Fantasy Football Daily - Justin Jefferson, Lamar Jackson | 2026 Fantasy Football Bounceback Values

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're talking 2026 fantasy football bounce back candidates. Theo Greminger, Fantasy Football Daily on the Fantasy Points Podcast Network and Fantasy Points YouTube, joined by Jim Coventry of Roto Wire. Jim is a frequent guest of mine because he's a big time ball knower, and we're going to be breaking it down. Jim, a lot of times we see players who are steamed up in ADP, they have a bad year. Sometimes those players never fully bounce back. Sometimes those players can give you a massive bounceback season. And a lot of times you find a very punitive ADP marketplace where drafters want no part of these guys after they were burned the year before.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Last year was a pretty strong year for some bounce back guys. Travis ETN was like eight points a game in 2024, got up to like 15, over 15 this past year. A huge touchdown score in Liam Cohen's offense. Chris Alave was drafted as. as a low-end wide receiver three bounces back to wide receiver one production. And then the big one, Christian McCaffrey, incredible season after a frustrating one where he missed a lot of time in 2024. So we've got it all out there. Really an interesting time of year because we are starting to get some early ADP data coming in from underdog FFPC.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Obviously, we're pre-super Bowl ADP, but it's still there. So we've some ADP to talk about how are you doing? today, Jim. Doing great. Can't wait to really deep dive into the offseason stuff. It's going to be great. But yeah, real excited to talk football with you today. Yeah, and Jim, I think we talked a little bit off air about maybe a couple of coaching hires, a couple of potential breakout offenses. We'll talk about breakout offenses all throughout the offseason. It's another edge that fantasy managers can have when trying to find a bunch of ADP wins. But I know one of the most exciting hires of the entire offseason
Starting point is 00:02:17 was Mike McDaniel leaving Miami, getting fired, flirting with some head coaching jobs, ultimately ending up as the LA Chargers offensive coordinator. I know there's a bunch of players that you're bullish on in this new scheme, in this new fit.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Your overall vibes with this move and your enthusiasm for the Chargers skill position players. Yeah, very excited. Now they need to keep an offensive line and they're too healthy, which has been a problem in Los Angeles for a long time. But I'll tell you this, Mike McDaniel, we thought he was a genius and then we thought he wasn't a genius. But he was limited by his quarterback. His whole playbook had to shrink down because
Starting point is 00:02:56 he had a quarterback with a pop gun for an arm. Well, guess what? Justin Herbert doesn't have a pop gun for an arm. So I think we finally can see the full scope of what Mike McDaniel can really do because he doesn't have defenses that could take away his quarterback's few strengths. And so it's going to be fun to watch. But yeah, I'll Marion Hampton, Justin Herbert. Ladd McCockia, Rhonda Gadsden, it's going to be fun. Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. I think that there's a chance that, like you said, if the offensive line stays healthy,
Starting point is 00:03:24 maybe they add another offensive lineman. You go, you know, a lot of people projecting the chargers to either take an interior defensive lineman or maybe an interior offensive lineman in the NFL draft. You make this sort of higher like McDaniel. Harbaugh pushing the chips in. This is year three for him. I wonder if they don't go offensive as well.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I'm super excited about this one. Obviously, Omarion Hampton is a guy we could have talked about, but I think the market's baked in for him. There's a number of players we're going to talk about that have sort of become polarizing clicks at this point. You mentioned Ladd-McConkie. We're going to cover him. But last year, probably the worst pick you could have made
Starting point is 00:04:05 in the entire first round, and it's crazy to even say this, was Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson had an absolutely horrendous series, season. Some incredibly, incredibly low scoring weeks for him and a huge, huge, huge downgrade in terms of points per game averages. All of his stats were way, way down last year, which is insane when you're considering a player that's had so many high-end wide receiver one seasons and so much perceived insulation as a big-time fantasy scorer. Is this a chance for a massive bounceback
Starting point is 00:04:44 season for Jefferson in the 2026 season. I have to believe Minnesota will not go into the season with J.J. McCarthy as their quarterback unless they have seen some miraculous growth, which is possible, not probable. But they cannot go in. I even think a guy like Joe Flacco for a year, they have infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:05:04 The line was banged up. So I said this preseason, Jefferson was quarterback proof. Oops, I was wrong on that one. But what was funny, Theo? And I think we even forget this. Jefferson. through week nine, he wasn't great, but he was averaging 15 ppr points per game. Now, it wasn't what you want. He wanted 25. But then it was from week 10 on the single digit PPR games almost every single week. So yeah, Justin Jefferson, though, I expect the quarterback position to change, the line to be healthier. I think wherever you're getting him,
Starting point is 00:05:35 you're probably going to get the player we saw for the previous years. Yeah, and it's interesting because I come out with my early top 50 rankings, which you can read over at fantasy points, just a general PPR ranking. And I put Justin Jefferson towards like the in like the 20s, which felt really, really low. The underdog ADP market for him, early underdog drafters are drafting Justin Jefferson at 16 overall. So you're still getting a discount, but you're still paying a sort of a high end second round pick. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I think you need to see quarterback competition brought in and probably a takeover situation. Maybe something similar to what we saw last year with Indianapolis bringing in Daniel Jones, that sort of quarterback. And hey, they could have just kept Daniel Jones. They could have just kept Sam Darnold and had it all figured out. I love your call on a flacco. I think a bunch of those veteran names are going to be in play. Jacoby Brissette, a trade for Brissette potentially.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Kirk Cousins, that name's been sort of thrown out there. with the history. Probably wouldn't get you that excited, but we have a great sample size of Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson putting up huge numbers. There's a bunch of veteran quarterbacks that we could say,
Starting point is 00:06:48 okay, we're back in business with Jefferson. And I think we're going to need that. I think if it's JJ McCarthy, I'm out at 16 overall. I cannot pay that price tag. We've already seen it before. Wild, wild, wild times of Justin. Last year, the first quarterback selected in ADP
Starting point is 00:07:06 was Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson was the league winner in 2024. Jackson absolutely cooked in 2024. This past year, drafters were betting on the same thing. It was Lamar Jackson, followed up by like Josh Allen and most of these drafts. Sometimes Alan went ahead of them, but Lamar was steamed up last year. Obviously, a disappointing year for Jackson, missed a lot of games here. A lot of change in Baltimore. Harbaugh out.
