Fantasy Football Daily - JJ Zachariason’s Fantasy Trade Targets: Players to WIN Your League! | Fantasy 2025

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Fantasy Football Daily on the Fantasy Points Podcast Network. I'm Theo Greminger, joined today by JJ Zacharisen. We're talking about players you need to trade for that can help you win your fantasy championship. We're going to talk about a number of players rising up the fantasy ranks and players that could really affect fantasy leagues this season. JJ, we've got to dive into it right off the top. I think the story over here on a bunch of my podcast has ended up being talking about Rico Dowdle. I know you've been talking about him at length. Dowdell now has three games with 28 plus PPR points on the season.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Very, very significant. I've likened him to this year's version of 2024 second half Josh Jacobs. Scott Barrett is all over Rico Duttle as well. We're very bullish on him. Where are you at? Do you think that this continues to run purer with Dowdell putting up huge RB1 weeks? Do you have any apprehension about the situation? Your thoughts?
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yeah, look, for my sake, my bag's sake, I hope so. Because, you know, there was a trend that I was really in on, through some research this off season, where I looked at different subsets of running backs, so earlier on running backs, middle round running backs, middle round running backs, and middle round running backs, which I defined as RB 19 to RB 42,
Starting point is 00:01:27 one of the things that really stood out was that middle round running backs who had poor previous season yards per out run rates. They had a really bad hit rate the following year. And I'm talking like a really bad yards per out run rate. Like definitely sub one. But if it was like sub. 0.7 yards per out run, that was a big red flag for that running back. And Chuba Hubbard was well below that mark.
Starting point is 00:01:49 He had the worst yards per out run rate of any middle round running back in drafts this year. And it's not so much that I think that Hubbard is a bad early down player. It's more so that when you don't have that piece to your game, whether it be the receiving side or just the efficiency side, It's just another piece of the puzzle telling us that maybe Chuba Hubbard isn't or wasn't as good of a player as some made him out to be. Right. And so that story that I told myself is like, okay, but then we have Rico Dowdle who looked good. And then you can buy into him a little bit and say, okay, if we don't like Chuba, then we're going to like Rico a little, you know, a decent bit. But in no way did I ever think that Rico Dowdell in the three games where he sees a 60% running back rush air scores at least 28. PPR points in those three games, right?
Starting point is 00:02:37 Like, in no way. But I'm with you. Like what we see right now, Carolina, super, super run heavy team, like when, when, uh, adjusted for, uh,
Starting point is 00:02:47 for, uh, game situation, right? Like minus 13%, uh, in recent weeks, password over expected.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Um, you know, they have a good offensive line where they can run block well. And so I think doubtle is taking advantage of that. And then again, you look at Dave Canales in his history and sort of what he probably generally likes is just the versatility of a player who can who can play all three downs and dowdell at least has that as a pass catcher more than chuba hubbard did and so you combine all that and
Starting point is 00:03:16 i'm not surprised at he like is getting more work in the offense like i if you were to tell me at the end of the year that that doubt will be you know at the beginning of the season at the end of the year then that doubt will be the one a to chuba being one b i wouldn't be that surprised by that what i am surprised by is just the dominance but i think you're right like down the stretch i haven't ranked right now as a low end RB1. Like, I don't know how you really deny that given his usage and his expected fantasy points that he's seen. And like even last week, depending on the source, you know, his expected fantasy points, like he outpaced it last week. Like he played better than what was expected. But his expected fantasy points was still well over 20 ppr points, you know, so I just,
Starting point is 00:03:54 I think that he could easily just, or he is sort of that dude for the second half of the season. Yeah. And I think when you also factor in the history we have now three straight seasons of Dave Canales being this R.B. Whisperer coaxing like huge ADP production out of like three straight backs. It's also the volume we've seen all of these guys handle Rashad White in 2023, Chuba Hubbard last year, and now RICO Dowd this season. I think Dowdell's second half of the year is going to be better than even what we saw from White. And he was like a top six score at the position. Chuba was like a borderline RB1, RB2 last year. Just sort of, you mentioned low end RB1, just sort of, you mentioned low end RB1, just sort of how aggressively would you be going after him right now.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I'll just give you a head-to-head rest of season. Are you offering Kyron Williams plus for Rico Dattle? Yeah, I mean, my rankings right now, I'm looking over to the side because I have my rankings up, my rest of season rankings up. But Rico, to me, I have ahead of Kyron Williams. So hypothetically, yes, if I had Kyron Williams, I'd have to offer a little bit more to get to Rico. But I, you know, I don't know if, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:04 this is one of those players where it's tough to really read the market because I feel like if you think about the tiers of different fantasy leagues, you have a very casual league, which will look at production and recency bias a lot. And they'll say, Rico Dottle is amazing, you know, because he's doing what he's doing right now. And then you get sort of like, it's almost like that one meme where, you know, you have the graph and it starts out and someone's just being like a mouth breather and not very smart. And they're just like, yeah, Rico Dottle's great. And then you think about it a little bit more and you're like, you're like talking yourself out of Rico Duttle because you know the
Starting point is 00:05:34 history of Dowdle and stuff. And then finally you get to like the expert and the experts like, Rico Dowdell's great. He has the exact same take as as the mouth breather does. And so I kind of feel that way about Dowdle where like if you have a moderately competitive league, I bet the Dowdle manager like you might be able to to see them doubt his, his positioning right now and like where what he looks like rest of season and such. But you know, realistically like I, this is going to sound like a back patting moment,
Starting point is 00:06:01 but it's not. This is just, you know, I get plenty of stuff wrong too. But like last week was the week to buy RICO Dowell, you know, like, or even a couple weeks ago, like whenever Chuba was coming back. Now you're buying him super high because he's coming off a really good game. And so it's tough to, you know, like really be aggressive in doing that. But if you're looking rest of season, I'm definitely RICO over Kairn, rest of season, especially with, with Blake Horme, you know, stealing more and more work from Kairan and not allowing Kairn to have the same kind of ceiling that we've seen in the past. Yeah, I look at players like Kiron Williams. I look at players like Nico Collins. look at sort of name brand players that we were enthusiastic about heading into the season.
