Fantasy Football Daily - Super Bowl Betting Recap + Kenny Kawaguchi for MVP | NFL Best Bets

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

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Today on the Best Bet Show at Fantasy Points, we're recapping our Super Bowl 59 best bets, our Fantasy Points Super Bowl prop contest, and discussing the exciting future of the Best Bet show. Super Bowl 59 is over, which means Super Bowl LX is just around the corner. We are now, I guess, less than 365 days from Super Bowl 60. we are less than a month away from free agency kicking off in legal tampering. It is draft season. So the fun does not stop at all Tom Brawley. Joe, I feel like you're bearing the lead here, Mr. Resident Philadelphia Eagles fan here.

I was trying not to make it so blatantly obvious. No, it was a very good. I want to thank you for taking over the Series XM show on Monday. I know I got somebody who tweeted, man, I was excited to hear you on. Monday and I said, I didn't move until 11. 11 a.m. I was going to say, yeah, you slept, you didn't see the light of day until, until about noon probably. So, no, I was glad to, uh, you had a lot of reasons to celebrate

on Sunday night. Yeah, it was just like, um, so anyway, the Eagles beat the Chiefs 40 to 22 in the Super Bowl. Um, as a matter of fact, Tom, as a better, um, I didn't actually do all that great. Now, I had the Eagles plus two and I had a Milton, Williams sack at plus 220 odds. So I got I got good numbers there. I had a throwaway bet on Zach Bond to win MVP because I thought if there's a blowout, which, hey, he had an interception. He did have an interception, but not the Cooper de Gene one. It shows you how hard it is for a defensive player to win Super Bowl MVP, by the way. Josh sweat had three sacks and Jalen Hertz was still the MVP. Yeah, DeGine scored a touchdown. Yeah, there was many players that could have,

that had at least like a small case for MVP in that game. And then my, my conspiracy theory that throughout there last week about the officials. One drive into the game. Somebody tweeted me. They're like, guess you were wrong? And I said, I guess I was. And then it felt like there was the makeup call on the next time. So it was over after that. Dallas Goddert very lightly got touched on the face mask.

And they gave the makeup call on the other end. So, yeah, I was thinking the same thing as the person that was in your mentions there. I very, very much am glad we're not talking about. the officials, though. Like after the game, I think that's the last thing the NFL did wanted to see what was the officials being the talking point. And I'm glad they're not. So, hey, look, Tom, I hit a couple of plus money bets. I had the Eagles spread. I wish I had more conviction, though, about my take that if there was a blowout, I thought it was going to be the Eagles who did the blowing out. Because every piece of analysis, and I'm not even trying to clown

on people about this. If you were talking on our serious XM radio show or if you listen to any podcast, any radio show, any talking head program, whether it's a hot take program or a measured analysis program, like first take or NFL matchup on ESPN, two opposite sides of the spectrum, a lot of the analysis was uniform across the board. The Eagles have the better run game. They have the better receivers. They have the better offensive line. They have the better defensive line. They have the better linebackers. They have the better secondary, but they don't have Patrick Mahomes, so I'm picking the Chiefs. Yeah, that, I mean, honestly, we said it's a very similar analysis on last week's show. I mean, that's why I ended up on the Eagles plus two, plus one and a half,

you know, on the spread there, because they were better across the board, except at the quarterback position and ended up being better at the quarterback position in the Super Bowl as well. So, yeah, it hit big. I was very satisfied. I gave out. My first bet of the year last year was on the Eagles to win the Super Bowl at 22 to one odds. And I know you had a couple people in the Discord mentioning, you know, thanks for that bet last February. Had to wait, you know, close to a year for that to cash. But when that money hits the account, it feels good. So I was very happy.

