Fantasy Football Daily - Week 2 Waiver Wire: Must-Add Players & Sleepers

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

Use code SCOREMORE10 at checkout for 10% OFF any subscription. Dominate your league. Win more bets. Level up your game It’s time to attack the Week 2 fantasy football waiver wire! On Fantasy Foot...ball Daily, Theo Gremminger highlights the top must-add players, sneaky sleepers, and stashes that could swing your season. At wide receiver, Hollywood Brown’s 16 targets and heavy slot usage put him on the radar as a short-term fix, while Quentin Johnston, Kayshon Boutte, Malik Washington, and Elic Ayomanor (25% target share, 80% route participation) headline deeper options. At quarterback, Daniel Jones is trending toward “this year’s Sam Darnold,” while Michael Penix Jr. and Jaxson Dart offer intriguing stash appeal. In the backfield, DJ Giddens, Jaydon Blue, Kenny Gainwell, and Will Shipley lead a tricky RB group—plus why you shouldn’t cut Keaton Mitchell and why he’s still worth holding alongside Derrick Henry. Tight end seekers can turn to Juwan Johnson, Harold Fannin Jr., Theo Johnson, or Michael Mayer for early-season production. Whether you need a plug-and-play starter or a forward-looking stash, this episode has everything you need to crush your Week 2 waiver moves. Where to find us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://twitter.com/TheOGFantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://twitter.com/⁠⁠TomBrolley⁠ ⁠http://twitter.com/FGDolan ⁠⁠⁠ Join the Discord here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com/media/discord#/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to Fantasy Points for FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com/plans#/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Transcription Here: https://podsqueeze.com/embedded/transcript/FciBvdjPH7UwqcPcdgz9ct Fantasy Points Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fantasypoints.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ NEW! Data Suite - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://data.fantasypoints.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/FantasyPts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/FantasyPts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/FantasyPts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fantasypts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ #FantasyFootball #2025Rankings #FantasyFootballAdvice #NFL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Week two, fantasy football waiver wire editions. Theo Greminger with Joe Dolan and Tom Broley, Fantasy Football Daily on the Fantasy Points Podcast Network. Guys, week one, nearly in the books. And the question for both of you is, is Hollywood Brown the number one waiver wire edition this week? Hollywood Brown, this past game was really sensational on a usage standpoint. 16 targets that currently leads the NFL heading into Monday night football.
Starting point is 00:00:38 football, 41% target share, 40% first read rate. And Joe Dolan, the thing that was really interesting was he had a 52% slot rate. So when we talked about the Kansas City all summer long, one of the main reasons we liked guys like Rashi Rice was this slot usage. It seems like Hollywood Brown has it. Even for the short term, it's very encouraging. Yeah. Now, the question I have with Hollywood Brown is when the chiefs have the opportunity to game plan,
Starting point is 00:01:07 I don't think they game planned on Travis Kelsey running into Xavier Worthy with a F-150, three plays into the game. So I think that turned into, all right, Patrick Mahomes improvising. I have to use what I have and throw 41% of my passes at Hollywood Brown. Nonetheless, they're going to have to try to survive for the next five weeks if Xavier Worthy's out that long without Rishie Rice. And then on top of that, you have to look at the fact that Kansas City, their defense, did not offer much resistance to the charger,
Starting point is 00:01:39 so they're going to have to throw the football. So it's a boring but necessary waiver ad for Hollywood Brown, in my opinion. Yeah, I would just be a little bit concerned. You know, it was, you know, a lot of targets, a lot of catches, but it was for very little yardage until that big bomb at the end of the game, that 49-yarder really made the numbers look a lot better with more time to game plan. So they spread the ball around a little bit better, gets, you know, Travis Kelsey involved,
Starting point is 00:02:06 to our metrics or our ass metrics actually said that Kelsey was open quite a bit in the game and he just wasn't getting targets. So that would be my concern. Xavier Worthy, how long is he going to be out? It's this dislocated shoulder. A lot of times guys are able to play through that type of injury after a little bit of a rest. He'll probably be in a brace of some sort. So I do think that he'll probably miss, you know, at least a game or two here. But while Rice is out, I mean, there's certainly a huge role up for grabs here in Kansas City. He stacked together a lot of catches here. He has to be taken very seriously off the waiver wire.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Only 24% owned. People just were passing on him all summer long, not a whole lot of love. But, you know, one game into the season here, he's looking like a viable wide receiver three right now. Yeah, and also for dynasty managers, especially FFPC ones, check your waiver wires for Hollywood Brown because, guys, he was sort of left for dead by a lot in the dynasty community. He could be sort of a get you through the next, maybe it could be a couple games. Still like a real lack of clarity with some of the Xavier Worthy stuff being in Brazil, having to get back to the States to get a lot of those tests.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Very interesting here. And, you know, Hollywood had that one drop sort of early on. It could have been even better for him in the bottom line. But when you look at it, he had several first downs. He was four first downs. And what was really notable guys, and not to get on like an anti-T Travis Kelsey, trip here. Kelsey injures, Xavier worthy, and Kelsey looked pretty dusty. I know he had the touchdown where he was completely left open, sort of jogged into the end zone on a long touchdown,
Starting point is 00:03:42 but it doesn't look like Travis Kelsey is Travis Kelsey of old. So I'm sort of buying into this Hollywood Brown short term. Now, one player who very much under the radar, you reference the availability, this player is going to be available in a ton of leagues. And that's Cajon Boutte of the New England Patriots. And last year, we saw him. him sort of relegate Javan Baker, Jalen Polk, the two players they drafted last year. Boutte ended the year on a very high note. Two out of his last three games, he was giving you near wide receiver one production. And he was doing it alongside Drake May.