Starting point is 00:06:38 There's a lot of, I think fantasy managers in general are getting smarter. There's more good and reputable sources of information out there. Players are more adept to looking at things like analytics. And I think that like years ago, we might have been able to steal Rico Dowdell in some leagues. I think it's harder now. But I do think there's something to be said with there's going to be managers who say, this is Rico Dowdell. The floor could fall out from under him any week here.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I want to cash in. So I do think it's worth buying high here. I want to sort of talk to you about trade strategy in general. We're going to talk about a couple more players that I know you've signaled out as potential buys. But just the way you approach trades in fantasy, the ways you've approached successful trades over the years, Scott Barrett's talked about power law players here a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:29 We do School of Scott together. You've been on School of Scott a couple of times. Scott's always talking about sort of like these excessively aggressive two for one trades, some three for two type moves. And these can be a little polarizing. Every time we sort of share that, there's a bunch of people in like the YouTube comments will say, you know, not in my league, bro. I'm doing the opposite.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I'm cashing in on some of these guys. And I've had great success. Where are you at with this approach? Are you a take the value of the package or are you looking to consolidate as much as possible? and maybe any other trade tips you want to give fantasy managers for executing a trade now with a few weeks to go till the trade deadline in most fantasy leagues. I'm trying to consolidate as much as I possibly can.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I mean, honestly, and you can't just blanket this, right, and just say like no matter what, but a two for one trade, 95% or more of the time I'm taking the one, right? And the logic around this is when you're doing that trade, you have to think about what's out there on the waiver wire and how replaceable is that player that you're giving up, especially if you're able to do a two for one and one of the players on your bench,
Starting point is 00:08:35 then it's a very easy, you're upgrading your starting lineup. And to me, while you draft in your actual, you know, in August or whenever you're drafting, when you draft, of course, you're drafting, you want to get as many bench assets as you can that are going to hit and gain value, right? But once the season starts,
Starting point is 00:08:51 you're trying to maximize your starting lineup as much as possible. Early on in the season, we have way less information than we do now. right now we we we have a general idea of of the veterans in the league the guys who have kind of been around and we know what they're about we know which ones have hit which ones haven't which ones have question marks you know you just mentioned kairn williams and nico collins like we have data now as to how the rams backfield is being split we have data now as to how bad that offensive line in houston actually is and so because we have that information you know
Starting point is 00:09:23 we we early on in the season we're looking at flyers and we're trying to find plays players that could maybe break out that are sitting on our bench. We don't need to worry about that nearly as much anymore. Our outlook and strategy with our fantasy teams is now about, okay, where are you at in the standings? Are you three and six? Are you six and three? Are you, you know, eight and one, whatever you are.
Starting point is 00:09:42 If you're in a good position, you should be playing more for the playoffs, thinking about maybe if you have Kyron to make sure you have Blake Horm as a handcuff. But if you're a three-win team, you need to invite more variance under your squad, where if you don't have Kyron Williams, get Blake Corum, right? Like get a player who becomes that RB1. You could argue this for any team, but get that player who becomes that RB1 and don't play for safety. Like, do not handcuff your own running backs if you're a three-win team right now
Starting point is 00:10:10 because you're needing to invite that variance. And so I say all of that because all of that matters when you go into a trade. Now, when I go in and I trade, I'm looking at teams right now that are in sort of a vulnerable position. know, they're lower in the standings and they're going to be more willing to probably get a deal done because they need to do something with their team. But also, the number one pet peeve that I have is when people say, what should I give up for this player?
Starting point is 00:10:40 Or the opposite, I have this player. What should I get for this player? Right. I have Kyron Williams, who should I trade for? And the answer to that is look at teams across your league and find which teams need a running back, right? that it's no different than literally anything else in sales right where you're trying to give a need to someone else where you can be mutually beneficial and find that that common ground and do a trade
Starting point is 00:11:04 that way because both teams should win in the end like that's what trading is all about and that's why i hate same position for same position trades you know if someone's like oh i want to swap kairn williams for rico doughto well someone's going to lose that trade right because one of those players is going to be better than the other player but realistically if you add another player to the mix. You know, if you, if it's a lower wide receiver, or if it's a wide receiver for a running back and you're helping both teams, that's the way you should be approaching that stuff. But, you know, this time of year, I do think that that when you're trading, you have to think about where your team is just generally at within the positioning and whether you should be
Starting point is 00:11:40 looking at the playoffs, whether you shouldn't be. And that's what I try to kind of walk through and talk through in like that 15 transactions article and podcast each and every week. Yeah, I love a number of the points you just made. I think that the handcuff strategy, that's one that you're continually hammering home and one that I very much agree with. If I like my team this time of year, I want to be, I want to handcuff the backs that are most important to me. Even if it means I have to sort of be aggressive, if I have Bejan Robinson, I want Tyler Algier, etc. I think that's a great way of going about things if the playoffs are in my sights. I think another low-key sort of edge that's out there in redraft leagues is finding fantasy managers that are a little bit more desperate for wins and taking players that are on the buy week currently.
Starting point is 00:12:31 A lot of times you can get 80 cents, 90 cents on the dollar, even on some very type elite type assets because these fantasy managers know that I really need to get this win in week 10. I've got to play catch up here. maybe I'm a losing record, maybe I'm in the eight seed right now. Your thoughts on that. Yeah, no, 100%. I try to talk about that. You know, even when I give recommendations, it's like, just be aware that there's a buy week. But when there's a buy week, you can often get players for cheaper.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Same deal if there's like a short term injury, which we'll get to in a little bit with some of these players that we're going to talk about. But you can take advantage of those like one week things where if you're in a good position, then go after that player because you know that you can afford to take that hit in that given week. and to what you were alluding to with what Scott believes in, and I believe 100% as well, don't overstate a player that's on your bench or even your starting lineup in a flex spot that's just like a little bit above average or even just replacement level, right?
Starting point is 00:13:29 Like those are the players that we should not care that much about in fantasy football. And it's really hard, I think, for the fantasy manager to wrap their head around that because when you tell them that they're so concerned with floor outcomes and not ceiling outcomes that that they'll push back. You know, like a good example of this is that I wasn't, look, it could end up being an L still, but this is just from a, this is me just talking process, right?
Starting point is 00:13:52 There were two middle round wide receivers that, I mean, there were many of them. Like, I didn't like Jerry Judy to, but, but there were two middle round wide receivers that, that didn't, that I didn't, that I was underweight on this year and I got the most pushback for, okay? Those two guys were Cortland Sutton and Zay Flowers.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Now, Zay, I'm more concerned about being, being underway on because I think that he could, you know, I even had them as a buy a couple weeks ago. But the reason why I had them as players that I wasn't going to aggressively target, like they were fine. If I were to rate them as a 10 out of 10 if I was aggressively fading, it would be like a five, right? It was just kind of in the middle.