Starting point is 00:07:32 We've got a new offensive system, Todd Munkin out. We've got Declan Doyle coming over. from Chicago, which is very interesting hire. Doyle's going to be, I believe, the youngest offensive coordinator in the NFL next year, 29, 30 years old, and brings over some Ben Johnson concepts over from Chicago. What do you anticipate seeing with Lamar Jackson? Are you all the way back in? And I think people want to know, Jim, the rushing production went down big time.
Starting point is 00:08:04 This was the least effective we've ever seen from Lamar Jackson as a. runner. Was that reflective to the injuries, or is this a new normal, and he's just getting older, and this is going to be a guy that's never going to give us another, you know, 850, 900 rushing out season again? You know, Lamar only missed four games, but he injured his hamstring in the week four game. He had compensatory injuries after that. It was literally that kid's sung, head, shoulders, knees, and toes. It was everything. His knee hurt, his foot hurt, his ankle hurt. It was all because he was probably gimping around on the hamstring. and hurting his other, you know, areas of his leg.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I believe that's all it was. In the first three games of the season, Lamar Jackson was averaging 30 fantasy points. And it was about that much every game. It was like a 28 or 29 and a 31. So he was the same guy in the first three games in the season. But when he got hurt in week four, all of a sudden this season cratered, I think it was only injury, nothing else.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And if Lamar can't run and defenses know he can't run, you could defend him very differently. And so it's the whole point where people got to, crashed down a spy on Lamar and then oh something's open over to top and Lamar can make it happen. We saw a little of that magic in the playoff game against Pittsburgh, which was kind of nice. So I think Lamar, look, if somebody wanted to be nuts and take him as a quarterback one next year, I wouldn't have any dispute because I believe this is fully injured. The Declan Doyle thing, and I throw shade every year on these coaches on your show and I know.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yeah, and I'll say this. I'll give you a shout out. I want to be optimistic about these guys. Jim wants to keep it real about a lot of these offensive coordinator. So we got to do that again in the end of the summer. But yeah, Declan Doyle will. Keep going. Yeah. So look, one year at Ben Johnson, it was Ben Johnson's show. And Ben Johnson was in the process of discovering his talent. It wasn't like a fully functioning system. He was building it on the fly and changing it as he went. I don't think Declan Doyle has any takeaways from this that he can bring into Baltimore and put it. His personnel is drastically different. And his quarterback is drastically different.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And so I just think at the end of the day, the Bears had a dominant offensive line that they built up. Ravens don't have it. Declan Doyle is just a guy right now. He's just a guy. But he has Lamar Jackson. I think if you have Lamar Jackson, I think good things will happen regardless. Yeah, I think for me, Declan Doyle, I'm interested in. And I do think there's something to be said when multiple teams are trying to hire you.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And that might be teams just trying to chase it, get that Ben Johnson magic on their team. But I know Philadelphia made a big push at Doyle. He turned them down. There's got to be other teams out there that were sort of flirting with that one. There's some positivity there. I'm going to take an optimistic approach. Like you said, the personnel is there. We all saw what Baltimore was able to do a few years back when they transitioned from Greg Roman to Todd Munkin.
Starting point is 00:10:54 There's potential that last year things didn't go well, and they just strike gold once again. Zayflower is back, Derek Henry back. We'll see what they do with a couple of these free agents. And we wonder at pick 14 of the draft, could this finally be Baltimore saying, maybe I dip into this talented group of free agents, excuse me, talented group of wide receivers and draft one of these guys at 14 overall. Bateman was always sort of a Harbaugh favorite. I think they could significantly upgrade from that position. So we'll see what happens with Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And we're going to talk about a number of these other bounceback candidates. Should drafters be back in on Brian Thomas? Junior. We'll talk about it right after this. Boarding for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time. Play Ojo? Great idea.
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Starting point is 00:12:03 you call 18665-3-1-2-600-0 or visit the comics, Ontario.ca. Welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily, Theo Griminger, with Jim Coventry of Roto Wire. Jim, what do you have going on this time of year? We're recording this just a few days before the Super Bowl. You're always a busy man this time of year. Yeah, my goal is always to have about 600 pages of notes from the end of the season until the end of the NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Notes on micro trends from the previous season that helped me see the future a little bit better. They had a good track record like digging into micro trends. Simple things. the next player we'll talk about, I will not jump the gun. When we get there, you hear me talk about a micro trend, and that's the kind of stuff you get. If you want to catch me on the X at Jim Coventry NFL,
Starting point is 00:12:45 that always kind of lets you know I've got cooking and where to find me. Yeah, highly recommend all of Jim's work. I know that my audience for multiple podcasts always enjoys listening to you. Jim's a big time ball knower. Big shout out to your guy, Alan Soslowski. Alan Soslowski over at RodeWire is due to come on one of my podcasts. I'm going to hit him up. another guy that my audience always loves listening to.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But let's talk about BTJ. Let's talk about Brian Thomas Jr. And we're going to talk about two year two wide receivers back to back here. BTJ and Ladd-McConkie sort of have to get linked towards one another because last year it was nothing but BTJ enthusiasm. BTJ was a one-two-turn pick and one that when you click that button on Brian Thomas Jr., People got so excited. This was like for some very smart people in the industry,
Starting point is 00:13:38 we're talking about Brian Thomas Jr. As like a dark horse wide receiver one candidate. The market was in fuego with this one. Liam Cohen was supposed to come over there. There was talk that we're going to get BTJ being used on like these design targets, move him around in the slot on top of all we were able to see from him. When he finished as a wide receiver one, a strong wide receiver one as a rookie, was like wide receiver six overall as a rookie.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Last year was a complete disaster. Now you've got arguments where Parker Washington came on. Jacoby Myers was traded for and re-signed. And then you've got Travis Hunter who knows what's going on with that one. Bretton Strange will be fully healthy. So people like Jacksonville heading into next year. People are back to liking Trevor Lawrence. But there is so much market apprehension when it comes to Bremen.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Ryan Thomas Jr. Are they, is the market correct right now pushing BTJ down this much? I tell you what the, you said the market was in Fuego, I was screaming for the mountain tops, do not draft Brian Thomas, give somebody else that problem. And it was the micro trend. I told you I studied microchrends. This was an easy one. This is the easiest spot like in my life of studying them.
