Fantasy Football Daily - The 2025 Fantasy Football Top Target Earners You NEED to Know w/ Graham Barfield Pt. 1
Episode Date: June 9, 2025Graham Barfield joins the show to break down the real target hierarchies that matter most heading into the 2025 fantasy season. From WR1 locks like Chase & Puka to rising TE threats like McBride and B...owers, we dive deep into the clearest pass-catching pecking orders — and the murkiest battles you need to monitor. 🚨 Who’s the true WR1 in Green Bay? 👀 Can Jameson Williams break up the Lions’ top duo? 🔥 Is Ladd McConkey already the alpha in LA? 💣 Is TreVeyon Henderson this year’s surprise RB target magnet? We answer all that and more in the ultimate target volume cheat code episode. If you want to draft smarter and stay ahead of your league, this is the show to lock into. Where to find us: http://twitter.com/TheOGFantasy http://twitter.com/GrahamBarfield Join the Discord here: https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/discord#/ Subscribe to Fantasy Points for FREE: https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/ Fantasy Points Website - https://www.fantasypoints.com NEW! Data Suite - https://data.fantasypoints.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/FantasyPts Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@fantasypts #fantasypoints #nfl #fantasyfootball #dynastyfantasyfootball #FantasyFootballAdvice #dynastypoints #dynasty Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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trying to identify each NFL team's top two target earners for the 2025 fantasy football season.
I'm Theo Graminger, Fantasy Football Daily, joined by Graham Barfield, also of fantasy points.
Graham, we broke down the backfields about a couple weeks ago now.
That was a great conversation, talked about the handcuffs, the starters,
even talked about some handcuffed battles, some potentially interesting number three backs.
Now we're going to take a step further and we're going to try to identify target earners.
it's so important for us in fantasy football to draft guys who are high-end target earners.
Just how important is it, though, Graham?
Volume is the name of the game in fantasy football.
Targets are the lifeblood of fantasy points.
And at the end of the day, you and I can sit on here and wax poetic about players ass all we want.
If they're not earning targets, they don't really matter in fantasy football.
Absolutely.
And all of the statistical data that we're going to reference today comes from fantasy points data.
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And just to unpack sort of what Graham talked about, we have a little like real life sample size to kind of show this.
The number one scoring wide receiver last year, who was the number three target on his team, was Rashad Bateman.
And Rashad Bateman ended up averaging, I'm going to pull up the exact one here.
I believe Rashad Bateman ended up averaging 10.1 points per game last year in PPR leagues.
And that's with him having a very, very high number of touchdown scores.
I believe he had nine touchdown grabs last year.
So this is something where for wide receivers, it's pretty cut and dry.
Excuse me, Bateman was 10.3.
So 10.3 points per game, but it was nine touchdown grabs to sort of push the envelope.
Bateman would have been almost irrelevant if he would have had simply.
like five touchdown grabs last year.
So very, very solid touchdown rate for Bateman, a player with talent, but certainly not
the sort of outcome we would have been on.
At the tight end position, Sam Leporta was a number three target.
He was the leading score among tight ends that was not a top two target, average 10.9
points per game in PPR.
And anybody who drafted Sam Leporta last year was certainly not happy with the results
they got based on the huge ADP they had to spend on him.
Then on the flip side, running back is the one position where these guys, if they end up being a top two target on their team, it's usually a massive, massive win for fantasy football.
But it's not always as important.
Like we want to see with running backs the target share.
Pretty much all of the non-Darick Henry type absolute freak runners, the Sequin Barclay certainly would fit this example.
If Sequan's target share went down, he'd still be a beast in fantasy.
we want to see a plus 10% target share at the running back position,
but we don't necessarily need them to be a top two target earner on their team.
The running back who led the NFL in targets last year was Alvin Kamara,
and he did lead New Orleans in total targets last year.
But the leading reception leader last year was Devon A. Chan,
and he was the third leading target in Miami and still had an unbelievably strong fantasy football season.
So anything to add with the running backs.
And today, Graham, most of our focus is going to be on wide receivers and tight ends.
But there will be a couple of running backs who enter the conversation based on the availability of targets on their team.
We'll talk about the Niners, but I feel really strongly about McCaffrey's target share.
Like once again, like he's always been a player who earns a lot of targets,
but I think there's hidden upside with him.
So we'll save the McCaffrey discussion when we talk Niners.
Yeah, we'll talk about that one early on because that's a super interesting one.
And every single time I podcast with you and Scott Barrett, I've got to hear all this Christian McCaffrey league winner propaganda.
I think it's back all through.
You're going to get the propaganda, bro.
You just got to get used to it.
All summer long, all summer long.
I'm going to have to eventually move him up in my top, top 50, about to be a top 100 rankings over fantasy points.
You can access that.
So let's sort of start out with the news of the day.
Two big fantasy football relevant news drops happened yesterday.
You got to love it, Graham.
Even in June, every single day there's something for us in fantasy football.
but yesterday was very significant.
Anthony Richardson sounds like he could conceivably miss the entire season.
I don't think they were there yet, but it was a lot of gloom and doom.
Will we see him not maybe not until training camp?
And there was a little bit of pessimism in some of the quotes there.
It sounds like it'll be Daniel Jones, at least out the gate.
How well Daniel Jones does with that starting job remains to be seen.
But Jones is certainly going to pass a lot more and a lot more accurate.
than Anthony Richardson.
Who's the big winner here, Graham?
Well, I don't want to go crazy, man.
Like, I don't. Go crazy. Go crazy.
At the end of the day, Dan Jones is like, since his rookie year, he's been a player with like,
a, you know, 2% touchdown rate, like sub 7 YPA, like 6.5, right?
This is definitely a pretty good offensive system.
Stuyken's a good coach. She's got good receivers.
I think when we think, when we're projecting the Colts, like it's two totally different
offenses. The AR offense of last year was extremely run heavy. Obviously, you know, Richardson wasn't
throwing much Theo, but he also like wasn't checking down at all. It was literally just all deep shots or
nothing. Very few progressions over the middle, very few timing and rhythm throws. At the very worst,
we know Daniel Jones can feed receivers in time and in rhythm over the middle. We just saw Josh
Downs post an absolutely elite 0.3 targets per route run last season.
This is a player, Theo, that, you know, all of us at Fantasy Points liked more than Michael
Pittman last season simply just because we're like, hey, we kind of know what this Anthony
Richardson offenses.
Like, we were into Richardson for fantasy simply because of the rushing, but we knew
Pittman was going to be significantly downgraded just because of the volume of this
offense, right?
And we also knew that Downs was pretty close to Pitman.
Pittman last year. Downs is one of the best picks on the board right now. I have kind of come back
to Pittman though, because I think now we can pretty safely project that Daniel Jones is going
to start week one. If he plays well, he'll probably start for the most of the year. You know,
Downs and Pittman have both been working out with Jones's offseason. But, you know, rewind the clock's
two years. Pitman's big breakout season was the RPO spam. He basically was just getting all those like
short RPO targets.
He was really good on him.
I mean, he got open quickly,
flashed the hands,
was really strong through the catch.
And Daniel Jones is pretty good off RPO.
So you have two layers of this offense in terms of just the passing game,
strictly the passing game that is going to be able to come back.
I preface all of this was saying I'm not going too crazy.
But Downs specifically, I think,
is about a round and a half underpriced.
And I would say Pittman's, like,
about a half a round underpriced.
you know, Tyler Warren is a part of this equation as well. Obviously, he was a target earner at Penn State and how he factors in is as a part of this. I'm curious for your thoughts, man, because I loved Warren as a prospect. And like I said, Daniel Jones is capable of throwing the ball, you know, a lot more accurately like you were saying than they are. But Warren is a big part of this and how he kind of like fits into this group. I'm curious for your thoughts on how this will all work out. Yeah. So the first thing that we both agree on,
is Josh Downs is the one you want in Indianapolis.