Starting point is 00:04:18 The great Ryan Heath of Fantasy Points points out that last year, Boutte easily led the New England Patriots with 743 air yards in Drake May's games. And yesterday, on Sunday, day. Bouté led New England in receiving. And I think he's interesting guys because he's 23 years old. And Tom, when we talk about like the reputation, it's an LSU wide receiver goes in the sixth round. But there was a time if we go back to like 2020, 2021, where people thought he would end up being a first round pick in the NFL draft. Big time Debbie guy. Like the Debbie community has been on him forever. And he seems to have a real connection with Drake May. and again, still a very young player.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah, he was going to be a prospect that a lot of people were looking at and had a rough final season at LSU. Didn't test very well, fell in the whole process, and was, you know, kind of relegated at the end of the draft and worked his way back up the depth chart here. You know, they spent premium picks on Javon Baker and Jalen Polk last year. And Boutet has been the guy that's kind of risen here over the last year or two. And kind of quiet training camp, not a whole lot was said about him.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But here he is in week one. out leads them in Snapshare at the position, 82%. Gets the over 100 yards. He had a 100 yard game in his last game of the season against the Bill's backups last year. Had a 95-yard game, as you pointed out as well, in week 16. So if we're looking at the last four games played, he's at 95 yards and three of them. So starting to feel like it isn't a fluke. So if I was looking for more, you know, for potential upside later in the season, I think I'd rather go for Bouté over Hollywood Brown because I think we're all kind of expecting Rishi Rice and Xavier Worthy worthy to be the go-to receivers in Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:06:04 But this New England passing game, Stefan Diggs is an older player. They were kind of working him in a little bit yesterday. Didn't play the full allotment of snaps. They were kind of rotating him with Douglas a little bit. So I would expect his routes and stuff to go up. But he was also a guy we were kind of avoiding a little bit, 30-some-year-old receiver coming off an ACL. So maybe there's a chance that Bouté becomes the number one receiver here
Starting point is 00:06:27 in New England and certainly playing with a quarterback that we all kind of liked here at fantasy points in Drake May. Yeah, and Joe, six catches for 103 yards. And I think at the very least, when we talked about Pop Douglas in our preseason Waverwire show, and certainly I drafted some Pop Douglas this offseason, I know a lot of underdog drafters, a lot of bestball drafters are sort of like, okay, Pop Douglas on the board, I've drafted Drake May. I would love to just trade my Pop Douglas shares for Cajon Bouté right now. If I could do a dude, over. First of all, I have to tell you guys that you are giving this way too many French vibes here. His name is actually booty. Yeah. It's booty. It's like, you know, he's caked up. I agree with
Starting point is 00:07:10 you. I actually started Pop Douglas in a 14 team league yesterday. I'm not upset with the fact that he got seven targets, but I think he had negative receiving yards. Yeah. Yeah. He scored a touchdown too. A little bit. A little bail out on that touchdown. Yeah. He was targeted two times in a row in the end zone actually, but nonetheless, didn't Kishon Booty like flash early in his rookie season? And then he kind of fell out of favor. But that's two coaching staffs ago, right? Like so maybe a player who has matured, you mentioned he's 23. There are rookies in the league who are older than Kishon Booty. So I don't know how much I'm buying here right away, but I think it's, I think it's worth an ad. And where I have Pop Douglas, I think I am going to try to make that change for Kishon Booty. Yeah, we, we never like,
Starting point is 00:07:54 And again, for this show, occasionally we'll drop some FAB recommendations, but we don't know the size of your league. We don't know how many wide receivers you start. I think if it's a start three wide receiver format or if it's a setting that has full PPR with multiple flex spots, I think he becomes very, very appealing. And if you have Drake May, you can build some correlation with him. I think certainly he needs to move up and Douglas needs to move down a little bit. And it's just this offense, there's still a lot of question marks about it, but I am absolutely buying the hype. I think he's worth a price check. Okay, guys, this is one where I figured we'd have to talk about at some point this year, because it's a guy who had some success last year. A lot of times Scott Barrett would talk about how this player benefited from broken coverages more than anyone in the 2024 season. But Quentin Johnston starts off the year, red, red hot, looked really, really good in Brazil,
Starting point is 00:08:50 two touchdown catches. How guarded are you going to be with your sort of of takes here. Do you think that there is some optimism about him taking another step forward as a player heading into year three here? Justin Herbert looks fantastic. Where are you out on this one? Start out with Joe. It's hard for me to give up on first round pedigree, even if the player through the first couple of years hasn't looked all that good. And if Justin Herbert looks anywhere close to what he did, and he has his, he has had his moments for sure, it's going to be hard to quit this player. the question I have when it comes to Quentin Johnston, though, is the targets that are going to go to other players.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Keenan Allen booked really good. Ladd McConkey is Ladd McConkey. So maybe we were overrating Ladd McConkey's target hogness on this, on this particular show or on fantasy points in general. But in week one, you know, I'm interested what Tom has to say about this. Kashon Booty might be the Patriots number one receiver. I'm not 100% sure how valuable that is as opposed to maybe if Quentin Johnston becomes the Chargers number two, and Keenan Allen goes back into the, you know, he's the slot, he's the third down guy if Justin Herbert needs a third down. But Johnson looked really good. And if Justin Herbert takes the next level, and the other thing, guys, I think Greg Roman was in his bag in that game. I know Justin Herbert looked great, but how many times did they have guys just running wide ass open? And if that's the case,
Starting point is 00:10:20 when Quentin Johnson has fewer opportunities to make mistakes, if he's just running wide open and he uses that natural athleticism. Yeah, there's no denying. He looked quick and he used a size, you know, to score those touchdowns. And that was something what we saw a little bit last year. He led them in end zone targets, sees two of them right away in week one. I do worry, though, overall, at the end of the day, I do think Ladd McConkey and Keenan Allen are going to see more targets than Quentin Johnson over the course of the season.
Starting point is 00:10:48 So Johnson's going to have to continue to run pretty hot with these touchdowns. But in the positive column, he did, you know, work ahead of Keenan Allen. He was their receiver next to Lab McConkey and two wide receiver sets. We do know the Chargers, you know, tend to like to run the ball a little bit if they had a little more success or maybe if they weren't playing the Chiefs. Maybe they would run a little bit more. But the sample size is starting to, you know, it's pretty substantial at this point. They're throwing the ball a lot since about week seven last year.
Starting point is 00:11:15 They ranked sixth in pass rate over expectation over the last 12 weeks of last year. They come out in this game, just firing the ball all over the field, 13 and a half percent pass rate over expectation. It's going to be right at the top of the league for at least week one here. I mean, we know how much Harbaugh absolutely loves Justin Herbert. So they're going to throw it a lot. You know, Johnson's going to be very viable here. I'd still probably prefer Boutte, but Johnston in this offense, it's going to be throwing a lot with Herbert. Certainly a viable pickup here.
