standpoint at all or will be between Trey McBride and Sam LaPorte. I, I, Trey McBride.

is it's a 1A, 1B situation for me at the tight end one situation. I still don't really understand why there's a full round an ADP difference between the, so if you can get, which,

yeah, it's pointless to say like McBride Plus because, yeah, you're not going to get that. If you can get any of those top four guys plus anything at all except for Kelsey, then take it, obviously.

But realistically, quarterback is the next best thing with Leportive for me. I've had a lot of success doing that. That's, I find it easy. to trade him cross position than trying to tear down like trade him cross positionally pick up some ammo go get a guy like in joku or ingram or or jake ferguson at some point later on

right now don't me wrong i also don't want to roster jake ferguson if i can help it but in terms of these tight ends it's like who are you tearing down to a big jacqueson guy huh to not uh farm youth i mean jake ferguson had all the opportunity in the world last year and he was like barely half decent so just the likelihood of that like really happening although i did see someone call him the next Travis kelsey and i was like we've jumped the shark here big time uh i i just think he's just one of those guys he is just like a guy and look he's also like kind of in a spot of fragility right dac walks out the door next qb might not be that big a tight end guy so right now he is in the perfect spot and that's what makes me nervous so he is a high fragility tight end

type guy would much rather tear to Injoku. Some people might be looking to move off of them because Flacco's not back there, chucking the ball 48 times a game, whatever he threw last year. So that's kind of how I would approach it. I would first look for quarterbacks. I would then look cross-positionally. And then if I can tear down to some of these other tight ends and some multiple pluses,

I'm definitely into doing that. We're going to keep rattling these off to close these off. So if you've got questions, now's the time. When tearing down from Stroud to Love, what would you want as the sweetener? Now, this can be a very tough question to answer. Both quarterbacks have one year production. I mean, let's just call it like it is.

Both quarterbacks had their first year starting in the NFL last year. One of them goes, you know, half a round or so, let's say, ahead of the other. I'm trying to see if I have any. I did a trade with cheering down from Stroud to Richardson and got a really nice put. And this was during, so this was April 19th, so pretty recently. I got, I moved Stroud to 25 second for Anthony Richardson, late 24 first and 25 first. So that's the sweetener that I got from. And Jordan Love is essentially right there too.

So I moved Stroud in a second for, for Richardson to first. If you can get a first and a second or first and pretty much anything, honestly, on top of Jordan Love, I'm taking that for CJ's trip. Yeah. This is one of those things, too, high value wide receivers, Jalen Waddle and a two. I've seen before, you know, Devontas Smith in a couple of seconds. That's another good way if you're tearing down on a rebuild to just attain more assets. You want assets that have the opportunity to grow.

Now you already, to me, have the best case situation where you're moving for another quarterback, right? That look, if you told me C.J. Stroud and Jordan Love next year had the same fantasy points per opportunity. I'd be like, yeah, that checks out. I wouldn't be like, what, what? That wouldn't shock me because we've talked about it before, what a pylon quarterback has to do. Stroud and Love have the same mobility, in my opinion, right? The same odds that they're really going to break the bank in terms of rushing for me. So just if you look at what the ADP board here has to say,

there are some wider series you should be able to add in Waddle, London, Alave, neighbors would be a little tougher, but I would definitely be trying to do Adunze, IUC, all those guys, those are high key value assets. Now, the warp for Stroud to Love might be, you know, a little higher one way or the other, but the difference in that value is going to be made up by the asset, and that's how I look at it.

I don't look at it as linear as just player for player. You're adding in the aggregate with the extra that you're getting on. Right. Now, I don't want to have the add-on being like a Zay Flowers or like a DJ Moore. To me, that's a little bit too far. That's not what I'm really looking unless I'm getting something else on top. But if it's just one piece,

I'm looking for someone in that kind of third round startup ADP evaluation. or that fourth to fifth round startup evaluation with some kind of other janky stuff thrown in like a second or a third, maybe both, things like that. It's definitely doable and I definitely suggest making trades like this. Spurgeon, hopefully you're back next week so you can let us know how that went. Or you can get into the Fantasy Points Discord for free. Head over with FantasyPoint.com.

Make yourself a free account. Follow the steps. All the dynasty channels are free for basic. free subscribers of fantasy points.com. We are here for you guys year round. Chef said, what's good, everyone, feel like I'm late to a good party.