I think that he last year, you know, for him to lead Indianapolis,
not only in target share, but also in targets per game with what Michael Pitman did
the season before.
That was significant.
For Downs to do that as a year two player was also significant.
He was the only wide receiver to put up any sort of spike weeks alongside Anthony Richardson,
besides, of course, like Alec Pierce, who's not a guy that we can bet on for weekly
predictable targets. So Downs is the one you want. And wide receiver 49 on underdog right now is an
absolute gift. I drafted him in the FFPC best ball tournament last night. I've been drafting
him on underdog. And just like to your to your argument, like Josh Downs or Chris Alabe right now,
Josh Downs or Jerry Judy, Josh Downs or Debo Samuel, Josh Downs or Jacoby Myers. Like he's right there
with those guys in those conversation. And you're talking about Alabe at Widerst.
receiver 37, Judy wide receiver 38, Debo wide receiver 39. Are you there where it's a lobby versus
Downs conversation now with the Jones quarterback takeover? Not only is it a conversation. Like I think
I straight up want downs. Okay, there you go. Yeah. We, we're projecting downs to outscore a lobby by a slight
amount. And it really is. It does come down to this just being a totally different offense. I mean,
And, you know, in the pass rate with, with AR, like, we were projecting it pretty like 52%.
With Dan Jones, it's like, you know, it's reasonable. 60%, you know, they'll be pretty balanced.
It's a huge boost to everybody in this offense, but I'm with you. Downs is the guy that I think
everybody should be drafting right now at cost. Yeah, so Pitman, I mean, Pitman was the leading target
earner last year. You just wouldn't know it. He had a nice, a nice target share. It was 22%. I had 108 targets.
the first read rate was obviously pretty high, but it was second to Downs.
Downs benefits from this absurd slot rate as well.
He's going to be like plus 80% slot rate guy.
Pittman for me, like, do I think he's going to be a top two target earner in Indianapolis?
Yes, I think that would be like crazy for me to say that he's going to get usurped by Tyler Warren.
But I do think Tyler Warren's presence is going to be felt by people investing in Michael Pittman.
Pittman last year had only one week where he was wide receiver 20 or.
or better. So again, it's still even with Jones taking over, we would call this sort of a middle
of the pack offense, not necessarily a top 10 offense. How many past catchers are going to be
supported by Daniel Jones? Not a whole lot of great sample size in New York of Jones like elevating
a lot of past catchers here, Graham. So for me, I bet on downs. And for Pittman, I think he's
going to end up being a purgatory value. There are some smart people like yourself that are sort of on
Pittman this year. I know Pat Corain is as well. I just podcasted with him.
But for me, it's like on Underdog, he's still going at a range where you're taking Pittman alongside all of these contingent upside, really talented young wide receiver bets.
Like in a full range of outcomes argument, if Chris Godwin goes down, a mecha egg buca would tear it up.
If one of the Chicago receivers goes down, Luther Burden's right there.
Like there's a bunch of guys who are more exciting clicks for me.
That's sort of my problem with Pittman.
And back to your Warren reference, last year the Colts didn't target tight ends at all.
The leading tight end target earner had like 14 targets last year.
No Colts tight end had more than a 6% target share.
It was like 6.5% target share for their leading tight end.
So that's obscenely low.
I think that with Tyler Warren, we would bet on him having a pretty high target share.
He's also a manufactured touch guy.
So he's going to have weekly predictable role on this.
team. And he's a little bit older for a rookie, not like a Colson Loveland bet where you're betting on
some young, young player to break through. So for me, Tyler Warren, I'll put as a dark horse
candidate to be the number two target earner in Indianapolis, which would be a huge argument to draft
him as a tight end on your fantasy team because being a top two target earner at the tight end
position is like fantasy football gold for us. It's a simple game really at the tight end spot.
So I think I'm like neutral at best on Pittman, very, very in on downs and pretty enthusiastic about Warren.
My one pushback with the whole Pittman thing.
And again, I'm saying this is a Josh Down's truth.
I love Josh Downs last year.
You look at the seven games that they played with Flacco.
So it's like, okay, give these guys competent quarterback play.
What happened?
Josh Downs average 15.2 PPR points for game two.
That makes him like a low, like a low end.
basically a low-end wide receiver one, like a high-end wide receiver two.
Pittman averaged 11.1.
But remember, Pittman was dealing with that back injury.
He almost went on the IR.
Maybe should have gone on the IR based on the film.
I mean, he was not moving well out there.
So I'm not really holding.
It's two-fold with me with Pittman.
It's one, obviously, the offense held him back.
But, you know, injury discounts are very real.
And I think if we gave them similar, you know, similar quarterback play, you know,
while we fully expect downs to outscore Pittman again,
and he's the better player and all of that.
A four point per game difference is pretty massive.
And based on their talent levels and the opportunity,
you were just mentioning the first reads were, you know,
really close down slightly beat him,
but it was really close.
I just don't think we can expect a four point per game difference between the two.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm in on both kind of.
I know that's kind of like a cop out.
I want to draft more Josh Downs,
but I do think Pittman just technically he is a good value.
So final verdict we both agree on.
Josh Downs will be the number one.
target owner, Michael Pittman, the number two.
I've acquiesced to Graham.
Let's take a quick break.
We come back.
We're talking about Aaron Rogers' impact in Pittsburgh.
Is there anybody to draft besides D.K. Metcalf?
Welcome back to Fantasy Football Daily.
Theo Greminger with Graham Barfield.
Again, all of the data we're referencing is from Fantasy Points data.
The best source of data anywhere in fantasy football is right here at Fantasy Points.
Okay, so let's talk about Pittsburgh.
D.K. Metcalf gets a boost here because
there's quarterback clarity.
We saw FFPC main event drafters pushing him up.
I know Chris Wecht, our projections expert at fantasy points,
has consistently had DK pretty high up in his overall wide receiver projections.
And I think, like Graham, it was always sort of assumed that we'd have some sort of quarterback
clarity with DK.
Now we know it's Aaron Rogers.
Aaron Rogers is not going to set the world on fire,
but he certainly supported Devante Adams last year as his preferred target.
So I think like DK is the clear wide receiver one in Pittsburgh.
I don't think you're going to give me too much pushback on that.
But who's the number two target earner in Pittsburgh?
And do we care about that number two target earner right now?
Nope.
I don't care.
To me, this entire team is just D.K. Metcalf and that's kind of it.
You know, Rogers was, he was fine to close out last season,
but I think we kind of know he's a limited player,
especially, you know, he's just constrained to the pocket now.
You know, the mobility is just completely gone with him.
By the look headlines, the Steelers are implied for 21.5 points per game.
That's seventh fewest.
It's like within a point of the Raiders, within a point of the Titans.
And we're not like super stoked to be drafting, you know, beyond Brock Bowers.
We're not super stoked to be drafting any of those pass catchers.
You know, Metcath has always just been a really good wide receiver too and not, you know,
we squint.
We see the upside with him over a small sample.
and, you know, last year was kind of all of it coming together, right?
The past heavy offense in Seattle was great.
He came down with that knee injury midseason.
But before that, feel like Metcalf was on a career best pace, like borderline wide receiver one.
Weeks 1 through 7, he was the wide receiver 15 by points per game at 15.4.
He's the wide receiver 6 by targets per game.
His efficiency was within its usual range at 2.2 yards per route run.
And then everything kind of fell off a cliff.
think the knee injury was a little worse than maybe he let on.
At the end of the day, he's going to walk into what, man?
What do you think?
25 at worst percent target chair is just like, this is going to be a slow, run-heavy
offense that's not going to put up a lot of points.