Starting point is 00:14:51 There were 11 games of Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas played as a rookie. He averaged 13 PPR points. There were like seven, six, seven games he played at Mac Jones. He averaged 23 points. Why? Everybody wanted to say, oh, no, Thomas just broke out. No, he didn't. He had a quarterback that would throw a Yolo. Mac Jones would stare down the blitz. He would throw the ball deep down the sideline. Brian Thomas, he was in his element. With Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence never operated that way. There was no chemistry between those two in 11 games. And there was no sign it was getting better. People just bought the numbers. And the numbers were Mac Jones numbers. And then this year, we really learned what it was.
Starting point is 00:15:25 because the Jacoby Myers trade spoke volumes. And what the volume is spoke, Liam Cohen realized, oh my goodness, Trevor Lawrence can't throw to the perimeter with success consistently. He's a middle of the field thrower. So I know that Liam Cohen had to have a hand with management to say, please get me something I can function in the middle of the field because I need Trevor Lawrence to live there. And then once Myers got there, Parker Washington in the slot,
Starting point is 00:15:49 all of a sudden, look where all of the success for Lawrence came, middle of the field. So where is Brian Thomas going to play this year? Now in 2020, this, outside where he belongs. But he'll be a sacrificial X, which that means this. They'll use his speed to stretch the field. Defense has got to respect the speed,
Starting point is 00:16:06 opens up the underneath. Brian Thomas, good luck. Take him again if you want. I'm sitting out. Yeah, I want to say I'm with you. Wide receiver 32, so it's staring at you and you're like, okay, this is a potential bounceback candidate. This is a player that we were steaming way up.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Now he's all the way down at wide receiver 32. This is an overcorrection by the market. BTJ just seems like a bad fit for this offense. They still have him under a rookie contract, though, Jim. So a lot of the talk that, hey, let's trade BTJ here. It doesn't really benefit Jacksonville that much unless they could flip him for, you know, Jordan Tyson or one of these guys. It's not necessarily, it doesn't benefit them to get off of BTJ on his rookie deal. Like you said, stylistically, he helps this offense quite a great deal because you've got Parker, Washington, Jacoby Myers, able to operate, maybe some increased targets out of the backfield, depending on what they do.
Starting point is 00:17:03 We saw some of that success down the stretch last year with Travis ETN, having some big time games as a receiver out of the backfield. So I'm sort of with you. I think BTJ is just a terrible fit here. And I think when we look back on his rookie year, he was more of an opportunistic, wide. receiver one. And this sacrilege for some people, because I, like many people, had BTJ on my teams. I enjoyed the league winner. But he was an opportunistic wide receiver one. There was a complete lack of target competition. You had Mack Jones with tunnel vision. And you had Mac Jones with a perfect fit for BTJ. Now, if BTJ does miraculously get traded and ends up in a different situation,
Starting point is 00:17:46 we can take a step back and we can look at it. And I think he would move up. He's not untrue. talented, but it is a bad fit. And when you look at wide receiver 32, like people say that's cheap, but Cortland Sutton is wide receiver 31. I'll take that all day. Mackay Lemon, the mystery box landing spot for Mackay Lemon, but we think first round, and a guy who profiles is an easy button target for whoever he lands in, he's wide receiver 30. And then I look down the list, Marvin Harrison Jr. at wide receiver 34, Michael Wilson at wide receiver 36. Parker Washington, his teammate at wide receiver 37, all of them very interesting values. So it's not like BTJ is surrounded by a bunch of dusty guys.
Starting point is 00:18:32 All these guys sort of have an outlook that's interesting. So BTJ, I hate to say it. I think you're right on this one. I want to spin this to a positive BTJ. And I think long term, if you're a dynasty manager, buying and holding BTJ, I think is doable. But you might get more of a year three than a year two. type bounce back season, just my initial vibes. Ladd McConkey, you talked about Mike McDaniel coming over to Los Angeles. And I think there's collective enthusiasm for Ladd McConkey. But Jim,
Starting point is 00:19:03 the last seven, eight games of the year, including the NFL playoffs, abysmal. He had fewer yards in his last seven games played this past year, including the playoffs, than he did in his record-breaking rookie year game against the Texans in the NFL. NFL playoffs the previous year when he broke the Pucanakua's record for the most receiving yards by a rookie in NFL history. McConkey also, when you talk about the opportunity cost for these guys, BTJ cost you an Amon-Ros-A-Brown, Ladd-McConkey cost you with Jackson Smith and Jigmo last year. They were right next to one another.
Starting point is 00:19:42 The drafters who took JSN to the moon, the drafters who took Ladd-McConkey, not so good. Will he bounce back with Mike McDaniel? how does the fit look in this new scheme? When you mentioned the draft, that was a flashpoint for me last year when I decided that JSN was a screaming value. I go, there's no way we're going to put McCocky ahead of JSN. And obviously that worked out well. But here's the thing, not really McCocky's fault.
Starting point is 00:20:05 The offense was broken. Ray Sean Slater lost for the season and then Joe Altman missed most of the season. And it got so bad there was no running game. Well, Marion Hampton was out. So there's no running game. The offensive line was a disaster. And defense just started sending people. because it's like, well, look, the quarterback's not going to have any time.
