Fantasy Football Daily - Teammate Battles That Win Leagues: Who’s the Better Pick at ADP? w/ John Hansen

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

Use code SCOREMORE10 at checkout for 10% OFF any subscription. Dominate your league. Win more bets. Level up your game On today’s episode of Fantasy Football Daily with John Hansen, we dive into one of the biggest edges in 2025 fantasy football: choosing the right teammate at the right ADP. Which offenses are being slept on — and which players offer the highest win-rate potential? John and Theo go head-to-head across 10 pivotal teammate matchups, breaking down the better value for your draft strategy. From Lamar vs. Derrick Henry to Waddle vs. Tyreek, we’ll help you build a winning roster with confidence. Key debates include: Derrick Henry (Round 2) vs. Lamar Jackson (Round 4) – Ravens stack dilemma Puka Nacua (late 1st) vs. Davante Adams (late 3rd) – Rams value check Bijan Robinson (Top 5) vs. Drake London (Round 2) – Falcons ROI Garrett Wilson (Round 3) vs. Breece Hall (Round 4) – Who carries the Jets? BTJ (1-2 turn) vs. Travis Hunter (6th round) – Jaguars ceiling bet Tyreek Hill (early 3rd) vs. Jaylen Waddle (6th round) – Dolphins discount Jahmyr Gibbs, Amon-Ra, or Jameson Williams – Lions best investment Tee Higgins vs. Chase Brown – Bengals ADP battle JSN (Round 3) vs. Ken Walker (Round 4) – Who to trust in Seattle? Jeanty (1-2 turn) vs. Brock Bowers (late 2nd) – Raiders rookie edge 📅 New episodes every Wednesday at 11 AM! 🔥 Powered by Fantasy Points. 🎧 Subscribe now for 2025 fantasy football draft strategy, rankings, sleepers, and more! Where to find us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://twitter.com/TheOGFantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://twitter.com/Fantasy_Guru Join the Discord here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/discord#/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to Fantasy Points for FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Transcription Here: https://podsqueeze.com/embedded/transcript/fE6nE6o6wvSzgPPPsNZ3rD/ Fantasy Points Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ NEW! Data Suite - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://data.fantasypoints.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/FantasyPts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fantasypts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ #FantasyFootball #2025Rankings #DaveKluge #RB1 #WR1 #QB1 #TE1 #FantasyFootballAdvice #NFL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're going to talk about which teammates John and I are more comfortable drafting that make our teams the most dangerous, talking about win rates, talking about identifying the teammate that is going to be a better value for you in your fantasy football drafts. And John, we're right around the corner. We're like a little less than 60 days out from NFL kickoff. It's, it's here. We're in that post 4th July feel where people start coming out of the woodwork, people start getting prepared for their fantasy drafts. So hopefully we're going to help them out today. How are you doing today, my man? Doing great. Great to be with you here, Theo. Love all the work that you're doing, the passion that you have. have the attention to detail is pretty darn incredible.

I have, you know, pulled back a little bit from the day-to-day activities. You know, I have been doing this for 31 damn years. But I am still incredibly passionate about basically getting it right. And now, you know, my rest time is kind of over. It's go time. And, you know, I've got, I think, some pretty hot takes, a little bit of a weird year, I think, overall. But I'm ready to rock and roll. Yeah, and it's funny because we've been putting out all these really strong YouTube videos,

and I've had a bunch of comments for the YouTube videos saying, when is John coming on? When is John coming on? Where's John at? You need to schedule a show with John. And I'm like, replying to these people, I'm saying, we got John on the schedule here. We're also going to do a school of Scott with John the next few weeks. So let's just get this thing started. John, a lot of times we talk about which players you should be drafting, identifying, like,

the difference between who's the wide receiver 12 and who's the wide receiver. for 15. We get so caught up in tears, caught up in rankings, and caught up into player targets, but we should take a step back and figure out the offenses that could potentially be underrated by the fantasy football community. If I can just nail the right offense, then I can draft like four guys from the same team, and they're all going to beat ADP expectations. I remember that first year, AJ Brown showed up to Philadelphia, how Jalen Hertz, A.J. Brown, DeVantta Smith, all just were cashing tickets. We saw it a couple years back with Tampa Bay. Every single year this happens where you find that team and it's like the skeleton key to identifying just easy way to

draft. Who's a team or teams that you have your eye on right now that you think maybe the fantasy football community is sleeping on a little bit? You know, I look through all the teams here, Theo, nothing really truly jumped out of me. I mean, I definitely think we should look at Carolina, but these are these are all low-end guys but I do think that has a chance to come together I'm not willing to go Chicago even though it's Ben Johnson with a pretty ridiculously great supporting cast you know a couple of other teams here I think Dallas I think is is prime to to bounce back a little bit but at the end of the day when I mean even Green Bay I think they're not going to be as bad indie I mean, they're in the mix, believe it or not, with Daniel Jones. I mean, I'm not ready to, you know, flag, plan a flag on indie with Daniel Jones. First, he's got to win the job and all that.

Jacksonville with Liam Cohen. You know, that that is somewhat intriguing based on Cohen's short but very impressive track record. End of the day here, Theo, Miami, like, who the hell knows? I think I'm going to go with an obvious team, but I still think it's a good answer. and that would be my favorite team growing up, the Minnesota Vikings. And the reason I say it is because I do believe

that J.J. McCarthy is the most optimized pick on the board. Going to deliver the best ROI. And I also am extremely high on T.J. Hawkinson. I think JJ snapping it off to Hawk, running down the seam is going to be a thing, a year removed from the ACL. I love McCarthy in general. You know, I've said this a million times.

I unsolicited, you know, was unsolicited, you know, begging the GM, Kuesia daffamensa, two years in a row. Please, dude, we got to get a transcendent talent at quarterback if the Minnesota Vikings are ever going to get over the hump.

Well, JJ McCarthy, what does he got? Like four losses since Pop Warner, national champ. The only thing I would say is, I'm not totally convinced that, you know, he's going to be good to go and rock and roll right out of the gate. But I do like the opening schedule and I think it's very helpful for a young quarterback trying to learn on the job at Chicago, home against Atlanta and then Censi. That's pretty good little ramp up here.