So I still think he's a little capped.
But in terms of just projections and just kind of how we project volume or volume is,
it really is the lifeblood of Chris's projections, you know,
it makes sense that Metcalf is popping as a value.
Yeah, I mean, I think when we look at Metcalf,
the George Pickens numbers are going to kind of be the low end projection,
where Pickens had a 23.9% target share, I think that's going to go way, way up.
I think that the first read rate will be comparable.
Pickens had a very solid first read rate.
It was a 32% first read rate guy last year.
And Air Yard share, that's sort of the out for Metcalf,
where like even if it's an Arthur Smith led offense, which that's another conversation, Graham.
I think that's sort of an X factor is Aaron Rogers is going to audible at the line of scrimmage.
It's going to be slow pace, but it's going to be Aaron Rogers checking out of some of these, you know,
boring sort of Arthur Smith run heavy approaches.
Like, and he'll also force feed his guys.
So I think there is an outside chance.
D.K. Meckoff has the most targets that we've ever seen by an Arthur Smith led wide receiver one.
and that's not like a revolutionary bet.
You're talking about 125 targets-ish
is about the line that he needs to cross.
So I think DK's in great, great, great shape right now.
I have a bet with Scott Barrett
that he averages 15 points per game this year.
Scott was negative towards him.
We had Chris Wecked on School of Scott.
So we're head to head on that one.
You're with me on that.
I appreciate the support.
And I'll let Scott know about that one.
But like DK's in a fantastic spot.
And I agree with you as well that chasing,
the number two target here is not something I really want to do.
It's just like, who cares?
Really.
Like, it's probably Pat Fremuth.
There's been some buzz that Gabe Davis might sign here.
It makes sense.
They definitely need a bigger body on the outside.
Roman Wilson's a question mark.
We kind of know what Calvin Austin is.
It's just like it's going to be spread out between these guys after Metcalf.
Now, there's some Pittsburgh beat reporters speculating that this could be a Keenan Allen.
They could try to add a veteran wide receiver off the street.
Alan, does he interest you at all?
Or is this sort of just another guy
to be a purgatory value?
I think he is.
I think he'd be a value trap.
You know, I saw the signs of the fall off with Keenan
when he was getting all those targets from the Chargers.
And then we saw it even more last year.
Yeah, I think he'd be a trap.
Yeah, and Mooth last year ended the season well.
A lot of his scoring was very backloaded.
The Jonu Smith threat for him,
I guess if he comes through the summer unscathed
and they don't get Johnnoo Smith,
there was even a rumor that they're calling on another rumor today that they're calling on Kyle Pitts,
which would just be unbelievable content for us to have an Arthur Smith Pitts reunion on an Aaron
Rodgers lead team. It's like, please do that. Please do that Pittsburgh. So we have something to talk about.
But yeah, I think you leave it completely alone. Focus in on D.K. Metcalf and leave everything else alone in
in Pittsburgh. Let's pop over to some offenses that we have a clear idea who the top two targets are.
the L.A. Rams, Pucatakua, Devante Adams, these guys should both thrive together.
This could be one of the more consolidated target trees among two wide receivers in football.
Anything to add on L.A.
No, both are awesome.
I've been drafting more Devante Adams than I thought I would, though.
That third round price is nice, man.
I love it.
Wide receiver 19 on underdog.
Yeah.
I like him a lot more than I like Terry McLaren.
I like him a lot more than I like Tyree Kill.
And he goes behind those guys every single draft.
so with you completely there.
And I don't think it's really worth necessarily talking about a number three target in L.A.
Just curious for your kind of late, late round targets on underdog or in other bestball formats.
Any interest in Terrence Ferguson as a second half of the year, third tight end for your builds?
I'm just concerned that McVeigh doesn't love playing rookies unless they're Puka Nakua awesome, you know?
Like they brought back Tyler Higby.
we like 2-2 at well a little bit late round in bestball he's actually come up in adp he was free when when bestball mania opened
but two-two is a decent bet in the late rounds for a couple spike weeks and i'm just ignoring the
tight ends because like you said i there's a world where higby gets beat out by ferguson by the end of the
year but this role has just never really been that relevant for fantasy you know in mcvay's offense
it's just a lot of kind of underneath check down type you know third and fourth progression type read
at this offense is going to be funneled through Puka and Adams.
Yeah, completely agree.
Let's talk about Cincinnati.
Another offense where it's completely clear,
Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, the top two targets.
Pretty much they're in a boat race with Cincinnati to see which two wide receivers
have a higher combined target share.
Last year when T. Higgins and Chase were on the field together, they both thrived.
It was unbelievable fantasy scoring, a lot of continuity in that offense.
My question for you,
be actually an interesting one. I mean, all my questions are interesting, but this is a very
interesting one. Last year, the third leading target earner in Cincinnati was, without looking at it,
Graham, who was it? Was it Yoshivas? No, it was, it was just Seki, who actually had 82 targets,
because he had a couple of those, it was like, the games without Higgins, yeah. Yeah, he was like the guy
you put in when Higgins was out. So he had 82 targets, which is interesting. That's, I feel like that's
very much on the high side. If I ask 10 smart people, they would have never guessed like, like the,
it's sort of like the Mandela effect.
People would say he had 65 targets.
No one would say he had 82 targets.
But I'm wondering, is there unknown receiving upside for a guy that we're both really high on in Chase Brown?
Chase Brown last year had a 10.4% target share, which like we talked about, we want running backs with a 10% or more target share.
But when it comes to Chase Brown, it seems like there's a little bit more room to run for him on this team where he only had 63 total target.
this one's interesting.
And also if we go by like the the routes run per team dropback,
he was only a 46.6% player there.
So when you compare that to like a Bijon Robinson was like a 58%,
like could Chase Brown have some unknown receiving upside and be their number three target,
like get up to the 80 target range?
Yes, absolutely.
And I think we can kind of expect that.
So you mentioned the full season, yeah, he only ran a wrap.
out on around 47% of the dropbacks.
But if you just look at the games after Zach Moss was put on IR with that neck injury,
he was above 50% of the routes in every single game averaged around 60%.
Dude, that is elite.
That's like, I mean, Bijan McCaffrey, and then that's kind of it.
Like those are the guys that get above 60% consistently on a weekly basis.
So yeah, that's a great call by you.
I think there's definitely some like kind of.
of maybe under-projected upside that's not being totally captured in the space right now for
Brown. One final note on the Bengals before we get out of here. It's just a Joe Burrow note.
Dude, by catchable, so it's not just like they pass a lot. It's not just the targets.
By catchable target right here at Fantasy Points data, we chart catchable targets.
And every single year, Jamar Chase has been above 82%. T. Higgins has been above 80% in three
of the last four years. Both of them were in the top 10 among just qualified wide receivers last
year. So it's like a perfect storm of everything. You've got these like incredibly talented receivers.
You've got the super pass heavy offense. And then you you have based in my opinion, I mean,
Joe Burroughs is the best quarterback since Tom Brady. You've got this just like perfect storm.
And where Higgins is going, like we're drafting to Marchease at the correct spot, obviously.
You've got to pay up to get him. But I think there's a little underrated upside with Higgins too because
he's always a guy who's missed a couple games,
but what if he finally puts it together,
gives us all 16.
It's been pretty close in terms of the targets
between Chase and Higgins,
and you can draft Higgins in the late second round right now.
So I think Chase is obviously appropriately priced.
Burrow is expensive,
but to me, Brown, great call by you,
but I also see a little underrated upside with Higgins here.
Yeah, Higgins was 18.6 points per game last year,
like just ridiculous.
And just to your argument, I like Higgins a lot.
I have Chase Brown at the 20th overall ranked player in my top 50 right now.
So I'm ahead of consensus on Chase Brown.