The best part, Chef, go back and watch on the replay and then leave a comment to let us know that you were there. Brian says, by the way, just busting chops on too smart

to like, wide hoping it sounds a business. Nah, Brian, no, you're good, baby. No such thing. Can't hurt my feelings. Yeah, I've tried.

Yeah, he does every day. I move Stroud for, Pennix, Adunze, and JT. See, for me, I'm not making that move. Like, this is a one QB, smash. Superflex, I'm not making this move because it involves a running back. That's just not, I'm not, I don't want to move quarterback for a running back. I like the Adunze thing.

Panix is too much of a wildcard for me. That's too much of a drop. I like the idea. I think the idea is good. Quarterback, you know, young, early Superflex, rookie pick. Again, single quarterback. I think this is a smash trade. for me because like you should be a hundred percent

a single quarterback yeah but a super flex quarterback is just it's just not quite enough for me there's a little light but I'm also not a by Jonathan Taylor type guy especially in the context of a rebuild not for me but if it works out for you

then I love it then I absolutely love it last thing I want to hit before we get out of here is trimming the fat yep very important roster cloggers on a rebuild. Now you might be thinking, that doesn't exist.

You can't have roster cloggers on a rebuild because your team's ass anyway. You should want every, no. There are definitely roster cloggers on rebuilding rosters and I see it all the time. Veterans being held on to

so hopefully we can move them. Now we did have a whole roster clogger episode where you talked about what is a roster clogger and what is not a roster clogger. To me on a rebuild, and look, roster clogger to me is not just somebody that I would cut. We went through this extensively on that episode. It just means it is somebody that I would sell for fab money if I had to.

Just players I don't want on my team because they're not going to bring anything for it. Zichael Elliott. I've actually, I've got three that aren't necessarily roster cloggers, but that I have no idea what's on. Sure, let's talk about it. Chris Godwin. Trade him for whatever. Chris Godwin on a, on a rebuild.

You're trading, you're trading them after a down year? Second round pick. Yo, God, God, yeah. Yep, take them. Give me a second round pick. Second round pick. And Christian Watson. Second round pick.

That was easy for you. Yeah. I won't even hesitate. You mean a second round pick. Second and third, I'd fight a little bit more, maybe. Yeah, on that team that we just thought about that trade. Yeah, I just moved the, uh, the two 12. for Chris Godwin.

Yeah, no, I remember. Yeah, I think that's steal, though. Yeah, that was the steal for you, and I was very upset about it, because the trade I got immediately thereafter was Jameson Williams for first. And I don't want to monitor. There are cases where I think it's okay

to hold a short-term asset for it, if it's going to go up there. You just have to realize that if you're rostering those three players, it's going to hurt your max points for. Yeah. And to me, if I'm really committing, I better not be the one three I better not be the one four

yeah that's fair I want to be the one one one at worst I want to be the one too Godwin Dijo all those guys they're hurting your max points four chef you don't like Zieg for this year I mean they have no one really yeah on a rebuild

no thank you right this is a rebuild episode don't want them because it's just going to hurt my max points for it's just going to even if your league's not a max point even if your league is not a max point even if your league is not not a max point four league. Zeke might rush for three touchdowns one game and win you a week. If that one win bumps you from 101 to 104,

Zeke just fucked you. Yeah. Don't want to. Give me a third. Mike Williams. Mike Williams is another one. Gone. Third.

Yeah. All those guys are. Third. Brandon Cooks, Rashad Bateman, Darnell Mooney, Tyler Lockett, DeMario Douglas,

Gabe Davis, Curtis Samuel, all these dudes. DeAndre Hopkins, Jehan Dotson, Rahim Moster, Austin Eccler, Romeo Doves, Jerry Judy, Josh Downs, all these guys are just hurting your max points for. See ya. To me, they're just not, I'd rather have third and second round picks if I can. If I can package them up and go get them, I'd love to do that.

Yeah. That's trimming the fat for me. And then players that I do want that you might think are those type of roster cloggers, Jacoby percent. Give me him. I'll see if I can go shop that guy when he starts for a couple of weeks. Sam Darnold love quarterbacks. Gardner.

I don't thought on this. Go and take quarterbacks. Take late quarterbacks. Yep. Take late quarterbacks. Aiden O'Connell, who I'm just going to call it, O'Connell starts week one for the Raiders. You think so? Yeah, I think it's going to be gardener.

I don't. You know why? Why? Because Devante Adams likes O'Connell. And if Devante Adams goes, you're starting O'Connell. They're going to go, yes, sir. Yeah. Also, Gardner Menchew's ass.