Starting point is 00:11:45 You're going to be able to use them in some weeks here in the near future. Yeah, what's interesting for me is at this time last year, I was also recommending Quentin Johnston, and now we sort of write them off. Keenan Allen signs there. Keenan Allen looked fantastic guys. Joe, I'm glad you brought up Greg Roman because there's a lot of members of the fantasy community who refused to give any sort of praise whatsoever to Greg Roman. He's sort of one of these offensive coordinators that people pile on.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Certainly it dates back to the big playoff losses in Baltimore. I think that's sort of, and the antiquated view. Maybe that wasn't his fault by the. I look at last night. Yeah, I know. Hey, how about that one? But Greg Roman, I mean, you love seeing this sort of rational coaching where I think Justin Herbert was going to prove to be extremely mispriced this past off season. I look forward to talking about that with Scott Barrett on School of Scott.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I'm sure you guys are going to cover it all week long. But Justin Herbert, him looking fantastic. And guys, a couple of notable usage takeaways, only three total targets for Tyler Conklin and Will Disley. So the tight end role, which was really valuable at times last year in L.A., at least wasn't in week one. And they weren't targeting the running backs. We saw Omar and Hampton with two catches. I believe Najee Harris had one.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So maybe this number three wide receiver role is going to have a little more value than some fantasy gamers are maybe giving credit to it. And I think Quentin Johnson's a guy that never is going to be, it's never going to be like irrational fab bids because he scored a bunch of points because he failed people that rookie season and that sort of holds on with him in his reputation. So yeah, I'm with you. Kishon Booty. I'll say it as booty as I can for Joe Dolan. And I think I would agree with you. I think for long-term prospects and consistent usage, he's there. Spike Weeks, Quentin Johnston, also a viable ad this week. Talk about Calvin Austin, guys, another player where Aaron Rogers looked really, really good. And we're not going to sit here talking about Aaron Rogers too much, but we are going to talk about some of these tertiary pieces of the Pittsburgh offense.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Calvin Austin, a speed demon Tom Brawley, and the final stat line looked pretty good. And clearly the number two targeted wide receiver in this offense behind D.K. Metcalf. Yeah, that was a little bit of a question. The assumption coming out of training camp was that Calvin Austin would be the number two wide receiver here. But the Roman Wilson guy that we kind of liked last year coming on Michigan, barely played at all. He's buried down the depth chart here still. It was all Calvin Austin next to D.K. half 80% snap share in the season opener. So clearly showed a little bit of, you know, chemistry with
Starting point is 00:14:20 Aaron Rogers. They had some nice design targets for them as well off a little bit of a play action, using that speed to get some separation from some, you know, just defenders there. And so this looks like a pretty sizable rule. The question is just how many, how many snaps, you know, they like to rotate a little bit. They like to get these tight ends out in the field. Johnny Smith certainly saw enough targets was six with a limited rules. Pat Friarmouth is still involved in this offense. So I have a feeling that this number two receiver spot behind Metcalf is going to bounce around to some guys throughout the year. It was Calvin Austin this week, but we're going to have some Pat Friarmerth weeks. We're going to have some John Hsu Smith weeks. We're going to have some
Starting point is 00:15:02 weeks where they just run the ball a whole lot if they get this running game going a little bit. So Austin's a little bit lower down my list, but certainly showed some ability to make some big plays if you're looking for that off the waiver wire. Joe, anything to add on Calvin Austin? How about Calvin Austin mossing a guy? Did not know he had that in his repertoire as a smaller receiver going up and over a corner to make a long catch. The one thing I will say about the usage is look at how big a discrepancy there was between his snap share and the number three receiver, which was Roman Wilson and Ben Scronick, who actually
Starting point is 00:15:37 scored in this game. He was in on 80% of the snaps. 18% were the next highest wide receivers after Calvin Austin and DK Metcalf. So it looks like he is very clearly ahead of those two. It's just as you said, Theo, you mentioned tertiary pieces. Arthur Smith loves his tertiary pieces. He loves trying to scheme it up for everybody. Maybe this was Calvin Austin's week,
Starting point is 00:16:02 but I want to see if that usage continues for sure. The one thing I am concerned about from a big picture perspective is the fact that when it comes to the Steelers, I wonder if we're going to be looking at this game in like six weeks and being like, yeah, remember when the Steelers and Jets had a shootout? That feels like three years ago. I'm still going to pump the brakes on the Steelers here, but the usage was really encouraging. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And speaking of encouraging, just how nasty was that Isaac Tesla touchdown grab to end the game? I mean, like Isaac Tesla, we talked about him in the preseason waiver wire. Tom, how much contingent upside does Tesla have in this offense if one of the, if any of the wide receivers or Sam LaPorte go down. I mean, it could be massive. I do worry, though, we did see in week one here, Khalif Raymond was very much clearly the number three wide receiver. So if there was some hesitation there, at least early in the season, to give him a big role, only played three snaps. And of course, he scored the awesome touchdown where it gets both feet in as he's falling out of the end zone there. So, but maybe plays like that get more opportunities for him. And certainly that offense yesterday,
Starting point is 00:17:09 I mean, the Packers were able to keep the Lions in front of them all game long. We're used to seeing those Ben Johnson Lions' offenses, you know, lighting up defenses down the field. And that part of the Lions offense was non-existent. All those Jamir Gibbs checkdowns was happy about that because I had his player prop over his receiving yards. But, you know, that's not going to cut it moving forward here. So maybe they need to get a guy like Tesla more involved. But one of those guys goes down, Jameson Williams, as he said, or Or Amon Raw, I would think that they're going to try to get him a bigger role in this offense and
Starting point is 00:17:39 try to get a little more explosive in this. So not a whole lot of value as is, but he might be one of those guys you just want to kind of hold if you're playing in a high stakes league and you have really deep benches and he's kind of just your last roster spot. And if something happens in that lion's offense, there's some potential for him to potentially jump into a big role and put up some monster games later in the year. Joe, eight targets six catches for Wondale Robinson. Again, sort of did his Wondale Robinson thing, 55 receiving yard. but we sort of want to like brush him aside. Last year had about the least productive, highly targeted season anyone could imagine,
Starting point is 00:18:18 but he's continuing to draw targets. Do you have any interest in having him on your fantasy teams? He's a guy, Theo, who if I have an injury or I have a buy, I'll plug him into my lineup because I can expect like 10 fantasy points from him. Other than that, why am I holding him on my bench, right? We know what he is. six catches for 55 yards is like, geez, I hope he had some oxygen after averaging like nine yards per reception, which is higher than we're typically used to from him. Now, he to me is not somebody who's particularly interesting in a normal league because you can find somebody to catch five for 50 on the waiver wire when you need one.