Jamar Chase is my number one.
But I put Joe Burrow ahead of Jalen Hertz as well, which probably a little bit of pushback from people.
But I'm seeing a potential Peyton Manning like 50 touchdown season.
I think that's in the range of outcomes for Burrow.
Like a 50 or 50 plus touchdown season is there for the taking.
We factor in that there was some change.
Like he was with Tyler Boyd for much of his career.
Then Tyler Boyd moves on last year.
And they break in guys like Yoshivas,
Jaseki was first year there.
Chase Brown was first year at running back.
So, excuse me,
first year as the starting running back.
So this is like,
and he also missed T. Higgins for a good portion of the year.
Higgins only played 12 games.
So Burrow could be, you know,
I know we want to chase all the rushing quarterbacks.
And I think that's the proper way to play the game.
But of the pure passers,
Joe Burrow is certainly it,
and I think he could end up being the league winner at quarterback with this sort of offense.
I absolutely love it.
We could spend all day talking about Cincinnati.
Let's talk about another easy one, though, at the top two targets.
AJ Brown, Devontas Smith, leading Philadelphia, anything we need to add there.
No, and we were talking pre-show.
Dallas Goddert was the other tight end.
He was the third target, and he was at 10.2 points per game.
So, like, among tight ends, I think that's kind of a decent ceiling to expect.
if you're going to be the third target on an offense as a tight end,
the top end of the range is the Leporta Goddard season.
It's only 11, you know, 10 or 11 points per game.
Yeah, and just to Dallas Goddard, the Dallas Goddard argument this year is Goddard is the cheapest he's been,
where we're seeing Goddard just way, way down in ADPs, tight end 16.
And I believe this is the first year that we've been able to get Goddard as a non-tight end one.
So Goddard could end up being a solid pick for you,
especially where you're drafting Jalen Hertz,
you could have a backdoor stack in best ball.
But like you said,
if Goddard comes in and delivers that sort of points per game average,
Philly could also just be naturally just a little bit more pass happy this year,
change in offensive coordinator,
and also just things went perfectly for them last year.
Maybe there's a little bit more close game scripts that they have to play through.
So a lot to unpack there, but I agree.
Goddard's interesting,
even though he's not going to be a top two target.
Let's keep this going. Las Vegas Raiders, Brock Bowers as the number one target, Jacoby Myers as the number two.
Is Jack Besh a threat to usurp Jacobi Myers?
Is that sort of wishful thinking from people chasing youth and rookies?
Brett loved him, man.
And anytime Brett loves a wide receiver to that degree where he's like, you know, well above consensus,
I listen because a lot of the time the guy's just right.
I think he's pretty interesting.
We have him ahead of ADP on Underdog.
To me, I came into this offseason like, oh my God, Brock Bowers profiles as a number one
first round pick.
Like, he should be going in the top 15 overall.
And I started going through, you know, the projections, obviously, with Chris, going through
my tiers and just kind of how I rank players.
And Bowers has come down in my ranks.
And it's not because of him as a player.
obviously he's incredible, just had the best rookie season of all time.
It's more so just the position as a whole and the way I'm seeing drafts right now.
Are we really clicking Jonathan Taylor over Brock Bowers in the first round,
especially given everything we just talked about?
Never ever for me.
In the second round, I mean, not the first round, obviously.
Never ever for me either.
I'm at that point.
You stack up the receivers that are going in that pocket.
Nico Collins, Brian Thomas, Ladd-McConkie, Amon Ross St. Brown.
I put Rishi Rice in that tier.
I could click Brock Bowers over Rishie Rice,
but I'm not taking him over those receivers.
So you actually start putting your board together, right?
And you're like, man, it's not just like,
we all know the tight end scoring has been down, right?
Like we all know the pocket, those three tight ends at the top.
They're in their own kind of tier.
The difference is you have to spend a second round pick on Brock Bowers,
but George Kittle is a fifth round pick.
And it's just been a hard click for me.
me, man. It really has been. Yeah, I mean, devil's advocate is Brock Bowers did what he did last year at such a young age.
I had 150 targets, Graham. The quarterback play is going to go way, way up in Vegas. The tempo, I think, will go up in Vegas.
And when we talk about Chip Kelly, we talk about Pete Carroll. These are win now type higher. So I'm going to be very, remain bullish on Bowers.
I think that you're on the right track there with your argument. I think your argument is,
is George Kittle should be drafted a lot higher,
not necessarily to avoid Bowers,
but Kittal should be closer in value.
Like, I'm drafting the hell out of Kittle.
I think he's awesome.
We'll talk about San Francisco in a moment.
And just a quick little,
I'll give a shout up to Scott on this one,
because Scott references this in the pro Jack Bess argument.
There's potential that the number three pass catcher in Vegas this year
could end up being a little more helpful,
certainly in best ball, a lot more helpful in best ball.
The leading route earner, like the routes run leader in Vegas was Trey Tucker,
who was one of the leaders in the NFL last year, had a 599 routes run, a pure cardio guy.
So, you know, we just put Jack Bess in that role.
And he, if Jack Bessz runs 550 routes, he's going to be a fun player to have.
It might not be as much like week to week like consistency.
But in best ball, he's really talented.
we loved them, unbelievable senior bowl, and of course, a second round draft pick as well.
Let's quickly do the Arizona Cardinals.
Any pushback, Trey McBride, number one target earner, Marvin Harrison, Jr., number two.
No, I have been thinking about this, though, like, if Trey McBride is right at 22 where he goes
in draft, does that make Marvin Harrison wrong at 28?
You know what I mean?
Because like it just with Kyler being pretty limited as a passer, this is still a
pretty run heavy offense. It feels like one of these two players is under is overpriced.
I think it's like I know that Marvin Harrison would be the kind of player that I'd love to bet on.
And in years past, I think I would have been more into him. There's a little also little kind
of rumblings among the beat reporters in Arizona that Kyler Murray wants to run more this year,
that Arizona is going to embrace some manufactured rushing yards for him, get him back to design
quarterback runs like we saw early on his career. And what comes to.
Marvin Harrison Jr. just a pure ADP argument. I have him behind Rashi Rice, and Rashi Rice
goes right behind him. So this is, and Jackson Smith and Jigba, I think it's just a safer
pick, a safer outcome that he's wide receiver 18 versus Marvin Harrison Jr. at wide receiver 14.
I actually have JSN higher in my top 50 rankings as well. So we could get burned on Marvin Harrison
Jr. But I don't think it's because of the obscene amount of targets he's going to get. I think he could
kill us on a touchdown season.
He could put up a Terry McLarenessk,
13 touchdown grabs just because he's
quote unquote really good at football.
And he profiles the kind of guy that should win in the red
zone. But I don't think like a pure target
argument, the bet for me would be
McBride. They gave him, they paid him
a fortune. This has been a guy that we've seen
a sample size of Kyler Murray, hyper
targeting. And McBride's just really,
really good. So I think I'm into
all of the big three tight ends right now.
I think they've all got, there's an argument
to draft all of these guys.
Let's take a quick break.
We come back.
We're talking about the Dallas Cowboys.
Welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily.
We slowly walk through a number of these teams.
We're going to pick up a pace just a little bit here so we can cover a lot of these
interesting situations.
George Pickens as the number two target.
Can C.D. Lamb get into the 180 target range like we saw in 2023 gram.
Oh, yeah.
Look at the personnel here, man.
Dallas is going to be super pass heavy.
Defense is not going to be very good.
It's Michael Parsons and a lot of question marks right now.
now. Dak fully healthy. They get Pickens. Pickens great against man coverage.
Dak is great against man coverage. I think it'll open up things for CD. I was kind of hoping
that we'd get a little CD bounce back, like in terms of just the price and that's not happened
at all. He's solidly going in the middle of the first round. But yeah, man, Lam is, he's a total
freak and this offense is not going to be running the ball very often in their games.