So I'm going to go with that. Obviously, JJ's great. But the other player and I, you know, Aaron Jones, I'm not going to be banking on him, but he did look great. year. You look fresh. I've been saying it for half a decade that they've been minimizing his workload in order to keep him fresh and healthy. But I think Jordan Mason's going to be a good pick. A, if Aaron Jones goes down, you're in with Jordan Mason. But I think there's going to be a role for him. I think eight to eight or nine carry per game role for Jordan Mason. So I'll go with the 14 and 3 Minnesota Vikings seems obvious, but we've got everything in place. Everything

that was in place that helped Sam Darnold have the career he had is still all in place, and J.J. McCarthy is better than Sam Darnold. Yeah, I love your take. And I love when I have guests on that that make me feel good about my picks and some of my drafts as well, John. So T.J. Hawkinson, I drafted him the sixth round of an FFPC main event. And a couple years back, if you played tight end premium, Hawkinson was a guy that was getting pushed into like the second and third round. He was like the tight end two behind Travis Kelsey for like consecutive years in drafts. Now you're getting him in a range where it's not going to take a whole lot for him to return value for you in tight end premium. And when you look at formats like underdog and just

certainly regular PPR non-tight end premium formats, Hawkinson is just sort of settled in. He could be a real edge pick. Jordan Addison, people are treating like he's been suspended already. A lot of fear in the marketplace with Addison. You're seeing him. fall into like the seventh, eighth round a lot. Really good talent. Love your Jordan Mason call. I'm in on Mason. And I think like there's, I've argued with some people about this one.

I know Scott, I know Graham Barfield are both very much in on Aaron Jones and cost and sort of the ambiguous backfield. But I look at Mason, Mason's 25 years old. He's got a lot of juice as a runner. Like 25% of his carries last year resulted in first downs. He was top five or six in the NFL in runs over. 20 yards despite having only like 150 something carries. Mason, I think he's got the contingent upside where if Jones missed his time and Jones

has missed time in many seasons of his career, then Mason's like an RB1 for us. And there's a chance that he's just the goal lineback in like you said, a really, really good offense. So I love that answer there. I'll bring up New England for me. I think New England's a team where if Drake May hits, then I think Trayvion Henderson hits. I think Hunter Henry hits. And then whatever wide receiver you're betting on, probably Stefan Diggs hits as well.

It just feels like they've got confidence in that offense. They have some rational coaching this year after like just ridiculous decisions in years past. But non-professional coaching. Non-professional coaching. That's what I call it. Non-professional coaching in New England in the last three years. Yeah, 100%. And like you said with McCarthy, you get that unknown upside with May.

With McCarthy, we're hoping he can get rushing attempts. Drake May, we know he's going to get rushing attempts. So really, really like that one. But yeah, Minnesota, I think Minnesota could score a ton of points. Another cool thing about Minnesota for McCarthy, those two games against the NFC North, where it was Pittsburgh and I think the other one was Cleveland, he doesn't have to go away for those. Those are played in Europe.

So kind of dodges a bullet, avoids playing at Pittsburgh, gets to play him in like a neutral environment. I think that helps a young quarterback a ton. We're going to take a quick break. and when John and I come back, we're going to talk about which teammates you should be eyeing the better values in some of the NFL's better offenses right after this. Welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily, Theo Greminger. And John, talk about your schedule during the year where people could find your podcast. They're already listening to Fantasy Two Points podcast.

But what's your sort of like your initial flow during the season? What's a week look like for you starting week one in the NFL? Yeah, it's going to be very similar to last year. I'll do two pods a week, the Fantasy Points podcast with Brian Drake. You know, when we're in season, we'll do, let's say it's week one. We'll do a Friday preview of week one. And then we'll do on Monday morning, we'll have that we'll record Sunday night, the recap with all the hashtag analysis, what do we get right?

What do we get wrong? I like to point out both sides of that. I will once again do, you know, kind of my favorite article to do in season, and players to trade and trade for it. It's been really good the last couple of years. It was not to chew my own horn, but I've been doing this for a while, you know, and I'm,

I've really, you know, kind of homed in on that, like the buy low, sell high guys and all that, always looking forward. So I'll be doing that. I'm still going to be doing my own little weekly rankings just for those who want to see them. I'll do the hump day with Hanson,

YouTube one hour special, which is kind of some content, but more, you know, Q&A. And then I'll do, I think I'm still doing the, I'm doing one, one thing with Brett and Graham, I believe, which is in lieu of like the matchup podcast. Then I'm going to do the big article. I do answer's hints. So it will be a very, very, very busy year for me. But like I said, this is the, I've been the most well rested this offseason.

So we'll see if, you know, my brain is a little more well rested. So I might be a little more accurate. there you go we're looking forward to it yeah make sure you're checking out all the podcasts you're putting out all the written articles they already are uh but looking forward to seeing those throughout the season john and again it's right around the corner we got training camp starts in like 10 days so we're right around the corner for that one so really stoked for that so when we talk about identifying teammates a lot of times people will focus in on the highest drafted player on a team where there's been better value to be had a little bit later. It doesn't always work like this, but when you can hit on that cheaper teammate, and again, the offense delivers the goods, you can end up having an edge in your fantasy football draft. And I think one of the biggest decisions for drafters, it's simple enough in a lot of these questions to say, I like them both at cost. And I think for a number of these players, we probably will like them both at cost, but we're going to say which one we think is going to

deliver a better value to you this year, win rates, and just overall vibes that we're feeling about these players at these costs. And let's start out with a really, really hard one. Baltimore Ravens are being projected to score the most fantasy, the most points in the NFL by the Vegas market. You have Todd Munkin returning as offensive coordinator. He's been sensational for two straight years in Baltimore. Baltimore has just been a fantasy football, ATM machine churning out a bunch of wins. And last year, Lamar Jackson was being selected as like the QB3, ends up finishing as the QB1 overall. Derek Henry signs as a free agent, has over 1,900 rushing yards, averages 19 and a half points per game. So now you're paying a second round price tag

for Derek Henry, goes somewhere in the mid-second round. And Lamar Jackson goes off the board as the first or second quarterback selection, depending on where people are valuing. Josh Allen somewhere in the fourth round. So if you could have Derek Henry in the second or Lamar Jackson in the fourth, which way would you go? First of all, this might be a little long of an answer, but, you know, Lamar Jackson, and by the way, I have kind of undersold him more than not, unfortunately.

