Fantasy Football Daily - Must Watch 2024 College Fantasy Football Best Ball Update

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

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This is CFF All Access Show here on Fantasy Points, and I'm joined by my two host, Josh Chevalier and Michael Bainbridge. And this is a pretty exciting show because, hey, what do we like to talk about? Everybody loves ADP. And since we've been doing these Champions League best ball drafts that we have referenced innumerable times on this particular broadcast, we figured that since we're currently in the midst of the fifth draft out of 12, having four drafts under our belt, one every two weeks. That's pretty much a full two months that we can go through

in terms of data to parse. So that will be our show today. We're going to go over ADP risers and fallers. But first, let's talk about Josh Chavallier. First, never got a resolution last week. We need to know, Josh. Why are people who are drafting Archmanning with the expectation that he could compete

and or take over the job from Quinguers, why are they fools, Josh? Why are we fools to think that Josh, that Arch Manning can take over Quinguers for this Texas job? Yeah, I mean, you're not a fool if you're just looking at purely the talent of the players, but I think you've got to take into the context, the coach. And Sark's just not a guy that's pulled triggers very quickly in a past. He likes to stick with his guys when he has them.

And when he trusts a guy, it takes him a long time to trust a guy, but when he does, he sticks with him. I mean, the same thing's true of wide receivers. This guy likes who he's got. And I just think unless Texas completely craps the bed in the first four weeks of the season, that we're just not going to see a bunch of arch. If not for, you know, they'll put them in during garbage time. They're going to play.

They said, I think 80% of their roster over the first four weeks because they want to save their guys for the end. So Arch will certainly get playing time. But Quinn's going to be the guy unless he just can't hit the broad side of the barn, which. You know, we all know that's possible after we saw him miss a ton of deep balls last year. But I think I think Sark trusts him. And I think to read anything else into it is simply just ignoring all of Sark's history, essentially. And I think that's not smart to do.

Well, okay. Well, not smart to do, fair. Fair enough. What do you think is a reasonable range for Quing yours if we're going ADP talk here, given the fact that he looked, Archmanning looked amazing in the spring game. And a second addendum to that question is you're actually in Texas. You live in Texas. What is the policy you're hearing from the Longhorn faithful where you're at in terms of what they want?

Because, I mean, are the natives restless right now? Yeah. I mean, I think Quinn should go in rounds 10 to 15 personally. I mean, he's a guy. I mean, even last year, right, he had a decent number of yards that he threw 4, 34. 3,600, but it's the touchdowns that we're lacking. And I don't know if that's going to change a ton, quite frankly, because I think they really like Jadon Blue, and I think they really like C.J. Baxter.

And I think they're going to run the ball quite a bit. I think Quinn's going to do what he does, which is a game manager type, but I don't see him throwing for 40 touchdowns this year and absolutely exploding. I mean, obviously, again, like Arch Manning would probably be at a better option as a fantasy quarterback, but I just don't see, again, I'm making a switch. And I don't think that Quinn gives us enough on the ground to really serve, you know, as a serviceable CFF player that you're going to depend on, week on, week out for explosive games that we like in CFF. Okay, interesting. Mike, any thoughts on that, my friend? No, when Josh talks Texas or Miami, I just kind of sit back and

listen because outside of Texas fans, nobody knows more about Texas in the space than Josh. And outside of Miami fans, maybe even as much as Miami fans. Nobody knows more about Miami than Josh. So, I don't know, Quinn Ewers, I'm looking at the ADP right now. He's going 13th round where Josh said between 10 and 15 and, you know, QB 29, QB 28, right? I think slotted perfectly. So not a lot of variation, too, of where he's going either. So he's literally going in that range for most of our drafts. I'm personally envisioning the calls to Arch Manning after the week to debacle of Quinewer's not hitting the broad side of the barn, like what Josh said in Ann Arbor.

It's Michigan, week one. So could happen. Mason Graham, anybody? Alex Orgy, anybody? We'll see. We'll see how that goes. I know your boy, Alex Orgy. Yeah.

Well, since we're talking about ADP, and I love to pick on Josh, because Josh, as Mike said, You know, when Josh talks Texas or Miami, he listens. Well, apparently when I talk about Jordan James and Jackson Dart, Josh listens, doesn't he? Because we're in the midst, I believe that eighth or ninth round, ninth round right now, in the fifth Champions League. And I can't help but notice there's Jordan James, who we discussed on this very show, very, very recently as of last week, who I selected in the last two drafts leading up to this at the 41. overall and 37 overall. Now, Josh has taken him at 2.5. What happened, Josh?

What happened, Josh? Did you happen to listen to sage advice from your co-host and decide to implement that in your game plan and steal him from me? Because I expect to get him in the third round now? What happened, Josh? What changed your time? Proton, you are just so brilliant. I mean, how could I not follow the advice of a guy that has won so many best ball championships above me? That's right. Number two, baby. That's right. Me and Zach last year.

If you just had a couple more weeks, you would have beat them. I was right there. I was on his heels. But number two, finished with a nice, a nice $700 payday. I'll take it. I'll take it, Joe. Yeah. I mean, I do say, like what Mike said last week about five catches for 70 yards in that spring game. I mean, spring game was so enlightening. On top of like he was already fifth or six in our projections coming into this year. And he was top 10 of my, my personal rankings and so I moved them up actually in my most recent rankings to six and look Froton when you speak I do listen I mean you are you're incredible at this at this game and so I think

it's fun look we might be all wrong on Jordan James but we'll be all wrong together because he he's he's a talent and he just runs hard I mean he's he's really fun to watch I'm excited to see what he can do. And just knock on wood that Jay Harris doesn't take too many goal line carries from him. What, the guy that runs too upright for you? Yes. Wow, no Jordan Lamar instead. You don't like Lamar?

