Fantasy Football Daily - Week 2 Fantasy Focus | Two-Point Stance Podcast

Episode Date: September 15, 2023

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It's time to the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoint.com. Top-level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room, with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. All across the fantasy universe, welcome in to the two-point stance powered by FantasyPoint.com. What's up, everybody? I'm Brian Drake, your host for this fine podcast. Check me out at Drake Fantasy on Twitter. Again, never call it X. It's bad branding. Just stay with Twitter.

Hanging and banging with a guy who either needs a nap or a nice tall glass of Evan Williams. It's the managing editor of FantasyPoint.com. Mr. Joe Dolan at FG underscore Dolan. What's up, brother? How are you? Just had the former. We'll have the latter tonight, Drake. That's the, this is, I just want to, we want to inform people.

We normally are going to probably be recording this show, our little mini week, not a mini weekend preview, our little weekend preview on Fridays, but we're recording it on Thursday today. So we will not have the Thursday night football review for you today. But the game has already happened by the time you're listening to this. So if there is like a big piece of news that comes out, our apologies, it will be covered on the website, just not on this particular podcast.

Yeah, just go check out, you know, with a fantasy points, Twitter feed. We've got eight bazillion articles over there. Go to the YouTube channel. Oh, I know. I publish all. Oh, man, it's the early season, Drake is wild. It really is. There's a lot going on.

There's a lot going on in the NFL and we'll try to condense it down in this podcast. What we like to do, folks, give you a piece from each game, something from a fantasy perspective that we are curious about and we want to see. We divvy up all the games. Joe, we can start with you if you'd like and you can go Packers visiting the 1-0 Falcons, a pair of undefeated teams getting it on down in the ATL. Well, first and foremost, let's look at injuries because it looks like Aaron Jones and Christian Watson are not going to play in this game, both of whom have mispractice on both

Wednesday and Thursday with hamstring injuries. A.J. Dillon was unbelievably inefficient last week, as A.J. Dylan has want to be, but he obviously has a lot of value, I would argue, border, let's say R.B2 value, because I don't think the Falcons are going to score a whole lot of points. That is what I'm most interested to see in this game. I don't know if interested is the right word, Drake, as opposed to scared to see in this game. Arthur Smith keeps getting justified in his boneheadedness because they come out and they play terrible teams and beat them. Carolina Panthers, I completely underestimated how crappy that receiving core would be without somebody with speed like DJ Chark.

They, Carolinas couldn't move football. Green Bay has a little bit more juice, but no Watson and Jones, they might have trouble moving the football. Is Arthur Smith going to be justified yet again, not giving Drake London and Kyle Pitt's targets because he once again is playing against a team that's not going to be able to score points in this game. And it feels like Arthur Smith is almost making this his ammo to shut up the, fantasy guys. Like, oh, ha ha, they, they want me to throw the ball to my good players. We'll watch this. It literally, like, Drake, that's literally what it feels like he's doing. I have Tyler El Jir and Bejan Robinson. You know, I drafted El Jir later as kind of a handcuffed to Bejohn.

Now I'm kind of thinking, I could start them both. Why not? And look, just start them as a flex play. All Jir looked good, okay? I'm not going to like knock Arthur Smith for, this isn't like Green Bay giving A.J. Dillon. and 13 carries for 18 yards when Aaron Jones is popping off five yards of pop, okay? All year look good. So I'm not going to knock Arthur Smith for giving the ball to somebody who looked good. I will knock him for giving Mack Hollins more targets than Drake London. That I will.

Like, because, you know, I remember Greg CoSell saying something last year. He's like when, when, as a matter of fact, we were talking about this same exact team. And he's like, it's not hard to get a player you want to get targets. You design plays for them. Arthur Smith does not do that. And he doesn't. And at this point, it almost feels spiteful at this point. Drake London ran routes on 91% of the Falcons plays.

He had 6% of their targets. He had eight out of five. He finished his PPR receiver 87 on the week. I mean, that is atrocious. Well, I mean, he finished his PPR receiver infinity. He didn't catch a pass. I mean like it's unbelievable yeah I mean just dropping goose eggs when I did a show last year on serious I would do these thing called hate the Drake and it was the players who basically

shit the bed for you every single week Drake London and Kyle Pitts had their mail forwarded to the hate the Drake list they were always on it I mean the airballs these guys throw up is unbelievable so let's move on from that game let's go to another a couple of teams that can disappoint as of late the Raiders are visiting Orchard Park to take on the bills. So in the last three games, the bills have played, either in the regular season or the playoffs, they have lost to these Zach Wilson-led Jets.

