Fantasy Football Daily - League Winning Dynasty Startup ADP Values and Fades | With Derek Brown (@DBro_FFB)

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

Dynasty fantasy football is gaining steam, and the market is getting sharper ... or is it?  The guys dive in headfirst with FantasyPros' Derek Brown to track some league-winning dynasty startup ADP values and fades for 2024. Jakob Sanderson also makes his return with a new ADP game designed to throw Thomas, Lucas, Derek and our listeners for a loop. Subscribe to FantasyPoints for FREE - https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans Where To Find Us: https://twitter.com/ElNostraThomas https://twitter.com/JakobSanderson https://twitter.com/LGilbertFF https://twitter.com/DBro_FFB More From Fantasy Points: Website - https://www.fantasypoints.com NEW! Data Suite - https://data.fantasypoints.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/Fantasypts Instagram - https://instagram.com/Fantasypts Facebook - https://facebook.com/Fantasypts (0:00) - Intro (4:10) - It is Draft Season for Dynasty Fantasy Football (4:30) - Where are the players that can win you leagues? (5:00) - What are we doing with Jermaine Burton? (13:45) - Break (14:40) - Jaylen Waddle is being slept on. (20:50) - Why is Geno Smith still sitting at QB30? (29:10) - Christian Kirk is forever underrated (35:00) - Daniel Bellinger is the TE the fantasy has forgotten (36:35) - Who are the busts that you need to know? (37:20) - Josh Jacobs is still in the 5th round of startups. Stay away (43:05) - Saquon Barkley is still the RB8. He will be much lower after this season. (45:05) - Break (45:10) - Drafting Travis Ettiene is a bozo move. (54:55) - Rachaad White is not a good RB, so do not draft him at RB12 (1:01:15) - Break (1:01:20) - IT IS GAME TIME #fantasypoints #fantasyfootball #nfl #bestball #dynasty #dfs #nflbetting #fantasyfootballadvice #fantasypointspodcast #dynastypoints Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What? What are you shaking your head? You're welcome. It's Tuesday night and that can only mean one thing that you are here locked in with us at FantasyPoint.com and at the FantasyPoint's YouTube channel. It's going to be a fantastic evening. Today we're discussing ADP. Now, we have been told online and really everywhere that the market is getting sharper. And you know, I'm just.

just not so sure. So we are going to have two different ways that we are going to test this. Of course, we have a game that is going to look at 2022 ADP. We're going to look at 2024 ADP and see who might be in the next version of this trivia game two years from now. We also have some players to buy into, some players to fade at their current ADP now that me and the gang had figured out what ADP we're going to look at with so many sources. So we're going to go over that. It was a fun pre-show meeting if you're wondering why we got a late start. Of course, if you're here and you haven't already, hit the like and subscribe, we have a ton of traffic.

And honestly, you got to be hitting that subscribe button to stay notified with everything we're doing because with franchise focus and everything else going on. It's nonstop right here. I, of course, am your host with the most time on his hands. I am Thomas. You can find me at El Noster Thomas. My fun fact of the day is that our guest today, Derek Brown, is the only person this show has ever booked. date and time and topic live on the air. I'm Jacob Sanderson.

My fun fact today is that your Boston Celtics are currently up nine in game one of the Eastern Conference Finals. This is the year. This is the year. Don't worry. My focus is 100% on the task at hand for now. This podcast, I promise. Yeah, for now, for now.

My name is Lucas Gilbert. I can find me on next at L. Gilbert FF. And my sad fact of this. the day is that there will not be a repeat NBA champion for what six champions in a row now because my Denver Nuggets are no longer in there. So thank you for that, Jacob. Good luck to you all, but I'm also slightly not rooting for you so more people can be sad with me. Fair enough. Nobody roos for the Celtics except Celtics fans. It's us against the world. Oh, yeah. Oh, good word. Here we go. I mean, my name's right here. If you can't, you don't know it.

Well, there you go. But my fun fact of the day, because I was tasked with this right before we went live is I'm actually an ordained minister for those unaware so if you need to get married at the expo I got you covered you and Reggie White

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Without you, there's no show. And that's just the way it is. Okay. Let's start this off. Because right now, a ton of drafts are happening. It's all over the place. It's the bees' knees. Aside from best ball, it's what the people are talking about.

The best ball bros are just built way different. So let's talk about how we can help people legitimately find players that can can win you leagues that are really that big of a value will start positive and work our way to the negative. So Derek, I want to know from you, the player you have selected that currently sits at a spot that you think is just too good to pass up. I don't really understand what we're doing with Jermaine Burton at wide receiver 63 and start up ADP right now.

that is a dramatic miscalculation to me. I just, I don't know what else we need to see from this. Like, we got landing spot, we got decent draft capital. He's 63 in current startup ADP. He's my wide receiver 43. And we've seen a quarterback and an offensive situation support three top 36, top 40 wide receivers. So why we aren't even with T. Higgins, if you put him there, why are we not putting Jermaine Burton into that same type of bucket?

But it's not happening. I just don't get it, guys. I mean, Burton's got all the chops to be higher in ADP, whether you want to talk about the analytics, we can talk about film, you can talk about his landing spot. Draft Capital was not a coffin nail, although a lot of people walking into the NFL draft thought it would be.

I just don't get it, man. I really don't get it. Yeah, it's the case where we got kind of everything we wanted, best case scenario. And still people are like, I don't like it. So, why? I think it's going to be one of those ones where, I'm not sure how they're going to long,

this year, you know, if they're going to move chase in slot in three wide sets or if they're going to rotate things around. That's what I think. I think Chase can be a lot. I think that the perception and, you know, we'll see whether this becomes the reality. I think the perception is, is that it's a 2025 landing spot where he's kind of in a borderline redshirt year with the two big outside wide receivers that they have. And then he comes in next year. I mean, I don't mind taking that kind of bet because I do think in this offense, you know, we see how the market treats players playing in a Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Joe Burrow, any of these offenses very favorably, right? And I think that it's pretty easy for Jermaine Burton to almost regardless of what he does this

year unless he like pulls the QJ where he gets all the injuries and then does nothing. I think it's going to be easier for people to apply some level of helium to his price going into next year. I think his college profile is interesting. I drafted him a bunch. I had him ranked, I think at the 209 in my rankings. And that was easily enough to get him at 25, 30 percent of my rookie drafts. I'm pretty excited about him.

I don't think I found a way to have enough of them. If I may speak for the people here and why he's this low, it's because coming out of college, there were not a lot of positive reviews about Jermaine Burton, the player. And if you watched Alabama this last season, their offense didn't do enough in the passing game consistently to get people excited about him.

Yes, I know that his efficiency numbers are way better than his raw volume stats. So that's something for us to look at. But he has all the makings right now, I think, of being somebody who can move 15, maybe even 20 spots between right now and your start of season ADPs, whenever this thing's all said and done. Just because as the community is getting more exposure on him, more people are listening to the smart guys on Fantasy Football podcast who are hyping him up a lot.

He's going to start rising. People are going to see more of those camp videos. So he's somebody who I think like right now, you're getting, what, early third, late second round picking your rookie drafts. He's somebody who's going to be going maybe even early second. I wouldn't be surprised if he starts jumping Ricky Pierceall in rookie drafts, if you have a super late rookie draft. But I mean, he's going to really skyrocket in value.

I just don't get it, man, because it's like, I feel like all the downside of T. Higgins signing long term there is what's baked into everywhere, like where he goes in rookie drafts, where he's at in startup perhaps right now. But none of the upside and even none of the contingent value, like even if T. Higgins stays, like what if he's honestly just better than T. Higgins? And I don't think that's crazy to say. Like his final season numbers were also capped like,

and maybe I'll just put this into, Milro is not good as a passer. Like that, that just needs to be talked about. So like, we attach all this stuff to like also like wide receivers. We talk about their influence by their college passers. Like I can point out multiple games on film where it's like, Burton's just dusting dudes and Milrow is airmailing his ass the entire time.

It's like, I don't want to see a lot of, put it this way. I don't see a lot of differences in the situation. And Jacob kind of hit it on this earlier, like with Xavier Worthy. Like you have a one year deal for a wide receiver. You have another guy who's entrenched. Yes, there's a big difference between Rishie Rice and Jamar Chase. But also, the difference between freaking jersever. Remain Burton is in the 60s for wide receivers and yes, there's a draft capital difference.

But you're telling me the difference should be that why between wide receiver freaking 25 and 63 in startups? Hell no. Hell no. I'll make the comp. I think like there's, we saw a lot of similar profiles this year with bigger wide receivers that had sparks of interest in their production profiles and other question marks. And Burton, you know, there's, we get into litigating the specific differences. But Burton, I think, falls into this group from a Brian Thomas to an Adney Mitchell to a Keon Coleman into a Xavier Leggett into Germain Burton. And it's like, what aspects do you prioritize, right?

Are you looking at early production versus peak production? Are you looking at per route production? Are you looking at efficiency? Are you looking at raw target share? Whatever you want to look at, you can find question marks. You can find upside. To me, outside of the draft capital aspect, he's pretty comparable with this. group of wide receivers, you are getting probably the best landing spot on him,

maybe not for immediate, but certainly for 2025 forward. I mean, I'll just say it. Like, the Bengals are not, the Bengals are a cash to cap franchise. They don't pay dudes. They're not paying T. Higgins. Like, this isn't the Eagles where they're willing to restructure contracts and pay Devont to Smith and pay AJ Brown and pay Jalen Hurts. Like, that's just not how the Bengals operate.