Not as happy as you were, Joe, that the Eagles pulled that game out, but I was also very satisfied. Yeah, I was happy about it. you know, the plus money on the Milton Williams sack plus 220 worked out really well for me. But also we had the Super Bowl prop contest up at fantasy points. And I guess this is a good way to recap some of what happened during the game. I don't think we're going to go through every answer here, Tom. But we talked about the contest before. We're going to probably run it again next year.

But some of the things that happened in the game to win, you have to kind of correlate what you think is going to happen in the game with some of these fun, some of these fun props. The National Anthem went just under. Oh, my gosh. I was texting you and you were texting me like, what did you have? It was really close. I had somebody at our party that was timing it and they had it like right at two minutes.

And yeah, I even went to official books. I saw BetMGM had a, you know, right around two minutes there. So just under the count there, we had a 201 on our our player prop or prop contest pool. So just under the, just under bare hair. Andy Reid was shown first during the anthem. Taylor was not. The coin toss was tails. And here is a big score, Tom.

Pass interference was the first penalty of the game. Yep. And that was a big score. So if you pick that, you know, you were able to, by the way, I've reached out to all the winners. Check your email. It was a personal email from me. Only one of the five winners at fantasy points has gotten back to me. So if you're listening to this, make sure you check your email.

if you entered the contest. Especially if you picked the Eagles to win. Yeah, we got James H, 49 points, Tad M, 47 points. John H. Was that John Hanson? I was not John Hansen. 43 and a half. Chris P had 43 points, and Brian H had 41.5.

So congratulations. Reach out to us if you haven't, you know, maybe you haven't seen that email. Check your spam, whatever. We want to give out those subscriptions. So congratulations of those people. Yeah, you're talking about like these guys, like what John H,

They're like a severance character, just the first name and last initial. Tom, some of the other props that hit. Oh, this was a big one. Eagles wide receiver tight end was so close to hitting as the first touchdown scored. That was a dot by Jalen Hertz to John Dodson. And then. Yeah, that had ramifications all the way down the board though, Joe. Yeah, because that was that that ended up having a touchdown overturned,

which was a, what was that, two or two? three points, two and a half points for, I believe that one. And then that also caused the longest touchdown, shortest touchdown to be under one and a half yards because Jalen Hertz plunged it in from the one yard line. And that ended up being the only touchdown that was from the one yard line and in. So that ended up having multiple ramifications down the player prop pull that the Jahan Dots and touchdown being overturned. I think let's talk about where Vegas did some of their winning. It seems like from everything I'm reading, they were kind of split in terms of of chiefs and Eagles. A lot of the sharp folks were on the, were on the Eagles,

but obviously the public was going to be betting the chiefs. So that line didn't maybe move as much as we thought it might bet towards the Eagles. They had some decent two-way action. Where the books definitely hit, though, was Sequan Barkley unders. Like, because nobody bets unders in the Super ball, right? You know, I bet under penalty yards and got screwed on that one. But nobody bets unders. And Saquan had a yeoman's-like game, average two and a half yards of carry, but had 40 receiving yards. And Tom, his blitz pickup was phenomenal. And you can make an argument for Saquan that, I mean, Steve Spagnolo's entire game plan was stop Saquan Barkley,

forced Jalen Hertz to beat us. Yeah, I mean, the Eagles adapted. They started getting them out on the perimeter and the passing game, just trying to, you know, do little flare passes out to him. So they did a good job with that. But yeah, Sequin Barkley had cashed a lot of overs, a lot of touchdown props as well. That was the most bet, I believe, listening to some podcasts and stuff this week. The touchdown prop for him was about minus 190, minus 180 in that range. And a lot of people were on it.

And he did not find the end zone. Eagle certainly tried to get him plenty of touches, but could not find the end zone. So they cashed all over the place on Seekworn. Berkeley props. And where the books got hit was Patrick Mahomes going over in the garbogieist of garbage time. You know, like the, like it, the most spectacular garbage time touchdown I think I've ever seen was like, was the long time. I'll be honest, I don't even remember the play happening for multiple reasons.

