Fantasy Football Daily - Tyler Scott, Devon Achane, Darnell Washington | On the Clock! NFL Draft Podcast

Episode Date: February 22, 2023

In today's episode of On the Clock!, Brett Whitefield (@BGWhitefield) chops it up with Joe Marino (@TheJoeMarino), co-founder of @TheDraftNetwork, breaking down Cincinnati WR Tyler Scott, Texas A&M RB Devon Achane, and Georgia TE Darnell Washington. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time for the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoint.com. Top level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. Oh, welcome in to another episode of On the Clock. I am your host, Brett Whitefield. I have a very, very special guest today. This is my Bud J. Joe Marino. He is a co-founder of the Draft Network. He is a podcast host many times over, including

the illustrious lockdown bills, which is the only team podcast I listen to that is not the New England Patriots or Detroit Lions. It's a great podcast. Everyone wants to check it out. You can find Joe on Twitter at the Joe Marino. And he's also an author as of recently. He wrote a book called Go Bills, which you can find at Buffalo Billsbook.com. I know he has another one coming out that is available for pre-order. Joe, how are you, my man? Brett, what's going on, my dude? Good to be on with you.

It's been a while since we collaborated on some football conversation for everyone else to hear, right? We talk a lot between each other, but this one's for everyone else to consume. Yeah, for those that don't know, I mean, Joe is my go-to for draft talk. If I want an outside opinion in my head, it's Joe's. You know, I put Kyle in there, too. Like, I really do respect Kyle's takes as well. but I don't talk to Kyle on the phone like I talk to you on the phone so so you're my guy man and as you know I mean you've been doing this for how long now close to a decade right draft stuff?

Yeah yes right at this is my 10th year yes wow yeah yeah so once you become a season vet the the less outside noise in your head the better so you kind of stop taking in everyone else's opinions I'm kind of the same way but yours is the one that I allow in my headspace so good to know good to know I'm going to really use that to my advantage I like knowing this. Yeah. Well, real quick, before we get started, we are going to preview three prospects for you today,

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We chart it all ourselves. That's coming out probably like early summer. So be on the lookout for that. All right, Joe. So today we are going to talk about wide receiver Tyler Scott from Cincinnati. Natty. We're going to talk about running back Devin A-Chain from Texas A&M. We're going to talk about tight end Darnell Washington from Georgia. Basically, the format I gave you when I asked you to come on the show was like, I need a player you're higher on than most. I need a player you're lower on the most.

And then I need one we disagree on. We had hard time finding that player. So we settled on you just promoing Darnell Washington because that's a guy you love. And I'm kind of on board, although he's my tight end for. So without further ado, Joe Marino, you are on the clock. Let's get it with Tyler Scott, wide receiver from Cincinnati. Talk to me. Yeah, listen, I'm a big fan of Tyler Scott, wide receiver Cincinnati. I know that everyone was all excited about watching the Bearcats last year with Desmond

Ritter and a team that ultimately went to the college football playoffs. But if he kept up with them this year, you know all about Tyler Scott, who led the team in receptions, yards, and touchdown catches, obviously not the same type of season for Cincinnati, but they were a good football team. And I think Tyler Scott was one of the best stories on that roster, a guy that comes to Cincinnati. And he had a bunch of Power 5 offers. It wasn't like he was a low-level recruit. I mean, he had Michigan State, Nebraska, Syracuse, Iowa State, Indiana, among other Power 5 offers. He wanted to stay in Ohio. He goes to Cincinnati and becomes a really good football player for them. I think the name of the game with Tyler Scott is

speed. He is explosive, a guy with legit. it pull away speed to win vertically down the field. I mean, whether it's just running away from people, breaking pursuit angles, not allowing people to get an angle on him. He has that true legitimate speed. And look, speed isn't everything at wide receiver. Brett, you know that. If I gave you a list of the fastest 20 wide receivers in the history of the NFL scouting