I think they've telegraphed what their plan has been the whole time, which was, if a team offers us enough where the difference to, the trade compensation and the comp pick is worth enough for us to forego T. Higgins in 2024, we'll take it. Nobody offered that level of compensation. So they're going to ride them out, and then they're going to probably tag and trade them or let him walk. I love that point, Jacob, because that's exactly like I have him ahead of all of those guys. So I do think it's kind of like a pick your flavor type of thing, but I have him ahead of Brian Thomas Jr. I have him ahead of Xavier Leggett. And I know people that are just like so tied to draft capital will hate

that. But if Burton didn't have the off-field stuff, he would not have gone in the freaking third round. So the draft capital conversation, like, when we apply some also, some context to that, it becomes not as big of a conversation to me. And so, like, I agree with a ton of that. And here's the other thing, man, and I'm not trying to put the damn tinfoil hat on, but T. Higgins hasn't even signed his Dan Tender yet. Like, what if he holds out? What if he pulls of Jonathan Taylor? Like can we definitively say that will not happen? I can't.

Well, it's also one of those things too, right? You get seven weeks into the year. T. Higgins has done pretty good. All of a sudden, the back tightens up, the hamstring tightens up. You know, his shoulder's not feeling so good. You know what I mean? And he does the sit-out at that point. Someone's going to pay him, right?

So again, Burton being here. There's just some guys that I don't understand him being near. Quentin Johnston DeAndre Hopkins Jacoby Myers Cortland Sutton Roman Wilson John Dodson Austin Austin Eccler It's just a bunch of guys

that I think I would rather have Burton over a lot of these guys So I think you're right I think that's a perfect I think that's a perfect start to this We're really hitting our pace marks as per usual We've gotten a solid 12 minutes One player that's it baby dynasty points we're cooking Oh were you expecting to go quickly

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now that we've got one player down. If I don't, Trey will find me. He will hunt me down. So we're going to take a quick two-second break on the live feed, a little longer for the audio feed. And when we come back, we're going to get Jacob's player that he's buying to ADP. And I doubt that that one's going to be 12 minutes or less.

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Right. Our families need timbits and our coffee. You need to like and subscribe so our families can continue to eat. So please, please do that. But Jacob, let's get your player at ADP so we can keep this rolling. So I was the guy I was originally going to say when I logged into the show sheet was already claimed. And I don't know by which one of you, but one of you is going to mention him. So I had to pivot and take a different player. And I'm going to stick with the wide receiver theme. This is not a guy. I particularly. been on for a lot of time in his career, but he's my most drafted best ball player right now, and he's going to become a major dynasty trade target. Down in the fourth round, top of the fourth round, wide receiver 14 is Jalen Waddle. Comes off career last, comes off a year last year, which is peripherals finally elevated to the elite level that I would have actually liked to see, has 0.27 targets per route run. That's clearly a career high, 2.63 yards per route run.

that's equal to Ammon Ra St. Brown right ahead of Pooka and Akua, right behind C.D. Lamb, totally in this elite range of where he's been, in my opinion, kind of been overdrafted. But he doesn't score a lot of touchdowns. He leaves a lot of games kind of hurt, comes back. And all of a sudden, this sort of what I view as peripherally kind of a breakout year actually becomes a year of which he's lost quite a lot of value. And the most important thing for his raw production, one year closer to Tyree Hill, potentially pulling the black marble out of the bag, potentially moving on.

And whenever you get a glimpse, like we did in the Jets game last season, of what a Jalen Wattle opportunity looks like without Tyree Kill in the game, it's completely explosive. So he's the guy that I think you can buy now. You're going to see major regression from, in my opinion, positively this year. He's always been a plus fantasy points over expectation player until this past year. And you're buying into a guy that is going to have potential to really elevate into the hyper-elite range, in my opinion, once Tyree Kill moves off.

Yeah, we did a video years ago that said, Why draft Jalen Waddle in round two. Jalen Waddle's your wide receiver one was no Buano for me then. Jalen Waddle's your wide receiver two or three on your team right now that you can actually get. Like he's falling behind some aging running backs, which I'm with you. I have not exactly been a buy Jailen Waddle guy because the cost never added up to me. But at this point, yeah, I agree. Because as much as I don't think Tyreek is actually retiring to go and do porn,

next year with with the new child support that that man is about to have to be paying it is still possible because we don't know we don't know anything so with his with his ADP that we're looking at I agree Jalen Waddle's a massive buy for me he wasn't the he didn't steal him from me but I definitely agree fourth round Jalen Waddle I'm I'm all in comments it's not that I don't like I agree with the with the sentiment around Waddle the only thing I worry about is Does that type of year last year continue into this year? And only because like the end of the season numbers looked really good for Waddle, but the purg, like, if you had to roster him in any league where you had to like start him

and not a best ball function, it was tough, man, like 57% of his games were out, he was outside the weekly scoring. He was outside the top 24 wide receivers. And he, he got like no end zone usage or as far as end zone targets. So that's, that's my only concerns. like, like I won't, I will not shade at all the talent or Tyreek leaving or who Waddle is as a player. I just worry as much as we saw them consolidate on Tyreek last year. And the other thing that I, that I'll bring up here too is that and I don't think that these are like immense like

difference making players that they've added to the offense. But if he didn't have much of a red zone role and Tyreek took up so much of the. offense last year. Now the addition of Jono Smith and O'Dell Beckham, I think can it hurt what he does this year in the sense of Odo Beckham? I don't think he's going to be a full-time player, but when he's on the field, does he get pull away even more or just as much red zone looks, even if we were hoping for regression? And I mean, outside of this offense, they had nobody. Like in the passing game outside of those two guys. So it was like, why did Waddle get such a small piece compared to as far as like high leverage and what he had done in previous seasons.

That that's where my concerns are. I love the player and I'm pretty much in line with this as far as like I haven't met wide receiver 16 in my ranks for dynasty. So like I'm not off. I just, I've got a few more concerns about Waddle and what his this year outlook especially looks like in terms of his value. Like could I go out and buy him even cheaper maybe towards the end of this season if it plays out that way. I guess it's my only worry. I think it's fair. I think the insane touchdown rate to the running backs,

I think is partly to blame for the perhaps wattle touchdownage, which I don't think that continues. I think it's so astronomically insane what those running backs did with the touchdowns, especially the passing game inside the 10-yard line with the little flip inside pass that the dolphins were able to run at impunity until the end of the year. I think that's part of it. I'm not concerned about OBJ. I what Ravens fans we know that he's cooked cooked like it's over over and John who's been cooked for quite a while so for terms of like pure pure upside week to week you're getting him in the fourth round I think that's the important part if he slips even more I mean at that point how invested do I want to be four or five years in if he still at this point can't maintain that value is that DJ Moore season from last year coming for him I don't know we know he's hashtag good at football

He's one of the more explosive players, and he has 40-point week upside. Now, imagine if they just gave him a good quarterback. Oh, my God. I couldn't imagine what that offense could be with a decent quarterback. But, I mean, they're about to pay him 50 mil, so we may never know. We may never know. And that makes me sad. All right, Waddle, bye.

Lucas, was that your guy? Is that who you had? No, I had to go off the board, but I was going to take. Okay, perfect. Lucas, who do you got? All right. So with two wide receivers taken, I'm going to save one of my initial thoughts for later. And I'm going to go with the quarterback position, go with somebody who you can get in the 11th round of your startups right now at QB30.

And that's Mr. Gino Smith. Oh, yeah. Just to name some of the core backs. I'll like this take. Here else go. Just to name some of the core backs around him. You have Bo Nix at 28, Aaron Rogers, Gino Smith. Derek Carr, Daniel Jones, Russell Wilson, Sam Howl.

One of these things is not like the other. And one of these things is named Gino Smith. And even last season, he still had a top five big throw percentage in the NFL. He has a kind of average A dot, but he makes up for it by completing so many of those passes. He's the top five adjusted completion percentage. I think that Seattle got better this offseason two, which makes it even easier to buy into this narrative that he is going to go in for somebody that would be a quarterback three on teams. He is going to be a very solid QB2 that you do not have to pay a QB2 price for.

And I understand that Michael Pinnock's Jr. Probably is going to have more value after this season. Same with Bo Nick. Same with Will Levis. So on and so forth. But I'm going to take his potential for production over any of those guys. And if you can have him that cheap and start stacking some of the other positions on your team, that's that's just such easy money if people are going to let this still be a thing take advantage of it

it's just a tinfoil hat sam howell believers right that still think that this man is is him this dude had just all the opportunity literally all the opportunity and could not stop handing the ball to the other team on a regular basis yet we have our guy gino in an era of two high safeties. You mentioned his hero throw. Well, guess what? I wrote them up as veterans that you want to be buying a little while ago at FantasyPoints.com in my article. And it is insane. This man loves to throw the ball deep. 56 deep throws last year. Still maintained a top 15 completion percentage over expectation. Top 15 adjusted completion percentage. And this man, yeat balls on a regular basis. We love that. Big play Gino is someone that.

has been a favorite of ours for a while. That's not going to stop because Sam Howell came to town. It's just not. However, I will say if you don't want to buy Gino at his price, then draft Sam Howell at his. Pick up one of those two because that offense is going to be stolen. If you're obsessed with Sam Howell, like a bunch of people are, I don't really get it. But whatever, he's cheap enough.

