Fantasy Football Daily - NFL Draft HOT TAKES & Bold Fantasy Football Predictions

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

Fantasy Points continues the march to the 2025 NFL Draft with Brett Whitefield and Theo Gremminger, releasing the hottest takes yet for the upcoming NFL Draft. Where to find us: http://twitter.com/BG...Whitefield http://twitter.com/TheOGFantasy Join the Discord here: https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/discord#/ Find Our Podcasts here: https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/podcasts#/ Subscribe to FantasyPoints for FREE: https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/ FantasyPoints Website - https://www.fantasypoints.com NEW! Data Suite - https://data.fantasypoints.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FantasyPts Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@fantasypts #fantasypoints #nfl #fantasyfootball #dynastyfantasyfootball #FantasyFootballAdvice #dynastypoints #dynasty Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:47 daily. We're having a little bit of fun today, Brett. Hot takes and bold predictions for the 2025 NFL draft, fantasy-related ones only. This is going to be a lot of fun. We're running and rolling here. You are dropping a new mock draft coming up soon. I'm going to be writing a mock draft that comes out next week. we're getting near the end here.
Starting point is 00:02:08 We're getting near the end, Brett. The rumors start to be things that we have to pay attention to. But today, of course, we're going to have just a little bit of fun. Why don't you get us started? Give us a hot take to get us going. Yeah. I want to preface some of my hot takes. I don't know where you're at, but we're not holding us accountable for these, right?
Starting point is 00:02:26 These are just for fun. I think there's, I'm not saying anything I don't think it happened, but I just want to put that out there. Like some of these are, there's a chance. you know, they're not necessarily, you know, flagplants, which I will tell you if it's a flag plant. Here's one that is a flag plant, though. I'm going to kick us off right. You got something to say? No, I'm going to say, you know, we're Galaxy Brain in here.
Starting point is 00:02:47 We're having fun. Yeah, if you want to hold us accountable, you want to hold our feet to the fire. Let us know what takes we got right, what takes we got wrong. We're taking some bold stances today. And again, I think that these are educated guesses, though, Brad. I think some of these things could actually happen. I love the way you're starting us out. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:07 This is a flag plant. So I'm going, Ashton Genty will be drafted at third overall to the New York Giants. Here's a thought process. Genty's widely considered a top two or three talent in the draft. Some people even have them as the best player in the draft. I think Lance Zerline does actually. Lance Zerline has a significantly higher grade on Gentie than he did Bejohn Robinson.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And I'm not saying Lance is the end-all-be-all, you know. I disagree with. with many of his takes, but he definitely is connected. He talks to a lot of people, and he's been doing this for a long time. So for him to have such high praise for a guy, usually those players go really high, Theo. And then when you look at the way things transpired in New York last year with Sequin Barclay leaving, going to Philly, I just feel like ownership there is going to be pissed if they don't take Gentie to replace Seekinbond Barclay.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Plus, you have the ultimate doormat in Russell Wilson as your quarterback. You have a stud receiver in Malik Neighbors. You got a pretty good number two. and Darius Slayton, you got an accomplished slot receiver and Wondell Robinson. I think you really want to get this offense cooking. Going with that run game, man, Tyrone Tracy, Ashton Genty 1-2 punch would be pretty nasty. And I think that's the best way to probably cover up Russell Wilson and try to make this work with him at the quarterback spot. Yeah, I think that this would be one that would have, oh, I live on Long Island.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And I'll say this. If Ashton Genty ends up being a New York giant, you are going to see so many Ashton Genty jerseys all over the New York. York area. It wouldn't even be funny. And when you combine Gentie with Malik neighbors, you'd have one of the most talented running backs, one of the most talented wide receivers on the same team. Talk about a ecosystem where a quarterback could thrive, even a middling one like Russell Wilson. I think the chances of the offense becoming functional, way more functional with Genty in there would be, it would just be an incredible, incredible fit. And I think there'll be a lot of haters out there. saying, you know, you can't take a running back three overall. You just can't do it.