combine, you're not necessarily going to see a list of the best receivers in NFL history. In fact, you're going to see a lot of guys that really didn't do much in the NFL. What I'd like about Tyler Scott as a guy that, you know, I think it's fair to call him a speedster or a burner is that he's got some nuance to the way he plays the game. He's a really good route runner. It's how he sets up those vertical routes to win down the field. It's when he has that one cut and he's going to hit a post. He's really seamless. And I love how he sets that up. I love how he feels that corner that whoever's covering him and how they're in their pedal and just kind of is able to read their leverage and understands how to set up that break to explode and. get even and he's gone, right? Guys can't run with him. So I love the nuance that goes with his speed. And from there, it's also about the ball tracking ability, a guy that can really locate, track, adjust, and get to the football. So it's about the speed, but it's also how he maximizes that speed with route running, with timing, with tempo, right? You can run a four, too. That's great. But if you can't

adjust your tempos and the way that you run routes to set up those opportunities to hit that second in for even Tyler Scott, a third gear, it's not going to matter. So he's got speed to the ball, and he really understands how to use his athleticism. And when you can win vertically like a Tyler Scott, it opens up so much in terms of breaking off routes and working back down the stem and working horizontal routes. And so I think this is the full route trees at Tyler Scott's disposal. And I think a lot of that is set up because of the respect that corners and, you know, defenses have to have for his ability to just simply get behind them.

And so he really maximizes that. Yards after catch, absolutely. Not that he's going to survive a lot of contact. He's not a tackle breaker or anything like that. But just getting the football in his hands and his ability to accelerate quickly and be decisive and see the field well leads to a lot of moments where he catches the football and guys just don't get a hand on him. He's able to just run away from people. And so it's how he just maximizes that athletic profile.

It's the season that he had this past year at Cincinnati. Maddie. And as you consider this wide receiver class, maybe there's a few guys you'd be willing to entertain in the first round. But I think this year and something that's proven to be a good strategy for teams over the last several years is, hey, wait on that wide receiver. Maybe you'll get a George Pickens. Maybe you'll get a Debo Samuel, a D.K. Metcalfe, an A.J. Brown. A Terry McCorren. Right. These are all day two picks, man. Deonti Johnson. Sure. Yeah. Keep on going. There's so many of them. You know what I mean? And so I think that Tyler Scott is that perfect. Hey, you know what? We like George. Madison. We like Quentin Johnson in the first round, but you know what you really like is getting another player in the first round at a different position and falling back on a guy like Tyler Scott in the second round who I think has a lot of Tyler Lockett to his game that I think will be an

outstanding number two wide receiver for a team on a cost control rookie deal that's going to really provide a lot of value in production. Everything you just said is, I agree with it actually. I mean, it's crazy how aligned we are with Tyler Scott. When I jumped into his tape for the first time, Joe, I don't know why, but I had a low expectation of what I was going to see. And I think someone had to do with when I watched Pierce last year, Alec Pierce, that is. I just don't remember Tyler Scott making all these plays. Obviously, he did take a step forward this year and was a little bit more productive despite missing two games.

But man, I'm a sucker for those guys that can win vertically. I talked about it on the pod yesterday. We were doing Jalen Hyatt. And anytime you have a guy that can fundamentally change the way a defense plays you. Math changers. Math changers. And you get them away from what they want to do or what they do best. Oh, my gosh.

Whether you catch five balls for 120 yards or two for 20, you're producing for your team because you're changing the way they have to play. Like you said, it opens door for so many things. The thing that really struck me, though, with Scott, man, is he's not just speed, like you said. The route nuance, the ability to sink his hips and explode. out of his breaks was incredible. He does this one thing, Joe. I'm sure you saw this 100 times.

I would say his best route that he runs is a post route. Yes. And he, it's because he can threaten the outside shoulder of the corner so well that they have to respect it. And so when he, when he faints just slightly to the outside, like he's attacking that shoulder, they panic. And they get all twisted around.