I'm not going to make a campaign against the guy who's worth of third round pick. Fine. Take your lottery ticket on Sam Howell. Charlie got to go to the chocolate fact. and he only bought one chocolate bar. Maybe you'll get a quarterback one out of it. But I couldn't agree more with everything you said about Gino. I tweeted all the splits a while back with Gino Smith's early down EPA and success rate compared to third downs.

And then also focusing in on when not pressured, when pressured. And the overarching conclusion is that the sole reason really why the Seattle offense didn't work out last year, is not Gino under pressure, but just how frequently he was under pressure. In essence, every quarterback is worse when pressured versus not pressured. Gino wasn't meaningfully worse when pressured. He was just pressured substantially more often that especially hit on third downs, which of course increases the variance of your offense and negatively so in this case. So that's, that's right now with Gino.

I think he's a massive buy. He's just a darn good quarterback. And he would need to be a fundamentally different quarterback that he's been the last three seasons for him to get benched for Sam. Hal, I don't expect it to have. Yeah, I'll push back about anybody even having interest in Sam Hal. These two guys, they're not like each other at all because one of them actually plays quarterback well and the other one sucks.

So I don't want quarterbacks that suck that have no draft capital tied to their names and have already been traded. Like one franchise already had one of these guys as a starter for an entire season and said, he sucks so much. We're just going to trade him and get rid of him. He's not even good enough to be a backup. We'll take the pick. So why would people want Sam Howl?

I mean, to me, it's not even a lot of here to take it. It's just like literally walking outside and saying, I don't like this $5. I'm just going to burn it. I'm going to sit in on fire. Why would I like $5? And I'm with everything Jacob said because I looked into Gino because the Seattle offensive line was absolute freaking dog water last year. And to add context of that, he had the fifth highest pressure rate face last year.

sixth highest pressure rate over expectation. And Jacob, I know you probably outlined a lot of this in your tweet, but I pulled the same numbers, man. And it's like, Gino Smith was still amazing last year when they weren't pressuring his ass. Like 15 yards per attempt, first and big time throw. Fifth best in PFF passing grade. And I did listen to, this was Brett and Joe Marino's first episode on the fantasy points feed the other day, talking about one of these.

stickiest stats for quarterbacks year every year over year is uh pass a rating from a clean pocket last year gino smith amongst 33 qualifying quarterbacks was 12 so he's not bad the damn offensive line was terrible and i think they made some pretty solid bets in the off season on bounce back guys and signings and what they've done for the offensive line that i think pay off this year and just totally not getting super injured on the off season on the offensive. Yeah. I mean, the thing about it is, is like, none of us know what Seattle is going to be as an offense. Like, I think everybody takes this loose narrative of, well, their head coach is defensive-minded, so they're going to run a lot. Dude, nobody knows that shit. Nobody knows if any of that's going to come

true. They signed their offensive coordinator literally had Michael Pennix back there just gripping and ripping and chucking the shit down the field last year in college. How do we know that that's not going to be what Seattle is this year. Nobody knows that. And if anybody tells you that, they're full of shit. Yeah. And Pete, with Pete being gone, what's great about him being under pressure a lot, which is 40% it was 40% of his dropbacks. He was still only sacked 14% of those. He was only stacked 14% of those pressure dropbacks. That's the third lowest rate. He was only behind Mahomes and Josh Allen. So even when you pressure him, he is mobile enough, scrambles enough, and can get the ball deep. after pressure has been applied still.

So we obviously, Jacob went off right on the offensive coordinator from last year in one of the most epic rants that I can remember in recent memory. He's not there. So you can breathe some fresh air. No, no, Caleb Williams gets him this year.

So, you know, hopes for him. Yeah, rip. And Deepro, just to expound upon what you said with the clean pocket, Gio Smith,

92, or sorry, 91.3, PFF grade from Clean Pocket. Sam Howell 71.6. But it was just the O line. It was just the O line in Washington. It's over, ladies and gentlemen. It's over. We're Sam Howell and the old passer rating from a clean pocket. Oh, look at that. 22nd. That's beautiful. He's living in the same neighborhood as Gardner Minshu.

Lovely. And he was QB4. Let's not forget that he was about to be benched by Jacoby Brissette. and Jacoby just couldn't stay healthy through practice. So they were like, well, get in their kid, I guess. Yeah, and he lost a lot of people leagues at that point. So, yeah, Gino Smith, I think, I think you absolutely nail it. I can be, I can be a little quick with mine. I don't need to be long-winded with mine here. I'm buying, I'm buying Christian Kirk.

This is just an automatic draft for me every single time. You're telling me I can get my fourth, fifth, sixth wide receiver. receiver 40. He's just, you know what you're going to get, especially if you get a man matchup. We know what he can do. 13 points per game to an expected 12 on any given week. This is a guy that's shown he can get you a 22, a 19, a 16.

That doesn't sound sexy. But he is a cheaper version of Chris Godwin. And of course, I want to buy Chris Godwin. I said on the podcast last year, the answer to Ridley versus Kirk was Kirk. and this year the answer to every other past catcher on the Jaguars is still Kirk and you're still getting him this was the guy was planning on taking okay there we go yeah it's the name that was at the top of my list when I logged into this sheet so it was already taken as well so that's the beauty of writing the sheet ladies and gentlemen I get first crack there we go but this guy is somebody that you know

in games against man coverage you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna get probably more first looks, 14, 16 points per game in your flex spot and wider seever spot, especially when people go on by weeks and get hurt and get nicked up. He's exactly the type of player in need. Not even just with ADP. If you go out and search trades involving Christian Kirk, this man is dirt cheap because there is a little bit of fatigue with him. Everyone mocked him for the big money.

There's always seems to be another guy around. not too concerned about Gabe Davis. Brian Thomas Jr. is going to have a completely different role, and Trevor Lawrence locks in on those wide receivers. He's not 30 or 31. He's in that prime age. Christian Kirk is what everybody wants Jacobi Myers to be

and never will be, and people still love going, inquiring them, some Jacobi Myers. Focus all your efforts in acquiring Christian Kirk, because this is a legitimate wide receiver that can win you weeks, when you need it. I will say,

because I'm not just going to give you all the roses about it. Zone matchups are not kind. That's still very important. But look, when it comes down to week like 13, 14, 15, half your teams on IR, you're going to be playing him anyway. Going by him,

he's super cheap, wide receiver 40. To me, it stands out as just completely egregious to me that he's still sitting there. Round nine. Don't get me wrong. I like Zemir White.

and Tage Spears and Ricky Pearsall, but Christian Kirk's the guy. Yeah, I like that call. I mean, Kirk, it was funny. I was actually DMM with Scott Barrett earlier today about Kirk and stuff, and he was asking me why I'm in on him, and I'm like, so I think he's gonna friggin' eat this year, man.

Like, with last year, weeks two through 12, when he was a full-time player because Douggy P wanted to do some goofy shit in week one, and I think he only played 66% of the snaps, or no, 60% of the snaps. I mean, after that, he was the wide receiver 19 when he was on the freaking field man like he was on a pace last year in those full games to catch 94 balls and finish with almost 1300 receiving yards and this

year it's like what did they at like Gabe Davis is not going to command a high target share I'm sorry for people out there that think Brian Thomas Jr. is going to walk in to be an alpha that shit's not happening he's probably going to say it play a similar role to just clear stuff out and Kirk and ingram are going to eat underneath man so like I'm with you. I think Kirk is a huge buy. Yeah, I've just been hammering Kirk and Engram as well in the best ball streets. Oh, hell. I mean, just an extraordinarily unlucky season in terms of the amount of touchdowns that were dropped or foot lands on a bounds.

I like betting on this offense to bounce back overall. And I love betting on it through Kirk. Like you said, it just lines up nice. You have two vertical receivers who, you know, hopefully can add efficiency, but are not going to be guys we're going to be drawing 20 plus percent targets per route run. on, that's going to leave a lot of the underneath stuff for Kirk and Engram. And I think Kirk is going to be the clear cut target leader on the team this year. Yeah, I agree.

And I think, like, as far as the coverage stuff, Thomas was throwing out, like, I think, like, if you're looking to project this team this year, your single high beaters are going to be like Gabe and BTJ on the outside. You're too high and your zone beaters are Kirk and Ingram all freaking day, man. Yep. Yeah. And just to kind of, you know, rub more salt in the wound here, even outside of your startup drafts, He is so easy to acquire.

Bullitt some trades from DLF for, I think it was last week, but we didn't quite get to him. Christian Kirk for the 209 in rookie drafts. I feel like that's a very nice Christian Kirk. I know that's also about where you would be getting to Maine. I was going to say, Lucas, you're basically telling me it's Kirk versus Burton. So it's like, who do I want more? I mean, like, I kind of take Burton there, but the price is not wrong.

The price is not wrong. Yeah, I go. I go Kirk there. But for the majority, I think you're right. 29, 210, 212? Yeah. Easy. Yeah.