Starting point is 00:05:07 But I think you prefaced it a lot with this fan base has been starving, really didn't want to lose Sequin. They sort of get the next Sequin in Genty. And it's not just taking a running back. It's taking the draft's best offensive player, one of the highest graded running backs you've ever had, Brett, in your process. I think this is one where people could convince themselves that this was actually a really, really smart move analytically. the fan base would just be head over heels with it. And I think Brian Dable would like it too because Ashton Jendee could save his job. Agreed, totally.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So I will say that I will keep us going with this one. The last time that we saw three running backs in the first round, it was 2018. And it's going to happen again. This has been a class where we've talked about how deep it is. And you've made the argument that it could cause a couple players to fall. I've taken the counter argument that it's actually going to cause a couple players to rise where teams are going to go and get their guy. NFL teams have identified that this is a special running back class.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And it's going to be reflected in the draft capital we see with these players. I don't have Gentie going three overall, even though I love it. I wish it was my take. But Ashton Genty goes six overall to the Las Vegas Raiders, which is the chalk, but it makes a lot of sense. It goes to the Chip Kelly, Pete Carroll offense, Gino Smith, the quarterback, they go and get a focal point running back that can do a lot there and really speed up the winning process. O'Mary and Hampton to Denver, but I actually think Denver moves up a couple spots just to ensure
Starting point is 00:06:44 that they get him, Pittsburgh sniffing around right there in that same spot. So I think O'Marion Hampton probably goes somewhere inside of the top 18 overall. And then the shock pick, and it's not that shocking, but it's kind of shocking. Washington commanders could use a talent upgrade at running back. They got a ton out of Brian Robinson and Austin Ecclure last year. Jaden Daniels, of course, was second overall among all quarterbacks in rushing production. And Washington was a top four rushing team last year, really turned around that offense. But they identified a huge need getting Debo Samuel to fill the wide receiver two role
Starting point is 00:07:24 and also provide a player who can give them yak ability. something they lacked last year. Travion Henderson would also give them that. A receiver out of the backfield who can really do a lot after the catch, Henderson as an explosive runner with huge running lanes available to him because of the threat of Jaden Daniels. I just think the fit is perfect. And it's somewhat of a luxury pick for Washington
Starting point is 00:07:49 because they were able to address needs with Laramie Tunsell, Debo Samuel, and Javon Kinlaw. Trayvion Henderson goes off the board at 29, three running backs in the first round, and that leads to even more running backs being selected in round two. It's going to be a great, great night for dynasty managers with these three guys off the board. Yeah, so I'll counter that. So like, I'm not saying it's impossible. I respect the take for sure.
Starting point is 00:08:17 There's a chance we get three running backs in the first round. I do tend to lean on the side of, I think the depth of the class is going to push some of these guys down. because why would you want to be on the front, like the difference between Amari and Hampton and say, you know, my RB10 is very small. I mean, it's not a wide margin by any means. Why would you want to be on the front end of that run? I think teams do view the board that way in general.
Starting point is 00:08:40 So I'm not saying it's impossible. If this were to happen, though, Theo, I'm going to say I'd actually like these guys flipped. I would like to see Henderson in Denver and Hampton in Washington. If you go to the Fantasy Points Data Suite, listeners check out our advanced rushing table select offense and then split by
Starting point is 00:08:57 rush concept you'll see Denver is one of the heaviest outside zone teams in the NFL that just plays right into Trayvon Henderson's skill set that's what he's good at we want him in an outside zone heavy scheme conversely Washington is almost all inside zone duo and that's where we want Hampton we want him getting downhill and just pounding the crap out of the second level defenders that they're going to play he's going to see a lot of soft boxes
Starting point is 00:09:20 because of Jaden Daniels, really, really like the threat of Hampton in Washington. But other than that, I mean, yeah, this is probably the best, the right mix of three guys if they were all to go in the first round. Henderson to Denver would just be the best possible landing spot. I completely agree on that one. When you look at the role that Chavante Williams had last year, how he was, I believe, top five in running back targets last year, if you give that role to Trayvion Henderson, next to another mobile quarterback and an accurate one in Bo Nix.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I think that would be one where he could really excel. And Bo Nix, if we recall, when he was in Oregon, Bucky Irving led the nation in receptions at the running back position. So I think this is something that's in Bo Nix's DNA as well. I would love that, Brad. I think that would be mental gymnastics for dynasty managers where how to draft these guys correctly. You could see some Trayvion Henderson at the 102 spots.
Starting point is 00:10:19 in dynasty rookie drafts if he was to land in that nut spot in Denver, a plus offensive line, a plus quarterback, all of those great things. Really, really, really, really fun one. You have a basal tootin take here that's going to get the people going. Yeah, and this is more of a, I'm saying there's a chance. I think there's a chance basal tutin is the RB2 in the class, drafted, draft capitalized. I don't have him as my RB2. I think he's like RB7 or 8 for me or something like that.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But when you look at the profile, what this guy does well, his skill set, the insane explosive nature to his game. I think 53% of his rushing yards last year came on explosive plays. This is the exact type of player the NFL is looking for. He's got a great build to a durable frame. You know, he's got some potential in the past game, although it's untapped potential right now. This is just the exact type of guy the NFL is going for right now at running back. And I just, I think there's a chance. We're also hearing all the stuff about the character,
Starting point is 00:11:20 just a top notch football guy, football characters just extremely high with this guy. I've heard from several, I don't have a ton of sources, but I do have some. I've heard that pretty much everyone likes this kid too. And I think that's a huge check for him. So I think there's a small chance you see Bachelton
Starting point is 00:11:36 as the RB2 in the class from a draft capital standpoint. Yeah, I mean, I love it. I love the take. And it's sort of a lot of my argument for Trayvion Henderson is, you've talked about this a lot. NFL teams chasing that big playability, explosive home run plays. There's been a lot of talk about this,
Starting point is 00:11:51 about how your chances of scoring go way up when you have an explosive play on a drive. And the NFL team, NFL teams chasing the Jemir Gibbs archetype, guys who can just hit home runs. I think you're going to see it. I think the athletic running backs are going to get pushed up. I think guys like Bachel Tootin, guys like DJ Giddens are going to go a little bit higher
Starting point is 00:12:12 than most people anticipate. Now, certainly, I don't think he's going to go off the board as the running back, too, overall. But I love that bold take. I love the aggressiveness on that one. And I'll say this, Brett, you talk about his character. Bachel Tutin's also a dog because this is a guy that goes and has the best possible combine imaginable, an athletic running back who leads all athletic testing categories, and then shows up to Virginia Tech's Pro Day.