You'd rather go with Jay Harris on that RV2? Look, so Jaden, man, Jaden Lamar, he, my boy, John Dynasty Coach A on Twitter, he loves Jaden. And so I want to like him too. but yeah, Jay Harris, I think he just has more tools personally. And I like that 6-2-215 build that's just a little bit bigger in running backs. And so, yeah, I would take Jay Harris over Jaden at this point. But that means it very soft.

I think it's actually kind of close, especially if you watch the spring game. Both of them had their moments. Harris appears to be a little bit more built for in between the tackles work, whereas Lamar has more of a home run hitter profile. But I don't know, any thoughts on that, Mike? I don't know. You commented on, you know, Josh going up to go get Jordan James. I think it speaks to you've got to be adaptable in CFF, both out of season and in season, right?

Because you suffer an injury in season. You're not dead in the water with your roster more times than none, right? So you hit the waiver wire and you build that roster back up if you suffer multiple injuries. but there's so many players that's not going to kill your lineup. Out of season, off season, like, you know, you adapt to the news that comes out. And we see Jordan James' usage in the passing game, whether that absolutely translates in season.

It remains to be seen. But you adapt to the news and, you know, bump them up a few spots and, you know, steal them from Froton. And as Josh said, you know, I didn't expect to be channeling Billy Joel, who is touring the United States right now. I saw him at Pecco Park, where Sting opened up for him.

But as Josh said, if he goes down, we all go down together, which is a familiar little song. And we will all go down together. That is us with your All Access podcast. Now, transitioning from that, Shane, yes, I am a softball guy. You could, yes.

These are two my jerseys. And also from carp, right, our boy, carp, golf, and best ball enthusiast. Yeah, this is my Seek and Destroy. Seek and Destroy hockey. This is my deck hockey jersey from when I used to play over at Route 1 in Saugas

in lovely Boston, Massachusetts, where I was a fiscal state-at-home defenseman, had zero puck skills. I was a basketball player, but I love going on the corners and roughen people. But that being said, ADP talk time. Yeah. Hey, actually, I want to ask you some questions

real quick, but before we do, I'm going to take a quick break here, and I'm going to flip the tables here. This Giving Tuesday, Cam H is counting on your support. Together, we can forge a better path for mental health by creating a future where Canadians can get the help they need when they need it, no matter who or where they are. From November 25th to December 2nd, your donation will be doubled. That means every dollar goes twice as far to help build a future where no one's seeking help is left behind. donate today at camh.ca slash giving Tuesday. All right, Froton, you know, before we get into some of this ADP talk,

I just want to ask you, like, who are some guys? Obviously, Jordan James, right, is a guy that's popped up a little bit. That was maybe a little surprise when I took them at 2.5. But who are some guys that have fallen that have surprised you a little bit? And then who are some guys, like a Jordan James, that have rise, that is also surprising you a bit in this draft in Best Ball 5? Oh, okay, I'm sorry. Best Ball 5 in particular. Well, I was very pleased to see Nick Anderson slide to 8-3. Michael took him, I believe it was the 10th round in Best Ball 4 after I think I had him the first two of the first three.

I wanted to get a price check on him. Got to do a price check when you're in the Champions League on these guys every once in a while. Because as you'll see, that's how I think leads to a lot of the movement. Because guys will, you know, you'll see the same person will have the same guy a couple of times. And then you'll see them back off and see where they go. And if they stay in that range, then you know that, all right, I'm in the right. I know where I have to go to get them. If they fall, then that becomes the dance. Yeah.

And we had about a fifth, six ADP on Anderson, fell down on that 10th. I took him in eight three in the recent best ball five because of that. And I think he stays in there. But we know why. You know, it's Dionne Burks, he was in, I believe, the fifth or six last round, last draft, 7-6 for this particular draft. So that Oklahoma wide receiver situation, I think you're going to see them being in that range. Because I do like, as we stated, I like Anderson more in the long term. I do believe he's a legitimate, both of legitimate prospects, but I do cast my lot with him.

If there's anything for this one, that glut of quarterbacks that always, seems to happen in that that six through 10 range it kind of it started a little earlier you know and you started it frankly with taking jackson dart at 58 we then see haynes king go at 512 i saw the writing on the wall took nico at 6 3 i had him queued up man i had him cute up next grade yes um that is something i think really you know we notice is a kind of of a shift where people were kind of picking their spots when to go with those QBs. If you didn't go in six or seven or even you could say early eight with Zach going Stone, 7-11 and 8, Ward 8-2, then you missed out on the top 15 to 20, you know, that hard,

solid one, one-and-a-half tier of quarterbacks. Yeah. And, you know, outside, I've done three or four best balls since our last champion before. And Dionne Berks has gone like rounds five, six. And then yeah, Nick Anderson's falling to like 10, 11. I've been scooping them up and everyone. And so, you know, and ours, like we're going to be more aggressive to get our guys, right? So we're going to go 7 and 8 for Anderson.

But in other best balls, you can get them in the 10th round right now. And it is amazing value. Here's another question here. I want to ask both of you guys. And Frotan, maybe you can start on this one because I know you love Denzel Boston up there at Washington. He just had an incredible spring game, went seven for 127 and a touchdown. And so Hunter, I think, is who Shane is referring to. Are we going Boston over Hunter as a wide receiver one after the spring game performance?

I want to hear from both of you, but Proton, if you want to go first on this and then might give us your opinion. Well, you remember Boston's been in that room for longer than Hunter has. He's coming from the outside Cal coming in. and he was a guy that I made, and I think Michael had some shares of too. I really, he was a initial line All-American on the player props for the season-long stuff. I believe we got, did we get a 950 open on Jeremiah Hunter? 850 to 900, I think, yeah. Okay, it was a 900 open.