Then Christian Kirk and 106 for Kendry Miller 105. I think that's a pretty easy Kirk side there. Free Christian Kirk. Yep. Christian Kirk, Cortland Sutton, 25 first for Tankdale, Josh Downs, and 305. I'm kind of leaning the Kirk side there. Yeah. He's just a guy that you can get tossed in to make a trade happen.

And you should be doing that. We love him. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Okay, that's, that's our buys. I do want to point out a bonus. There is a bonus that I want to hit.

Look, I gave you Daniel Jones last week as a big buy for me. Daniel Bellinger is somebody the fantasy community is kind of forgotten about. Look, I know, Jacob. We had to know him first. I mean, he had to be good for us to forget about him. I mean, Daniel Ballinger's rookie year was not horrendous. I thought you were going to say a letdown after the combine. Sorry, go ahead, Thomas.

Okay, okay, okay. But look, Darren Waller, right, is somebody that they still don't know is even going to play football this year. We just don't. And Theo Johnson is a late rookie draft pick who long shot to succeed for where he was drafted. He just was. He fell. So that leaves one other guy. And his name is Daniel Ballinger.

He's free. He's as free as free gets. And if you want your seventh to ninth tight end that you're probably rostering on your roster, that that could come to fruition. He's just him. Like we're still drafting Darren Waller at tight end 32. And as I'm looking at this ADP

and to answer the question, what ADP are you guys using by Brian? We're using ADP courtesy of dynasty datelab.com now that we've got it sorted out which one. Daniel Bellinger is going in the 23rd round, tight end 40. He is just as free as it gets. So, yeah,

there's there's your bonus there's your bonus one i mean Clyde edelder de lair is going ahead of him dari slayton cedric tilman guy in his name i can't pronounce so that's it that's him that's our bonus we're gonna go we're gonna go get negative a little bit

we're gonna get a little negative because i feel like it's important to be grounded last week we touched on this player with Ryan heath he's somebody that Ryan he's new article which if you haven't gone in red. You absolutely should at fancypoints.com. But Derek Brown,

you sir, have somebody that you want no part of. And as we were DMing today, you let me know that you have another player who I am in love with and that will make Jacob, uh, maybe audibly gag on air.

I think Jacob's eye is going to twitch when I say. Yeah. So let's let's talk about it. The player you are most avoiding to help people not completely gas their drafts right now. I, why, I, I'm struggling to even get this round because the, the startup ADP makes no damn sense to me. Josh Jacobs is sitting at RB12 in the fifth round. Did nobody watch Josh Jacobs play football last year?

Did it, there's nobody seen Josh Jacobs since he absorbed like a metric shit ton of volume and he's not been the same player and oh, guess what? On top of all of that, he's already dealing with a hamstring issue and we haven't even started camps yet. like I can't I can't I will happily fade Josh Jacobs into eternity and now he's on this like puffed up ass four year deal which basically is a series of one year deals greenbay could freaking get out of it after this year and for everybody hoping that Josh Jacobs bounces back I it's really just hope for me like last year he his tackle breaking metrics were nothing sure of God awful. And we could all say it was the Raiders offensive line. Zemir White had no problems running through that same damn offensive line and putting up really good stat lines throughout

to close the entire year because he could actually break tackles as opposed to what Josh Jacobs did last year with the 12th highest stuff rate amongst all running backs to at least 100 freaking carries last year. Jacobs was 37th to miss tackles force per attempt and 44th in yards of contact per attempt. Like these high volume seasons take it out of guys. They just they just unless your name is freaking Derek Henry, they take it out of guys. Like we've seen players even before Jacobs be ruined by these type of seasons. And I'll, I mean, just going to look guys, I la somebody that just now retired. David Johnson was never, ever, ever, ever, the same guy after he rolled up that massive volume season.

DeMarco Murray bounced back, but was still never the same guy. I just don't think we see it. I don't think Josh Jacobs is, is bouncing back. this year. I think it's going to be one and done in Green Bay. And if you're telling me in startups, do I draft Jacobs at that costly price tag on a one-year deal with crappy, crappy tackle-breaking metrics last year versus can I wait and get Marshawn Lloyd? Yeah, I'm waiting to get Marshaun Lloyd every single freaking day. Yeah, and I understand, look, Jacob missed one week and it became a Marshaun Lloyd Fest, so I know he's going to chime in here.

I'm like Marcha and Lloyd neutral I'm not part of you guys It's like Marshawn Lloyd's slapy hive But any excuse to dunk on Josh Jacobs You can count me in for that Right What it is for me I was part of the hive before it was cool sir

Just throw that out there There we go As as always there's the D-Brow hipster Point of reference that We need we need that here Because people got to know where to go But for me it's that Jacobs Just can't be expected to be the bell cow here

Whether it's I mean God awful AJ Dylan, please know. But Marshawn Lloyd is going to see the field, especially with how they're already talking about them, right? If you're not keeping up with Coach Week Index, you should be because he is a must follow on on the amateur porn site known as X.com. But no, I agree.

Josh Jacobs, I can't continue to say enough about how far out I am. But Jacob, let's dunk on Josh Jacobs. You weren't here for when we did it, so. Oh, I mean, I have nothing to add. I mean, Derek hit it. It's, it's, uh, this, this, this team doesn't use a belcow running back. They tend to use a, um, platoon system. I wondered when they went out and, um, perplexingly sacrificed Aaron Jones for Josh Jacobs.

If that was then signaling, like actually we care less about efficiency now. We just want a guy who can handle the rock, but nothing in Matt Lafleur's, um, uh, quips so far this off season about them adding Lloyd, about how they plan to use Jacobs indicates that they're going to be moving off their approach. So, you know, it. It's not very hard to get a running back these days. It's just no longer a remotely scarce position. You can get running backs at any part of the draft.

You can get them very cheaply in trades. If you're paying any sort of premium for a running back, they either need to be able to show legitimate efficiency juice and pass catching. And if they're not a special efficiency player and they have any sort of premium on them, like they better be getting like 95% opportunity shares. And Jacobs is an okay receiver. He's not been efficient other than one year of his career and not the most recent one. and he's probably not going to get that type of opportunity share that he had at that point.

So I think he's a clear avoid. Lloyd is R.B. freaking 44 per this ADP we're looking at behind Rahim Mostert, behind Gus Edwards, behind Jerome Ford, like, please do better people. I, I, I, I, I, dear God, that's better. I have a split. I have a split with him. Brian wants to know, are we buying. We are buying. It is at what price do you feel okay?

I've been buying him at 210, 211, just constantly. He's my most drafted rookie at this point. That is how far out. I think I'm at 40% roster ship so far across roughly 30 rookie drafts. And that number will continue to go up. I think we are buying. It is important to note, though, when we're buying somebody like Lloyd, that we are not buying just to say that we have a piece.

You still want to buy them at the cost that he's at. Otherwise, we are defeating the purpose. We can go a little bit higher with cost. but you do not want to be overpaying for this opportunity. That kind of ruins the plan. So I feel like that's important to note. Lucas, you were with us last week when we hit on Josh Jacobs.

So I want to go straight to the player that you are avoiding right now. Unfortunately, it is another running back. And I won't want us to be mean to running backs, but whenever people continually misvalue them, we have to call them out for it. And it's a running back that's actually going ahead of Josh Jacobs right now. And that's Sequin Barclay.

See him at RBA 8 and ADP. He is at 27. He is in the point in his career where his value is going to exponentially decline every year from here on out. 25.5 is the peak age for a running back to be. He is no longer that anymore. His PFF rushing grade was atrocious last season, had him all the way down RB 44. His elusive rating is in the 50s. It is just gross.

Yes, he is still breaking some tackles. He is still a powerful running back, but he is not the Sequin Barclay that you are valuing, valuing him at RBA. He's not going to have the same touchdown opportunities. I highly doubt he still gets anywhere close to the same amount of work in the passing game as he was gang in New York. There's not a recipe for you to get any sort of value.

on where you're drafting him right now i think that he should be going in i don't want to say the same range as joe mixon because that that is gross joe mixon's a whole other level of of rough but put him where the rashad whites james cooks are at a minimum like start putting that down instead of round four he should be round seven round eight uh at a minimum if not further down i'm right there with you and my the player that i'm going to talk about goes right beside him so i'm I'm going to piggyback off of this. We're going to do this together as a team, one band, one sound here on these running backs. Before we do, though, we have to take another break.

So quick break, be right back, and then we are going to hit these backs. See, it's kind of funny that you mentioned Barkley, because the player that I have that I'm completely avoiding is Travis E.TN. And to me, they go so close that I feel like we have to lump them in together. These are 25, 27-year-old running backs that are just going entirely too high, in my opinion. You have Sequin Barclay going ahead of Devonta Smith, Michael Pittman Jr., Brock Bowers, Devon A-chan. If you're drafting a running back, just make it A-chan at this point. But it's E-TN that really stands out to me because he's going,

just near some of the Drake London's, Dak Prescott's, Chris Olives, Brandon Ayukes, Trey McBrides. And to me, that's not defensible. This guy is declining in his ability to break tackles, a 0.22 mistackles force per attempt. Second on his own team to the atrocious Tank Bigsby, who had a 0.24.

He had an unbelievably large workload last year with 260 carries, let alone his receptions, which were a lot of screens, a lot of checkdowns, and he ran hot on touchdowns. He ran so hot on touchdowns that one of my favorite statistics when looking up Travis E.TN this year is that he had, I couldn't believe it. He had six games where he was great.