Starting point is 00:12:41 I didn't think he'd even work out. And he shows up and he participates in on-field drills. And then for whatever reason, he's like, you know, it must have been chest day for Bachel Tutin because he went down and participated in the bench press. And he had 24 reps, which was more than any running back at the combine. So Tutin is just an absolute beast. And I think he's been one of the most significant risers in this entire draft class at the running back position, this entire offseason.
Starting point is 00:13:09 So I do think NFL teams are going to. be all over him. I've got a basal toot and take as well right after this. When you're flying Emirates business class, enjoying a good night's rest in your live flat seat. You'll see that your vacation isn't really over until your flight is over. Fly Emirates. Fly better. Welcome back to Fantasy Football Daily on Fantasy Points Network. Theo Greminger and Brett Whitefield, if you want to learn more about these running backs, these wide receivers and pretty much everybody in this rookie class, make sure you go and read Brett Whitefield's prospect guide. Brett, how can people access this guide? How much does it cost? Fantasypoints.com and it costs
Starting point is 00:13:54 nothing. It's free. You just have to make a login. There's like an option. You go to the sign-up page. There's an option to create just a free login, register your email with the site, and then you can access the guide. Easy, peasy. Yeah, and I will say like I've told you, I think this is absolutely incredible source of information. I have gone and referenced it when I'm setting up my shows, when I'm writing my articles. There's stuff like even if you think you have a real handle
Starting point is 00:14:18 on a lot of these 2025, I promise you that there's something in there. If not multiple things, you're going to find out when you read Brett's evaluations. And Brett's hit rate has been exceptional over the years on identifying players that can help you win in fantasy football. So Bachel Tutin, back to it.
Starting point is 00:14:36 You had a basal Tutin take where he obviously would move up significantly in Dynasty Rookie Drafts and redraft and Best Ball if he was the second running back off the board. I don't think he's going to be the second running back off the board. I already said that I think there is going to be three running backs inside of round one. But I think that the landing spot for Tutin is going to get the people going. The San Francisco 49ers have 11 picks in the NFL draft. They have an exceptional amount of picks. and with that comes an exceptional amount of flexibility.
Starting point is 00:15:08 They can move up and get their guys. They can address positions that are luxury types, type picks, and then address needs a little bit later. They can pretty much do what they want. They also have the 11th overall selection, which is a spot that you don't usually see San Francisco picking out of. My prediction is that the San Francisco 49ers select Bachel Tutin at 43 overall, which would give him early second round draft capital and would put him in a position
Starting point is 00:15:41 where the dynasty community would see him as a high-end handcuff in year one and a potential RB one in year two. The Shanahan system has been great for running backs and Christian McCaffrey is nearing the end. You're talking about a guy who's going to be 29 this season, depending on what you think of Christian McCaffrey, he's either cooked or he has a year left, maybe a year and a half before he transitions into some sort of James White role to end out his career. I think that would be sort of the, he can catch passes out of the backfield once he's pretty much cooked. But Basial Tutin, San Francisco 49ers, 43 overall. Your thoughts on that one? I love the fit.
Starting point is 00:16:26 So yeah, right on. I think that fit could actually work with my take, by the way. Like I think 43 is it? Yeah, I think that's a reasonable spot to expect an RB2 if we don't get the crazy run in the first round. Now, Luther Burden has been a player that has not gotten a whole lot of love from Brett Whitefield. And Luther Burton backers look away because you've got another take here, Brett. Yeah, I don't think this is a crushing take. And in fact, I think the landing spot's really juicy. I think he's going to fall to the second round. I have a hard time. believing the smart guys in the NFL who never miss they never do the wrong thing. It's a hard time believing they would take Luther Burton in the first round.