They no-showed a playoff home game against the Bengals where their offense did absolutely nothing. And they needed a fourth quarter comeback against Skyler Thompson and the Dolphins to win a playoff game last year. This is ridiculous, Joe. Like this team, there's some issues with this Bill's team. My thing I'm taking back from this that I want to see from the bills here, can Josh Allen bounce back? I mean, he's turning the ball over left and right.

Let's get Stefan digs the ball. The Raiders don't have any talent in secondary. I want to bounce back game. I want Gabe Davis to score. Let's get Dalton Kincaid moving down the field. That's what I want to see from this team because it looks broken right now with Ken Dorsey calling these plays. Now, look, I don't, I'm not going to shelve all the blame on Josh Allen, but he certainly deserves a, really big part of this. And I'm not saying he doesn't care. I'm saying he cares too much.

He needs somebody to kick him in the ass. And he needs somebody to say, hey, dude, you can't do it all yourself. And I think Sean McVeigh has let him get away with some of this stuff. It's problematic to me. I do think, though, that Josh Allen's going to bounce back in this spot. Because based on our offensive line, defensive line, stats, Drake at Fantasy Points Data, and of course it's one week of data, which is a small sample, as everybody knows. It's going to feature a lot of time to throw for Josh Allen. The bills have our third best pass grade of the week, which kind of adjusts for the pass rush vis-vis the offensive line. The Raiders sacked Russell Wilson just twice last week and generated a negative 5.7 quarterback pressure rate over expectation.

Let me tell you how hard it is to generate negative quarterback pressure rate over expectation, Drake, against Russell Wilson. It should be impossible. Last year, we had Russell Wilson as the quarterback who was at fault for the second most sacks in the NFL, meaning personally at fault behind only Justin Fields. So Russell Wilson was sacked twice against the Raiders last week, one of which was his fault. The Raiders still couldn't get after him. I think Josh Allen's going to have time to throw the ball in this game against the Raiders. And if he struggles against this defense, then we've got some big problems for Buffalo. Yeah, there's going to be some talk around the water cooler if Buffalo drops this game to a 1-0 Raiders team.

All right, so the Ravens fresh off a victory in week one are going to visit a Bengals team that just really looked hapless, Joe. It's going to be their home opener. You can attribute it to a lot of things. And maybe it's they didn't get a lot of time with Joe Burrow in the preseason or the Browns are just a lot better than we thought. But Ravens coming off a game where they won, they didn't look good. And now they're going to have a couple new running backs here. But Lamar looks shaky here. Look, and it's a new offense, okay?

So I'm going to give Lamar a pretty big leash here. I think a theme from week one. Look at Lamar's stat line. And look at Joe, Joe Burrow had a Ryan Leaf stat line in week one. So there's going to be guys who I'm going to give that benefit of the doubt to. Lamar and Joe Burrow are certainly among them. I want to see what the Ravens offense looks like. Not just the backfield.

Of course, that backfield split is going to be really interesting for fantasy with J.K. Dobbins out for the season. I want to see what the Ravens offense looks like with Mark Andrews in there. Because it seems like they were, they didn't really have a plan or they weren't exactly planning to not have Mark Andrews. You're installing a new offense all offseason, right? And the assumption is Mark Andrews is going to be the number one receiver as part of that new offense. and they had very little time to kind of adjust without him. And then they didn't need to show a whole lot. Houston wasn't able to move the football with any sort of consistency.

The Ravens sack, C.J. Stroud, I believe, five times. I want to see what that Ravens' offense looks like with Mark Andrews, who it appears is trending towards playing at this stage. How about my boy, Zay Flowers? Who, 17 PPR points. I got him starting in two leagues as my wide receiver three. People thought I was crazy. So he had a 60% first read target share.

But almost half of those were designed plays. And I wonder, this was from Chris Weck to Fantasy Points data. I wonder how much of those were just simple, get the ball in the hands of a playmaker because we don't have Mark Andrews and we don't have our full scale offense. So that's another reason. I'm excited to see this offense with Andrews. What does Zay Flowers role look like within that offense?

Yeah. If you've got Zayflowers, get him in there because someone's got to catch passes. We know it's not going to be Gus Edwards. He has 18 career receptions in five years. So Justice Hill likely taking that role. Justice Hill had just nine yards on eight carries, Drake, but two of his carries were stopped by the end zone.

So, you know, it's always hard to use yards per carry in that context when, I mean, you can't go any further than one yard because you're at the goal line. So I'm going to be really interesting. to see, I do think it's going to be a split. Yeah, I mean, when you see Justice Hill, if you break down it by percentage, it's 67% of their snaps from inside the five-yard line. So that's a big role. You would think the Gus Bus would be an easy play from inside the five.