But I, and a lot of its availability concerns. And, you know, he's kind of, I don't say turned a corner, but he's been better the last couple of years. but I was at the combine, his combine, when he comes out to the podium, it was his first NFL press conference. That's when these guys get their first NFL press conference, basically, their first podium at the combine. And I think it was Bill Pollian who was out talking about how he might need to switch positions

and all that. And I stood a foot away from Lamar Jackson fielding three, four questions about whether or not, if he's a quarterback. And I remember, I reported back, I'm like, this guy. is unbelievable. Like, I love this guy. Uh, he just exudes this greatness. And he's like, no, I'm a quarterback. And the fact that that question was asked multiple times. I know it was what seven years ago, whatever. And he, he just dropped 41 tuddies versus four picks is, I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean, it really. I mean, this is incredible numbers here. I mean,

we, we, and by the way, I didn't think he stunk coming out. You know, he did show some advanced passing ability there at Louisville going through progress. and all. But anyway, this is ridiculous. 41 to 4. And he also ran for just under a thousand. As you know, that said, I'm going to go Derek Henry because number one, I think Henry is more of an outlier at his position. I mean, he's an outlier in general, but he's also an outlier in that, how many guys, the offense goes through him? You know, and maybe there will be games when it's not exactly that, but if you're rolling with Derek Henry, your backfield, your offense kind of goes through him. Let's be honest. And, you know, I think there are very, it's a very good quarterback

depth. It's probably a good year to hold off. I do think that there, there is a drop off. After the top five quarterbacks for sure. But I think you can still do really well. Whereas it, running back, you know, look, there's going to be viable picks in the third, fourth, fifth, maybe even sixth, seventh round, like guys who could really kick ass. But Henry, and this is unlike me, because I'm an agist, is just, he's just money in the bank. I see him out there climbing hills this month and, you know, doing like a Jerry Rice like workout regimen. I'm like, he's going to do it again in this very good situation. So a little bit of a scarcity issue. I mean, there's only a handful of truly foundational runners in the league.

And Henry's on that list, whereas there are a few more Cheek-Co quarterbacks, basically. Yeah, I think I'm with you. And I like Lamar a lot. I think Lamar is still an edge pick in the fourth round. But Derek Henry in round two, if Derek Henry was 27 after last season, he'd be going like seventh overall.

Instead, you're able to get him, you know, after pick 15. I like Devon A-chan inside of round two as well. but I think Henry gives you that really, really strong edge where I can start my draft for the wide receiver, then take Henry. And then to your point with Lamar, I love Lamar, but you can get Jaden Daniels a few picks later. I can get Jalen Hertz around later, sometimes like a round and a half later. And it's difficult to, it's difficult to finish as the QB1 overall in consecutive seasons. Lamar Jackson absolutely can do it. but Derek Henry, I'll ask you this one, John,

we haven't seen a 31-year-old finish with 20 points per game ever in a season. Curtis Martin has the high in terms of a player that played a full year. Curtis Martin was like 19.8 points per game in 2004. Do you think the big dog can hit it this year and have the best season all time for a full season for a 31-year-old? I mean, yeah, I mean, I do. I mean, you know, they're, I mean, to do to average 5.9 yards of carry, not to go basic with it. Maybe the data wasn't incredible, but I mean, the eyeball test was pretty damn good. Just, just missed 2,000 yards, 16 tutties.

Yeah. You know, and there's not much behind them. I guess we'll see. I guess if there's one question, and I'll throw it back to you, I mean, is it possible that they work in Keaton Mitchell as just an explosive change up guy. And that's the only question. But if we're worried about Keaton Mitchell as it relates to Derek Henry, then that would officially qualify

as paralysis, overanalysis, paralysis. But what do you think? Yeah, I think we're going to get booed off the air if we start talking about how Keaton Mitchell is going to hurt the big dog. But I do like Keaton Mitchell a lot. I think he'll be part of the offense. But he's more of a, I think he, like people thinking that they're going to get Justice Hill and he's going to

be the handcuff. I think Keaton Mitchell would be the more valuable one if Henry misses time. And I think mixing in Mitchell, he's probably the fastest Raven skill position player. Yeah. Getting him like four or five touches a game makes a lot of sense to make that offense even more dynamic. But hey, John, we'll see Keaton Mitchell rip off a 45-yard run, gets tackled inside the five.

That's just more points for the big dog. So there we go. There you go. Justice Hill. Yeah. Justice Hill will be a factor, though. They freaking love that guy. Yeah, they do.

They just re-signed him. That's a Harbaugh guy. I just think like, he's so, he's, he's, he's, He's a very good pass catcher, but the explosiveness as a runner, I think Mitchell would be. Absolutely. Check out the Waverwire all year long. And hopefully we don't have to discuss Derek Henry injury or him missing time because Sundays are better with the big dog. Let's also talk about another difficult one.

And certainly two players were very, very high on at fantasy points. Chris Wecht, our projections guru, has Pukunakua finishing as the wide receiver too. But he also has Devonte Adams finishing inside of the top 10. wide outs. So right now, Pooka Nakuha costs you a first round pick. Somewhere in that 8 to 10 range, usually is where you can get Puka. Occasionally he goes a little higher, but I'd say that's comfortable, rarely last to the 1-2 turn. And then you have Devante Adams, who settled in right around the end of the third round. Devante Adams averaged 17 and a half points per game last year on two bottom eight offenses. Nakuwa has just been an unbelievable source of fantasy production.

for two straight seasons. Do you feel more dangerous going with Puka at the end of the first or getting Devante Adams at around the three four turn? Very tough one here because, you know, again, I am an ageist for sure. But, you know, there are some exceptions. And, you know, one of my little rules that I pulled out of a couple of seasons ago was, okay, I will, I'm not touching a 29 plus year. wide receiver if he's somewhat costly.

I mean, we're talking eighth, ninth, tenth round and beyond, okay. But if he's a fifth or sixth round pick, I'm not touching a 29 year old receiver or older unless he's a lock for Canton. And going into last year, I made three exceptions, Devante Adams, Tyree Kill. And she's who is the, oh, um, oh, um, oh my. God. It wasn't, it was not, uh, Keenan Allen, by the way, because he, digs. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. I mean, why am I struggling with that? But, uh, anyways, um, but Devante Adams is a future hall of famer. Oh, Mike Evans. Mike Evans. Yeah, yeah. Um, Devante Adams is a hall of famer. Uh,

Devante Adams has never won with elite quickness per se. Uh, I mean, it's, there's a and creativity and body control and things like that. Just overall savviness, you know, you see his yard per reception number was actually the highest he's posted since 2020. So I do think a la, you know, an old school guy like Jerry Rice, you know, I'm old enough to remember Jerry Rice. I played fantasy. I started playing fantasy when Jerry Rice was like 24 years old. But I also remember drafting him when he was 40. and it wasn't a problem.

I wasn't worried about it. So back then, back in the day, like, okay, he's 33. Big whoop. Now I panic when I see a 33-year-old, again, unless they're elite and Hall of Famers. Puka also does have his availability concerns. And you just have to have a lot of confidence in Devante Adams based on the offense and McVeigh. And, you know, McVeigh sending him cutups of the system as it relates to things that he does

very well. Like, you know, Devante didn't probably take much to sell him on that notion. So I think it's going to go well. So I'm going to go Devante there. Yeah, I like them both. And we're not, we're not taking that cop-out answer for this one. So I think I'm going to agree with you. Devante Adams at the end of the third round, you could potentially get that 17.