Starting point is 00:14:28 But the reason I had them is because they're players that have proven to us that they don't have like monster, monster ceilings, like season long ceilings, right? Zay's not used that much in the red zone. We know that. And Cortland Sutton, we've seen now, is just a roller coaster. Like it's just a, it's inconsistent play and he's just not been that dude, you know, throughout his career. And so, and look, I'm not saying that this is a W or an L. I'm saying this strictly from a philosophical process oriented standpoint. I'd rather take a chance on the higher
Starting point is 00:14:58 upside type players. But when you say those things, people are like, but those guys are going to give me something. Yes, they're going to give you something. They'll give you a better floor than Teteroa McMillan would, you know, around the same range or or George Pickens even potentially or some of the other players that were in that or jamo right jamo win the opposite direction right they definitely give you a better than that but floor doesn't win fantasy championships it's usually sealing now there are instances where i'll buy into floor a little bit when the sentiment is really really low and where i think there could still be a ceiling and we'll talk about a player like that in a second as well but i do think that one of the key things that people just need to wrap their head around in my opinion of course is this idea that like they need a
Starting point is 00:15:40 floor and consistency and all that from the no you just need league winners you need there's like 15 to 20 dudes in fantasy football right now that are crushing fantasy football and if you have one or two of them or three of them on your team you're good you know if you drafted christian mcalfrey and then you got jonathan taylor you're feeling great right now it doesn't matter what the rest of your roster looks like you know and because you can get guys off the waiver wire and you can figure out what to do with those guys later and that just plays into trading just trade away some of those guys in order to get the guys that you know this time of year are just completely smashing. Yeah, and it's also the ability to put up consecutive spike weeks.
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Starting point is 00:17:42 50% off Ancestry DNA only until December 2nd. Visit Ancestry.ca for more details. Terms apply. Welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily. Theo Greminger with J.J. Zacharisen. JJ, let everybody know. You mentioned the transactions. Listen, I love getting your emails. You know, your emails are very, they're very clear. You sort of summarize your podcast very, very well.
Starting point is 00:18:06 The 15 transactions, you also do the data dump. let it bring know sort of how they can find that and what else you have going on this time of year. Yeah, the podcast is definitely where things are kind of driven. It's all on late round.com. You can sign up for the newsletter absolutely free, like you said, send out a data dump, do the 15 transactions stuff on there. And then in the off season, like I mentioned that yards per out run research, like I had an article sent out, you know, over the off season through that newsletter that talked about that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:18:34 It's a pretty nerdy, nerdy newsletter. But, you know, hopefully us fantasy nerds, you know, anyone listening to this, you're a pretty hardcore nerd. So you'll probably dig it. Yeah, we, we love getting it. Um, shout out to all the podcasts you've done over the, over the years, too, just absolute fire. Uh, highly recommend your work. And one thing that, like, I think it's becoming more and more synonymous with you. I mean, the whole, you got the best ball thing going on. Of course, the redraft thing going on. But it's the, the dynasty players, I think really are starting to appreciate the work that you put in every single offseason on evaluating not only the
Starting point is 00:19:09 rookie class, but you also add in the way that you examine the previous year's rookies and how you view them heading into year two. Just sort of like a how the sausage is made thing, let everybody know about that. And when do you see your process start? Because you cover so many players and so much information seemingly in a very short period of time between the end of the season and when you actually drop the guide. Yeah. So the late round prospect guide where like you said, I look at every running back and wide receiver that's at the combine. So usually that's like 80 plus players or so. And I'll do a profile right up on every single guy.
Starting point is 00:19:45 It's all pretty data oriented. I mean, I watch them all too, but I'm coming at it from a model. Like I built a prospect model that helps predict how well these guys are going to perform during their first three years in the NFL. And then I write about that. And then there's the year two model that you were alluding to where I look at the previous year rookie class. And I try to see how well these guys are going to do in year two and year three in their NFL career based on their prospect scores and how they looked coming into the league,
Starting point is 00:20:12 as well as how they performed in year one. Right. So that's still, I mean, if you're interested in that, that's still available on late round.com for this past year. You know, don't get, don't get too upset if I miss stuff because obviously prospecting is just a very, very difficult thing to do. And there's definitely been some, some misses, you know, cross your fingers that we get something from Bayshalt-Tooten at some point. But yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a really fun thing for that that I've been able to like do over the last, you know, handful of years, especially since going out of my own with late round fantasy football over the last four years. It's just been, you know, like, like the prospecting stuff has become sort of like a central part of, of what I
Starting point is 00:20:51 offer. Yeah. And a lot of listeners to Dynasty Life have heard you talk about the prospects on there. I'm sure we'll do that again this spring. One player who I know will end up kind of talking about 2026 ceiling with that sure to be a redraft riser over the summer is a mecca egbuka. Egbuka had was started off the season about as hot as a rookie wide receiver not named like Pukunakua ever did. Egbuka started the year just on fire, put up so many strong spike weeks. He had a wide receiver one overall week in week five, had a wide receiver four overall week in week one.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But the last few games have not been. kind to Egbuka fantasy managers. He's failed to hit double digit scoring weeks in any of the last three games. It's led to sort of a victory lapping from like the Egbuka faders and haters on X. I'm kind of on the opposite. I view him as a player that we should be buying for the second half of the year. Dealt with that hamstring scare. Maybe that slowed him down in week six against San Francisco. Sort of your thoughts here, JJ, like where are we at on Igbuka? Should you be buying or selling Egbuka? Yeah, look, whenever there's a,
Starting point is 00:22:06 a random difference in production, right? Like, you could do the same thing and go through the same process with Roma Dunzee right now and figure out why. And that's what I try to do. I think that's what any, any fantasy analyst needs to do. With Igbuka, the story to me is that in week six, he had a poor outing, but he hurt his hamstring, right?
Starting point is 00:22:23 That's why he didn't play the second half of that game. We thought that he was going to be out for at least a couple weeks after that hamstring injury. He comes back in week seven. That was that game against Detroit. And if you remember, the first part of that game, he wasn't out there on every snap. Like he wasn't running routes on every dropback to start that game against Detroit.
Starting point is 00:22:41 He only started to because Mike Evans got hurt in that game. That was the collarbone game. And so then they're like, well, look at what we got a wide receiver right now. We got to throw a Meccaabuka out there and let him do his thing. And he still, like, he didn't have that much production. The offense in general didn't have that much production. But he still had a 24% target share despite coming off an injury, not practicing all week as a rookie, right?
Starting point is 00:23:03 And then week eight where he gets full practices in, he's finally seemingly back, they play New Orleans. And once again, the offense just couldn't get things going. Like the offense itself has not been that strong over the last couple of weeks, last few weeks.
