Fantasy Football Daily - Injury Insights with Dr. Mark Adickes | Hansen's Hints Podcast

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) welcomes in his good friend Dr. Mark Adickes (@jocktodoc), orthopedic surgeon and Super Bowl champion as an offensive lineman with Washington, to answer some big injury questions headed into the 2023 NFL season. Want to join a high-stakes dynasty league -- or any other high-stakes league -- like John? All new FFPC users get $25 off their first FFPC league of $35 or more, including dynasty orphans, using our affiliate link: https://myffpc.com/cms/public?affid=fantasypoints FANTASY POINTS PROJECTIONS ARE LIVE FOR ALL STANDARD AND PREMIUM SUBSCRIBERS! Interested in playing Best Ball in 2023? There's no better place than Underdog Fantasy. Use our code FANTASYPTS to sign up for a new account at Underdog, and not only will you get a 100% deposit match up to $100... but you'll get a Fantasy Points Standard subscription for only $5! https://www.fantasypoints.com/underdog --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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from numbers to the film room with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. All right, here we are another edition of Hanson's Hints here at FantasyPoint.com. I am John Hanson. However, I in this episode, am not the person who will be dishing out the hints. That would be our guy, my guy, Dr. Mark Adick, certified orthopedic surgeon from Harvard and certainly a Super Bowl champion. I've been talking with him for over a decade, working with him on television, one of the nicest men I've ever met. Doc, what is up? How are you?

Gu-boo, it's been a while, waiting for the season to start. Getting excited. Training camp coming up. This is our first video that we've ever done. This will be, if you're listening in podcast form, we do have video this here. We actually, we're off to a good start. Our little template looks pretty damn good here. We're centered. We've got about the same amount of headspace.

So it's been going really well here in this off-season heading into the 20-23 season. So we hope to have you on here. basically every week periodically whenever something pops but really like a late in the week kind of round up on all the injuries and for those who don't know uh doc addicts here played football at a very very high level let's just go through your resume real quick um we'll start with in college at bearer you wrestled a bear right is that is that like uh i mean that stands out to you had a mullet and you wrestled a bear i had a mullet and wrestled a bear i benched 500 165 pounds.

Woo! Wasn't all American. And then I was a first-round draft pick. Actually started off blocking steep for Steve Young in the USFL. Two years there. Then I was a first round draft pick by the Chiefs, played for the Chiefs for five seasons, then the Redskins for three, won a Super Bowl with the Redskins, and then said, what am I going to do with the rest of my life?

And got all my pre-med stuff done and got into Harvard Medical School. Orthopedic surgery training at the Mayo Clinic, than the Seben-Hawkins Clinic in Bail, Colorado. And now I've been an orthopedic surgeon for 17 years down in Houston. And you are the guru of making a call. It's a very precarious situation that you've been in for the last decade. I've seen you. I've been real long with you the whole time, nine straight years of basically predicting

severity of injuries. But, you know, I will say I've noticed we all want to get better at our jobs. I don't know. I think everyone in America is getting work. at their jobs these days, but, you know, we all want to get better at our jobs, and you progressively seem to get a real feel for it at some point where you really can kind of make a pretty solid call, like in real time, just off of a video, you know, that's just all part of the process, because I don't know if you were as good at the end

as you were in the beginning in terms of those, in those terms. No, I mean, I think that absolutely having played, having been in, injured, having had surgeries myself, and then being an orthopedic surgeon, you know, we also see very often athletes come in and they have the video of their injury. You know, nowadays, I mean, they have huddle, whether it's a high school athlete, or they have some game film, or their parents took the film. So it's not unusual when an athlete comes in with an injury that he actually has the video of his injury.

And so then being on the fantasy zone with DirecTV and NFL Sunday ticket, yeah, that's a what we did. I mean, I was doing live analysis of videos of injuries of NFL guys and then say what I thought. Is this something the guy can come back in the game or is it something that's going to keep him out for a week or two weeks or is this a season ending injury? And, you know, I think, yeah, the accuracy was pretty darn good. I did notice to me, in my opinion, and I could be wrong. It did feel like you were a little bit on a streak there, almost how I could get on a streak of having clarity and making a bunch of good calls week in and week out. I felt like you were like in the zone there for a number of years where you were like

predicting everything, you know, and it was oftentimes there were contrary reports out there and you ended up being right. Like I feel like you were in like a zone there. I definitely think I was. I think it definitely helps when you're not just a doctor, when you also have experienced some of these injuries yourself, right? I think it really makes it, it makes it easier to do. And then the more experience you have as an orthopedic surgeon,

and the more times you see guys who come in and you're evaluating your injuries, and you're looking at their videos, it just makes it that much easier to do it when you're doing it live on air. Well, I'm glad in a roundabout way, we kind of gave a little bit of, you know, a little bit more bio, a little bit more background information on you, just so people know what's up. You know what's up.