Five of those six games came before week nine, before their by week. He had a stretch of four straight games where he was absolutely insane, multiple touchdown games, huge points put up. And then he also had week one. He did not do that again until a week 17 matchup against the Panthers, which if he didn't do that, people would not be drafting them this high because something a former host, Billy, had mentioned, when you have that last memory of a player being that guy that potentially won you a championship, that can boost that player's value for a long time after that.

It just does. It's just how the brain can work. This is somebody whose best output in his season came early. The workload got to him horrendously inefficient down the stretch. They're already talking about reducing his workload to what we saw towards the end of last year. Again, you can go and find that with Coach Speak Index. You should be.

He is just not a guy that I think belongs. where he is going at RB6 before guys like Drake London Brandon Iu, Tray McBride Jalen Waddle who he talked about earlier Tua,

Pittman, Smith, Bowers, all guys that I would rather have on my team aside from ETIN. This drafting Travis ETIN right now at his price

is big, big bozo energy to me. I agree with the Barkley call. I have agreed with the ETHN call. I agree in the sense that like the 80s that we have, that's the masses, ADP, so to speak.

There's just not a single running back that I would be drafting at that ADP outside of like Hall and Robinson in the first eight rounds. So I have ETN ranked about a full round behind that in the overall ranks. I do have him ranked at RB6. I don't think I have any issue with where he's ranked about at the running back position there. You did mention that he was inefficient, especially over the latter half of the year in 2023.

But, I mean, I watched a lot of Jaguars games. To me, that office was a mess. They had him doing a lot of things that is not his strength. And I think he is a running back with very defined strengths and weaknesses. He had an extraordinarily efficient 2020 campaign, and I think a slightly more functional version of the offense. And I'm still a big believer in the talent of Travis Eton. My concern coming off last season is what lesson would the coaches take away

after watching some of the results come in? And would he continue to get a similar workload that we need him to have for fantasy where he ends up scoring over 16 points per game last year? And I just don't have any concerns because all they did was re-signed De Ernest Johnson, and they talk about getting Tank Biggsie more involved. But I guess they just haven't watched Tank Biggsby recently enough to remember that he was like the worst football player in the NFL last year. So I don't find myself being particularly concerned about Travis Eton's workload. I think he has a reasonably high for this season.

I want to be betting on this offense. They just picked up his 50-year option. So he's getting over $10 million now in 2025. I don't see him as a very fragile bet. again, I wouldn't make him like my buy or anything either in that version of this game. I still haven't ranked behind his overall ADP, but I do have him ranked ahead of Devon A Chan, just one spot ahead. He is my RB6.

Barclay, I agree with you. I think he's better than his results showed in the Giants last year just because of such a disaster of a situation. I think he'll be much more efficient this year in Philadelphia. All that being said, you're talking about an older running back who at best can maintain his current value. right anything anything negative it goes downhill um so i totally agree with that yeah i mean i'm not going out and buying et n so i agree with that and and same point jacob made like right now in my current ranks like i've got him in the same range as running back but like as far as i got him as my rb eight right now as far as running back rankings go but if you look at superflex ranks

i'm way behind where people are drafting him as well like i've got him at uh 57th overall um there's just i i'm just in super flex on smashing wide receiver tight ends quarterbacks all earlier. I just worry and I said this pre-show like Travis E-T like as much shit as Stefan Diggs got last year about how he fell off. It's like we don't, we don't give Travis E-T in the same kind of stuff. It's like he was the Stefan Diggs of running backs. Like this is not crazy. It's not hyperbolic. It's like weeks one through eight, he was averaging 22.3 touches per game, 106 total yards. He was the RB4 in fantasy. After week nine, 16.3 touches, 10 total yards per game.

He was the RB 22. And I think when we look at this, this offense as a whole, I don't disagree with what Jacob is saying that they were a freaking mess. But I wonder also, are we seeing somewhat of a philosophy change in how they started the year to how they finished the year? Because if you look at also Travis E.T. and scoring opportunities, how he ran so hot with touchdowns, what they also changed from in those two, the tail of two halves was the beginning of the season in the red zone, they were the

seventh most run heavy team in the red zone. That back half of the season when Travis ETN fell off a freaking cliff, they had the 11th highest passing rate in the red zone. So this off season, they went out and they invested more in the passing game. They signed Gabe Davis. They draft Brian Thomas Jr. You still have Kirk. We talked about how we love him. You still got Evan Ingram. Like, are the Jaguar's going to throw a crap ton more? And ETN does his workload, also go down because they're just going to throw more. I think that could be also a function of how this offense operates this year as well as we didn't even talk about the fact the offensive lines not great, especially at run blocking. And they didn't change anything with the offensive

line this off season. So a lot of parts or pieces like I'm not at ETN at cost. And so I don't disagree with anything that's been said here. Also important to note the Jaguars are on a playoff push. and they still limited their Belkow backs role. I think that's not something we should ignore. I think you're right in terms of how their philosophy flip. Usually see an increase post-by week, but maybe they did burn them out in that first half. I don't know, but you're right.

He is somebody, I will say, I am interested in investing in after the draft in leagues that already exist. He is much cheaper to attain in already existing. leagues than he isn't a startup. So that's important to note. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I don't think ETN will put up points.

I think he will like Jacob laid out, especially with the fifth year option. They have the franchise tag. They can definitely go that route with him. And he can be there for two or three more years. He's just cheaper, not in the third round of your draft. Go try and acquire DAC or Drake London and then go and try and trade. for Travis E.TN and you're going to notice a massive price difference. The fact that he's even near DAC is...

Yeah, that's crazy. It sends me to the next millennium because he's bad. My only caveat, it's bad. My only caveat to all this and the reason why I was saying, like, I'm not entirely in agreement because I would never draft him at this ADP is I would bet that like this ADP, the running back ADP is always more favorable and more homeless. type leagues. So to me, because I don't, like, I would bet if people who are watching this show went into a startup this week, I'd be surprised if Dak Prescott isn't going higher in most of those.

Right. And all the rest of these running backs isn't going lower the most of those. But I, I mean, I agree. It's to me, the running back position is Vijon, it's brief and its weight. It is important to note, though, that we cannot like assume everyone's a total degenerate that's done 45 startups this off season two, though. So I think it is important to hit. at that side as well. Okay, players. My guy was Rashad White, by the way. I mean, it's the same thing we've all talked about.

It's basically the Josh Jacobs case on a different team. It's a guy whose entire profiles dependent on volume. Sam Sherman had a great tweet today where he looked at everybody going in the first four rounds of ADP on underdog and their career success rate and rush yards over expectation percentile. Obviously, some of these backs, like Josh Jacobs, for instance, older running back who has more concerned in their recent profile, their career profile looks a little bit better. But Rashad White, every other running back on this list, 60th percentile are better and Rush

Yards over expectation per attempt. Rashad White is at the 19th percentile in that mark in his career. The reality is he's a good receiving back. He's just not a good running back. He's put that on tape for two years in a row. He's put that in numbers for two years in a row. Maybe he's able to still continue in this workhorse role. I do think his ADP assumes that.

and to me kind of only has room to either stay where he is or move down, depending on how that works out. Yeah, I beg agree there. Yeah, I want to push him lower, but like I kind of feel like I'm like how low is too low. Like right now I've got him at, I've moved him anywhere from like RB 11 to RB 16. Like I just, it is not a player that I will trade for.

I'm not enamored. Like if I had him on any rosters, I don't, I would be trading him away emphatically. It's also a similar case where there's just another running back you can get cheaper that is a similar skill set. I am not a big bucky guy. I call him slow boy. It's just what he is.

Did you hear the coach speak though on? They like, oh, they threw wide under the bus. Or like get Pete. Someone was like Bucking Irving. By the bucky Irving, by the way,

probably runs a slower 40 than I do. And they were like, oh, he has the ability to make people miss. And that's something we didn't have. last year. And I was like, yeah,

Bowles was saying he was like, if we, we could get explosive plays and it's something we kind of lacked last year. And I'm like, dude, you just, you just quietly threw Rashad White under the bus when you should be talking about we couldn't do explosive plays because we couldn't block for shit last year.

That was our big problem. Like I'm not, I'm not giving White a pass here, but their offensive line was dreadful instead is dreadful. Yeah. And like it said, RB 51 for B. It's shout out to Dynasty Zoltan.

He's been on this since the draft. Mike has just been absolutely pumping up Bucky so you can still get them pretty cheap. And it's just another one of those bets where he talked damn near exactly like Josh Jacobs, right? Like Jacob laid out. So love that.

It's a lot of bad news for running backs on this program right now. It sucks that it has to be that way. But I'll just quickly, is there a non-runner? running back you want to avoid just quick we don't have to dive deep into it but just so we cannot be the zero rb boys here on this program is there a non quarterback or a running back that anyone can think of offhand let's chambers adp these days i don't know no uh being drafted

is too high yeah i definitely agree with that so i'm underdog that's my problem if you if if if it isn't i'm like as soon as the draft ends my like instant recall in the knowledge of ADP without preparation is all best ball draft. So it's like you give me time to look through the ADP, I can get them with the DITP take. But like the first thing that comes to my mind when someone's like ADP as soon as may, go forward there. Jordan Addison's rookie season was fraudulent.