Starting point is 00:20:22 We're going to be able to pressure him like always. And one of the problems that McConkey had is that we would have thought he'd be the quick outlet guy who'd catch all the passes with the pass rush. It wasn't the case. Keenan Allen was playing about half the snaps, but he was the short area guy. And so that made McConkey an intermediate guy for an offense that didn't have the time to throw an intermediate pass. And then a Ronde gas that had his cup of tea where he was hot, but that was short area of the field. So it just was one of those perfect storms where nothing went well. Imagine that Los Angeles, Chargers, fans.
Starting point is 00:20:54 You get poor people. You deal with that every year one way or the other. But yes, the line has to be healthier. Mike McDaniel will weaponize McConkey. I doubt Keenan Allen's back. If McConkey needs to be used in various levels of the field, McDaniel will make sure he's an integral part of that offense. So I am very optimistic for Ladd McCockie.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yeah, McConkey's one where the market agrees with you. He's at wide receiver 16 on underdog. It's almost like last season never happened. I think that the McDaniel effect is real here. For me, and again, there's going to be people in the comments. There's going to be analysts that are going to say, you know, vacated targets are overrated. But I think that Los Angeles is not going to have Keenan Allen back next year. Just my initial lien with the amount of draft capital they've spent on guys like
Starting point is 00:21:43 Trey Harris, Ladd McConkey, Orande Gadsden. and Quentin Johnson, they've got the players to sort of move off of Keenan. Keenan's already going to be 33 years old. So Keenan Allen was heavily targeted, though, this past year. And I think that was the propensity for Justin Herbert a lot of times to lock in on that veteran, a little veteran's deference for Keenan Allen. You take Keenan Allen out of the mix, who is the wide receiver who he's sort of most comfortable with, especially in the intermediate, is going to be.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Ladd McConkey. So I think Ladd McConkey, year three, it's a little bit of a post-type. I don't necessarily love the wide receiver 16 price tag. I'd probably be a little more comfortable if he was wide receiver 22, wide receiver 23. But I don't think he's a player that's going to burn you like last year. I think he's a clear bounce-back candidate. Do I like him more than a Garrett-Wilson type right around him? Probably not. But I think that Ladd-McConkie has a a chance to bounce back. And like we said, a big time offensive explosion can carry multiple boats with it. So if this Chargers offense has this sort of impact season that we think Justin Herbert and Omar and Hampton have these big years, Ladd-McConkie will probably be
Starting point is 00:23:02 carried with it. It's going to be an efficient offense. So those two guys, BTJ, were kind of out on, Ladd-McConkie, we're pretty much in on just a little expensive for me right now, Jim. Let's take one more quick break. And when we come back, let's talk about Baker Mayfield, new offensive coordinator. Does he get back to similar stats that we saw in 2024 or is 2025 sort of the new normal right after this? All right, welcome back. Fantasy Football Daily, Theo Greminger with Jim Coventry. Let's talk about Baker Mayfield.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Because Baker Mayfield had the 41 touchdown past season in 2024, loses Liam Cohen. They moved to Josh Grizzard. Josh Grizzard now fired, and Tampa Bay hires Zach Robinson. Robinson coming over from Atlanta was a big-time name. We talked about like Declan Doyle a few years back. Zach Robinson was that guy. Zach Robinson had his pick of several jobs, ends up in Atlanta, mixed results with the Atlanta Falcons for Robinson. Year one looked pretty bad, year two kind of mixed.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Now he's sort of falls upward into a really good situation in Tampa Bay with a lot of offensive firepower. Mike Evans a free agent, though, Jim. I'll throw that one out there. What do you think about Baker Mayfield in this sort of offense? So first, a quick history lesson at Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield has been unfairly judged. As a rookie, 27 touchdowns in 14 games. The second year is the year Freddie Kitchen just lost his mind. And Baker threw 22 touchdowns with 21 picks. It wasn't on him. Baker comes back in 2020 with Stefanski, 26 touchdowns, eight picks. He was really, really good. And then we remember 2021.
Starting point is 00:24:46 That's the year we all hated Baker Mayfield, 17 touchdowns. He had injured both shoulders. He should not have been on the field for more than half of that season. But he is a tough dude. And so that season made him a cast out in the NFL. And remember he had that year between Carolina on the Rams where he was on his traveling tour. Well, then he goes to Tampa, 26 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And then he comes back with another, the 41 touchdown with Cohen. And then last year, it was sailing. Remember they were chanting MVP and Tess Johnson thought it was him. They were chanting MVP for. So Baker is, Baker is probably like a 30 to 32 touchdown pass guy in a good offense. And he won't at that 41 again. The 41 was a career year. Those happen.
Starting point is 00:25:31 But he's not a bum. He was averaging two touchdowns a game through week 10. He injured his shoulder. It was a different shoulder. But when he got hurt, I believe the Detroit game, he was never the same after that. When Baker is hurt, Baker plays, but Baker is not good. I believe it was an undisclosed injury or if it's disclosed it wasn't talked about. And Baker cannot play hurt.
Starting point is 00:25:53 So if he comes back next year and we assume he's been healthy most of his career, healthy Baker, he is going to beat ADP. He's going to be a quarterback seven-ish, but he's going to get any runs too. So Baker is going to be fine this year. Yeah, it's interesting because we had back-to-back quarterback one finishes pretty strong ones. including the year with Liam Cohen, where, like you said, the 41 touchdown passes, Baker was one of the best ADP values in all of football that year at the quarterback position. Then this past year happens.
Starting point is 00:26:24 He still has 26 touchdown passes this past season. So not like, you know, he's falling off of a cliff here, but the market is now pushing him down to quarterback 18. This time last year, people wanted to push Baker Mayfield into like that quarterback 7, quarterback 8 range. It was like Baker's the safe one. By the end of the market, by the end of the summer, the ADP market sort of had him in that QB10, QB12 range, but he's still comfortably a QB1. Now he's being pushed down into mid-QB2 range, and there's just a lack of enthusiasm for him. So I think especially if you're a superflex drafter right now doing early superflex bestballs,
Starting point is 00:27:05 Baker Mayfield is a fantastic pick, really all bestball drafts, getting some Baker-Mayfield. Mayfield down at quarterback 18. He's going right in front of Tyler Shuck, Sam Darnold, and right behind Jordan Love. I would argue that he has the highest touchdown passing upside of all of those guys. And I don't think that's really too extreme here. And 380 or so rushing yards for back-to-back seasons for Baker. He's given you a little something with his legs. So very, very interesting one when it comes to Baker Mayfield. Let's talk about Brise Hall. And Brees Hall last year, he hit a couple of milestones that very helpful for him for his career. He goes over 1,000 rushing yards.