Now, the role here. will be a little different. We're just going to, you know, talk about these injuries, try to get a handle on them for an edge, for an advantage. And for the first episode here with you, Doc, we'll start with what I think are the top, like, seven key injuries here that have fantasy managers, you know, wondering about the player. So let's start with Giovante Williams. And you know, that's my guy. And you were there. No, you were you were you were you were too dishorn from the beginning. Yeah, and you were there when when we saw the tragedy unfold. I'll never forget it. You were like four feet in front of me where you just had this dire. That was a good example of like you just had this studying your body language. I was like, oh boy.

And you were right. You know, well, explain exactly what he did and, you know, the severity of that compared to like a regular ACL. Well, you know, he's making a cut and he gets tackled and he injures his knee. And, you know, the concern is always is it going to be an isolated ACL, which in a perfect world, an isolated ACL, you can see somebody come back in his early as six months, right? And so for a guy to get hurt, even towards the end of the season, he could easily make it back for training camp if it's just a truly isolated ACL injury. In Javante's case, he actually got his. his LCL a little bit as well, lateral clitoraligament.

Right. And anytime you add other things to the injury, you're going to add a number of months generally to that rehab. And Javante did get his LCL a bit. And, you know, keep in mind this injury was in October, right? So worst case scenario, if it took him a year to get back, he's still back in the middle of the season. But it's also possible if they can come back as early as nine months.

So if you're talking that, you have a guy that may even start to get a little bit of work in training camp. So I think Jibante, I think there's a lot of optimism about him. And seeing what the Broncos have done at running back, yeah, they signed Raji Pryan, but they passed on Delvin Cook and they passed on Leonard Foremet. They passed on a number of guys they could have signed. So that tells me that his rehab has to be going pretty well. And so it wouldn't surprise me if we. see Javante earlier in the year rather than mid-season or late season.

How good of a sign is it that he's actually cutting at this point? I don't know, and we're going to get into J.K. Dobbins. Maybe he was doing that. How great of a sign is that? How concerned should we be for a setback? I mean, is it any higher risk? You know, it feels like you don't hear about like, oh, he's suffering a little swelling, or I guess once in a while.

It seems like a lot of these ACLs come out a little clean here, but this one's a little bit more complicated. So is that a good sign that he was out there cutting right now? It definitely is because, I mean, the last things you do are sprint and all these explosive movements and cutting, right? So if somebody's cutting, they're on the way. They're on the way to being able to start to participate in some non-contract drills. And then obviously the last thing you'll see is slap it on the pads and actually taking some shots. But no, I mean, I think it's a great sign that he's cutting. And I just think that the overall feel, listening to what the coaches are saying,

I think they have some optimism that he's going to appear early in the season. Now, he just turned 23. So based on this positive trajectory thus far, should, can we be confident that the 23-year-old Giovante Williams you know, maybe it's toward the end of the year until he's truly back. Can he have a complete recovery? You know, based on the information we have right now,

how would you feel about the notion that Giovante Williams can basically return 100% to what he was pre-injury? You know, I see a lot of guys after they suffer an injury sometimes even take it to another level. I mean, Adrian Peterson, after his ACL, he came out and had his best year ever, right?

So, you know, I mean, I think this is an injury that he can recover completely from and have a very successful and productive career. And do I expect him to put up big numbers if he does return early in the year? It may be mid-season before we see him start rounding in the form. Gotcha. I mean, not to segue to J.K. Dobbins, but we saw that a little bit last year with J.K. Dombins. Yeah. Well, let's do just that. and we are a year ahead of Gervante, basically, like almost exactly.

By the way, that injury wasn't early October for what it's worth. There wasn't like a couple of days before Halloween, too. It was like, you know, like October 5th. But JK so far has stood for just kidding in terms of fantasy. But, you know, eyeball test-wise, early on, I did not think he was moving well at all. He ripped off a couple of plays. But the data and, you know, fantasy points of data launching this year, year we got so many data points. It's crazy, but, you know, the data points did, did look good.