5 points per game season just on repeat. But I think there's also an opportunity that he could score higher than he did last year. the environment in L.A. is going to be so good. And we've seen it in years past where if defenses try to take away something in L.A., Sean McVeigh is the type of offensive mind where he'll target a guy 20 times in a game. He'll just keep going back to the well over and over again. So I think you could get some really special weeks out of Devante Adams. You had them last year in New York, and you're going to get him this year in L.A.

this is the best sort of situation he's been in offensively in so long. And I think that the market is a little too low on him. He's probably a little bit more worthy of like a two, three turn pick. Whereas Puka, I love, love Puka Nakuwa. But Puka Nakua is being priced right now where he has to give you that wide receiver one overall type season. There's other options at the end of the first round and the third round. I think DeVante is the best possible wide receiver pick you can make.

we're going to take a quick break. We come back. We're talking about the Atlanta Falcons. And should drafters be investing in Bejan Robinson as a top three overall pick? Or is the edge Drake London in the middle of the second round right after this? Black Friday is here at IKEA and the clock is ticking on savings you won't want to miss. Join IKEA family for free today and unlock deals on everything from holiday must-haves to cozy at-home essentials. all the little and big things you need to make this season shine.

But don't wait. Like leftovers at midnight, our Black Friday offers won't last. Shop now at IKEA.ca.ca. Black Friday. IKEA, bring home to life. Welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily. Theo Greminger with John Hansen, the guru. John, the Atlanta Falcons last year, Michael Pennix takes over, end of the season.

We've got some confidence in Zach Robinson. We talked about Sean McVeigh in L. LA. It's a very Sean McVeigh-esque offense there. Robinson, I was hard on to start out the year, but end of the year, he really proved me wrong. I have a lot of confidence in both of these players at EAP. Bejohn Robinson has flipped Seaquin Barclay right now. He's the number two running back on Underdog. We'll see if that holds up when we get to the end of August. FFPC drafters are also having to use the top three pick on Bejon. Bejon was exceptional last year. He had 360 touches. He had over 60 receptions, 15 touchdowns on the season.

And Drake London had a really strong year and a fantastic finish. In games where Michael Pennick started, Drake London had a 39% target share. Air Yard share was off the chart. And Drake London's a guy where we've sort of been waiting for that alpha type profile to shine through gives you a top six finish at the wide receiver spot last year. being mentioned by some, including myself, as a dark horse candidate to be the wide receiver one overall. So between Bejohn and Drake London at cost, where are you at? Yeah, that's another tough one.

I did like Drake London. I wasn't a huge Drake London guy coming out, but I wasn't against him. I always tell the story because I did have some what I call separation anxiety. Can he line up on the outside consistently against like press man coverage and get separation? my guy Roddy White, former Falcon great. He went to training camp and watched him for a week. And I'm like, you got to give me the deal. He's like, oh, no, he can do it.

I'm like, all right. I'm fine with him, but I didn't push him. Last year I did push him. And again, he was good. But I'm going to go Bijam. Whenever I see a running back who is truly elite, who is proven durable, who is also versatile, and dude's 23.

I mean, all year he'll be 23. All year. unless they make it to the Super Bowl, which they're not, he'll be 23 for the entirety of the season. I'm not passing up on that. I mean, he is an absolute stud. I mean, overused word maybe, but he's elite. 61 grabs, eyeball test passing out the ying yang with this guy. He's unbelievable.

I think he's one of the most talented running backs. He's in that elite tier over the last 20 years. you know, there were a lot of cops to Ledainian coming out. And guess what? I ran it up to flagpole with Ledanyan himself. He was like, oh, yeah, absolutely. So I'm going Team Bejohn. I take him at one overall.

By the way, Theo, I've had him over Seekwon the entire year. I'm out on Seekwon. I think the easiest play is under 1,500 yards, by the way. It's a prop for Seekon because he's going to, we really going to average 100 yards in 15 games again. I mean, if he's available, he probably will. But hey, I don't think so. Yeah, I had Dave Kluge of football guys on this show a couple of last week. And we made our predictions for who finishes as at the top at every single position.

And I had Bejohn as the RB1 overall as well. As much as I love London and I have bags and bags of Drake London right now, I love him in the middle of the second. But Bejohn, if I have the 101, I'm taking Jamar Chase. If I have the 102, 103, Bejohn's been an auto pick for me. He's exceptionally talented. We've just for like, the community forgets just how head over heels we were about him coming out of Texas, the draft capital he had.

It's almost inevitable that he's going to give us a RB1 overall finish at some point in his career. It feels like this could be like the peak Todd Gurley year for him, the 25 point per game season. So I'm with you on Bejohn there. but again draft the hell out of Drake London. You get the green light for that one. So I'm on Long Island here.

You were in Jersey last week. The New York Jets, there's some cautious optimism in the streets right now. Justin Fields is back on the football field as a starting quarterback. And the vibes are pretty strong with him. The Tanner Engstrand offense, you get the Ben Johnson disciple coming over to New York. It's Aaron Glenn's first year. They've made big investments on the offensive line. consecutive NFL drafts.

Yeah. Both of these players that we're going to talk about, John, like for two straight years were premium premium assets. Breece Hall was going as a lock first round pick last year. Now you get them inside a round four. Garrett Wilson was a like early second round pick and the year before was a one two turn type selection in high stakes drafts. So Garrett Wilson in round three or Bruce Hall in round four, what's the better

value if the New York Jets offense beats expectations and one of these players really, really hits. Yeah. First and foremost, I am not down on Garrett Wilson. And one of the lessons I learned a couple of years ago was, I mean, I do believe that Justin Fields does, in fact, stink, not for fantasy, just in pure NFL terms. You know, I call them a 1.25 reed quarterback, you know, basically like maybe, maybe not a one Reed quarterback. We're pretty damn close. That said, I incorrectly kind of dogged my guy, DJ Moore, a couple of years ago, and he was good.

You know, it's not like Justin Fields ruined DJ Moore's chances of being a wide receiver one that year, I believe, right, in 2023. So I think we're looking at something very similar here with Garrett Wilson in terms of massive volume because, I mean, look, Al-Lazar, Josh Reynolds, that's not great. Malachi Corley didn't really get many opportunities last year. They're probably breaking in a new tight end with Mason Taylor. So I think Garrett Wilson is going to be good. But that said, I am going to go pre-s-all again.