Starting point is 00:17:10 So I haven't fallen to the second round. And I think the landing spot that makes the most sense is at 47th overall to the Arizona Cardinals to pair with Marvin Harrison, Jr. and Michael Wilson. I think Burden and Wilson together give you a nice slot combo where you're getting, you know, you can have that power slot in Wilson or you can get the speedster, you know, potential route runner, although he's not a good. outrunner right now, but yak player. And I think it's a really good complimentary skill set to what Marvin Harrison Jr. brings. And you know what? Marvin Harrison Jr.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And the way he played last year, he's not screaming that he's like this 150 target guy perennially, which means if Burden's going to land in a spot that already has a solidified wide receiver one, this might be a good spot because he could still be a wide receiver won several weeks out of the season for fantasy purposes. So I actually really, really like this. I think Kyler Murray, his, his, his. one of the things he just never does well is he doesn't play in time and in structure. Getting a guy who can excel in the short part of the field in Luther Burden could help get him back on track.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And so I think this is the best landing spot possible for him. Yeah, I think I think you nailed it where the draft capital would not be what some people would like to see out of burden. But I think once they take a look at the actual system in play and his potential immediate role in the offense, this is a really nice fit. So bold take and also a fun fit take when it comes to burden. I'll go a little bit earlier. We'll stay at the wide receiver spot. And I'm going to say that this is going to be a trade up. The Green Bay Packers have a glaring need for a wide receiver one.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Jaden Reed is just not a wide receiver one. The Brazil game, notwithstanding, this was a player who had sporadic usage. And I think certainly after two years, despite having some very, very, very fun moments and some productivity. This is not a player that Matt LaFleur views as a guy that he can lean on week in, week out. You also have the continual injuries with Christian Watson and just a lack of quality with guys like Romeo Dubs.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Green Bay needs a wide receiver in this draft, and I think they're going to get it. Ted McMillan goes off the board at 12 overall to Dallas, which is not really a bold take. I think a lot of people are expecting that. Then you're going to see Green Bay start to maneuver. their way up. They are going to trade up from 23 to 15 overall, and they are going to select Matthew Golden of Texas as their new wide receiver one. Golden, I think, fits in very, very well in this offense. I think this is a player who has some parallels to a guy like Ladd McConkey in the potential usage and also the potential outcomes. And I think Golden ends up being a reliable
Starting point is 00:19:58 target for Jordan Love. And Brett, I think that Matthew Golden, there's been a, I know that I certainly am a little higher on him than like Scott Barrett is. And I think I'm higher on him than you are at this point. I think this would be a spot where Matthew Golden could excel and be a wide receiver one in an offense. Your thoughts on this one. Yeah, this is a tricky one. I, because I don't know, I guess with Green Bay specifically, they don't have anything close to a wide receiver one right now. So can Matthew Golden be a wide, a wide receiver one in Green Bay? Sure, but the bar for that's kind of low, if you know what I mean. I don't know that traditionally.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I look at Matthew Golden's resume and skill set and say, oh, this is a wide receiver one on an offense. I think he's more equipped to be a high impact wide receiver two type. I've come from the Tyler Lockett. That's what Tyler Lockett is. High end wide receiver two where you need a guy like DK next to him to get the most out of him, but I still think very good player. So, yeah, I think this is fine.
Starting point is 00:20:57 you know, the Packers would, like, he'd be the best receiver on the backers for sure. But I don't know that I love calling, like, I don't know that I love giving him that kind of target volume, at least not with where he's at right now as a player. It's an opportunistic wide receiver one, certainly. For sure. But I do think he's got the explosiveness to his game where it's going to be a functional offense, an offense that can run the football. And I think that in this sort of a positive ecosystem, if you give him the target,
Starting point is 00:21:27 I think he's going to produce where can he hold on to a wide receiver one role for the length of his career? Potentially no. But I think he could give you maybe a two, three year window before he's sort of like usurped in that role. And it would give him a chance to get off to a very, very fast start to his career. I think this dynasty wise, this would be a landing spot where people get really, really excited about not only with the draft capital, but also like you said, the lack of wide receiver target competition in Green Bay. So Matthew Golden, off the board 15 overall to Green Bay write it in ink this one's coming true everybody wants you to drop a jackson dart one Brett where are you at you got to drop it drop a jackson dark one here i'm not ready to move on for matthew golden i got okay all right cute all right so let's say the scenario plays out exactly how you have
Starting point is 00:22:15 it tet macmillan at 12 the dallas who has cd lamb and a weird team in general and then matthew golden in technically he'd get more draft capital investment that than Ted McMillan, because if you're talking about a trade-up for 23 to 15, that's not going to be cheap. So would Matthew Golden then be, would you draft him higher in Dynasty than Ted McMillan if this played out exactly how you later? So I think that's a really, really interesting, interesting question. And for me, I think when we look at Dak Prescott and we look at Dallas and we look at CD Lamb, we think about how Dallas has a real lack of a secondary target.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Jake Ferguson is just not it. And I think when it comes down to it, Ted McMillan as the wide receiver two in an offense that could have good passing volume, Ted McMillan might not have that 150 target outcome to him. But I think he would be a Amari Cooper type. We think about how Dallas was able to function with Cooper and Lamb playing alongside of one another.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I think you'd end up with something like that. I still probably would go with, Tet McMillan, it would be a little bit closer. And certainly it wouldn't be like a free square Ted McMillan landing spot like a Carolina at eight where you could paint a picture that Ted McMillan could get up to the 160 target range. But I think with, I think we have to go back to the prospect profiles.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I think that we both view Tet McMillan as a better bet to reach sort of a potential wide receiver one status. Yeah. Where Golden is not, is not that. I think Golden would be a guy who I would view. is a wide receiver two that would just land perfectly. So I would take Tet McMillan as the number two target in Dallas over Matthew Golden as the number one wide receiver in Green Bay if this scenario occurred.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I think there would be people that disagree with me on this, but that's sort of where I'd be at. No, I love it. Also worth noting, Ted is like a perennial, he'll be a perennial 10 touchdown a year guy, double digit touchdown guy, and that will probably elevate his fantasy points a little bit. All right, I can give you my dark. It'll be a fun one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, give me the dark take.