Around that region. It was like 899. It was 9. Got down 850, and that was a nice comfortable win there. for us and I parlayed him in multiple different spots. So right off the gate, you know, I appreciate Jeremiah Hunter. Don't get me wrong. That being said, with Boston, we heard a lot of ramblings about him last offseason.

This isn't something that is a one-off from the spring game. He has priors. We heard about him in fall camp, said this Denzel Boston kid is next. He's a full-grown man, ready to go. but he has to work in behind three NFL top four round caliber wide receivers. You have a top 10. You have a top 35 in Polk. You have a top 100.

I believe he's around that hundred, maybe a little above it for McMillan. Maybe he's 110, 115. So just an absolute comedy of talent in that room. Okay, he had to do his time. So it's not like it's a ding. you didn't get in. Giles Jackson was the nominal number four who would really work in. But look, you saw what reality was once Boston got out there. And we saw what Brennan intends to, excuse me not Brennan, Fitch, JetFish intends to do with him over there in Washington,

which was ply him with targets. He's, I mean, his body control is there, made, made nice catches at the third level, the second level, gave him a manufactured touch. It's like we saw a pretty wide route tree and he won both with the ball in his hands and at the catch point. I think it was just a sensational performance that built on everything good that we heard in the 23 fall camp. I personally, I like what I saw from him. And I kind of think that especially at ADP, he wasn't drafted in any of the first three.

Zach took him in, and I want to say like the 270's last draft, here we are. I'm going to be targeting him in round 15 to 20. Like he is going to go from undrafted to, I think, the late teens. And I like him more than Hunter. And Hunter's going in round 8, 9. I mean, I can't help it. I'm not a hunter guy. Yeah.

And real quick before you answer, Mike, one of the things about Boston and that game in the spring game that was incredible was his ability to fight off a press coverage and use his hands. And then to create separation, I was, you know, just jumped. out and that never jumps out on tape to me really but just his ability to do that and then creating two or three yards of separation on his deep routes i was like man he doesn't even look that fast i know he runs a four four but he's kind of a long strider but he's fluid he's fluid his movements and the body control he made some you know he's he's contorting to you know he's

run in one way contorting to the opposite way and catching it you saw a couple of those and man i mean that's what running is one thing but adjusting I mean, everything, ball control. I was extremely impressed. So I have a hard time. It has to dang Hunter, you know, because it's not like, it's not like I'm chasing down Washington, heading into the Big Ten, post-Kalind DeBore and Ryan Grubb, you know, like, look at the factors we have in play here.

Total changeover staffs. Incomes Will Rogers from Mississippi State. This, again, and that's, there's just a lot of things headwinds that we're. Washington has with pre-scheduled, the tougher schedule, the Big Ten, all these things. I can't expect the level of chemistry we saw from the unit they had last year. You can't project that. This is a different team in a much tougher league. I'm not going after Washington wide receivers.

I need to get a good deal on them. I feel like late teens, early 20s for Boston, and probably around the same thing. I think they're probably about either. Yeah. Mike, what do you think, man? I've already made the switch to Boston as wide receiver one. I guess to piggyback off that point, you obviously got a raw deal for Jeremy Hunter drafters drafting them top six to ten rounds most likely.

But when you look back, Jetfish back in Arizona, the wide receiver two got 100 targets the last two years, right? Over like close to 25% target share for the wide receiver two there. So I don't think Jeremiah Hunter's drafters, you're dead in the water here. I think he can still be, you know, an adequate wide receiver on your roster and probably give you a few weeks. And let's be honest here. While, you know, I've made the switch to Boston as wide receiver one, he looks like

the wide receiver won in the spring game. Nothing's in stone at this point, right? It could still end up being Jeremiah Hunter. So I think there is hope that Hunter still has value because of the. the system and how the wide receiver two is done. I know they added Washington, Kevin Green Jr. from Arizona to add some depth

to that roster. But let's be honest, besides Boston and Hunter, you got a journeyman and Giles Jackson who really hasn't done anything in his career. Kevin Green just a slock guy. Kevin Green hasn't produced up to this point. Some like them, I know. But like beyond those top two,

there's not a lot of proven commodities in that room. So if Washington's throwing the ball with Royal Rogers, it's going to most likely go in those two directions. So I don't think all hope is lost for Jeremiah Hunter. Yeah. And I will say Zach wanted me to bring this up because he wasn't going to be on the show tonight, that Jeremiah Hunter in the scrimmage before had three touchdown catches. And so, again, it's not like he's a complete loss. I think what you said, Froton, they can be pretty even.

I've made the switch to Denzel Boston as a wide receiver one. I will tell you two things, Froton. One, you're on the clock in the champion series, best ball five. And two, I just took Denzel Boston in round 11 and a draft. So if you want to get them, you better get them right here. I don't know if I'll draft. I'm dismissed. Well, I did take him.

Actually, round 11. I do appreciate the heads up. Hunter just went 8-1 for the record, 8-1 to Greg Brandt there. So he isn't phased by this news. but hey, you know, that's why CFF is great. You know, it's like you hear the, it's best ball mania right now. I sent a little heads up to fan tracks. I'm like, hey, we need to have CF.

Anyways, right now when you hear them like, oh, I got this guy at a round above ADP. And I'm just like, guys, you don't even know what you're talking about. Oh, there's this ADB. They're all so close because it's 32 teams. I'm like, you want to talk about getting guys above and below ADP. Take a seat. Come on down.

sit under the learning tree. Anyways, yeah, I mean, I'm on the clock. Thanks, John. Yeah. And, you know, I think one thing, like you said, I think it was you, Frotan, I just talked about, hey, you're not, there's some question marks at quarterback. And I think that's very key. I've been listening to since the spring game and trying to make this decision on whether

to switch Boston to wide receiver one. I've been intaking a lot of Washington information and podcasts. And one of the things they talked about is they all love DeMond Williams there at Washington. He had a nice little spring game too. Absolutely. Yeah. Really fast. Mobile. Like throwing from different angles, you know, out of off platform, out of structure. He was creative.