I hate to do it because I kind of, look, I've been in on Brise Hall every year. And, you know, there's been a few years where it was a great call until it wasn't. You know, last year it wasn't a great call. Last year I had my flawless four that I was aggressively targeting at running back. and it was Bejohn, Gibbs, Taylor, and Hall. Not bad. You know, those guys kind of overall were fairly flawless, but the most flawed guy, ironically, was Breece Freakin'

Hall. Part of the problem, I think, and I know this, because I took a couple of briefful props at the end of the year in terms of receiving. Aaron Rogers out there, stat patent with his boy, Devante Adams, left like a thousand yards on the field receiving for Breece Hall toward the end of the season. but, you know, I know that there's talk of the running back committee with Aaron Glenn and the new OC coming over there and all that.

But I, and I'm, and we're going to get another guy or two in the mix here. And they've been talking about the third. But here's the problem. Isaiah Davis, what was he, a seventh rounder? I mean, he's pretty good. I saw him at the senior ball and he popped a little bit, six, seventh rounder. And he was pretty good last year. Braylon Allen, is, isn't that good.

I mean, these guys aren't needle movers like Breeze Hall. is. So with the cost down a little bit, with the offensive line looking as good as it's looked, dare I say in a decade, with the offense being run heavy, obviously, with Breece Hall being in the final year's rookie deal, another year removed from the ACL recovery, and with a very good schedule per Scott Barrett's strength of schedule article, I'm back, baby. I'm in on Brice Hall again. Yeah, I think like I like Bruce Hall in round four, but I think I'm going to I'll butt heads with you on this one. Garrett Wilson for me, you bring up the DJ Moore season. We talk about the the teammate competition. There's nothing there in New York. So even if

Justin Fields is sort of a one read kind of guy, there's Mason Taylor at tight end who we like John, but they were talking about 21, 22 year old tight end. Breast Hall's probably, number two target on the team. And that's a great argument to Bruce Hall. But for me, Garrett Wilson, it's just a, the vibes are there. Aaron Glenn's talked about getting him the ball. I think they're going to be super aggressive with the RPO system. I think it'll bode well. I think it's a situation where if Justin Fields is okay and the offensive line is a little bit better than expected, I think Garrett Wilson and Bruce Hall are going to pay off at ADP. But I'll go with Garrett Wilson here. And I do worry a little bit.

I worry anytime a new coach shows up that the appeal of Braylin Allen, I think really it's a, Bruce Hall is like a better Aaron Jones at this point in like what we saw in Green Bay. And Braylon Allen sort of like in that AJ Dillon role. But when you get the ex player, you get Aaron Glenn in there. And they've talked about Raylan Allen, this 21 year old 245 pounder. Is there a threat that he's used a little bit around the goal line this year, taking away some of that ceiling for Breel in terms of the running production.

I just worry about that a little bit. For me, I'd feed the hell out of Breece Hall, but I worry about the allure of Braylon Allen there if they do work him in. So I'll go Garrett Wilson on that one. Let's talk about another really fun one. Jacksonville Jaguars, Brian Thomas Jr. going inside the first round, usually one-two turn, 11 overall picks. Some of them along those lines was exceptional as a rookie.

then you get Travis Hunter, who was the number two overall pick in the NFL draft, and you're getting him in the sixth round. So two really exciting wide receivers, BTJ in round one or Travis Hunter in round six. You mentioned Jacksonville as an offense you have your eye on with Liam Cohen taking over. Who's the better value for drafters here? You know, I'm going to go with the more expensive one. sometimes it is easy to cop out and go oh let's just go with the cheap guy right as you kind of alluded to earlier but i'm going to go b tj here and i do i do think back to the draft when when you and i were on the air live uh here on the fantasy points of feed when this pick happened and as soon as it happened i'm like oh he's a receiver guys uh i think there was some brushback in the in the room like no no no he's he's going to be mostly receiver uh based on the the capital based on the the status of the roster and all that.

And that, we're not into camp yet, but that seems to have held. So I do think he's going to play a lot of receiver. But, you know, it's interesting because I undersold Brian Thomas last year. Why? Well, I got what ended up being bad information, basically, from, you know,

one of the coaches there second hand that, you know, might be a little bit of a work in progress. They did have Gabe Davis last year. They still had Christian Kirk. You know, it might be a little slow out of the gate. Obviously, that was not the case. You know, he didn't run a expansive route tree there at LSU, right? He was kind of just their deep threat, right?

And that was like the primary deal as Malik Neighbors was all over the place. And I had heard that, you know, again, he'd need some more reps in that regard. But here's the intangible quality that makes this our jobs difficult. Like they didn't know, I don't think, that he was going to pick up the offense as quickly and as well as he did, which tells me he's got elite football intelligence. So physically, I mean, the guy's a stud. He absolutely passed the eyeball test. So adding it all up, I think even though he's a lot more expensive, I think BTJ is the safer pick, the better ROI. I mean, that's a wide receiver one.

You could anchor that dude and not take another wide out for two, three, four rounds. outs. Yeah, I'm with you on this one. I've drafted them both. I drafted BTJ at the one to turn and FFPC Maine. I drafted Travis Hunter in the sixth round. I think they're both edge picks because of the indecision at the running back position. There might not be a running back in Jacksonville that ever commands a ton of touches. I think it's to be very wide receiver centric. But when it comes to BTJ, he's going to be peppered with targets this year. And they're going to have this elite wide receiver one usage and the presence of Travis Hunter allows Liam Cohen to kick BTJ inside the slot, which he's talked about doing, which we didn't see at all last year. So you open up those

kind of easy button looks for BTJ on top of what we saw last year. He's just an exceptional talent. He, it sort of like reminds me of of peak Josh Gordon where he was just a weapon of mass destruction and you get this huge wide receiver and keeps putting up 25 points, 25 points, 25 points. Hunter, I think the way that he beats us here is he scores a ton of touchdowns. And he has a bunch of spike weeks where it's like end of the year. You're like, I could have had Travis Hunter in the sixth round. He has 12 touchdowns on the year. But in terms of the weekly usage, BTJ, it's going to be unbelievable.

But I think both are okay at their price. But BTJ, I think gives you an edge still. Really, really excited about him this season. And I know a lot of people at fantasy points are as well. let's stay in the state of Florida. Let's go with a potential bounceback offense. Devon A. Chan, we talked about earlier going around Derek Henry, and he's not part of this conversation. We're going to focus in on the wide receivers in Miami.