This is the last year of his rookie deal. There's no fifth year option. So I'm all in here on JK, let's go. Maybe not doing a ton with the team now, you know, entering that last year. I don't know, maybe he's hoping for a payday beforehand. But where are we, in your opinion, with JK Dobbins? Yeah. So, I mean, if you remember, he was hurt, what was the last preseason game, like in August, the end of August in 21. And then he missed the entire year. And he came back early. I guess it was late September, played four games.

And now his injury was a really bad injury because he had an ACL. He had the lateral collateral ligament, ripped the hamstring muscle off the bone, also had a meniscus. So this was a big deal. A lot more than Giovante. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. I mean, yeah, a lot more than Javante. And with the bigger injury.

is a bigger surgery. With the bigger surgery, you get more scar tissue. And so this is a guy that came back, and I think you and I even talked about it. I mean, he did not look good. Those first four weeks, he was averaging just over about three yards of carry seemed to be, I mean, fully limping almost.

And, I mean, it was really concerning. And he went back in, had another scope, missed a couple months, and then he came back, looked like a different, guy. I mean, his last four games that he played in had a couple where he went over 100 and average like seven yards of carry. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think that that's the guy that we're going to see. I mean, is this, I mean, you can always say, well, I mean, how many years is he can be

able to play after having an year? Well, you just don't know. I mean, some of these guys can go a decade on a knee that's, that's a little bit banged up and yeah, has a little bit of arthritis. But some of these guys are just tough, and they can continue to perform at a high level, despite the fact that they have a damaged joint. And I thought he looked great at the end of last year, and I agree with you. I mean, coming into a, you know, sort of a contract year, I mean, I think he's going to, I think he's going to let it on fire. I mean, they have a lot more weapons to sort of open up for him. I mean, you know, Lamar's going to be hungry to show people what he's all about. And so, yeah, I think JKs going to have a great year.

So last year, last four games, you know, the first four games, three point five yards per carry, two point four yards after contact per carry per fantasy points of data. Last four games, seven yards a carry, four point two, three yards after contact, damn near doubled it. So he gave us the answers to the 2023 test late last year, right? Right. Yeah, well, I mean, sometimes guys, it's almost like a scar tissue thing. Your knee just feels stiff and it feels tight. And an orthopedic surgery can get in there and remove some of that scar tissue. And all of a sudden, you just feel like a different person. You have more normal range of motion. You can make the cuts you want to make. Your knee's going to flex the way you want it to flex so you can actually, you know, jump over a pile or, you know, an arm tackle or, you know, just someone who's getting in your way. So I just felt like he looked like a completely different. different guy when he came back at the end of the season.

Okay. Well, you know, we're still wondering about another knee comeback here that at quarterback in Kyler Murray, now you don't get into the ADP stuff, but we've actually, we're ahead of the markets here because the markets, if you will, are not exactly confident on Kyla Murray, only QB 22 off the board, which, you know, if he were completely healthy, he'd be like QB7, something like that, you know? So I don't know. Might be a little bit of a buying opportunity.

Maybe the updates are a little cryptic. I know you've looked into where he is and all that. But where do you think we are with Kyler-Marry? Where might we be in six weeks when camps are in full swing? I mean, part of the problem is it was a week 14 injury. So it was in December. So, again, it was very late in the year. it looked like a pretty clean ACL,

but apparently he got a meniscus tear as well. So that just complicated. And if you think that, okay, six, seven months in a perfect world with a truly isolated ACL, all right, then you're looking closer to nine, ten months when you're talking about somebody who also had a meniscus tear. And the way he moves and the way he plays, I think he's going to be one of those people

that really is going to want to be truly 100 percent before he gets out there. And so it does worry me that he may not come back to midseason. And then when he does come back, it may take him a while to really have the confidence to be, you know, the Kyler Murray that's going to be productive. So, yeah, I think that the markets as you're right. Yeah. Yeah.

Would be the first time. Probably pretty accurate. Okay. Well, normally, excuse me, normally I'm kind of. skeptical, but is an opportunity with a cheat code guy. Yeah, no, I mean, with the way he runs the ball, I mean, and can score with his,

with his, with his legs. I mean, yeah. So I don't know, though, man. I mean, I mean, would I be absolutely shocked if he plays early in the year? I mean, I wouldn't be, you know, completely shocked, but I just, I'm expecting more of a midseason return and, and then for him to kind to take a while to round and to form. If he could be Kyle and Murray for eight games. it's pretty good. Right.