I'm going to throw that out there. All of his advanced metrics, his targets per outrun, his yards per outrun were all not great. His touchdowns, the fact that he spiked 10 are extremely helping that man out. So as a player that I don't think the The way that I view his rookie season In terms of analytics And where he is probably per the consensus

Like where's he at an ADP I'm throwing out the name and I don't even look at where he's at in this ADP That we're referencing where is he at Jordan Edison Widerceivert 24 round six shit no no way uh uh no No right There's like to mention that there are quite a few of those touchdowns Whose completion rates were were insane Uh it was Nick Mullins airing it out

400 times with target competition being damn near nullified. He had a hard time getting on the field when everyone was healthy. So no, I'm right there with you. He's a big fade for me. Especially he's going to end up being your, you know, two or three or second or throw receiver. And it's not really look, I know Johnny Detroit, we love you, we appreciate

Jamo catching strays. It's just been a running gag for us that his breakout was five catches. And that his big breakout in the playoffs was two touchdowns on three touches and four attempts. Like it's just he's just not somebody I want on my dynasty rosters. I don't disagree with that. I've sold a lot of JMO. Look and changed it this year.

I really, I had a lot of, I drafted a lot of Jameson Williams and I, I cashed almost all of it out. We are going to have Brett Whitefield on the program. It's, it's in the works. And we are going to talk Jameson Williams is.

And I know he's cheap enough that like, we're taking like we're cracking jokes why do you're 50 though still too still too expensive for me for my taste uh we got a game to play here yes that's i believe yes thank you yeah we're absolutely pivoting yes yes yes look normally at this point at this point of the show we pivot to questions not today none no no we have a new game that we are going to play and probably get absolutely smoked by Jacob on because I have not looked at I'm not playing I'm just hosting I can't play yeah we're gonna we're gonna get smoked by the host still feel like I'm gonna get I'm gonna get owned but anyway we haven't looked at

22 ADP in quite a while but we're gonna take our last break here so we can just get through this entire game without a break we're gonna throw our last break right now we come back Jacob is gonna give us the deets on how this game is gonna work and the three of us are going to get absolutely cooked. So we'll be right back. Okay, Jacob, explained us how this is going to work. Okay, that's simple. This is a trivia game based off of mostly 2022 ADP and somewhat 2024 ADP.

So everybody close your ADP windows right now, please. Some of these questions are going to be for everybody. Some of these questions are going to be to one person. That is a I'm going to cheat face right there by Derek. That was the time I'm going to cheat face. Do I have to unhook the camera to show you my other screen? I'm not, oh, man. That's fair and square.

At the end of this game, whoever has the most points wins. Okay. Simple enough? Yep, let's do it. All right. Question one. Today, there are a total. And by the way, I use this with a slightly different filter of the 2024 ADP than I was corrected to use.

I was not going to rewrite all the questions in the pre-show. So if any of these are off, please take that up with, please take that up. support email. All right. Today, there are total running backs in the top 60 picks or five rounds of startups.

Just 10. How many we're going in the top 60 picks in 2022 startups? The way we're going to do this is everybody's going to guess. Closest, if you're the closest, you get two points.

You get an extra bonus point if you get three points. How many running backs were in the top five rounds in 2022 startups? We will start with Derek because he's the guest. I have a question. Closest without going

over or just closest? No, you can, you can go over. It's just closest. All right, not price of right rules, got it. How many running backs that are current? So there's 10 running backs. Let me just make sure that I'm right on this. There's 10 running backs that are currently in the top five rounds.

How many of these were still in the top five or the top five rounds in 2020? No, but you've spoiled a future question. This is just purely, this is just purely how many running backs total number were going in the top five rounds in 2022. Nothing to do with 2024. Okay. The 10 was just a guidepost. Um,

20, 2016. Okay. Okay, Lucas. I'm going to say... I swear to God, don't you... I'm going to say 12. Okay, I'll say 19.

Okay. The correct answer is 15. Derek, you are on the board. Two points. Oh, my God. You'll have to see it. Now, that's probably the only one that I get right. Let's go.

Okay. We did a screen... We need a screen share by a D-Bro. I don't believe that. You also get an additional bonus from getting that question correct, which is then you get to start the next round. Okay. And the way that the next round is going to work is we are going to name all 15 of those running backs.

Oh, yeah. Right now. And it's going to start with Derek as soon as, oh, wait, sorry. I made a mistake. Derek does not get two points for being closest with 15. it was 16 he gets three points he got it exactly i apologize oh my god oh my god he just keeps getting better you nailed it right away i apologize for being anticlimactic i should just i just walk up i don't know i'm not gonna do any better than this i just need to walk up the show now it's just one point for each guy

you got a name the once you make one strike you're out we're going to rotate around so it's going to go derrick and then tom was next closest and then lucas it's going to go derrick then tom then thomas and then lucas it's going to go Derek, then Tom, then Lucas. And once you get one wrong, you're out. You get one point for everyone. You get correct. 2022, top 16 running backs. Go Derek.

Derek Henry. That is correct. Josh Jacobs. That is also correct. Naji Harris. That is definitely correct. CMC. Wait a second.

You said Derek Henry is correct. You said Josh Jacobs. That is not correct. That was before his big 2020. season. So you're out. You had said, who did you say it? You said, Naji Harris. That's correct. Who did you just say, Derek? CMC? You said? CMC. That is correct. So you're at two. Lucas is at one. Tom is already out. Lucas, it's back to you. Based game. I'm going to go with Javante Williams. That's correct. Two, two. Derek. DeAndre Swift.

That is correct. Three, two. Bring it, Lucas. Austin Echler. Correct. 3-3. Joe makes him. Let me just double check. Yes. Yes, that's correct.

Yeah, 3-3. Joe makes him. That is correct. 4-3. Oh, man. All right. Zechial Elliott. That is incorrect.

Oh, no. But Derek, you get to just keep going. There was so many other safer options. Why did you go with Zeke? Yeah, because you're. It was trying to work out. I want to see the Claire and Derek's eyes. Like, wow, why?

Why did you just take the easy answers? Derek, you can run and hide here. There are seven names. There are nine to go and these other two are out. Theoretically, you could still get all nine. Keep going. Jonathan Taylor. That is correct.

That's the RB1, by the way. It took until guest number 11 to identify the RV one. There we go. David Montgomery. That is incorrect. He is the first one out. RB 17. Can I just say, can I just say I was going to go Delvin Cook?

but I pivoted last second to Josh Jacobs. Who are the rest? Who are the rest? Aaron Jones is a three. Derek is at eight. Tom is at zero. So a big starting lead for Derek here. The Reminders, I'm not going to name the Remainers because they might come up at a later point in the proceedings. So let me double check.

Yes. No, they won't be named, so I will name them. The Remainers, the Remainers here that were not said were Delvin Cook. Antonio Gibson Cam Acres Blake, Nick Chubb, Alvin Camara, J.K. Dobbins, and Travis Eastian.

I'm surprised Aaron Jones wasn't in there. That's thing. Okay. He's not in there. Shout out Cam Acres. Oh, my God. 830. Okay. Derek, you were going to get this question no matter what the order was, but you're going to get it right away now to really stretch this out. Okay. Everybody gets their own question now,

each of the three of you. Oh, dear. Six of the 11 top wide receivers in 2022 are still in the top 11 today. That means five are not. Name those five that have since fallen outside of the top 11 in the last two years. You get one point for however many you can name. Oh, dirty. DK Metcalfe?

That's correct. Okay. Is it still on me? It's still like you, baby. Shit. DJ Moore. that is not correct I will give each of the other

two an opportunity to steal Tom you're at last so you get to go first can you steal for one Stefan did only get one that is incorrect Lucas can you steal a point am I the worst you can't steal when you're on mute

Lucas can't figure his mute Lucas is pondering his thoughts right now you can send up the name and smoke signals like a shot look at Lucas you have you have muted yourself. We're going to figure this out here. Just write it. Right on a post.

Right here. Am I here? Yes, you're here. You're with us. I was like, you can read it on a post it. It's fine. Dante Adams.

You said Devante Adams? Devonde Adams is correct. That's a point for Lucas. All right. So Derek is at nine. This is bullshit. Lucas is at four. Tom is at zero.

I will identify the remaining names were T. Higgins, Cooper Cup, and Devo Samuel. Oh. Damn. T was that high. Where was Biggs going in 2022.

Where was his one-a-way? He was one pick away. Oh, he was wide receiver 12. That was after his bad year. He had the big year, and then he had the bad year, and then he had the bounce-back year, and then he had the weird year. Dig's sanity was not with it today.

That's the Diggs chronology. What a contrast. Out of what case. All right. We have the next question, you also Lucas. And it's the same idea. Five of the top 10 tight ends from 2022

are still in the top 10 today. In fact, all five of the top of the top. top five tight ends from 2022 are still in the top five today. Now, that'd be very easy if I was asking you to name those tight ends. I'm asking you to name the other tight ends, the five tight ends, who are no longer in the top 10 today. And it's the same deal. You get up to five points.

If you get one wrong, they get a chance to steal. And if you're watching along with us, by the way, feel free to guess alongside us. Feel free to help them out. They're not in the top 10, correct? These are tight ends that were in the top 10 two years ago and are no longer. uh, Darren Waller. That is correct.