Starting point is 00:18:56 If maybe I had Xavier Worthy and my waiver wire isn't very deep, that's somebody who I'm like, all right, I just need points while I wait for Xavier Worthy to come back or if I have Rishi Rice and, I'm waiting for him to come back and I just need points. Wondale Robinson makes sense. Other than that, I'd prefer to hold any of the other names we discussed here. Yeah, no for sure. And we could cover a ton more at the wide receiver position. And certainly in your leagues you want to come through. There's some players maybe we didn't talk about that might be available in your leagues.
Starting point is 00:19:27 But I will mention Malik Washington, Jalen Waddle now banged up. Malik Washington was on the field a ton yesterday for a very, very bad Miami Dolphins offense. Deontay Thornton, we told you to Adam in the preseason. I think that role could expand as the season moves along. And Gino Smith looked very, very good. And Eelik Ayamanner didn't put up the numbers, but he had 25% target share. He was running like 80% of the routes run. Tom and Joe, start out with you, Tom.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Any other wide receiver you'd like to point out? And then we'll kick it to Joe. I'll second the IU Manor. I mean, that is a guy. The numbers don't look great here after week one. He's not going to be, you know, the Joe Schmoe in your leg is not going to be targeting him. But, you know, that was a very promising start to his rookie, you know, season here. Very clearly the number two wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:20:16 We heard a lot leading up to the season that, and we saw the depth chart where he was number two. But, you know, we always go to the season. Maybe Tyler Lockett and some of these other guys are going to be rotating with him. Now, he was very clearly the number two wide receiver. And that was about the worst possible matchup Cam Ward could have to start his career. going out to mile high, playing that defense, just under constant pressure. But IU Manor's rule is looking very robust here heading into the second game of the year. So another tough matchup against the Rams, but he's definitely a guy I would want on my roster for later in the year.
Starting point is 00:20:51 But, you know, I'll show up a little, you know, Jaden Higgins and Christian Kirk. These are guys that could be dropped at, you know, some point here. Kirk may have already been dropped in one of your shallower legs because of this hamstring injury. but they very clearly need somebody to step up at the second wide receiver spot. I don't know what the Texans are doing. Wasting snaps on Xavier Hutchinson. We saw this last year, never did anything next to Nico Collins, and they're playing them 68% of the snaps.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And Justin Watson out there running sprints like he was in Kansas City. Just totally wasting the two wide receiver spots next to Nico Collins. So at some point, they're going to come to their senses with Jane Higgins, get him on the field more. And Christian Kirk, I do expect. him probably to miss another game here with the hamstring injury. But I do think he could be valuable as the number two wide receiver. Clearly Hutchinson and Watson are going to be commanding very many targets moving forward. Yeah, Justin Watson's inevitable. He's a guy that just sort of,
Starting point is 00:21:49 why is he ever out there? It happens every year for us in fantasy. Joe, any wide receivers to add or we covered them all? Cedric Tillman is the only other one. He had a run last year where he was like the number one fantasy receiver when James Winston was in the lineup. And Joe Flacko's out there slinging it. He had a strong week one, got in the end zone, five for 52 at eight targets, good target share. The only concern I have is that the Brown scored 16 points against the Cincinnati Bengals defense. So, but Cedric Tillman was a guy drafted a lot in bestball and early returns were good there. Yeah, and that nice professional segue from Joe Dolan, because after we take this break, we're going to talk about another Cleveland Brown's pass catcher.
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Starting point is 00:23:43 And if you're looking to level up your fantasy game this year, consider a subscription to fantasy points. Use the code Theo and get 15% off any package, including fantasy points data. Joe, Tom, we tried to tell them in the preseason. We tried to tell them. We told everybody to add Harold Fanon Jr. I had a bunch of people DMing saying, thanks, guys, for the Harold Fanon recommendation.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Because Harold Fanon Jr. Just tied an NFL record, tied alongside Tyler Warren, tied an NFL record for the most catches by a rookie tight end in an NFL opener with seven. Fanon was awesome. And they got him going early, guys. You mentioned the Bengals defense.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Well, they must have seen something in their scouting and preparation, thinking, let's get Harold Fanon the ball early and often. Three catches and a rush attempt in the first quarter alone. Fanon looks like the real deal. And what's interesting is David and Joku wasn't like invisible. He was just out produced by Fanon. Start out with you, Tom. You're on the Fanon bandwagon. We all were. Yeah. This feels good. Yeah. Even I though, like I was not expecting this in week one. I thought it might be a gradual thing where you know, they kind of work them in a little bit more as the weeks move along. But first drive of the game, catches three passes. I think he was even targeted more than that. There might have been some penalties
Starting point is 00:25:03 on some plays. And then he gets the Wildcat snap as a runner as well. So they were just looking for ways to get him involved. It was a good matchup for tight ends against that Bengals defense. But massive rule right out of the gates here playing a lot of two tight end sets, 72% of the snaps. So right next to Injoku. So the main concern moving forward is just how long Joe Flacco is going to be in the lineup. Do have some concerns about the quarterback behind Joe Flacco. but this rule looks very robust right now. Joe Flacco, I think, will at least get, you know, a handful more starts. I mean, they were competitive yesterday.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Had a chance to win that game against the Bengals, but, you know, everything is looking up here. The third wide receiver really wasn't involved in, you know, in the Brown's offense here. So Cedric Tillman, Jerry Judy, David and Jokoo and Fanon out in the field. So I think they'll probably want to stick with that moving forward. And there's always this chance in a couple of weeks here, trade deadline. Not very close right now, but we know those Cleveland Browns are looking to stock up
Starting point is 00:26:04 draft picks and they want to be picking high in next year's draft so they can get a quarterback. David Njoku's in the final year of his contract. I would anticipate that they're going to shop him around and try to get something for him in a few weeks, you know, in October or November there. So by the end of the season, Fannin's role could be massive moving forward if Njoku is out of the picture. Yeah, and I remember some sharp fantasy analyst last week's telling everybody that the Browns are going to be in 12 personnel a lot. Oh, wait, that was Joe Dolan. So Joe Dolan, you were right on that one.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Hey, I got to give credit to Nathan Zagura, who's the Browns color commentator, who told me that they're going to be in a lot of 12 personnel. So here's the thing about Fanon, Theo, that I'm not 100% sure. Look, if David and Joku was gone, like Tom said, maybe they trade him, if he's gone, though, I'm not sure how much Fanon's role changes, because I think he's a really particular type of player. They lined him up in the backfield, split him out, I don't think he's very much of an inline tight end.