And maybe he will be. Maybe it was, I remember one of the plays where Dobbins got hurt. I think the next play is when Justice Hill just came right in the game and he mopped it up. And you see that sometimes. So it could just be a that. That was the package that was on the field and Justice Hill fit into that. Let's keep moving along here. The O and one Seahawks, who look dreadful on the opening day, visit the Lions.

So the Lions, we all know, we also, they go into KC, knock off the Chiefs. So really here, what am I looking for? Can you repeat the success you had? You could easily come home. Your fans are going to be going bananas. Hope has never sprung more eternal in Detroit than it has this week. But I want to see the Jamir Gibbs usage. he's got to touch the football more, Joe.

Nobody's been a bigger Gibbs guy than you. But I want to see him take the next step in this offense. I want to see him in the past game. I want to see him being the PPR monster that we know he can be. And David Montgomery's good. David Montgomery should get touches, but I want to see Gibbs get a little more. Let's get a little more on the plate of the rookie. Let's see here.

This is a quote from Dan. Dan Campbell, Will Birchfield of 97 won the ticket puts this out. And this is what he tweeted. Will Lyons running Waximir Gibbs get more touches week two? Quote, well, probably not, said Dan Campbell. Now that everybody's asking, no, I had planned on doing it. But the more people ask, the more I think we ought to just pull back. Dan Campbell, we love you.

Quote, he finishes. We love Gibbs. Yes, he's going to get more touches. I believe him. I completely believe him. And I was encouraged by what I saw. off from Gibbs in week one. That was not a game where I'm like, oh, no. You know, that was a game where I'm like, okay, the Lions won. I can't really criticize them. You know, the game flow was different.

Kansas City didn't have Kelsey. So Kansas City wasn't half as explosives as we're used to seeing. Maybe the chiefs have Kelsey, Gibbs gets 12 to 14 touches in that game. It just was the way the game went. Jamir Gibbs is going to get more touches. I believe Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell is a guy who when he says something, I listen to it and I take it to heart because I actually believe him when he says that. That doesn't mean he's going to come out and get 20 touches and David Montgomery is going to get five. Maybe Gibbs gets 10 touches this week as opposed to the seven he had or whatever he had last week. I think he had seven carries two rushes. Yeah, maybe he gets three targets, maybe gets four targets.

But I think his role is going to increase. I think they absolutely have designs on doing that. if you can find somebody in your league who maybe is a little down, you can go, hey, listen, you know, Gibbs, he ain't touching the ball lot. It's Montgomery's backfield. How about you throw him my way? I'll toss you a guy for him.

Oh, yeah, Montgomery had 21 carries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't, I don't know if anybody's that dumb, but hey, somebody probably is out there. I'm going to be working on something here with the, talking about fantasy trades. And trust me, there's a lot of dopes out there. You can get to bite on something like that.

People always say, I wish you were in my league talking about trades like that. Trust me, buddy. Guys in your league are that dumb. All right, let's move it on here. Joe Colts Texans. I mean, there's a maybe only one interesting thing going on in this game. It's your call here. So I'll leave it up to you.

What are you looking for it with these two juggernauts? Well, I want to, I want to see Zach Moss in this backfield because if Zach Moss can't put it together. We have plenty of. evidence that Dion Jackson is probably not an NFL player. Last week, he had one of the five best workloads in terms of expected fantasy points. In a league in which I lose two points for a fumble, he scored 1.8 fantasy points. I mean, like, Jonathan Taylor's agent is going to take that box score and he is going to print it out and fax it to Jim Mersey every hour on the hour. If Zach Moss is going to come in here, by the way, Evan Hall is on.

on IR. Zach Moss is going to come in here, and I think he's going to start if he plays. He's got the broken arm, but it looks like it's trending in that direction. It is staggering how many waiver wires he's still on. As a matter of fact, let me look at at Yahoo. He is owning 29% of Yahoo leagues. That's insane. There are so many, there are so many more speculative backs who are rostered in more leagues. Yeah, he's now like the number, you know how they have that trending thing? He's number one in that on Yahoo. He should be rostered. in every league. Absolutely every league.

As a matter of fact, ooh, he's available in one of my leagues. Get him. I'm going to get a waiver claim on the guy in my biggest league. I want to make sure I got him. Yeah, so, well, I actually, my backfield's pretty loaded in this league, Drake. I don't know if I have anybody I can drop for him

because I would still rather have Kyron Williams than Zach Moss. But yeah, Drake, I mean, this is pretty serious here. Zach Moss should be rostered in every league, especially if you need a running back. available in over 70% of of leagues. Get out of here. Let me get your quick thoughts on Anthony Richardson. Now, Richardson,

everybody was expecting him to run. He did throw a touchdown pass. It really, I mean, this looks like, you know, they kind of a Tim Tebow on steroids. You can look back to what Justin Field was doing a year ago, but I mean,

maybe a better passer at this point than just a sure looks like it to me. Yeah. So if you have Anthony Richardson to me, and you're platooning him with Danny Dimes or Brock Purdy or Cous, whoever you got there. I think the upside on Richardson week to week is almost you just got to play him and see what you get. That's kind of the path you took your team down selecting him in your draft. It's not even close. Absolutely.