Starting point is 00:24:29 People need it, Brett. Yeah, he's going to go in the first round. Like I've been telling you since freaking July of 20, 23 at this point, or 24, sorry. I forgot what year we were in. But, yeah, I got him in the first round. I have Pittsburgh trading up for him. I think Pittsburgh's going to have to get at least the 17 to get Jackson Dart. They got to get over Seattle here.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I think Seattle is in that range. And then if he falls too much more beyond that, you're looking at other teams in the second round coming up for them, whether that's the Jets or the Giants, whatever teams miss out on those first two quarterbacks. So I think you've got to see Pittsburgh going to get aggressive. They've been, they've not been shy about getting aggressive in the past. They do not have a starting quarterback on the roster right now. The day we're doing this, Aaron Rogers has not signed a contract.
Starting point is 00:25:17 It is Mason Rudolph. So I'm pretty confident that Pittsburgh's going to come up and grab Jackson Dart at some point. I'm going to say 17 overall they'll trade up to. Yeah, I mean, I love it. It makes total sense. And this has been a spot where you've talked about as a potential landing spot for Dart. I think New Orleans at nine could be in play. But I think if he falls past that spot, then I think you'll see somebody maneuver around to get him. He's too good of a talent to fall out of the first round. We've been steadfast in that. I've continually had Jackson Dart mocked inside the first round. You have been team Jackson Dart since for like 18 months now, Brett, you've been talking to me about Jackson Dart on podcast. So we are absolutely team Jackson Dart. And I think with Pittsburgh having D.K. Metcalf and at least for the next season,
Starting point is 00:26:05 having George Pickens at the wide receiver two spot, now whether that ends up being a player who finds a new home and they don't give a contract, that's probably the most reasonable outcome. But for now, Jackson Dart with D.K. Metcalf and George Pickens with Roman Wilson, with Calvin Austin, and with Pat Friarmouth, and a little bit more Jalen Warren. at the running back spot, which is not your traditional RB1, a guy who can catch the ball out of the backfield, and an offensive line where Pittsburgh addressed a lot of offensive line needs last draft and drafted some good ones.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I think this is a spot where Jackson Dart could see some immediate success, not to mention he's got Mike Tomlin as his head coach, a guy wins all the time, and winning matters for young quarterbacks, not just their fantasy points they put up. Your thoughts on Dart as a fit in Pittsburgh? Oh, I mean, for fantasy, this would be slamming. dunk, man. For one, we've seen Arthur Smith dial up a lot of QB run stuff. And I think Jackson Darts tremendous at that. Plus, he'd have the, you know, I guess nice weaponry around him. Plus
Starting point is 00:27:08 a good offensive line. That offensive line has been completely remade. I think you're going to see a big year from them this year. We're going to take a quick break. We come back. I'm going to talk about an absolute dream landing spot for Caleb Johnson. Welcome back. We're talking about NFL draft, hot takes and bold predictions, Theo Griminger and Brett Whitefield. And if you're in and takes like this, Brett and I are going to be streaming the entire NFL draft. We're going to have some amazing announcements coming out about fantasy points coverage of the NFL draft that entire weekend, Brett. We're going to be getting after it, getting you ready to crush your redraft leagues,
Starting point is 00:27:41 your best ball leagues, and certainly your dynasty rookie mock drafts. There'll be a number of very cool guests, both from fantasy points and from outside of fantasy points. That'll be very fun, Brett. I'm already sort of like training in the gym, getting that. endurance ready. We're going to do every single round. It's going to be a lot of fun, my man. I'm going to keep this one going. We talk about dream landing spots for running backs. I talked about Bachel Tutin in San Francisco in that Shanahan system. Let's talk about Caleb Johnson, a player who there's a little bit of like mixed enthusiasm about about Caleb now. I think this is a guy
Starting point is 00:28:17 that certainly was an unbelievably productive player in Iowa, runs the 4-5-840, the same NFL Combine that Omari and Hampton and Quinchon Judkins and certainly guys like Tutin ripped it up in. But Caleb Johnson, I think there will be a very quick turnaround because his landing spot's going to be ideal. Caleb Johnson lands at 41 overall to the Chicago Bears in the elevated David Montgomery Roll. Rochon Johnson moves to the number three spot. And you have a David Montgomery role in a Bedin Johnson offense where instead of dealing with Jameer Gibbs as the running back to, it would be DeAndre Swift. So Caleb Johnson would see, I think, usage wise, even more than we saw from David Montgomery certainly last season. Caleb Johnson in Chicago, with the improvements
Starting point is 00:29:09 they made on the offensive line, with what we think could be a much improved offense, I think Caleb Johnson could have double digit rushing scores next season in Chicago. Caleb Johnson off the board at 41. Bam, I won't deny that that's a good fit, right? Like Caleb Johnson, and in that Montgomery role would be awesome. I think we've been saying that for the entire dang off season. So that would be great. My preference, though, for Chicago is that they try to draft the Gibbs guy. I think between Roshan Johnson and DeAndre, DeAndre Swift is not the explosive player he used to be.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I think those two guys can recreate the David Montgomery role rather easily. I think going with a Trayvion Henderson or a Bachel Toon or even an RJ Harvey at 39 slash 41 overall would be a better use of resources for what they, have on the roster. But I like Caleb Johnson fine as a player. And I think he would be great in that Montgomery role. I just, I think the Montgomery role is a little easier to recreate. Well, I'll keep it going. I have one more take. We talked about Houston Texans on several of these podcasts. They're a team where I think there's a little bit of mystery with what they do at 25. Certainly there's been
Starting point is 00:30:19 some turnover this offseason. They acquire Christian Kirk. Tank Dell is going to miss the season, though. This is also a team where Houston took a step back from what we wanted to see offensively, certainly in the passing game. C.J. Stroud, year two, there was a ton of enthusiasm heading into it. And in terms of redraft was a major, major letdown in terms of the stats he put up, just didn't take that big second year leap that a lot of people had anticipated. I think that Houston goes out and drafts a mecca egg buca at 20. 25 overall, giving you an Ohio State reunion. When it comes to Egbuka, I would say that this is one of the best possible scenarios.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Certainly he has some overlapping skill set with Christian Kirk, but Christian Kirk was only acquired for a seventh round pick. I think Igbuka would have an opportunity to excel in this offense opposite Nico Collins, also in an offense where there isn't a high earning, target earning, tight end on the roster. and Joe Mixon's getting older. So Ameca Egbuka, 25 overall to the Houston Texans. I know you love this one, Brett. I feel like I've spent a lot of time playing devil's advocate here.