Gardner Menchew's ass. Gardner Menchew's ass. Like, but Aidan O'Donnell's not, I don't, they're both ass. I think, Gardner Mench's cool. I think Minchews more ass. I think Minchews more ass. I think, I'm going to call it week one, week one. He's got the Baker Mayfield Jr. Swagg.

I don't know. He gives me those vibes. Yeah, he's just worse, which is saying something. He's like Florida's. He's worst Baker Mayfield. Yeah, he's just worst. Baker Mayfield. Yeah.

He's like, he's like year two Mayfield. Like just handing the ball to the other team. Not good. Yeah. Yeah. No thanks. His stats for like the same is Trevor Lawrence.

If Devante Adams, look, he's going to throw Devante Adams the ball, which I think it's all Adams gives the shit about. That's the analysis that you come here for. That's the analysis. He's going to throw Devonte Adams the ball. Yeah.

He has, he has those love eyes for, uh, for Adams, no sketch. And to me, that's what I want. So I am pegging AOC as the week one start.

Are you now? Yeah. 100%. I know what I said. I know what I said. I know what I said. And I stand by it. God damn it. All right.

Well, I want those. Like I said, I want all those quarterbacks. Drew Locke. And the late running backs, man. Yeah,

Winston for sure. Drew Locke. Yeah, the late running backs. Even the Eric Gray's, Isaiah Davis, Blake Watson, did talk to,

uh, Commander's beat reporter. Chris Rodriguez Jr. Probably dropable, which makes me sad. But even guys like Abanacanda, Miles Sanders,

Trey Sermon, Donta Foreman, forget Clyde Edwards, Lairn, A.J. Dillon, get out of here. AJ Dillon's not even making the roster.

Khalil Herbert, Rico Doudal, Tank Bids, B, I will not hear anything about A.J. Dillon from you, sir. Ty Chandler,

estimate, all those running backs late, I will take. And then, of course, right the quarterbacks the sam howell the o'connells the the wilson's the minchews all those late round quarterbacks those are the players that are just the easiest to flip for value ambiguous tight ends is another one so easy to identify these late round players that you should want on a rebuild for flipping purposes and value accruing purposes uh and a lot of players you shouldn't

is Pratt on your list I gotta be honest with you not someone I thought a whole lot about but yeah if they're late sure if they cost me nothing sure absolutely when I was going for the rebuild I went hard on fab for any running back fodder

and sold them for picks for those computer playoffs paid off for second and third round picks Sean you should have done this episode you should have done this episode that's exactly what you want to do you know, turn out waiver wires as much as possible. I did that my home league year one.

Help me win the league. Cream hunt for a 25 second. Perfect. That's perfect. That's exactly the type of deals that we are talking about. Capitalize and always stay active. I'll also say Hayden Hurst. Pick up Hayden Hurst if you want to move him.

He's probably on your waiver wire. Number one tight end. Number one tight end. Greg Roman offense. He has familiarity with him. Get him. He's definitely somebody I can see. someone paying a second round pick for in week seven right like he's just yeah tight ends

quarterbacks uh let's get some final thoughts Alex final thoughts uh final thoughts uh final thoughts uh don't wait too long to recognize that you're in a rebuild that's part of why i like orphans because it's easy to look at it and say this team sucks don't be afraid to tell yourself that your team sucks if you're not more than one trade away it's uh or if you are more than one trade away, then it's time to start taking a hard look at you, Tim. Mm-hmm. No, I agree. I agree 100%.

I can't disagree with that. It is the hardest part of the rebuild is coming to terms with the fact that your team may not be as good as you once thought or you've just finished your draft and you realize that you blew it. It's tough. It is tough to figure this game out. I will say one thing we didn't hit on today that I wish we did. was not tearing down to the framework.

Okay, you need some value remaining on your roster. We talked about early in this offseason in the Discord that it can tearing, really breaking your team down too far, can do more damage for your team than good. You don't want to have no players and just picks, makes it real hard.

That is why we talk about tearing sideways and the differences in the trading system and not just looking for nothing but picks. Tearing sideways and adding on is the way to go. Tearing it down bare bones is possible. But you got to be a real sicko, like one that takes on a bunch of dynasty orphan teams. Real sick, man. Real sick to be willing to rebuild that deep. for now, that's going to do it. Hopefully you've helped learn a thing or two.

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