All right. That's going to be, it's going to get rough. Oh my gosh. All right. Oh, that would be. Do you say Cole Commet?

That is incorrect. No. Yeah. Chance to seal goes to Tom. Top, we're looking for top 10, huh? Let's go, uh,

Evan Ingram. That is, that's, that's the opposite. He's in the top 10 now. He wasn't in the top 10. Yeah, yeah,

no, he was coming off the bad, Giants, yours. Yeah. Derek. You can steal. George Kittle lead.

George Kittle is still in the top 10. But he certainly was in the top 10. Then the other names were Dallas Goddard, Pat Breyer-Muth, Dalton Schultz, Dawson, Knott's. John Ford got Friarmoot. That's a- Wow, Dawson Knox was that high?

Brian, was that after the year when he spiked all the touchdowns? Is that it? Yes, it is. Dot, Brian Ford got Mooth and Goddard. So I've chosen to update the standings. The standings now are that Derek is at 9, Lucas is at 5.

Brian Ford is at 2. and Tom is at zero. Brian Ford is currently... Who invited Jacob back? I was doing so well when you weren't here. I thought I was going to hate this game, but I love it. This is the great good news.

Tom, Tom, you get... This is year-round. This is your chance to make a comeback, okay? I'm not. Come on, Tom. Nine points. You got this. He's going to target me.

No, no. You know that's happening. He's going to give you negative points. Come on. Thomas. You got the easiest category here. 14 court, you know the drill by now. 14 quarterbacks went in the top three rounds in 2022.

13 quarterbacks go today. Only five of the 14 from 2022 no longer go in the top three rounds today. Name those five quarterbacks. So the five quarterbacks who dropped out of the top three rounds. Uh, Trey Lance. That's correct. You're on the board. That's a good pick.

Damn, I don't even think about it. to edit in a sarcastic cheer and post after that. D bro, that's all just crying over how many times I drafted him there. Almost caught Brian Ford with that. Okay, okay. I need another quarterback that's not there. I'll say,

who, who, who, top three rounds, top three rounds, it's not there now. Top three rounds, it's not there now.

Who are some oldies book goodies? Two off seasons ago. I'm going to go, uh, I'm going to go on a limb. I don't like maybe I don't like going on a limb this early I have to I have to go for it I'm going to say Russell Wilson that's correct oh let's go let's go okay 20 22 top three round that's not there 22 that's not there my my brain is going haywire uh for someone who's not there oh my gosh I'm so tilted to pick Brian Ford's trying to help me out here in the chat by the way I'll I'll take out

take Deshawn Watson. I'll take to Sean Watson. Correct. I don't, I'm going to take my last kind of deep shot. I don't know if he was a top three pick at the time. Top three round pick. But the last couple years have been a real down swing. I want to say Aaron Rogers. That is incorrect. But you have three points, which is pretty darn good. And Lucas, you get a chance to steal one of the last two names. I think I know one it's going to make me say it Daniel Jones that is not correct no he only hit round four last year oh god I'm gonna hate this I know one of them's probably Justin Freakin Fields I know it that hurt me

is correct I knew you have 10 points Lucas 5 Tom 3 by the way Brian Ford got them all right in order it was Watson and Fields and Stafford um so Ryan Ford is really dominating this group uh he's we're going in in now, two questions left. And this is going to be, name that player. So everybody still has a chance to win because there are two questions left. Each is worth a maximum of five points. So if Derek gets this, he wins.

If either Lucas or Tom gets this, then the game is still in the balance, okay? If I'm going to do, I'm going to give. And he can't give an answer. I'm going to give. I still have paper. sir thank you very much here's how this one silence me buddy

i will be i will be giving a clue one at a time after each clue you have the opportunity to guess you just simply say buzz whoever i hear first buzzes in first i'll give you the opportunity

to guess if you get it after one clue you get five points if you get after two clues four points etc etc down to one points here's the catch if you buzz and get it wrong you cannot guess again until everybody else has buzzed and gotten it wrong. So let's say Tom buzzes in and gets it wrong. Lucas buzzin gets it wrong after the first round.

Derek could also try to buzz or you could pass and then you're the only one that can guess in the next round. So everybody understand the rules here. Yeah, okay, let's go, baby. Okay, clue number one. I got it. This player's 22 ADP of 55 was their highest ADP of any year this decade. their highest ADP this decade. Okay.

No, I'm going to be out on that one. 80p 55. I'll be out. 80p. There was 55 in 2020, you said? Yeah.

Okay. Anybody, Lucas, you got a guess. Otherwise, we're moving to the next clue. Come on, Lucas.

I don't have a trust. Come on. Okay. All right. This player changed teams in the off season after the 2022 season. Okay. Okay. He changed teams.

Four points. he changed teams that off season after 2022. So just to clarify, the year he had his highest ADP at 55 was before the 22 season because it was in that off season. Then he had a season and then he changed teams. Okay, okay, okay, okay, I can vibe, I can vibe. Any guesses?

Three, two. No, no, no, no, no. No one's buzzing in. No. Okay. I'm looking at team names. I'm trying to ignore the chat too. Third clue.

Yeah, I'm not looking at that. This player's team drafted a player at the same position they play at pick 150 in the 2024 NFL draft. Pick 150. Oh my God. So remember if someone wants to guess, I got to say buzz.

With three points. Can I buzz? Yeah, buzz. T. Higgins? Incorrect. Go! But anybody else like the buzz? If you don't buzz,

That means you get guaranteed first guess ahead of Tom next round. Lucas, you're in. Muted. You went on mute. Can't hear you. Jesus Christ, Lucas. This is still. He's saying DJ Moore, but we can't hear him.

Can you put it in the private chat? I don't know who you're saying. He said, I'm going to guess he said DJ more. See, there he is back on mute again. I can unmute you. Oh, he's saying DJ on the private chat. DJ Moore is incorrect. This means Derek, if you want, you can guess now,

and then everybody can guess next round. Or if not, you're guaranteed first guess next round. I'm waiting. You're waiting. You're having a freaking clue right now. Okay, so first guess we'll go to Derek. I'll recap the clues we have so far. 2022 ADP of 55 was their highest of any point this decade.

They changed teams after the 2022 off season. They drafted a player at the same position at pick 150 this year. And they played college football at Fresno State University. Oh, um. Derek is the only one that can guess right now. I mean, is that the only thing, person I'm getting out of Fresno is, is Devante?

But, I mean, is that not high enough? Devante Adams, I guess. Not correct. Tom, Lucas, Lucas, Derek Carr. Tom buses. It's Derek Carr. Yeah.

There you go. That was my other pick. I was going to say it's either car or Adam. Let's go. We're back, baby. I didn't think the ADP was high enough on him. We're back, baby. So that was,

that was the year that Adams had just gotten traded there. He got a big boost up of ADP. All the excitement didn't go well. Spencer Rattler, of course, as the player who got drafted at 150. He plays Fresno. So, Eric Ken, Lucas 5, Tom 5. The unfortunate thing here for Tom and Lucas is that this would mean that they would need to get it with one clue to tie. But the good news for Tom and Lucas is that I've decided to double the points this round.

Yeah, let's go. What is this? What kind of? Which are, what are they? Look at the wizardry is this. Oh, come on. Let's go, baby. This is a fixed ring game.

He's excited to the Celtics. He's, I was fixing to say. This man's too high on vibes right now. I can't. This is, this is, let's go.

Let's go. Clue. Okay, same rules. Clue number one. Well, I mean, same rules. Do you want to change them again? Ha! I do call him flip-flopp-floppy

for a reason, Derek. Jeez, man. Blue number one, this player's ADP of 47 in the 2022 off season was a substantial decrease from their ADP in the previous off season. Buzz. Lucas? DeAndre Swift? Incorrect.

Derek. That's a kid, yes, though. Hell no, I'm not guessing. Okay, okay. From 2021 to 2022 was the Stark drop? Correct. Yeah. 2021 to 2022

was a steep drop okay I'm gonna go I'll go if you guess right now and they're wrong that means automatically wins I'm just going to throw that out there

no he doesn't he doesn't no no no Jacob can change the rules again don't worry that he gets first guess he gets first guess um

you guys have to I'll say Javonte Williams that is incorrect Derek would you like to guess now or would you like to preserve first guess Okay.

So next round, Derek gets first guess. The other two can only guess if Derek gets it wrong. Clue two. This player's ADP is currently 269th overall. Oh. So they were higher in 21 than 22. They were 47 in 2022. They are now 269th.

Oh, sweet hell. Three gas for Derek. Fiz. Um, um, get Lord. Why am I? A lot of good guesses. Dude, I'm like, I'm drawing a massive blank right now. Like, I've got such a brain for it right now.

Does he pass or does he go for it? I'm going to pass, man. I don't know. Okay. He passes. I really don't. So you pass to the next round. So since we're going to the next round,

which is the last one with enough points available that Lucas or Tom could win. Derek locked the guess first. If you guess first, you win. If you don't guess correctly, Or if you pass, Lucas and Tom, you can't pass for two rounds in a row. Lucas and Tom, get the chance to then guess for the win, but you will get the chance to guess first. If everybody gets it wrong, Derek wins,

because there wouldn't be enough points available. Okay, this player's name invokes a name of an imperial unit of measurement. What? An imperial unit of measurement? Only somebody with the metric system at hand would think of this. Only somebody. I should know this as well, but now I'm second guessing everything.