I was probably on the phone or something like that. And, you know, I was watching the, watching the game through a tannin colored glasses. but I don't even remember that the long touchdown to Xavier worthy happening. I remember the first one, but not the long one. Yeah, I think it was right after the, you know, Kenny Pickett was in the game and he attempted a pass, which ended up on.

Which also screwed people. That was a big one because that was over two and a half players to attempt passes in this game. So that ended up going over. I initially filled out the bracket, filled out the pool. I was running the, filling out the answer for our own contest. And I had filled out under.

just because I assume that they weren't going to throw a pass with Kenny Pickett, but he did end up throwing a pass. And yeah, right after that, that propelled Xavier Worthy to lead the game in receiving yards. I think he was going to lead anyway. But, you know, that was a big point getter towards the tail end of the prop contest. I think that was five or six points for him to finish with the most receiving yards in the game. Can you have a bigger garbage time touchdown scored, like in terms of like how garbage the garbage time is, then scoring a touchdown after the opposing coach gets a Gatorade bath in the Super Bowl.

Yeah, and after the backup quarterback is in the game, the second, you know, the second string players are in the game. You know, they're emptying the bench. But, yeah, it still counts. It's going to look better on the score sheet in a few years, whenever people are looking at box scores, 40 to 22 looks a lot closer than what that game actually was. But it counts the same.

A lot of people, that swung, a lot of props. And a lot of DFS, you know, playoff contest. We did the postseason long contest and that Xavier Worthy touchdown certainly swung a lot of pulls. So it meant a lot for our purposes in the betting community. By the way, I actually, I didn't bet the under, but I actually liked the under in the game. And I'm going to say, I actually feel like it was the right side. Like the Eagles just dominated and then the Chiefs getting the fourth quarter garbage time. touchdowns, you know, Jalen Hurth threw the dagger. So look, it went over by two touchdowns.

So maybe maybe me saying it felt like the right side is a little too much. But it kind of played out like an under game in my opinion. Yeah, I certainly did. I mean, Eagles dominated the entire game. And just because it got so lopsided that the Eagles kind of took their foot off the pedal and we're giving up chunks of play. And so yeah, I was on a thread with some people that had the over. And they were like, oh, God, you know, they had it parlayed with the Eagles. And they were lamenting how they had the right side with the Eagles, but no way it was getting over. But Patrick Mahomes did his magic late to get the over betters, the square betters in the Super Bowl. Get them that over 48 and a half.

All right, Tom, that's enough to Super Bowl talk. I know for a lot of folks, it wasn't a very exciting game. It was for me. I don't care because the Eagles already won one of the best Super Bowls of all time. I'm glad this game sucked. I had no stress. So I'm happy for that. But we've got to do a little bit of betting recap

from some of the awards in the 2024 NFL season. And then at the end of the show, we'll have good friend Trey on to talk about the future of the podcast. So we're going to have a word from our sponsors and we'll be right back. Tom, I'll be remiss to say that we do know, that we do know the Super Bowl futures for 2025 or out.

We're going to talk about that on next week's podcast. Give them a little bit of time. time to marinate here. There's going to be some line movement, but mostly towards the middle and back end, which I guess is where you want to make the bets anyway, probably not so much at the top with the favorites like the Eagles and the Chiefs and the Ravens and the Bills. But we'll talk about that next week, early liens, early plays, why we like them, why we don't. You have an article out on on FantasyPoints.com about the Super Bowl 60 futures for Fantasy Points subscribers. So go check that out up at Fantasy Points.

Tom, you mentioned the Eagles 22 to 1 was your favorite, your best early Super Bowl bet, but they closed, I think, before the season, like 12 to 1. You know, they signed Sequin Barclay and that's significantly raised. They made two great draft picks that people were excited about. So there's the importance of getting on this number. But there are also other players, other futures here that hit. Josh Allen hit at MVP at plus 850. I think he had the second highest odds,

so not really a huge surprise there. But Josh Allen nailed the MVP. I think a lot of people came into the year thinking the narrative was going to swing in his favor, and it certainly did. Yeah, that was a wild race, though. Alan kind of got out ahead, was the heavy favorite late into the season.