Anthony Richardson, he had six design rush attempts, which was second among all quarterbacks, and he nearly had a second rush touchdown. So, yeah, Anthony Richardson is being used the way. you need Anthony Richardson to be used in order for him to be a hammer quarterback one for fantasy. That is exactly the usage you wanted to see from him in week one. All right, let's move it on over to the Chiefs and the Jaguars, the 0-1 Chiefs going on the road. And what I want to see in this game is wide receiver play and wide receiver usage. So wide receiver play, we've got to get something out of Skymore, okay?

I mean, what a joke that was. Cadarius Tony just played an abysmal game, cost his team the game. Let's be honest, having an interception with his hands and another drop later in the fourth quarter. I wouldn't be shocked if Moore or Tony has a big game this week against the Jaguars. Wouldn't shock me at all. If I'm playing DFS, I'm going to put a lineup with Cadarius Tony in it.

I'm going to have all these kind of redeemed team guys from a week ago. And I want to see Christian Kirk get on the field and play a little more. I mean, Christian Kirk really is playing as the third wide receiver. Zay Jones has leapfrogged Christian Kirk. His usage is terrible. He's just basically playing out of the slot. And it is Ridley, who looks like a superstar, Zay Jones. And then, yeah, here's Christian Kirk.

I don't have any confidence starting Kirk in the league. Yeah, I'm pretty surprised. Like, I think we, a lot of us ignored in the fantasy football community. I think a lot of us ignored the fact that Christian Kirk was coming off the field in three wide receiver sets in in week one because we're like, why would they do that? You know, Christian Kirk had 90 catches and a thousand yards receiving last year. Well, that's exactly what happened. Here's the other deal with Christian Kirk.

The part-time usage obviously is the big concern, but the Chiefs do play more man coverage, which Kirk is better at. But here's the bad news. The man matchup is Trent McDuffie, the second year corner, who allowed just one reception to Amon Ross St. Brown in his primary coverage last. week. As a rookie in 2022, McDuffie didn't allow a single receiver to catch more than three passes or go for over 34 yards in his coverage. Hunter Renfro was both of those. So even if you think Christian Kirk is going to bounce back, he needs to play more on the outside this week in

order for that to be a positive matchup for him. Yeah, I don't know if that's going to happen when Zay Jones a week ago participated in 94% of the Jags routes. That was only second to Calvin Ridley's 97. Christian Kirk all the way down. 66% of the routes, 6% of the team targets. Let's see if that improves this week for last year's breakout wide receiver. It's moving along, Joe, your game here, Bears, Buccaneers, another one that maybe just, you know, inmates should be forced to watch. So look, this is.

The series. So I watch JTO Sullivan do a full breakdown. of Justin Fields' game. Have you seen J.T.O. Sullivan's YouTube channel? No, I'll have to check this out. It's the QB school. JT, obviously, a guy who played in the league for nine years knows what he's doing. Just eviscerated the Bears on every possible level, every possible level.

Personnel-wise, effort-wise, play-calling, and especially Justin Fields-wise. I mean, Justin Fields is not an NFL passer right now. And he needs to start getting better now. You know, I saw somebody, it was a Bears blogger or podcast host, compare Justin Field stats to Lamar Jackson's from week one. He's like, which is the guy everybody's freaking out about? You want to talk about a false dichotomy. Lamar Jackson's an MVP. Lamar Jackson's allowed to have a few rough games here and there.

Justin Fields is a guy who is playing for his job. So of course Justin Fields having a rough game is going to be criticized more than Lamar Jackson having a rough game. It's going to act. Well, Lamar Jackson was hammering the Houston Texans. They didn't need them to have a great game. No.

The Packers were beaten up on the Bears. I need to see Justin. Like, I mean, I hate to say it because like it's like gapers delay. But Justin Fields is one of the players I'm going to be watching the most in the next few weeks. DJ Moore. You moved all these picks to get him two targets. Come on. I mean, it was ridiculous.

Ridiculous. I don't know what else to say. By the way, it wasn't DJ Moore's fault that he got only two targets. Yeah. And it wasn't Luke Getsy's fault that he got only two targets. Let's move it along here. The Chargers who played without question the most entertaining game of the week last week, Miami. They're going to take on the Tennessee Titans. Titans are now down a couple of linemen.