Eric, you get free guess that I thought I knew. If you don't guess or you don't get it right, then they get the chance to guess here. That's name being drafted. Sweet hell. You're drafted highly in 21, fell to 47 and 22,

and their name is an imperial unit of measurement. That is an insane question. That is crazy. You'll know it if you think of the name, but I guess if you don't think of the name then you might not know it. Thanks. Thanks for that.

It helps so much. Wow, that really just, I mean, wow, I absolutely know the name now. Lawyers, I'm telling you. Lucas remit it again, by the way. Okay, he knows this time. Okay. I've got nothing, man.

Like, this is really good. I got, I got nothing. Lucas has got a hand up. He's buzzing in. Lucas for the win. No, that is incorrect. Did you say Bob? Sanders?

Tom, if you get this, you win. If you don't, then Derek gets it no matter what. Okay, okay, okay, okay. We'll win, no matter what. We'll play this question regardless. Oh, my God, a unit of measurement. I'm not going to be able to, I'm not going to be able to think of this. I'm sitting here.

I've been trying to rack my brain. I'm trying to just think of who's 256 right now. It's the same. I'm trying to think of who's very right now. 269. 269, even lower. I've got to say, one of the biggest fall-offs that I've ever seen in fantasy football.

It's Dalvin Cook. It is not Dalvin Cuck. No! All right. So Derek will win this game regardless, but we're going to play us out with this question. This player's breakout performance in their rookie season occurred on Thursday night versus the New England Patriots.

Oh, my God. Dude, you're killing me with these. Is breakout performance was against the New England Patriots? On Thursday night football. killing me with these. Lucas? Is it Kareem Hunt? It's not Kareem Hot.

What do you measure in hunts? I have nothing to lose. What do you measure in Hunts and creams? Like, four creams equal one hunt. Like, what do you?

What? What? What? What are you measuring with over there, Lucas? Like, dude. Oh, my God. No one kilometer. It's enough.

What? This is, this is, is an absolutely insane biobol. Does anybody got to guess or I'll give the last clue? Good Lord. I mean, I'm just trying to find anybody's name like going through the

Rolodex that's a measurement. Like what the hell are we doing here? I can't like that is such an insane question. That's what's throwing me here. I'm like you guys are going to get it when you hear it. All right. Last clue. This player dawned the number three at Florida State University.

You son of a gun. my gosh. Oh, it's Cam Acres, you son of a... Acres. Acres of land. Oh, my God. Oh, what that's... Oh, come on. Oh, that's... Damn, that was really good.

That was very good. I'm sitting here thinking of metric units of measure, and I'm like, dude, there is nobody named kilometers. Like, what are we doing here? He said, well, kilometers is metric. not Imperial. And specifically, I didn't say is a unit. I said invokes a unit of measurement.

I would, I do. I would, I would like to also mention that nothing is ever measured in Kareem's nor hunts. Okay. Just so everybody is where like, we

really like, I know the U.S. educational system is dropped a lot right now, but Luke is like, dude, come on. It's even more fun considering I have a master's in engineering. So that makes that. Oh, my. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Please for the sake of your university, just don't mention where you went to school. We all know it was Tennessee, baby, so don't worry. I mean, it's all over my room. Oh, man. Too B. the great ADP gave.

Derek comes in first place. Lucas is in the second place. I believe Tom and Brian Ford were tied for third. All right. Shout out. Wow. Shout out you and me, Brian. And I owe you an assist on even getting there.

So I'll take forth. Wow. Unbelievable amazing. Oh, man. When you guys had already mentioned camakers earlier in the show, I thought I was, I was so happy. That got me, dude. I'm going to think of it immediately. And then it takes unbelievable.

Look, I want to take a quick break so we can, we can settle down for just a second. But as we wind down here so we can let Derek go and enjoy the, enjoy the rest of his evening. So we don't keep me here for two and a half hours. but respect for you for for hanging i want to get one player from everyone who we think is going to be on the next edition of this game when we play it next time so quick break and then we're going to give who we think is going to be the next trivia question okay okay setting up the next trivia question as we make our way out of here who do we think is going to have a cataclysmic fall from where they are right now.

Since Jacob, you didn't get to play the game, I'm going to ask you first. Oh, you know, the name that I was going to mention before we got some bad news on him today, so maybe he's even going to become a buy. But the name that sticks out is Kyrim Williams to me, where, you know, I'm doing this game. I'm looking at this Rams running back. And we know, we know that there's a double-edged sword of the Sean McVeigh workhorse back, which is, you know, when it's going well, it's going well, when it's going well, when

it's going poorly all of a sudden somebody else is getting that workload somebody else the one to stay on the field i do think that they're going to try and operate with kairn as the lead and i think that they brought in quorum as a way to solve the problem of how do we not have these issues that we've had in the past when we can't rely on one back and we have to make substitutions while not giving kairn 100% of the work i think they go drive by drive or two drives to one drive um but i also now see you know you get this foot injuries three seasons in a row of injury concerns I think the Blake Horm is a pretty impressive player and especially fits what they want to do quite well.

He just strikes me with someone that is high on the index of answer to a trivia question if things go poorly for him. But certainly think he also starts the years the lead back. You never predict falls to ADP of 269. That's crazy. D-Bro, who do you think is going to potentially be the next trivia question. So I'm going to change the rules here like Jacob did.

I would rather go with Meteorque Rise. Okay. Okay. Back to positivity. So yeah, to flip this on its head a little bit, I'm going to throw out Luke McCaffrey here. He has a really easy path to targets this year. I am not an ammer with John Dotson.

Nobody should be. It's been two disappointing seasons in a row. What else is in that offense? have Terry McLorne and a lot of question marks. I love Ben Sennett, but how much does he play? Then you got what, Zach Ertz? Luke McAfrey has an easy path to playing time. He's still coming around as far as a player and a player that I've been higher on the entire process. So when he got the draft capital, he did. And now he lands in Washington. There's a clear path for him to be the number two target in that offense this year. So give me him for the meteor,

New York rise. You don't have to talk me into Luke McAfrey. He was a big deal for me come draft night, and we have been talking about him. I was talking about him with Scott Barrett when he was on our program last as well. He is a big time buy for me. I like that.

I like that you spun it that way. I, however, prefer the negative in this because I find it more fun. Top four round. I'm going Nico Collins. Nico Collins. I talked about him last week as being someone that I want to avoid simply because he's the earliest drafted wide receiver in the Texans room. And I just don't want to bet on that.

His insane breakout season kind of came out of nowhere due to some happenstance. But now we have some legitimate competition in that room, healthy tanked out. We're bringing in digs. Maybe digs is washed. Maybe he's not. maybe some aggression. However, if Nico does not absolutely ball out again, I think his fourth round ADP is going to plummet somewhere into the Keenan Allen range next year. Maybe someone gives him the big contract and all that. I don't know, but I think he's in danger territory

at 18. So he's, that's it for me. Nico, Lucas, give us a head nod or a head shake. Let us know what's up as you're still muted. So we can we can get you involved here for the end. Doesn't look like it, but you know what I'll do? I'm going to tell you, Lucas says he says James Cook, and I'm inclined to agree with that as well.

Running back, shaky situation. Look, love the draft pick that the bills made. I think Ray Davis is a phenomenal player. Might be a better running back overall than James Cook, my opinion, but I'm not that big on James Cook. And yeah, absolutely.

He's one of those guys. But, I mean, he's one injury away from it being jover, jover. He had Toronto Dave called him Nico Bustman. I love that. He's just too high.

He's too damn high. If you ask me, Derek, you are a phenomenal analyst, a great human being. Going to the expo this year? Oh, of course. I'll be there, buddy.

I think we're rolling six or 10 people deep from fantasy pros all going. So yeah, we'll have it rolling deep. It'll be a good time as always, man. I can't wait. Hell yeah. I will see you there, sir.

It'll be nice to catch up in person for sure. First round on me, buddy. Oh, baby. I guess I'm getting second and third after that game. God damn. Hey, love that. Obviously, you do a ton of work over there at fantasy pros. Do you have something specific that you're working on now you're super excited about?

Yeah. Um, right now I'm switching over to best ball and redraft stuff. So this should be out next week. Um, it's really the, the big labor of love. It's my perfect draft article, which will be updated throughout the entire offseason. I walk through every rounds. I literally write up like 60 plus guys for this article. So walking through the, the beginning first few rounds, I'm walking through like the, the middle, uh,

the early middle and later parts of each round, who I'm targeting. you can apply this to redraft, you can apply this to best ball. And again, I'm going to keep updating this throughout the off season as ADPs shift because we know they are. So yeah,

that's really my big labor of love. And then it's just all the things redraft coming from fantasy pros. We're going to have our redraft kit. It's going to be live on June 1st, best ball kit as well. So whether you're in the redraft streets of the best ball streets,

check us out. Man, I love that. Jacob, you always have thinking about thinking you're constantly pushing that. You actually just released something the other day. Let the people know. You took a little break.

Just took a little break after the rookie draft craze, but I'm back with hot bestball summer now. So I have my, I did an introductory article on the 2024 bestball economy, or at least my thoughts on it, how I'm kind of an overarching macro view of how I'm constructing teams within this ADP landscape. And yeah, there will be bestball content, just continually pumping out.

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