You know, I liked what I saw. And he was a high recruit too. And if Washington struggles out of the gate, if they go two and three, one and four, like they might bench Rogers and throw DeMond Williams there and then play for the future because they absolutely think he's the guy. And so if they do that, he is more of a runner right now than he has a passer. So that would hurt these wide receivers, in my opinion.

I do think, you know, say what you want about Rogers, but he can throw a ball that's catchable to both of these guys. And so that is one thing to be weary about in drafting these guys, you know, either one of them high. It hasn't stopped me a ton. And also pick up to Mon Williams and Dynasty. you will not be disappointed. That guy is going to be unbelievable in Jeddfish's system

if fish sticks around. So, hey, we're going to switch some gears here in a minute. We're going to take a break, and then I'm going to ask these guys about some other ADP risers and fallers. When you're flying Emirates business class, enjoying a good night's rest in your lie flat seat, you'll see that your vacation isn't really over

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He just transferred there after flirting with Kentucky a little bit to UCF. so he joined RJ Harvey in the back field. And so we've seen that effect all of us, you know, passing on at least for the first three rounds. But what are you guys, what is your take on Harvey? What are you guys doing with them in your rankings? Are you going to, where would you draft them if you were going to draft them? Yeah, what are you guys thinking? Mike, why don't you go first on this and then, and then Froton, you know, go after him?

I am comfortable having R.J. Harvey in my time. top 20 still. But obviously that's, I would, I guess I wouldn't say a significant drop, but it is a drop from consensus most time first round, CFF draft selection. So like, I don't know. I think obviously R.J. Harvey is better than Penn, but you can't not adjust your projections, your rankings because of this Penny Boone news, because he is obviously, they brought him in for a reason. he's going to get carries in that backfield.

And also, to be honest, I kind of think this thing's KJ Jefferson slightly, right? Now you've got three guys that are definitely going to get red zone opportunities now, as opposed to, in my opinion, what was going to be just Jefferson and RJ Harvey. So I still have been in the top 20. I think top five rounds for RJ Harvey is still in a decent range for them. We obviously know, like UCF is going to run the ball 40% of it. 60% of the time, excuse me, under Gus Malzhan. So this is still typically a run heavy offense.

So it takes a dip, probably fourth to fifth round as opposed to the first round for me. Yeah. When it comes to Harvey, you know, you just look at what the skill sets are of the respective backs in there. All right. So with Harvey last year, 226 rushes, 14-16 yards, 16. touchdowns caught 19 of 22 passes for 238 and 2 all right so 18 total touchdowns 16 50 roughly yards right so 226 rushes is a lot of rushes for a guy who's built at 58195 you throw in incomes boom right last year 194 average 7.2 yards for carry you had 1,400 yards so same amount of rushing yards with 40 less 30 less

carries caught 15 of 18 passes for 216 and a touch too so he was actually better in terms of yards per route basis so when i'm looking and i'm projecting harvey you know 226 well how many does he seed i think it's pretty reasonable if we're looking for a comp you can go right to harvey's 22 149 rushes that's 77 less than this year i think that's pretty reasonable right 790 yards, that's at 6.8 yards of carry, you know, for 1449 rushes. Five touchdowns, right? So he wasn't used as a hammer in any way, shape, or form in 22. He's not built that way.

He's more of a run-the-day-type guy and break it. Five touchdowns in the ground in 2022, that's concerned, 22 of 27-215 through the air. But, I mean, look, a lot of his production was volume-based in a Gus Malzon offense with lack of really a better alternative. 20 carries in five of his last six games. Is that happening? Is that volume happening? You know what I mean?

It was benefited by three yards before contact. It's an excellent from that UCF line. You know, a lot of guys don't get that. I just look at it and think Harvey, he's back to be a committee back now. He's going to be at best a 1A, at, you know, most likely a straight share. Worst case scenario, Boone goes and just starts pounding in touchdowns,

and they give them the Isaiah Bauer treat, Isaiah Bowser treatment. So I think it's a catastrophe, frankly. What, I mean, you know, Mike, you're saying, what, four or five now? I don't think so. I think it's eight, nine, ten. I think it's right now where I'm picking at the nine, nine, ten. that's where I think it's time with Penny Boone going over there. Because Michael, you know, we talked about Penny Boone three years ago where he was, you know, at Maryland,

and I didn't like him. We're trying to project the Maryland backfield. And I purposely, everybody was drafted him, and I didn't draft Penny Boone because he was way too heavy. He was like 260 pounds at that point. And I'm like, this guy should be, you know, an H-back fullback. He can't run. trims down. Everything changes.

You know, he lightens up and he still keeps the power and his feet are just way more nimble. You can make guys miss now. He's a different guy than he was at that point. Like, he changed his body at Toledo and it shows I'm concerned. So they had the committee in 2022 and Bowser finished as RB 39.

So is that worth a fourth to, fourth to pick fourth round to fifth round pick i guess you could say probably not right probably in the closer to the eight nine 10th round range so our good argument but i don't know is is penny boon in that realm of r j harvey in my opinion plus this is r j harvey's final year what happens when he doesn't get 18 touchdowns again and instead he gets at least 60 carry siphoned off yeah what's that that's that's my position on it so r j harvey there we are I haven't drafted them in the champions yet. I haven't either.

Josh, Josh, he goes and replaces RJ Harvey in the second round, which he took in league four, and now he's taking my Jordan James. I see you, Josh. You can't think. You know, and here's the thing, man. I hate RJ Harvey. And I hated him for this entire offseason.