DeAndre Hopkins is yet to practice this week. I've seen Traylon Burks is available on a number of waiver wires. He was being dropped this week. So maybe you want to go, you know, just revisit your league, see if Berks is available. It might be a nice week for Chiggy to get going. What I want to see here is the Josh Kelly show. Okay. Kelly looked really good in the second half once Austin Echler picked up the ankle injury. We don't know if it's a regular ankle spray and a high ankle. If it's a high ankle, that's likely going to cost Echler multiple weeks. And if you can get Josh Kelly, Josh Kelly will be an RB1 for a month if Austin Echler's out.

And those injuries, they never just heal overnight. He's not practicing today, by the way. He's not practicing today. That's what I want to see. Yeah, be smart. And, you know, Echler does a lot of fantasy stuff. He was talking to, I think it was to Matt Harmon about, you know, hey, you should go pick up Josh Kelly.

Josh Kelly is still owned in less than 60% of Yahoo Leagues. That's ridiculous, folks. Get on the horn, get off your couch, or just stay on your couch and pull out your phone and add Joshua Kelly. All right, let's move it on down to another game. My God, there's some rough ones this week. Giants coming off maybe the most pathetic showing I've ever seen in a nationally televised game are going to travel across the country to play the tanking cardinals in Arizona.

My God, Joe. I gave you quite the list of games this week. This is horrendous. Can the Cardinals pass rush keep it up? Look, they actually, Jonathan Gannon's boys got after Sam Howl. Now, how much of that was because you're playing Sam Howe? They actually generated a 12.07 quarterback pressure rate over expectation against Sam Howe last year. In the lone time that Gannon's defense faced Danny Dimes last year, they sacked them four times.

These Cardinals are not as talented as last year's Eagles, nor are they as talented as this. year's cowboys. But the Giants offensive line is a disaster. It was a massive problem in week one, especially the right side, and Andrew Thomas is dealing with a hamstring injury. Their left tackle, he's their best offensive line. And I don't care who you're going up against with a front that looks like that. Your quarterback's going to be under pressure. Now, Daniel Jones has been far better in his career as a favorite than as an underdog. They're favored this week, but this offensive line is a big time problem. Yeah, boy, look bad.

Oh, my gosh, for those. As an Eagles fan, I mean, did I relish it a little bit? Sure. But then I had to watch the Cowboys win. So it's like this double-edged sword that I'm not a big fan of. Let's move it along. Boy, is there a bigger story in fantasy this week than the emergence of Brett Whitefield's homeboy,

Puka Nakua? If you've listened to anything put out on fantasy points over the last month or so, You've probably heard Brett Whitefield talking about Puka, how he's going to be used and maybe a Robert Woods type role, maybe kind of Debo Samuelish. Folks, let me lay some of these numbers on you here. 34.5% of the air yards. This is all from fantasy points data. If you're not on there, what are you doing? Stop listening to this podcast.

Press pause. Go sign up for that right now. 15 targets, Joe. 39.5% target percentage of targets per route run of 0.4.4. four four. He had nine first read targets. So they're trying to get him the ball. This is a very small route tree that they're throwing to here in Los Angeles. You look at these these teams right here between Van Jefferson, Tutu Atwell and Pooka and Nakua, they all ran 90% of the team routes. That's who's on the field. And of those guys, who's going to earn targets? It's Pooka Nakuwa.

He's the most athletic. I want to see in this game, can he do it against an elite defense who now has some tape on him? And you know the 49ers are going to be just geared up to stop this kid. Yeah, it's a much tougher matchup for Nakuwa this week, but I'll tell you what, Seattle's secondary is not, it's not bad. As a matter of fact, I think it's pretty good. So Pooka Nakuwa coming out and having that in week number one, it was, I mean, it was in time,

it was Anquam Boldie in what he did in week one. A phenomenal job by Pukkahua. Yes, you know, I'm not trying to come out here and say that Pukunakua is going to, is going to catch 100 passes this year. I don't think anybody's trying to say that. But if you see a veteran quarterback trust a fifth round rookie that much and that rookie looked that good in a blowout win, if you don't think that guy deserves to be at the top of the waiver wire,

I don't know what you're thinking. Of course I've seen people poo-pooing it. Oh, he's the new Kevin Ogletree. All right. Yeah, but we had the track record of Kevin Ogletree being a bit player. What if this guy just got completely underdrafted? You know, it happens. Nobody was clambering to draft Cooper Cup.