Starting point is 00:27:01 He has a fullback's number. You know, he's wearing 44. But this is very clearly a player they highlighted as having a plan for. And they executed that plan in week one. Yeah. And another tight end who really looked good is Brenton Strange. And he's going to be rostered a little bit more heavily than Harold Finn and Jr. But he's certainly available in enough leagues that we should talk about.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Some very like weird usage for some of the wide receivers in Jacksonville. But Strange stood out. Talk about it, Tom. your enthusiasm levels for Brent and Strange. Yeah, very, very strong showing here. We saw it last year when Evan Ingram was always, you know, whenever he was out of the lineup, Strange would usually step into a pretty big role here.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And it continued. You know, this is a new coaching staff. Just wanted to kind of just, just wanted to see it a little bit. And the only thing is, you know, just four targets. There was a lot of targets to Travis Hunter in the underneath areas of the field, but was able to do a lot with those targets getting 59 yards. I do think he'll be the number three option in this passing game behind Brian Thomas. and Travis Hunter.
Starting point is 00:27:59 We saw Kate Otten have a lot of success as Liam Cohen's tight end last year. You know, a lot of it, you know, came later in the season whenever Godwin and Mike Evans were out of the lineup. But Strange is, you know, a freaky guy. He's a Penn State, one of these Penn State tight end that you're full of, you know, athleticism. So continue to develop here. But yeah, he is a little bit lower on my tight end, you know, priorities here.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I would definitely prioritize Fanon because I do think he is pushed down this receiver. depth chart a little bit behind Thomas and Hunter. Yeah, I will say that the Johnny Munt touchdown was a little bit fluky. If that one went to Brenton Strange, I think maybe the enthusiasm. I mean, thankfully, I think the fact that he didn't catch that means that he's a player that you might be able to get as maybe the number three tight end added, because there's a couple other players we're going to talk about, Joe, anything to add on Brent and Strange? Yeah, I just love that Brent and Strange decided that even though Tyler Warren had three catches for 43 yards on the Colts opening drive, Brent and Strings wasn't going to let Tyler Warren even lead Penn State tight ends in that department in week number one because he had three catches for 48 yards on the opening drive.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I think he's probably going to be a yo-yo. He's going to be a roster. I call him a yo-yo for fantasy. They're going to go up and down on and off fantasy rosters. Just because of the nature of this offense, you know, I would think that the Jaguars are going to come out next week and try to make sure Brian Thomas gets his after a week, week one showing. But nonetheless, this is a super talented player. who we have seen produce when given the opportunity as he did when Evan Ingram was out last year. Yeah, he's an interesting one. And I think Strange, you know, he's young. We sort of a little bit of a mystery box type player, like you said, it was we saw him a little bit at times last year. I'm intrigued. I want to see kind of where this is headed.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Certainly we can't expect for Brian Thomas Jr. to be this unproductive week in, week out. I think the Travis Hunter role could also grow. but strange. It's sort of a bet on talent and opportunity situation. Another player who I didn't think we'd be talking about having this level of production, but Joanne Johnson with Spencer Rattler starting the game, with Kellyn Moore's first game as head coach in New Orleans, Joanne Johnson ends up with eight catches, 76 yards. This was a really strong one for him. And every other tight end in New Orleans is banged up right now.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Joanne Johnson seems to be having a really massive. massive opportunity to put up kind of low-end, tight-end one numbers, at least for the beginning of the year. Interested in this one, Tom? Is this a fluky box score to you? Or are you interested in adding some Joanne Johnson to your teams? I'm interested on the low end. Maybe if you're playing in a tight-end premium league. It's, I mean, he never left the field yesterday. He was on the field for all but one snap for the Saints. We know that they're going through some issues, Tayson Hill, Foster Moreau, both on the PUP list here to start the season. It doesn't sound like either of them is particularly close to playing.
Starting point is 00:30:56 So I wouldn't be surprised if Thursdays last into, you know, middle of October or even November for both of those guys. So Jelon Johnson's kind of locked in here to a pretty big role. So he had a lot of chemistry with Spencer Rattler. It was kind of a comfort for him in the middle of the field there. But I do worry about the overall offense here in New Orleans. They held it together yesterday. But Krista Lave and Rashid Shaheed are the very, very, very. clearly the top two receivers for Spencer Rattler moving forward is Juan Johnson going to continue
Starting point is 00:31:29 to be a factor in an offense that's probably going to be throwing for, you know, around 200 yards every week. And they're probably not going to be scoring a lot of touchdowns either. And we're always at the tight end position that, you know, we're looking for guys that at least have the potential to score touchdowns. And, you know, the Saints are not, you're going to be among the bottom feeders in terms of touchdown scored this year. So, you know, I do worry about it overall. But that 99% snapshot is hard to look past a massive role
Starting point is 00:31:58 here in week one. Yeah, and I'll mention that Hunter Henry was on the field pretty much the entire game. Chigacanquo, a ton of usage. Question for you, Joe, if Brock Bowers misses, let's say a week, a week, let's give him a, let's keep it, I don't want to even say more than a week because I'll start getting sick to my stomach.
Starting point is 00:32:14 But let's say Brock Bowers, Brock Bowers says he's fine, says that the knee is fine. It's, there's no negativity on Bowers' end, but let's say that he misses a week, maybe two weeks, would you be interested in streaming Michael Mayer in your tight end spot? This might be a guy who I will pick up
Starting point is 00:32:31 if I have Brock Bowers. There is a week two Monday night football double header guys and the Raiders play the 10 p.m. Eastern game of that double header, nasty. That might be a have Michael Mayer on your bench as a contingency plan if the Raiders decide that they're going to make this
Starting point is 00:32:51 a game time decision with Brock Bowers. He played more snaps than Brock Bowers. Brock Bowers wasn't an every snap player in week one. And on almost all of his snaps week one, the Raiders called a passing play. So that's something that Chip Kelly is going to have to start mixing up a little bit, I would think. But nonetheless, Michael Mayer got a lot of snaps and I would think that would continue, especially if Brock Bowers misses. Yeah, that 10 p.m. start on Monday is going to be tough, especially if his like status is up in the air here. There are at least two games on Monday. But if you look at the schedule, it's the Buccaneers, they have Cade on, and Dalton
Starting point is 00:33:26 Schultz with the Texans, Tyler Conklin with the Chargers, none of those guys are very appealing. So you want to ride it out until that 10 p.m. kick on Monday with Brock Bowers and, you know, hopefully it doesn't come down to a game time status. But we're doing waivers here. We got to plan ahead, think ahead. It might be worth picking up Michael Mayer, even though every, you know, everything that's coming out of Brock Bowers mouth is positive. We know these athletes can tend to tend to skew a little more positive when they're talking about themselves. So we'll see what happens here. They were in New England, obviously, traveling back to Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:33:57 So probably getting some more testing done here over the next day or two. Yeah, we really, really hope that Brock Bowers plays. The usage stuff, we could spend a whole hour talking about that alone when it comes to Bowers. But the bottom line production, five catches, over 100 receiving yards. Maybe this was just a New England specific game plan with Bowers. I'm sort of taking a glass. half-full, optimistic approach that they want to actually keep the best, the most talented
Starting point is 00:34:23 tight end in the NFL on the field in a higher snap rate than we saw this past week. But I agree with you guys. I think that it's almost like a handcuff running back. Treat it sort of like you would if your RB1 was banged up and he was a game time decision. You would absolutely pick up that handcuff if he was free. Michael Mayer will be free in a lot of formats this week. And I think would have real viability, I think, if Bowers was out. So, Keep an eye on that one. Let's pivot over to the running back position right after this. This Giving Tuesday, Cam H is counting on your support.