Then Lamar kind of closed the gap a little bit in the final weeks of the season. And then the big twist came. when the all pro team was announced and Lamar Jackson was named the first team, all pro quarterback. So I think Steve McNair and I think Pete Manning, I think it was back in 2002, was the last time that a, you know, quarterback wasn't named to the first team. And it ultimately ended up getting the MVP.

So Lamar and like on Pauley Market and some of these other sites that were still running odds, he jumped to the favorite, but things ended up swinging back to. towards Josh Allen late, and he ended up pulling out the victory there for the MVP, gets his first MVP. Lamar Jackson already has a couple of them. But, you know, and Seekoine Barclay ended up finishing third. He had really distant odds, even at the start of last year, you know, right before the season started, it's 300 to 1. And he ended up finishing right in the hunt there, but was never going to catch these

quarterbacks. Saquan Barkley, offensive player of the year plus 2,200. I'm actually, I'm a little surprised that 2,200 was where his number was at. Because those don't come out until like after free agency, right? And like, and the draft or something. So like it wasn't like he, he, they put that number up when he was still potentially a New York giant, right? Yeah, all these odds that we're looking at are from right before the start of the season, September 5th. So I mean, but if you go back to what we were thinking, at least for fantasy and stuff, Joe, it was a lot of talk was,

he's not going to be involved in the passing game Jalen Hertz isn't going to throw to him he's going to get touchdowns vultured away from him from Jalen Hertz play threat yeah so uh which it didn't end up playing out that way a little bit but he was just so awesome that offensive line obviously a big upgrade from the Giants offensive line so a lot of big plays for him still ended up getting a whole bunch of touchdowns even though Jalen Hertz ended up vulturing him so very special. season. But yeah, 22 to 1, you know, that basically put him, you know, the 10th or 11th best odds entering the season. It ended up cleaning up. But, you know, it was the story of the fantasy

season a little bit, Joe. A lot of the top players at, you know, we were drafting the first round kind of disappointed. Christian McCaffrey, Tyreek Hill, Brees Hall, a lot of the people that were the favorites for this, this honor did not end up having great seasons, which elevated a guy like Sequel and Berkeley. Tom, I'm looking at the preseason odds. There was no quarterbacks basically even on. Yeah. So now is that just, is that just like a given fact now that offensive player of the year is a non-quarterback award? Yeah, I think at this point, MVP, like that's how these voters are going to do it to honor the best quarterback in the league is now the MVP and the offensive player of the year. They're going to vote for running backs or

wide receivers, maybe a tight end here. probably doubtful, but so it's become pretty strictly a running back and receiver award. Yeah. You know what? The thing I guess that would change that would be if a running back or a receiver had a year so insane that it was, and maybe the quarterbacks weren't so special that like the voters would then say, okay, I'm voting this, I'm voting, let's just say Sequin Barkley for recency bias. I'm voting Sequan for Mvry P and I'm going to vote Lamar for offensive player and just kind of flip their tendency. But I can't even imagine what it would take for that to happen.

Like even if Sequin broke the rushing record, he wasn't going to win MVP. No, that's, I mean, like, somebody would literally have to probably run for 3,000 yards or something. Like something that's probably not even realistically going to happen. A lot of these voters, they're so into the analytics and the numbers. Like, they will never vote for a running back no matter what,

because they're not the most valuable player on their team and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. running backs don't matter. But yeah, I mean, this was about as good as season as we're going to see. And even we saw a wide receiver. Jamar Chase won the triple crown. We'll get into the odds for the receiving statistical leaders. But he had a very special season too and didn't really have a chance to even sniff the MVP. Let's jump to that.