And he, you know, he hits a really explosive break. And literally so many plays where he hits that post route. he's wide open down the middle of the field. And it was not because of a busted coverage. It was a legitimate route running and separation that did it. And then he has the speed to make you pay for those mistakes, you know. Yeah, dude, I love that point because there's ways to cap and play over top of a guy that can just run straight and get fast and get open down the field. But that post route opens up a lot against cover three, quarters coverage, right? Like you can you can find ways to maximize his ability to produce based on that.

that route tree. And man, I love what you brought up there about how he changes the way that defenses are going to play. Right. When you can dictate terms as an offense because of a skill set, that's huge because now they're stressed in ways that they're not comfortable. And that makes everybody else better. The spacing of your offense is better when you have a player like this. And I like to come back to the phrase like constipating your offense. If you don't have enough unique skill sets. If you don't have enough speed to vertically lift, you know, you're really going to have to make it, it's tough to play offense in a box, right? Like, you've got, you got a full football field that you want to be able to have access to and stress. And if you don't have skill sets like

this on your offense, you're really condensing that box and making it a lot easier to play defense against you. Yeah, it's, truly, that's the name of the game. It's almost like in MMA, it's the same way. Like, I always make these weird comparisons, but like, MMA is all about surprising your opponent in dictating terms. So, yes, having a guy that can dictate terms totally changes the offense. You're seeing teams do this, right? They've all identified this is like people want to recreate Tyree Kill. And I'm not saying this guy's Tyree Kill at all.

But like that's the vibe you want to, you want to bring to your team. It creates like Ammon Ross St. Brown gets better because James and Williams is going to be on the field next year. I can't wait to see that dude with Ben Johnson. Yes. Yeah. Lions are, lions is a treat for me every week, man. And I make that a priority to go back and watch that with Ben. And I can't wait just what James and Williams does over there. For sure.

All right. So last thing on Tyler Scott, anything about his game that you're concerned about things you like to see him clean up or anything that sticks out to you as a, that could lead to a tricky transition to the NFL. Yeah, I think there's some dynamics here that concern me. First of all, I mean, he's got a lien build. He's listed at 511-185, right, which maybe. maybe he's 5-11, maybe he's around 180 pounds.

So he's got that lean frame. And again, play strength, I don't think is ever going to be a strength of his, like, dealing with contact as a route runner. He's not going to survive a lot of contact with the ball in his hands. Like those are definitely dynamics that he'll be, we'll have to be mindful of with him. And I think the way that the game has played today certainly helps a player like Tyler Scott, but it's worth noting that.

And then I think there's some inconsistency with his hands, right? I think there's some drop issues that you have to acknowledge. And it's important to note that there's a difference between ball skills and hands, right? There's being able to get to the football and put yourself in good positions to catch, but then there's actually catching. And for Tyler Scott, as I looked at a lot of his drops, it felt like just grip strength, squeezing the football, securing it to his frame. I didn't notice like issues with technique in terms of how he greets the football with his hands.

It was like just finishing that catch, squeeze that ball to your chest after you secure it. So just kind of sharpening that up. So if I had concerns, it's the lean. lean frame. It's the play strength. And then we got to clean up some drops here. Yeah, the lean frame is interesting too because five years ago, this would be a massive issue. But recently, we've seen this interjection of like really skinny dudes. Obviously, Devante Smith and Philadelphia, one of them. But I mean, even Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave last year, like these guys are, these guys are slim. I actually see some similarity between him and Olavis game. Do you see that as well or no?

Yeah, I love that. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. I mean, that ability to win vertical is very, very similar and I think maybe even frame-wise there's some parallels there as well. Yeah. Right on. All right. We're going to move on. But before we do, I have to get to our paid sponsor, which is Underdog. If you love the NFL draft, I'm pretty sure you also enjoy fantasy drafts.

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Gun to your head, you're the Los Angeles Chargers, and you've, you've, decided we have to get a field stretcher on our team this year. We've got to maximize Justin Herbert's rocket ship arm. So we're going to get that guy in the draft. Would you rather go Jalen Hyatt at number 21 overall or take Tyler Scott in the 50s? Oh, if I, if I'm guaranteed I can get Tyler Scott in the 50s, yeah, I'm going to do that. I'm going to get another player at a different position, maybe even a tight end. Could you imagine one of those dynamic tight ends this year and a Tyler Scott for this offense. Like that gets me excited. What's, what could be true here is they could do Jalen Hyatt and then come back and get a tight end. True. You know, for as much as we love these tight ends and we'll get,

we'll get to Darnow Washington here just a little bit. It's not normal for there to be three first tight end, first round tight ends, right? That's, that's not a very common thing. And so more than likely, they're going to, they're going to fall a little bit. You're going to get a really, really good player potentially into the 50s. So I think those are some really fun combination considerations that you can have and for a team like the Chargers, that could be well in play. Yes. I agree. All right, cool.