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Starting point is 00:36:45 Go back to the Atlanta days, Cordero, Pazons. Patterson, Tyler Algier. These guys were putting up numbers. They were in our fantasy lineups. Kenneth Gainwell, you know, that we plays behind DeAndre Swift, plays behind Sequin Barkley, was sort of always a Nick Siriani favorite. I didn't figure we'd be talking about him getting this many touches. He had three catches for really nothing out of the backfield.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I also had like seven rush attempts. Looks like he's going to be a decent part of this offense. Caleb Johnson, Dynasty managers especially can't be too happy about this one. but Kenneth Gainwell, it's yet another coaching staff that seems to like Kenneth Gainwell. So Kenny Gainwell, look, I'm an Eagles fan. He played for the Eagles for four years. And 2023 was kind of the example. When the Eagles came out with him after acquiring D'Andre Swift
Starting point is 00:37:32 and basically made him their lead back in week one, there is something that Kenny Gainwell does that I am just not sure, where he puts a spell on coaches. Coaches love this guy. And the production has never really matched up with when given all these opportunities, I should say, the production has never really matched up with what coaches think they're getting out of Kenny Gainwell. And Kenny Gainwell was most effective in 2024 with the Eagles when he was playing in a third down, hurry up role and he could rip off chunks of yardage.
Starting point is 00:38:06 He's a very tough player. He's a good receiver and he's a good pass protector. Those are three things coaches love. but when he gets a lot of touches, they tend to not go anywhere. The problem is I'm not sure Arthur Smith is going to learn that lesson, Tom. Yeah, it was frustrating to watch as a Steelers fan. Obviously, they gain well. They trust him in passing situations and pass protection,
Starting point is 00:38:30 but watching him handle the ball, I mean, just no juice. It has a runner or receiver here. As soon as they gave Jalen Warren some more opportunities in the second half, the one drive that he scored on in particular, finally got featured a little bit in the offense, and the offense actually had a little bit of juice. So they don't trust Caleb Johnson right now. No.
Starting point is 00:38:48 The talk all training camp, they were very frustrated with him and missing holes and balancing everything. And clearly he's a rookie. He didn't have a lot of work in the passing game playing at Iowa the last couple of years as well. So Caleb Johnson, major project. He's a guy that people are probably going to be looking to cut this week here or in future weeks. Gamewell, they signed him to, he wasn't like a massive contract, but it, you know, it was a decent
Starting point is 00:39:17 amount of money. They have a little bit of a plan for him next to Jalen Warren here moving forward. So very low end, but if something happens to Jalen Warren, I don't know if they really trust Caleb Johnson at this point. So Gainwell could, could very well, you know, get close to a Belcow type of role if, if Jalen Warren missed any time. Yeah, and it seems like there's a capped usage on Jalen Warren as well. So like Gainwell to me is one that's going to get brushed under the rug, but it's Arthur Smith. It's a lack of trust. And we talk about Caleb Johnson guys. Last year, what happened with Trey Benson, what happened with Blake Corum? And Jalen Wright, of course, was an early fourth rounder, but he was sort of in that same wheelhouse ADP-wise where it's been a bad
Starting point is 00:39:58 run for third round running backs. I mean, Devon A. Chan, notwithstanding, it's been a bad run for third round draft pick running backs. I think that might be a trend that we want to pay attention to with Caleb Johnson. They just don't want to use them. So I'm going to keep an eye on Kenneth Gainwell. Like you said, if Jalen Warren misses time, missed time last year, Kenneth Gainwell, I think would be an interesting spot start. There's a floor there. There's definitely a very low ceiling, but I think there's a floor with Kenneth Gainwell if he does see an increase in touches. Does D.J. Giddens belong in high-end handcuffed category? The Indianapolis Colts offense look good. we like the offensive line and Giddens had some decent usage for his first game in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Joe, start out with you on this one. Yeah, I think what he is a handcuffed. That's what he is. And the usage that Giddens mostly got in this game was after the game was kind of out of reach. And that was that game guys was an absolute debacle. The Miami Dolphins are a disaster. But I would say he's a handcuff, Theo. The usage was late in the game for the most part after the Colts were like,
Starting point is 00:41:02 why risk Jonathan Taylor getting hurt at this point. We're going to win the football game. But I think we got the answer that he is the handcuff. And if Jonathan Taylor were to get hurt, this would be a guy who you'd be dumping your fab budget. Yeah, he's one of those high-end handcuffs, though. I think I'd put him in that kind of category. We've got a little bit of information in the Rams backfield.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Jarrez Hunter was a healthy scratch. I think Blake Corum kind of has that one. And we know the Rams use quite a bit of Kyron Williams. So I think Blake Corum's in that. that high end range now for these handcuffs. Giddens is after after week one. I think he's in there. Will Shipley, that type. So yeah, I do if you're, you know, in these really deep high stakes formats were stashing at the end of your bench, some of these handcuffs in case there's an injury. I think Giddens needs to be added this week. Yeah. And I'm glad that you brought up Will Shipley. I think Will Shipley,
Starting point is 00:41:52 he looked super explosive early in the game. We actually saw him get that kind of an uncomfortable early target for Sequin Barkley managers where it's like, hey, where's, why's that target not going to Sequin Barclay. Yeah, we didn't see that last year. Yeah, where's that? So Shipley looked good with that one. Really liked that one. I agree with you completely on Blake.