Let's see. He had most receiving yards he won at plus 900. Most receiving touchdowns he won at plus 1,000. I don't have a most reception. I'm not looking at a most receptions here. If they even throw that out there. Oh, they do. I didn't include it on our seat.

What would you have gotten? Like, to parlay plus 900, plus 1,000, plus 1100 or whatever for a triple crown to happen. I mean, that had to be like 100, 125 to 1. Yeah. I mean, maybe that's something to look at here. The last, I guess over the last four seasons here, we have two people that have done it. I think Jerry Rice was the last time to do it back in the 80s. But in the last four years, we had Cooper Cup in the special RAM season there where he ended up winning the MVP in the Super Bowl as well.

He won the Triple Crown that year. And to Mar Chase, a few years later here in 2024, does it again. So I don't know if they let you, you know, parlay those together. That's something I'll maybe I'll take a look at later this summer when those odds start to come out. but yeah, I mean, I ended up giving out Jamar Chase receiving touchdowns. I think it was like 18 to 1 over the summer, which hit. But I did not expect him to clean up into receptions and receiving yards as well. Tom, let's go.

Offensive rookie the year, Jane Daniels plus 500. He was a pretty heavy underdog to Caleb Williams, who was plus 130. The only guy who came close to this was, was Bo Nix. I mean, I guess Brian Thomas and Malik Neighbors had some sort of an argument, but really, Bo Nix was the only one who really came close. Marvin Harrison had a disappointing year. The longest shot future to hit was defensive player of the year. Patrick Sartan was 125 to 1. And I think that's just how hard it is for a corner to win defensive player of the year. You know, Aidan Hutchinson got hurt. T.J. Watt didn't have his best season.

Max Crosby's on a bad team. He had injury problems. Miles Garrett, they stunk and yeah. Yeah, the Browns were terrible. Mike apart, the Cowboys stunk. Their defense was terrible. So it just turns out Michael Parsons missed time as well. So all these things are conflagrating, Tom, to Patrick Certan winning defensive player of the year. I don't know how much you can take out of that because kind of like with the wide receiver position where so many guys just got hurt. It just, it was like this perfect, perfect storm for Patrick Surtan to win defensive player of the year. Yeah, it's, it was all that I still think in the future here, this is still an edge dominated award. And, uh, but yeah, you kind of went through it there, Joe.

A lot of star players that were on disappointing teams and didn't have nearly the seasons that we expected. And, um, but, you know, maybe something, this is something to keep in mind a little bit. I mean, we did see the league kind of shift a little bit more towards the running games. this season with Seyquan Berkeley and Derek Henry dominating. And so maybe this had a little bit of effect on the past rushers, not being able to pile up those huge numbers like we've seen in the past. So, but yeah, Patrick Sartan, that was a huge long shot at 125 to 1. Haven't seen a whole lot of many, a whole lot of defense backs win this award.

But he was certainly deserving. Nobody was testing him very much. And one of the few guys for fantasy that we were like, if he's going against Patrick Certan, might want to look elsewhere for fantasy. So, but I do think we'll go back to some edge winners here in the next couple of years. Kevin O'Connell, Coach of the Year, plus 2000. Is there any lesson to be learned about, like, coach of the year? You know, because, like, it seems like the best teams, the guy, like, never wins the award.

And, like, believe me, I know Andy Reid has his flaws, but I think Andy Reid has one Coach of the Year award in, like, 25 years, you know? Nick Siriani didn't even sniff this award. Dan Campbell. I thought Dan Campbell should have won the award, like for what they did in the regular season with all the injuries they had on defense. And I think he ended up finishing second or third. But yeah, it always comes down to, hey, let's look at these teams. And then maybe, well, unfortunately, I'm in Pennsylvania. I can't bet on the coach of the year.