And at this time last year, Tyreek Hill was a top three pick right alongside CD Lamb, right alongside Christian McCaffrey. Hill was coming off of this unbelievable year and averaged like 23 points a game in 23. And Jalen Waddle was not too far behind them. Jail and Waddle was being drafted right around wide receiver 14 land. He had that big contract extension in the off season, three straight thousand yard seasons to start his career. And you had to use like a mid third round pick on Jail and Waddle. So both were expensive and both failed. Like two of the worst picks you could have made last year were Hill and Waddle. John Smith's gone. So it should be a little more consolidated. And the vibes

at least from the beat reporters, they're saying the right things. Everybody's happy about Tyreek and everybody's happy about Waddle. Right now you're able to get Tyreek Hill inside the third round. Goes a couple picks before Devante Adams. And Jalen Waddle goes right around wide receiver 30, wide receiver 31, somewhere in the sixth round. So huge, huge drop-offs from their ADP last year.

Yeah. Which one is the better bet to make? Really tough one. because again, I'm programmed to default to the young guy almost every time. But I do think, you know, hey, we've seen it where we're older guys, you know, bounce back or keep it going. And I think Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey getting those two guys right. And the easy answer is just fade them.

They're old, especially Kelsey. But I kind of have a good vibe on both. I really hate to say it. A lot of people talking about how maybe Tyree could be traded. This is a really tough one because I feel like I could easily make the argument for Jalen Waddle, who is really good and very athletic and very talented, all that good stuff. But he was kind of like MIA for a lot of last year. I'm leaning Tyreek in that, you know, you do worry about falling off a cliff. But, you know, he, I think he was dealing with some

mentals, you know, he had the surgery on the wrist. I know it's not related to his movement. I'm a little concerned how defenses seemed to figure out the offense. They weren't afraid of playing man to man. So it's a little dangerous. But, you know, again, it was just, what, 55 weeks ago. We were ready to take Tyreek at three overall, right? Yeah.

It's really like, I really wanted to make an argument when this on the show sheet. and I even talked about Waddle like yesterday. And I think Waddle can beat his ADP and give you a win. But that win might be wide receiver 20. And you're like, oh, I drafted the guy, wide receiver 31. He's wide receiver 20. That's sort of a micro win when it comes to Waddle. When it comes to Tyreek, you know, this is,

I don't want to get like head over heels. But if everything's, if they're able to block and the offensive line sort of beats expectations, and if two is able to stay on the field, then I think you could get back to Tyree Kill, he had a near 30% target share in 2023 as well. So you're talking about like the peak ceiling outcome for Tyree Kill is really, really scary, whereas Waddle feels like a guy who's going to give me an ADP win,

but not something could really affect my draft. Tyree Kill could also just destroy your draft. He's a 31 year old. We've had issues. with him in the past, but right now the vibes seem really good, both internally and with Hill himself. John, the guy lost like 10 pounds this off season. Like he's in great shape. I'm into that.

You saw him running the race off the field. Like the guy's lightning in a bottle. It looks like he could go and be on like a like preparing for the Olympics. Olympic team, yeah. Yeah, it's just unbelievable. So he's motivated. And also there's been a lot of talk that this could be Tyree Kills last year in Miami. Right.

A lot of the beat reporters are saying that. I think he's looking at that next contract. I know a couple years ago he talked about retirement and all that, but I think Tyree Kill is not done. So one big year in Miami, I think you see him on another contender next year. And if he has this sort of bad stuff off the field, this could be his last year in the NFL.

I think that after last year, it's getting back to that alpha wide receiver one type production. It's in the realm of possibilities. And I just don't think we have that with Waddle. so I'll go with the more expensive option as well. Let's go with a really tough one. This is a three. I'm going to give you, you know what?

I might as well give you four players on this one. Okay. The Detroit Lions lose Ben Johnson. Okay. It's going to be pretty much a lot of the same. John Morton takes over. He's got familiarity with the Dan Campbell system. Offensive line loses Frank Ragnall,

but we still have them ranked as a top five line on Scott D. Benedetto's article over at Fantan. fantasy points. All the lions are expensive and for good reason. Let's go Jamir Gibbs in the early portion of the first. Amon Ross St. Brown at the one two turn. Jameson Williams in the sixth round. And then let's throw, let's throw Sam LaPorta in the mix, too, as the tight end four. And I'll leave the ADPP out of LaPorte because some of you play FFP, some of you play FPC, some of you play NFFC, some you play sleeper. He sort of moves all around.

Let's call him the tight end four, though. So it's a premium tight end pick. Who's your favorite line to draft this year after the offensive coordinator change? You know, this time last year, I was out on the port. I'm like, you know, there was like over 8% touchdown rate. I'm like, guys, he's not going to replicate that. You know, maybe I got lucky, but he didn't. I do like him to bounce back a little bit.

I was in on Jameson as one of my top breakout receivers. Unfortunately, it was him and Christian Watson, them were my two top breakout receivers. I guess we got one of them, right? And I feel like we're still ascending with JMO, right? I feel like we're bulking up a little bit, maybe do a little bit more. I mean, what's this year four now?

But I'm still going to go Gibbs just because he's just so damn good. And, you know, he's another guy, I believe he's 23 years old. You know, if I get a chance to draft a guy with this profile, 23 years old all year. He'll be 23 all year. We've got two years in the books. We've got 500 plus touches. He's absolutely elite.

He's durable. He's versatile. They will be run heavy. No, Dave Montgomery is there. But Gibbs is too good, man. He's too good to keep off the field. 300 touches last year. I think the role is increasing ever so slightly.

So I can see him at 27. to 75, you know, maybe another couple of carries a game, basically. Not much, but hey, another 25 carries will give us probably another, what, buck 50, buck 75. So I'm going to go Gibbs. Yeah, I mean, if we're looking for a player who can break fantasy football, if all the things that we've talked about with Bijon Robinson, Jamir Gibbs can outscore him this year if they simply go 65% Jamir Gibbs,

35% David Montgomery, and they get away from the 50-50. because we saw what Jemir Gibbs could do down the stretch last year. We saw what he could do against Washington in the playoff loss. Just unbelievable how talented he is. More touchdowns in his first two seasons in the league than Barry Sanders had. And that's despite David Montgomery given you. David Montgomery's had like 25 touchdown runs in 28 games. The Lion Gibbs has scored 30 plus.

John, he's also got that incredible potential as a receiver where when he was coming out of Alabama, we were talking about this could be Reggie Bush. Camara. Yeah, Camara. And he's had back to back years where he's been really efficient as a receiver. Ryan Heath has written about this how like on a per target basis, yards per route run, targets per route run. He checks off a bunch of boxes.