You know, QB18, but, you know, there's going to be some zeros in there as well. We're talking best ball and all that. We are talking right now with my guy, Dr. Mark Adick, Super Bowl champion, orthopedic surgeon out of a little school named Harvard you may have heard of. And the best in the business when it comes to breaking down sports injuries and the like. And I always like to pump doc up by when I introduce them on Sirius XM. Well, let's bring in the man, Dr. Mark Adics. He did RG3's first ACL, and then he won the Heistman.

And then the second one, I don't know, crickets. No one called you, Doc. No one called you for the second one. But we digress. I love pumping up the doc. When we work with the doctor for almost 10 years, you know, all we did, Peter, Dan Helley, James Coe is we basically pumped you up. That must have felt good.

Ten years of being pumped up, right? You guys were awesome. Now, we were very supportive of each other. You guys pumped me up, too. But let's get into the next injury here, and that would be Cooper Cup, aka the football nerd. And I did see some video of Cooper Cup out there running.

And so he seems to be well on track. What exactly has he dealt with here? What are the chances of recovering? It was week 10, November 13th, he had that high ankle sprain that he never returned from. And originally they were kind of waiting for it to heal. And then I think they finally decided that he wasn't going to play it. He underwent surgery, right? So they have a really fancy surgery now called a tightrope where because when you have a high ankle sprain,

you basically tear the ligament that holds the tibia to the fibula and it separates, right? So what they do is they drill two tunnels through both bones, and then they put little buttons on both sides so it keeps the bones together so that ligament can heal. That's indismosis. That's what a high ankle sprain is. And so what that does is it reduces it to an anatomic position, and it ensures that it's going to heal right where you want it to heal. And so, I mean, this was overkill. I mean, if they were in the playoffs, it might have been something that he could have played with without the surgery. So is it going to be the bionic man this year upon return?

That's right. Are we in better shape with this product? Exactly. I mean, he's 100% healed at this point. And, you know, he's had the surgery, which maybe he didn't need, given that they went ahead and, you know, ended the season for him. But, yeah, I expect to see Cooper Cup. After the way he came back from his ACL in 2018.

True. Prior to that, he was kind of like, as you say, a jag and just another guy, and then he came back from his ACL, and all of a sudden he's one of the premier wide receivers in the league. So this is a guy that knows how to get the job done in the rehab. And, I mean, he looked like Cooper Cup in the video that I've seen of him. Yeah, yeah, no question. Yeah, he did look like Cooper Cup. Let's move on here with Dr. Mark Addox, special contributor to FantasyPoint.com.

Breece Hall, another running back, another ACL, another heartbreak for yours truly. We loved him as well this past year. And once again, another dude we thought was a stud. And he was. But that injury, you know, I'm sure you've seen the updates here getting as much as we can. You know, it doesn't seem like we're on track to be good to go week one, but probably, I think, going to avoid a PUP situation. Might he need, you know,

two, three, four games? He's a young guy. So this is, this is as close to an isolated ACL as I think we saw last year. Right. You know, they said there was maybe a little minor meniscus injury. But when that's the case, I mean, maybe they threw one stitch in it, maybe there was just a little piece to trim. But I think this is as close to an isolated ACL as we get.

Again, this was, you know, mid the late season, October 23rd injury, week seven and this is something that even if it's nine months he's ready to go at training camp yeah I think that there everything that I've read I think that there's a lot of optimism that no don't expect to see him

in training camp or preseason but that they are going to try to work him in early in the season so I do not expect Bruce Hall to miss much time and I think that he, being a young guy, I think he's going to recover and he's going to be effective pretty early. You know, I mean, it doesn't take that long with an ACL that is isolated.

Right. Guy just got to, he just doesn't take a hit or two, and all of a sudden he's like, oh, I'm okay. And we're going to see him perform at a high level. So of all these injuries, I think Bruce Hall is the one that probably is going to be back to speed the fastest. Okay. So, yeah, so he's the guy that I think of any of them has the best chance,

of the ACLs has the best chance to play week one. The markets are valuing him, you know, pretty high, basically like two or three draft spots from Josh Jacobs, who was an absolute stud last year, going off the board like five picks after Derek Henry. Wow. Yeah. All right. So somebody agrees with me, I guess.