And yet he, like, fell. And I was like, okay, he's got some value in the second round, you know, falls to me. And now I'm just like hating why. hating life now. And just like, I, it's nothing worse than drafting a guy you don't even like. And then you get punished for it. I drafted Penny Boone and best ball three.

And I don't even like him. Like, it's like two guys that I just never go after. And it just happened in these three or these four. I'm marketing. Yeah. I'm hating life, man. I haven't done a deep dive into this. But I am really curious as to how many running backs.

get that consistent 200-carry season, like back-to-back. Like, the best example that I can think of, and this is, I don't know, I wasn't planning on talking about this, but Marquez-Cooper is going for, what, four straight 200-carry seasons? Like, that's unheard of in college football these days. And I don't think it happens a lot with back-to-back 200-plus kerosens, right? So I don't know. That's just a thought here, right?

This doesn't happen too often. And, you know, do these guys want to put that kind of wear and tear on their bodies when they have potentially an NFL future? Please. I'm not worried about the NFL future of R.J. Harvey at a buck 90. You read my mind, Froton. You read my mind. I've got another question for you, Frotan. I'm going to transition here a little bit to Justice Haynes.

I mean, he's a guy that early on in these best balls, you are taking them, I think pretty early rounds four, maybe five. And now, you know, I don't, I'm guessing since the spring game, he's dropped a bit a little bit, dropped around nine. I think he's maybe still on the board right for us. So I just want to hear from you, you know, what are you doing with Justice Haynes right now in his fall? Is you still think he's the guy in the backfield?

Are you questioning? Yeah. What are your thoughts? Yes. That being said, I think it's obviously a reaction to the spring game where Jam Miller had some nice moments. They, you know, shared work. We've seen a propensity for Kalen DeBore to have a bit of a committee approach. But, hey, I mean, we looked at Ronnie Rivers. You know, when he was in Kalen DeBore's offense at Fresno State, we saw what happened last year with Dylan Johnson. You picked the best guy.

I know Justice Haynes is the best back in that backfield. I can tell you why. All right. He didn't, through freshman last year, he didn't have enough exposure. You know, he played in six games. Had more over the last three games. You know, he had about 30, excuse me, I think he had 18 carries, but 25 for the year, 25 carries, 168 yards, 6.7 yards per carry, two touchdowns. 80th percentile rush grade, 3.8 yards after contact, 91 elucing.

from this grade. Good. Fine. Totally fine. First year numbers. That's solid. Just from a grade standpoint. And he's young.

You go to Jam Miller. Okay. This is year two for Jam Miller last year. 41 carries 201 yards. Okay. It should be 4.9 yards per carry. Are you kidding me? He can't average five yards per carry behind the Alabama offensive line.

delightful. Okay, let's go to his advanced numbers when he has to dodge tackles. 2.9 yards after contact. If you're under three yards after contact, you are in the bottom 20th percentile of FBS rushers from a breaking tackle standpoint. That is a terrible, terrible mark. 71.5 elusiveness rating. That's a full 20 Bips below Justice Haynes and a 69th percentile overall grade. I watched the game. I watched it up and down. Justice Haynes is the guy. I let him, I took him like the fifth round, I think twice, right around that.

Let him fall, did the price check. He didn't get taken in the same spot. I took Jam Miller as well in like the 23rd. Problem is people have taken Jam Miller really early. Like he's been a guy who's had a rise, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know. Try to pull it up as I'm talking here. but we've seen him over the past couple, you know, get a premium.

I drafted him at 241, last draft 212. So, you know, I think it's getting closer. At least that's a perception. That's not my personal feeling. I will continue to be targeting Justice Haynes, especially if I can get him in that 9, 10, 11 range, which is where it seems like he could end up settling in. I love it.

I'm not afraid of Jam Miller, but I'm okay with taking Jim Miller at that 26, 27 to hedge just in case because it's a premium backfield situation. Yeah, let me ask you this, Proton. I love Justice Haines. I'm right there with you on him and everything you said. You know, he had a shoulder injury coming out of the spring game, and it seems like he gets nicked up quite a bit. And does that, it can, I'll say this. It concerns me a little bit. talk me off the ledge and tell me I shouldn't be concerned about him getting these nicks and

injuries in it, setting him back. Because he's a premier running back other than that, in my opinion. Yeah, well, I'm a little upset with our co-host, Zach, who couldn't show up for work today. But he found time to somehow take Justice Haynes after I took Caden Fegan at 9-10 on the bounce back. And he's right there before me. Somehow, literally right now I'm on the clock. Pick the for him. He took Justice Haynes at the 10, too.

He's listening to you. I'm watching. he's listening. I can't show off of work, but he can anyways, prick. Yeah, I'm not guys are going to get banged up. I know he did have, you know, a little ailment that took away

a little bit of the middle of the season. You know, he returned to finish strong at the end, but the talent's there. I mean, I believe in Justice Haynes. I think he's a legitimate prospect. I think he will be a top five NFL running back taken in the draft.

He'll be one of those top first five in the 2026 class. I believe that. And if he's a little dinged up, he's a little dinged up. But 10-2, where Zach just got him, I mean, that's just astounding. That's just a phenomenal value. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I want to stick with Bama real quick and ask you guys this question.

You know, Shane asked, is Bernard still a wide receiver one for Bama? What do you guys think? Is he your wide receiver one in Alabama right now? Who else? Who else? that that might be question. Are they still in on Elijah Badger anymore? Or was that even a thing at this point?

I think it's down to like Florida and somebody else, right? Who else? I would think Prentice. Prentice is probably the other starter. The moment of starters are in. Yeah. As long as the roster stays as it is, yes. He's still wide receiver one for me.