Yeah, we're due for a 200 target earner.
Like it hasn't happened in a long time.
Calvin Johnson was the last one.
It could be CD Lam.
He had 183 a few years ago.
George Pickens at wide receiver 30.
I think I'm in on that price tag.
Are you?
In best ball, yes.
But I see a world where in redraft leagues, he's a bit of a headache like he always has been,
like just a pretty volatile player week to week.
And while those spiked weeks can help you, let's not forget.
like he was just traded, you know, away. Dallas didn't give him a contract extension.
He's still kind of playing for his NFL career. Like, we love the talent with Pickens.
But man, he's, he's been capped as like a wide receiver three his entire career. And while this is
by far the best environment he's ever had, he still has to deal with a freaking horse that is
C.D. Lamb. Yeah, and he also has to deal with Dak Prescott's tendency to target the tight end.
Scott Barrett also is definitely higher on Jake Ferguson than I am.
Scott makes some great arguments for him.
Ferguson at tight-in-15, I think that's about what he is, Graham.
I mean, he's a guy that I also don't mind building correlation with DAC,
but I'm just not necessarily as into him as taking the potential outcome of Pickens Spike Weeks now.
Ferguson really benefited from the lack of wide receiver two in Dallas.
Now he's got to deal with also a big personality.
Pickens is not going to want to be out-targeted by Jake Ferguson.
Let's kind of be real about that one.
That could cause some interesting conversations in the locker.
room. So are you in on Jake Ferguson? Do you care about Jake Ferguson or is he purgatory player?
Nah, he's a purgatory player. And I think the one out that Fergus, that I liked about Ferguson last
year is like, okay, he could be the number two target. But also, there's nobody here for the end zone
targets. That didn't really happen so much last year because that got hurt. Now they've got pickings.
And he'll be their, you know, red zone, end zone target guy. I think he's, he's a severely capped
player in terms of his upside. Here's an interesting one, the Denver Broncos, last year, Cortland
Sutton easily the number one target there, had a career year, one of his best seasons as a
pro in nearly every category benefited from the Bo Nix bump. Now Evan Engram joins him. Is Evan
Ingram the clear number two target in Denver? It's not really a high bar to cross.
Like this was a team last year that sort of piecemeal together the secondary targets.
And people sort of trying to keep track at home, the number two target earner last year in Denver
was actually Javante Williams,
which is crazy to think about,
sort of a cooked Javante Williams leading the room.
Among the wide receivers,
Devon Velae had 54 targets,
Marvin Mims at 50.
Like this is a clear opportunity for Evan Engram
to not only step in and be the number two target,
but be a hundred target earner.
He will be the number two target,
but this is going to still be a rotation.
I struggle seeing Ingram being a full-on, like 80% route share, play all those snaps like, you know, George Kittle, Trey McBride, Brock Bowers.
And it's not because he's not a good receiver.
It's because he's not that great of a blocker.
I still think we'll see him get rotated out on, you know, some play action stuff.
Obviously, he's going to be moved into the slot as, you know, kind of their big interior receiver to kind of give Nix that checkdown guy over the middle.
But I don't know, man. Let's not forget this is a player who hasn't scored more than four touchdowns at any point of his career since his rookie season.
You know, basically his one great year in fantasy came attached to a, you know, Trevor Lawrence offense that, you know, lost Christian Kirk, didn't have Brian Thomas.
He got 143 targets that year, only scored four touchdowns.
I think Ingram's fine. He's priced fine.
I like him for specifically in best ball on Knicks teams.
And redraft, I think his upside is capped just because, I mean, he's a 31-year-old tight end changing teams who has never scored a ton of touchdowns.
And Theo, I mean, you play on FFPC leagues a lot more than I do.
You know at the end of the day, like, yeah, volume, it really matters.
But touchdowns are what take you over the top at tight end.
And Ingram has just never been a touchdown score.
And I think FFPC is the really good argument there because with Engram, you're going to have to use a sixth round pick to draft him.
And when you talk about tight end, yes, can he be?
be a guy who is the tight end nine at that price tag.
But tight end nine doesn't really move the needle for you.
If you want to hear a little bit more discussion about potentially Evan Engram's role in
Denver, whether he's a joke or whether he's just a slot receiver, we had Max
Tuscano on School of Scott.
I highly recommend that episode.
We broke down a number of these tight ends.
So I think we'll both say Evan Engram is the number two target earner, but not necessarily
the number two target earner that's going to help you win your league.
Let's keep this going with a couple of these other teams that are pretty clear in the pecking order.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, a little bit of a Mecca Agbuka threat looming.
But I think that the two older players are surefire unless they get hurt going to lead the team.
The Agbuka pick struck me as like this is a 2026 and pick, you know, beyond.
We just don't want we don't want to have a situation last year where Mike Evans, Chris Godwin,
unfortunately both get hurt.
We've got to roll out.
Jalen McNeillan got hurt the end of last year too.
He popped a hamstring.
I mean, they were just rolling out.
Nobody's out there.
Real quick.
I know we've got to move on, but like,
I got to go back to these first six games of last season
where Chris Godwin got 52 targets.
Mike Evans got 39.
The first reads were 34% to 25%.
Obviously new offense.
No Cohen, but you know,
similarities in terms of the coaching staff.
Yeah, I think the injury, obviously, you make
the argument for the price difference, right?
Like that's the argument right there is that Godwin's coming back from a similar injury
to Mark Andrews had last year.
We saw Andrews get started really slow, et cetera.
But like, man, I mean, I had drafted a ton of Godwin in round six last year,
and I think I might be running it back at this price.
Yeah, I think Godwin's really strong.
And not to keep promoting all my podcasts here,
but I had Jim Coventry on and we broke down all of the new offensive coordinator
I think that there's a big sort of fear that Chris Godwin is going to have to bump outside.
And on paper, the Mecca-EGBuka pick, when you draft a power slot at 19 overall,
it's sort of like, oh, we're going to see Chris Godwin go back to where he was in 2023,
and we're going to have to bump him outside to get Eg Buka on the field.
Jim actually thinks that Grizzard and the Bucks are going to use Egbuka outside a little bit more,
force him to sort of get out of his comfort zone and open him up to,
playing outside just a bit more.
And then they can always bump him back on the inside.
Yeah.
Just not for nothing.
When I was charting Judkins and Henderson,
I thought Egbuka looked great on the outside.
I thought in terms of his release package and everything,
he looked like a natural.
I know he was outside or inside, what, 75% of the time?
But yeah,
I think there's definitely some inside outside versatility with him.
More so than I thought there would be just based on purely looking at the data.
Yeah, definitely an interesting.
one. I agree with you. Godwin is could be being mispriced right now if the market fears about
losing slot snaps are there. Let's talk about one more offense. Then we're going to take a quick
break. Let's talk about fun. Let me find an easy one here. A couple of these are actually
harder, harder than it looks. Minnesota Vikings, Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison,
are these two the leading target earners this year? Or do you have sort of a fear that T.J. Hawkinson
could come in now that he's fully healthy.
I think he's 14 months removed from the surgery.
Hawkinson is a guy that in years past was one of the leading tight end target earners in football,
had a couple of top three finishes in terms of tight end targets.
Yeah, I mean, he definitely caps the upside of both Jefferson and Addison to a certain extent,
less so Jefferson because he's just such an alpha.
I'm just going to keep pounding the table for Jordan Addison.
I think he's a completely mispriced player.
Okay, so yeah.
I got to give you props on this one because, Graham, I tweeted this the other day.
I drafted Jordan Addison in the eighth round of an FFPC $350 big gorilla.