Starting point is 00:23:17 And that obviously is going to trickle down to the rest of the players within that offense. You know, Baker Mayfield had consistently over the last year, had a touchdown plus in every single game. And now I think he has one passing touchdown over his last two, which is just something that we just don't see from Baker within the system.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I think Baker's been a little bit banged up. I mean, you watch him and you're like, yeah, he's, he's definitely not feeling 100%. It's just one of those things where it's like, you don't, you don't necessarily like take the, your star quarterback out based on these like bumps and bruises, but there's definitely a lot of that going on with Baker. And so I think that you can look at the hamstring stuff and say, that's a key reason why Abuka didn't have the numbers that he did. And then like I said, against New Orleans, he had a 37 and a half percent target
Starting point is 00:24:01 share. You know, his, his usage hype, like technically has been better over the last three weeks and it was earlier in the season. So if you were hype about what he was doing earlier on in the year, he should be even more hype right now because he's the same player. He has more, he's more opportunity with with now we know Mike Evans is going to be out for a while. Chris Godwin now probably not back until early December they're saying. And so to me, I'm going to buy into what I think is a really good talent. The prospect model really liked him. I love them entering the season. And I'm going to, I'm going to buy into that more. Like I, it's, it's, he's, he's, he's, He's a good player in a good situation, and I don't want to let that go.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah, and I think there's also something to be said that smart teams, smart offenses, get it right, and there's self-scouting and evaluation coming out of the byweeks. Usually we see a little bit better win rate for certain teams coming off of their by week. This is a big matchup for Tampa Bay. And when I agree with you, when you look at like the underlying metrics for Egbuka, 21 targets over his last two weeks, we look at how the season started. we can end up seeing a number of these spike weeks sort of occurring. It might even start this week against New England.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I think he's a really good quote unquote by low. I also think if you're a dynasty manager listening to this, he's still steamed up, but I feel like there's a chance that he gains a little bit of value over the course of the season. I think when we're talking about him, you know, next July, next August, we're going to be talking about Igbuka as a second round player in 2026 redraft leagues fairly easily,
Starting point is 00:25:27 based on what I'm expecting over the second half. of the year. One other player that we saw come back from a hiatus was injured for a little bit. Aaron Jones, this is a player that you've written up as a buy. When it comes to Jones, like doesn't look like a guy coming off an injury. The juice is there. And then he took the shoulder like AC joint thing. Sounds like he's going to play. It's a little bit up in the air for this week. But it sounds like if he does in fact miss, it would be something very, very short-term. the Jordan Mason dream sort of looks like it's dead, barring a Jones injury. What's your enthusiasm level for acquiring Jones for the second half of the season
Starting point is 00:26:11 and then heading into the fantasy playoffs? My enthusiasm is definitely higher than the market, right? And that's what this always comes down to is how, what's the general sentiment with Aaron Jones? And I guarantee you that whoever has Aaron Jones in your league is not like jumping for joy that they have Aaron Jones because he hasn't done much this year, right? But before that injury, this is from Dway McFarland of Fantasy Life, he had tweeted about this. But before the injury, Jones had a 77% snap share, 68% route share, 13% target share.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Like he was a borderline bell cow for Minnesota before he went down with that shoulder injury. Jordan Mason, for whatever reason, you know, I do rest of season rankings and such for, for, you know, late round. And I always, after I finish my rankings, I like to compare where other analysts have their rest season rankings, just because then I can say, oh, I'm higher than this guy than the quote unquote market. Maybe this is a buy candidate. People are still ranking Jordan Mason ahead of Aaron Jones rest of season. And it, and it blows my mind. Jordan Mason in games with Aaron Jones this year, 5.2 PPR points per game.
Starting point is 00:27:14 He's been completely worthless. He had his best game has been eight and a half PPR points because Aaron Jones is the past catcher in that offense. And so because the sentiment is the way that it is with that Minnesota backfield, and by that I'm saying, I don't think many people care for the backfield. I don't think that they care for Aaron Jones. There's a chance of people still think that Jordan Mason's a better fantasy asset than Aaron Jones is, even though Aaron Jones is the clear pass catcher and that's going to be way more valuable for fantasy purposes.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Because sentiment is so low, I look at the Vikings' rest of season schedule. Baltimore, decent matchup. They could be in a negative game script. If Aaron Jones plays, he's going to be on the field a lot, right? Chicago next week, great matchup. Green Bay and Seattle, okay, not great. but then they get Washington, Dallas, the Giants, and then the Lions to finish off the season.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So you get a three-week stretch in there with the commanders, Cowboys Giants. Hard to find a better three-week stretch than that. There's going to be some usable games, I think, for Aaron Jones rest of season, especially if you're in a PPR format, because not only could they hit some negative game scripts and some really fast-paced and high-scoring games,
Starting point is 00:28:19 but also, and that's going to allow him to be on the field. There's just some good, like Chicago and New York, the Giants. I mean, those are some of the two best matchups you can find for running backs in general. So I just, I think that because the sentiment is what it is, I'm going to, I'm going to buy into that and lean into that. Do I think he's going to be an RB1? No. You know, this is one of those instances, like we said earlier, you there's only like 15, 20 players in fantasy that are going to be like massive needle movers. Not every transaction you make can just involve one of those guys. And this is one of those instances where, you know, you're just trying to get a small win to help your fantasy team.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Maybe if your RB2 spots pretty weak. Yeah. And I think when, when you look at it. at Aaron Jones, you've got the fact that he scored 11.8 points in week nine, and maybe people just looking at the total points scored are going to say, you know, this is an expendable type guy. But I think if you look at sort of the discrepancy between him and Mason in week nine, you factor in what JJ talked about with the playoff schedule. And then just the fact that he's going to get those high value touches on top of the carries he's going to get.
Starting point is 00:29:20 the potential with him as a past catcher out of the backfield, I'm with it. I think Aaron Jones is a good buy low right now pretty much in all formats. One other player who's also sort of very under the radar here, and this is a pretty cheap player to buy right now. And you listed as like a caveat. This is not a player you think is going to be like a league altering one, but a player who gives you some running back to utility, and that's Woody Marks. Yeah, look, I think that there was sort of like,
Starting point is 00:29:50 Sometimes in fantasy, we get these like really high expectations after something happens. You had that like Tennessee game with Woody Marks. Then all of a sudden everyone's like he's going to be, he could be like a high end RB2, maybe even a low end RB1. Maybe he's the league winning running back this year. And while I understand that sentiment and I understand like thinking that way and there's obviously always going to be something like that in a player's range of outcomes when they have a game like that, you know, Woody Marks as a prospect was not someone who was amazing on the ground, but was a great pass catching back. And that in fantasy football is okay, especially when you're on a team and in an offense that doesn't have that kind of the player, right? Like Nick Chub is not that dude.