I also think his skill set fits really well with Jalen Melro. As far as he's a run after the catch guy. And I think he's going to give a lot of leeway. for Jalen Milrow in that area. So I was super impressed. I mean, I've always been super impressed by Bernard, but I thought his spring game was really fun to watch and very affirming in that way.

So let me ask you guys about another guy. Mike, you drafted Mario Anderson this last draft in Best Ball 5 at, I think the third round and the first pick of the third round, if I'm not mistaken. I think before that he was going around round five. And so talk to us a little bit about why you chose to cause his 80 feet rise and piss me off. Why would that piss you off? Because you always do it.

I tell you not to make for 80 feet of rise and you do it. You just go out and get your guys, man. I mean, look, he had the monster spring game, obviously, and that's part of it, right? I think the first play of the spring game, he had a 43-yard reception. You know, he had a rushing touchdown. So I think for first and foremost, this is kind of a proven system at this point, right? Offensive coordinator Tim Cramsey. You know, it's a balanced-ish offense, but typically features one running back.

And I mean, you look at the last three years, he's had to produce two top five college fancy running backs, right? That's what we want to see in an offensive system. Mari Anderson, you know, had what, seven, 800 yards last season at South Carolina. he proved last season that he is a capable pass catcher out of the backfield, 22 receptions on 28 targets. I know he crushed me in Proton's heart a few times on his receiving props, but he's proven capable. I don't think he's not a Blake Watson-esque receiver out of the backfield,

but, you know, very capable in that area. I think the one thorn in the side of Mario Anderson, is that Brandon Thomas is still around, and he had a rushing touchdown on 20% of his carries. He only had 46 carries last season and nine rushing touchdowns. He's still around. So, you know, I just think you get a definite running back one here in an offense that is going to be very good.

I know they're top 30 in offensive returning production. And, you know, especially in PPR formats, this is a system that is proven to feature their, they're running back one in the passing game. So, yeah, I'm in on Mario Anderson. I have a RB8 right now in my ranking. Yeah, Frotan, where are you at with Anderson? Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's hard not to like the Memphis offense in general, just how they have operated over the last decade plus. I mean, they crank out fantasy production. they hire from within. Silverfield, former offensive line coach there, just keeping it rolling with Johns. I mean, Hennigan back, Rock Taylor back, Blankham C back. It's a fully formed unit, very projectable.

If there's anything that we value in these earlier or the premium rounds, it's just I want to know what I'm getting out of you. You know you're getting a potent offense. You know, you could check that box. You're getting it. They're going to be an alpha in the AAC. Anderson very productive. Maybe Thomas is an issue, but I feel like he had his turn, you know, and they tossed him to the back.

He could have been the RB1, and he hasn't had the opportunity to do it. He hasn't rested from any way. He hasn't grabbed the brass ring. So I'm team Anderson as well. It's a logical climb. Yeah. I mean, I think Anderson, yeah, he's going to be a stud in this offense. I mean, you see what he did in the spring game.

He's a guy that I think we just. for me personally, I just wanted some affirmation from our confirmation from Springball that he was taking the reins in that backfield. And I think it's clear coming out of the spring game, what other people are saying about him, that he's the guy. Oh, we got a comment in the chat. Zach, he is here. He did snipe you for a time.

He literally took it right before me, literally right before me. I had to take Jake printing stool, so I'm a stoolie. Fine. Dude, I love that. So good. Okay. Well, it's fun to see where everybody's at on Anderson. Hey, I have a couple more guys.

I want to ask you guys about as far as ADP, and then I get some closing thoughts on, man, we've now done four best balls. We're in our fifth. You know, what's changed in our mind from this conversation from the last month? But I want to take one last break and then we'll get into that last conversation. Ontario, the weight is over. The gold standard of online casinos has arrived. Golden Nugget Online Casino is live, bringing Vegas-style excitement and a world-class gaming

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wide receivers here. The first one is Evan Stewart and Froton. I want to ask you about him. He just fell in our last best ball to round three. I got him at the middle to end of round three, but he had been going, you know, round one, round two. And so your thoughts on Evan Stewart, should he be falling to wide receiver 14 and round three?

Like, is that too far for him? Where do you think is a proper range for Evan Stewart? at this point. Yeah, I mean, it's, we're figuring out this board. And especially as mentioned, where you're going through and watching some of these spring games and just looking at team tendencies with, you know, Stewart, we're expecting him to fill in, obviously, the Troy Franklin role. And it makes a lot of sense.

And I, I have drafted him and certainly advocate that it's a safe, high floor option here in the Oregon offense. and a lot of wide receiver drafting is avoiding just simply bad performance at the top, just certainty, the ability to bank on, I feel good about Evan Stewart at, you know, 65, 70, a thousand and, you know, nine, call it. You don't get to that 10. You get nine at least. You know, I feel like that's a pretty bankable season for him.

But look at his numbers. It's hard to justify taking Stewart. over Tess Johnson, seeing how it's already been done, he's already fit in there. You already know he's going to be that dangerous, slippery, just lethal slot where he's just gashing you by a thousand cuts. It's going to get huge volume. The system is plug and play. They've got Phil Knight money.

They bring in the talent. I mean, everything's there again. With Stewart, you got to remember, you know, obviously it was just a disaster with Connor Wigman getting hurt and then Max Johnson can't throw outside the numbers and because of that Michael and I targeted Evan Stewart and frankly Texas A&M receivers a lot in our props because show me he had these astronomical week after week prop numbers like in the high 80s you know and it's like man this even if he gets the volume they just can't complete the passes Max Johnson so it hurts his productivity and then you look at

that, you know, with his productivity on contested catches, I mean, four of 12 last year on 59 targets, 12 of them were contested. And when you have poor quarterback play, it makes it that much more difficult when you don't have the elite separation to be able to make those plays on the ball. Didn't break a single tackle last year in 38 receptions. Again, I know he was banged up a little bit too, because definitely there was an element to Stewart working through some bumps and grinds. Could have played maybe. Could have played maybe through those injuries.