And like, I made this, I did the exact same tweet last summer where Addison rookie year, 13 points per game, scores like 10 touchdowns.
The market pushes them down because they say Sam Leporta slash J.J. McCarthy cannot support his second target.
Addison, it was a really easy player to click last summer.
Then this year we're doing it all over again.
He has 19 touchdown catches in 32 career games.
And the haters out there will say, guys, you can't predict touchdowns.
Leave that out of the equation.
The guy could have regression there.
He's 12th all time in NFL history in touchdown catches for a player in their first two seasons
of the league.
Graham, he was a first round draft pick.
He was a stud at Pitt and USC.
This is not like a profile that can't just say.
sustainably be really good for fantasy.
I have no idea what the market pushback is with Addison.
The only thing I can think of, dude, is it's like he has this looming DUI case,
but it's kind of like the Rishi Rice corollary where all of that's caught up in the courts.
The NFL won't suspend him until he gets charged with anything, if he gets charged.
And yeah, dude, touchdowns are absolutely predictable.
Jordan Addison has 12 end zone targets in back-to-back season.
Oh, by the way, he's only scored nine touchdowns on those 24 end-zone target.
So he's probably actually ran a little cold on the end zone targets.
And he's a great big play threat.
Like, why wouldn't you want this guy as your wide receiver four in all your teams?
I truly, I don't understand the Addison price.
It has to come down to the, you know, potential looming suspension and just kind of the mystery box of J.J. McCarthy.
But I think everybody at Fantasy Points knows that we're, we're big McCarthy fans over here.
And we think he has, you know, some kind of ceiling lifting upside of this offense that Sam
Donald and Kurt Cousins previously didn't have.
Yeah.
And escapeability in the pocket and the ability to extend plays for J.J. McCarthy is a big benefit to this get behind the defense explosive player like Addison.
Also, to an extent to Justin Jefferson. So I think like Hawkinson is a tight end that I would bet would be the number three target.
I think I'm in on him at ADP.
Fully healthy Hawkinson could be really, really fun.
And unlike previous seasons, you're able to get him.
You're not really having to push him up, especially like he's tight end five on underdard.
dog, but he's going at 85 overall, which is 15 spots behind Sam Leporta.
I would not be shocked at all if T.J. Hawkinson just outscores Leporta finishes as a
tight end four. Let's take a quick, quick break. Let's come back. We're going to talk about
the Seattle Seahawks. All right, welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily. Mid-show, we've decided
to make this a two-part episode. So make sure you tune in for the following episode. We're going to
cover a number of these passing games, but we're not going to cover every single one on this
episode. Let's talk about Seattle. This is a pretty clear top two targets where Jackson Smith
and Jigba took a huge step forward last year was a guy who had 100 receptions, which ties the
franchise record. Then they go and acquire Cooper Cup this off season. Cups older, but Cups in shape.
They have high hopes for Cup. They're going to utilize Cup. What's interesting to me is Graham,
like Jackson Smith and Jigba's slot rate's going to go down.
but it's not going to disappear.
And now he's going to play on the outside where he's going to get more opportunity
for some spike weeks.
We saw what he was capable of in that one week where D.K was out and he had like a near 40
pointer last year where the average depth of target went way, way up.
I'm very bullish on JSN at wide receiver 18 and ADP.
Are you with me or do you sort of have apprehension about Darnold and the offense?
Yeah, I'm with you.
So I think JSN is just really good at football.
like it can be that simple uh he's a guy who just pushed dk mackath all the way down to 48th by targets
per route run and you know that that's including all the games that they play together you know obviously
had the big blowup came like you said without metcalf but jsn man i mean he he kind of pushed metcalf
as like the one a one b last year and now metcalf is gone tyler locket's gone i think i think the big
you know just in terms of the market kind of pushback it is darnold i think we just kind of have to
the Jets version of Sam Darnold from our heads.
Like we truly do.
Obviously last season was a perfect spot.
Great coached.
All of that.
Great receivers.
But Theo,
don't forget, like at the end of 2022,
Sam Darnel kind of revived his career with the Panthers.
And those six starts,
he had a 5% touchdown rate,
8.2 yards per pass attempt.
Like his last two stops that weren't the Jets
where he got like legitimate run,
he's been okay.
Sam Darnel is clearly a limited quarterback.
We all agree he takes too many sacks.
We all agree that he's,
He's not great on third downs, but he has clearly been able to get the ball to starting,
you know, starting caliber wide receivers like he did last season.
I think JSN is slightly underpriced.
I was kind of hoping he'd be going near the back end of the third round, but yeah, he's a
pretty good bet in the third round right now.
Yeah, really, really strong bet to make Cooper Cup, I think is interesting.
Again, Cup like there's wide receivers I like a little bit more around him, but if he's
healthy, I think he's going to put up some strong weeks.
I think bottom line is we had the same conclusion when we talked about the running backs,
how we're both extremely bullish on Kenneth Walker.
And then obviously we both need to be in on Zach Charbonnet as a very high end handcuff
because every time he's on the field, when Walker's out, he scores fantasy points and has a strong
role.
I think a call comes back to, I think the two of us are very excited about the Clint Kubiak offense.
Yeah.
And just the excitement there.
And the additional blockers that will be on the.
field, the utilization of a fullback.
I think that this is just a really good spot for JSN, but I do think the Cooper Cup,
if healthy, is going to be the clear number two target there.
It's exactly right.
I mean, think of what JSN is really good at, right?
It's the crossers.
It's the horizontally breaking routes where he's getting across the field.
That's all Clint Kubiak calls, man.
That's the offense.
It's a ton of crossers, off play action.
It's a perfect fit for his skill set.
And the targets could be great because Cooper.
Super Cup might be, he might be washed, man. Like, it's sad. The, you know, the time comes for all of us,
but sometimes, you know, players fall off a cliff very quickly and the efficiency, the data,
and the film showed a player in decline last year coming off the injuries. I think that's also another
good argument where JSN last year, despite having 100 catches, what's interesting, the guy had
this incredible slot rate. He was, I believe, the leader in slot rate. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
No, he was right up there.
He's 83.9% slot rate.
But in terms of the first read rate, he was solid.
He was 25% first read rate, actually lower than DK.
Metcalf on the first read rate last year.
But what was interesting to me was the target share.
And JSN to me, like, was a 22.4% target share player.
I think the market sort of predicting that he's going to be right around like 25%.
But if there is a greater despair,
in Cooper Cup and Cooper Cup really takes another step back this year,
then we could see JSN into like the really elite 27, 28% target chair with a little bit
more manufactured looks.
So I think I'm really in on JSN, especially at the price you have to pay for them.
We talked about this earlier about like best ball prices.
And I'm able to get JSN behind Tyree Kill right now, behind Terry McLaren, behind Marvin Harrison,
Jr. And last night, I actually took him ahead of Garrett Wilson. And Garrett Wilson goes significantly
higher than him. Well, actually not really that much higher, but in terms of wide receivers,
he's a higher ahead of him on Underdog and certainly on FFPC. So in on JSM. Yeah, it's a, especially in
PPR, I think you can make a small argument that maybe he's capped in terms of the touchdown upside
on this run heavy offense attached to Darnold on Underdog. But I don't know. That really doesn't
matter too much to me when the volume could be as good as I think it could be.
Jacksonville Jaguars, your team, easy here.
Brian Thomas Jr., number one target, Travis Hunter, the number two target.
One of the most exciting wide receiver duos in the league, 21 and 22 years old.
This is awesome.
It's awesome, man.
It comes down to T-law.
Lawrence has got to, he's got to prove it this year.
When Travis Hunter steps foot on the field in week one, he will be one of the,
the three most athletic players in the league already.
And I believe there's a real chance he pushes BTJ for the team lead and targets.