But I'll try to put together an article next year for it. And, but you got to look at these teams with win totals, maybe like seven and a half, six and a half. Who's the one team in those areas that could, you know, really outkick their win total and get to 11, 12 wins and win their division and be in the hunt here. And that's, you know, clearly Kevin O'Connell was very deserving of this word, Sam Darnold coming in and, you know, playing well under them and them winning 14 games in the regular season. But yeah, these coaches for these top teams usually don't get enough credit for what for what happens during the same. Right. I'm looking Andy Reid's AP head coach of the year. He won in 2002. That is it. Yeah, and that was probably an Eagles team that, you know, early in his tenure and, you know, it was kind of a turnaround. That was the first Eagles team. No, I think it was the second Eagles team to win the division in his tenure.

I don't know, I don't know, like, whatever. I mean, Andy Reid, Andy Reid's been to five Super Bowls with Kansas City and he wasn't the coach of the year in any of those years. I mean, it's such a flawed award, but it's a very, it is even more narrative base than the MVP. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's, it's wild, but I'm going to have to think about who those coaches might be in the future. T-Brill, we're running a little, a little bit long here on these futures. We'll obviously do a podcast when the futures come out for the 2025 NFL season, the player award futures. But we got to take a break and then bring in good friend Trey to recap the season

and talk a little bit about the future of the best bet show. Good friend Trey, welcome to the program. Got himself a little bit of a haircut there. I mean, the man bun is gone. He's looking, he's looking, he's looking, he's looking, like I called him at the senior bowl Tom Browley. I called him the dancing bear, like the old Greg Cosell offensive line as him, as he is lively running up the ball.

bleachers to get clips edited and posted on social media. And he is a new man for 2025, hopefully at least in terms of betting. Finishing strong. What an end of the season, man. But good for a intray. Let's recap the season. How'd you do in the Super Bowl? Well, the Super Bowl was great, you know, and I mean, I mean, great might be a stretch. But I did profit 1.12 units. So I had three bets. Jalen Hertz anytime touchdown. That was free money. I don't know why anybody would have not taken that, especially considering the discrepancy between his line and in Sequin's line there. I got DeAndre Hopkins over the, over the 10 and a half receiving yards. I thought he would be way over, but he was just, he had 18. So you had 10 and a half, though, because the Hopkins one,

a lot of people, that was 11 and a half, because I think his first reception was 11. And he ended up Get it on the touchdown reception. Yeah, he was at 11 for a long time, and I was safe. I was good. I had 10. Okay, good. Noah Gray didn't hit for me. That's okay.

And then I don't know what happened, but Bette MGM gave me like $5, $20 bonus bets, $26 bonus bets. And I put them all on Jalen Hertz anytime touchdown. So that was, I got a little extra money that way, too. So it was pretty good for me in the Super Bowl. You know, I can't complain. The straight and arrow treated me well towards the end of the season. And I'd like to say, you know, I have been working out, shedding some pounds, but the weight on the scale keeps staying the same because the pockets keep getting out.

Oh, you know what I mean. So look, we got to talk about what's going to happen here. You're kind of the guy, like, not only do you cook up the bets in the lab, Trey, but you cook up the podcast and you plan the podcast. And we're Tom and I will be announcing very shortly some scheduling changes in our lives, which means. that the best bet show, at least once we get to the NFL season, this is going to be a multi-time-a-week type of deal, and it's going to be a lot of fun. And I'm looking forward to it, and you're going to be involved as well. So what have you been cooking up for the people? What have you been cooking up for the podcast feed? So yeah, I got some great news for the people.

So we're going to record a bunch more during the week in season. So somewhere in the realm of three to four episodes a week up from our one this year. So that's good news just off rip. Going to cover more, you know, against the spread. We'll keep our best bet show. That won't change. But we are going to add a couple wrinkles here to what we're doing. So the biggest of which, and this is real, I'm not making this up, we now have an NFL best bets hotline.

Oh, no. Oh, shit. Let me read this phone number to you guys. Write this down. grab a pen grab some paper 319 775 0410 let me give you that one more time 319 775 0410 you call that number let us know about the bad beats if you need advice if you just need to vent you call us okay we're going to be taking some calls this year we're going to be helping our people out so last time I'll give the number last time.