Starting point is 00:30:31 But Woody Marks has not been that great on the ground. Like make no mistake. Like I'm not trying to sell this as Marks being even significantly better than Nick Chubb. I don't think that he has been significantly better than Nick Chubb on the ground. But he's seen since that breakout game, a 46% running back rush share per game. So basically a 50-50 split on. the ground with Nick Chubb and a 10% target share within that offense is expected fantasy points depending on where you're looking at it around 13 ppr points per game he's been a point below that
Starting point is 00:31:00 so there is a little bit of favorable regression that would be coming for him and he's also their two minute back uh you know he's played 86% their two minute snaps since week four so any negative game script unlike a Nick Chubb you don't have to worry about that that much for Woody Marks so what would we be looking for with a guy like Marks who's the negative game script back, you know, not not game script dependent. But then also is getting half of the team's running back rushes. Well, it's it's you want a good running back matchup. And then you want a potential like more of a not total negative game script where like they don't even use any of their, their good players like we saw with like the commanders last week.
Starting point is 00:31:37 But you want a semi negative game script where they have to let loose a little bit and throw the ball a little bit more. And if you look at their rest season schedule, they get the jags, not a bad matchup just in general. The Titans, we already saw him destroy them. you know, not a bad matchup, obviously on the ground. The Bills, not a bad rushing matchup, but also negative game script potential. The Colts, another one where negative game script potential, the Chiefs, negative game script potential. The Cardinals just a decent matchup.
Starting point is 00:32:03 The Raiders, a decent matchup. And then the Chargers, which is another negative game script potential. So there's, there's all these games in there. Like, their schedules tough, right? Like, we're talking about the bills, the Colts, the Chiefs, the Chargers. Those are not Nick Chub games. Those are Woody Mark's games. So the way I see this, again, going back to what I said with Aaron Jones,
Starting point is 00:32:20 general fantasy sentiment, no one really cares about Woody Marks right now because he's not doing that much. And he'll have these games where he only scores like three or four points. But to me, in a PPR format, I think there's going to be somewhat of a baseline as we move down through the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:32:34 He's a rookie. Maybe he gets a little bit better. Maybe he gets a little bit more reps as well. There's at least a little bit more upside. I don't think he's going to be a bell cow. But again, some of us out there, including myself, are struggling pretty rough in some leagues
Starting point is 00:32:46 in our RB2 spot. Right? We punted it. And we didn't hit. on it and now we're like, what am I doing at RB2? He's at least something that we can throw in there and he could give us some points. Yeah, I'm still waiting for my guy, Omarian Hampton, to come off of a couple of IRs here, JJ. What's interesting is we talked about two rookies here. And you mentioned, you know, sort of getting a little more work over the second half of the season. This is something that
Starting point is 00:33:09 Scott and Ryan Heath wrote about in the Everything report, sort of how we see it season after season, where we're going to see some of these rookies that get ramped up down the stretch. It's not always the obvious guys. I think Mark sort of falls into that one. Anybody who experienced like Jill and McMillan last year over the second half of the year, I think that's a good example. But we see it almost every year. Talk about that a little. Yeah. I mean, the research I've done for sure has shown that especially, you know, when it comes to like earlier round players, you're not going to necessarily see the discrepancy as much. I've seen a lot of people like in my discord and stuff being like, oh, I want a mecha Buka because he's going to break out during the second half of the
Starting point is 00:33:50 rookies do better. Well, Buka was amazing in the first half. So let's not assume that his numbers get even better in the second half, right? Because he was a good player. He already saw his opportunity. He's already getting those reps. It's more so the day three guys that you should be interested in. You know, Amun Rass St. Brown is probably the most famous one that was able to come through down the stretch for Detroit during his rookie season. Then obviously it extended. Now he's one of the best wide outs in the league. But it's, it's yeah. Like we see a very, very big jump in points per game from first half to second half with more of the day three guys who had to climb their depth chart a little bit you know they weren't obvious starters for their team right away and once they get their time to shine
Starting point is 00:34:29 they're shining and they're good uh and also some players like they're all human right like some players just need more reps to to to get used to the game and then maybe show out so uh rookies generally speaking it's not all rookies but generally speaking they do do better in the second half yeah so we just talked about rookies let's take an opportunity to talk about a player who's almost 32 years old that I think could be the key to your fantasy success over the second half of the year right after this. Ontario, the weight is over. The gold standard of online casinos has arrived.
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Starting point is 00:36:26 really ramp up and look very positive. We've had three straight weeks now with 19 or more carries, and three straight weeks where he's finished as RB 14 or better. Lamar Jackson, of course, is back, and the Ravens control their own destiny here with four out of their next six games against AFC North opponents. I think this is the time to go by the big dog in fantasy. Are you on this as well?
Starting point is 00:36:53 Yeah. I think that you should at least feel bullish more than bearish with Derek Henry. I think the key here, not only do we know that he's performed better, you know, in winter and in December, you know, November and December months or what have you. But I think what's really, really key here. And again, Lamar Jackson's back. So that's the biggest key, right? But look at their schedule. This week, they get Minnesota where they're role.
Starting point is 00:37:17 road favorites. Okay. And so we're sitting here and we're like, okay, maybe not the greatest matchup on Earth, but it hasn't been that bad this year. And then, but they're favorites. So, so there's not really the possibility as strongly of a negative game script. And that's always the fear with Derek Henry because they use Justice Hill in those negative scripts.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Like they just completely, Derek Henry will be out snapped by Justice Hill in some of those games. And then you look at their upcoming schedule, Cleveland after this week, right? They're going to be massive favorites next week. the Jets after that, the Bengals, the Steelers, which is always a close game. So I think Derek Henry will be on the field a lot. The Bengals again. And then it's New England,
Starting point is 00:37:56 but that's in Baltimore. And then they get Green Bay, right? So like every game up until maybe the end of the season, maybe, but by that point, I think Baltimore's, their defense is already playing a little bit better. Like by that point,
Starting point is 00:38:10 they might just look like a more cohesive team. Yeah. Like Derek Henry's probably going to be on the field a whole lot. versus what we've seen at times to start the season because they didn't have Lamar Jackson creating those positive game scripts for them. Yeah, I think there's a chance that Henry could end up being like a top five running back rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:38:28 He's going to have to run pure on the touchdown scoring. But like you said, the schedule sort of would support that one. And I do think there's some Henry managers. They're a little bit frustrated. This is a player that I think you can go out and buy. And it's also sort of your yearly reminder if you're a dynasty manager listening to this, go and get the big dog for the stretch run if his team has a losing record.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And then he's not going to zero next year, JJ. I wonder how long this guy's going to play. I don't know if he can catch like Emmett Smith, but right now he's up there. He's top five in rushing touchdowns for his career. Chance he could run pure and I think catch Marcus Allen this year. So we're going to take a look at trying to get Derek Henry in some of these fantasy trades. Speaking of trades, we just had the NFL trade deadline,
Starting point is 00:39:14 wanted to pick your brain on Jacoby Myers, who is now a Jacksonville Jaguar, and Rashid who's now a Seattle Seahawk. We've seen it where sometimes a trade can lead to big-time fantasy success. We've also seen times where a player like Amari Cooper gets traded to Buffalo, fantasy managers get excited about it, and he does literally nothing. Where would you lean on these two players? Are you interested in acquiring either of them? maybe who are you more bullish on of the two?