Yeah, you know, it's fair. It's fair. There's definitely speculation. And it was the Jimbo regime. There was a complete catastrophe there. All those factors, they're in his favor where it's like, yeah, this explains a lot. I've been said, you don't 10% drop rate last year. 15% drop rate the year before.

Would like to see that be a little bit better. He cashed in his deep catches. at the very least, 43% catch rate. That's a top 10 mark amongst returning wideouts. So these are the things that you look at with the point, counterpoint for Stewart. But given the overwhelming pedigree, the five-star talent, he did have a pretty darn good freshman year in spite of, again,

injuries and just ineffective play calling, going to a premium system where it's a plug-in play. You know where you're getting out of them. It's hard not to like them. but you know exactly you're getting out of Tess Johnson. There's no jury in Dickie looking over Tess Johnson's shoulder. You know what I mean? There's going to be a jury on Dickey working in behind or alongside Stewart and Treshaun Holden.

So that's how I feel about Evan Stewart. I think it's probably justified. I was a little probably bullish on him earlier, took a more sober look. I think late too is fair. because you still got to bake in the certainty of the system, of the legacy, and where he plugs into that premium X role in the Oregon offense. Bainbridge, your thoughts? No, just echo that I like the certainty of Tess Johnson.

And I was just kind of looking back, and I don't know the intricacies of football enough. But I thought it was curious that I think three of the four seasons that Dylan Gabriel has played quarterback, that his wide receiver one has been a slot guy. Maybe something to that. Maybe not. Just throwing that one out there. So I thought that was kind of interesting, which obviously would be in favor of Ted's Johnson there.

Yeah, that's really good. Hey, speaking of a guy that's played in the slot a little bit, we got Eugene Trey Wilson. He's a guy that I want to talk about with you guys. I mean, he's a guy that early on in our best balls. Oh, sore spot. Soar spot with me on this one. Hey, well, we're going to talk about this.

Round six early on. And he's now up to, around three. I don't even know. Who took him early on? I don't know. Nobody on this podcast. Oh, what? I can't believe you, Michael. You're going to take him from me, too?

Can I have Eugene Wilson? So I said adaptability. Adaptability's key in college family. I knew you were going to take him. You were on the... Oh, you know what I was going to take him? Why? Yeah. Because I had him at 64 and 2. I had him at 65 in 3. And then Michael comes in in best ball 4.

After I take him at 64, 65 takes him at 33. So I will explain. I was ready to take him at my next pick after you. I was taking him at that next pick. And you weren't having it, Bainbridge. Damn you. This is how you win best balls. Damn you.

This is how you win best balls and piss off your friends. There you go. Bainbridge. Tell us about Trey Wilson, man. Why did you, why'd you snipe Froton? Well, I mean, again, it's kind of the same Jordan James factor, right? Obviously, the spring game sticks out. Eight catches, 128 yards.

It's really that Billy Napier quote of like, hey, we are going to feed this guy. I wrote down the exact quote here, but he insinuated that, right? We're going to get this guy the ball and we're going to get our money's worth. I think that's what. And I don't know the situation with the Chimiri D.K. the Wisconsin transfer. I know they're in on Elijah Badger. If they don't get him, I'm even more interested in Eugene Wilson,

just because it seems like that wide receiver room is lacking beyond that. And I was just kind of looking back. And I know when you talk Billy Napier, you kind of think like, you know, run heavy, you know, run heavy coach usually uses a running back by committee. But you kind of look bad at his wide receiver production. bad at Louisiana, but when he was calling plays at Arizona State, you know, he had in Kielherry had close to 30 percent target share that year. I had 120 targets in 13 games. I think he finished as a top 20 receiver, maybe close to top 10. I don't have that offhand, but, you know, he has at

least once in the past, probably multiple times produced a top level receiver like that. And, you know, this is kind of the hypothetical talking point. But let's be. honest, if you want to keep a guy like Trey Wilson around, not only are you going to have to, you know, fork over the funds to keep him around and get your money's worth, but like, you're going to have to feed this guy.

So, you know, I believe Napier when he says we're going to feature this guy early and often. I guess my point and I think Eric will probably speak to this too is that the very low A dot and the very low yards per catch average would be the concern of drafting him this

high. I would say definitely in a half point to full point PPR format, you can go up and take in that high. Non-PPR, for anybody that plays that still, you know, probably wouldn't go up to the third round to get him. But full-point PPR, I think third round, you're justified in taking him that early. Who would you rather have as a 2026 NFL draft eligible wide out than Eugene Wilson? Josh, I can't speak to Debbie. Yeah, not much.

I mean, I just put them up to my wider, my wide receiver six overall in Debbie this last week. I mean, here's for me, you spoke to ADOT, Mike. And that spring game, he was catching bombs. And I think it was Ricky Pearsall's presence that made them, you know, more feature him underneath. And now that Pearsall's gone, I think that Trey Wilson is going to have any role he wants in that had all. offense and he is unbelievable. I had questions about whether he could go deep. He answered those and more in the spring game. And you see it on his tape as well from high school. So for a time, I'll let you take it from here, but I want to say that because I don't have those concerns anymore

about ADOT. And, you know, with what he's currently doing. Yeah, he's my number one from that 26th class. I think he's absolutely ridiculous. And the NFL is just going to fall in love with him. And we're going to be treated to in two years. All the NFL guys are going to be jockeying over who's first on Trey Wilson, and we're all going to sit there and have to vomit our way through it again. By the time NFL draft season is over, I'm ready for NFL draft season. We know you'll let them know about it, Eric. I haven't done.