Starting point is 00:27:48 But the receiving production went down a little bit. And we saw the points per game dip down to around 13 points per game, which is a career low for Brees Hall. So got the 1,000 rushing yard season, which I think was very important to, really important to a lot of running backs to hit that 1,000 yard mark at some point early in their career. but Brees Hall now enters NFL free agency. Could be franchise tagged by New York, could hopefully be somewhere else, which would be nice. A million spots that we could get excited about, Jim. This is sort of low-hanging fruit. I really like Bruce Hall right now, the value he's presented.
Starting point is 00:28:27 How excited about are you? Is he the next big free agent signing who ends up crushing in fantasy? He has to be, right? Even in a disastrous jet season. And I know the offensive line itself wasn't terrible, but the fact they had no quarterback, Garrett Wilson missed a lot of time. Defenses knew they had no opportunity to throw.
Starting point is 00:28:48 So they just loaded people down. And Breeze Hall still average 4.4 yards per carry. That speaks volumes. As a receiver, I have no clue why the Jets would not throw him the football. He was an answer to some of their problems. And yet he has the lowest catch amount in his career, 36 catches.
Starting point is 00:29:07 his rookie only played seven games. So he would have, he would have gone over that number. So it was criminal. And he had 9.7 yards per catch, which was better than his two years when he was getting a lot of work. The Jets coaching said horrific, didn't use Hall. Hall is still an elite player. People may think he's not, this was not his fault.
Starting point is 00:29:25 If he goes any team that has a pulse offensively, Brise Hall blows up and he's a top eight running back. Is there a preferred few, I mean, destinations, you'd be really jumping. for joy over. And is there any sort of destination that you would say, eh, I'll throw one out for you. And I threw this one out there as like a gross one. But when I look at cap space and I look at the type of players that organizations could bring in, Tennessee Titans, do they want to put the 24-year-old Breece Hall next to Cam Ward in this Brian Dable offense? They have the cap space to do what they
Starting point is 00:30:02 want. I think that those Bruce Hall, Alec Pierce, P. Orr, Swando, Robinson type free agent. are going to be very appealing to Tennessee. That sort of landing spot, I don't think we'd get the community that excited, but would that make you more excited than Mystery Box QB in New York? You know, Tennessee's offensive line came on as the season progressed late. They did have talent on that line. It didn't really materialize. It would be a decent spot for him to go.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I think, look, Houston, Texas, who make fun of their offensive line, the run blocking wasn't as bad as the past blocking. And I think that can get addressed a little in the offseason. I think Houston would be a decent landing spot for Breeze Hall. Outside of that, if we go over to the NFC, Minnesota. I mean, Aaron Jones is old. It didn't work out with Jordan Mason. They do have cap space.
Starting point is 00:30:49 They should have cap space because of their quarterback situation, not paying much money there. So I would think Minnesota, remember Minnesota had a lot of injuries on the offensive line. Christian Darrasaw was never healthy. Ryan Kelly had multiple concussions. So I think that Minnesota would be a phenomenal landing spot as well. Yeah, there's a bunch of landing spots. The potential that Chicago could save some money cutting D'Andre Swift, could they sign a Bruce Hall, Washington commanders have the cap space for it, put him next to Jaden Daniels, that would be a pretty fun one.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Dallas Cowboys who have moneyballed the running back situation in free, like the last couple of years with Dowdle, Giovante Williams, do they get some stability with Breece Hall? And then the one that everybody wanted at the trade deadline, Kansas City Chiefs in an Andy Reed offense, I think we get excited about the receiving numbers trending back. for Brise Hall. So there's a million spots where Brice Hall is going to end up bouncing back. I think this is a easy one. Strong click right now inside of round three in these early best ball drafts for Brise Hall. And we know the guy's talented. The guy's, he's a very effective receiver out of the backfield, which checks off a huge box for us. And he's only 24 years old. So Brise Hall, easy one right there. Let's talk about C.D. Lamb. And C.D. Lamb was not a utter disaster, but there was multiple games where he was outscored by George Pickens
Starting point is 00:32:10 a little bit different for us to see Lamb sort of operating as a co-alpha as opposed to like, you know, the big dog on the block, top of the food chain type wide receiver we're used to. Was that reflective to Lamb being a little banged up in the middle of the season or just George Pickens playing fantastic football? I think Dallas had some things to figure out. And the injury, look, he missed three games. I don't, I assumed he was,
Starting point is 00:32:35 healthy. He dropped a lot of passes last year. Yeah. It was very uncharacteristic for him. I just think it was, it was just one of those off years. And they happen sometimes. I think that ultimately in the off season, Dallas figures out that George Pickens is great and he's going to get the ball. But they need to focus on getting CD Lam because there's going to be a lot of openings in the short and intermediate area that he can torch.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I just think the coaching staff didn't do a nice job of identifying those areas of strength. But again, the drops didn't help. And I think then there became maybe a confidence issue. I think it was one of those between the ears things. But the targets really weren't there. The most he had in the game was 13, but there were only three times he went over 10 targets, which for C.D. Lam, that's a low number because we're just seeing those
Starting point is 00:33:18 big, big target games. So, but I think with Pickens there, 10's probably normal. So all that said, I think he bounced back. I don't think he's a wide receiver one, but I think he settles in now probably with Pickens as about the wide receiver. Five is where he ends up. And I think that's fine. Yeah, and then the market has him right about there.