I think Pooka Nakua had some Robert Woods in him. He might have some Cooper Cup in him. There's a lot to like here about this kid. No question. And if Matthew Stappert's healthy, he's going to complete passes. We know that. Everyone keeps asking, you know, can he do it if and when Cooper Cup returns? And if he's going to play on the outside and 73% of his snaps like he did this past week,

Of course, because we'll have Cup slide to the inside and play in the slot where he belongs. And then Nakuwa can play on the outside and be very Robert, like I said, Robert Woodsey in. I don't know if we're making up a term there. But Van Jefferson and Tutuette, well, do not command targets. Someone's got to get the ball here in this Rams offense. Hey, the Rams look good. I thought they were going to win like one game all year. Maybe that's the game, but they look pretty solid.

There's always a team that looks way worse in week one than you expect. and there's always a team that looks way better in week one than you expect. Maybe the Rams are that, but Stafford played his ass all. The Raiders are the poster child for that. Every year the Raiders start out like three in one or four and oh, nobody respected the Raiders coming to the season. And then they finished the season with four wins. So we'll see if that happens with the Rams. How about this game, Joe?

I can't wait to listen to you when Paul Kelly talk about this on Sirius X-7. Did you intentionally give me like all the shitty games this week? No, I'm giving you a good one here. I'm giving you a Jets Cowboys, baby. Come on. You don't think there's going to be something to talk about here with Zach Wilson going up against that's a Dallas. I feel bad for the kid. Like, could you think of a worse spot for him?

Like, I mean, if he comes a, a PTA meeting with moms over 40, I mean, that's a good spot for him. Like, this is terrible, man. Like, how can you, I don't know how anybody can, like, sit here. I think Scott Barrett picked the Jets to win. I don't know how you can do that and just be like, I'm just doing it just to do it. There is really no explanation you could have for why the Jazz are going to win this football game,

unless their defense just swallows Dak Prescott alive. But on the other hand, Zach Wilson's already going to be swallowed on the other side. I mean, this has a chance to be, for a kid whose career is already dangling and has been damaged, this has a chance to be like a complete career ruining type of game. And I know we say that sometimes and we're like, and then it always seems like, oh, I forgot. He actually plays for an NFL team and NFL teams have good players and good coaches and coaches can scheme around these things.

I cannot on any level imagine how any jet offensive coach is getting sleep this week. I just don't know. And they're out there saying the right things. It's Zach Wilson's team. We're not looking to add anybody. Nonsense. I saw Diana Rossini and other insiders saying the jets are already sniffing around to some veteran quarterbacks. And listen, it's a short week for them.

What are they going to do? They're not going to bring in Carson Wence or whoever and immediately start him this Sunday. But I want to throw this at you. I've been saying this from on high all week. Garrett Wilson a year ago, excuse me, with Zach Wilson played nine games, 34 receptions, 447 yards, zero touchdowns, less than 50 yards a game, averaged 8.7 fantasy points. I want you, folks, if you're a Garrett Wilson owner right now,

to go out and sell him and sell other owners in your league because he caught a touchdown pass and everybody who watching the game saw it. And you will say, listen, he can, he's quarterback proof. He just scored a touchdown. saw it, he scored a touchdown with Zach Wilson. He can play with him. No, we can't. And if you don't think people in your league will jump by in Garrett Wilson, like, oh, nobody's going to buy him. Yes, they will because they're down Deonté Johnson. They can be down to Andre Hopkins. Folks will buy Garrett Wilson. Trust me. What do you think about that, Joe?

I'm reticent to sell them so low, though, you know, like, I know Hanson's out there trading him for whoever you can get for him. And I just, I instinctively cannot do that. And the reason I can't do that is like based on the garrot the Zach Wilson that i saw last year might be the worst starting quarterback in the NFL and might not even be a decent backup in the NFL i believe it's scott barrett who said the jet's passing yards per game in games with garrett wilson last year was second to last in the NFL and without him was first if garrett wilson has to get peeled off the turf, like a fruit roll-up against the cowboys in this game, they're going to go and sign Joe Flacco or Carson Wents or they're going to call Brady.

I don't care who else is out there. They're going to get Fitzmagic out of retirement. They're going to get one of them. So I can't sell Garrett Wilson knowing that if, here's the deal. If the production is like you outlined. with Garrett Wilson. They will move on from from Zach Wilson this year. If he's at, if Garrett Wilson's averaging eight fantasy points per game, they are going to upgrade on, on Zach Wilson. So that's why I'm not selling him low. Now that doesn't mean maybe they bring

him like Carson once and he's not good. Okay. He'll probably be better. But I can't just sell low understanding that if it's as big a disaster as it could be, the Jets are not going to throw away a season of sauce gardeners prime they're not going to throw away a season of garret wilson's prime they already weren't prepared to do that they already went out and got Aaron rogers and said we can't take this team into 2023 was Zach Wilson they've already shown you what they're going to do so I can't go out there and say oh trade Zach Wilson or trade Garrett Wilson that's the other reason they need to move on from the damn guy yes I can't because I'm going to get Garrett Wilson and Zach Wilson confused I can't trade Garrett Wilson for pennies on the dollar knowing that

that the Jets already know they can't win with Zach Wilson. The worst thing is going to be if their defense wins them games, if they become the Ray Lewis Ravens teams, and now they're winning because it's a pick six and they're back in a punt. And now it's like, oh, the worst case scenario. That's the worst case scenario, Drake, that Zach Wilson goes 15 to 25 every week, makes a couple of big time throws because he's capable.