Starting point is 00:39:45 Your general thoughts on these two landing spots and these two players' trajectories. Yeah, you know, I think that it's not a surprise that those were the two wideouts that got moved, or at least important wideouts that got moved at the deadline, just given their contract situations and what the teams were, you know, how the teams are performing. And I think that the surprise was more so who the teams were that got them. But when you dig into it, it makes a lot of sense, in my opinion. I think that Jacoby Myers has sort of been typecasted as a sloc guy, but he's been fine on the perimeter.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Even last year, I think he had a 1.9 yards per route run rate when running on the outside, which is strong. And there were times too in Vegas where he wasn't a primary slot guy, like when they were in 11 personnel and such. I know that he plays that role more this year. He has been playing that role more this year. But that's not been necessarily only Jacobi Myers' game.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And so what Myers does for Jacksonville is it just gives them more versatility. Brian Thomas, who's already banged up. He's out this week. And then Parker Washington, you know, he's all, Parker Washington has played in the slot, had had a 50% or better slot share in two games this year. And in both those games, he had like a 27 and 28% target share. So this offense, as we know from last year with Chris Godwin with Liam Cohen,
Starting point is 00:41:00 this offense loves to look at the middle of the field and loves to get the ball out quick and let that, like, get like, scheme guys open and, and work that slot. And so what I think they're doing here is they're saying, you know, we don't mind Parker Washington and he can play that role. But we want versatility at the line because guys aren't, you know, when we say slot and not slot, it doesn't mean 100% in the slot and 100% on the perimeter. You know, guys move around the line all the time. This gives them a lot more flexibility to get a guy who can play inside out while allowing Parker Washington to still play that more natural role for him, which is the slot. So do I want to go out and aggressively buy Jacoby Myers? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:41:39 but I don't think he's like a I think it was an upgrade for him based on where he was right I think now I think in my my rest of season rankings he's around like wide receiver 43 or something like that so you're looking at like a wide receiver four type player um you know mid range um and you know that's baking in the fact that maybe this does go really well for him because I do think he's a good player now Rashid Shaheed shehied the pairing is just like chef's kiss right like you get Sam Darnold has the highest average depth of target in football. Rashid Shaheed had an 11-ish, 11.3 ADOT this year. But last year with Clint Kubiak, who's obviously in Seattle, last year, Rashichi had an 18.1 average up the targets. You're meshing this big-armed, will throw it down the field player in Sam Darnold, with a player like Shaheed. The biggest problem with Shaheed, from a fantasy perspective,
Starting point is 00:42:29 is the Seahawks are second in the league in their 12 personnel deployment. Only Pittsburgh is running more two tight-end sets than Seattle is. Seattle loves those big bodies, those heavy sets. And so what that means is that you're only getting two wide receivers in the field at once, and we know that one of them is Jackson Smith and Jigba. So the other player is a Cooper Cup. Well, he's a good blocker. Like, you see, he can still play that kind of role for them.
Starting point is 00:42:52 So does that limit Shaheed's overall route volume? You know, I think that we should feel confident that he's going to jump like a Cory Horton type because Chehede can play all three levels better than a Horton can at this point. I'm bullish on Horton long term, but this year I just don't think. It's necessarily going to come to fruition the way that we would want it to. But with Shaheed, you have a player that can play at all three levels. You can stretch the field really well. I think from a real life standpoint, it was a great move for Seattle because he can stretch
Starting point is 00:43:22 the field, maybe even open up some run lanes because their running game has been so bad. And then obviously create big plays on his own and gives them more depth, not have to rely on a player like Tori Horton, who's a day three rookie. But my only fear is that he's not the dude that's going to be on the field a lot. or as much as we want for him to be like a consistent fantasy option, right? Someone who's more boom bust, and those booms could be boom. They could be pretty big game. So I have Shaheed a little bit ahead of Jacoby Myers in my rest of season rankings
Starting point is 00:43:51 just because I like the fit so much. But I am trying to hold myself back and be like, I love the fit, but I just don't know how much what his route share is really going to look like. Yeah, I think I'm very bullish on the Shaheed acquisition, gets reunited with Clint Kubiak. We've already seen it. He's already talked about, I don't think the ramp up
Starting point is 00:44:11 is going to take that long. And I do think that the 11 personnel thing for them, the lack of it, had to do with the personnel that they had out there. And I think that adding Shaheed could potentially open things up. Cooper Cup, when he comes back,
Starting point is 00:44:25 I think could really just be the wide receiver if they choose to go with a little bit more 11. But I'm bullish on Shahid. I think that he gives you that upside. You talked about how Sam Darnold is just so good on those deep passes. And I think this is an offense that we really believe in. I think Kubiak is being like on his way to getting a head coaching job.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And I think we're going to see it over the second half of the year. I also like what I've heard about how they view Shaheed as a long-term answer for them at the wide receiver too. They're saying all the right stuff. I also think that you bring up the running game. I think it's a non-zero chance that we see Shahid on like some jet sweeps, get the ball in his hands, use that elite speed to maybe steal some 10-yard-type runs to help this thing get going. So I'm with you on this one. We got news while recording.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Brian Thomas is set to miss this week's game. So we're going to get a chance to see Jacoby Myers. And JJ, maybe he ends up having a pretty good game. So a lot to talk about next week if that happens. Let's stay in, let's stay with a team on a bye week. You know, a lot of people have talked about, obviously, I'm sure you've talked about at length, just this unbelievable success story with Joe Flacco. Then we talked about the Joe Flacco bump for Jamar Chase.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Jamar Chase on his way to potentially having back-to-back wide receiver one overall seasons. Then this past week, a lot of people are talking about T. Higgins. T. Higgins had the smash week in week nine. Higgins is now averaging like 19 points per game in games Joe Flacco started. But now we've got to talk a little bit about Chase Brown. And I think it's interesting because sometimes these. injuries, we always think about injuries to starters, sort of opening things up for backup running backs,
Starting point is 00:46:08 but sometimes there can be a third down back or a backup running back who maybe has a larger role than some people would look at. Samajai P. Ryan now banged up. Is Chase Brown trending up as a player that we're going to see get back to having like consistent, tremendous weekly volume and usage? Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:29 As long as Samajapirin's out. And it sounds like what, high anchor? for him. Sounds not great. Yeah. Yeah, right. And that's not an easy injury to, to play through and come back from. So, yes, I think that's a huge deal.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Not only that, but Brooks, their rookie is not someone that is an exceptional pass catcher. And so if they're going to be throwing to the running back, it's going to be Chase Brown, just given their depth chart right now. So he's been around like the 45 to. So the way that pass catching our running back just generally funnels and functions is, you know, we look at receptions and targets. and yards, right, as like the baseline. And then from there, we're looking at target share to see what percent of those targets
Starting point is 00:47:09 are going to the running back. And then from there, we're looking at route participation, right? How often is that running back actually being deployed on a dropback? And oftentimes you can spot regression if target share is really high, but route participation rates really low or vice versa, right? For Chase Brown, he's been in like the 45 to 50 percent route share range throughout the season. last week, Theo, he was at 86%.