Starting point is 00:33:37 So CD Lamb right around wide receiver four overall, going off the board at about eight overall on underdog. So I would say head to head for you, Jim, I guess to show your enthusiasm level for CD Lamb. Would you rather have CD Lamb or I'm on Ross St. Brown? Oh my gosh, for every year until this year, it would be like CD Lamb slam dunk, slam dunk. When I'm in Ross St. Brown at 1,400 yards last year, that was really, a sign. Because I knew he had that 1,500 yard season three years ago. I said, that's a career year. Every year it's double digit touchdowns. It's 10 to 12 touchdowns. His floor is very good. I think right now it's really hard to pass on the safety of Ammanra St. Brown because with Pickens in
Starting point is 00:34:21 Dallas, I don't know that Lamb has the upside that we thought he'd have. So I prefer the floor ceiling combo of Amunra. What about you? I'm Amman Ra as well. And this is the first year that I've also kind of ranked him ahead of C.D. Lamb. I think Amon Rae St. Brown, it's just the appreciation of Amon Ra. He's unflappable. He's a true alpha. And he's like the threat of the Jameson Williams taking away targets. It's not there like we have with George Pickens taking away. It's completely different ballgame there. So like Amman Ra St. Brown, I think, is ahead of him. Here's another one for you. Drake London, who goes a few picks behind C.D. Lamon. younger back-to-back years of 16 points per game for Drake London.
Starting point is 00:35:11 And we have the Stefansky offense now, probably a little more play action than we're used to in Atlanta. Where are you at with Drake London versus CD-Lam? Well, I will have to say this. I don't know how much more a coach can get out of Drake London than Zach Robbins had got out when he was healthy in on the field because we just saw staggering target numbers and great production to go along with that. So look, if you get the game,
Starting point is 00:35:35 when London was cooking, you get the same with Safansky. So I don't know that that's much different. Remember, we had London missed a month, and I don't think he should have come back, because in the last three games, he did not play well. So I have to think he was never really healthy after that. But if you take it from the beginning of a season through week 10, in nine game sample, I mean, he was almost close to 20 fantasy points a game. Yeah, he had 177 PPR points.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yeah, multiple weeks in a row where he was the wide receiver one. I think it was three weeks in a row of wide receiver one overall, wide receiver one overall, wide receiver one overall, wide receiver one overall. That's close for me. So it's my only take with CDE is Drake London, I can get him nine picks later. Again, I'm splitting hairs here, but I think it's a better value for what it's worth. It is. Yeah, so I think we're kind of there. So lamb we like, but again, Amman Ross St. Brown, Drake London, sort of in the same wheelhouse.
Starting point is 00:36:32 But lamb's going to be fine. Lambs at absolute stud. Here's one for you. Terry McLaren. Terry McLaren, we had McLaren go absolutely nuts in year one for Jaden Daniels, had really his best season as a pro, ran absolutely pure with the touchdown numbers, broke a bunch of commanders slash Redskins records. He had, what was the final touchdowns, 13 touchdown grabs in 2024?
Starting point is 00:37:02 and a bunch of smash weeks. This past year misses a ton of time, an absolute ton of time after signing that contract. And we also had the holdout during the off season, which I have to think
Starting point is 00:37:15 had a big impact on this bad season. And you're right. And that's the thing. The holdouts, aging players, and then he got dinged up and then recovery from the, but age and injury recovery, a 30-year-old receiver
Starting point is 00:37:26 coming back from an injury, not good. But the other thing is, we were tying him to Jaden Daniels. And look, Theo and I, probably said this on your show. I was never going to buy that such a slight quarterback was going to get through without injuries. I'll back up on this. Jim, you were telling people last year in the peak of Jaden Daniels's high end ADP that you were fading him at that ADP cost,
Starting point is 00:37:49 and you brought up the fact that you thought he would miss some time. He's not going to be able to sustain these hits. Jim Coventry, a pretty sharp guy. It just, it's a size thing. It's the history the NFL, quarterbacks of that frail. He's like taller. His weight would seem to wash. But then when you throw his height in, no, it's not. He's too lean. And so betting on McLaurin would have also been off a holdout,
Starting point is 00:38:16 betting on Daniels as well. It was too volatile of a mix. That's why I was out in him. But look, this year, his ADP will be much more friendly. And if you take a shot on him, you are going to bet on Daniel saying healthy. And it's a coin flip. but if you're willing to bet on that, then I guess you're going to McLaurin as well.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah, they're tied hand in hand here. And I think both of them have a very appealing ADP discount. McLaurin you're able to get at like the wide receiver 24 or wide receiver 25. Essentially, he's a very low end wide receiver two. Last year you were having to pay like he was going ahead of Devante Adams last year. And that was always sort of the, I brought that up on a bunch of pods where McLaren never outscores Devante Adams ever. And last year I'm going to have to take him ahead of Devante Adams.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Essentially, you were having to pay the wide receiver one, wide receiver two, high-end, wide receiver two, low-end, wide receiver one prices for McLaren. It just didn't feel right. Now, at wide receiver 24, like you said, if we get him healthy, he's not holding out anymore, there's a great chance to bounce back here. and I have a sample size of him thriving with Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels also now, Jim, it's interesting how the quarterback ADP works. And every year there's a correction.
Starting point is 00:39:39 This year you got Josh. Josh Allen's on his own island. Josh Allen, kind of as he should be, is on his own little mini island. He's 29 overall. Then you wait about 20 picks for Lamar Jackson. Then you go about 28 picks behind Allen. is Drake May. Then you get to this other little mini QB tier where it's Caleb Williams being drafted as QB4 overall. That feels way too high. Caleb, I think, is in good shape, but asking him to be the QB4.