We know he's capable of doing that. He's got big time arm talent. And here's the part that I've, find unbelievable, doesn't run himself into sacks and doesn't turn the ball over. Because both of those things he's done with alacrity in the NFL. But that is the worst case scenario. He takes care of the ball. The defense wins them games and they don't have to move the ball offensively.

That is the, and I guess it's plausible. I just don't think it's happening this week. One of my favorite buy low candidates at running back. And I don't know how low you're actually buying him right now. But it's Javonte Williams. and he and the Broncos will host the 1-0 commanders at 425 on Sunday. Broncos lost to the Raiders. Not a great debut for Sean Peyton.

Commanders come in with a win. Very still not impressed with this offense at all. I love Giovante Williams. And what I want to see in this game is, are we going to kind of, we're going to put a little more on his plate, kind of what we talked about with Gibbs earlier in the show. So he's coming off this bad knee,

splits work right down the middle, which Samajip run, 29 snaps apiece, right? So here's the best part, guys. He ran 12 routes and he had six targets. Okay. Love that. I'm all for it, Joe. If you're going to have a guy go out and we didn't know if he was even going to play this year or a little on how much he was going to play, but now he's basically your passing down back. He's like your new Elvin Kamara. Sign me up right here. And you're also going to give him 13 carries. So 13 carries. That's going to go up. Six targets. Let's hope that stays there or goes up. That's elite usage for a running back on a team that's in a division.

They're going to win a shootout every week in the AFC West. I love it. That's what I want to see the Broncos. They're not going to win shootouts with the way the offense look, though. Everything was dink and dunk for Russell Wilson. That game, just six drives for each team, which might be the first time that's ever happened. I know Sean. They can dunk in the Javante and the PBOA.

Yeah, well, here's the thing. And by the way, I'm with you. I didn't draft enough Javante, but here's the thing. Samajai P. Rhine was good in that role in week one. And Samajai Pryne is the exact type of running back that coaches love. The guy who's going to go forward, going to catch the ball, he's going to protect, and he's not going to fumble. That's why they signed him. So that's the thing.

I think, you know, P.Rine, if you were drafted in P.rine, I think that's exactly what you wanted to see from P. Ryan in week one. I know we kind of only touched on one thing for each game, but what did you think of Sam Howell and the commander's offense? They did get a win over a, you know, very bad Arizona team. What are we doing? If he plays like that the rest of the year, the commanders are going to draft quarterback or trade for Kotler Murray, one of the two.

Yeah. So, yeah, it wasn't impressive. What was impressive, even in a loss, was how the Patriots defense played against the Eagles. The Eagles came and they looked like a team that had a new offensive and defensive coordinator, but they now go and host the one and no dolphins who just put up points, Joe, like it's going. going out of style. What a fantasy bonanza they had against the Chargers.

So this nice defense, which is, you know, going to be the backbone of the Patriots, welcomes in Tua Waddle, who in full practice today. I just saw. And Tyreek, who is trying to score or catch 2,000 yards this year. It's going to be excited. I'm not going to deny him the ability to do that. He might get it by week seven the way they throw the way. Yeah, yeah, the way they're to do it was awesome in that game. And that, that's the thing that we need to see here. the Chargers defense. I think it's becoming very evident that Brandon Staley might be the fakes

sharpest coach in the league. But the Patriots had a phenomenal game plan last week for Jalen Hertz. And yeah, you know, the Eagles come out, they end played in the preseason. We saw that. That was pretty much a theme throughout the league. A lot of big time quarterbacks did not play well. Two have played very well. I'm really excited to see the chess match on that.

side of the football. If I have my dolphins, I'm starting them. I don't care who they're playing against right now. With that, like, you're not benching Tyree Kill anyway. I don't care. They could be playing the 85 Bears and the Steel Curtin Steelers at the same time and you're not benching Tyree Kill at this point. But it's not like I'm giving fantasy advice by saying, oh, start Tyree Kill. It's what, what I am excited to see is can Tua continue that with a, I don't need him to throw for $4.50, but can he throw for $2.75 and a couple of touchdowns against the defense that played really well last week. I'm really excited to watch this game in prime time because I think this is this, that Patriots team by the way, I thought Bill O'Brien called an exceptional football game against

the Eagles. They played with tempo. They kept the Eagles off, off balance. If the Patriots are going to be a high-paced team, this is going to be good fantasy games regardless of how good their defense is. We got a pair of Monday nighters, the first of which Saints Panthers. I, There's not much I'm excited about looking at the Panthers. It really is not a whole lot I'm excited about with this game. So if I'm going to pick something from it, I want to see how this Saints offense continues to distribute their passes. Chris Alave had 10 targets. Michael Thomas, remember him?