319-775-0-4-1-0. Write it down and use it. We want to hear from you guys. Yeah, we'll be plugging that on the show, no doubt. We'll probably early week. I think we'll be playing some of the best bad beats or maybe even some of the best hits on. We're going to have an opening line show, right?

We're going to have an early week opening line show. So that'll probably be where we'll have a bad beat section. Call in, you event about anything. And then later in the week, hey, if you have a. best bet or something that you think you're cooking up in the lab, you think it's worthy of the shows, you know, being featured on the show, call it in later in the week and give us your best bets for the week as well. So we want to hear them. Yeah, look, I mean, this is going to be a show for the people where it's going to be just such a bigger focus for what we do. I had so much

fun doing it this year. And like I said, I'm no betting expert. I'm just sitting here with a microphone and I'm like, oh, that looks good. But that, you know what, Tom, you're the one who's really digging into the numbers. Tray's digging into the narratives and the numbers. And I'm a vibes guy here. I got the offshore betting, you know, I'll, I'll fully admit that. I live in a Philistine state. I live in South Carolina. The only state that's less likely to legalize gambling is Utah. So, so I got to be honest with you there. I got to find my ways around. But the cool part is with the offshore, Tom, is I've got access to some of the stuff you don't in a legal state. I was getting some information on some halftime entertainment, the anthem stuff. Which was right, by the way. I know, but the books had already taken them down. So I'm trying to hit up Joe.

Even I got it. I'm guessing if we, I'm guessing if we got the information, people of the books certainly got the information. They know the rehearsals now are on Friday anyway. So I even got a little word that Eli Manning wasn't making the Hall of Fame on Thursday last week. And I was like, Joe, they have any Hall of Fame odds up on Bovada. So unfortunately they did not. But we do have draft season coming up where you're going to be covering the hell out of that. We should say that we started this podcast back in August.

So we've only been around for a few months. We're fully intending to have a once a week podcast on this feed the entire offseason as well. So in addition to the multiple podcasts during the season, we're going to be sticking around all off season long with an episode each week. And good friend, Trey, there is only one man who loves the UFL more than good friend Trey. And that's Jake Trippy, fantasy points, who is just a complete sicko. I mean, the Super Bowl is his preseason. He's getting into the UFL.

Trey, we could bring Jake on every now and again to talk UFL or you can just throw out what UFL slop you're cooking up. You had a profitable year in the UFL. We absolutely have to bring him on. And I say this completely unironically. This is the whole 100% truth. I did not miss a game last year. I love the UFL. The UFL is awesome.

Borderline, like when the betting wasn't going well for me in mid-NFL season, I was like, geez, man, can we just get to the UFL? Please, God, we got to get there. I love it. And yeah, Jake does a bang-up job. I mean, we were putting projections out for the UFL before the books were even listing props. And then halfway through the season, ESPN bet finally listed some props. I always give this example, but ESPN bet had a backup quarterback lined at over under 177 and a half passing yards.

So we, you know. So you're rooting for him just to play a couple snaps at that point. And he did. You know, we put our max bets on that. And he did get in for about three snaps. I think he had about five yards. And we cashed. and ESPN, you know, made some adjustments after that.

But this is a new market. And, you know, we definitely last year we're ahead of the books in whatever capacity. So very, very profitable. If you're a DFS player, the live stream with Neil Orrfield is very much worth your time. I unironically loved every second of it. It was a blast in the spring. And, you know, you just get, you miss football at that point in time. So it's the, it's the perfect thing to get into.

I believe their package is running on the site now. So go over. I told some bets last year. They were easy money. So please get on that. We'll give a little taste of it out in the podcast here. But you want to be on the Discord or, you know, as part of the subscription package because those lines will move quickly because we're going to be hitting them very quickly in the Discord. Yeah.