Starting point is 00:40:10 That's a tough put. Jaden Daniels, though, is being drafted at QB5, but again, I'm able to get him around pick 64 and then Joe Burrow at pick 65. So that own little, so Jaden Daniels, last year was almost neck and neck with like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, like a little bit of discount. Now it's a big buffer in these best ball prices. Jane Dales, if he stays healthy, could end up having a very big bounce back season. You bring up the longevity, his ability to stay on the field. But hey, if he does, then that rushing production, that the ability we saw as the accuracy in his passing game and the ability to hit McLaren downfield, I think Daniels is a spring
Starting point is 00:40:55 being bounced back candidate for me. Where are you at with this sort of price tag for him? Look, we were paying what third round price tag this year, as you're indicating. Well, I did a draft yesterday, the serious XM host and Daniels went in the middle of the eighth round. At that point, if you're telling me eighth round, heck, I'm taking Jaden Daniels. For that upside at that point, I'll pair him with a quarterback in the 11th or 12th round just in case he gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Y'all hedge. But you can hedge on a later round quarterback like that. in that same job, I took Burrell in the seventh round. I thought, you know, at that point, because it was Josh Allen, somebody did take Lamar Jackson in the end of the fifth. And then there was like nothing at all. I'm in the seventh round. I'm like, yeah, I'll take Joe Burrow there.
Starting point is 00:41:36 But like you said, Jaden Daniels falling in that range. At that point, yeah, I think you're pushing your chips in because you want to take down your league. There's a guy that can do that. Yeah, it's nothing but upside at that sort of a price tag. And we also have questions about what Washington's going to do on the offensive side of the ball this off season. Debo Samuel is heading into free agency. Zach Ertz probably done playing football, I would have to guess. I mean, huge, huge injury. We haven't seen a retirement announcement, but not going to be the starting quarterback of the Washington commanders next year.
Starting point is 00:42:10 McClorin is back. Do they upgrade the running back one position? They have not a whole lot of money invested in it. Jacori Kroski Merritt's seventh round pick, a bunch of guys that are just sort of journeymen there. So I think we might like what Washington does this offseason at the skill positions. We saw them last year really, I think, make a mistake drafting Josh Connerley at the end of the first round, considering they could have had a Luther Burden, a Trayvion and Hederson, an impactful skill position player there. Maybe we would have liked that roster a little bit better heading into 2026 with one of those
Starting point is 00:42:45 guys there. Considering Connerley wasn't just some slam dunk. They also acquire Laramie Tunsell. So I think they're still going to look to keep tweaking the O line. but they have to get younger and more talented at the skill position players. It's just, it's a huge disconnect with what they wanted to do last year. So Jaden Daniels, I think if we touch base in two and a half, three months, there's a chance that we're like, oh, look, they signed this guy and this guy.
Starting point is 00:43:10 We're feeling pretty good about things. So Daniels is a very, very interesting one. Let's talk about Chris Godwin. We talked about Baker Mayfield. Godwin's been a player that I know you've been a fan of over the years and the skill set that he brings to the table. There's the, Mike Evans might not be a Tampa Bay buck next year. Is there a chance that we see Chris Godwin have a sneaky good season?
Starting point is 00:43:34 They paid him lost off season, Jim. Yeah, this is really just a reminder that Godwin is coming up a dislocated ankle that was far more serious than anybody imagined. They tried to run him back in weeks four and five and he wasn't ready and they had to shut him down for another month and a half after that. So, I mean, again, he played two games, but he really didn't make his real season debut until week 12. and he did have a few good games in there.
Starting point is 00:43:57 He had four double-digit PPR point games, seven for a buck eight to touchdown against Miami. I think Chris Godwin is still an outstandingly talented player. I think his draft costs can be very favorable. I believe that he's 30, he'll turn 30 years old this month. He's not over the hill. And look,
Starting point is 00:44:13 when he's healthy, he is a very good receiver who has a connection with Baker Mayfield, who has always done well, throwing the players who live in the middle of the field. So yeah, I will be back in on Chris Godwin. And I was out last year in the very, very beginning of draft season, I was in on him. And then as we kept hearing about the ankle a little more, I backed off that quickly. But this year, yeah, full season of health and back in heavy on him.
Starting point is 00:44:36 It's easy for me with Chris Godwin. And some people probably rolled their eyes when we brought him up right now. Again, we're talking about players reflective to their cost. Chris Godwin is wide receiver 53 right now on underdog, Jim. It's free money. If Mike Evans signs elsewhere, he's going to go up 10. spots in ADP overnight. Even with Emeka Eggbuka, I think, being a little more consistent
Starting point is 00:45:00 next year. And I know there's some enthusiasm there with Zach Robinson. I'm a big, a mecca egg buca, year two, year three guy. But Chris Godwin, in this offense, it's going to pass a lot. Wide receiver 53, there's no downside for you taking him at wide receiver 53. The contract insulation is there. The guy's going to be on the field to start out the season, barring some unforeseen offseason injury. Chris Godwin, I think, is a easy, easy bet at wide receiver 53.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Keeping this conversation going here, a couple more players to discuss. T.J. Hawkinson is being sort of left for dead now. Really disappointing year for him. We're used to Hawkinson being sort of near the elite tight end numbers, where he's never sort of ever been in like the Travis Kelsey light, but he's had a couple of top five overall tight-end finishes this past year, ugly, ugly stuff for Hawkinson. And the ADP market has reflected it.
Starting point is 00:46:00 He's all the way down at tight-end 24 overall in these early best ball price tags, Jim. Yeah, if you're in your best ball league, look, make the bet that Minnesota gets a quarterback. We talked about this earlier in the show with Jefferson. Make the bet they'll get a real quarterback. And T.J. Hawkinson, he had two 900-yard seasons. Remember, 22, he was between Detroit and Minnesota. and then 2023 and then he had another big season. But in 2024, remember, he had a serious injury.