Starting point is 00:31:34 That's okay. It gives the people two different perspectives, I guess. Listen, I think Emeka, Emeka, Agbuka is a very high floor player. The chances of him being successful in the NFL to me are as high as almost anyone in the class across all positions. I think he's a very good player. I think he's a very limited player, though. I would be remiss if I didn't say,
Starting point is 00:31:54 I don't think he's a first round talent. That said, I could totally, it's totally plausible. Like, we know teams value the receiver position. The surplus value you get out of a rookie wide receiver contract is insane. They're about to pay Nico Collins a Brinks truck full of cash. They need inexpensive wide receiver options on the roster. Look at what even wide receiver, good wide receiver twos are getting on the market right now.
Starting point is 00:32:17 20 plus million a year. Like, drafting a receiver in the first round is a, great proposition for team building in general. So I'm totally cool with it from that standpoint. Furthermore, it seems like C.J. Stroud has kind of, he rules the ruse there. I think the ousting of Bobby Sloick was indicative of where C.J. Stroud, how he felt about Sloick, the complete O-line remake, even though the O-line was a disaster because of C.J. Stroud, but it points to signals that C.J. Stroud is the guy in charge right now. And so, yeah, he's going to want to play with this boy, Emeka Egbuka. I could totally see this happening. I could see Stroud demanding it happen and it happens.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I don't know what to do with that year one because there's so much overlap between Kirk and Ekbuka. I think Ekbuka is best fit as like a 70-30 slot outside type of player. So is Christian Kirk. So I'm not sure what you do in three wide receiver sets there. They also have John Metchy on the roster. And I know he played on the outside down the stretch. Wasn't very good at it. I think he's also best serving the slot. So I'm not really sure how they make it all work. I'm sure CJ's job doesn't care. He's going to get his boy, a mechakbuka in the fold.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Now, Brett, one take that has been sort of prominent throughout this draft process for many is it's a down quarterback class. We don't have the depth in the quarterback class. A lot of people will say there's only going to be two quarterbacks drafted in the first round. The latest take is Shadur Sanders could fall. There's been sort of a lot of cold water poured on this quarterback class. Now, the two of us have already said that Jackson Dart is going to be. be a first round pick. We're pounding the table for that one. But you have another spicy quarterback take here. Yeah. And if you've listened to any of my work this off season, this one's
Starting point is 00:33:59 really going to surprise you. But I think there's a chance. And it's a small chance, but there is a chance Jalen Milrow ends up in the first round. I think a lot of times with some of these draft conversations, where there's smoke, there is fire. And we are hearing that a lot of teams really like Jaylon Milrow. And I think he's an easy guy to fall in love with from a character standpoint. I remember the way I felt about Jalen Hertz when he was coming out. And unfortunately, that's the comp. Milrow always, that's a player Miller always gets comp to is Jaylon Milrow. They're not the same guy.
Starting point is 00:34:27 But Hertz had that high level competitiveness, that character, that work ethic. You see the same stuff with Milro. I think there's a lot of attractive qualities to Milro's game. He's a dynamic rush threat. I could absolutely see, like, let's just walk the board real quick, Theo. Like look at these second round teams. Say Cleveland, New York, Jackson, or sorry, not Jacksonville, Las Vegas, I meant to say, Cleveland, New York, Las Vegas, New Orleans, the Jets, even the 49ers to a certain extent, doubt the Indianapolis Colts.