I can't even do that anymore. I just want them to play. Just play. Hey, show me. Yeah. How insane? How insane is that 80%, 86%? percent catch rate on 70 targets and zero drop.

And if you want, some of the catches too. Oh my gosh. He's so good. Everything. Like you said, the complete package, you know, it's, and things you don't want guys who are 6-4 and 6-5, like that isn't the prototype. It's not Julio Jones anymore. Like, he's, he's everything you want.

He's, he's the right size. He's, I'm in. I'm so in. I'm the one who's been in. Welcome. Well, what's maddening about? last year with him. I mean, remember that Georgia, like, first series that he had when just dominated and then outran everybody to end zone. And then they just didn't even feature him the

rest of the game. They did that to him several times last year. And again, I think Pierceall being gone is going to change all of that. And I, you know, I love the quote that you gave by Napier. Mike. And, man, when he gets 11, 12 targets a game and he starts getting downfield shots, I mean, he could end up a top five wide receiver. I put him in my wide receiver 9 in CFF right now. I think we all probably have in our top 10 at this point. So yeah, he's going to be super fun to watch and to have shares of in CFF. He's definitely a guy that I don't think he's going to be making it out of the third round much anymore in drafts after that performance for sure. Justifiably. Yeah. Hey, so before we get out of here, I want to hear, you know, again, we're in our fifth best ball.

I mean, we're 10 rounds in. There are 30 rounds total in those best balls. And so we're a good, good chunk through a third of those 12. Are you guys, you know, after this conversation over the last month, anything changing for you guys as far as your strategies or people you like? I mean, we talked about some guys tonight. But anybody that we didn't hit on that you guys want to talk about or strategies that you want to talk about that we didn't.

I didn't ask the question earlier. Take this one, Eric. I'm on the clock. It pains me to see the Jordan Moore assent from Duke. I was hoping he'd get back to me. He just went 10-7. What did Moore start at?

You know, like, where was his starting point? I'm dying to see that. Oh. And where is he now? Nobody. I'll tell you. His ADP right now is 164. That's laughable.

That's, it goes, well you know it goes a guy i really like then it goes more mario williams carnell tate decorian clark like are you kidding me that's the crew that he is he is in the class of of apdp no longer uh started out at 161 then when mike took him at 182 went 138 last draft to k kyle francis i I think this is around what one around that right here? Maybe a little under 120. Man, noticeable rise. I mean, one of the true big risers going from 182 to there.

And I think he's going to have a major impact over there at Duke. I love that call. That's a really cool. I'm just looking at right here that just stuck out where I'm like, damn, and I was hoping to get back to me. I was hoping I could play the game. Like, all right, I'll wait on Jordan More will come back to me. Yeah.

Mike, anybody for you or any thoughts about the drafts so far? We've kind of talked about it. I really, I am fine with passing on those top three to four QBs at this point. I just don't think we have a Caleb Williams at the top of the QB rankings this year. And I just love that five to eighth round range where we're talking Jackson Dart, KJ Jefferson, Avery Johnson, just those types. of quarterbacks, I am fine with waiting until that range. And I think that's just where I am comfortable taking,

taking those guys and kind of loading up on the wide receivers and running back. So I'm not to diminish the, you know, the Kadon Salters and Byron Browns of the world. But I think this is a year where you can wait, especially until those fifth, you know, fifth round and beyond and take your guys there. So that's kind of been my overall thoughts so far with best ball drafting. Yeah.

I like that. Hey, one more question before you get out of here. Shane asked, wide receiver two for Ohio State behind Egbuka. It's been, in terms of our drafts, it's clearly flipped to the way of Jeremiah Smith. In fact, we're getting to be right about Jeremiah Smith time. It's like that 12th, 13th round. I think Josh has been leading the charge on that to some extent. I got it. Shocker, a freshman.

Josh loves the youngsters, which is cool. I mean, too, is Jeremiah Smith. I was lucky enough to watch Jeremiah Smith. I took him last draft on the bounceback 13, 12. I took him last draft in 4, and he hasn't been drafted yet. So he's going in the 12, 13, 14, 15 range after price correction and the hype got out. I have Carnell Tate in my longtime home league. and I was initially hoping like,

all right, maybe I could keep this guy and look at him as one of my five keepers. Nope, not even remotely thinking about that anymore. I don't think you can take Cardinal Tate ahead of Jeremiah Smith. I was lucky enough to see him at the Elite 11 put on an absolute display with, you know, a collection of the best talent in the country in one place. You know, probably one of the few,

nationwide mega kind of camps that you see. And he was a man among boys. There was nobody anybody could do to stop him. It was everybody was his mouth just left hanging a gape watching the kid. I knew this is coming in Ohio State, but man, it's coming even faster. It's just here. He's just immediately ready right now. It's almost unprecedented.

It really is. He's almost rare, very rare. I personally love that take. Bainbridge, what about you as a Michigan fan? Not as a CIPF fan. No, I was going to say, I don't even, I pick Ohio State guys all the time. I just, you know, those Chip Kelly wide receivers are always relevant in CFF, right? No.

So I, you know, have at it. I'm fine with letting Jeremiah Smith bypass me in draft. Oh, Chip is saying all of the. right things about Ryan Day. Okay, he's saying all the right things about what's going on there and that offense. And I'm not worried about him running up the school. We know Chip's just fine with that. That's awesome.

Well, hey, guys, I had very high expectations for this episode. Like, I just thought coming in, like, the content, getting to review these best balls that we're all in was going to be good. And this was phenomenal. I had such a fun time, chatting up with both of you guys tonight. and in the comments. I appreciate you guys chiming in and asking questions.

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