Obviously, he's got to clean up things in terms of his route running, but guess what?
So did BTJ.
BTJ was not, he was not that fluid of a route runner.
Everything kind of came together, you know, weeks three, four for him.
And he just took off and turned into a freaking Julio Jones clone.
But Travis Hunter is, he's a little different.
He's a little different in terms of his movement ability, his contested catchability.
Yeah, I think it's going to be closer than people think.
I love Travis Hunter.
I've actually had this conversation with a number of people.
And it's an uncomfortable one to have the percentage chance that Travis Hunter can leapfrog Brian Thomas Jr.
In Dynasty.
I talked to Ben Gretch about this earlier this week over on Dynasty Life.
I highly recommend you check out my Dynasty podcast.
But it's, it's.
it's certainly not a 0% chance.
It might be, and some people would say, you know, the draft capital,
but I've seen BTJ on the field.
I'm going to put it like 25%.
Graham, it could be closer to 40% chance.
Like Travis Hunter is really, really, really good.
And the X factor of he had to play both ways in college,
had to attend every single meeting.
And Brett Whitefield's pointed this out,
that's going to be an impossible thing for a younger player to do in the NFL,
meaning he's going to be in the offensive meetings,
probably miss some defensive meetings
because of just the schedule,
the sheer number of hours the teams are putting in here.
So like you have all these X factors for Travis Hunter.
I think it's,
I think he's just tremendous.
Okay.
It's like if Hunter comes out,
he gets nine targets week one,
turns him into seven for a hundred and a touchdown.
They're not going to be putting them in those cornerback meetings, man.
He's so much more valuable to this team.
as a receiver. And it's, you know, it's just, it's the way the NFL is gone now, right? It's like,
it's not just he's more valuable to the team as a receiver. He's about to make way more money
for himself as a wide receiver. So he has a, you know, vested selfish, selfish interest. And Brett
makes a great point, you know, Hunter had 90 or more yards in nearly every single game last year,
playing both ways and playing with the quarterback, who in my opinion was, was pretty limited. You know,
I think we can all kind of agree. Shadour, you know, took too many sacks and had way too many drive,
you know, drive-killing plays and Hunter bailed him out out of a lot of situations on contested
catches. Bottom line is, I mean, Hunter is just, he's a freak, man. And BTJ is a freak too.
We get two alphas together. It'll be interesting to see what happens, but that's the percentage I would
put it out. I think it's 60-40. We just did a huge dynasty rankings update over at fantasy points.
Scott Barrett, Ryan Heath, and myself, we put a lot into this. And in single QB rankings right now,
we have Travis Hunter higher than almost every single site.
We have him at 17 overall.
We have BTJ at 10 overall.
So two Jacksonville Jaguars inside of the top 17 in single QB.
Love, love, love, Travis Hunter.
He is back to back with Ladd McConkey and one spot ahead of Saquan Barkley to put it in perspective
of just how enthusiastic we are about him over at fantasy points.
Let's touch on one more team here.
You know, we actually, let's squeeze in two more teams.
let's do three more.
Hey, very, very, very quickly here.
These ones, I think, are pretty easy.
Washington commanders, Terry McLaurin as the leading target earner.
Debo Samuel stepping in and getting his usual 90 targets.
I think that's sort of there.
Like 85, 90 targets should be the secondary target earner.
Zach Ertz was the second target earner last year.
Seem like that's a sealing outcome for Ertz.
if Debo just absorbs the wide receiver two role,
he's the clear number two target there in Washington, isn't he?
I'm pretty surprised about the cost on Debo.
I thought he'd come up in ADP.
I mean, he's still going on the late 60s.
Love him at Wide Receiver 39.
Yeah, I was like, oh, man, I'm going to have to fade Debo this year.
Like, you know, Debo's been one of my favorite players for a long time.
Anybody's been listening to me for a long time knows I love Debo.
He, while he just definitely, it's a downgrade for a spot, right?
Like Kyle Shanhan just had the code of how to use.
Debo. But like if you were to drop him in an offense that's like second best, this is probably it.
Just in terms of the design targets and everything that Cliff Kingsbury likes to do in terms of the
short area targets around the line of scrimmage. And just bringing it back to Terry McLorn, man.
So yeah, I mean, he's always, he was always the bridesmaid, never the bride, right, among the
wide receiver three group. Like the volume was always pretty good, but the quarterback play was
terrible. He finally got it last year. But dude, like, he's still capped. Like his target chair is still
cap. McLaren has never been higher than 22% of the targets for four straight seasons. He was at 21.7%
last year. I just really doubt that one of these wide receivers is going to be pushing for eight to
nine targets per game, especially in an offense that should be pretty balanced. Daniels obviously
handles a lot of stuff into the design run game. I'm just not betting on Turner McLaurin in the third
round. Like, I'd much rather, I'd much rather take on the risk with Debo in his age 30 season, I guess,
in the 6th or 7th and just say, hey, like, you know, McLaurin is probably a little capped.
You know, we kind of know what Debo is in terms of a player, but like you can now draft him as a
wide receiver four or five. Yeah, Terry McLoran had 13 touchdown catches last year and the average
15.8 points per game in expected fantasy points per game over at fantasy points data, he was only at 13.6.
And sort of to your argument, he's getting, I think a lot of it's the underdog effect in ADP
where people want Jaden Daniels.
They know that what worked last year was the Daniels McLaurin combination.
But I think if you're drafting Jaden Daniels, just wait and take Debo Samuel,
wide receiver 39, much, much, much easier click.
You can actually build a Jaden Daniels, Debo Samuel, and then even take like a Brian Robinson
or a Zach Ertz, something along those lines.
and have a little bit like more of a backdoor stack than this having to use this massive pick on McLaren.
And of course, the opportunity cost of drafting McLaurin is you're passing up on actual studs.
Like I think McLaren is a fade right now for sure.
Atlanta Falcons, top two target earners this year will be Drake London easily 150 plus targets.
Darnell Mooney safely the number two target this year?
I don't think so.
I think it could be Beijon.
Oh, my gosh.
And then you're talking about breaking fantasy.
Yeah, I do.
I do.
I think it could be Beijon.
It's just, I mean, man, he's such a, he's just an insanely talented player on an offense that I think is going to be pretty balanced.
And yeah, Mooney was, you know, he was good last season.
But like, Drake London is the RPO over the middle, like first retarget guy.
Mooney, obviously, you know, good field stretcher.
But it was close last year, bro.
Like, it was pretty close.
You know, Mooney had 106.
Bejohn had 72.
And I think it was just kind of the offense holding Bejohn back.
You know, Kurt Cousins was very limited as a passer.
Late in the season, you know, Michael Pinnock was just learning the offense, basically,
and kind of got dropped into it.
Bejon's targets fell off in those couple of games.
You give him a full year with Pinnix.
We know what he's capable of in the past.
passing game. I think the targets will be a lot closer this coming year. I think there's a chance
that Bijon pushes for that like 90, 100 target season. It's really close between him and
Moody. I absolutely love that one. And we talked about Bijon just as a player. Like,
everybody knows that he took a big step forward as a receiver last year. 61 receptions.
Was B-Defied expectations as a rookie in terms of his receptions as well. I believe he was at 58 receptions,
but 70 targets last year, that's huge.
Then we talk about the routes run per team dropback.
58.5% is insane for a running back.
We love, love seeing that.
Another factor, Ray Ray McLeod had 84 targets last year was sort of like a fun name for,
you know, just deep, deep, deep leaguers, had a couple of weeks there.
But Ray Ray MacLeod now has some pressure put on him by guys like Hodge.