But in terms of the raw target total, what if John Morton's like, you know what? We're going to get the ball in Jemir gives his hands out of the backfield more. And let's just get the guy 80 catches. So he could break fantasy this year. To me, he's a much better pick than Alman Ra is. And I'll say that Jameson Williams, the best value of these lions. I can't stop drafting him. But Jemir Gibbs, if you're searching for a league winner, it's Gibbs.

Let's take a quick break. We come back. We're talking about another exciting offense, Cincinnati Bengals. And should be drafting T. Higgins or Chase Brown. They're both going in the same round range. All right, John, we're back. and the Cincinnati Bengals, Jamar Chase 101,

we're leaving them off the board. We all like Jamar Chase at fantasy points. We don't need to talk about it. But T. Higgins had a fantastic year last year, as did Chase Brown. Both these players have rocket ships in ADP. Last year we were able to get both of them in terms of like a decent value.

Chase Brown was one of the best ADP returns at any position last year. It was being drafted through neck and neck with Zach Moss, laughable at this time. Chase Brown gave you, RB one production. Now he's sort of being treated like a low end RB1 inside a round three, going ahead of guys like Bruce Hall, ahead of guys like Kenneth Walker, Chase Brown's really earned it. T. Higgins was over 18 points per game last year, had that unbelievable game in the fantasy

football playoffs against Denver where he sort of won people fantasy leagues. Now T. Higgins going inside around three as well alongside guys like we talked about like Garrett Wilson's, the Tyree kills, T. Higgins or Chase Brown? If I'm looking for a number two score on Cincinnati, who's the better bet to have a great season, Chase Brown or T. Higgins? I'm Chase Brown all the way. I mean, clearly a Belcal role awaits.

Somaget P. Ryan added, very good pass protector, bigger guy. Although Chase Brown, as I've pointed out a million times, I've met him, I've interviewed him in person, jacked up. He's got a pretty damn big upper body. And I'm sure he's been working hard. to get a little bit more stronger to handle, you know, the volume that is forthcoming because I'm not expecting Diddley Poo from Zach Moss. We'll keep an eye on the rookie Brooks, Tosh Brooks.

But I think Chase Brown, what was he? After week three, RB6? Yeah, just unbelievable. Unbelievable. The, you know, the data wasn't amazing. I mean, I've kind of noticed in the summer and I wrote about it in my good vibes, bad vibes oracle about you know you probably want to get another back involved here maybe his vision isn't all that great but they are switching up the system uh they let the uh the o line coach

go from from last year frank pollock uh who i have a great frank pollock story but that's another day he's a story for another day uh but uh the new scheme is going to be more like quick hitters and things like that and that's that's good for chase brown so i think again big time volume Bell Cowroll, great dude, been durable. I'm in. I think he's a great pick in the third round. I mean, that is a, put it this way, that is a damn good RB1 in the third and an unbelievable RB2 in the third.

Yeah, I, I really like T. Higgins this year, but I think that I'm with you on Chase Brown. I had Chase Brown higher in my rankings. I did a top 50 overall rankings and fantasy. points. There'll be an update to that soon. But Chase Brown, I had a right around 20 overall. So you're getting a sort of a discount where you're getting them in the third round based on where I have them. And John, you know, this Cincinnati offense, it's set up where all of them could return value. Joe Burrow could beat his ADP, Higgins, Brown. Chase could repeat wide receiver one overall. It's a team that looks like they're going to be in a lot of shootouts.

With Chase Brown, I think that there's a chance that he, his role expands as a receiver this year just with experience. And he was good last year as a past catcher. So I think he's he's capped in terms of the carries where last year was 220 something carries. But I do think we have room to run in terms of the reception totals for him and just the comfort level that Cincinnati has for him. I mean, you're talking about a guy who had like four games of note as a rookie and then had this massive leap last year. And like you said, had to overcome sort of a slow start. Chase Brown is a really, really good pick. And structure-wise, I can go with two straight wide receivers.

I can take a wide receiver in Brock Bowers. And I catch up quickly with Chase Brown. He'll be 15 points per game or more this year. I feel pretty comfortable about that unless he gets injured. Let's keep this going. The Los Vegas Raiders, John, we talk about this in the pre-show. There's a ton of enthusiasm here. Pete Carroll returns to the NFL.

Chip Kelly is hired as his offensive coordinator. There's a ton of enthusiasm about the coaching staff. They go get Gino Smith this offseason, a big quarterback improvement. Draft Ashton Genty inside the first round last year, a back that we were head over heels for at fantasy points, number one pick in every single dynasty format. And you've got Brock Bowers who had arguably the best rookie season of all time for a receiver, broke Pukunakua's record for the most receptions despite playing the tight-end. position at 21 years old.

Now you're having to pay for it, John. Where Brock Bowers in like an underdog or an NFFC, you're having to pay right around the mid second round price tag. And now FFPC, tight end premium, Bowers is costing you a top five, top six pick. Ashton Genty, you're able to get somewhere around that one two turn. And really the only reason Genty's not more expensive is sort of the steam that we're seeing with Christian McCaffrey. So Genty, you're, it's a little cheaper than we maybe thought he would be going when we talked about him on draft night over here on the Fantasy Points YouTube channel.

They're both really appealing. They're both really talented. But who's the better pick for you in fantasy football? It's going to go with the young running back again whenever you get a chance to draft someone young and elite and special. I know he hasn't done a crap in the NFL, but I'm in on that. he is one of the most talented running backs to come out the last 10 years. You know, I don't even know what transcendent means anymore. You know, I would say Bijon is transcendent if we're looking at over the last 10 years

and current guys in the league. I think Gentis should be right there on top potential in the passing game. I don't see much here in the backfield, by the way, maybe Dylan Lobby, because I know they love him and he's a great dude. I've interviewed him myself. Maybe, but he, I mean, it's a different system, coaches, but they didn't give him crap last year. I mean, you know, I think he's best known for dancing at training camp or whatever.

But, you know, I think Gentie has a chance to get that third down role. And again, whenever I have a chance, if I get a chance, I'm looking to get a running back, I mean, I'm not locked in on Gentie, but I'll take them in the top 12. You had mentioned Barry Sanders, by the way, I took Barry Sanders. Sanders at 10 overall in 1989 and people thought it was crazy. I would say it's it's probably it would probably be like taking Gentie this year at one overall.