Starting point is 00:35:02 All of these teams could be in the QB market, and they're right at the beginning of the first or second round who could trade back into the first round for a quarterback, and Milro would make a lot of sense for them. Yeah, I mean, we see it every year where there's enthusiasm at the quarterback position and, there's been guys who are lesser prospects than than Jalen Milro who have gone in the first round. I think when it comes to Milro, he's not perfect. But if you build your team around him with his rushing ability, with his also, his potentially big arm in the NFL, like I don't necessarily think this happens, but I don't think it couldn't happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Like you said, this is a number of teams where we saw the Will Levis draft capital, where he was the very beginning of the second round. all it's going to take is a few trade picks up in terms of a trade and Milrose off the board. And like you said, a ton of quarterback needy teams that might not want to take the chance of Milro falling to the second round and then having to compete with all sorts of trades all day long for people trying to position themselves to draft them. I would personally love the Vegas scenario because he would have a chance to play behind Gino Smith.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I think that's really the ideal scenario for me. put him in that Chip Kelly offense. I think he could excel there. That would be a really, really fun one. Now, I have a tight end take here, and I think a really spicy one. The top two tight ends are terrific in this draft class. You've got Tyler Warren, you've got Colston Loveland. We also like a few of the tight ends behind them.
Starting point is 00:36:37 We like guys like Elijah Arroyo. I know you certainly have Mason Taylor very high in your overall NFL draft prospect rankings. But for me, I think you're going to see what NFL, NFL teams do on draft night will be reflective of just how special a tight end group this is. You're going to see two tight ends selected inside the top 15 overall picks for the first time since 1992. And you're going to see the Indianapolis Colts trade up to 10 overall. They'll make a trade with the Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears had their eyes on Ashton Genti. Jenty will go off the board. They'll be more open for a trade down.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Colts will give them a slight trade down where they trade up from 14 to 10, and the Indianapolis Colts will take Tyler Warren at 10 overall. Then you'll see the bold move. The Los Angeles Rams last year were in the mix trying to trade up for Brock Bowers. They obviously didn't get them. This year, LA has pushed the chips in. They brought back Matt Stafford. They acquired Devante Adams.
Starting point is 00:37:41 They're going to push the chips in even further. They're going to trade up from 26 to 13. with the Miami Dolphins and take Colston Loveland. So Tyler Warren off the board at 10, Colston Loveland off the board at 13. I mean, how spicy is that, Brett? How bold is that? How, what a hot take?
Starting point is 00:38:00 I see smoke coming off your microphone right now, bro. Oh, yeah. I'm fired up. Fired up about these tight ends. Don't touch Theo. He's sizzling. So, yeah, that's hot fire take. The double trade up, I think, is the part of that makes that extra spicy
Starting point is 00:38:15 because I think it's very plausible. that we have two top 15 tight ends, but two top 15 tight ends for a trade-up is crazy talk. And I love it. I'm here for it. These guys are good enough. They're deserving of that kind of draft capital. I've been trying to find ways to mock the Rams,
Starting point is 00:38:31 one of these tight ends. It's impossible without a trade-up because they're going to go before. And in fact, Theo, I'm going to one-up your hot take. All right, laid on me. Lay it on me. I have two going to the top 10. And I don't normally do spoilers for mocks that aren't out, but I have a mock draft coming out Tuesday of this week.
Starting point is 00:38:47 actually you might, it might be passed by the time you're listening to this. Mock draft coming out tomorrow, Tuesday of this week, where I have Tyler Warren going fifth overall to the Jacksonville Jaguars and Colson Loveland going 10th overall to the Chicago Bears. I mean, this would get the people going. Tight end premium drafts. Like I can't even imagine the enthusiasm in like an FFPC dynasty rookie draft with the tight end premium.
Starting point is 00:39:12 If you had a tight end going off the board at fifth overall and at 10th overall, and it's two players of the community really, really likes and guys that are projected to be really high-end fantasy assets. Tyler Warren at fifth overall, though, Brett, I think would melt faces. Like, the Colston-Loveland of Chicago people get really excited about, and I think stylistically it would be incredible. But certainly DJ Moore and Roma Dunesay there, that would give the scenario where Loveland breaking through
Starting point is 00:39:40 and being the number two target on the team, that would be a tough one. Maybe in year two, maybe in year three. with DJ Moore moving on and getting older. But the Tyler Warren won, wow. Tyler Warren in Jacksonville as the number two target. One of the easiest ways to spot tight ends who are going to excel for us as fantasy assets is are they going to be the number one or number two target on their team?
Starting point is 00:40:05 Tyler Warren, it would be like a free square pick. You talk about a guy who would get 120 targets potentially in year one with Brian Thomas and Tyler Warren as the top two targets. I signed me up for that one. That would be amazing. It's crazy too because they vacated all of his other target comp and Evan Ingram who was traded and Chrissy Kirk who was traded. So it would be B.TJ and Brian Thomas and a bunch of low volume guys and Gabe Davis and Diammy Brown and running backs that don't really do anything after the catch. So that it'd be a monster spot for Tyler Warren. And then what do you think about Loveland as a fit in Chicago? I love it. I mean, I've been comping Loveland to
Starting point is 00:40:44 kind of Sam LaPorte all offseason, right? So, you know it's kind of like it's dot connecting to an extent but ben johnson getting his quote unquote sam lapporta i also am in the camp that i think cole commet is just not a not a legit receiving threat anymore forever really was so i think ben's going to be looking to upgrade there for sure whether it's in the first or second round i'm not sure but lovelin going there i think would be huge i do agree target comp right away could stink um but you know ben ben has made it work we had Leporta, Jamo, and Amonraa St. Brown, all very effective for fantasy this year. Jemir Gibbs caught a bunch of passes as well.