He had eight targets, caught five for 61. And Rashid Shaheed, who another guy available in way too many waiver wires, went five for 89 and touchdown. I want to see how they spread the ball out if Michael Thomas can actually be a weak. thing in fantasy. Maybe if you're in a deep league, maybe 14, 16 teams, Michael Thomas could be a guy you plug in there and start. And is Rashid Shaheed and every week, maybe a flex option if you're out there. Because if a guy's going to get five for 89 and score every couple of weeks, I mean, that's pretty good in fantasy football. Chris Alave, we know he's always in your lineup.

Yeah, he's going to be really good. Can the Saints actually finish a damn drive? Continuing with the Derek Carthine, the guy throws for 300 yards. And every time he gets in the red zone, the guy turns into Zach Wilson. It's remarkable. It's remarkable, Drake. I'd be given Jamal Williams another go this week. Obviously, the Panthers' run defense was atrocious against the Falcons, who might have the best run game in football. But Jamal Williams got the bell cow role.

This is why you drafted him to play him in weeks in which Alvin Camara is out. I would go back to the well with Jamal Williams this week. 18 for 45 doesn't instill a lot of, you know, hope. But, hey, we'll see what happens this week. Joe, the final game on the docket is yours, the second Monday nighter in 815 kickoff Eastern between the Browns who just looked phenomenal defensively, especially against the band. Okay, I'm glad you put that qualifier in there.

Yeah, again, and they go and they're going to take on the Steelers, who will be without Deontay Johnson. He's going to be down for at least a month. It looks like with a hamstring issue, I went and scooped up some Alan Robinson on my waiver wire. I think Calvin Austin's a better player, but I don't trust Matt Canada at all. So I think he's going to donkey it up and give Alan Robinson touches. The answer to Najee Harris versus Jalen Warren was no. The Steelers just had no opportunities to get going.

Well, no, no, let's put it this way. They had opportunities. Kenny Pickett just didn't take them. And this is where we're going back to. and I think everybody is going, nobody is going to watch this game with a level head on Monday night. Just start drinking. You know how we discussed earlier? Oh, you know, why is everybody freaking out about Justin Fields and not Lamar Jackson?

Because we've seen Lamar Jackson be good and we haven't seen Justin Fields be good. These are two quarterbacks now who in general, with the exception of preseason for Kenny Pickett, and yes, I understand the Steelers could have had the level worst matchup they could have possibly. had coming off a good preseason. These are two quarterbacks now who have not looked good in their current uniforms at all. I mean, there's been some flashes from Pickin, and I guess Watson makes some plays with his legs. Watson's got the weather excuse. Pickett's got the excuse to play in the 49ers, but you know what?

At some point, you got to play a good defense and not completely shit yourself. And Pickett shot himself last week. Oh, he was terrible. There were throws. Deontay Johnson should have had 100 yards in a touchdown in the first half. In the first half of that game. And Pickett was just atrocious. So we need to see if this, I don't need them to blow it up.

I need the Steelers to look like a functional NFL offense. And honestly, same thing with the Browns. Look like a functional NFL offense when Nick Chubb isn't bailing U.S. Yeah, Nick Chub goes 18 for 106. This is an offense though in Cleveland. There was only 4 of 14 on third down. even gaining 350 yards. That's a Deshawn problem.

Yeah. I mean, you've got to be able to sustain drives, and you've got to be better than that if you want to win, especially in a really tough AFC. Well, Joe, we did it. We cruised around the league. We did it under 45 minutes. I think, you know, the ice cubes haven't quite melted yet in your rocks glass. So you'll be ready to go once we click end to this podcast.

Oh, I should be, Drake. I remember we're recording this Thursday. You're listening to it Friday. I'm looking forward to it. As we, I just got bombarded with more stuff that I need to edit and pose while we're on the podcast. So I got to get going, Drake. Thanks for hustling through it quick.

I like these previews. Let's focus on one big thing. And then we'll head into the weekend. All right, folks. If you're liking what you're hearing, make sure you're subscribed to that Fantasy Points podcast feed. Leave us a nice five-star review on iTunes. Go over that YouTube page, YouTube.com slash Fantasy Points and click that subscribe button.

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