Now we're going to get to a player that you are a little bit lower on than most. His name is Devin, a chain, A chain of Texas A&M. Maybe we should just call him A-Train. I think if we just go with every possible pronunciation of the last name, we will hit it correctly at some point. And that'll save us from the inevitable feedback that we'll get. Yes, yes. All right. So Texas A&M running back, Joe, this is an undersized dude. I'm sure that's a starting point for your concern, but hit hit me with it.

Devin A. Chain running back Texas A&M. Good player. Brett, I like him. I appreciate the skill set that he offers. If you want a speed dynamic for your backfield, if you're looking to become more explosive offensively, then Devon A chain is going to be a really nice option for you. But I want to be realistic about the valuation here of the skill set. talking about a back that's listed at 5-9-185. Yikes, right? That should give you some concerns.

And it's not that I don't think there's ways for him to be productive and add value and do a lot of the same stuff we talked about with Tyler Scott that made him really appealing. We're also talking about a running back. And so I look at Devon A-chain more as a complimentary player, right, as a guy that you pair with somebody else in your backfield to offer a different type of skill set. because I don't think this is a player that's going to consistently be a between the tackles runner. I don't think that he's a guy that's going to help you in pass protection at all, right? And like, I know that it's never sexy to talk about pass pro for running backs,

but if they want to play in the NFL, it's a necessity. And if you're a, if you're a specialized player and on passing downs, you're on the field only to catch footballs, right? like specialization, uh, increases predictability and it minimizes your own strengths, right? And I think that even for as much as Devon A chain profiles as a guy that should be able to help you in the passing game. I think you can fairly come away with some disappointment with how productive he wasn't as a past catcher for Texas A&M when I kind of felt like they needed that from him in, in more ways than they got. So with A chain, it's just about, hey, look, I've got a five, nine, 180 pound back. let's be realistic about the type of role that he should command at the next level and let's appropriately value him. And so for those reasons, it kind of pushes me into this thought process that, hey, this is more of like a fourth round player when I start talking about him as opposed to one of the second or third running back off the board like I see in some rankings and then some mock drafts.

Yeah, he's tough to me because like you said, you started this by saying good player. I totally agree with that. The issue for me is like, where does he actually slot in this draft? Like, I mean, it's really, really tough because I don't think you can draft a player on day one or two that's going to play, what, 20% of your snaps at most? Correct. I will say this, though. In the offseason, I said that I thought he should transition to receiver or push his team to put him there, to slot receiver. I said it again in November, and I'm saying it again now.

I don't know why. He clearly has the movement skills to be a legitimate route runner. I know people always do this with smaller running. Oh, make him a slot receiver. They did this with Tony Pollard too, right? It's just not feasible for most running backs. They don't have the refined route running ability. I think he does.

I would love to see a team take a chance on and trying to transition him to receiver, playing him in the slot, getting a little bit of explosiveness out of that slot player. you can still use them in the run game you can still use them on gadget plays endarounds jet sweeps whatever you want i i would love to see him in like a souped up isaiah mackenzie role so to speak um that said where i mean a comp i had for him was kenneth gainwell how do you feel about that yeah i i like that i think um i'm actually looking at my scouting report the the comp that i have written down is le michael james okay back from the 2012 draft that I'm not sure how much he's even smaller than him so yeah well I wonder if when we get an

official measurement on a chain if he doesn't come in kind of where well Michael James came from and like I think that speaks to the valuation that I have on him right well Michael James you could really get excited about all the stuff that you just talked about with the return stuff the past catching the jet sweeps the motion the horizontal stress that he can place on a team um but at the end of the day is like where's the volume where like what can you realistically get in terms volume here that should drive the valuation of the player. Yeah. So, yeah, that's spot on. I mean, I threw out Gainwell because Gainwell was, what, a fourth round pick. And everyone loved him.