Starting point is 00:41:21 So I think he could make it work for sure. Yeah, and I think that you made a good point on the Leporta type role where Keenan Allen is most likely not going to be a Chicago bearer. He's still kind of out on the market now. I don't think that's completely, the door is not completely closed, but more likely than not. So I think Loveland has the number three target and a lot of Roma Dunesay potential where I'm optimistic and bullish about Adunze taking a big step forward, but just how big a step forward is a Dunezay 110 target guy or is he 135 target guy?
Starting point is 00:41:53 I think Loveland would be a guy that could excel on touchdown catches, like you said. And also he's just such a talented player that he could really just burst the door down and have more usage and more production that I think some might project. Loveland would be really fun. But again, Tyler Warren would melt faces. I'll keep our tight end predictions going here. This is a super fun one where we love the tight end position in this draft class.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Certainly the high-end ones, Brett, all of potential to be early starters in the NFL. And I'll say that the second round is a tight end cleanup round. Elijah Arroyo going to Dallas at 44 overall is going to be the most exciting one. I talked about them getting Ted McMillan at 12. they go out and they get Elijah Arroyo at 44 as an upgrade to Jake Ferguson. I think this would be one where Dak Prescott has continually elevated his tight ends. Elijah Royo would excel in this role in Dallas. Then I don't think it ends there.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Mason Taylor goes off the board at 50th overall to Seattle. Another kind of free square landing spots where guys like Noah Fant, AJ Barner are not going to hold back a talent like Mason Taylor. I think he'd be on the field early in his career and a chance to do well. And then I said Terrence Ferguson at 55 at another spot where people can get really excited about. Los Angeles has Will Disley back. They signed Tyler Conklin. But neither of those guys would be prohibitive of them drafting a super athletic tight end like Terrence Ferguson.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Terrence Ferguson goes off the board at 55 overall. Your thoughts on those? Yeah, I mean, those are fun. Arroyo to Dallas at 44 is great. I mean, we kind of talked about a pre-show a little bit with the way Dallas uses their tight end. It's a lot of checkdown type run after catch stuff, going back to Dalton Schultz, and now Jake Ferguson. Arroyo is like, it'd be like injecting the Captain America Super Soldier serum into your tight end room, getting him in that option, a seam stretcher.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I think he'd elevate C.D. Lambs game. Like, they wouldn't know what to do with the tight end that gifted. That would be wild. They haven't had one since, you know, peak Jason Witten. And that was a long time ago, people. I really would love that. Mason Taylor to Seattle and Ferguson to the Chargers. I actually, like, I would love both those,
Starting point is 00:44:18 but I think it'd be even better if you flip them. And I know draft capital-wise, we want Taylor to get that top 50 pick. But Mason Taylor, with Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman, in that Chargers offense where they really value the in-line position, Mason Taylor is more of an in-line threat than Ferguson is. So I like the idea of Taylor with those guys a little bit better. He's like a super-powered Will Dissol.
Starting point is 00:44:38 and they ran the offense through with Will Disley in weeks last year, which is very strange. But I think he'd be exceptional there. Terrence Ferguson counterpoint in Seattle, where they do have an AJ Barner, who is a fantastic blocking tight end, it would take the stress off of Ferguson to have to really get in the trenches and bang, where they're going to run a lot of 12 personnel. And, you know, they're going to let Ferguson kind of do what he does and go win routes and be great after the catch. And so I kind of like those flipped.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Either way, if we get three, those three tight ends and, you know, landing spots as good as that would be great. Give us one more to wrap us up here, Brett. Yeah, so I think everyone's curious like, hey, what's the next wide receiver domino to fall after Tet and Bird and Golden and Egooka, regardless of how you feel about those guys? I'm going to say Jaden Higgins is the next off the board and he's going to go 37th overall to the Las Vegas Raiders.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I think they're in desperate need of a big body, you know, X type wide receiver who can just go win routes. Jacoby Myers is a good separator, but he's kind of limited. with what he can do. Trey Tucker is a good gadget player. You can scheme up some deep stuff for and some screens. Higgins gives them that legit number one wide receiver option to go with a Brock Bowers.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And I think you see that pass catcher room with Myers, Bowers, and Higgins would just really start to come together. That'd be a lot of fun to me. No, I would actually love that fit. It's a free square landing spot for Higgins where he'd be on the field a lot and he'd be on the field early, unquestioned wide receiver starter. And how quickly he could kind of usurp Jacobi Myers in the pecking order. I think with his profile, I think that could happen as a rookie.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Myers is an underrated player, but certainly not a player you'd want to be your wide receiver one. And Brock Bowers is just going to do Brock Bowers things next year. He could be a 20 point per game guy in tight-end premium formats and an 18, 17 point per game guy in PPR formats. I think Bowers is going to go absolutely bonkers this year. But they need to put more talent around them. He also went out and got Gino Smith. I like the, I like the fit there with Higgins. Brett, this is a lot of fun.
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