Fantasy point subscribers will move UFO lines. Yes, they will. And they move and they move a lot. lot. It's not like the NFL. So when our, when our site and I'm sure other sites, you know, are hammering the initial lines, they will move sometimes 10 yards, 12 yards, 13 yards. I've seen rushing lines move 12 yards last year. So it does, it does happen. And it's, it's crazier than the NFL with the movement. So being early is very important in the UFO. Yeah, no doubt about it. So we'll be discussing that on the best bet show going forward once the NFL season kicks off.

make sure you follow Jake Tribby stuff up at fantasy points.com. Oh, good friend Trey. Yeah, well, you got a little bit extra for us here. I got one thing I just need to say. I should have mentioned it during the Super Bowl segment, but this, I want this to be in, you know, set in stone, so it never happens again with the Super Bowl. Super Bowl MVP odds, okay?

Yeah. Patrick Mahomes, Sequin Barclay, Jalen Hertz. This is not like a hot take. or maybe, you know, maybe this is common knowledge. If a quarterback is ever, third or lower, I don't care. I don't care if it's Kenny Caliguchi, bet them. It'd be just, it was ludicrous. I know it's a little bit off topic, but that's one thing I wanted to say on this podcast.

I did hand out a couple of bets. I didn't take myself because I'm on the straight and narrow, though that would have been okay. But I had some friends win on that because I was like, this is very stupid. We run a prop contest. Yeah. Oh, I forgot to mention that.

Joe won it because he was one of the few people that had Jalen Hertz. Everybody that picked on the Eagle side, a lot of people were on the Sequin Berkeley prop. So yeah, that was a winning strategy for Joe. I felt like if you were on Saquan Berkeley for Super Bowl MVP, you might as well just light the money on fire. The last running back to win Super Bowl MVP, Terrell Davis, 30-ish years ago. Yeah, that's wild. Now that you think about it, you know, because even in the first,

first Chiefs 49er Super Bowl, who is it, Damien Williams should have won, should have won the award. I was on to him on that one. Oh, you were probably so sick of it. There was, there was James White. They gave it to Brady because of the comeback, but James White scored three touchdowns in that game, right? You know, so. He had four touchdowns. Yeah. He had an amazing game. Anyway, I just, I felt like I needed to say that. One other thing I wanted to mention, this is more, I don't know what happened with this, but I remember, maybe I just think I remember it. I was watching one of the championships,

AFC or NFC, and I saw Yellow Gatorade. I can't remember which team. It was the Eagles. I thought it was. And so that's why I told my buddies, I said, Super Bowl, Yellow Gatorade. You got to. You have to, so what you did, I did was, I correlated that because I knew it was the Eagles, and I picked the Eagles to win the game. So that's why I picked Yellow Gatorade. If you pick the Chiefs, you should have picked purple,

because that was, that was Andy Reid's, I guess, the last two Super Bowls. The last two Super Bowls. So that's definitely something you got to watch going forward for who plays in these championship games. Keep those eyes open. At all times, you got to be consuming information. You know, I'm playing a game called Rise of the Golden Idol. Hey, we talked about on this podcast here, Joe. We talked about the Gatorade. Just listen to this podcast and you get that kind of. Yeah, yeah, we did mention the Gatorade color. So look, I'm playing a game Rise of the Golden Idol on my iPad.

It's like a mystery solving game. Every detail matters over the course of the entire. game. The littlest detail, you got to remember the details. Every detail matters. And that's what we bring you on this show. Even if I was like plus point one units on the year, hopefully you got a couple laughs out of it. Good friend Trey, Tom Brawley. I'm Joe. We will be with you next year to start what else. Talking about the 2025 season, we'll be with you throughout free agency draft season, updating you with everything NFL and even UFO on this show. So take it easy, everyone. Make sure you subscribe to the feed if you haven't already

because there will be plenty more of us for that came.