Starting point is 00:47:34 That is a beyond elite route participation rate for a running back. And so if we get that great schedule for the Bengals rest of season, for the offense to do well, if we get that kind of route share week in and week out, I'm not going to be surprised. And this might sound like a hot take, but from like a PPR standpoint, I'm not going to be surprised if Samajapirin's out
Starting point is 00:47:56 and we get that kind of route participation from Chase Brown, that he's a high-end RB2 in fantasy, given the schedule, given the way that the offense has functioned with Flacco, and given that route participation rate, because those peripherals just lead to amazing fantasy numbers, no matter how bad that offensive line is. Yeah, I love it.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And I think Chase Brown last year was like this high-end RB1 down the stretch. Now the whole narrative has been so negative towards him for the whole season. I think it could be like a narrative shift down the stretch. It's an offense that just prints fantasy points. It's a perfect storm every week with that defense. That defense could be even worse coming out of the by week. They lose Logan Wilson in that trade. And it's just a perfect storm.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Hopefully, you know, we love it. I know I personally do. Shout out to the IDP people out there. But I love these shootout environment type teams. Cincinnati might be the best one, allowing 33 points per game as a team this season. Keep it going, Cincinnati. Let's get some more spike weeks. Let's talk about a couple of players.
Starting point is 00:48:57 who are dark horse candidates to be league winners in the sense that when people talk about the league winner, I don't think these two players are being talked enough about. Certainly, these are not guys that I would say would be the top score or even the number two score at the position. But I want to talk to you about Devon A. Chan and Drake London and sort of the elite usage we've seen from them recently. You talked about this one with Devon A. Chan about how he's had a 20% target share now in four out of five games,
Starting point is 00:49:27 which some people might say, okay, whatever, but this has been an extremely rare feat for running backs this year. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's been 33 instances of it happening
Starting point is 00:49:37 and Devon A-chan has a handful of them or has many of them. He's four in the last five games, so obviously he's seeing these high target shares. There's been, even if you bump that up to 25%, he has 5, 25% target share games dating back to last year.
Starting point is 00:49:53 The only player in fantasy football who has as many as Christian McCaffrey, which happened all this year because they're just peppering him with targets. And no one else has four. So the only other players that have three are Bejan Robinson and Alvin Camara. So Devon A-chan is like Devon A-chan essentially right now is doing what like prime Alvin Camara used to do, right, where he was just getting peppered with looks, seeing crazy target shares. And he would end up as a mid to high end RB1 every year. Right. And obviously it's not happening this year. But yeah, I mean, the the Janu Smith move over the off season was a big deal.
Starting point is 00:50:27 It signaled that there could be more of those like dump off looks and short looks, you know, 2 H.N. You know, obviously Tyreek Hill going down allows the target share distribution to change. And they don't have anyone outside of Jalen Waddell. Darren Waller's on IR. You know,
Starting point is 00:50:43 Nick Westbrook Aquina is not a not anything to worry about. Malik Washington has been horrible. And so it's really the Jalen Waddle and Devon Achan show. And when you have so few options, target share is going to be really high. why A-chan's been able to thrive in fantasy. Yeah, I think A-chan is just in a tremendous spot. It also, it's like the back against the wall for Mike McDaniel.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And it's the consolidation we're seeing where Jalen Waddle and Devon A-chan so much is going to be asked about for these guys. And the fact that they're going to get these very, very predictable target shares, they're both locked in. And I think that there's something to be said for chasing the like truly elite offenses. But sometimes when things present themselves, as being truly consolidated. Those are also great.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Now, Drake London, this was a guy that I was really pounding the table for this past off season. And through the first like three weeks of the year, I was sort of having to defend that a little bit. I know Scott wanted to sort of, you know, ruffle my feathers on that one. But it's been anything. But Drake London right now looks like a dark horse candidate to be the wide receiver one overall for like the rest of the season over the second half of the year. talk about this truly elite usage,
Starting point is 00:51:57 38 PPR points this past week, but it's really been like four straight weeks with double digit targets, and there's no other wide receiver target competition whatsoever in the ATL. Yeah, I mean, Darno Mooney's not up to expectation at all. And I actually thought, like I loved London this year, but I liked Mooney this year too.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And he's just not been able to come through, whether it be due to injury or not. You know, there was a little bit of a shift after the first few games of the season where they were they're using him like a little bit more in the slot. That's one thing that's changed for Drake London. He has about a 35% slot rate over the stretch that we've seen where he's been dominating. It was like 25 to 28% to start the season. But look, the bottom line with Drake London is two things are happening. He's getting pepper with targets. He's a 40% target here per game rate over his last four, which is absolutely absurd.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I don't think that's going to continue to that rate. But yes, it can be very high. But he's also getting down the field more. His first. two games this year, he had a dots of 6.6 and 7.5. He hasn't been below a 10 yard a dot since week two. So you get this combination of, you know, we always talk about average up the target and that we want them to be, want our depth to be higher because there's a larger chance for big plays and big chunk plays and more yardage, et cetera. He's getting down the field and he's getting peppered with targets. Like it's a combination that is yielding this kind of fantasy result. If that continues, yeah, he could easily be a top five, easily top five wide receiver rest of season,
Starting point is 00:53:28 maybe even the top one. But, you know, I don't want to say it's definitely going to continue because some of the numbers are pretty insane. You know, 40% target shares a lot. But yeah, I mean, like I think that like rest of season, we should feel pretty comfortable about him being a top 10 guy. Yeah. And it's very kind of reassuring for me to see Michael Pennix with this three touchdown pass
Starting point is 00:53:48 game on the road in New England when we were sort of theorizing that this is going to be a home versus road splits, maybe an indoor outdoor split. So really fun one this, this week. Do you like the Europe games? I mean, from the standpoint of the work that we, the extra, it's sort of like extra work because I have to update rankings an extra time and all that kind of stuff. No, I don't hate it though. I don't mind, you know, Saturday mornings getting my rankings done and then hopping on the Peloton and watching it, you know, on the bike, you know, doing that. Like it gives me something to, something to enjoy while I'm, you know, moving the legs a little bit.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Shout out Peloton Flex. I have the Peloton treadmill. I think the treadmill is a better investment than the bike, but I know you're a big Peloton bike guy. Yeah, I love it. We're on the East Coast, though. So shout out to you, West Coast people who absolutely loathe it. We do get a fun one this week, Indianapolis, Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:54:40 tons of fantasy relevant players. And Daniel Jones, certainly an interesting one. And Daniel Jones sort of a segue into one of our last questions here. Drake May. And we could talk about a number of quarterbacks here. you're Mr. Late Round quarterback. You've sort of shifted your general approach to it with the way that the rushing quarterbacks have been valued in the market. You've talked about that a lot in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:55:04 But this year we've seen a number of these QB2s who are producing at a very high rate. Justin Herbert, Daniel Jones, certainly the cheapest of them. And then Drake May, who didn't always get drafted as a QB2, but it was like that gray area of guys that were the low-end QB-1s. and the high-end QB-2s. So some drafts you'd see Drake May go off the board as like the QB-10, some drafts he'd be like the QB-15. Drake-May looks unbelievable. Curious your thoughts on him.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And for the dynasty listeners out there, is there an argument by the end of the season if Drake May can continue this level of production that he should be the QB-1 overall and your outlook for him and redraft over the rest of the season? I think there's an argument that he could be. I would have a hard time probably just assuming that the two other guys, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, keep it up. I'd have a hard time putting May ahead unless May just completely smashes the rest of season.