Yeah, those markets are pretty savvy here, talking with our guy, Dr. Mark Addix once again here. Well, moving on to the next guy. I only have a few more here. Rashad Bateman, I'm trying to pull up the quote from our guy, Adam Kaplan. I forgot to inform you of this, but, you know, Kaplan was basically reporting,

like full Liz Frank situation here with this foot issue. I know you probably looked into it. where are we at with Rashad Bateman? It just, an injury like that, like I always worried about the in season, you know, like,

oh man, this is going to be a problem all year. But now that we're completely removed from last year, could we get a clean bill of health and be past this here? Or might we still be worried about that? I mean, so, yeah,

so the injury was like a week eight, October 27th. He was diagnosed with the list, Frank. He did have surgery. And, And so generally that surgery is kind of similar to the high ankle spring. What you're trying to do is you're trying to pull the two bones together and then get them

to heal right where they need to heal. Now he was on field for the OTAs on May 22nd. And then on June 13th started to have some soreness. And now they've done a cortisone shot into his foot. And they're saying he's going to miss several days. haven't said how many. Generally, when someone has a cortisone shot, they don't let them do much for a week, and then they'll let them do some rehab. So I wouldn't expect to see them back for a couple weeks. Now, sometimes that's enough, right? You have the surgery, you've got a little

inflammation, a little scar tissue, and a cortisone injection can, one, get rid of the inflammation, two, kind of soften that scar tissue up so the foot can get back to a more maybe anatomic position. But Liss-Frank's are worrisome because sometimes people end up having chronic issues with it. But I'm hopeful, I mean, he's had enough time, he's had the surgery. I'm hopeful that this cortisone shot and the time between now and training camp kind of gets him back going. But the Liss-Rank's, it's a scary injury because it can be something after a Liss-Frank injury, you can develop, you know, sort of chronic inflammation to your foot. And for a wide receiver, that's a big deal.

Well, you know, as I told you, I dated Liz Frank in high school and she was very mean. She upgraded my ass. She dropped me like a bad habit. She probably made a good call at the time. But yeah, very hurtful. Dr. Mark Addix, how about a rookie running back who I have been all in on? maybe it's not the level of a giovante because doc for those watching and checking this out you know he saw firsthand you know the love affair that I've had with some of these running backs like

jonathan taylor yeah jonathan taylor would be number one but giovante is a close second yeah well and then this past year if you recall my guy rashad white um who showed very well who i interviewed chopped it up with recently like two weeks ago unbelievable kid you know I met him at the combine too, but, you know, I watched Tajay Spears at Mobile at the Senior Bowl. Man, he was unbelievable. He was the best skill player there, just making guys miss. He's not the biggest guy, a little bit of a tweener, but he's just got something special there. So I set up an interview with him, and he's one of these instinct guys.

Like, don't ask him about a play, you know, afterward because he has no idea. He's just going off seeing color, reacting and all that. But he could do everything, you know, put him in a play. wildcat short yardage good receiver i mean everything like he's not considered like a stud but i got like a sneaky stud vibe you know but then all the reports come out about this damn knees had multiple aces uh he had reportedly doesn't have an acl so what about this ACL independent thing where some human beings i guess they're like eh ACL schmachiel uh what do you think about this situation All right. So, I mean, not every ACL injury is the same, by the way,

but I read about what he's doing in his OTAs. I mean, apparently he's really impressed the coaching staff. I mean, they're already saying that he's probably RB2. He's been doing so well. Right. Why, they took him. They took him in the third round, which means something. Right.

I mean, but that is after Ian Rappaport said, he's playing without an ACL. He's got full thickness. cartilage defects, he's got arthritis, you know what I mean? I mean, which sounds horrific. I mean, it should be on a walker. You know what I mean? And here's the bottom line. Arthritis is the wearing of the cartilage on the ends of your bones, right?

Everybody has it by the time they're out of high school. So you tell me somebody has arthritis, and I'm going to say 100% of the guys in the NFL have arthritis. Okay. How a full thickness, cartilage defect, that's a little scarier. but you can have an MRI that shows a little tiny place where a piece of cartilage is missing that does not mean anything. The other thing is that when an ACL tears, sometimes the way the torn ACL falls in the joint,

it scars to the PCL and you're really not unstable. Like bonds. Yeah. And so even though he doesn't have an ACL, he doesn't have an unstable knee. And watching Tadji Spears move, He does not have an unstable meat. That's right.

Despite the fact that he's got arthritis and full-thickis carless defects and no ACL, I see a kid who's got a need and doesn't hurt him that's stable and allows him to cut on a dime. And so might his career be short? It might, but it might not. It might not. He could play a decade. There it is. You watch that kid?

You watch a little bit of him? Dynamic, man. No, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think he's more fun. I think he could be great. Yeah. A little thunder and lightning in Titanville, that would be great.