Starting point is 00:46:29 So coming off that. So he's fine. He will get a quarterback. He'll be a steal in drafts. He'll finish as a tight end seven to 12. And you'll be happy all day long that you had a tight end that could contribute each week. Yeah, Hawkinson, it just feels like a really beat up asset.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And again, for Best Bowl, I don't have to worry about what weeks to start him. but if he's healthy next year, the chances are he's going to be much better finisher than tight end 24. And if we get back a situation where you talk about guys like Flacco, you talk about guys like Brissette, Kirk Cousins, old, boring bridge quarterback will help the consistency of that passing game immensely. So I think Hawkinson at tight end 24, much like Godwin, these guys are getting too beat up. It's almost too much of a punitive 80-p price tag considering what we're going to be. we've seen from him for multiple seasons of his career, even if he's regressed a little bit, which he might have, tight end 24 is a little too low. A player that I'm into, and we always
Starting point is 00:47:30 love circling guys heading into year two, heading into year three, historically you get a lot of breakout performances there. Ricky Purcell is down to wide receiver 38, had some steam this past summer, but you talk about the potential carnage of the offseason upcoming. Juan Jennings is a free agent. Brandon Ayuk, San Francisco is finally going to move off of. And George Kittle, like you said, a complete lack of clarity for when we will actually get him back and fully healthy and ramped up. Where are you out on Ricky Purcell, who Kyle Shanahan goes out of his way to say nice things
Starting point is 00:48:09 about any time he's asked? We show Pearsall nothing but sympathy for his. a year when he had that offseason shooting that he was a victim of and that has nothing to do with his durability. The second year, though, this year, it was problematic. PCL injury and it could happen to anybody and I understand that. We're looking at a 6-3-189 receiver, the height and that weight combo, making more of a slight player, not Devante Smith's slight, but still slight.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And I do worry about durability because Pearsall is a player that we've seen Shanahan want to use in the wash, the middle of the field, where there's a lot of bodies and a lot of contact. Pierce all is very talented. And, you know, where you're drafting, I still think it's close to this year's cost. And that worries me a little bit. I would like more of a discount coming off of an injured season because I think there's still a lot of uncertainty. The talent's real, but the injury history is still questionable. So I think he's that swing for the fence pick.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And I think it's fine in that capacity. But I think there's not enough data on him to know exactly what we really have. Yeah. And I think it's a mystery box type. You bring up the lack of data. Can he stay on a field? But I'll say if he can end up doing it and we can have a healthy season out of Ricky Persol, this might finally be the year.
Starting point is 00:49:25 We talked about like last year, Chris Alave going around this sort of price tag. Every year we end up with one of these guys that's a wide receiver three, high-end, wide receiver four, who ends up pushing their numbers up to top 15. There's a lot of Ricky Persol haters out there in Dynasty. in redraft and in bestball because they've been burned by him last year. But Ricky Purcell can play this game. There's a reason San Francisco took him in the first round. And this is a franchise that I think evaluates the receiver position well.
Starting point is 00:49:59 They hit on Debo Samuel. They hit on Brandon Ayuk. Juan Jennings, they got as like a seventh round pick. Got a ton of utility out of him. So Ricky Persol being the next 49ers wide receiver to be an ADP winner, I think is presented to us. I'm in at wide receiver 38 price tag. Keeping this conversation going,
Starting point is 00:50:19 one more big name to talk about, Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson, we don't know who the quarterback is, but we do know that Garrett Wilson has been one of the most effective target earners ever since he entered the NFL. 147 targets as a rookie, 168 in year two,
Starting point is 00:50:39 154 in year three. and then this past year was heading in that direction as the Jets' offensive focal point before being derailed with injuries. The Jets paid him a big contract last year too. So the franchise has put a lot of stock into Garrett Wilson. Where are you out on him? Is this a screaming by for you without even knowing who the quarterback is? Yeah, I mean, Wilson's had bad quarterback players' entire career. And apologies to Aaron Rogers, but Aaron Rogers wasn't himself when he was.
Starting point is 00:51:11 there, right? So all that said, Garrett Wilson through five games before he got hurt was averaging 19 PPR points. There aren't that many wide receivers putting those kind of numbers up. Garrett Wilson doesn't have more than 1100 yards on a resume in any season, but he's always been a target hog. He's had a high floor. And look, if he's done this with bad quarterback play and he's been healthy other than this year, then why not can still consider him as a player that could give you top 15 wide receiver numbers with room for more. And if somehow some way, they upgrade their quarterback, there still is that season that could be one of a magical ones because this player is of that talent level.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I look at Alave last year where it's a 100 catch season. If we get a little bit of stability at the quarterback position for New York, and it almost, it's almost a, it's not, Jet fans won't like this one because Jet fans would love to have Fernando Mendoza, but they're not going to sell. the farm to trade up for the 101. And Mendoza is not exactly a Joe Burrow. He's a decent quarterback who is in a fantastic situation that he's the clear quarterback one with the Raiders picking out the 101.
Starting point is 00:52:25 A lot of years Mendoza is not in the mix for a top three pick. But Mendoza can be a top 18 quarterback. This is a different conversation. I don't want to get to Galaxy Brain here. but it might benefit Garrett Wilson and managers in fantasy that the Jets are going to end up with some sort of a bridge quarterback. They've attempted the Justin Fields experiment. They're going to move off of that. Probably going to be a little bit more of a pocket passer type situation with this kind of weird hire of Frank Reich as OC.
Starting point is 00:52:59 But I think that there's a chance that with a normal bridge, quarterback average type guy in there, you could end up with hyper targeted Garrett Wilson. Maybe we see 170 target season, Jim. And with the chance that Bruce Hall is gone, the offensive focal point for New York. So Garrett Wilson at wide receiver 17, I am in on. I think this is a good value. And I think Garrett Wilson could end up having a big, big season this year in New York, regardless of who is behind center. Well, maybe I should, I should take that one. back. A couple of guys would give me pause, but there's a bunch of names out there. I think you could end up with a Jacoby Brissette type that's maybe an ugly signing,
Starting point is 00:53:45 but beneficial for Garrett Wilson, the fantasy player. Yeah, 100%. I love the take on that. We're both in on Garrett Wilson. The sky's the limit if he gets some help. And like I said, if he doesn't, I said this earlier, he's still been good when he doesn't have help. 100%. And if you want to hear my dynasty takes, make sure you're you're checking out Fantasy Points Dynasty, YouTube, our latest YouTube channel, and Dynasty Life, my Dynasty Podcast, Jim's been on Dynasty Life. Jim, we'll get you back on Dynasty Life at some point.
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