There's the beat report is sort of insinuating that the Casey Washington's like some of these under the radar guys could put a challenge into McLeod, certainly like just a little bit more athletic profile guys. Then you've got Kyle Pitts who could be traded 70 targets earned last year for Pitts. The other tight ends are, I mean, you're talking about this could be a team that is like Indianapolis where they completely phase out the tight end position with Pennix. Like I think Bijon could lead all running backs and receptions.
and when you add in Bejohn's floor as a runner, this is a, I mean, I hate to say it.
This could be 25 points per game.
No, you're right.
That's the ceiling with him, man.
Like, I recall Bejohn not looking like himself, like kind of middle of last season.
I went back and looked at this.
He popped up with like a small hamstring injury, middle of the season.
It was kind of weird.
Like his route share really dipped.
So last 10 games of last season, you just, you know, kind of after the buy,
kind of, okay, maybe he was a little dinged up.
Those last 10 games, he was a 62% route share.
That led all running backs by a significant margin.
Chase Brown was a 60% by the way in that pocket.
That was third.
Chuba Hubbard slightly out of them.
We've just seen it with Bejean, right?
Like we've seen the elite route involvement.
Pennix, like I said, was just kind of learning the offense.
You know, they had one game and good game script against the Giants.
They had two overtime games where they kind of had to throw more.
I think as this offense gets more layered and Pennix gets more experienced, Bijon is just going to become a bigger and bigger factor underneath.
And then you mentioned the fact that maybe they do trade Kyle Pitts, and that's just going to open up all these underneath looks for Bijon.
Yeah, I mean, I think I'm with you. Bejohn is absolutely the one I want.
I'm still pretty confident in Mooney being a guy that at least in best ball is going to be fine.
102 targets last year, 19.6 target share a percent target share.
Like I think Mooney's fine, but again, it's really the Ray Ray McLeod argument where there's
not going to be a number three wide receiver getting 84 targets.
And there's not going to be a tight end earning 70 targets.
So I think we could both sort of be right here where Bejohn gets into the 85, 90 target
range, but Mooney stays in that 90 target range.
I think at the end of the day, draft all three in best ball.
And in managed leagues, I want all of the Bijon and all of the Drake London.
This is a Sean McVeigh led offense.
This is a consolidated offense.
Not Sean McVeigh let offense.
Zach Robinson led offense, but in the McVeigh light where they're going to hyper target
their best players.
And when the situation presents itself, you could see Drake London getting some 15 plus
target weeks.
We saw it at the end of the last season with Pennix.
He had a 39% target share in games with Michael Pennix.
and the first read rate
was absolutely through the roof.
So Drake London, a lot of my bold prediction,
this in a bunch of podcasts has been,
London's going to be a top three score
at the wide receiver position.
And in 2026, when we're drafting,
Drake London will be a first round pick
alongside Bejohn.
So feel very confident in London.
Last team to talk about is a sort of a
underwhelming offense,
but I think a pretty clear target tree,
Cleveland Browns,
Jerry Judy, David Njoku,
are these the two leading target earners on this team?
And I think both are sort of solid clicks right now, Graham,
based on people sort of pushing down this offense in general.
I know Chris Wecht is high on both of these players as well.
Yeah, and Joku is somebody that I'm really drafting more of than I kind of thought I would be.
He's going on the 1 30s on underdog.
He basically means he's going to be free in redraft leagues this coming year.
And you mentioned it.
I think he's clearly the number two.
target here. And I think if I squint, I could make him the number one target because in games where he
was healthy last year with like basically not DeShon Watson, Theo. He was a pretty damn good tight end,
like top five, top six with all their other quarterbacks. Obviously, he had a couple, you know,
huge games with Jamis in there that kind of inflates it. But we've kind of seen the upward,
you know, trend within Joku. It's, it was a been a weird career. You know, obviously he was very young as
a rookie. But while, you know, last three seasons he's produced, he's just continued to get better and
better. You know, he's only 29 years old. Obviously, this quarterback room is completely unsettled,
and I think that's a part of the reason all of these guys are being pushed down the board. But,
you know, this is a team that's not projected to win very many games, not projected to score
very many points. They're actually the worst offense in terms of implied points per game based on
the look headlines at 18.5. And you just don't have to.
take on the risk of a bad offense by clicking Jerry Judy in round six all the time when,
you know, David Njoku is, you know, playing at a onesie position and he's significantly
cheaper. Again, it's not, it's not to say I'm fading Judy. I think Judy is a fantastic player,
and it was great to see him kind of get vindicated as a really good receiver once he finally got
some good quarterback play. But Injoku is just way too cheap. And in the context of like playing
our game, you know, it's a bad offense and not necessarily a bet that I like making, but
you know if njoku's going on the 130s like the you know back end tight end one i'm willing to make
that bad it among all tight ends over the last two seasons Travis kelsey leads all tight ends
in targets with 254 in 31 games played tray mcbride is one behind him at 253 targets in 33 games
played but david and joku is the number three or uh target earning tight end
over the last two years, 220 targets, and he played six fewer games than McBride, played four
fewer games than Travis Kelsey. David and Joku, every year is a good value this year more so than
others. Tight end 12, an underdog, and this is just a reflective towards the market chasing
upside, chasing stacks, where David and Joku going behind Colston Loveland, going behind
Tyler Warren, going behind Evan Engram, for that matter.
are not bets that I'd be willing to make. I think this is easy. I'll take David and Joku over
Jonu Smith at Titan 7 over Mark Andrews at Titan 8 as well. I love Injoku. And then Judy's interesting
because Judy had 140 targets last year. They lose Elijah Moore, who had a career high in catches
last year. They don't have a number three wide receiver worth noting. And Cedric Tillman's a guy
that was very good but in a short sample size.
And of course on Fantasy Points data,
Tillman checks off a number of boxes.
He's interesting.
But for Judy,
I think this is a kind of a disconnect between like underdog drafts
where drafters are really, really pushing up wide receiver.
And in other formats where you're going to get Judy sort of in like the seventh
or eighth round.
Like I think betting on some of these gross offense wide receiver ones is sort of the,
I don't mind doing it.
And I think Judy's in a really, really good shape.
And a lot of people, when I put anything positive on Judy,
we'll push back and say a lot of this was James Winston,
but he had two massive target games to end the year.
One was with DTR and one was with Bailey Zappi.
So I don't know.
I think Judy's kind of turned the corner in terms of his usage.
He's going to get sort of wide receiver one usage.
But I'm with you.
David Ojoku is the better value of the two.
I think I'm just a little bit higher on Judy than you are.
Yeah, that's fair to say.
And it's not that, like I said, it's not that I want to, like, fade Judy.
It's just in that pocket, even if it's in that round 78 pocket,
I think there's just a few other, a few other bets I'm willing to make.
It depends on the team build.
Obviously, I think if Judy is kind of like your wide receiver four as attached to like a receiver heavy build,
you know, to kind of bolster that group, I like that.
But if I'm having to rely on him for like weekly production is like my two or three,
attached to this quarterback group, attached to this team total,
it does get a little dicey.
So this was a lot of fun.
We still have 13 teams we've got to cover.
So we're going to do this on a second episode.
And the next teams we're going to talk about are actually a little bit more difficult.
We're going to talk about some teams that don't have clarity as who the top target earner will be.
We have a number of other teams where we don't have clarity on who the number two target earner will be.
And I think that's going to be a really, really helpful one for fantasy managers.
Graham, let everybody know where they can find you and what you have going on right now.
Yeah, I'm at Graham Barfield on Twitter. Catch me on these YouTube streets every Thursday with Ryan. We're going to be drafting underdog teams. You can listen to us, draft teams and tilt along with us. I've got a bunch of underdog content coming out on the site, fantasy points.com. We got Dallies and Players of Target. I got my draft plan. And I'm going to do a team stacking article, Theo. That's going to be pretty cool. We basically take our projections, compare them to ADP, and see where we're highest on for team.
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