Yeah, and they're going to move on from Derek Henry next year. He's gone. So they want to be a little less, you know, leather helmety, you know, and Tadjay Spears could, you know, yeah, like, freaking 2,000 yards last year and like 19, like I said, the kid, I asked him anything, like, you know, what is it? You know, what do you think of some wildcat? I did that.

I did some wildcat all day long. But yeah, great kid, good kid, and great stuff there from Dr. Mark Adix on Tagee Spears. I don't think there's been anyone out there higher on him than me. Maybe, I don't know. But, Doc, you can, I think you can keep touting him. I'm not, I'm just not worried about him. And, you know, Charles Mann, who played with me with the Redskins.

You know, he tweaked his knee. They didn't have an AICL. and then like a little while later he tweaked his other than he didn't ever ride didn't have an ACL on the other side either and played his whole career that way well it like it did fun obviously did great by the way the name dropping that you can unleash on us all year is unbelievable like such a small little network of people in that NFL world like you know so many people like why don't you name your most famous teammate at Baylor because this is a big ass name. Oh, I mean, Mike Singletary. Mike Singletary. Boom.

I mean, boom. Yeah. I want winners. No, I mean, I mean, insanely great player. I remember my brother always liked the Pittsburgh Steelers and I always like the Dallas Cowboys. And your brother played the NFL too, right?

Mike Steelter was available to be drafted by the Cowboys at the end of the first round. And when they didn't take him, I became an ex-caboy fan. And then having played for the Redskins, of course, I hate the Cowboys. Oh, wow. Wow. But your brother played in the NFL too, right? Your brother played.

Your brother played in the NFL too, right? Yeah. He played for the Bears. Yeah, he played for the Bears half season for the Vikings. That's unbelievable. And, yeah, well, we'll end on that note. Is there, I'll leave you with this. I didn't ask you this question before, but we've talked plenty.

Like, you know how skeptical I am. on older players in general, especially nowadays, like Darren Waller last year, I'm like, oh, 30 years old, holding out, holding in, looking for a contract, like, no thank you. Is that like a red flag in your mind at this point? Like if we see a veteran out there holding out, holding in, not working for multiple weeks here,

like how concerned should we be about the soft tissue injuries? Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, Darren Waller, I mean, that was the hamstring that would never, never heal. I mean, you have some athletes like LeBron James and Tom Brady, who just maintain this insane level of fitness forever. And then you have athletes that have injuries that just go on indefinitely. And obviously, as a fantasy person, you lose complete faith in them. I mean, you just, you can't play them and you don't want to draft them.

And so, yeah, no, I mean, absolutely, Walter scares me. That was the, that was, you wonder, well, I mean, and look at Michael Thomas. I mean, with the ankle that's been, had him out for two years. So I'm going to do one more because I know you were a little frustrated. I had the great Lidanean Tomlinson and my friend on my show a couple of weeks ago. And I'm like, LT, when you had that huge year in 06, you were like, it was like you were like 27, 28. and you had carried a massive workload for five years. If it were today, I'd be bailing on your ass.

He started laughing. He's like, yeah, you're right. But LT had the most touchdowns in the history of the world that year. But, you know, Christian McCaffrey is still a top five pick in redraft season long leagues, Dr. Mark Addox, orthopedic surgeon, Harvard University, Super Bowl champion. Are you taking CMC in the top five? Yes. Okay. Wow.

Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, the only thing that makes me nervous is, you know, who's going to be behind center, right? Under center. I mean, sure. Because if we don't have anybody, they can throw the ball under center, then we're going to be in big trouble. But as long as whoever is under center can throw the ball. You're not worried about his body, you know, breaking down, re-breaking down.

Maybe he's turned some sort of corner. you know, who knows? Or maybe it was all just a fluke, those previous injuries. Yeah, no. But, I mean, last year I thought he held up well. He did. No. Yeah, no.

But yeah, no, it was scary. The last couple of years with the Panthers, it was like he just couldn't stay on the field. It was one thing. But it was kind of fluky because they were, every injury was different. Right. Well, I know you weren't touching his ass in DFS those years. I'll tell you that. They charged me too much.

The price is true. It's like you're taking. on all kinds of risk paying a king's ransom for this dude. He twigs a hemmy in the first quarter. Well, Doc, this has been great. This is one of the best broadcasts we've done here. You're professional.

I'm going to end the recording now. I don't know if we'll still be able to talk, but I look forward to doing this all year. The great Dr. Mark Adix here. Stay tuned for more and stay subscribed. FantasyPoint.com, YouTube channel, like that.

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