Watch a play. I mean, he was so fun. I mean, physical, angry, like did a lot of different things. I understand that. Yeah. So I guess point being is that's kind of where I get comfortable with a chain is probably in the fourth round. Early day three, the round one. The round one. one discussion is kind of crazy to me. And then even early day two is just my, like I just don't, I don't see it at all. So I think the big difference with Gainwell for me is just like there's a density to his frame. We're talking like five, eight, 200 pounds with Gainwell.

Yeah. And A chain is going to be, if he's 190, I'd be surprised. True. If he's 190 at the combine, he won't run. Right. Right. He's trying to get a measurement. But in reality, I think we're talking about a back in the 180 pound range and just go through the

list. Somebody produced the list of 180 pound running backs in the NFL that are like meaningful presence of their offense. Wood Sproles. But he was really dense. Darren Sproles, I bet you he was 5'6, I think. Yeah, but he was like, I think it was over 200 pounds. Was he really?

Holy cow. 5-6-190. That's a ball of muscle. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Being 5-11 190 versus 5-6-190 is just really different. It is. And you could see it in Sproul's lower half, too. Like he had developed leg muscles, you know?

Dude. Yes. All right. Where do you see, like, what's a good landing spot for him? Have you thought about this at all? Team wise or round wise? Team wise, yeah, sorry. I mean, give me a situation where you got, I don't know, Pittsburgh.

I don't know. And that's, I have concerns about that offense maximizing him. but I think about with a back like that. Like you want to pair him with one of those downhill players, Detroit, to go. I don't know if they're going to bring back Jamal Williams. The Panthers roll with Deont de Foreman, like having this guy as your complimentary piece.

So guys, teams with those more physical downhill backs, get yourself an A chain to go with them. And I think you can really love your one-two punch. Yep. I like that. All right, cool. Let's move on to Darnel Washington. Tight end from Georgia.

He currently sits on my board as my tight end four, but I love him. It's rare I love four tight ends in one draft class. I have just outside of a first round grade on him, so early second round grade. Joe, tell me what you're seeing. I see a really unique football player in Darnel, Washington, not just because he wears number zero and his six foot seven, 270 pounds. but that is a fun dynamic of watching him on tape. I just, I love the ways that I think he can help in offense.

Being six foot seven, 270 pounds, you immediately feel good about what he can do as an inline blocker. And as we see, and I know that's boring, right? Nobody wants to hear about inline blocking and tight ends and why that makes me love a player. But yeah, so, but hear me out on this. all these teams in the NFL that are running outside zone, you have to be able to win the edge, right? You have to as in the run game.

And having a guy like Darnell Washington that can do that with consistency is going to be big for your ability to run that outside zone. But then it's about everything off of that, right? It's being able to maximize that blocking ability, which also shows up in pass protection. But he's a good receiver. Like he is.

he's, I mean, no, he's not going to be, uh, Dalton Kincaid or Luke Musgrave as a, as a, as a route runner. Like, that's not who he's going to be. But his catch radius is unmatched in this class. He plays every bit of six seven, two 70. I think he's really smart in being able to find space and sit in zones, which is a really important skill, right? Like that's, that's why the slot positions hard to figure out for a lot of teams. Um, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the New England Patriots for a billion years, have Wes Welker and Julian Edmund play in the slot. And you get frustrated because you're like, why can't every single team find this guy that can run an option route and just get open over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. But they can't do it because there's a ability to process coverage and understand leverage and understand rotations and understand where you need to be on schedule to make those easy completions.

it's not just to put anybody in there, right? And so that's, and that's why even I thought to myself, well, Welker and Edelman, those guys are not dynamic athletes. You know, what happens if they got a dynamic athlete to go into that spot? It's the processing ability. And I know that it's weird that I'm invoking those names to talk about Darnell Washington, but I think he does that, he does have that savvy ability to understand zone coverage and where to put himself to be an available target to keep the chains moving.

And then, of course, he's got that catch radius. He's got that ability to really stress the seam and be a guy that you feel like you can trust him to get that leverage in the intermediate parts of the field and win at the catch point. So it's that blocking skill and what I think he's going to mean to your run scheme and that outside zone ability. But then it's it is the catch radius and the size. And I mean, athleticism for six seven, two 70s pretty doggone impressive too. So there's just a lot to like about this player. And, you know, I've seen enough teams want to run outside zone that they can't win the. edge, well, this is a guy that changes that for you.