Starting point is 00:42:10 He's dinged up, by the way. Let's keep that in mind. He missed the second half of the rib injury, but I don't know how serious it is. Yeah, the rib thing. And I think we'll get a little more clarity with that. AJ Dylan actually didn't look awful either. Dylan was running sort of with purpose and explosiveness. But again, it's all Seekwan Berkeley there.
Starting point is 00:42:25 It's sort of splitting hairs. But Shipley, I think if he's healthy, belongs in that high-end handcuff discussion. We love adding handcuffs guys. where we think it could be like for like usage. Shipley definitely wouldn't get the Seekwon-Barkley treatment, but I do think for if it was like a three-game sample size, DJ Giddens could handle 20 plus touches every single game. We saw that sort of volume at Kansas State.
Starting point is 00:42:47 One running back who might be cut this week, but I think should be scooped up. Inactive last week, Jaden Blue, guys, this is sort of just an indictment on Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders, of course, breaks off the really long run and gets caught from behind. And my linebacker. By a linebacker.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And I think Javante Williams would have to house that one, Joe. Just Sanders looked completely lack of explosiveness there. He also had a very costly fumble. Tom, if Jaden Blue is available on your waiver wire, is this a player you're running to pick up? I would. I would definitely consider. You know, Miles Sanders is probably, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:23 a little lower in the coaching staff's eyes after week one. Jaden Blue, you know, we were talking. We were doing this Thursday live stream before Thursday night football this year. I really think his lack of practice activity leading up to the season opener. And it was a Thursday game. So, you know, not as much time to prepare for that one. I think they ended up going with the guys that they felt most comfortable with for that season opener. Now they have 10 days to get ready for week two.
Starting point is 00:43:49 So maybe Blue is active this week. So I do think we're going to see he's about 36% owned in Yahoo Ligs. I wouldn't be surprised if we see that number get down to like 25 to 30% later this week once teams start. making more moves, you know, as they try to flip their rosters a little bit. So, but I wouldn't be afraid to pick him up. DeWante Williams looked all right. You know, it was much better than what we saw in Denver, but we'll see if he can sustain that moving forward.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So I still have a lot of skepticism about the guys in front of Jaden Blue. So still worth a stash. Very fast in a backfield without a lot of explosiveness. That alone is like a trigger. And Jaden Blue can catch the football guys. A lot of production as a pass catcher at Tech. Texas. Interesting one to stash for sure. I also mentioned Keaton Mitchell was inactive, but it sounds like that was a special team's decision. Derek Henry looked like maybe the
Starting point is 00:44:42 best pick you could have possibly made inside of round two. Henry would, I think Henry, in the time we've been recording, ran for another 65 yards. The guy's just incredible. He didn't fumble it, though, did he? No, no. Listen, costly fumble. And what a game that was. But Keaton Mitchell, especially if you're a Derek Henry manager, I still think he would be the next one in if Henry were to miss some time. Definitely an interesting one. Running back wise, we could talk about a ton of guys, but really check your waiver wire. And I'll say it's sort of an uneventful week one where we didn't have some situation where a starter went down and we're needing to pick up a handcuff. Of course, we're recording this before Monday Night Football. We don't
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Starting point is 00:46:42 Ella McKay. Let's pivot over to the quarterback position, guys. Is Daniel Jones this year Sam Darnold? And I'll preface it by saying we now have a two-year run where a reclamation project quarterback that the fantasy community was not drafting ended up finishing as a QB1. Baker Mayfield goes to Tampa Bay,
Starting point is 00:47:04 sort of as the bridge quarterback, taking over for Tom Brady. Baker Mayfield drafted as a QB3 for most of the summer in 2023, ends up finishing as a QB1, and then, of course, in 2024, takes another step forward in production, absolutely cooks last year.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Then last season, Sam Darnold had an opportunity with J.J. McCarthy banged up in the preseason. Darnold ends up being a QB1 on the year. finishes towards the leaders in multiple passing categories. Now you got Daniel Jones, guys. And we can talk about what a train wreck Miami was and how they basically gave this game away. But Daniel Jones has a passing touchdown to Michael Pittman,
Starting point is 00:47:43 has no interceptions, and runs for two touchdowns. And these weren't just scrambles. There was designed rush attempts for him, a quarterback with mobility, and now in an offense where there's a ton of skill position talent around him. there's a plus offensive line. And the vibes are pretty good here with Daniel Jones. Start out with you, Tom.
Starting point is 00:48:03 How interested are you in adding him to your fantasy rosters? I would if I'm playing in, especially in a two-quarterback league, or maybe I'm not real excited about my quarterback's performance in the season opener. And you're looking potentially for a little more juice in the future. I think he's at least worth an ad here to see if he can continue. I'm certainly a little bit tentative here because I do think this Miami team certainly is on a bad path here, could be one of the worst teams in the league. They kept getting set up with great field position, no resistance at all from the Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:48:37 So that is the one caveat to this whole situation with Daniel Jones. But Ryan Heath, he does a great little thread on Sunday nights. And, you know, he pointed out that his scramble rate was at nine and a half percent in 2022 and 2003, dipped down to below 4 percent in 2024 as he was coming off in ACL. injury. So he was running around pretty well yesterday, three different scrambles. Had a couple design runs, as he said. I really kind of like this receiving core a lot. Michael Pittman's healthy again. That was an issue last year. He just couldn't get over that back injury. There was talk at points last year that they were going to shut him down all together and he
Starting point is 00:49:16 continued to play through it. So I think he's back to full strength. We love Josh Downs, quite a quiet opener here, but coming back from a hamstring injury and Tyler Warren looks like an absolute freak getting featured right away in this offense, just like Harold Fanon. So there's a lot of weapons to like here. So worth picking up. I think we're going to get a pretty good litmus test here this week. They get that matchup at home against the Broncos, one of the best defenses in the league. So we'll see how sticky this Daniel Jones performance is from week one.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I think we're going to be seeing the complete opposite reaction next week. And it's going to be, oh, there's Daniel Jones. there's, you know, and it's just going to be the fact that he played a really bad defense in week one and a really good one in week two. I do have interest here. Look, Kevin O'Connell had him for a half a season. Maybe he, maybe Kevin O'Connell just really knows how to rewire the brain chemistry for quarterbacks. And he went out and won this job over Anthony Richardson. But I am going to pump the brakes a little bit, Theo, nonetheless, if there was a quarterback here, if I'm in a 14 team league and I wasn't thrilled with what I got out of my starter, by the way,
Starting point is 00:50:22 chances are you probably weren't because of the 15 games that have been played so far this week, 12 of them went under the total. So it's something that I might look to pick up Daniel Jones, but I'm certainly not starting him next week, as Tom mentioned. But that Bronco defense is pretty nasty. Yeah, and I'll say that I think Tom, you sort of nailed it in a perfect world. He's your QB2 in a Superflex. And you end up getting sort of a cheat code QB2.