Starting point is 00:56:04 But I mean, I have him right now as QB3 in Dynasty. You know, I think he's, I think he's right after those two. Part of that is Jaden Daniels injury, right? It's a lot easier to make that claim now after the Daniels stuff happened. But yeah, man, I mean, I think the one thing that is also kind of underrated about what's going on with May, is that the supporting cast is just fine. You know, it's not like he's doing this with Jamar Chase and T. Higgins and Jordan Addison
Starting point is 00:56:31 and Justin Jefferson and T.J. Hawkinson. I mean, Hunter Henry's above average tight end. Stefan Diggs is over 30 and is good. I still think that he's got some in him, but he's not a clear alpha. He's made Kashan Bouti super relevant because his deep ball's been so strong. We'll see what they have.
Starting point is 00:56:51 and, you know, Kyle Williams, potentially this weekend, which I'm a little bit excited about. But it's not like he's had these, like, amazing weapons and this amazing offensive line playing in front of him. And that, to me, is what's most impressive about what Drake May is doing. The rushing productions there, which we need for them to be, like, high-end, you know, Dynasty QB-1s. So, yeah, I mean, like, he was my go-to guy this year, like most people, you know, most analysts and stuff. Like, he was my go-to later-round quarterback. Got him a lot because the, you know, it's, when stuff like this happens, it's pretty easy to latch onto a quarterback and say,
Starting point is 00:57:25 okay, you're going to run the ball and you were pretty good last year. And there were numbers that suggest that you're a good player and you're a second year guy. And we should buy into second year players in fantasy. So let's do this. And, you know, he's obviously just balled out. And I think he deserves to be, you know, in that top three discussion right now in Dynasty. Yeah, I'm there. I think he's my QB3.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I think that we sometimes try to like push guys way ahead. Certainly we did that with Jaden Daniels last year. C.J. Stroud was sort of the egregious one there a couple years ago, people really pushing him up. But Drake May, when you factor in the youth, and I've made that same argument, like, if we went down the line in the league and remove the quarterback and just looked at skill position talent at tight end and wide receiver, we'd have New England pretty low. And the one player that I know I was super excited about this past off season, Trayvion Henderson, has had like one decent game so far. So hey, maybe Henderson can get it going over the second half of the season, but Drake May is going to put up the numbers. Where are you out on Henderson this week, JJ? Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:58:29 This has been the bane of my existence. You know, I did the fantasy footballers MVP show this year. And I was down to three players. And I say this, I was even talking to my co-o, David Kitchen. I'm like, I'm down to three guys. A mecic Buka, Drake May, and Trayvion Henderson. Guess which one I picked for the MVP show. It was, it was Trayvion.
Starting point is 00:58:48 So I was I was high on Trayvion. I think I got a little bit too. I inflated his ability a little bit too much in August and stuff. And it just caught me at the wrong time whenever I called him out as the fantasy MVP this year. I think a couple of things are happening though. I think that on one end, Trayvon's not playing as well as I thought he would be, you know, play and perform. But on the other end, New England has used him incorrectly for most of the season, where his game is getting him in space,
Starting point is 00:59:19 let him be a good pass catcher, and let him do work after the catch. And we saw that last week a little bit. He had a 21% target share. He made some good plays. But there have been many games this year where they just continuously run them up the gut between the tackles.
Starting point is 00:59:33 That's not his game. Go look at what he did in college. He always had a backfield, you know, he's always in a tandem. He wasn't this like massive, massive bell cow. And the main reason for that is, is he's a great pass catching back. He was supposed to be good in past pro and he has not been, which is also a huge problem for him.
Starting point is 00:59:51 But I think it's just this combination of him not playing quite as well as we thought. And, you know, maybe just some of it could even just be between the ears and him not feeling super comfortable. But I thought he looked pretty good last week. You know, I thought that last week was a good, solid foundational game for him. And then hopefully we see more of that this week where they're getting him those dump off, allowing him to do more as a receiver. I was really tilted because I don't know if people watch the game. game or not. But, you know, I try to watch every game every week. And DeMario Douglas scored that
Starting point is 01:00:20 touchdown. And he came out of the backfield to score that touchdown. It was a like, Trayvon Henderson could have easily scored that touchdown on that, on that, on that, uh, route that that DeMario Douglas ran. And so that was a little frustrating. But like, there's instances like that, where you're like, there's, there's going to be opportunity for Trayvion to score some more fantasy points, especially with this Ramandre Stevenson injury that he's dealing with right now. So, you know, I'm, I'm bullish, but I'm trying to temper expectations based on how excited I was at the start of the season. Never take L's, JJ. Just wait and your takes are eventually become correct. I'm still going to hold out optimism here. I think this could be like last week was the
Starting point is 01:00:55 week that all the DFS guys were starting Trayvion. I think it's going to end up being maybe this week. The Tampa Bay New England game really sort of rooting for that game to be very, very fantasy friendly. This could be the Henderson week. JJ, we got to get you out of here. Let me know once again what you have going on where people could find your work. Yeah, man. Podcast. pretty much every day of the week. So check that out, Late Round Podcast, and then everything else
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