Absolutely. One thing I didn't hear you mentioned was red zone ability. I mean, this dude is a massive target in the red zone. You know, between the 20s, specific, or sorry, outside of the 20s specifically, he's going to give you that run blocking dynamic to cram the ball in, or he's going to give you that big target in the end zone for your quarterback. Washington is interesting for me. You broke down his ability to beat Zon. zone. When I evaluate tight ends, that's my starting point. You can't be considered a good tight end.

You're not going to score well in my system if you can't beat zone. What then takes guys over the top for me is if they can also beat man. And while he's not going to separate a way, like you said, he's not the same route runners, Kincaid or Musgrave. He's not going to be a separator. His size and his frame, Joe, allows him to beat man, especially if you're going to have a linebacker matched up on him. Yeah. Like he's going to outwork and out athleticism that guy most, most of the time. Especially as linebackers get smaller. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So Washington's, he's a huge win. There's so many teams I'd like to see him on.

But, um. Miami. Oh, Miami would be great. I mean, this is everything they need a tight end. This, this was the problem with their run game is that Giske can't block anybody, right? That's been, if you watch him at Penn State, you knew that. He hadn't gotten better. You know, they have, who's the, we played slot for his first three years in the league.

Yeah, let's be real. He's really a slot receiver. who they have Dalton, not Schultz, Durenneith. Yeah. Not a guy that wins. Not a guy. Hunter long, not not doing it, right?

Like, this is the answer to their tight end problems if they were able to land them. It's true. I think they'd be a great fit. I also think like, we already mentioned Detroit with a cane or a chain, but I mean, they traded Hawkinson. They're kind of running a committee and the committee's working for them. Yeah. But the physical brand of football they want to play.

and they love throwing to those tight ends in the red zone, but they don't really throw to them outside of the red zone. Yeah. It's almost like a perfect fit, you know, that. And they do a lot. They do some outside zone, but they also, you know, run a lot of power and counter type stuff. And Washington has that athleticism to get to the second level

and track down a safety or dig a linebacker out. Like he can fully do that stuff. I just feel like it's almost a perfect scheme fit for Washington and Detroit. How about Cincinnati? You know, they've got some tough decisions. to make there. And Hayden Hearst was a great season, right? But maybe the consequence of that great season is it's great for Hayden Hurst, but it's not great for the Cincinnati Bengals who are looking at a ton of contracts that they got to give out, right? And so you think about getting

cheaper at the tight end position, darn out Washington is going to certainly help their run game. But, you know, talk about pairing him with a Joe Burrow and maximizing catch radius. I mean, that's pretty dreamy. Absolutely. Everyone's already mocking, you know, Maher to them or or I've seen Kincaid getting mocked there, but you could maybe lay back a little bit and get Washington second round, that'd be great. Speaking of that, where do you have Washington coming off the board? Where do you see him

realistically being drafted? I think he's probably I think he's probably early second round. I don't know that he gets laid into the second round. I could see, I don't know, man. I think teams will ultimately

value the athleticism, that you get from a Kincaid mayor musgrave. And so maybe he is tight end four, which I can understand. But I just, there's too many, there's too many spots in that second round where he just makes too much sense where I don't think that he lasted.

Look at the chargers. We talked about them with the pass catchers, but even the same type of deal here where this would be a great skill set for them to add. It would be. All right. Let's wrap it, Joe. That was awesome.

I'm so glad you. you came on the podcast, man. Yeah, thanks for the invite, of course. You know, I'm always willing to talk ball with you, my guy. I think this, you were my second guest on this pod on the clock. I think you were my second guest on my other pod, TikTok as well. Wow. So I just, I guess when I start a pod, I'm like, I need Joe Marino in my life to give me that security.

Specifically for the second episode. I'm security like Darnell Washington. You know what I mean? Yeah. All right. Well, guys, thank you so much for listening. This is a daily draft podcast. So I'll be here five days a week, every week, all the way up until the draft.

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