Starting point is 00:50:52 if you found like a cheap one. And you bring up 2022. Daniel Jones had 700 rushing yards that season in New York, finished as a mid-QB-1 that year. So never say never. And I'll say, Joe, like, yeah, the Broncos defense is an absolute force. And that's a difficult game,
Starting point is 00:51:11 but it is in Indianapolis. But then after that, it's in Tennessee. It's the Rams on the road. It's Las Vegas in Indianapolis. And then Arizona coming into Indianapolis. the Colts could be could have like four wins by then. So there's some positive vibes there. You mentioned you really like the receiving core, Tom.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I think that's a great takeaway. Every single receiver on that team was a day one or day two prospect. And Tyler Warren looks like an absolute weapon of mass destruction out there, led it inapolis and targets in his first game. And that's probably one of the reasons we saw Josh Downs not producing. And also the game flow, of course, when they're up that much against Miami did not hurt. Let's talk about Jackson Dart guys.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Is it time for the speculative edition of Jackson Dart, even if New York does not make a quarterback switch? Start with Joe. I would think it would be a massive mistake for the Giants to go to Jackson Dart until they get Andrew Thomas back. Andrew Thomas has been kind of the skeleton key for that offense. They look competent when he plays and they look just unbelievably bad when he doesn't. They play the Cowboys this coming week.
Starting point is 00:52:17 obviously the Cowboys, they're down their best pass rush for on account of they traded him to the Packers. But Theo, I don't think the Giants should make the consideration until Andrew Thomas is coming back. And I feel like in Super Flex leagues, Tom, Jackson Dark's probably already rostered. Maybe not in a 10-team Super Flex League. I would think it's coming sooner rather than later. We had speculation that the Giants had a package for Jackson Dart. They just could never get the offense going against the commanders. And I can't really see how they're going to get their offense going against.
Starting point is 00:52:47 any buddy until Andrew Thomas comes back. Yeah, it was a rough first performance there for the offense. Russell Wilson doesn't have much time here. I do think he'll get a couple more starts. I don't think it's a bad signal from the head coaching staff and from the top. If you pull a guy after a game or two. But maybe after that Kansas City game in week three, play the Chargers in week four. So two tough matchups there in week three and four.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Maybe they let Russell handle those starts and give him that nice soft spot. against the Saints in week five. I think that could be the spot where we see Dart, but it's coming soon. So if he's out there, and you never know, we're getting into waiver moves here. Somebody might have him at the end of the bench, and they have an injury or, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:32 whatever the reason is. And they might drop him this week for whatever reason. So he's a guy. I would be looking on my waiver wire here. I do think we're going to see Dart in the near future as soon as probably October against the Saints. So there's three quarterbacks, I'm going to lump all of these three together, and I'm going to ask you how you would prioritize.
Starting point is 00:53:52 You don't have to give me all three, but let me know the one you would be most interested in adding to your fantasy rosters. All three of these quarterbacks put up solid numbers in week one. Gino Smith looked really, really good, guys. Gino Smith had some really big moments. They get the road win in New England. Gino Smith, let's add Michael Pennix, Jr., who didn't pass for as many yards as Gino, but almost had 300 passing yards. also had a few rush attempts, including that rushing touchdown. And Aaron Rogers, who had four passing touchdowns, Rogers was really seemed motivated to
Starting point is 00:54:27 beat the Jets and had a really strong performance. So Gino Smith, Michael Penix, Aaron Rogers, available on a lot of waiver wires, pick one. I'll start with you, Tom. I would go Michael Penix. I'm a pretty big believer in him. This summer I gave out his prop to potentially lead the league in passing yards. I don't think it's going to happen, but he was 75 to 1 to do it. And I thought that number was absurd based on how much they were throwing it last year
Starting point is 00:54:53 in those three starts that he got at the end of last year. So they came out throwing a lot again this week. That rushing game was a little stagnant with the Bijon and breaking in a new right tackle. So 42 attempts, another 298 yards. He's averaging close to 260 passing yards in his first four NFL starts. So I think that's pretty promising. And just looking at, you know, a little bit more scrambling here. in the season opener.
Starting point is 00:55:17 So we got the rushing touchdown. So maybe that will be a little bit added part of his game here. Just, hey, another, you know, just maybe an extra scramble or two per week could, you know, it gets us maybe an extra fantasy point or two. So I'm looking at Michael Pennix. I just hope his receivers get healthy here. Drake London banged up a little bit dealing with a shoulder injury coming out of week one. It does look like he'll be all right.
Starting point is 00:55:40 But Dornel Mooney's continuing to miss time here with a shoulder injury. So hopefully those guys can hold up shoulder injuries can. be all right and play through them, but they can act up throughout the season. So that would be my one major concern right now with the Falcons receivers. They're very thin. Joe Dolan, same question. Pennicks. That being said, you know, to Gino Smith would be second of these. Both of them right now have their number one receiver, Gino being Brock Bowers dinged up. Gino's just a guy who he throws the ball up for good or ill. And he had 362 in that game against the Patriots who were without Christian Gonzalez. He also had one of the dumbest interceptions you'll ever see, throwing the ball into triple
Starting point is 00:56:18 coverage. That's what he does. But now, in Pennix, Gno Rogers, in that order. Yeah, I'm completely with you guys. Penix is the number one for me. And it's interesting, there's six rush attempts. Penix always had that 40-yard dash time in his bag. He was a sub-4640 guy, put up some nice numbers at Washington Pro Day. We never really saw it in his on-field production. So like you said, if that's something that we weren't projecting for, and he does have four or five, rush attempts per game. That's going to be something that I think will really help us in fantasy. And guys, it helps when you can just dump down to that Bijon Robinson guy and he can house it from 50 yards out. Not bad for any quarterback. This was awesome today. I think we covered a lot of names.
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