Maybe mine was a little ballsy because I mean to compare in the same league couple years later, Marshall Falk, everyone knew he was great. He was like a fourth round pick. Yeah, it's Genty is this is a really, really hard one. And that's why I put it on the sheet. Like you talk about drafting players cheaper. than they will be the next year. There's a chance to Ashen Genties

is the number one pick in 2026 drafts. It's like as much as we talk about with Gibbs and Robinson and Jamar Chase, if Ashen Genti could lead all running backs in touches this year, nothing behind him. It's going to be a fast-paced offense. I took Ashton Genty at like the 202 in a main, which was exceptional value.

Yeah, he felt we got the cheapest one. Shout out to my draft partner, Dan Williamson, on that one. but we had Dan, Dan was on this show a couple weeks back. We reviewed that team, but Genty sort of fell into our laps there. I took him with Puk and Akua, so pretty good start. But that being said, I love Brock Bowers. And I think Brock Bowers, the edge Brock Bowers could give us, and we're talking about like peak outcome.

He could end up being a 20 point per game tight end. And he could end up, like, I love Trey McBride, I love George Kittle. I think that what the peak Bowers season could be. And Scott's talked about this. Like Scott loves Bowers. He brings up the fact that we've never seen a receiver on a Pete Carroll team catch 100 balls. I think Bowers could be the first one. And he's doing it at the tight end position.

So I will go Brock Bowers. But again, I love Ashton Jentie as well. This is a tough one. And we did this, you know, shout out to Joe Dolan and Trey that we put it together. The biggest question mark for each AFC team. We love the NFC version coming on Fantasy Points YouTube. And make sure you're subscribed. If you're listening to this on the podcast, make sure you subscribe to Fantasy Points, YouTube.

We've added a ton of followers recently. It helps us out a lot and it costs you nothing. It's a great way to support the channel, even if you're just a podcast listener. But we talked about how the expectations in Vegas can they deliver. I think these two players are talented enough that they can both deliver here. John, there's a chance next year in FFPC drafts. You have two Raiders inside the top five. It's absolutely wild.

Wow. So I'll draft them both this year, but give me Bauer. head to head. Let's go real quick on this one. Seattle Seahawks. There's some enthusiasm there. Clint Kubiak comes over from New Orleans. I know Scott Barrett's a huge fan of Clint Kubiak, Ryan Heath as well. Kubiak has a chance to sort of defy expectations. Seattle drafted Zabel in the first round, the NFL draft. There's sort of the hope that their offensive lines a lot better this year. Jackson Smith and Jigba had 100 catches last year, tied for the most in franchise history had his big breakout year.

And Kenneth Walker is in a really good spot. Walker in the fourth round or JSN in round three. Do you have a lean on which Seattle Seahawk player is going to return the most value to fantasy managers this year? We don't want to hold drudges. But I was not a Walker guy coming out. And I said, look, I get it. He does move like a stud at times. He like teleports on the field.

but he also gets stuffed a lot. He kind of runs the daylight sometimes, and sometimes it works out. Sometimes it gets stonewalled. The number of games, if you look at his game logs, where he's like under 3.5 yards of carry. But again, he is very, very talented.

To me, there's a couple other things. One difference is the fact that they drafted Damien Martinez, who is good. It's another very capable body. Jacques Charbonnet's, I was never that in him. He kind of is a little bit of a jag. But I'm going to go JSM because I just think it's sometimes they just look too easy.

You know, I wasn't a huge JSN guy either. I preferred Addison and Zay Flowers that year. There was those. I had them as tied for my 1A and 1B over JSN. That said, JSN is good. The only concern is can he line up outside? I know we've got the data that says, yes, he can. Granted, Sam Darnold isn't great.

So that's a little bit of a concern. But I think a good fit for the offense, a lot of play action. So, I mean, it's the obvious answer is JSN is going to take over as the alpha in this offense. So I'm going to go JSN. I think it's, I think it's a pretty slam dunk. I mean, you get him in the third round. Like, he's going to do it again. He's going to catch over 90.

He's going to be good unless he gets hurt. Yeah, I'm with you. And I love walking. I've drafted a lot of Walker. I'm comfortable taking Walker inside a round four. But JSN seems like an edge where he's going, whereas Walker feels like a really strong structural pick. With JSN, I think the market's being a little too low on him

because like you said, Sam Darnold, they're not enthusiastic about new offensive coordinator. But I think Seattle's got a plan for JSN. The slot snaps are not going to completely disappear. They will use Cooper Cup on the outside, a lot as a blocker. and you're going to end up seeing JSN being more versatile this year. He's still the guy that's going to get the force-fed targets. But there's a chance we get more of those down the field, higher a dot looks.

JSN, I think, is going to be drafted higher next year than he is this year. I think we're going to look back and say JSN was a value in 2025 drafts. John, this is a lot of fun, man. We went through a lot of teams. We covered an absolute lot of cool. decisions. Let everybody know once again what you have coming out and where they can find your pod. Well, yeah, right on the Fantasy Points podcast feed, I guess we have a bunch of different feeds, but it's like the main one, the Fantasy Points podcast, just look for my name and Brian Drake.

We're still once a week now. I think we probably will keep it at that until the regular season, but then we'll kick into two times a week Monday morning after the games, Friday morning, previewing the game. I'm still going to do Hanson's Hints, like a, was it 10 am. Eastern every Wednesday. Not Hansen's, hence, uh, hump day with Hansen. We have so many damn names here, so much alliteration. Uh, so I'll do that on YouTube, take questions. So I'm going to do the players to trade and trade for article and Hanson's Hints, which is a weekly preview article. I'm going to try and cut it down a little bit because it only took me about 26 hours a week last year for that one article. And then in the preseason, by the way, I'm, I'm, I'm working.

on it. I'm almost done. My draft plan manifesto. I've been doing that for 20 years. And then I do another one when training camps get underway where I go team by team and just talk about the vibes. Good vibes, bad vibes. I'm a big vibes guy. People like it. It's been, you know, pretty pretty much the same deal as last year. Yeah, make sure you're checking up on all the vibes and correlating it to the upcoming season. It's a pretty good way to do it. So I'll continue to do that. So yeah, pretty much the same deal as last year. Yeah. Make sure you're checking out everything John does. you're checking on everything we're doing over at Fantasy Points, some awesome articles coming out, Fantasy Points, data, the best source of data to help you get that extra edge this year. Make sure you're following all of our podcasts. We've been having a great, great, great summer. We're going to have a fantastic finish to July and a really strong August as well.

School of Scott with Pat Corain this week was great. J.J. Zachariason episodes also coming out very, very soon. Dynasty Life, I've been putting out an episode a week. I've got Shane Manila of Destination Devi coming on this week. And Graham Barfield will be back on Fantasy Football Daily with me soon. We're everywhere here at Fantasy Points. We're going to help you crush your leagues this season.